ROR: Banjo Tooie (N64 Vs. 360) | Ambition Unbounded

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We return for another round of Jiggery Pokery with Banjo Tooie, the 2000 sequel for Nintendo 64 and later ported to Xbox 360 in 2009.
00:00:00 - Video Start
00:00:40 - Introduction
00:04:32 - Story
00:13:52 - Graphics
00:20:16 - Music
00:21:37 - Basic Moves
00:24:58 - Stop and Swop
00:27:30 - FPS Section
00:29:08 - Moves
00:38:31 - Mumbo Jumbo
00:40:38 - Breaking News Update
00:41:58 - Humba Wumba
00:43:09 - Bosses
00:44:42 - Spoilers
00:46:05 - Level Design
00:51:39 - Fast Travel
00:53:10 - Backtracking
00:54:14 - Jiggy Pacing
00:57:05 - A Collectathon/Metroidvania Hybrid
01:00:54 - 100% Vs. Minimalism
01:02:01 - Final Thoughts on the 360 Version
01:04:31 - Playing Tooie Twice Back to Back
01:08:09 - Final Thoughts
01:10:27 - Remake or Rebreak?
01:12:51 - Outro
01:15:08 - Credits
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Remake or Rebreak Scores:
1- Rebreak: Fails to resurrect the same quality standard as the original due to incompetent design, technical failures, etc. A virtually worthless remake/port overall.
2- Reprise: Not as good as the original, but a relatively competent recreation that is still playable enough. Alternatively, a Reprise may fail to address the original's salient issues or neglect to add anything substantial. Formerly called the "Re-Meh" score.
3- Remaster: An improvement overall, but not necessarily worth playing if you already own the original. Typically adds some new content or fixes salient issues with the original. Rereleases with this score often don't reach their fullest potential or otherwise lack something meaningful you can only get in the original.
4- Remake: A strong rerelease that fixes salient issues, updates the visuals/music, and maybe adds new content. However, there may be a few blemishes left untouched or other neglected opportunities to improve.
5- Replace: A rerelease that changes, fixes, and adds so much that it stands heads and shoulders above the original version. A Replace not only faithfully recreates the original, but fixes most (if not all) of the original's issues and adds a sizable amount of worthwhile new content as applicable.

[@starscorpia4005]

3 videos ago you bought a pc to play glover, now you bought a xbox one x to play banjo tooie wow that's dedication to the craft

[@doublevendetta]

@Zachary Erickson ? What did you think "Windows 98 rig" meant?

[@doublevendetta]

@Zachary EricksonLol no. When PC guys refer to our "rigs," that's a computer.

[@IToastMySocks]

Homie didnt know pc gamepass exists or some.

[@Cliffordlonghead]

Timestamp for Mobile User 00:00:40 - Introduction 00:04:32 - Story 00:13:52 - Graphics 00:20:16 - Music 00:21:37 - Basic Moves 00:24:58 - Stop and Swop 00:27:30 FPS Section 00:29:08 - Moves 00:38:31 - Mumbo Jumbo 00:40:38 - Breaking News Update 00:41:58 - Humba Wumba 00:43:09 - Bosses 00:44:42 - Spoilers 00:46:05 - Level Design 00:51:39 - Fast Travel 00:53:10 - Backtracking 00:54:14 - Jiggy Pacing 00:57:05 - A Collectathon/Metroidvania Hybrid 01:00:54 - 100% Vs. Minimalism 01:02:01 - Final Thoughts on the 360 Version 01:04:31 - Playing Tooie Twice Back to Back 01:08:09 - Final Thoughts 01:10:27 - Remake or Rebreak? 01:12:51 - Outro 01:15:08 - Credits

[@Cliffordlonghead]

@Damien Maciel No Problem

[@moncay3238]

Thanks

[@Cliffordlonghead]

@@moncay3238 No Problem

[@Cliffordlonghead]

If he pinned me i will be shock

[@_nayrb]

Thank you ;)

[@SuperNorstShow]

I got alot of enjoyment with friends as a kid with Banjo Tooie's multiplayer. It is definitely not throw away lol

[@robertlauncher]

“All it has are the shooters and the collection minigames.” Well... and the hoop challenge. ...and the balloon burst challenge. And the Tower of Tragedy Quiz. Really other than the crappy Minecraft races, every game in single player is a mini game. I don’t think he’s given the options a good look over

[@kylecampbell565]

Robin Ashenor are those modes unlocked throughout the story? He might not be aware they exist. It would be best to inform him

[@SuperNorstShow]

@@robertlauncher Really they arn't bad. Me and my friends kind of lived in a vacuum and none of us with a N64 had or knew about Goldeneye. Therefore, the 1st person shooter stages filled that gap.

[@EvilApple567]

The Tower of Tragedy quiz alone is good enough for an hour or two of fun with siblings/friends, especially with how humorous some of the fake answers can get.

[@ChiefMedicPururu]

@@EvilApple567 He seems to not care about multiplayers.

[@joebykaeby]

I feel like not being able to split/swap anywhere was probably a platform limitation: having to remember where the other character is, render them when you walk by... not to mention that the pads are very carefully placed where enemies and other stage elements will never interact with the idle character.

[@lpfan4491]

considering there is a series of glitches linked to the mechanic,i can see that being the case

[@LilJbm1]

@@lpfan4491 Yeah I totally agree with Joe's point. Was thinking the same thing throughout the review and consistently disagreed with his criticism on that. It just was not possible for them to listen to his literally UNREASONABLE demand that you be able to split anywhere, and even for the remake that criticism is still unreasonable and illegitimate. He admitted it himself in the video when he stated splitting anywhere would require total rework and redesign of all the levels to accommodate the massive game mechanic shift. Asking for that "little mechanic change" would necessitate changing all the levels of Tooie to the point that it isn't the same game anymore, and at that point you should just be making a new game instead of a remake. Really hated that point he kept making because it was so stupid. I get why he wanted that, but hated how he acted like it was the Dev's fault for not being able to work it in.

[@lpfan4491]

i mean,i get the criticism honestly. if you are unable to make it not a pain,then dont make it is usually the rule of thumb. just wanted to say that it is logical that it was most likely indeed not possible on n64

[@WhiplashPuppet]

@@LilJbm1 I don't get why he's hating on the feature so much. I mean, for fucks sake, it was the MAIN SELLING POINT of the game. It's front and center in the commercials. Getting mad because you can't split up anywhere just comes off as childish. He's criticizing the game for not being what he wanted it to be, rather than on it's own merits alone, on top of the N64's limitations. It's like you said, allowing you split anywhere would require so much reworking that it'd be a completely different game by the time they were done.

[@Kinkajou1015]

@@WhiplashPuppet It's front and center on the logo too. Notice how Banjo has bear paw prints and Tooie has bird talon prints. It's a major point of the game for sure. Many complained back in 1999 and 2000 about how they wanted Bear and Bird to be able to do things on their own. Rare granted the wish. What got me more is how he kept complaining it wasn't on L. But newsflash, the standard controller for the N64, L wouldn't be used unless you were playing with D pad. I get he has that nice controller where everything is reachable, but myself and I bet most people used the tri grip controller. Requiring the players to change their grip during gameplay is bad game design.

[@Sunominal]

ROR: Star Fox 64 (N64) vs. Star Fox 64 3D (3DS)

[@turtleanton6539]

3D wins

[@kylecampbell565]

Remember it’s his channel he decides what he talks about

[@ChiefMedicPururu]

There's no real winner, both are mostly the same damn thing.

[@Sunominal]

@@ChiefMedicPururu Isn't that what a remake is though?

[@justthatoneguy737]

@@ChiefMedicPururu So were The Banjo remasters.

[@vgfmak]

It says a lot about the length and pacing of these games when Tooie's levels take way longer to complete than Kazooie's levels despite Tooie's having warp pads and Kazooie's not.

[@Saltyoven]

Honestly there are only 3 or 4 levels that really stand out for me. the rest I'm either meh or flat out dislike. Treasure trove Cove, Freezezy Peak, Mad monster mansion, and Click Clock wood that really stand out for me. Clanker's Cavern, Bubblegloop Swamp I don't really like, and Isle o Hags imo is better than Grunty's lair simply by virtue of not having the bullshit one goes through from MMM to RBB. BT on the other hand has only one level I dislike with only one other I'm mixed on. Every other level I REALLY like.

[@jjc4924]

Salty. I don't remember any of the worlds in Banjo-Tooie uf only because how damn big, spaces & empty they are that I completely get lost alot of times.

[@jaretco6423]

Even with Warp Pads, it still takes longer because of an long distance to travel and no ways of making the paste faster.

[@MetagrossOverlordX]

*see video length* aw shit, here we go again see you in an hour

[@ender_blade]

are you back yet?

[@TheGauges420]

@@ender_blade he's been back.

[@MetagrossOverlordX]

Just finished (had to do some things in the middle) Good review

[@michaelhowarth8331]

You don’t see videos like this that are this long anymore. It’s a nice treat.

[@benjo2492]

You can also watch the video with twice the speed

[@wowliker642]

Banjo-Tooie was not just a story of saving the world from Gruntila, it was also one of revenge the moment she killed Bottles.

[@ShadwSonic]

Dragon Kazooie has another benefit you know... unlimited Fire Eggs. Granted, they remain mostly situational compared to normal ones, but they do a bit more damage by default.

[@msgameandcake628]

I mean, they are tied with Ice Eggs for the best DPS at 4 damage per volley. 2 Fire Eggs at a time, 2 damage each, compared to 3 Blue Eggs at a time 1 damage each and 1 Grenade Egg at a time 3 damage each. They're used for a decent number of puzzles, and can even make Weldar explode just as well as Grenade Eggs. Heck, just having an infinite supply of ANY egg type helps a good deal during the FPS sections, makes it so the only times you'll ever need to restock eggs is if you needed them for puzzle solving.

[@necro5363]

Xross Platform on Rayman 2. Every single version. N64, Dreamcast, PS1, PS2 , DS, 3DS, Gameboy and PC.

[@sonyvssnes]

Christ

[@alextrimberger7411]

Sounds like a lot of work

[@Saxdude26]

And technically iOS/Android. Granted it was removed from the store.

[@necro5363]

@@alextrimberger7411 This man bought a Windows 98 computer instead of emulating the PC version to make it more authentic. Pretty sure this man can do this.

[@alextrimberger7411]

Necro You have to look at the ports that were made first as they have to be released at the same time.

[@BlaxxShadow]

I think the destruction left by the drill machine was more a subtle reminder of the damage Grunty had done, but I understand it's not as in your face as it used to be. Considering the game is alot bigger I imagine that would mean spending more time on Grunty's lines. As a trade off we got more hilarious npcs.

[@Derekuko]

It's much better than how Kazooie did it imo. You actually saw firsthand how Grunt and her sisters straight up ruined your home. The destroyed Spiral Mountain, the empty Jinjo village, the death trap of Witchy World, the exploited and polluted factory of Grunty Industries and the overall dark atmostphere it felt upon the island.

[@zeeteepippi275]

@@Derekuko Kazooie did a much better job putting a face on all what's going on. Even though what she did was on a smaller scale, the game makes you feel personally obligated to finish the game with how constantly Grunty interacts with you and gets fleshed out.

[@GamerWho]

I think it's unfair to blame 4J Studios for not "fixing" design problems with the original game. Presumably this was an outsourced remaster. It's probable that they didn't have the budget for a carte blanche approach. The project scope was probably defined by the publisher.

[@ChiefMedicPururu]

Yeah, Exo went too harsh on that part.

[@pokepress]

Right, you can still fault the remake for not fixing it, but you shouldn’t necessarily assign blame to a particular party without solid evidence.

[@pokefriend123]

This game turns into a full-time job by the time you reach Grunty Industries, which is really funny because who else but Grunty would have you run around memorizing the note locations

[@CallieCatGaming]

You get tracks like "Hailfire peaks and terrydactyland, which fail to impress" Me: *hides because these are my 2 favorite tracks of the game*

[@Metroid4ever]

Oh, as for the last Canary Mary race, for some reason, at Rare, they didn't realize how horrible the rubberbanding AI was. So you had to actually purposely go slow for most of the race, only to overtake her at the very end. I only found out about this when I replayed Tooie recently. I never knew WHY that race was so ridiculously hard as a kid.

[@9bladesofice]

I remember just mashing as fast as possible and that eventually worked though that might also be due to being exhausted and tapping less quickly then going fast right at the end. I'm pretty sure anyone would say that one was terrible though because of how long the race is and how fast you had to go or else "I'm leaving you behind so that's it".

[@Metroid4ever]

@@9bladesofice Yeah, it was the one Jiggy I never got as a child, so I could never 100% the game. Thank god for the Internet revealing why this was the case.

[@apollorock3r244]

58:44 Sadly, the first Shantae game doesn’t have that feature so it’s incredibly easy to get lost despite being a Metroidvania game. Thank goodness the later games incorporate one to ease the pain.

[@Worm-revolver]

I prefer Tooie. I'm not trying to argue with anyone, this is just my opinion. I prefer Tooie's larger and interconnected worlds. That made the world feel more organic and natural. I liked that your notes didn't reset in Tooie. I liked the more varied gameplay and more differing level themes. Kazooie was pretty Nintendo standard with level theme. Tooie has some of that too, but they're more varied and have more specific, or more fleshed out, versions of a theme. I also feel that Kazooie's item placement detracted from the games. It felt less like an adventure and more like the devs were guiding you through a level. Like they were holding your hand, not letting you truly explore and discover things on your own. I also really like Tooie's darker themes.

[@eyeconqueror1185]

Wholeheartedly agree. But of course I still love the original it is great as well

[@kevinvu5432]

You're not alone.

[@jjc4924]

I wish the game wasn't so big & handled the backtracking better though. And make the worlds more variety & feeling alive.

[@kevinvu5432]

@@jjc4924 In what way do you want them to feel alive? Have you played a N64 game before?

[@jjc4924]

I meant the worlds in Tooie felt kinda bare & empty. There are some exception. But most of them feels like there isn't much going on around through your surroundings & they felt bleak.

[@papersonic9941]

Being able to split off whenever would have shattered the game's puzzles. You could just fly somewhere, split up, and then do whatever you wanted the individual member to do. Rather than wondering "how do I get solo Banjo there". You might argue it's not good design, but as Tooie is right now it wouldn't work. And it's not fair to knock the remake for not changing that when it would've completely changed the way the game plays. Anyways, fair review overall, even if I disagree (Grunty's Industries is my favorite stage by far. Love how it's basically a Zelda dungeon, lol)

[@papersonic9941]

@@applem5192 I know, but not only did I want to explain the reason behind the design decision, but also to explain why it wasn't fair to expect the XBLA version to change it.

[@Maguarkwo671]

i got all the moves in grunty industries and left

[@klaushammer8687]

I'm gonna replay that level with a zelda mindset and see if it changes my thoughts. Ive never played banjo and thought of zelda

[@oswinner9265]

@@klaushammer8687 I’m currently re-playing the game on n64. Frame rate aside, it’s class. One of my fave games. And I’ve just got to Gruntys industries and it’s fantastic. I prefer Tooie to Kazooie because I prefer Zelda games over Mario games (puzzle adventures over platforming). Tooie is more puzzle adventure whilst Kazooie is more platformer. Probably why Tooie has such divisive opinions.

[@franklinbadge1215]

It true that the split-up puzzles were designed around the limited access to split pads, but it wouldn't be impossible to design puzzles around the ability to split up on demand.

[@ChiefMedicPururu]

Buddy, Canary Mary is vicious. The actual trick is NOT to button mash.

[@jjopification]

What I did for the second (Cheato page) race on CCL: Casually tap the button and stay behind her, just until you're going over the top of the mountain. Now, start to fall behind a little more. When the camera angle reverses pause, take a pen, hold it flat so that its end touches the area *behind* the button, unpause and scrub like there's no tomorrow. Sadly I discovered this after I already scrubbed a blister in my finger.

[@calcium7434]

ROR: Spongebob Battle For Bikini Bottom VS Spongebob Battle For Bikini Bottom Rehydrated

[@Cliffordlonghead]

That not out yet

[@calcium7434]

@@Cliffordlonghead I Know But I Like The Idea

[@Cliffordlonghead]

@@calcium7434 oh

[@calcium7434]

@@Cliffordlonghead It's Fine

[@TorbjornLindholm_o7]

@@calcium7434 your pfp belongs in the trash lol

[@ultrairrelevantnobody1862]

Back & Forth and Back & Forth and Back & Forth and Back & Forth and Back & Forth That made me chuckle.

[@PokeminMaster]

I didn't find Canary Mary so bad once I realized how her rubber banding worked - hovering behind her doesn't take much mashing at all, then boosting out at the end isn't bad either; I'm not saying it's well designed, but finding that out made beating her so much more comfortable and consistent And about Klungo, be uses his 3 potions in a different order depending on which save file you're playing Also funny enough, in one of my really old concepts for a Banjo-Threeie, I had Kazooie wield his wand (similar to the wrench in Nuts & Bolts, but I made this idea first uwu) after he gets kidnapped; you would collect Mumbo Tokens and spend them to activate Mumbo Pads as in Tooie, but you wouldn't need to switch characters for it

[@poalcm]

What I like the most is that I don't agree with many things that you said. But I like your content so much that I can't just not watch this incredible logic work with so much quality. Congrats!

[@pizzalover346]

Alright, high key tho... did y’all just call the Hailfire Peaks theme unmemorable? That was the first song that stuck in my head when I first discovered this game along with Glitter Gulch and Grunty Industries. Hailfire’s theme is phenomenal, with that being said I can respect your opinion and really like this review.

[@jespoketheepic]

I think your nitpicks are usually fine criticisms, but you tend to bring your criticisms back up many times across a review, which can feel grating on people that are less/not bothered by the issue in question. I know it's happened to me before.

[@galegopaulista4564]

Same here. When this guy talked, it seemed like Banjo-Tooie was the worst game ever, but when I played it myself, only a few of the nitpicks were actually valid. Playing the game was a ton of fun. There are also some criticism in this video that's just dumb, like the split up pad conundrum

[@matthewmangan5161]

@@galegopaulista4564 I just think Tooie has better replay value, I get nitpicks like, “the only reason you return to Glitter Gulch Mine is to use the bouncy shoes to get the jiggy on the ledge” but they don’t ruin the game for me, yes there could’ve been more, stuff could have been more refined, but for me it remains an enjoyable game Grunty Industries for me just feels like an adventure, once you know where everything is, it’s satisfying, same with Terrydactyland (train station and dino-cave are right next to each other, the prison cells, spiral path, Mumbo Hut, Wigwam, lakes are all visible from somewhere else) The Mumbo and Wumba stuff are the worst parts of the game, but once you get it over and done with, it only takes like 5 minutes Yes, Rare should have made things less cryptic, but the backtracking? You can get a decent amount of stuff first visit and Metroidvanias are the natural evolutions of collectathons Internet guides weren’t a thing in 2000? Yes, that’s not an excuse but it does fix things

[@galegopaulista4564]

@@matthewmangan5161 personally speaking, Banjo-Kazooie was better. It actually encouraged me to get everything, and it was a lot of fun (yes, even on Rusty Bucket Bay, that level wasn't really that hard for me, though it would probably be more challenging on the N64). Tooie was also a lot of fun, and I think people exaggerate a bit on the critiques. It really isn't unfair to get all required jiggies. They also make the worlds feel more interconnected. That being said, getting all the jiggies can be boring because of some very dumb ones, and moving from a to b can feel sluggish and slow. Also, most of the boss fights can feel pretty easy (aside from a few of them). And also, Canary Mary sucks. I usually try not to hate stuff that already gets a lot of hate, but with Mary it's impossible. She looks horribly terrible and her challenges on the Cloud are unfair and nearly impossible if you play on the Xbox

[@matthewmangan5161]

@@galegopaulista4564 it just comes down to preference Ironically I personally think Kazooie has worse tedious moments and Tooie is a lot less punishing

[@matthewmangan5161]

@@galegopaulista4564 Kazooie has a sense of rhythm, Tooie has a sense of adventure

[@costileraphid1891]

40:49 I found out why the LRB Cutscene Skip is not on the Xbox Versions. 4J Studios forgot to Map the N64's L Button on the Xbox Controller. Meaning that they didn't knew about the feature. HOWEVER, i can clearly remember once playing the Xbox Version of BK, and managed to Skip the 1st Bottles Cutscene. I haven't been able to replicate it, but it still leaves me baffled that 4J Studios didn't even though about Cutscenes/Text Skips.

[@sommanker]

You're the only youtuber that can keep me fully engaged for 75 minutes. Usually I get bored, or listen to it in the background. I told myself I'd watch the first few minutes and then finish it tomorrow. Nope, now I'm at the conclusion. You're doing a great job

[@earlduran6419]

The Xbox 360 & Xbox One versions has some audio bugs that I notice but the most noticeable one has to be witchyworld: space zone.

[@polycube868]

Still better than dealing with the N64 version running at 10 FPS

[@Silph_Co]

Tooie has a lot of problems, but I love the insane ambitions that it has. Like you mentioned, most of its attempts at pushing the series forward fall a bit short, but the interconnected world adds so much to the atmosphere of the game in a way that makes me enjoy it even more than Kazooie. For first time players though, I do recommend playing alongside a guide to cut out time trying to figure out how to get Jiggies that require later moves. It made my first playthrough way more fun than it would have been otherwise (even though a game shouldn’t require a guide to be fun)

[@kevinvu5432]

I noticed one major problem in your annoyance with Banjo-Tooie. You keep seeing it as "just a collect-a-thon". But have you ever thought it was trying to be more than just a collect-a-thon? You're trying to review it as just one thing and it has to achieve what a collect-a-thon should, when it's more than just that and achieves alot of other things you have yet to mention. That's why when you make comparisons to Zelda, they dont come off as positive because that's not what you want out of Banjo Tooie. But that's what makes Banjo Tooie amazing. It feels like a real lived in world. Or at least a world that isnt an excuse to fill time. A more appropriate comparison would be Mario 64. In which you do have to backtrack sometimes after obtaining special caps. You think of "back and forth" because you only thinking in terms of linear. And banjo-tooie is everything but linear.You can explore and progress as much as you want. And I personally LOVE backtracking if it means I get to see old worlds and enjoy them all over. I personally HATE doing everything in a single world on the first or second go and never go back to it again. Sure Yooka-Laylee did it almost better. But also sacrificed immersion and lived in worlds. They have the themes but each area doesnt feel lived in or remarkably special from the last. You complained about Mumbo and Humba Wumba for being two separate mechanics rather than being two separate characters with their own story. I like Wumba and I like mumbo. I dont like seeing both too much and they break up the monotony. I completely disagree with separation of Banjo/kazooie undermining the point. The point of having that opening where you can bring your fast food to the dinosaur world is tied to a quest. One of the dinosaurs wants to try new foods and you have to bring it to them. Banjo may not be carrying the eggs for valid reasons. And I find it so nitpicky to even point it out without putting any real effort on explaining how it works. I will completely agree that the bird race in the sky world is practically impossible and always annoyed me. Overall I understand your annoyance. And I get it's your opinion. but dont you think for a second that maybe just maybe you're blowing it out of proportion?

[@dezooielylat9134]

You need much more thumps up. I never understand the statement that it must be good for speed run. I would never want to speed run BT because i love the exploration part of this game way to much.

[@kevinvu5432]

@@dezooielylat9134 I never understood the idea of this turning off casual players either. How would he know?

[@RomoBomo]

Banjo may not be carrying the...

[@kevinvu5432]

@@RomoBomo I stopped at the sentence. But basically what I meant to say was the eggs. I dont remember Banjo holding the eggs for Kazooie in his backpack. Isnt kazooie able to freely change types? And the backpack may have internal pockets. I dont think the backpack gimmick was bad.

[@Rodanguirus]

Thank you! You expertly summarized why I love Tooie and why it’s great!

[@ln5321]

Tooie is like those old point and click adventure games where you need to get through a locked door, so you look for a key, only to find out hours later that you were supposed to go out to the farm and steal a rooster and use it to wake up the janitor's pet lizard so that it will eat the flies in the room so you can get through the passage without the flies blocking you. Then you go through the passage and find a barrel with a green liquid in it, which you have to collect in your goblet (you got the goblet, didn't you?) and then go all the way back to the entrance and give it to the knight. After he drinks the green liquid, he'll open the door for your with his key. Duh, how else would you open a door?

[@martinalther6661]

A personal nitpick: I actually preferred "Re-Meh" over "Reprise." Yeah, it's not a real word, but it has more emotion/emphasis. Otherwise, I loved both this and the B-K retrospective. I agree that B-K was the better game, for the very reasons you mentioned: less confusing level designs, better framerate in the N64 version, etc. Also, I think it's all but guaranteed the mobile version of Grunty's Revenge will be a "Rebreak", given that it was released when flip phones were still a thing (the first iPhone wasn't even out yet).

[@ars7374]

Your uploads are becoming much more frequent. I’m not complaining, though.

[@BahuschBahusch]

I actually REALLY liked Grunty Industries. The floor system makes it easier to me to keep track of what is where since I have explicit categories to sort things in. Especially once you have the warp pads unlocked navigating that stage is really easy

[@ChiefMedicPururu]

When you love a game, you take the bad with the good. The important is the good has to outweight the bad.

[@jjc4924]

But sometimes something this bad can ruined the game no matter how much improvement the sequels gets. Don't believe me. Look at Fable.

[@moncay3238]

@JJ C Fable is not a good example

[@jaretco6423]

JJ C. No. Look at Parasite Eve.

[@MagicMaster667]

I have to confess, that my favorite tune from the Banjo Kazooie series is actually *Hailfire Peaks (Lava Side)* from this game. -Here's hoping it gets into Smash Bros!-

[@LilJbm1]

Same here man, same. Was fairly upset that he called those tracks "forgettable". Bullshit, maybe to him, but this is his opinion.

[@CarloNassar]

Still waiting for the Re-Meh term because it goes further into a re-release that does a "Meh" job of fixing or adding anything. Plus, I love that term.

[@kaptenteo]

Heh! Just like in B-K, your most hated level is my personal favorite. I love Grunty Industries; I find its sprawling size and complicated design and puzzles to be a real hoot! :D

[@arkanjoteixeira]

I'm just playing through this level rn and man it's huuuuuge, it's complicated as hell with so many things to find and unlock... and I really love it tbh lol

[@oswinner9265]

I’m just playing through Gruntys Industries and it’s my favourite level so far aswell. Also, Click Clock Wood was my favourite in BK. These are great videos but his taste is polar opposite to mine haha.

[@jjc4924]

I've played Tooie and once reach Grunty Industry, it was hell. Easily the worst world of the game.

[@supermairo88]

Game is Ambitious. I both love that and hate it. I prefer tooie over kazooie but I do see why some prefer kazooie. As fun as tooie is for me some worlds are way to ambitious for their own good.

[@Woedenaz]

Honestly, Tooie shines in emulation. Almost all of the performance issues are fixed and... well, you can use a few cheatcodes to fix some of the irritating parts. Obviously, that doesn't rid the game of its original flaws, but it does help.

[@jjc4924]

SuperMario. I agree. I want to like Tooie more than Kazooie. I really do. But the worlds are way too big & the backtracking is an step backward for me. I wasn't a huge fan of Kazooie. So I was hoping Tooie would grab my attention. But unfortunately, it gotten worst for me. I guess the Banjo Kazooie series just doesn't do anything justice for me. I know it has it's fans. But I'm not one of them.

[@alijahaskew4644]

@@jjc4924 Ok. Tooie I understand. What problems did you have with Kazooie?

[@jjc4924]

Alijah. To much collecthon that the game throws at that's asking to get as much and I feel like the gameplay is slow for me; even when playing Kazooie.

[@alijahaskew4644]

@@jjc4924 I don't know. I never had trouble with the amount of stuff to collect in Kazooie. The only part I hated collecting everything is in Rusty Bucket Bay, or as I call it, Rusty F*ck it Bay. Also you don't really have to collect EVERYTHING on screen unless you're going for 100%. And at least it's not as bad as Super Mario Sunshine or Crash Bandicoot 4. Also the gameplay isn't very slow for me either. In fact, the slow gameplay actually helps. It allows the player the time to look at their surroundings to see any collectables. Maybe it's because I've been playing Banjo-Kazooie since 2019. Also, you would probably DESPISE Nuts & Bolts. Yeah, it gets rid of the collectathon stuff for cars and the cars are reasonably fast, but the worlds in Nuts and Bolts are even BIGGER than the ones in Tooie. Seriously, I stopped playing it because I was so confused on where to go first. Anyways, sorry if Banjo-Kazooie wasn't your cup of tea, I respect your opinion. Edit: Begrudgingly.

[@Ian64]

I agree with all the complaints, but Banjo-Tooie is still my favorite game ever made.

[@Rosie_Cozy]

Remember we think there’s nothing wrong with that we just like the first better -banjo kazooie community

[@robsmith7520]

Dr. Proctor ltt try yky itllkllllllll

[@ultram2561]

I still play the multi-player from time to time with friends, fun times.

[@_Tzer]

except hailfire peaks the music was good.

[@Nathando64]

Me too. Defo one of my favourite games ever

[@GabrielChiari]

I agree with many things said. But I will support Banjo Tooie's complexity to death.

[@joshuagrahambrown]

At 25:43 it’s mentioned that Dragon Kazooie’s Fire Breath is too short ranged and later it’s mentioned that the Homing Eggs are the only worthwhile unlockable. However, Dragon Kazooie actually grants you infinite Fire Eggs - a lot of people don’t tend to notice that and I don’t believe Humba Wumba tells you (I could be wrong). At 42:59 it’s mentioned that the Bee can boost in Tooie, but this was also possible in Kazooie. Again, Mumbo never mentions this to you. Also fun fact: You can cheese THREE of the boss fights in Tooie: • To the left of the entrances to Targitzan’s Slightly Sacred Chamber & Really Sacred Chamber, there’s a nest of Gold Eggs, granting you infinite Eggs for 60 seconds • Old King Coal takes more substantially more damage from Ice Eggs than any of the other Eggs • You can fight Lord Woo Fak Fak as the submarine, giving you infinite ammunition Absolutely loved both of these videos though! Many, many valid points here that a lot of people don’t tend to acknowledge hahaha

[@lukethe98]

Whenever I see a new Exo video, my day is immediately improved, thank you so much for your dedication and effort!

[@genericyoutubecommentchann7418]

Unpopular opinion, but I actually like this game more than the original. The original is kind of short if you know what you’re doing, and this game was noticeably longer.

[@marcoaraujo88]

Don't know if your opinion is that unpopular. In my opinion Tooie is the better game in almost every way. I've also seen a lot of comments all over the internet saying Tooie is better, so...

[@dimenteon]

@@marcoaraujo88 from what I've seen Kazooie is generally more popular in polls and/or whenever people talk about the "best n64 games", but Tooie fans tend to both discuss their views and defend their game more often than B-K fans do

[@marcoaraujo88]

@@dimenteon maybe this is because Tooie is often "forgotten" when talking about the best N64 games, since two games from the same franchise rarely appear on those lists (Zelda OoT and MM being an exception). The same happens with Perfect Dark because of GoldenEye. Curiously enough, I play Kazooie much more often than Tooie, despite thinking the latter is the better game. Kazooie is easier to pick up and play, and has a better pacing. Tooie is more immersive and complete but also much more taxing.

[@EvilApple567]

It's not that unpopular, but I don't think your comment does a good job of justifying it, especially because it highlights what many don't enjoy about Tooie. To me Tooie just feels like more of an adventure, back tracking to previous worlds and helping out all the inhabitants of the island throughout the game and such gives it a much more cohesive vibe akin to a Zelda title than just visiting one off areas for the sake of theme variety that feel like they exist in some alternate dimension (although there is one exception, Mad Monster Mansion being Grunty's home). That's a huge part of Tooie to me, is that all the "worlds" are just real areas of the island which you can clearly see once you reach the final stage Cloud Cookooland (although I'm not sure how the Hailfire Peaks entrance works).

[@genericyoutubecommentchann7418]

EvilApple567 I wasn’t trying to make an objective argument for the game, and I didn’t really feel like writing a paragraph at the time, so I only picked one thing for that reason. I like Tooie more for other reasons too, such as the reason you mentioned, an ever-growing move set which I thought was more fun than the original, more humorous dialogue, and worlds that are more challenging than your average 3D platformer. But I like the length of this game the best because the first game had too many jiggys that were just lying around and just required you to walk up to them without any sort of effort involved. It felt more like I got a participation award than an actual reward for doing something. As a result, that game is very short, and most worlds can be completed in about 20 minutes or less on average during repeat playthoughs. Tooie had far fewer of these moments and had more of a greater emphasis on problem solving to figure out how to acquire jiggies and other collectibles, which made it much more satisfying for me. And the game wasn’t over too quickly. I understand why people don’t like it because it’s hard to 100% the first time, but I personally like to enjoy games causally during the first run and 100% it later. I did use the Xbox version with the jiggy tips, so maybe I wouldn’t have liked the original version, but I still like a longer game that’s due to problem solving than a shorter game that’s too easy most of the time. (I do still really like the original, but I much prefer the sequel for this reason.)

[@TheGameHoard]

Small correction: Klungo will use a random potion each conflict, meaning that you can face the three possibilities in a different order. Also, a minor critique. I definitely understand the approach of focusing on the negatives of well regarded titles, but I think you've fallen too deep into accentuating the negative. If I had no outside knowledge of the games covered in your videos I'd probably think they were abysmal since you barely highlight the positives of games, even the ones you ultimately say are good or enjoyable. I still love your videos and find myself agreeing with a lot of what is said, there's just little counterbalance.

[@lightninstriker10]

@@Goldenface007 I've definitely gotten Clones the first time and Giant the third time before on the 360 version.

[@ChiefMedicPururu]

Holy crap, you are right. Exo was barely talking about the positive points. Sure, the game has its problems but more than half the review was about the problems.

[@NessKuwabara]

Tooie is about as bad as he made it sound. All of the inspired design decisions from Kazooie, like tight, landmark-based, intuitive level design with nice consistent pacing. You don't really have to run around for more then 30 seconds ever to find something interesting to interact with that results in a jiggie, and The Thing That Needs to Be Done to get a jiggie is always pretty simple and straight to the point. Tooie on the other hand has these massive levels with 5 ways to "push buttons", there's Banjo+Kazooie, Banjo, Kazooie, Mumbo and the transformation. Go to the place as the right form, do the thing, backtrack to transform back to the next form you need for the next activity, then backbacktrack back through the massive, mapless, maze-like level. Many of the jiggies have "video game logic" problems, where the solution to the problem is not obvious at all: for example, the hot pool in hailfire peaks that you can't do anything with until you get to the last level. Between that and all the backbackbacktracking in different forms, it can be extremely painful to play through for the first time unless you have the determination of an 8 year old or just use a walkthrough.

[@chocov1233]

@@NessKuwabara Do you still lile the game?

[@NessKuwabara]

@@chocov1233 There's a lot of things I like about it, but most of the game design ends up being busy work. The levels are visually interesting and fun to explore, the music is very, very good, but the actual gameplay is light on platforming and heavy on backtracking, fetch quests and mindless button pushing. It's three times as tedious if you don't know what to do and where to go because you aren't consulting a walkthrough as necessary. I want to like it, but I don't think I do. I do understand why people would like it though because there are good aspects of it

[@drizz_tv]

Dragon Kazooie also gets infinite fire eggs, which makes them way more useful as a general ammo type. Not a huge upgrade but I always liked Dragon Kazooie.

[@LarryXMario]

Aw Yes! I'm ready for the 1 hour tear down.

[@becus3000]

All I can say is that this was well worth the wait. By far my favourite of any of your videos.

[@jamescortright3761]

Watched a lot of your videos, disagree with you the most here, still this is what earned the sub lol. Very well thought out. I love Banjo-Tooie. For me, I'm a big fan of open world RPG's with lots of backtracking and returning to locations so the collectathon-metroidvania mashup that Tooie is scratches just about every one of my itches. But I can see now more than ever how it strays so far away from what a majority of collectathon games are like. Even DK64 limits the backtracking to the first few levels where you dont have certain kongs yet. Great analysis, even if I totally disagree and will clutch tooie tightly to my chest to the grave!!

[@kevinvu5432]

And to be honest: what is a collect a thon? Legend of zelda: ocarina of time had golden skull tula tokens to collect and a lot of backtracking was involved. Or let's look at something more relevant: mario 64. You didnt have to collect all of the stars. Collect a thins can be almost any game and each one vary in genre. There is no collect a thon genre.

[@jjc4924]

I think Sypro the Dragon handles this way better than Banjo-Kazooie games since it's more fast paste & less limited time.

[@jamescortright3761]

@@jjc4924 i just played the spyro series for the first time on the switch and a lot of that backtracking felt less rewarding? Maybe I was just underwhelmed by the new abilities in general so the opportunity to go back and use them didn't excite me. Something about Tooie was that you never really knew what ability you needed to fix your problem, but you maybe knew it once you had it. (Ex. The toxic sludge in grunty industries) in spyro It felt more like oh heres a ladder but I cant climb ladders yet. You get an ability to climb ladders, and theres an orb up there. Thats it.

[@jjc4924]

James. At least Spyro put up an challenge and it does felt rewarding. Plus it doesn't drag nor the pacing didn't feel wasted with less backtracking if u know how to progress. Tooie really tries to fit it on an big scale. But it went overboard & the pacing breaks the flow of my time. Bigger things; doesn't always means good if it ain't done right & Tooie; IMO, doesn't do it right.

[@ChadWSmith]

My man, you are the reason I discovered my favorite Mario game of all time - SMA4:SMB3 eReader-edition. Just wanted to say thank you and so glad to see a new ROR.

[@rogerfvb]

I know it's obvious, but I gotta commend this dude for probably being one of the top 1-3 reviewers on this whole platform. He's 100% no-bullshit, as in he doesn't waste time with gags or memes and painstakingly scans every last detail. Every minute is crammed with quality.

[@BugsyFoga]

Anybody saw the Banjo tooie ad were Banjo jumped out of a plane?

[@ToadMinus1up]

rip banjo shoulda checked if kazooie was in his backpack.

[@Boccaccio1811]

Yeah, I got so excited when I saw that as a kid

[@Sam-gw3gc]

that ad was hilarious lol

[@pizzalover346]

YOU NEED A PARACHUTE !! THATS A BACKPACK!! *disregarding Banjo wave*

[@gookawild5543]

We need another commercial similar to that when the new Banjo game releases.

[@FoxFandango]

You deserve way more subscribers. Great in depth video.

[@papaG6423]

I love banjo tooie. I believe it's Rare's magnum opus, which is saying slot when considering that they also made DKC2, Perfect Dark, Conker, Killer Instinct 2, and the OG Banjo Kazooie

[@gold4963]

Thank you for being so detailed on the framerate comparison! That's exactly what I was looking for!

[@williammiller4093]

Thank you for making these reviews Exo. I love your work and more people need to know who these characters are and give them the respect they deserve.

[@CrimsonNick171]

Banjo-Tooie shows what the N64 was capable of at its absolute best.

[@jjc4924]

Despite it's bad framerates, overbloated worlds & backtracking.

[@IToastMySocks]

​@@jjc4924subjective, this level of, " i need to collect everything, now, when im here" has grown over the years.

[@polycube868]

Rare should have delayed this and made it a GameCube launch title...it would have ran so much better, by 2000 Dreamcast was already out for over a year and PlayStation 2 was avaliable for a few weeks by the time Banjo Tooie came out, Nintendo 64 was on life support by this time and couldn't hardly run this or Perfect Dark, I realize that N64 games often had frame drops, but this game was beyond bad.

[@MarkCabaniss]

After seeing this review, I’ll say this: I’ll be emotionally prepared when I play this game as part of _Rare Replay_ .

[@BirbPrincessJay]

I’m watching this half-asleep slowly fading into dreams and back to reality. This is a really relaxing video to watch. Thank you for the hard work! :)

[@Serpens6]

I like to think the designers weren’t lazy but that they really, really enjoy fetch quest. They made the game they wanted to play.

[@gamingguy9006]

Well, Rare's games have always been like that

[@johnathanbarnes8639]

Yeah, even years after the paradigm shift in philosophy, I'm still in the minority that Banjo Tooie is the superior game due to the content and actions, though my bias is more skewed towards to the fact that Tooie was where I started with the duo rather than the first game and the issue of "the sequel *has* to be better by default, right?" logic back in the heyday. Nostalgia aside, I feel the reasoning as to why the shift occurred was that Tooie was too ambitious a game and after the bloated collect-a-thon that was Donkey Kong 64, where you were literally collecting things just to collect other things, Banjo-Kazooie appears more like a happier medium of the collection-based gaming where it's level based and not world based and you aren't forced to do route planning and optimization. In Tooie, you can't do or go to certain areas until after you unlock advanced abilities from Jamjars or visiting other regions of the Isle of Hags, while in Kazooie, you could practically 100% a level with the exception of Freezeezy Peak or Gobi's Desert on your first visit. But, what made Tooie so... impressive for me was just how much it helped build the world of the series and its quirks. People like to use Kazooie as an example of storytelling by mentioning "the Gruntilda effect", but in reality, you don't garner much in dialogue from Banjo & Kazooie aside from some cutscenes. Throughout Tooie, however, they interact more often, and you get to see their personalities, especially Kazooie's, where her snark and contempt made her the more endearing one to me. You also get to see the world evolve and change as time goes on through your actions, while in Kazooie, things reset due to its level-based structure. Characters you help out early on can be encountered later or be totally unexpected based upon your actions, with one of my favorite worlds being Witchyworld, which is a pivotal area in the game for both the game's mechanics, but also where you run into several old characters, such as Gobi (who despises the bear and breegull) as well as Ms. Boggy and her children (which includes my personal favorite moment in the game, though many people may look at it as child abuse, where after you take a now morbidly obese Groggy back to her, she smashes him twice with her purse and sends him home crying). It's all relative, of course. From a mechanics standpoint, Kazooie is clearly what dedicated gamers want, but from a story perspective, and something casual gamers and people no longer as dedicated into the hobby might look into, Tooie is the game due to the time you would invest into.

[@007GoldenLion]

The shift happened because Kazooie has aged better. Tooie was more innivative when it released but other ganea have donde backtraking and level dessign better sinve then

[@AndersonCrush]

Am I the only one who really enjoys he saying "back and forth" multiple times? 52:38 Oh, okay

[@earlduran6419]

I really enjoy it too XD

[@ASAPShitPost]

I'm really glad you're uploading more often man! I love long videos, and it's awesome you put in the time to make them for us. I'd love for you to get to talk to the devs of this game and ask them why they made certain decisions they did 😂

[@DodgeThisBam]

26:03 That was mad far less depressing by that fantastic editing!

[@007GoldenLion]

Tooie was considered better by consensus upom release But it's ineresting to see how the comsensus has changes 20 yeard later

[@matthewmangan5161]

15:03 The game uses several level of detail models to try and keep the framerate stable, you'll notice that when the camera cuts to Banjo, for a split second you see his lower-poly model (for instance he doesn't have his necklace)

[@superiorgamedude]

Unpopular opinion: I like Tooie more than Kazooie.

[@kieranstark7213]

I love both of them (especially the X360 remakes) over Banjo Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts.

[@badreality2]

Rareware had separate internal teams at the time, and so Banjo-Tooie not having the aiming controls of a game that had an overlapping development cycle with it, is expected. Donkey Kong 64 was released on November 22, 1999. Banjo-Tooie was released November 20, 2000. Banjo-Tooie's game-play was already encoded by 1999, because work began on it, even before Banjo-Kazooie was released.

[@MizoxNG]

having played both games many times as a kid, and in the process of replaying them at the moment... I honestly still prefer tooie, it feels livelier and better thought out.

[@MizoxNG]

to be fair though, I'm saying this as someone who has always really enjoyed backtracking and returning to find new stuff in old areas

[@Derekuko]

@@MizoxNG I have noticed this. I love Tooie to death, but some people think it's bad just because it actually has a more cohesive, bigger world than Kazooie's painfully small worlds.

[@jjc4924]

Derek. I do think Tooie went overboard with it's layout of level structure and pacing.

[@jaretco6423]

Like he says, I think the pacing is the problem.

[@MisterGoemon]

This Game Is A Shining Example Of Bigger Not Always Being Better, Which Is Sad Considering How Consistent Banjo Kazooie Was Despite It's Shortcomings.

[@thezenitsufan1249]

As much as I love Banjo-Kazooie, In my opinion, Banjo-Tooie is even better

[@jjc4924]

I'm not an fan of both of them to be completely honest. I don't like how slow paste the games are.

[@moncay3238]

@JJ C okay? first game isn’t even slow paced

[@thelivingdrawing2262]

My only real complaint about Tooie is the Canary Mary challenges in Cloud Cuckooland being physically impossible for me (I’m terrible at button mashing). Most of the stuff you mentioned didn’t really bother me. I’m very forgiving and easy to please.

[@RethinkRetro1]

Thank you for the deep, critical and objective analysis of the games you review. I love seeing a 50 minute review in my news feed that other reviewers would dedicate only 15 Minutes on. You're thorough and it's appreciated.

[@RyanPuffs]

>”Without a game over, we don’t get to see Gruntilda and her sisters, which is a problem for the Gruntilda effect.” >”Lives have been removed, which is good as they don’t belong in a collectathon” What

[@callumsparrow4379]

@Ryan PuffsMaybe it could've been like DK64 as soon as you quit the game, where you'd get to see the villain about to enact their plans in a separate cut-scene just before the Game Over message appears.

[@ExoParadigmGamer]

+Ryan Puffs You get a game over if you pause and quit the game. That's where a cutscene of the BOB firing at the island would go.

[@poalcm]

@@ExoParadigmGamer this doesn't make sense about scope of both productions. Rarely people uses this option in the menu. It makes sense the production prioritize others stuff. And the remaster never had the will to revolution the game to the point of make new cutscenes.

[@keybladeoverlord]

@@poalcm The thing is though, quitting from the pause menu is how you saved the game on the original N64 versions of both Kazooie and Tooie. Plus Rare did the exact thing Exo mentioned in DK64, a game that also has a Game Over cutscene despite having infinite lives. Granted there is a sequence where the Game Over cutscene is utilized outside quitting from the pause menu in DK64, but the point still stands.

[@Hepodix]

Very nice video again EPG, cheers from Finland!

[@keybladeoverlord]

You comments on Spyro in the video really intrigued me and I would love to see your thoughts on the Spyro Trilogy, the comment on Ripto's Rage especially peaked my interest. This is why I love your videos Exo, even when I don't agree with you I enjoy listening to your opinions because you do them in as professional and detailed a manner that lets me understand your viewpoints more than someone just ragging on something in a way that doesn't sit right to me. I am glad I found your channel and am proud to be subscribed to you.

[@kylecampbell565]

He said on Twitter he plans to when the pc version releases

[@viridisspielt]

While I really appreciate the time and effort you took to make this video, I've never disagreed with an opinion on a game as much as in this case. It feels like you expect any 'collectathon' to be plain and easy, being playable without much thought. But this is just not what Banjo-Tooie wants to be. It's a complex puzzle - comparable to a Zelda dungeon like you said yourself. It forces you to create a mental map of the levels, know all the different characters/moves at your disposal and combine them in interesting ways. Having a jiggy accessable via an entrance from a different world for example, feels immensely rewarding once you figure it out. The level-design is also more clever than you give it credit for. There's lots of places where the developers made sure non of the different characters could get stuck, even giving you multiple ways to reach the same destination with different characters or placing additional platforms so other characters could get somewhere they don't even necessarily need to be. This is also the reason why you cannot split anywhere, as it would make using those additional routes unnecessary and simply break the intended level-design and navigation puzzles, which make a big part of the game. I agree with other points though, like the lack of a map system, the aiming controls or some less than optimal bossfights. I'd even include the timer-based first-person sections as really annoying and am surprised you rated them so positevly. In my opinion though, all in all this feels like a list of negatives that only result from a misinterpretation of what the game wants to be in the first place. It's fine if you dislike this kind of complex, interwoven, puzzle-style gameplay. But don't try to judge the game on what YOU want it to be. It feels like criticizing Mario Kart for not having a deep story and a crafting system.

[@ChiefMedicPururu]

Damn straight.

[@Neo-uy1te]

Personally, highly underrated comment, my exact sentiments.

[@ChiefMedicPururu]

@@Neo-uy1te I wonder if Exo has seen it.

[@jjc4924]

Well to be fair though, he's not wrong.

[@sebastianaliandkulche]

I think you have to compare to other collectathons at the time too like Spyro 2 to understand his point. Having complex level design is not a problem, but wandering around for circles or doing "busy work" doesnt really contribute to the challenge or the fun of the game. Making the player to pick a paper and a pen to draw the map or watching a walkthrough is certainly not an ideal way of making a game.

[@charizard1802]

You know something that makes me wonder? In the old days when we were kids games like dk 64 and banjo tooie that were a slight pain in the ass to complete some objectives, did we like them that much better because they wasted our time? Because i remember both dk 64 and Banjo Tooie very fondly from when I was child. Though that stupid barrel where you force the snappers into a hole in the castle level can go die in a hole. I loved these games and finding things to come back to and explore with a different character later. But nowadays i find it kinda tedious because i am a working adult with limited time. Is it a different mindset sort of deal with these games?

[@MoldyPond]

Thank you SO MUCH for updating the vid to mention you enjoyed the game more on your Xbox playthrough because of having prior knowledge. Quite a few games are like this and I've never seen it to be an issue of sorts (though of course it does help if the game is well paced). I wouldn't be calling Super Metroid or Shantae and the Pirate's Curse two of the (debatably) best games ever made if I only ever played through them once ;)

[@darkseidmcdonald2125]

1:00:54 im glad a reviewer such as yourself took time to mention a small detail like this, ofcourse I personally adore completing most of the time, but it seems many reviewers fail to mention this aspect of games, the way most people play them

[@demontamerbf18]

The Multiiplayer is throw away? I had hours of fun with some friends who loved the crap out of it, I'll take Tooie over Kazooie any time, I love how the worlds are interconnected, the only thing I hated with all my heart was Canary Mary's missions.

[@ChiefMedicPururu]

And yet, there's a trick to it.

[@kylecampbell565]

Exo has made it clear he doesn’t care much for multiplayer

[@shignificent]

"Forgettable tracks like Hailfire peaks-" Get out.

[@Matanumi]

Wtf...most memorable level on the game!

[@andrewhanson1180]

I haven't played the game in about 10 years and I can still remember the track.

[@becus3000]

MUSIC IS SUBJECTIVE

[@shignificent]

@@becus3000 WRONG 👀 this song is objectively good ;)

[@freyafanboy]

100%'d this game, I can't remember a single track from tooie aside from maybe mayahem temple and I still keep gettin it mixed up with the much more memorable mumbos mountain theme, everyone can have their favorites but tooie just really didn't have that many memorable tracks for me.

[@dragoon_jump3804]

Woah. This came out earlier than I expected! Nice!

[@MeltingMan234]

Actually you can boost as the Bee in the first Banjo Kazooie, it's the same button you use in Banjo Tooie. Also you forgot to mention the other cheats in Tooie. Infinite Eggs, Invincibility, Banjo and enemies running faster, etc.

[@KayFiOS]

40:44 I'm not apologizing. My comment was not meant to just point out what a bunch of other people were saying, but to emphasize that I very much had the same problem with Mad Monster Mansion and went to crazy lengths just to access an area that had an entrance that was hard to see for no good reason, especially on a CRT display.

[@jjopification]

Great review! Even though I loved Banjo-Tooie as a kid for its world building, NPCs and (back then) mind-blowing interconnectivity, I agree that it's a chore for a new player. You showcased very well what the developers should consider when making a sequel to this game. There's definitely elements they should take from BT, but a stronger focus on BKs structure would make it way more consistently fun and replayable in the long run.

[@Saxdude26]

Loving how well timed the Banjo reviews have been regarding the bear and bird returning to the spotlight. So compelling to hear your thoughts, opinions and viewpoint on the franchise. Looking forward to Grunty's Revenge and Nuts n Bolts. And yes. After that teaser on Twitter, the idea of an RoR for Abe's Oddysee is exciting.

[@jtbirdACC]

I really wish they had made stop 'n' swop unlock Bottles' Revenge. It seems like the perfect thing to add for both a port and a thank you for having both games, and it was more or less finished on the n64, minus some debugging. I can understand why they didn't, but man does that seems like a missed opportunity

[@dearcrowns]

I actually think the way you have to enter Grunty Industries is rather inventive, so I appreciate it for that...which is about the only thing I appreciate about Grunty Industries because everything else you have to say about it is correct.

[@jamesesterline]

Some suggestions for future videos: Xross-Platform: Spider-Man (2000) (PS1, N64, DC, PC) ROR: EarthBound Beginnings (NES) and EarthBound (SNES) vs Mother 1+2 (GBA) Xross-Platform: Sonic Heroes (PS2, GCN, XBOX, PC) [Although I'm pretty sure you're working on that already] ROR: Star Fox 64 (N64 vs 3DS) Xross-Platform: Rayman 2 (too many consoles to name) ROR: Kirby's Epic Yarn (Wii vs 3DS)

[@AlphaladZXA]

Wow that mother 1 +2 ROR suggestion sounds fantastic, a good interesting choice for the mediocre marathon he cut short early

[@gio5601]

Men it's Christmas tonight (or noël for me^^) i'm gonna watch your banjo video again beacause they are soooo cooool !

[@RandomBurfness]

This video provides a very fair take on Banjo-Tooie, in my opinion. While I disagree with a lot of the points here, my disagreement simply stems from my level of expertise at the game.

[@Diwasho]

Huh, this remaster is now older than the original game was at the time the remaster came out. Time flies scary fast.

[@Gecko1993HogheadIncOfficial]

Am I the only one who really appreciates Banjo-Tooie for the fact it helped introduce me to the Metroidvania genre despite its faults? Sure it’s not perfect, but I can tell many this: unless your name is Tetris (not including Puzzled on Neo-Geo or especially the CDi version) no game is perfect! Just be thankful for what game it is, and not what most want it to be. Regardless, I respect your opinion, and this was a GREAT review! One of your best I have seen to date!

[@ricardopagan7143]

Hell yeah thank you for all the work you put into these. Banjo tooie here we go

[@ricardopagan7143]

First

[@nitinanku]

ricardo pagan You weren’t first

[@ricardopagan7143]

First comment I did indeed not the first to say first though. Check out the time stamp on comments to confirm boiiii

[@nitinanku]

ricardo pagan I checked and you are definitely not first, you’re second. Veiyr was first

[@ricardopagan7143]

It's a tie then I see 48 min on both comments as of now

[@Tacom4ster]

I'm getting to my home to watch this on my TV, your maybe the only KZbinr I do this for

[@chervanabachi5513]

Funny thing is, and I know people are going to hate me for saying this, but as much of a divisive game DK64 is in terms of being a collect-a-thon, it does a better job driving the story and reminding the player the stakes at hand with pre-world cutscenes of K.Rool and his Blast-O-Matic than Tooie does, if not better than Kazooie.

[@kevinvu5432]

Tooie > Dk64 > kazooie for me

[@Jack-kx5mh]

Dk64 is my favorite game of all time I own 5 copies 2 of which are complete in box

[@PeruvianPotato]

Me and you aren't gonna get along

[@Kohchu]

They could've retooled one of the eggs to unlock Bottles Revenge, a 2 Player mode that has a second player able to control enemies... it's mostly functional and doesn't cause any breaks; so it makes no sense why it wasn't included in the first place.

[@ChiefMedicPururu]

Because it would have broke the game.

[@Kohchu]

@@ChiefMedicPururu How? At no point does Bottles Revenge break the game? - Bosses are unaffected - Normal enemies are barely a threat anyway - 2P is OPTIONAL (Don't use it if you don't want too) - There are no breaks or glitches to speak of - There are some enemies you can't even control. Explain how this "breaks the game" compared to stuff like Banjo's Double Jump glitch.

[@ChiefMedicPururu]

@@Kohchu Look, if you want someone to answer this for real, go ask one of the creators.

[@ZXBehemothXZ]

Having not played this game since around 2002 or so, I forgot about that level with the first person shooter It's doubly wild that the way Kazooie is handled as a gun looks like how it is in DOOM with the guns being in the center, as opposed to the bottom corners.

[@946]

the Klungo bosses mixes it up depending on which save file you pick so you have a chance of fighting clone Klungo in the fist encounter. Also, for clone Kulngo, for me as a kid, I found out that the one with the birghtest face is the real one. idk how to explain it.