The Modest House Build Ep 3: Foundation Brackets

[@PerkinsBuilderBrothers]

Hey Greg… Great idea on Perkins the whole thing 😂

[@NotTelling51]

He could post one of a house build once a day and I'd watch every single one

[@TheStevedie]

Me too. Lol. I would love to have one of his builds as well.

[@wesheriveaux9325]

Same here

[@CousinDouglas]

I will always appreciate when people take a few extra minutes to be more precise with layouts, leveling, squaring etc.

[@joedoe6444]

once upon a time as a flooring installer i was working in a fairly high-end house (new still under construction) installing carpet. the owner had picked out a cpt that had a very visible pattern in it, as i laid out the living room it was a 20 x 40 area. it was planned to go in with 3 seams going across the 20 ft direction. as i laid it out i lined it up with the first end wall and put the other pieces in place based off that first one. i checked the other end and it was straight with the first wall, then i checked the longest wall going down the room and the pattern was good with it. the wall on the other side was split in two with a door going into a hallway and a jog in the wall so i didn't bother to check it. i then seamed my pieces together and took a lunch break, as i came back in the owner was there and he asked me if i was going to square the cpt pattern up with the walls. i told yes i would, if it is out now it is just from being moved around during seaming. we went back in and started to check the cpt for square and it was still in place. me and my coworker started wondering what he was so concerned about and then we noticed half of the 4th wall was not following the pattern on one half when we were getting ready to trim off the excess. we put a tape on it and one half of the wall was out of square by 10 inches in a 15 ft run. i went and found the builder and grabbed my square and told him we had a major problem. i put the square in the corner and no one could believe how far out the wall was in just the 2 feet. the contractor then went into the master bedroom that was on the other side of the room and found it was also out. he then had to go find the owner and bring him in and show him the problem. he was not very happy. the only way to make it right was to tear down a major part of the house to fix it including the foundation. that is where the problem started, and all the other workers had just delt with it and never said anything to the builder. i was told to go ahead and put the cpt in and they were going to go "discus" a financial adjustment for the cost of the house. and to make the owners and builders headaches even worse, about an hour latter a plumber walked across the cpt with 2 inches of mud on his boots. i seen this when i came out of a side room and followed it to the crawl space the plumber had gone down, i started chewing him out and calling him all kinds of dumbass names when i heard the owner blow up as he seen the mess. i told spoke up and he came in and had very sever words with the plumber and ran him off the job-site. fun times for all....

[@Hopalong..75]

I started working with my grandfather and he was a great carpenter. Electrician, plumber, cabinet maker, and mason. We built the entire house. The were modest homes but well built. He was getting older and I went into the army and when I got out he was al but retired mostly just doing cabinets. I went to work on the Railroad and gave up building. I am 76 and I still miss working with him. Your commitment to quality work and preicision reminds me of his skill. I really enjoy watching you and Greg building together.

[@codydonovan7356]

I'm very excited for this build series! Ever since I subscribed to this channel over 5 years ago I've wanted to build a Post Frame!

[@RRBuildings]

Awesome

[@slakr7555]

Kyle, I love the attention to detail, no matter how minuscule it may seem, that you put into your work. I’m up in Roscoe and am getting serious about getting into a barndo and I look forward to seeing this project completed because it sounds like exactly what I want. It would be an honor to have a home built by you and your team.

[@mikelinkyonkers]

3:38, going at the perkins bro's? I love it!! typical construction ball busting. LOLOLOL Shots fired!!!!!! Cause there is a clear difference between your crew and there's.

[@ljracer711]

I’m glad I’m not the only one that caught that. Same. I follow Perkins for the entertainment. I follow Kyle & Greg for the expertise….AND entertainment..

[@PerkinsBuilderBrothers]

I say go for it 😂

[@garysizemore3729]

Thank you I’ve been wondering about the corner columns for a long time! Thank you for the new series.

[@serbiedog840]

Perhaps the BEST explanation of how the laser works. Thank You, Kyle!

[@markbrown2296]

I'm really excited about this build!

[@BensFirewood]

There's something satisfying about watching the precision you employ during the layout phase.... and all other phases as well!

[@jamesandayladodge4815]

It seams like if you have confirmed the foundation is within a tiny margin of square then you would just snap lines and build to the foundation. I do a lot of ICF foundations for my builds and the siding usually continues through to foundation, so we end up building to walls flush to the foundation. Pretty easy to bury a half inch discrepancy in the trusses on a long enough span.

[@matteberry58]

The house portion of this will be my dream home. The shop/garage is bigger than I need. I'm really looking forward to this series.

[@freddien7]

Another great video, lots of info to help builders Good job guys.

[@AlAmantea]

Kyle, I do agree with the reasoning for cutting the brackets in half and using the split in the corners. One thing I find concerning is the weight bearing on the post when you do that. If the post is 4 1/2", and the bracket is cut in half, that only leaves 2 1/4" to 2 1/2" of solid bearing for the post to sit on, which means that post can only support half the weight the other posts with full brackets can. If it were me, and I wanted that plate under the post (which I certainly would), the best way would be to cut the bracket at the second upright instead of in the center. This gives you full weight bearing under the column post, fully protects the post from the concrete, so you have the best of both worlds. It would cost a bit more to have a bracket for every corner, but it also would not compromise the integrity of the build. Over time, as the weight bears on that post, having it only half supported (especially on a laminated post), it will crush from the weight until the unsupported half is sitting on the concrete, defeating the purpose of doing it that way, and knocking things out of level in the corners eventually.

[@daveklein2826]

ANOTHER recliner professional speaks😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@cdubs1723]

You’re thinking the weight will shear the 30-40+ nails in that column? Let’s say that catastrophe happens, it’ll drop 1/4”. Big deal

[@Dew411]

Love watching you guys this particular house is exactly what I would like to build. I will be ready to build in about two years Southwest Missouri you guys have to come down this way.

[@MrMurph111]

Can't wait for this series!!! Perfect home I'm looking to build!

[@eliinthewolverinestate6729]

I use piers because frost depths and 70 psf snow loads for my round post for timber frames. So I don't have to cut ties in half. Great video.

[@CydLeonard]

Greg just does his job. Your doing it right Greg.

[@clintburris5520]

Was thinking the same. You know he’s handy af but dude just fills in so well; probably without really having to be told what to do.

[@joshastley6744]

Always watching you best in the game I’m from the uk and so interested in all the different regulations around the world and how others do things keep up the work

[@user990077]

I use a battery powered air compressor and an air blast nozzle that I stick down the hole to clean it out before inserting my Tapcon. Eye protection and keep you head back to avoid the ejecting dust from the air blast.

[@jamesfischer5389]

QUALITY SELLS ITSELF ALL DAY LONG!!! ☮️💜🇺🇸

[@mikeinmaryland]

Consider purchasing a 4”dia. 5/8” threaded Diamond Cup Wheel. It makes grinding the rough spots really flat. Using a blade, you’re always grinding at a slight angle. Off to a good start!

[@6by6by6]

Yet it took 30 seconds to do the job😅 and he’s ready to cut without changing out a wheel for blade..

[@mikeinmaryland]

Like Gary Katz says about routers. If you need to change the bit, you need another router. Angle grinders are even cheaper.

[@markschmitz4959]

When does ground rough plumbing go in? In think viewers would like to see some of the mechanical underground work. Great job as always

[@daveklein2826]

It will happen when it happens

[@RolloFy]

Love the builds. Always interesting to see the dimensions in the US compared to Europe. A building of this size could house two families and a single person in three apartments in Europe

[@RunsOnRust]

In addition if you knew how many acres of some of the very best farm land in the world has been consumed by structures. Country in decline.

[@ryankelly5303]

Awesome video

[@nonameHEF]

Kind regards from germany. I love your Videos.

[@johndernberger1961]

Excited about this build!!!

[@vesper1140]

Thanks Kyle! Love the math and layout stuff being included it helps me understand what I need to do when I try things so it's not as overwhelming. I've been looking forward to another home build, is this one going to be using the same materials like Rockwool and Majrex?

[@jessegraham21]

bust out your Topcon LN-150 to check all this! fix it in CAD or Sketchup!! so fun watching your series. thanks for the awesome content!

[@roderickmarruffo7600]

Can't wait to see how it get's laid out...

[@briannikolai7294]

Enjoy watching ALL your videos'..... Are you going to show a cost breakdown ?

[@lettersandlove]

It’s going to be an other great series!

[@danstutzke3387]

That drill is slick

[@Box545x39]

That 80v Makita Demo saw is a beast for being battery powered.

[@jbweld138]

Great job!!

[@xblindfolded]

The plans purchase, while steep is justifiable, could use an overall floorplan layout view prior to purchase as well as square foot totals. I can't see myself purchasing plans without a draft view of the layout. Yes, each set of plans can probably be customized to their own liking, but it would be nice to see what you're doing here as a floor plan.

[@RRBuildings]

Agree makes sense. They are more or less there for people to understand the design and how it all goes together vs the actual design that is there. I get it tho I could spend some time making some changes

[@kenknight4560]

Hope there will be a general cost to build figure to compare to a regular house cost to build price. Interesting project and great work. However, does look like you need a better cement contractor...or better supervision of same. Ha

[@9856CB]

When you put that tapered screw into the post, put it in at a slight upward angle and it will drive the post down, which should obviously can’t and you won’t be off any bit. Sometimes too perfect is too perfect.. but I absolutely love your videos👍👍👍

[@steveneal2706]

Great video guys. thank you

[@wendymangas5973]

Is it common practice to fill all that space with stone, could use the dirt that was removed to pour the concrete? John

[@BuckMasterNorm]

Thanks going to look great

[@dansklenicka8403]

This is he perfect size home and garage..

[@MrSsrt33]

this is what i want to build when i retire/ move from il lol. maybe a bit bigger on the shop side though. my shop is currently 36x42.

[@therealdojj]

Greg standing directly in the line of fire is the most Greg thing I've seen so far today 🤣

[@RRBuildings]

he literally knew exactly what I was doing...not sure why he stood there anyways...show the horse water, but can't make him drink it

[@mikem1436]

Greg looking to get a little dirty, so it looks like he was at work and not at the bar all day.

[@DanWittas]

The cut in half brackets you use should be filet welded on both side of the tee. Before cutting them there is a filet on opposite sides which is good. The tee with a filet on one side is much weaker.

[@MariusKjær]

Excellent videos! I enjoy them! What boots are you wearing?

[@patrickgleason5143]

Really enjoy your channel just as a home owner. I was wondering why no basement? Reducing the cost?

[@johnkayak10]

I live up river south of Rockford on the Kishwaukee river. That fog was thick a few days.

[@rickfetz469]

Do you shim under the corner columns for better bearing?

[@Wheel_Horse]

Yep, good to have at least as much square footage in the garage/shop as in the living quarters of the house! My shop/garages are 2400 sq ft, the home is 1900 sq ft! Perfect...

[@pitt42075]

Modest would be the word

[@wdbrnr63]

I was curious, it looks like Midwest Perma-Column calls for Simpson SDS screws for shear in their brackets. It probably doesn't matter on 10' walls, but I don't know if the Tapcons carry the same shear.

[@Dutchsteamer251]

Jimmy diresta will be proud to see you using one of his pencils

[@diesel_inthemorning_2315]

Nice!!!

[@ericgabel698]

Nice Safety Squints there cutting concrete.

[@daveklein2826]

They were perfect

[@bengesell]

Thanks!

[@Jacobs-mt2us]

Is it possible to use floor joists with post frame construction instead of slab?

[@jchhwkn2886]

Hi from Missouri.. first off I really enjoy how you explain things. I’m on episode 1 today. I building a barndominium here shortly the dirt work has started. I’m interested in the Math class today I’m trying to figure out what “the marking out your BOXES “ formula can send me in the right direction to be able to figure your boxes.

[@jchhwkn2886]

Btw the timing of this series is the best timing for me. Thank you

[@tylercousins7779]

Looks like you need a bell grinder for flattening the concrete.

[@toddswenson]

My big takeaway from this episode:"yeah folks don't worry, it's okay". Priceless!

[@phillipjondreau4722]

Maybe it’s insignificant but when you cut the bracket in half isn’t only half of the base of the column bearing all the weight since the other half is floating?

[@cusecrew7106]

Any idea when the plans will be up on the site?

[@CJ-ok7rk]

Compact and bijou is a term I would use.

[@jeffdeluca1153]

Excellent work, as usual. Please tell me how to keep from twisting off the tapcons. Thx Kyle Jeff

[@ryanv7578]

Make sure you use new bits. They shrink over time

[@RRBuildings]

the vac is key

[@ryanv7578]

@@RRBuildings for sure, but my hilti drill doesn’t have a vac.

[@alwayssharp]

Been thinking about a grinder with a vacuum. I use them almost daily and the silica is bad. Any recommendations for a cordless grinder vac?

[@floodx4947]

I think we have different ideas on what 'modest' is. I have what I believe is a 'modest' house, and a 'modest' shop ... and you could fit them both inside the garage of this home. :-)

[@joshryan2478]

Hudson sprayer keep the dust down it’s a killer

[@superdplum]

What brand Truss boom do you have for your Skidloader?

[@davidwfisher]

I’ve been following your channel for quite a few years and just recently noticed I wasn’t subscribed but now I am. I’ve been planning a Brando and I’m curious, do you have a cost breakdown of your builds? It would be helpful to understand if quotes are close to accurate. For instance the insulation cost on the barndominium you built 2 years ago with the 3-4 inches of closed cell foam. Based on the numbers I’m finding on line it would be close to 100k just for the spray foam. I may be mistaken but it would definitely help to see your cost breakdown.

[@Rob-r2s]

Question? What's the difference between using a concrete foundation like you have hear in this video verses an ICF foundation?

[@daveklein2826]

Google it

[@rotaxrider]

​@@daveklein2826 DaveKlein to the rescue 😂

[@JustinMoritz]

Awesome thanks!

[@jeffrivera8973]

Please wear your ppe when cutting/grinding concrete- that dust is killer for your lungs. Love your content and knowledge!

[@DanielSmith-sd1up]

That is the perfect size. Would love to know the final build cost on this.

[@Kosta_TheWoodGuy]

Any chance the owners will let you share costs, I know they are very specific to area. But would be nice to get an updated costs video like you did a few years ago.

[@daveklein2826]

None of your business

[@dukeofdraper]

Is there a reason that you use traditional foundation and then insulate the outside rather than use an ICF foundation system? What are the pro's and cons of both systems?

[@se7enity648]

How often do you need to calibrate the laser? and when do you know it needs recalibrating?

[@Rob-r2s]

Question: Why don't you use ICF blocks?

[@rotaxrider]

Because it's cheaper? No need for expensive products. Roof trusses at 24" with no extra labour with purlins and all the Xtra framing underneath for ceiling finish. Girts everywhere. That's a lot of extra labor and materials and it adds up fast . Wall insulation and vapor/moisture barriers and some of the most expensive tapes money can buy. When your business is post frame you'll never admit that there's a better economical way.

[@Rob-r2s]

@rotaxrider I'm talking about just the foundation not the post frame structure on top.

[@comingtofull-ageinchrist6736]

Don't you custom cut your post anyway Kyle 23:48; maybe that isn't the case with the stem wall but I'm thinking it won't be perfect either. I just say that because of what you said about the bracket you cut for the corner and the manufacturer who makes the corner brackets, the way they make them, the post would sit on concrete, and you were talking about consistency, but I can see the point about keeping the corner post off the concrete to protect it against moisture!

[@rs2024-s4u]

Lasers do lie, and similar to werewolves, laser lying occurs on a full moon after sunset! So I advise RR Buildings to not use their laser at night on full moons. Ray

[@snomofilms]

That concrete crew owes you guys a case of beer

[@danielgrosmaire6175]

Amazing work. So interesting and captivating, can’t wait for what's coming next! I have a question though. When I was doing design during my engineering (not in building industry) we were told to use the ”most common” reference line to minimise errors to move across the design and amplify. I mean, in your case here, that would be the wall in common between the house and the garage... Why starting from the front wall of the house and aligning first the further away from other walls? I'm not sure I understand the logic. If you use the centre line as an initial reference, wouldn't this lead to a lower "offset" at the extremities (corners)?

[@rotaxrider]

He's not an engineer but he pretends to be one that's why

[@RRBuildings]

Because there is more than one way to skin a cat. You could start anywhere and end up with similar results. I try to make sure my overhang and offsets are as perfect as possible where most visible

[@danielgrosmaire6175]

Thank you for your explanation, makes sense. There is more than one way to skin a cat or build a house, but since you present a process that is much simpler and efficient, you set the bar so high 😊🤷👌we, at least I, kinda expect the very best advice in your details! 😉🤞🙏🤣 I didn't expect an answer, much appreciated! Looking forward for the next releases. Thank you so much for your hard work so we can benefit from it! 🙏👏

[@akhomer]

What drove the decision to go with a continuous concrete foundation, rather than your typical cylindrical pier type foundation? If you're going to poor a slab anyway, what difference does it make?

[@RRBuildings]

we always do a foundation for homes

[@horstszibulski19]

When the garage is as big as the house...my thought also... 🤔😉

[@joebaker6690]

Great start guys... how many holes until the vac is full Kyle? You have to empty a ton of times?

[@RRBuildings]

i could have done the whole job without emptying

[@se7enity648]

Will the brackets, over time, rust if they are directly sitting on the concrete?

[@daveklein2826]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@JoCursWorld]

My plans are to build a 1 bedroom master suite with a multiple car garage barndo.

[@allenwernert]

Silicosis is real, protect yourself. 😉 Great channel.

[@undonesofficial]

Did you account for sheathing thickness too? If you're sheathing the building you'll have to inset your walls another 7/16", no?

[@RRBuildings]

Nope. We don’t have to

[@undonesofficial]

@RRBuildings ok, I think I know what you're going to do, but I'll wait and see! I'm excited to see you do this build, this is what I want to get into more.

[@rotaxrider]

Stay tuned this will be an advertisement series for Halo products for sure.

[@Orpedcrow]

I’m also curious why there isnt a capillary break between the post bracket and concrete?

[@daveklein2826]

Obviously not necessary

[@Orpedcrow]

@ no sir not obvious to me. I’m a mechanic. I’ve only ever built one house and a few porches. Everything I’ve seen says there should be a break between concrete and anything attached to it.

[@rotaxrider]

Bigfrog Kyle said he might use ICF to build his new house. Let that sink in 🤔

[@Steven-v6l]

around here that gravel fill would cost more than the rest of the house ...

[@mcchupka9718]

I mentioned that in the last video when they were filling the foundation with about 2’ of it all around. I was guessing it was something like 25+ truckloads. A Conservative estimate would be 250 tons??? $20k-$25k???

[@mbbmidwest3556]

I think he mentioned in a comment it was around $5k in gravel...we're around $12/ton in our area before delivery..

[@mikem1436]

@@mcchupka9718 In my area, on a large delivery it would come in 20 ton trucks. The initial shot looks like 20 loads and 10 more were needed. That 30 loads at 20 ton is 600 tons. In my area, that type of gravel is $60/ton which is $36,000 for 600 tons. Granted there may be a discount for that much and for a builder. No way that $5000.

[@Spirch]

i know metal and cement contact doesnt matter like wood but why no foam between?

[@sintoxic]

Please please please, put safety glasses on when you cut off a piece of concrete with a giant rotating saw :D

[@6by6by6]

Ok mom… 🤦🏻‍♂️

[@daveklein2826]

ANOTHER SAFETY Sally has arrived

[@gdsstudio974]

How about putting sill gasket under the Perma Column Brackets?

[@daveklein2826]

Obviously not necessary

[@garywebster8423]

Kyle, you may have mentioned this already, but will this home have a storm shelter in it? Thanks

[@daveklein2826]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@alexbravo4572]

I see Kyle is wearing his anti-Greg theft pencil tether. 😆

[@landonkintner3750]

How do you like the Perkins builder belt?

[@kevinfoster010]

How wide are the stem walls?

[@danstutzke3387]

Always use the longest square corner and parallel everything of that.

[@mikem1436]

Also, two 90* corners does not make always make a rectangle.