Royal Enfield Classic 650 Twin versus Classic 650 Single

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Royal Enfield Classic 650 Twin - Good idea or not? In this video I give you my thoughts. Please let me know your thoughts in the comments below. If you have a longer story, or want to send photos use the email
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@WyreForestBiker
@WyreForestBiker 4 сағат бұрын
Perfectly reasonable points Ian , It should be a single really . RE were never going to the expense of developing a new engine though . You may get some negative feedback mind you as having a different opinion to the consensus is not allowed these days ....ask me how I know 😊
@tweedelidee
@tweedelidee 4 сағат бұрын
I agree with Your way to see things. I'll stick with my 350 classic in chrome bronze, and do regret I did not buy the 500 as I was struggling with health problems at the time they were sold . Maybe I'll change my mind when I'll see the 650 for real, I don't know. Greetings from Luxembourg and ride safely.
@alanhesketh9265
@alanhesketh9265 2 сағат бұрын
I agree with you 100%. I used to own a Classic chrome 500cc bullet in maroon, and would love to see a 650cc single version. Just bought a new Scram 411 last week, so far very impressed.
@BlazinBlades
@BlazinBlades 3 сағат бұрын
I like your independent thought and true love of old school motorcycling! I’m only 56 so still have some of that more modern Japanese bike left in me…😂 Last April I bought a used Interceptor 650 which I’m falling in love with more and more with every passing day 😊 The best thing is that it’s probably my wife’s favorite too…❤ Subscribed 🍻🍻
@markhinde6187
@markhinde6187 3 сағат бұрын
I think seeing it in the flesh will be a big moment one way or the other
@deltabluesdavidraye
@deltabluesdavidraye 2 сағат бұрын
The 650 engine looks great
@felixVanDiemen
@felixVanDiemen Сағат бұрын
Interesting points Ian. I pretty much agree with you. I'll definitely be hanging on to my two Classic 500s 🙂
@stevesanelli90
@stevesanelli90 2 сағат бұрын
I see Sue listening over your shoulder making sure you say 'no thanks, I'm extremely happy with what i have'😉 The boss listens through walls...
@philmorrow2446
@philmorrow2446 4 сағат бұрын
I haven't seen too many 9f the pics of this new bike but it appears to be a super meteor with a cosmetic make over. I agree with your opinion. I am not too fussed with it.
@JonnySundance
@JonnySundance 3 сағат бұрын
Thanks Ian and you make some interesting points. RE are faced with the same issues as any of the other volume manufacturers, when they have developed a very good engine platform in the twin 650 and a “parts box” of components, there is a financial incentive to tweak it into various formats to capture as many different markets as possible. In this case they may well fall short when it comes to satisfying as you put it “old school” afficiandos of the Classic model. However, the compromise they have produced is likely to go down well with buyers that have less knowledge/ attachment to the past version of this model. Thanks again for your video.
@benschofield7565
@benschofield7565 2 сағат бұрын
Looks great to me. No doubt it will sell by the bucket load. I wouldn't have thought it would make financial sense to create an entirely new engine when you can simply use a platform you already have and still achieve those sale figures. The proof of the pudding will be in the eating.
@mikehurley5052
@mikehurley5052 4 сағат бұрын
Its a Shotgun with a new paint job basically, only thing classic about it is its massively overweight as all Enfields are.
@MrMomo182
@MrMomo182 3 сағат бұрын
It's a re-badged Super Meteor, agreed. Fair enough and understandable from the business and regulations side. Doubt there's a precedent in the 100 year old catalogue for a parallel twin in a Classic/Bullet? But why not a V-twin 1000cc Bullet? Carbury made a few. Brakes, suspension, everything would need upgrading, but at least I wouldn't feel like a kid when a HD passes me.😂
@Snoopy-cq5jy
@Snoopy-cq5jy 4 сағат бұрын
I upgraded my 2023 classic 350 with a big bore kit and the Kent cam, and it’s much more capable now, almost 1000 km, now so it’s starting to lose up. Much better torque. 410cc kit👍
@VonRyansExpress-v3r
@VonRyansExpress-v3r 3 сағат бұрын
I agree with a lot of what you say and would be first in queue if they made a larger 500 or 650 Bullet . . . I think the market is crying put for that . . . Might require water cooling however which would kill it, as it does the "Gold Star" . . . I'm sad to see so many Super Meteor components on the 650 Classic - it looks like a super Meteor with the headlamp casquette and fork shrouds added which is a missed styling opportunity . . . I also agree with you on the looks of the 650 twin engine - its very bland and ordinary looking - it needs some "sexing up' . . . The old Reddich Twin engines were just magnificent to look at . . . In fact a look back at the old British RE bikes would be what I would recommend to the factory - many of them were just beautifully styled - you have a tremendous heritage to call upon - shapely front mudguards for example, the one on the new Classic 650 is very clumsy and unattractive
@elwood62
@elwood62 4 сағат бұрын
I don’t think they should have bothered with a Classic 650. Too similar to other models.
@Sr.D
@Sr.D 3 сағат бұрын
I'm just waiting for a little bump in displacement on the Classic 350, something like 25-30 horsepower and 6 gears, just enough to cruise comfortably at 120 kph without revving the engine too much.
@ozhimalayan477cc2
@ozhimalayan477cc2 9 минут бұрын
The balancer you suggest for the 650 single robs the engine of power as well as reducing the vibration. Personally I am grateful that you do not have any input into RE,s designs😂
@borderlands6606
@borderlands6606 2 сағат бұрын
I don't think they'll get an air-cooled 500 single past emissions, never mind a 650. Even the 350 is choked, lovely bike that it is. When the Shotgun came out it was clear the 650 Classic would be a heritage styled version of it. It's a personal thing, but the short stroke twin isn't a very attractive looking unit.
@donovandale7077
@donovandale7077 4 сағат бұрын
Being new to bikes, my first experience is the j platform 350 and the 411 himalayan. So I lack the nostalgia for the older singles. I am interested in the 650 twin for the occasional two up freeway use here in the US. I really like the styling of my classic 350 but I have been seriously considering the super meteor. I am not a fan of the forward controls, since I have a lot of rough road where I like to take a load off with the mid controls. The 650 seems to be the best compromise of a bit more power, and the styling I like. If the classic were in a 650 single, I would easily be swayed to your point of view.
@deltabluesdavidraye
@deltabluesdavidraye 2 сағат бұрын
The Interceptor is a better bike in some ways.First it has a true twin down tube frame.Much stronger for rough use than the stressed member. Brakes and suspension can be upgraded.They make a great scrambler.Tough frame and right in the middle to modify
@maskedavenger2578
@maskedavenger2578 Сағат бұрын
The new classic needs to be a long stroke oil cooled 500cc single bucket plodder . No place for 650 cc twin lumps , or such things as rider modes , blipper , slipper or fly by wire throttle tat on classic RE .
@WallyTopper
@WallyTopper Сағат бұрын
Not a huge fan either, I’d of preferred they redone the classic 500 range
@longtalljay
@longtalljay 3 сағат бұрын
Knowing RE, this won't be for Indian roads either, just as the SM650 and Shotgun650 aren't. RE refuses to improve anything (especially for India)--so the chassis and hard suspension will be retained from those two.
@Shady689
@Shady689 17 минут бұрын
Why can't they make modern 500 like j series?
@hiddenmortimer5189
@hiddenmortimer5189 4 сағат бұрын
Maybe they could have bore the 350 to a 500 and put better cams. The 350 seems overbuilt for what it is. I think they could have bore it out easily
@deltabluesdavidraye
@deltabluesdavidraye 2 сағат бұрын
There is a plug and play 500 overbore kit
@richardjones3112
@richardjones3112 4 сағат бұрын
Agree,it should have been a 650cc single.They could have made a scrambler version as well.
@shakespearetiger800XR
@shakespearetiger800XR 45 минут бұрын
OMG YOU DONT LIKE THE 500. DONT CARE!
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