Mercedes-Benz - The Facelift E-Class (W210) Meets the Competition (2000)

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@MrKleo21
@MrKleo21 5 жыл бұрын
As an owner of a w210 e320 cdi for the past 7 years i must say this: The biggest problem with these cars is the rust. If you live in a place where it snows 7 months a year and the roads are filled with salt, buy something else! Other than that engines and gearboxes are excellent. The 5 g tronic gearbox might have some conductor plate issues, but once fixed they can last forever. The diesels are refined, frugal and torquey, especially the om613 is one of the best diesels ever made by merc, combining reliability,fuel economy and performance. Apart from that there a few electric gremlins, all of them cheap and easy to fix though. If you can find a w210 with very little to no rust, go for it. They are true bargains.
@hulkhodn5728
@hulkhodn5728 Жыл бұрын
Without the Rust it Would have been the best Benz ever
@AndyZULUL
@AndyZULUL 6 ай бұрын
and the dreaded crank position sensor
@timwinks8088
@timwinks8088 4 ай бұрын
In Australia they're in perfect rust free condition​@@hulkhodn5728
@mrpowerlifter1413
@mrpowerlifter1413 Ай бұрын
​@@hulkhodn5728Yes, it is, maybe not too pretty, but with soul of old Benz.
@wernerbloemwagen6878
@wernerbloemwagen6878 5 жыл бұрын
In South Africa we don't have any rust issues - not inland at least - mine is a 1997 E230 auto sedan with 485000km's and by the Grace of GOD ALMIGHTY it's still going strong - even did a trip to Cape Cross in Namibia two years ago.
@Alexander_Timonin
@Alexander_Timonin 5 жыл бұрын
No rust in Australia as well, love my silver 96 e320 elegance
@TheQrzysiek
@TheQrzysiek 4 жыл бұрын
i suppose you guys know that you dont have these issues because of the different climate, im jelaous tho - mine facelift model in europe is still going strong after 570000km and I dont have that much of a rust issue on it either, only small parts here and there and im getting it fixed soon
@marlonbaird6070
@marlonbaird6070 4 жыл бұрын
@JAN BLOEM I'm been searching for facelift w210..does the e230 carry the body well???also from south africa
@wernerbloemwagen6878
@wernerbloemwagen6878 4 жыл бұрын
@@marlonbaird6070 : Hello Marlon - it is slowish (not too bad) in town, but that's not what its forté is : It is magnificent on the open road however. More than enough power ánd very economical : upto 17km/L
@miljororforsprakpartiet290
@miljororforsprakpartiet290 4 жыл бұрын
ist it fast ??? it must be Snow/salt that makes it rust away.. my w201 was almost rust free but in one winter of snow + salt it had to be Scrapped :(
@kieranwhite6647
@kieranwhite6647 5 жыл бұрын
You can hear the front arches sizzle when it rains
@jetstream454
@jetstream454 5 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂
@SeamusKeating
@SeamusKeating 3 жыл бұрын
Prawn crackers were the primary material
@tommyolsen8224
@tommyolsen8224 5 жыл бұрын
Miss my old W210 , was a very good car!
@bradford_shaun_murray
@bradford_shaun_murray 3 жыл бұрын
I've heard that the E Class is one of the finest cars in the world... 15:58
@Munakas-wq3gp
@Munakas-wq3gp 7 ай бұрын
My first MB was a 1996 E320 with the M104 engine. It has all the option extras, xenon lights, orthopedic seats, sunroof etc. And the car looked and smelled like new at 105000km when I bought it. I drove it trouble free to 300000km at which point I gave it to my wife. She drove about 30000km more before the rust started to really show. I tried to have it repainted but in the end I sold it for cheap...
@briananthony4044
@briananthony4044 5 жыл бұрын
I had a '96 E280 Elegance, owned it up to quarter of a million miles. Nice car, surprising amount of go, nice simple interior with rotary heater controls. Normal wear and tear, no rust, sold it and brought a '98 E430 Advantgarde with AMG upgrade, wheels, brakes, suspension, gearbox, etc. Wonderful handling, braking, acceleration, etc. Again had until similar mileage to previous. No real problems, one rear window motor and left electric mirror replaced. Electronics controls more fiddly. Problem though with low front end in that with parallel parking, it would go over curb unnoticed, then scrap front undertray backing off, eventually damaging it. Had E46 330i and mid 2000 730i. Both nice cars, 330 like driving a gokart, but expensive to repair when it broke down a few times. The 7 series broke down all the time. First was a plastic pulley, yes plastic, that carried drive belt, it went loosing PS, water pump etc. Every month was something else. Latest is a late model C class 220 cdi Elegance, trouble free for 3 years so far.
@MG-yu6do
@MG-yu6do 5 жыл бұрын
Brian Anthony what Model year is your new Mercedes?
@matthewking5612
@matthewking5612 3 жыл бұрын
Rot box
@racekar80
@racekar80 5 жыл бұрын
I had two, a 320 and a 430. Both were excellent going well over 150000 miles without anything more than routine maintenance. I actually liked them better than the next generation which I got rid of quickly.
@jonathanwilson1380
@jonathanwilson1380 2 жыл бұрын
My first car has been a w210 e320 wagon, I had to repair some electrical gremlins that I cursed at, but after that this car is shockingly bulletproof, I’ve not been kind to it, going over bumps with 20 bags of gravel in the back, power sliding on dirt, there have been multiple times that I have done something so stupid I had to get out of the car and make sure nothing was broken, and miraculously this car lives
@muhammadbariq128
@muhammadbariq128 5 жыл бұрын
proud to be owner w21O facelift...its so comfortable and smoothness of v6 engine made me enjoyed every single drive..so gentleman driving experience...tq for great video
@mafioso8582
@mafioso8582 5 жыл бұрын
What year is facelift on this car
@hellosunshine1090
@hellosunshine1090 5 жыл бұрын
MY 2000
@muhammadbariq128
@muhammadbariq128 5 жыл бұрын
demhaaa 99-O4
@TheM275
@TheM275 5 жыл бұрын
Im in Australia and i own a 2001 E320 Avantgarde wagon. 271,000km and adore it to bits. It's been extremely reliable and hasn't caused me issues to date. Seems like a lot of people who whinge about these have never owned one.
@ililiililliliill9498
@ililiililliliill9498 5 жыл бұрын
It depends alot on where you live. Here in finland these cars are commonly seen very rusty due to salt on the roads in the winter. I had one with suprisingly little rust and i loved it. It had over 600 000 km when i sold it 😁
@mafioso8582
@mafioso8582 5 жыл бұрын
@@ililiililliliill9498 What year of this W210 is best? Which year is the best for this car,i wanna comfortable,reliable diesel with automatic gearbox
@ililiililliliill9498
@ililiililliliill9498 5 жыл бұрын
demhaaa the facelifted models from 2000-2002 have less rust issues and alot of other issues have been fixed+they look a little better. But honestly i suggest buying a W211 from 2004-> since they have no major rust issues and they are nowadays pretty affordable. I dont know which ones are more reliable but i have seen both w210 and w211 with more that 600 000km or 400 000 miles 😄
@mafioso8582
@mafioso8582 5 жыл бұрын
@@ililiililliliill9498 Oh okay,what about gearbox? Is automatic good?
@ililiililliliill9498
@ililiililliliill9498 5 жыл бұрын
demhaaa I have heard that the automatics are pretty reliable but if you want a bullettproof transmission then get a manual. I’ve only had manuals so i have no experience on the automatics but they dont have a bad reputation of breaking down so i guess they are good. Of course automatic transmissions from that era were very slow so they might not be as fun to drive as modern automatics.
@skatewaverider
@skatewaverider 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve just bought a 96 E320 from a one owner with 72000kms on it and it’s like it’s come out the showroom,all I can say is what a gorgeous car….
@FLJAMESFL
@FLJAMESFL 5 жыл бұрын
Love the single wiper.
@-DC-
@-DC- 5 жыл бұрын
Rust ridden wrecks a real low point in MB quality, love the content my man.
@garren3498
@garren3498 5 жыл бұрын
Nah I had a 2000 e55 amg and it was rustfree except the left fender and I replaced it for 300 euro, it was an amazing car
@embajadoresboy4535
@embajadoresboy4535 5 жыл бұрын
I still have my 2000 E55 park in my garage and ready to go anytime I wish. No Rust, Nowadays sought after my MB mechanics but unfortunately it isn’t for sell.
@SpagettyCraft
@SpagettyCraft 4 жыл бұрын
thats a pretty shit stereotype. yeah it can rust if you dont give a fuck about it, but other than that everything is incredibly reliable in it. it has the best engines of al generations and the most longlasting interior. you can find them with 500k+ miles on them and still look fresh inside. the real low point was the 211 on launch with it's 8000$ sbc failure. this is the second most reliable mercedes after the w124, so shh
@vdochev
@vdochev 4 жыл бұрын
Rust on facelifts shouldn't be an issue. Pre-facelifts were the first which were painted with water based paint and the process wasn't perfected, but with the face lift they fixed it.
@SpagettyCraft
@SpagettyCraft 4 жыл бұрын
@@vdochev fl didnt fix it completely tho, but it got better
@billybellend1155
@billybellend1155 5 жыл бұрын
Tiff and Quentin got a free Mercedes car each out of this video. Tiff got a Ml320
@zenithred9731
@zenithred9731 5 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't surprise me. Even this E-Class on a greedy budget compared to the previous generations was a reference but the obscene way he bashes the competition destroyed his credibility in a blink.
@paulsz6194
@paulsz6194 Жыл бұрын
Really! How did you find this one out? Where can I read more about it? By the way, never really saw Tiff Needell in a Mercedes!
@MrHerberttarlek
@MrHerberttarlek 5 жыл бұрын
2001 W210 with 136,000miles she runs like a dream and there is no rust in Sothern California.
@bigrigger3762
@bigrigger3762 5 жыл бұрын
Not a patch on the W124 predecessor, couldn’t even eat ready salted crisps in one for the fear of it rusting.
@advancelast1740
@advancelast1740 5 жыл бұрын
completely agree! mind you i have a 2011 W212 E250CDI with 100,000 miles on it and not one thing , not even a light bulb, has gone wrong. First Merc i have owned and it has been a brilliant car…sadly now to be traded in for a Golf GTE. A sign of the times...
@AdamAus85
@AdamAus85 5 жыл бұрын
Aye, I'd say I prefer the looks of the W124 too.
@nosutv2893
@nosutv2893 5 жыл бұрын
hehe so will be even more rare then W124
@politicalfoolsandhorses
@politicalfoolsandhorses 4 жыл бұрын
@@advancelast1740 Traded for a Golf ! Crazy.
@Krezo200
@Krezo200 3 жыл бұрын
@@advancelast1740 you traded the w124 for a new golf ?!
@andrewsmactips
@andrewsmactips 5 жыл бұрын
I would rather buy a car for myself, because I like it. He reminds me of the old saying about someone buying a car they don't want, with money they don't have, to impress the neighbor they don't like.
@kingstoncristiano5837
@kingstoncristiano5837 3 жыл бұрын
InstaBlaster.
@aram4002
@aram4002 5 жыл бұрын
if I didnt read the video title. I would’ve thought this was a video from late 2000’s. Im amazed with the video quality since its from year 2000
@detonater1348
@detonater1348 2 жыл бұрын
I'm sitting in my silver 01 E320 4matic while watching this. What a comfortable and easy to drive car she is. My other car is a W140 S class and that feels like a house in wheels and kinda can feel the weight when u drive it. Heavy gas pedal, heavy brakes it's like wearing timberland shoes. It will force you to act calm, bossy and collected. This on the other hand can be tossed anywhere and feels light to the touch. Both got their own qualities. The W140 is a highway cruiser and feels a bit out of place in congested streets. But is the king of the highway. The E class is perfect for cities and being a mercedes, it shines in the highway as well. classic mercs made in the 90s and earlier oooze class and quality that the newer ones struggle to have
@allseeingguy5485
@allseeingguy5485 5 жыл бұрын
Let's not forget the issue with the ESP and brake light switch. When the switch fails, the brakes grab with full pressure. No matter how fast you are going. Great job, MB!
@ililiililliliill9498
@ililiililliliill9498 5 жыл бұрын
Hmm first time i have heard about this.. i dont have a w210 but i have a w203 from the same modelyear and i had a malfunction message from the car about the brake light switch and nothing else happened...🤔
@raycroal
@raycroal 4 жыл бұрын
@@ililiililliliill9498 its shit that he talks
@martinsv9183
@martinsv9183 2 жыл бұрын
Haha no they didnt you retard :) Absolutely 0 happens. Except you might have trouble getting the gear lever out of P when you park.
@Visionery1
@Visionery1 5 жыл бұрын
During the W124 era the engineers controlled design and quality, after the W124 these functions were taken over by the accountants.
@martinsv9183
@martinsv9183 2 жыл бұрын
Yes but the 210 still managed to reamin very solid. Rust is the only real problem you will have with that car. Although a serious one i you get snow and salt.
@JohnWilliams-oy2rc
@JohnWilliams-oy2rc 5 жыл бұрын
ive had brzs volvos skylines new benz cars and I have to say the most unique looking and aristocratic looking is the w210, with the beautiful smooth ride that rides better than my new benz. the understated burl wood accents, the very masculine yet classy interior reminiscent of the w140, most people that hate on this car never owned one, because they let thought of rust prevent them from this endeavour, its ok let them miss out, while we still enjoy our 210s. I like the e39 too though its a beautiful car one of the nicests beamers ever made : ] but im a benz guy at heart and nothing can match the elegance and class of the 210. it was one the last good classic looking benz cars, the ones that came after like the s220 and the e211 had countless issues, and they are very underwhelming when you see them in person, and the interior just falls to pieces over time, and the creaks of those generations are insane.... they are quite small and they have hyundai vibes but the 210 really makes a statement if its one painted right. it looks so fancy. a beautiful car, it just has some royal vibes and to be honest it has gangster vibes, this car looks UNIQUE and makes a statement of some ceo or an attorney or lawyer pulling up. many cars look like the e39 like the beamers that came after it althought a beauty and a future classic it just looks like the typical capsule shaped car, also the the audi just looks like the rest on the road but the 210 has that beautiful square mafia vibe with the awesome front. check out the w210 in the rapper SHYNE bad boy video or Korns got the life video, and to the taxi comment, let the haters hate and I salute the ones that love the 210. Cheers!!!!
@loopmer
@loopmer 5 жыл бұрын
My Dad's W210 2.0 CDI is a lucky one. Just a little bit of rust! 360.000 Kilometers and its still running like on his first day! All you have to do is take care! Clean your Car by Hand, change oil and filters every year.
@thatmatty231guy
@thatmatty231guy 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly - good maintenance and keep it clean should be good as gold.
@detonater1348
@detonater1348 2 жыл бұрын
This guy is spot on when describing the BMW onwnerd 😭😂 "they are tempermental and can't handle anything more powerful than a electric razor" wheeew that's just the best description of the century
@Paul-mq5yn
@Paul-mq5yn 5 жыл бұрын
The Chrysler era is a chapter of Mercedes history best forgotten.
@raycroal
@raycroal 4 жыл бұрын
@Ike N your right the chrysler thing is a myth
@raycroal
@raycroal 4 жыл бұрын
@Ike N the problem is so many people just repeat what they hear other's say
@raycroal
@raycroal 4 жыл бұрын
@Ike N the cars and motors that they like to blame as cheapened by chrysler were designed well before the chrysler deal, the other thing is i thought mercedes bought chrysler not the other way around
@raycroal
@raycroal 4 жыл бұрын
@Ike N yep chinese whispers
@SeamusKeating
@SeamusKeating 3 жыл бұрын
It was Merc thinking they'd make more money with shorter design times, less development.....greed
@ManAggelopoulos
@ManAggelopoulos Жыл бұрын
I own a W210 E240 01 model i must say what a beautiful drive. The V6 never seems to stop juat keeps on going. Luckily i live in a hot country so not even one bit of rust on it. Just over 220000kms still drives/looks lile new.
@jusbus777
@jusbus777 5 жыл бұрын
All cars have problems. But I can attest to the reliability of a w210 furthermore I can't go a day much less a week without seeing a different another one. They are solid cars.
@e46M3_DakarYellow
@e46M3_DakarYellow 5 жыл бұрын
You missed to drive the best car in this Era only by judging the people who buy it 5 series is seriously a great car...
@michaelwatling1650
@michaelwatling1650 3 жыл бұрын
I am amazed at the number of comments criticising Wilson and Needell for “bias”. Don’t they realise that this was a training video produced by Mercedes as part of its training programme, presumably for the benefit of its sales personnel. Just read the description of the video: “Mercedes-Benz - The Facelift E-Class (W210) Meets the Competition (2000) Training and Development Video.” Wilson and Needell are just reading a script.
@martinsv9183
@martinsv9183 2 жыл бұрын
Haha. Its a car review. Not a training video.
@samshuttlewood8600
@samshuttlewood8600 5 жыл бұрын
I love Quentin Willson but even he must have been saying inside "why am I saying this" when he was slagging off the e39 BMW. I'm not a fanboy of any German cars, but let's be honest, the E39 is arguably the greatest executive saloon ever. To try and sell the Merc by saying "there are too many BMWs" is quite silly. He should have just said "the E39 is incredible but the Merc has it pipped for comfort" or something.
@AdamAus85
@AdamAus85 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, well said Sam. I've got an E39 and I know I'd probably be more comfortable in the E class of the times (plus I'm on m sport suspension). I wouldn't be as happy with the interior build quality, the exterior design, handling, etc. though. In Australia I still see quite a number of E39s getting around (and this was back when the brand was more of a niche one). Seeing a W210 in the wild is a much rarer occurrence.
@alexandreb.1101
@alexandreb.1101 4 жыл бұрын
Even the C5 was a spectacular, revolutionary sedan when it came out. He complained about red lights? Dude WTF. It's because of people like him that no brand has a signature light color. Audi used to be red, Benz used to be yellow/amber, and BMW orange. Now everything is freaking white
@martinsv9183
@martinsv9183 2 жыл бұрын
@@AdamAus85 The interior quality in the MB is better. going to last longer. Just look at the seats with same high miles between the cars.
@lecramred4453
@lecramred4453 5 жыл бұрын
I owned a pre-face lift E240 petrol estate and a MOPF E320 CDI estate. I now own a S212 E250 CGI estate. Awesome cars!
@georgobergfell
@georgobergfell 5 жыл бұрын
when I think of the W210 i only think of rust... otherwise they are absolutely excelent cars even today.
@waverunner7063
@waverunner7063 5 жыл бұрын
Almost 20 years later and the GS would have been the best purchase.
@jameshill6372
@jameshill6372 5 жыл бұрын
Om606 in that merc is good for big bhp
@tjallaballa
@tjallaballa 5 жыл бұрын
No the e320 cdi or the e300 turbodiesel
@shawndon7374
@shawndon7374 2 жыл бұрын
Easily. Especially with the UZ v8. It will outlive all those goofball brits and those moneypit germans
@pit_stop77
@pit_stop77 5 жыл бұрын
I had one, resprayed 3 times due to rust. Ignition failed, £700 new barrel, new key £150, Useless heaters, final straw was front suspension rotting out, sills rotting, and injectors failing. Fixed it and sold it to an Albanian geezer who exported it to Albania. Best of luck to him. Never again......
@ibtixgaming7168
@ibtixgaming7168 5 жыл бұрын
Looks like u didn't care it well
@bibbylil5153
@bibbylil5153 5 жыл бұрын
I see you from Hungary
@pit_stop77
@pit_stop77 5 жыл бұрын
Didn't care for it? Spending 2k repairing it isn't caring for it? If they were so fantastic, how come, there are virtually none left on UK roads?
@garethwilding2067
@garethwilding2067 5 жыл бұрын
@@pit_stop77 there shit, watch some recent banger racing vids on KZbin, them guys love them on the oval
@paulsz6194
@paulsz6194 Жыл бұрын
Not suprised you sold it to an Albanian...they will almost by any three pointed star if the paint is still shiny. According to some , Albania had the most used old Mercedes vehicles per capita in Europe.
@3082103
@3082103 5 жыл бұрын
absolute beauty
@johnnyholmbendtsen3963
@johnnyholmbendtsen3963 4 жыл бұрын
I own a 2001 w210. Though it has 470000 km on the dash, it still runs as smooth as a new car, and I love it. Must say that it had a major overhaul on rust issues last spring, but hey, what's the expect on a 20 year old car that's driven every day all year round, in a country where salt is used on the roads in the wintertime.
@Greig300
@Greig300 5 жыл бұрын
Lovely rust
@Scouter98
@Scouter98 5 жыл бұрын
W210 is a lovely place to be in, excellent ride quality and interior. Smoother than my A6 for sure. I complain about my C5 rusting but oh boy a little rust on the doors is nothing compared to the W210. Makes sense tho, look at the amount of C5s and E39s on the road. Almost no W210, idk when I last saw one.
@ihsanrosyadi
@ihsanrosyadi 5 жыл бұрын
Joe Barbaro i think it depends, in my country there is lots of W210 on the road.
@Scouter98
@Scouter98 5 жыл бұрын
@@ihsanrosyadi well yea arabs bought all the old benzos and shipped them away
@Marklin15
@Marklin15 5 жыл бұрын
Still plenty of W210 on the road in the U.S. Most are rust free but I have seen a few with euro levels of rust.
@robertbrandywine
@robertbrandywine 5 жыл бұрын
@@Marklin15 I go months without seeing one.
@alexandreb.1101
@alexandreb.1101 4 жыл бұрын
Here in portugal, W210s and W202s are still everywhere
@pancakeswaffles2402
@pancakeswaffles2402 5 жыл бұрын
I own a 98’ W210 and it has never gave me any major issues. It’s really reliable if you take care of it. Just one small issue with it is the small amount of rust on the bumper, other than that it’s an amazing car.
@berykent4598
@berykent4598 4 жыл бұрын
I love this cool car
@form109
@form109 4 жыл бұрын
Drove a 2000 E320 Back in 2016. One thing to love about that car is how solid it feels. Just close the doors. feels solid going over imperfections in the pavement. Interior is nice without being over the top. Too bad they rust. Seems to be their largest downfall.
@indrasoebagjo
@indrasoebagjo 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree with this video....
@ChimaChindaDev
@ChimaChindaDev 5 жыл бұрын
4:52 Is that rust? (bottom left near the door)
@kreizmann2943
@kreizmann2943 5 жыл бұрын
No
@Rosbergen80
@Rosbergen80 4 жыл бұрын
Dirt
@no-damn-alias
@no-damn-alias 5 жыл бұрын
Never ask Taxi drivers who had the W124 or the W123 about the W210 unless you have a good life insurance
@regazzoni6972
@regazzoni6972 5 жыл бұрын
I worked as a taxi driver when the W210 was new and it was a great car to have as a taxi. The problems with rust came when at lot later with them when it was no longer in use as a taxi. We only had them for three years then they were replaced with a new W210. The W211 was in my mind a much worse car to have as a taxi, it was smaller on the inside and was quality wise much worse than the W210.
@no-damn-alias
@no-damn-alias 5 жыл бұрын
and what is with all the bushings in the W210? They wore out so much faster.
@ImpalamansGarage
@ImpalamansGarage 4 жыл бұрын
2000 W210 Estate - E320 - 240,000 miles - Driven every day.
@kyzma-p6c
@kyzma-p6c 3 жыл бұрын
W203 please🙏
@kennylees
@kennylees 5 жыл бұрын
The real e class 😍 like no other
@FeeneyStephen
@FeeneyStephen 9 ай бұрын
I bought my w210 E240 2;6 Avantgarde petrol. about 8 years ago, when they had gone out of fashion. It had 39,500 on the clock and there were issues with the crank and Cam sensors. Now resolved and 20,000 miles down the track. Rust is lurking and waiting to emerge I should have treated it sooner. I love the car and it irks me that it has become my stand by car. I had a 2003 C320 avantgarde which looked like the little brother of my E class. I replaced that with the newer C180, and that gave up the ghost at 60,000 miles , despite a full and complete Mercedes benz service history. The dealer took pity om my plight and bought it back from me at the market value. Well, the bottom of the market. I have looked at newer cars, but for the moment I am staying with my old car. My friend affectionally, refers to it as ; Miss Daisy, as in Driving Miss Daisy. Well Miss Daisy was naughty last week and broke the 20 mph speed limit in Wales and was clocked at 29mph( God alone knows how. I had it at 25 MPH and oops smile for the camera please. Now I drive Miss Daisy with the speed limiter at 24mph. I do understand why 20 is plenty in a lot of places but honestly I feel criminalised for remaining at a safe and steady speed; still under 30 mph. 😇
@phil955i
@phil955i 5 жыл бұрын
Shame they rusted like billy-o though. I had it's successor, a W211 E320CDI about 10 years ago, still the best car I've ever owned.
@andykeeble2269
@andykeeble2269 5 жыл бұрын
I've had a w211 320cdi for the past 5 years now on 172k, I've bought an s205 but can't bring myself to sell the 211, superb cars!
@mafioso8582
@mafioso8582 5 жыл бұрын
@Henry Discipline What year is this Mercedes in video?
@hellosunshine1090
@hellosunshine1090 5 жыл бұрын
@@mafioso8582 2000
@phil955i
@phil955i 3 жыл бұрын
@Ian M are we talking about the same car? Lol
@ELPROFERAPOLDSCHOOL
@ELPROFERAPOLDSCHOOL 2 жыл бұрын
Yo feliz desde hace 2 meses que compré mi E320 W210 del año 2002 con 159000 kilómetros originales 👍💪🇲🇽🇲🇽
@christiankansichi6622
@christiankansichi6622 5 жыл бұрын
Wow this guy was unbelievably biased! The way he based the A6 and the 5 series.
@martinsv9183
@martinsv9183 2 жыл бұрын
Haha.. having an opinion is not being biased :)
@balleregis9398
@balleregis9398 3 жыл бұрын
Music please 0:32 to 1:35
@ibtixgaming7168
@ibtixgaming7168 5 жыл бұрын
I still have my W210 E230 avantgarde and its great. To those who say it rusts, so does these other cars. It's how you care for the W210 and many didn't. Mine only had one owner but he didn't know alot about cars, he just drove it as a normal person. He only changed the oil and no parts like brakes and other parts needed for services. He is a tool but can't blame the guy.
@jetstream454
@jetstream454 5 жыл бұрын
No rust treatment mate, and I believe my w202 is probably the same. Thankfully most of Australia doesn't snow, so no salted roads, not too much rust here hahaha
@ibtixgaming7168
@ibtixgaming7168 5 жыл бұрын
@@jetstream454 it snows alot here and if they salt the roads i wash it as fast as i can. It stays mostly in the garage while i take my dad's W212 for tasks. Did you think your c200 had enough power? It seems good cus the C is lighter, the E200 i tried didn't seem so enjoyable tho.
@jz5937
@jz5937 5 жыл бұрын
They’re terrible as far as the rust. Yes, you have to wash them off constantly. If you do, though...They shouldn’t have too much of a problem. Great car for a dry warmer climate.
@Thanos.m
@Thanos.m 5 жыл бұрын
Well the jags didn't rust the rover 75 didn't rust the 5 series didn't rust I've seen these mercs rotting out even southern Europe and that says a lot
@ibtixgaming7168
@ibtixgaming7168 5 жыл бұрын
Idc what is said, mine is fine and works perfect.
@kiritanJ
@kiritanJ 5 жыл бұрын
So we have the Audi, the BMW, the Jag, the Lex, and the MB. And they are the finest cars. And the MB W210 is one of them. 15:58
@prrrakrrra
@prrrakrrra 5 жыл бұрын
Audi a6 and BMW stood the test of time. This geezer didn't have a clue what he was on about
@jusbus777
@jusbus777 5 жыл бұрын
Stop tricking yourself. A6! I can't go one day much less a week without seeing a w210 in some shape or form. You will have to go to the junk yard to see a C4-C5 A6.
@AdamAus85
@AdamAus85 5 жыл бұрын
@@jusbus777 That's odd. W210 is a rare sight in Australia next to the E39.
@billybellend1155
@billybellend1155 5 жыл бұрын
The W210 used to collapse on peoples driveways due to the spring seat cups rusting through.
@garethwilding2067
@garethwilding2067 5 жыл бұрын
Yes spring hangers and evdry panel fitted rusting, bags of shit, the banger boys love them tho
@hellosunshine1090
@hellosunshine1090 5 жыл бұрын
Funny the battle comes down to Sporty & hip vs Dignified & refined, BMW vs Mercedes Benz...and the attitude of those who drive them !
@timothythegreat6294
@timothythegreat6294 3 ай бұрын
i love this guy he is sooooooo right bless him 🪽
@JoesGoldenGarage
@JoesGoldenGarage 4 жыл бұрын
So are u saying these were rusty ? Lol. I have had 5 from warm sunny Georgia US and they were spotless. I recently sold my 2000 e430. It hardly had a paint chip. Zero rust. Best cars ever in my opinion. Tho....,I am driving a w124 diesel now
@lyndon8488
@lyndon8488 5 жыл бұрын
I own a c280 07 model best car I ever had zero rust and I live in a snow state. but I take care of it so there ya go.
@nurahmadramli3049
@nurahmadramli3049 5 жыл бұрын
Volvo S60 not in compition?
@pakeydavid382
@pakeydavid382 4 жыл бұрын
Nowhere near. The Volvo S80 was supposed to be the competitor of this class, but it lacked the image back then. Still a good car tho. Had them both, the E-class was much better for the money, but the S80 just simply doesn't rust away.
@alexandreb.1101
@alexandreb.1101 4 жыл бұрын
The S80 was class leading. They overbuilt the hell out of that bodyshell back then
@will5436
@will5436 3 жыл бұрын
My preference but I think the pre face lift W210 looks better.
@armedessential
@armedessential 8 ай бұрын
Id take the e39 5 series any day
@Tigerfire75
@Tigerfire75 5 жыл бұрын
Question how much does it cost to replace those airbags? Also how do I know that the airbags won't malfunction? How do I know that they won't shoot shards at me when they deploy?
@hellosunshine1090
@hellosunshine1090 5 жыл бұрын
You sound like a worrier ! If its 2019 and you're driving a 2000 era w210, and crash bad enough to deploy airbag, car is so far depreciated it's now a parts car. Here in Texas these are $3-5 k clean used all day long. Never heard of airbags deploying accidentally. This keeps you up at night ?
@Tigerfire75
@Tigerfire75 5 жыл бұрын
@@hellosunshine1090 The same statement is true for a brand new car. Why is it the government doesn't pay out of the politician's own pocket that ordered all cars have airbags if said airbags injure? Also why does the government get to tell me what type of vehicle I am allowed to buy?
@pjoter_pl7068
@pjoter_pl7068 5 жыл бұрын
W211 please
@IceMan-il7dx
@IceMan-il7dx 5 жыл бұрын
Shit. I sold mine within a month after foolishly trading out of a W124 260E, 1989 model. Oh, and here in Australia I have found W124s in fields with less rust.
@mafioso8582
@mafioso8582 5 жыл бұрын
What year of W210 is the best? I just wanna reliable,comfortable W210,what year is the best of this Merc? And is a gearbox good?
@TheM275
@TheM275 5 жыл бұрын
mafioso 2000 to 2002 E320 V6 great combo with 5 speed 722.6 transmission
@martinsv9183
@martinsv9183 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheM275 430 just as good also.
@kiritanJ
@kiritanJ 5 жыл бұрын
8:43 Do you sleep OK at night?
@Perkelenaattori
@Perkelenaattori 5 жыл бұрын
Vicki Butler Henderson used to be so hot in this version of Top Gear.
@mikebarnard5339
@mikebarnard5339 5 жыл бұрын
Had a W210 320. Good car, apart from some rust.
@mafioso8582
@mafioso8582 5 жыл бұрын
What year of this W210 is best? Which year is the best for this car,i wanna comfortable,reliable diesel with automatic gearbox
@maboyyhcj3333
@maboyyhcj3333 4 жыл бұрын
@@mafioso8582 2002 e320cdi
@martinsv9183
@martinsv9183 2 жыл бұрын
@@mafioso8582 Best is as new as you can get. But always get the face lift. Means at least a 2000 model.
@willvandeusen7130
@willvandeusen7130 2 жыл бұрын
I know rust was a problem for these but being in California it’s a perfect car since we don’t have that
@leenevin8451
@leenevin8451 5 жыл бұрын
i thought rovr meant rovers
@iwantmycountrybackkg4482
@iwantmycountrybackkg4482 4 жыл бұрын
The rear arches are crumbling as he speaks
@bartchojnicki
@bartchojnicki Жыл бұрын
his and her airBags?
@ezmosco-
@ezmosco- 5 жыл бұрын
Ullswater?
@michaelheimbrand5424
@michaelheimbrand5424 5 жыл бұрын
Gotta love the journalists. If they had included the Citroën XM, they would already "know" that it would be a rusty moneypit and make your life miserable. I never "knew" but anyway, i trusted Citroën XM. So much in fact that i have driven almost a million km in XM´s. And never ever had they let me down. Of course there been issues, but not at all like the Germans. And also. I live in the west of Sweden. One of the most corrosive places on earth. And as the Mercs rusted away and the BMW´s died a slow electronic death, my XM´s just kept on. Last but not least. I have a 1990 in my garage. Has been used every winter since it was new and yes, got a lot of salt on it, and it´s still 99% free from rust. And there is not a single electrical problem on it. And that´s a high spec model with all equipment you could buy. And you will probably say that i am an introvert that never had anything else. Ok. I had tventy Volvos, 8 Mercs and five Audis. And in my garage is also a mint Mercedes 400SE. So i think i am entitled to at least have an opinion. After all, i am a bit of a horder when it comes to XM. I have four now, and over the years it been a lot more. Give them a minimum of service and they will last a lifetime. Common problems? Well. The front suspension mounts can be bad. Fixed in 30 minutes. The hydraulic pipes is a place where you want some rust protection. And on the early ones you want to change two grounding points. (20 min job). Having driven XM´s for decades had very much made me sceptical about everything a motor journalist say.
@bilalahmed2123
@bilalahmed2123 5 жыл бұрын
Bashing the 5 series ? How much did Mercedes-Benz pay you for this advertisement Quentin ?
@doncorleon9
@doncorleon9 5 жыл бұрын
Thought the same too...
@KarlHamilton
@KarlHamilton 5 жыл бұрын
Mercedes's Mk5 Escort moment.
@Robert_B_445
@Robert_B_445 5 жыл бұрын
Ooooh....I would go that far! Ever heard of the first gen A class? Mind you, even that wasn’t as bad as the utter dog that was the mark V Escort *shudder*
@KarlHamilton
@KarlHamilton 5 жыл бұрын
Haha
@MP-po6fj
@MP-po6fj 3 ай бұрын
They rusted that bad the front top shock coil spring turret cracked.. Were known for the paint spider webs.. Autobody friends garage was swamped with warranty paint repairs new doors tail gate and bonnets
@zfloz9895
@zfloz9895 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know this Guy Quentin, but I wouldn't expect such big b.s. from Tiff. I'm a big fan of Mercedes and I own a clk 320. But this dinamic test is fake, you can see that the driver in clk, continue to turn left after the cars body rotation. And in the wagon the correction of the trajectory is well maintained by the driver. Until now ,I would not belive that big brands are faking this tests, but now I'm sure. Big shame !!!
@zfloz9895
@zfloz9895 5 жыл бұрын
It is , but not as responsive as they show here. In this video it is all about the skills of the driver. Older systems don't react as intrusive as modern ones. For example; an Renault Megane or Laguna from 2003, will apply brakes heavy to reduce the overall speed, but Mercedes and BMW ,just try to keep the trajectory by slowly braking the iner corner wheels,or whatever wheel is program to do so. As such , the scenario with the clk its true on both tries, the difference is made by the driver.
@jetstream454
@jetstream454 5 жыл бұрын
Can SOMEBODY please explain why nobody likes Quentin??
@bmw-e30
@bmw-e30 5 жыл бұрын
Jamie Lange: Quentin sounds a touch snobbish maybe but at least gives an honest opinion.
@BimmerGuyFL
@BimmerGuyFL Жыл бұрын
Well this video didn’t age well. BMW is doing better than the crap Mercedes-Benz has been putting out in the last 7 years.
@kevinbaird7277
@kevinbaird7277 5 жыл бұрын
The three pointed star is now a car for everybody, the luxury bit has diminished a lot, they make too many cars to be exclusive, so the net result is, just like every other brand, when they became a main stream car builder they just let the quality nose dive somewhat, it is a shame but the old 70's cars were far superior to the cars in offer today, I say this because my ex wife has just bought a A class AMG line and she has zero class and skid marks, enough said.
@apierre5712
@apierre5712 3 жыл бұрын
Very truu!!
@xristoslazarakos9250
@xristoslazarakos9250 Жыл бұрын
I have a CLK W 208 she is like new.She has 235.000 km and i will keep her for ever.MERCEDES till 2008 are the best cars in the World.After 2008 ...........Are like any other car.
@jakubhladil5340
@jakubhladil5340 11 ай бұрын
W210 has no competition
@Thanos.m
@Thanos.m 5 жыл бұрын
To be honest out of all them I'd have Jag I think it still looks good today in these e class rust buckets look so out of date today
@williammcmonagle52
@williammcmonagle52 5 жыл бұрын
Better with the old school proper nut and bolt Mercedes W126,hence why I own one as a weekend toy.
@martinsv9183
@martinsv9183 2 жыл бұрын
If you can get around the rust risk you probably wont be disappointed with a facelifted w210 as a daily. Still have the solid interior feel.
@Cheezwizzz
@Cheezwizzz 5 жыл бұрын
I miss Mr Wilson!!
@themassiveprophet4148
@themassiveprophet4148 5 жыл бұрын
Hate comments will be deleted ;) Completely un-problematic car, engines last forever. Still got the e240 from 1998 running smoothly in Portugal, 220.000 miles so far... will have to replace the motor bearings eventually I guess. Running on LPG, cheapest car I ever drove. Pleasure to drive. Oh, I did have to replace the fuel pump last year, and a few sensors before. P.S. Rust is not a problem here.
@amimenamimen8599
@amimenamimen8599 5 жыл бұрын
that is true ! W210 this is last right Mercedes , oldskool , comfortable unproblematic car for long life
@fluseint.1303
@fluseint.1303 Жыл бұрын
10:49 🤣🤣🤣 the build quality of the interior of these generation of Audi’s is just utter rubbish. Even after only 2-3 years of daily use they fell apart.
@ElectricApe
@ElectricApe 5 жыл бұрын
What sellouts! And from back In the day. Ok, Quentin I’d have suspected but Tiff! And agreed , writing off the E39 because of the E36? I used to enjoy top gear/5th gear but they were actually seeing people behind my back.
@alexandreb.1101
@alexandreb.1101 4 жыл бұрын
Tiff at least was informative. They left the blatant jokes about the competition for Willson
@portuguesepetrolhead
@portuguesepetrolhead 5 жыл бұрын
E-Class: cheapest to maintain in the long-term, at least in DRY countries; poor performance A6: best design and perceived build quality, but poor real quality due to low-grade underpinnings 5-Series: best dynamics, killer looks, but long-term unreliable, and therefore costly to maintain Lexus: best long-term overall reliability, but impossibly bland, expensive parts on the long-term S-Type: best piece of... Don't know. Would gladly either go for the BMW or Merc...
@ligmasurvivor997
@ligmasurvivor997 5 жыл бұрын
I'm going to bet you've never driven an E55 AMG..350 HP and 0-60 in high-4 to low 5 sec range
@Nthstar
@Nthstar 5 жыл бұрын
E39 unreliable? 🤔
@ligmasurvivor997
@ligmasurvivor997 5 жыл бұрын
@@Nthstar cooling system components like the end tanks for the radiator and water pump impeller were made of plastic, and would often leak of crack. Also, if you do end up being low on coolant, be careful and never let engine overheat as it I'd easy to warp that aluminum cylinder head. Personally I'm sticking with AMG from now on
@alexandreb.1101
@alexandreb.1101 4 жыл бұрын
W210 the cheapest to run in the long term in dry countries. E39 not too far behind though, at least in Europe. Arguably the E39 was the better car, and the non-M models had an actually classy appearance, not trying to appeal to the boy racer crowd
@mattw8332
@mattw8332 5 жыл бұрын
It's a shame that they didn't include an Alfa Romeo 166 as an alternative.
@phil955i
@phil955i 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry, not even in the same class of luxury.
@Paul-mq5yn
@Paul-mq5yn 5 жыл бұрын
They were going to, but it broke down on the way.
@theojuan834
@theojuan834 4 жыл бұрын
those who want a large luxury and sporty sedan look for all-wheel drive or rear-wheel drive, alfa 166, Volvo s80, saab95, pegeout 607, Lancia K and Thesis all of these are front-wheel drive, they are good cars but they are not a complete package :)
@martf8014
@martf8014 5 жыл бұрын
funny how he got it so wrong about the A6 was by far one of the best cars here. The BMW is the top motor in the lineup but the A6 was a strong second
@martinsv9183
@martinsv9183 2 жыл бұрын
Obviously not. A6 was too problematic. MB by far the most reliable.
@james6609
@james6609 5 жыл бұрын
i see he would not buy the bmw but at least they never fell apart like the merc did they had great bodiy work in them i had one and it was 15 years old when i changed it and the body had no rust on it a merc that age would have been eat alive with rust
@terrificspokesman7416
@terrificspokesman7416 4 жыл бұрын
If you did not know Quintin Wilson was paid to Diss all of these cars
@georgerebreev
@georgerebreev 5 жыл бұрын
I cringed hard asf when he “shat” on the BMW
@ramos18210
@ramos18210 5 жыл бұрын
W212 the best thing ive ever got better than any other car
@MrTangolizard
@MrTangolizard 5 жыл бұрын
yik3s1 I have a w213 it’s a fantastic car
@jetstream454
@jetstream454 5 жыл бұрын
They are nice cars, but their seal work isn't great. Almost as much wind noise as my w202 with buggered door seals, and can now (my friend's 2012 E250cdi) smell the interior perfume from outside.
@phil955i
@phil955i 5 жыл бұрын
W212 & W213 not great looking though are they
@MrTangolizard
@MrTangolizard 5 жыл бұрын
phil955i well that’s subjective I have a w213 AMG spec 220d and think it looks beautiful
@timothythegreat6294
@timothythegreat6294 3 ай бұрын
99 avantgarde E430 obsidian metallic black charcoal interior amg rims dont need nothin else 🪽
@andrewstones2921
@andrewstones2921 5 жыл бұрын
It was great watching this with the benefit of hindsight, something that the reviewer didn't have available at the time. I think QW did a good job of summing up the Merc. His obvious bias towards the three pointed star was based on years of experience and a fair expectation of the legendary quality that Mercedes was know for in the 80's and early 90's to continue into the noughties. Mercedes have, to their credit, tackled the quality issues and are again making great cars. I loved his sarcastic take on BMW owners, but in that respect BMW are a victim of their own success. The reason every boy racer wants a Beemer is because they are the ultimate drivers car. But I agree with QW, and I would not drive a used one in the UK because of the image associated with them, but to be fair that is not the case worldwide, also it does not affect new BMWs in my opinion, nor estate versions. Comparing the Audi and the Lexus GS may be a bit unfair, it's not a like for like comparison and the buyers were very different.
@harisdevedzic3167
@harisdevedzic3167 5 жыл бұрын
If this is a crap, as many comentatora here say, then imaggine the competition 😂 Btw, the car is awsom, yes it had a couple of issues if not taken care of...
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