LG G1 vs LG C1 (2021) - Is the New EVO Panel Worth It?

[@RTINGSdotcom]

Hey everyone! Just wanted to thank John B for pointing this out, but the G1 is NOT supposed to come with covers for the back panel. If you want covers for the back panel, they come with the stand you can buy seperately.

[@BatTech]

Right, so you have to spend even more money on an overpriced product.

[@coolcras7]

@@BatTech You are complaining about not having a stand for a product that is meant to be hung on the wall and comes with a wall mount that most TV doesn't typically come with.

[@BatTech]

@@coolcras7 If it is only meant to be hung on the wall - then why support any type of stand? its a money grab as they know some people will buy it for the supposedly benefits of it being a higher-premium model they sell.

[@johnb4905]

@@BatTech Do you have an inferiority complex with the TV you own? Happy Friday!

[@rajeev23x]

💁🏻‍♂️My parents love to watch Sports, Tv serials and sometimes movies. I would like to buy for them 65" inch Tv which care Eyes. I have found the following TVs but confused🤷🏻‍♂️ 1. Samsung "Q90T/QN90A" 2. LG "C1/G1" 3. Sony "X90J/A90J" 🙏 Guide me which one is best or any other options available to care their Eyes❓

[@luxorcephrenSE23]

I was adamant that I wanted the G1 until I watched this video. I would spend most the time gaming, so the fact that the HDR on the G1 dropped to that of the C1 means I would literally get no benefit, especially as the TV will be connected to an amp, meaning the sound benefit doesn't apply in my instance. Thanks RTING, you have saved me some money!

[@manuelhermann7049]

I am at the same situation and I wanted the LG G1 as well 😅 but after this video I think I'll buy the LG C1 now and save some money 😁

[@SanchezS1998]

The only advantage the G1 has in that scenario is the five-year warranty (if you’re concerned about longevity), but if that is a point of contention, you could just buy the C1 at Best Buy with Geek Squad Protection, and GSP is better in comparison to the manufacturer warranty and less expensive when comparing equal-sized C1 and G1 models.

[@lgzz4885]

😆Wow be4 I even got into the video you answered exactly what I was searching for! 75% gaming (if not higher) 15% YT & 10% movies/tv is my set schedule! I care only about the gaming features for this new pick up! I have a pretty good Sony 65” full array from a couple years back that gets bright & honestly looks great! But 65” is tad big for gaming MP IMO. So I guess the 48” C1 is gunna be it! I have a wall spot ready to go next to the 65” hyyyypped! (Hol up.. Unless I should wait till 2022 43” C2 🧐but will it be better?! ahhh fuuuuudge…🤦‍♂️)

[@luxorcephrenSE23]

@@lgzz4885 you could forever wait for the next upgraded model so put that out of your head! Black Friday is upon us... It's time to strike!!

[@tonyjuarez6296]

What do you mean when u said the HDR on G1 dropped ?

[@rachmadsuhartono]

This new room has some acoustic reverberations

[@medic2025]

The G1 has ATSC 3.0 and the C1 doesn't. I wish you guys would at least state that feature.

[@lukasrlleattermann7043]

what is that feature mate?? what does it do?

[@Moodlarii]

FINALLYYYYY!! THAAAAAAAANKS A LOTTTT I WAS WAITING FOR THIS COMPARISON OVER LIKE 6 MONTHS!!! IM GETTING THE 77” THANKS RTINGS AGAIN. ♥️

[@UziGameGP]

BUUUUT G1 OOOOR C1 HUUUH!?

[@fepethepenguin8287]

@@UziGameGP 😆

[@blacklyfe5543]

C1

[@trumpameri1638]

@@UziGameGP 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💪💪💪💪

[@0_1_2]

You’re showing the G1 wall mount installed upside down… 🤦‍♂️

[@e4superfly]

haha thought I was the only 1 that noticed

[@RTINGSdotcom]

We just wanted to show the mount and how it looks, so we added the caption at that section, but next time we will be more clear and show it properly!

[@ImHavingaCoronary]

I love the knock test. Definitely does something.

[@christianchata4039]

@Grote SlurfHe was making sure the pixels are home.

[@pcenthusiastbd894]

@Grote Slurf lol

[@jhh2j]

I do this in BestBuy when looking at TV's. Haha. Build quality is definitely an item on my list which is why I never buy a Samsung. Thumbs up for incorporating this test!

[@jlehm]

They put their other hand on the C1 when knocking though. This damps the sound and makes it sound deeper and more sturdy.

[@lucasornelas6113]

It’s why it passed the test why it’s better 😅

[@ikjadoon]

I think it’s hard to recommend unless on sale to be closer to the C1 MSRP.

[@davidfelter417]

Right now the C1 is $1.6k and the G1 is $1.8k. Should we go for the G1?

[@Kurtonebay]

The G1 has the ATSC 3.0 tuner, the C1 soes not. Also the G1 comes with a 5 year warrenty, the C1 only 1 year.

[@someone-wi4xl]

5 years warranty ? wasn't that optional for those who want to pay more ?

[@Kurtonebay]

Not any more, they made it standard for everybody.

[@Evolve816]

If you buy the C1 from Costco you get 5 years, and if you know Costco they take anything back

[@rixodream5028]

Something to consider when looking between these two. The panel on the G1 is covered by warranty for 5 years out of the box and the C1 is 1 year.

[@RTINGSdotcom]

That's a good point, thanks for bringing it up!

[@jblaze600]

I’m still impressed how thin these LG’s are.

[@DoodleDoo]

who cares, it's not like we're having a thinness contest.

[@ryans413]

@@DoodleDoo It just looks good I think what he’s getting at plus it’s much lighter the more thin it is.

[@blacklyfe5543]

@@DoodleDoo I care watch your mouth

[@DoodleDoo]

@@blacklyfe5543 of course you care because you love standing on the side of your tv measuring the thickness instead of actually watching the tv.

[@blacklyfe5543]

@@DoodleDoo you don't know what I like to do with my TV unlike you I don't care about tribal things.

[@IbraIF17]

Perfect video. Every review or comparison video should be like this

[@RTINGSdotcom]

Thanks for the kind words and for watching!

[@DARK-KNIGHT-88]

Just got my 55 inch C1 and it’s a beast for my PS5

[@jirace]

I think the gimmick of the slim screen is wasted on the fact that it has a thick section below. I would rather just have the G1's uniform thickness, but I don't think I can justify the extra price. I have a Samsung 1.3'' uniformly thick 50'' plasma that is 10 years old, and I am considering the C1 at 65'' because I am getting banding at the top, and it is time for a 4k TV, but I also like the uniform back of the G1 and ability to wall mount it in the future.

[@ESMorg]

U can wall mount the c1 too lol

[@BTheInstaller]

Good job 👏👍.. I like the new look.

[@Lakshyakapila]

I love yr channel....keep up good work... 😎

[@trumpameri1638]

Mighty B installer 🏆🏆👍👍💪💪💪

[@Mr_Smackle]

it's so weird that the more expensive high-end model has such a cheap-looking stand compared to the C1, I get that you're supposed to mount it but shouldn't that be up to the consumer?

[@tywanjames4427]

Guess you didn't pay attention. The G1 doesn't come with a stand. They used a stand they had laying around.

[@Mr_Smackle]

@@tywanjames4427 guess you didnt pay attention, its the stand from the GX ie last years model, the stand is designed for that model of tv.

[@thewitchdoctorofficial]

We bought a C1 55 and love it so much, we then bought a second, a 65 inch. The G1 is an awesome set but so is the C1, both astonishingly good, I don't think you can go wrong with either set.

[@AnjewTate]

Can you see a noticeable difference? I’ll be buying one or the other for PC gaming and photo/video editing.

[@thewitchdoctorofficial]

@@AnjewTate To be honest having seen both, the C1 and G1 are so close, it's down to personal preference. The G1 gallery model is designed to be flush against the wall. Personally we wanted to save money and were not wall mounting. The C1 is a great tv, the difference is very slight. I have heard rumours the later C1's have the Evo panel. For gaming you can't go wrong with either set.

[@AnjewTate]

@@thewitchdoctorofficial Appreciated. If the G1 came with a stand I’d go for it. I just don’t see the justification in the price difference for the partial increase in quality. I went with the C1. Have a good one.

[@Innerpeace33-333]

In my opinion the most perfect TV screen I ever got to buy, I bought the c1 yesterday after I had the Samsung q80R, the oled is another level of image display at the most spectacular level I have ever watched, real colors with picture sharpness never seen before along with perfect blacks, An out-of-this-world screen

[@thewitchdoctorofficial]

@@Innerpeace33-333 Congratulations, an awesome set. Have a great Easter :)

[@raviahuja1586]

Exactly what I was looking for. Keep up the amazing work. Liked and subscribed!

[@johnb4905]

The back panel covers come with the stand feet for the G1.

[@RTINGSdotcom]

You're absolutely right! Thanks for catching that.

[@RyanConklin1]

The G1 comes with a five-year manufacturer warranty for burn-in which makes it better if you're going to use it for a PC monitor or gaming they don't offer that with the C1 right.

[@armandopacheco-soto3592]

Only you'd have to wall mount it, the g1 doesn't come with a stand as the g is for "gallery" and also doesn't get as small as the c1. The c1 has a 48 inch size and comes with a stand while the g1's smallest size is 55 and again has to be wall mounted.

[@ericforsyth]

@@armandopacheco-soto3592: I'd never not wall mount a TV. Let alone one that is so uniformly thin and comes with a mount that makes it completely flush with the wall as the G1. It's design is the biggest difference, putting it on a stand makes that difference less tangible.

[@robosergTV]

Only US and UK. Unclear about EU and rest of the world

[@xidaq4998]

Or Costco has a 5 year warranty too usa

[@tywanjames4427]

@@armandopacheco-soto3592 it doesn't have to be wall mounted fool. You just have to buy your own stand for it

[@coltonroark]

I have a 65 inch Samsung Q70A QLED in my living room and just ordered the 55 inch LG G1 for my gaming room on the Series X. Can't wait!!

[@frankcouper9377]

No mention of the 5 year screen warranty on the G1?

[@RTINGSdotcom]

We haven't seen anything about the warranty that gives us the impression that it covers burn-in. The statements LG put out when asked about it were vague and didn't explicitly state that burn-in was covered.

[@frankcouper9377]

@@RTINGSdotcom LG has confirmed that "screen defects" are covered as long as the G1 is not used for commercial or professional use. If reasonable usage is observed, I believe G1 customers would have a strong case for a claim. I purchased a 65" G1 this morning.

[@RTINGSdotcom]

Hey guys! So we looked back into this after your comments and it looks like you're right. When we read the initial reports, the vague language gave us and others reason to believe that burn-in would not be covered, but it looks like they've since clarified that it is covered in normal/non-commercial use: www.theverge.com/2021/6/14/22532894/lg-5-year-warranty-g1-oled-z1-4k-8k-usa-panel-failure-burn-in

[@nickkamaka8877]

@@RTINGSdotcom C1 is also covered- I screenshot a conversation I had over IM with LG support where they confirmed Burn in is covered under the C1 manufacturer warranty (though the C1's is only 1 year, not 5 I think though I could be wrong on that).

[@ryans413]

@@RTINGSdotcom I can confirm at least the store I got mine sales guy said 3 or 5 year warranty covers the entire tv no mater what happens except water damage or if you break the tv by dropping it. But anything the tv dose on its own like burn in the guy said your tv will get replaced with a new set cause they can’t fix burn in. So yes warranty covers burn in

[@jennifergala]

We need the new burn in video testing. It will be great to see a PC with taskbar or editing a video in Premiere like normal PC use if it gives burn in. Also watching normal tv will be a great test too.

[@RTINGSdotcom]

This is something we're actively discussing internally! If we do another burn-in test, we want to expand the scope beyond our previous test, so we appreciate the suggestions! We will pass it along to the rest of the team :)

[@johnb4905]

Just don't buy an OLED for PC use.

[@BiswaRanjanNanda]

at 4:57, it looks like NIkon picture vs Canon picture, one is light and other one is dark. :P

[@Jeffcatbuckeye]

I have both of them in my house. They are both excellent, but you really can’t distinguish a significant difference between them.

[@Mububban23]

which one did you buy first?

[@Jeffcatbuckeye]

@@Mububban23 I bought them both the same day.

[@chinnobi]

Thank you for creating these videos they are very informative. Can you also do a comparison of the comparable short throw projectors vs Lg c1/g1?

[@RTINGSdotcom]

Hey Ben! Unfortunately, we don't test projectors, but we will definitely pass along your suggestion for the team to consider!

[@Constantinekondylopoulos]

Great video !! Thank you! Got the LG 77in C1 and love it! I Wish I had done more research bc I prefer flush mount of G1!

[@Rhino1931]

Bought a G1 today; it stopped working an hour after plugging it in.

[@santeenl]

rekt x)

[@Tramper6840]

Got a G1 also last week, it broke after 5 hours though. And the retailer won't give me a new one! :@

[@Rhino1931]

@@Tramper6840 oh shit, I was at least able to go back and got a C1 instead (been working fine) I would’ve lost my fucking mind if they didn’t hook me up. Where’d you buy it from?

[@DARK-KNIGHT-88]

Did you get warranty? I got the 2 year from Best Buy

[@Rhino1931]

@@DARK-KNIGHT-88 thankfully Best Buy has a 14 day return policy regardless of warranty. I took it back and got a C1 instead. Been working fine since I got it!

[@fluentinsilence]

I am looking to replace my current LG 55" 4K OLED and this video was helpful; I don't see the merit in the cost of the G1 over the C1 unless you're looking to get every granular specification squeezed out of it.

[@NIPSZ]

Why does the C1 look so much thinner in the side by side design pictures? Also, you should elaborate on the aesthetic differences of the G1 instead of mostly focusing on the screen.

[@tywanjames4427]

Because the G1 is flat on the back while the C1 is thin up top, where it's just the screen, and thicker at the bottom where the electronics are.

[@user-it6bx9tt5h]

i dont get the fascination with wall mounting really flush... like how are u supposed to plug anything back there...

[@kricku]

Looked like the mount swivels out

[@mattx4253]

Still rocking the E7 65. Still looks amazing

[@sc0tty319]

evo panel inherit problems: 1. just like the previous panel, it has wobbles on both right and left side. It's noticeable only if you turn off the screen or in black. So you will see some black marks on blue 2. unlike the old panel the brightness on edges are more brighter than the center thus making impossible to show green on edges (it can only show yellow). This will eventually result in burn in on all four sides. hope LG admit the problems and recall evo panel soon.

[@trumpameri1638]

Burn in

[@sc0tty319]

@@trumpameri1638 sadly this happened right after lg installed the new oled tv :(

[@Voidward]

Was wondering if I'd end up regretting not waiting on this when I got my CX for PC usage. Super happy with the purchase still.

[@sohrubjoshi5189]

What kind of PC usage ? I’m looking to use with MacbookAir M1 for image editing and coding.

[@Voidward]

@@sohrubjoshi5189 Gaming and general usage. Browsing, video viewing, some crypto trading. Lots of static imagery. Burn in has not been a concern at all, but I run at 30% brightness most of the time, which is comfortable in my low light home office. I do some image editing in lightroom with it, but if you want to work mostly in Adobe RGB there are probably better monitors for that use, as it doesn't have great coverage. Looking at it though, the m1 display also covers the DCI P3 space out of the box, so it depends on if that's adequate for you. It's fine for my usecase. Sublime text looks great on it too. I'd only really recommend it if you're going to do some type of content consumption on it also. Would be a shame to pass up HDR movies and at least some gaming on it.

[@sohrubjoshi5189]

@@Voidward thank you for your input, I normally work with Sony A7rIV files in LR and PS. Yeah content consumption could be one thing that I can finally do. So how you connect your computer to TV? Do you get full resolution of 2160P or your force it down to 1440p?

[@Voidward]

@@sohrubjoshi5189 HDMI 2.1 cable. No reason not to go 4k 120hz. It's the main reason I bought the display. I'm not sure what m1 MacBook air supports though thought thunderbolt. On PC you need a 3000 series Nvidia cards or else you're only getting 4k 60 / 1440p 120. Edit: Reddit posts about this seen to be saying 4k 120hz works via boot camp but apple doesn't support it natively, and you'll be limited to 4k 60. I'd suggest you do your own research on this though, the posts I found were over 6 months old and apple might have updated this since then.

[@estusflask982]

Does it not burn in on PC?

[@TueenTuo]

As far as I am concerned, the G1 is only a little brighter, and that's it. It does not seem worth the money either, especially if you want a stand. The only difference is the evo panel, which most people claim to have gotten with their C1, too. All it takes is a service remote to find out, and you can buy one on Amazon for 10 bucks. Also, the whole argument of the a90j and a80j having better picture processing is another misleading claim. The Sony processor is on by default, and the LG one, as far as I know (a processor nobody talks about) is not, at least when on display. It adds sharpness and contrast depending on the scene, but in game mode it's turned off. To add, the Sony processor is probably not much better than last years premium model, if at all. People hate settings you can change from off to on, so they leave it off, while Sony, for some reason, get's away with it without mention. You can change it in the settings on LG, while on the Sony, you cannot. The only way to turn it off is by using Game Mode, which gives you better input lag. The downside is that the picture processing is turned off, which really only comes in handy with the upscaling features in lower resolution content. The AI picture pro does the same thing on LG's end. All of these televisions trade blows in terms of what looks best, and it's a matter of opinion, as they are different. It depends on the scene and source material. Maybe Sony for most is better for TV, while it boils down to contrast and gaming features in the LG for most. I'd say the LG is the best overall TV this year, and this is what I've seen and why I bought it. I did my comparisons, and this was the best, price or not. Anyone saying they saw otherwise seems biased, dishonest, or uneducated, but the overall best TV is the C1 (price included or not), while others have claimed that the A90J is the best overall, at least in terms of picture quality. On paper, the LG can compete with the Sony, and a lot of people do not want to hear that. If you calibrate the screen, the LG, especially during game mode, can look just as good as an A series Sony TV in game mode with motion just as good or better. For overall value and picture quality, game mode or not, the LG seems to come out on top, especially the C1 and in game mode, as you have a game bar. I've seen the side-by-sides, and the LG looks just as sharp on RTINGS than both the Sony TVs, and this is a comparison anyone who has not seen them in person can look at. If any difference is present, it is barely noticeable. Maybe in upscaling content the Sony has the slight edge, but overall, they can both make upscaling look near 4k with the right settings. The motion is the same if not better, on LG, except for 24p content, which Sony may have a win when it comes to making a movie smoother and more like a movie at lower framerates. While color gradients and shadow detail may be a little better, on Sony near black handling, gamut, and contrast are slightly better on the LG television. I'd say that with the processor on in the Sony, it can help accentuate detail a bit better, but I'd say that the LG can do just as good if not better overall, with or without that effect present in most scenes. The Sony can at times look 3D, but I've seen the same out of my C1. The Sony may be a little brighter, but in a dark room setting, this is negligible, as most setting won't allow for peak brightness, especially in games and game mode. Overall, you will not notice unless side by side in a Vivid mode comparison. The Sony TVs simply seem overpriced, or LG underpriced their televisions this year (both). The build design barely looks better on Sony, and Sony is using cheap plastic. The legs look atrocious in my opinion as well. They are all good televisions and in the top 4 for this year. I'm sick of seeing fanboys of either side bashing the other TV, as it does no good. Strangely enough, I see more Sony fanboys than LG fanboys, and they typically hit harder to justify their purchase or whatever else. They all have good screens in terms of picture detail, and I can barely see a difference, except the blue hue that acts as the picture processing and color enhancer over the Sony televisions, especially the A80J. Maybe R-tings put the processor on with the LG (I doubt it), but they all look good, except the LG has all of the features a Sony does not currently have for gaming in particular. They should have them and stop making promises, as LG has them out of the box. Google won't be begging to watch your every move with an LG, and it seems to be the overall best TV this year, at least according to sales and product reviews. If anyone says it's the Sony, then great, but I would have to question motivation and calibration settings then. Yeah, people will pay for the pre-calibration in Sony, but it is not worth 1000 dollars, as it's a way to get people to buy the television. It's a way for people to see the Sony out of the gate look better, and it does the Best Buy and Sony employees a favor for those inexperienced enough to understand TVs. Sony knows they can get away with it, so they do it. Input lag is another consideration, as LG has way lower input lag, and seems to be the overall package. If you want to game outside of game mode on the Sony, be prepared for 150-170 milliseconds of input lag (LG's is much lower, so you have to pay for it less, even though though the processors do something similar). Game mode or not, the LG does not have this issue, and is easily the better gaming monitor, having sizes as small as 48 inches. This gives you more options, as Sony will never add VRR, as they just tried to and failed miserably. Either one is great for PS5, but the winner for both consoles and overall use is the LG C1 this year, VRR or not. I kind of got sick of everyone claiming that the LG is just some write-off budget gaming TV only comparable to a Hisense, but Hisense are great, too. Anyway, this is all I have to say, but I can't help but want to add more. There's more to mention, but this is where I will stop. If you bought one of these televisions, you are lucky and should be happy. There's no dishonesty here, as I laid it all out.

[@TueenTuo]

To add, you can then override your television to display the Evo panel brightness with the service, which you probably can do anyway with the typical panel. It adds a pinkish tint when seen from an angle, but that's about the only downside. I just do not see the G1 being worth the extra 5-600 bucks. While R-Tings may not be the best reviewers, at least to me, they certainly do it a lot better than most.

[@ericforsyth]

If you want a stand, sure. But if all you do with your car is take it on school runs, a people carrier is more useful than a two-seater sportscar. If design doesn't matter (or the design of the C1 is close to as good in your use case), that's a sizable chunk of the sales pitch gone.

[@TueenTuo]

Yeah, Sony is doing bad with their sales pitch.

[@ericforsyth]

@@TueenTuo: I'm talking G1>C1

[@TueenTuo]

@@ericforsyth To each their own, I suppose. LG is not much better than Sony, but they certainly won the year. It's not to say that Sony did not bring their A game, but they did not bring the overall value. The G1 barely brings a performance boost, and many of the C1s now have an EVO panel. The G1 is more of a sales pitch gimmick than a better television, but it's still a great TV. You cannot go wrong with any of these televisions.

[@aman-mn5kc]

Hello! on the webpage the C1 peaks higher on color volume (but not in this video) Cheers!

[@RTINGSdotcom]

The reviews on our website are updated with the latest firmware and test benches compared to the video (initial testing) so that’s why the values are different. Sorry for the confusion!

[@nhernan156]

Can you turn the "ABL" off on the LG C1 77 inch? Great job!

[@drndrfnz8786]

Why wouldn’t you compare the same sizes? If you want the most accurate comparison you should keep as many things as you can consistent.

[@RTINGSdotcom]

We often try and get the 55" models, but in the case of the G1, it was what was first available for us to purchase. We do check to make sure there aren't any potential differences in sizes, and we will note any differences in the reviews. In this case though, we expect the results to be comparable across the different sizes!

[@jaycorbin5361]

What do the "OLED Care" picture modes do? (Comfort, Theater, and Kids Care) they don't seem significantly different than the regular picture modes. Are they energy saving or something?

[@XX1453X]

Love my 2020 65 CX ❤️

[@tunacanimece9027]

I think I will go with the g1 because in my region, for some reason the g1 and the c1’s price is much closer than many places in the world.

[@MrAndzzeys]

Thumbs up! Like your work - plain and simple

[@Dr.WhetFarts]

Both are great. G series looks insanely good when wallmounted tho...

[@AYouTubeChannelwithNoName]

L (G). You’re welcome.

[@The-Ry-Guy]

The room looks fine, but please sound treat it. The reverb is insanely distracting.

[@richardblaauwgeers4349]

Did anybody notice they showed the G1 mount upside down 😜

[@mrburns366]

I was JUST about to comment on that! There's no way that's right. lol

[@nola9555]

I was thinking about snagging a G2 for the sound quality and then I remembered that I had gotten Covid and now have hearing loss. I love being a teenager and already having tinnitus. Thanks for the information tho

[@colinwatt00]

@RTINGS - I have a C9 that I’ve had problems with since day #1 but my main issue is the sound quality. It sounds muffled / has no clarity. I often miss dialogue and it is VERY peaky (normally very quiet, muffled so I turn-up the volume and then it’s super loud). Does the G1 solve this or perform better?

[@RTINGSdotcom]

So the G1 does have better sound with a good frequency response and okay distortion handling. However, if you really want to improve your sound, we would suggest at least a soundbar.

[@colinwatt00]

@@RTINGSdotcom thank you for your reply. Not the answer I was hoping for but I appreciate you taking the time to help. :)

[@hugolambrechts8951]

@@colinwatt00 I want to chip in here. I recently got the C1 55 inch and have Sonos Beam V2 connected through E-Arc. I cannot put in words how nice they compliment each other. I would recommend at looking the Sonos Beam V2 that has Dolby Atmos support

[@colinwatt00]

@@hugolambrechts8951 HI Hugo, thank you for the input (pun intended) however I really don’t like soundbars. Granted, they are a nicer alternative than the classic 5.1 surround system and all the wires associated with that, but unless I wall-mount my C9 I don’t have room for a soundbar. Rather, I’d strongly prefer LG spend $50 more building the TV and put decent speakers in it. I honestly don’t think there’s any excuse for it other than the obvious - they want to sell you another piece of equipment.

[@crateer]

Another question; why do you keep an expensive TV when having problems since day 1 lol, makes no sense

[@pollocksjones7789]

The mount was placed upside down.

[@yappa6222]

No mention of pink tint on the 65G1? Surprised if you don't have any.

[@robert7622]

Be interested to see a C1 vs C9. Doubt most people could see a difference

[@ernestohernandez9370]

actually I owned a c9 65. I went and picked up a C1 65 tried it for a few days at first I didn't notice much of a difference at all until I broke it in. but since I already had a c9 65 I went all out and picked up a 77 inch so i return the c1 65. since they didn't have the C1 77 in stock at best buy I had to wait for delivery like 5 or 6 days in the meantime I put back my c9 65 and wow there was a noticable difference the C1 look quite sharper with better colors that was pretty apparent. it has a.i picture pro which actually does make a difference. film maker mode is pretty good to on the C1. then you have freesync and Gsync game optimizer settings lower input lag og and motion is a lil better too. its not a big upgrade but there's definitely noticable upgrades.

[@justrandomthings319]

Once I got to 1:07, I checked out of the video. I hate wall mounted TVs and have no intention of ever buying one.

[@allnovieveryday]

Precalibration seems to be very poor on most C1 reviews I see, especially compared to like an A80J or the G1 in this video. What is the deal with that? I don't plan on paying hundreds extra for calibration.

[@maherabboud2262]

Thank you for the informative video.. it was helpful. I do have a question. How can you find out if the c1 has the evo panel prior to buying it? I’m about to purchase one .. thank you

[@PageCrowes]

Avs forum.. fourth letter from the product code on the box.. example I know from the box mine is an evo Mine says oled48C1PUBDUSPLJR. the fourth letter from the end is a p which means Evo panel.. lg will never admit that.

[@mohammedfaiisal]

Can you compare this to JZ2000. I wanted to know if it has the gaming features as I heard JZ2000 is a great tv to buy but maybe won't be a better tv than G1 for gaming

[@Adam-vx6to]

THey do not test tvs unaviaible in their market.

[@mohammedfaiisal]

@@Adam-vx6to does the jz2000 have the same capabilities the G1 has or is G1 really better for gaming?

[@Adam-vx6to]

@@mohammedfaiisal hard to say. The hz2000 was already brighter than the g1 after calibration. Not sure how it is for gaming though the jz2000 that is

[@mankat6562]

The G1 HAS a feuture that the C1 does not have.And also the vast majority of the Tvs doesn't have.That is the NextGen Tuner ATSC 3.0.

[@palusqui]

What does this do?

[@mankat6562]

@@palusqui This tuner allows you to watch channels that 1)broadcast in 4K resolution 2) Have HDR content 3) video up to 120fps 4)Dolby Atmos sound and DTS:X 5) Dolby Vision movies 6) 3D 7)Digital watermarking 8) Better signal in hard weather conditions .These are the main features.Right know this tuner costs around 200€.The G1 is future proof. In the future you will buy it seperately if your tv doesnt have it

[@Dr.WhetFarts]

@@mankat6562 Futureproof how, most people I know only stream and watch 4k blurays - flow tv is dying...

[@SolarErazer]

I have the C1 65 upgraded from the B8 OLED.

[@PC-iv5so]

There's only one big difference I see.. 5 year warranty with the G1 (which should tell you a lot about how LG builds entry-models to fail) .. with LG you will DEFINITELY need.. but who knows if they'll even stick behind it. they had almost all '19 sets go bad after a year... and blamed it on "normal burn in"..

[@MrEddyedr]

Eh, i have a C8 thats pushing 4 years and no burn in or issues at all. A B8 i got a little later and a CX, no issues other than my remote doesn’t work on the CX anymore.

[@N.BR500]

Thought that this 'New EVO Panel' was something abt the prevention of Permanent Burn in on OLEDs, oh well, more waiting for the dream of using OLED as monitor (w/o radical change on the desktop using experience).

[@diegopeterson9146]

It is. LG warranties it for 5 years. That’s insane

[@dylanhumphrey2479]

Burn in is truly not that big of an issue on these new OLEDS man.

[@BerryNiceToMeetYou]

@@dylanhumphrey2479 what if you play a game which has a hud? Some rpgs literally take hundreds of hours to complete.

[@dylanhumphrey2479]

@@BerryNiceToMeetYou most games have HUD man. Most people don’t play for hundreds of hours at a time. If you play for like 4-9 hours a day, an OLED will be fine. Varied content helps 100% but it’ll be fine. Especially on these newer oleds.

[@BerryNiceToMeetYou]

@@dylanhumphrey2479 my head is battered lol. My current TV is 16 years old, it still works perfectly but I refuse to use my ps5 on it (outside of setting it up to make sure it works) as I want to be blown away when I play my first game. I'm torn between the c1 and the Samsung QN90A. I know the risk of burn in is reduced on the newer oleds, but the worry would always be in the back of my mind.

[@NIPSZ]

You didn't mention if they both use the same chipset

[@campos3452]

I have 3,120 hours as of this comment on my LG CX and still no burn in. And I use it for everything. Don’t worry about burn in if you just use the TV normally. Worry only if you use it with a static image. Also my TPC & GSR are off and my white points\RGB gains are all at 192. So don’t worry much. But I don’t advise my settings they are in a controlled environment.

[@brokenwrench404]

I have almost 10k hours on a C8 that is 60/40 gaming/tv usage. I don’t do anything special or babysit it. Cheers 👍

[@trumpameri1638]

I have KS model from 2016 Samsung ... 20.000 hours and picture quality is same like day one

[@CloudOmegaVII]

Do you have horizontal lines ( see - white background wallpaper )

[@trumpjongun8831]

I just ordered LG C1. Now i just need a Ps5... If im lucky maybe i get one in next year.

[@Socratezism]

Same! GL

[@DaveSimkus]

Your profile pic and name are hilarious! Thank you for that.

[@ChrisPBacon-nd7qe]

@@DaveSimkus not as funny as mines

[@trumpjongun8831]

@@DaveSimkus Thanks, but Trump seems like a normal person compared to Biden.

[@ryans413]

Just brought one home last night I’m still blown away

[@nelc2399]

what stopping me from getting C1 is 3:15 “burn in” 😅

[@bigdeddyd3044]

Hi, I own the LG Nano cell 85. I use it to game on the Xbox series x. I reached out to LG customer support yesterday to find out if the Dolby Vision 120hz firmware update will be coming. I was told yes it definitely will be . Does anybody know when that date will be?

[@lifeonearth94]

Nano cell has no 120htz

[@JorgeFeijooBSC]

Can you make the comparison between C1 Evo vs G1?

[@3arc_Paulo88]

Does the G1 only have the one mounting area on the back ? I already have a mount on the wall and having it so high up on the back of the TV would make the unit move lower on the wall.

[@ericforsyth]

Yes, and afaik you need to use the included mount anyway. I guess you might be able to remove the screws and replace them with a regular VESA mount hanger, but I don't know why you'd want to when you can have it flush and with the excellent pop out functionality of this mount. Best keep the drill handy, it'll cover the other holes anyway 😛

[@Casket_Music]

So if your wanting for just console gaming the c1 would probably be better since the brightness on the G1 sets down to 6.8 like the C1

[@nycthinklab966]

New subscribe. Good channel. Great teachers.

[@TneLiS2]

Thank you for nice comparison. No DTS support on LG TV :(

[@a_storm_inside7026]

What are yoyr thought on some of the newer manufactured c1s coming equipped with evo panel?

[@bigfather7576]

Excellent video as always. Stay safe 🙏

[@romanjamm]

People keep talking about G1 compared to C1, when really the conversation should be G1 and A90J. C1 for great TV at competitive price, G1 for flush mounting, evo panel and 5 year warranty. A90J if you think the difference in picture quality is worth 1K difference over the G1. That's a tough sell for me personally.

[@ivanredkozub]

Hello. I’m in the market for a new TV. I’m going to play console games quite a lot and watch movies. I might also play the same game for months (not non stop, of course :) and I’m really worried about the burn-in due to the static HUDs (mini-maps etc.) There are 2 options for me right now: Sony 55XH90 and LG 48 C1/CX. The Sony is $600 cheaper (it’s basically the price of PS5), but the picture quality is worse than LG’s and it lacks some gaming features. (The XH90 also has a 4K 120 blur effect) Screen brightness doesn’t really matter, I usually close the curtains anyway, plus deep black color isn’t a game changer for me (I prefer playing with lights on) Which TV would be a better option in my case? Are there any other good options within the price range? Thanks!

[@RTINGSdotcom]

The CX would be our top choice based on your needs. If you're worried about burn-in though, the next best choice would be the Hisense U8G. There are some other options, but check out the Custom Table Tool we made for you to see if any of these are best for you. Feel free to keep customizing the table even more too! www.rtings.com/tv/tools/table/58844

[@brokenwrench404]

Dude you just described me. It’s m disabled and have been playing sniper elite everyday for the last 2 years. I might mix it up with whatever new game comes out but I always go back to se4. I have a lg c8 oled with almost 10,000 hours on it and it doesn’t show any hud or minimap burn in. I also don’t do anything special or baby it.

[@ivanredkozub]

@@brokenwrench404 thank you for feedback. I bought the CX a month ago and so far so good👍

[@minor25]

you forgot one special thing about the G1, it comes with 5 years warranty on the panel so that's a plus

[@Shubamz]

So I am planning to have this in a room that using a light meter is about 100 lux. So pretty dart even with the lights on. Would most the downsides when it comes to lack of brightness b. Insignificant in an environment that's pretty dark? I'm looking at the G1/C1 or getting a Samsung QN90Q but the room has no direct sunlight or even indirect really.

[@RTINGSdotcom]

Hey Garrett, OLEDs are pretty much designed to be used in a dark room with little to no light. So, if your viewing environment is going to be quite dark most of the time, definitely go for an OLED (so the low brightness won't be an issue). Hope this helps!

[@sergiotito7420]

Excelent video. Thanks!

[@kurthugger9107]

Also the g1 has a 5 year warrenty.

[@KNakanishi]

Knocking on the back plate: the most scientifically accurate way to test build quality.

[@kurthugger9107]

The G1 also has the ATSC 3.0 tuner.

[@phoby4584]

Can someone tell me if the C1 panel is glossy or matte ??

[@NostalgicMem0ries]

g1 has no 50 or 48 inch version that is big bummer for pc gamers or people who have small flats around world and want smaller ones...

[@blacksupra001]

Is there a film or spray you can add for reflections ?

[@beloved_doug]

I loved my 65” LG CX OLED but I’m loving my new 65” C1 LG OLED even more 🙌

[@kreuger1041]

They are almost identical TVs, do you think it was worth the upgrade?

[@beloved_doug]

@@kreuger1041 For me it was honestly. The newer processor, the newer panel, the longer support, the newer Magic Remote, the better picture quality was all worth it. I got the new Xbox Series X since I had the CX and I can tell the difference with having it on the C1 now. Things look better on the C1 compared to the CX. Don’t get me wrong the CX was amazing and looked great but there is a difference between the 2 models.

[@toonylcfc781]

@@beloved_doug do you have a good collaboration settings I could use?

[@beloved_doug]

@@toonylcfc781 I don’t with the C1. I’m trying to get it calibrated soon.

[@BlackBruceLeeTheGreatDekuTree]

For me what I noticed is the C1 has better looking whites compared to the CX and slightly better shadow detail

[@shadowraziel69]

Hello and thx for the review, does the G1 feet stand enough space from the tv and the table to be able to accept a soundbar of 5,7cm height ? Thx

[@MC-jb9uf]

I’ve exchanged 7, yes 7 65 inch C1’s at my local Best Buys because of pink tint that is visible in certain scenes like snow / clouds.

[@someone-wi4xl]

out of how many you guys have sold ? and did you get the same complaints on the G1 ?

[@MC-jb9uf]

@@someone-wi4xl I don’t work for Best Buy. I’m the consumer.

[@someone-wi4xl]

@@MC-jb9uf wait so YOU exchanged your C1 7 times ???

[@MC-jb9uf]

@@someone-wi4xl Yes - 5 different Best Buy locations & same outcome. It’s unacceptable to have pink hue areas of the screen for a tv that cost 2K + Kicking myself for selling my C9

[@ryans413]

@@MC-jb9uf Are you sure it’s not some type of setting you have on or not adjusted right. My 55 C-1 doesn’t have that issue like you returned 7 units I find that hard to believe 7 units were defective that must have been annoying to return the TVs so much

[@yaboidarkrai1920]

Burn in shouldn't be an issue if you refresh your pixels after your last sign off of the day I do this to keep my display in mint condition and yes I play almost everything on it using my pc like fps, mmo's openworldganes etc and this technique thus far hasn't pose any problem thus far

[@tilifony]

I haven't see any video in youtube of someone has suffer from burn-in issue when he is using his tv in a normal way. enjoy your TV burn-in is a mythe made by competitors

[@brokenwrench404]

@@tilifony exactly. I have a c8 with almost 10,000 hours on it and I game a lot. I don’t do anything special or babysit it. Just on and off. There’s no need to run the pixel refresh manually. Let it do it’s own thing on its own @yaboi

[@Z1OMBAL]

SONY X95J? TCL 825 MINILED waiting

[@prashantanand3697]

LG C1 has 2.2 ch sound and front firing speakers and LG G1 has 4.2 ch sound and down firing speakers

[@johnb4905]

The C1 with the new panel is NOT optimized for the brightness of the G1. At one time you could go into the service menu and switch it to “G1” mode but no longer. The bigger benefit would be more resistant to burn in.

[@BatTech]

LG shill. You are real busy in the comments defending LG and OLEDs.

[@Hotobu]

@@BatTech Doesn't matter if he's a "shill"🙄 or not. He's correct. The one thing they missed in this review is that the G1 takes less power to reach the same brightness levels which means it's more resistant to burn in.

[@blacklyfe5543]

@@Hotobu its not

[@blacklyfe5543]

@@Hotobu and he's wrong LG has modes that prevent from you turning on your TV for long periods of time

[@Hotobu]

@@blacklyfe5543 You seem to be attempting to make a point, but I can't tell what it is.

[@maxmax9615]

Are the 12 bit Panels coming in 2022?

[@erickrose5273]

Which is best for movies and gaming?

[@brokenwrench404]

Can’t go wrong with either one. it’s f you want a flush wall mount like a picture frame go with the G1. If your using the feet or regular wall mount go with the c1

[@erickrose5273]

@@brokenwrench404 ty bro you’d help me decide to go with the c1

[@ESMorg]

I had a c1 and was actually disappointed i sold it an bought a g1. I literally couldnt tell the difference. The only didfei did notice a few times was it was louder than the c1..but a sound bar is better than both

[@lukemorris9066]

I have a c1 in my bedroom and a g1 in my living room and while the g1 is better I kinda wish id just gone with a bigger c1 and saved some money

[@SAdams8782]

Does anyone know if the 2ms input lag difference is a huge deal between the G1 and C1 when it comes to gaming? Thanks.

[@sajiddawar000]

Um worrying to buy C1 due to burn in issue. Please help should i buy oled panel or any other?

[@RTINGSdotcom]

We did a big test on this which you can read more about here: www.rtings.com/tv/learn/real-life-oled-burn-in-test Basically though, as long as you avoid static content, we don't expect burn-in to be an issue.

[@justinfinch]

Great review, although I never understand why there is such an obsession with thin screens, unless they are wall mounted. I would prefer that TVs with a stand came with a built in Dolby Atmos sound system and were 10 times thicker! Let's be honest how many times do you actually look at the thickness of a TV on a stand.

[@RTINGSdotcom]

That's totally fair. A few years back when the CX came out, one of our team members purchased it for their personal usage. They didn't expect it to be as thin as it was and almost broke it taking it out of the box😅

[@micinum]

B1 65inc or G1 55inc. I am watching from 3.2meters. I do not have money for g1 65inc. Please help (now i have 55inc and it seems ok)

[@RTINGSdotcom]

The LG G1 OLED and the LG B1 OLED are both excellent, but there are a few differences. The G1 has the new evo panel, allowing it to get brighter, especially in HDR, so highlights pop more. They have different designs, as the G1 is meant to sit flush against the wall and doesn't come with a stand like the B1. Even though the B1 is lower-end than the G1, it has many of the same features like HDMI 2.1 inputs and VRR support. So, if you want the brighter TV that delivers a better HDR experience and also plan to mount your TV, then go for G1. Otherwise, the B1 should be more than enough for your needs!

[@micinum]

@@RTINGSdotcom Thank you for replying :) Here is what happened, (this is in Macedonia (north macedonia). I got the 55inc G1 and noticed in the bottom left corner there is a line that flashes on time to time. I returned the tv. Now I am confused, because the brightness of the tv was not great, (coming from IPS lg and than VA samsung ru8 55inc). I thought about 65inc B1 because of the price (its 200euro more expensive than G1 55inc) but after reading this since the G1 was not enough bright for me I can only imagine what the B1 will look in my room. So I ordered again the G1 55inc again. I kind of feel like 55 inc is small for 3meter viewing distance (for movies) but I don't have extra 300euro for 65inc C1 and the B1 since is lower in brightness I am kind of stuck with the G1 (thank god for the price 1200euro). I noticed that the new models c2 and all the other 2's are much more expensive so this was my only chance to get oled. btw if you want i can send you a clip from the problem why I returned the tv (out of curiosity). I kind of feel they did something in the EVO series that is not as bright, some things are bright but most of the darks are really dark compared to VA or IPS and that is not at all accurate dark (took a screenshot put the image in photoshop and what do you know what i see as black on the tv is not actually black). On lagom.nl/lcd-test/black, test, I can only barely see 6 and up, and on all the other tv's and monitors I have i can see from 2~3 and up...and I also feel like the transition from dark to light is not calibrated as it should no matter what you do in the settings I feel like it is not accurate at all compared to VA display. The one day I had the tv before I returning it I felt like hmmm i don't see what's the big deal with oled (and i have been using oled/amoled smartphones since the Samsung S1) even on my S21 I can see from 2 and up on the black level test...either that tv was broken or they ordered refurbished tv's for less money (therefore the lower price) or oled tv's are just not good enough (infinite contrast yeah right). I had the same feeling with the sony a80j 65inc at a friends house..everything was too damn dark and reflections ware awful, it is literary unwatchable even if you have one candle on. If I was scoring these oleds that are top of the line they would have really bad scores. And the speed of the software, how come 4 year old samsung ru8 loads and responds faster than top of the line 2021 lg tv....I am disappointed. But as I said prices will only go up so this was my only chance of getting an oled...if it was not for the bad viewing angles of the ru8 I would never buy a new tv honestly. Are we certain 55inc from 3 meter viewing distance is not small? the samsung was not small but it was bright enough that i felt i dont a need bigger screen because i will strain my eyes (had this happen sitting close to 65inc and my eyes ware wondering all over the screen and translation i got a headache in half an hour.

[@MrCJR86]

i have a Samsung JU6400 from 5-6 years ago and i'm thinking of upgrading to this tv or the samsung QN90a. Both are a obvious improvement but i can't decide which

[@RTINGSdotcom]

You really can't go wrong either way! If you're in a brighter room, go with the QN90A, but if you're in a darker room, go with the OLED!

[@rajinferno007]

How do u know if your C1 has an evo panel???

[@Arrozconchopsticks]

I like the sturdiness of the G1 but the look of the C1, i was afraid of carrying it for setup.

[@mrgold3591]

Thank you for the review. I upgraded from a 55" C9 to the 77" C1 in our main living room. I'm glad I invested in an articulating wall mount to move the OLEDs down/away from room light sources (windows, lamp, overhead lights). Don't even notice the tilt since the OLEDs have extremely wide viewing angle. It wouldn't look as good with a fixed wall mount (like the G1) or on a stand with the gloss finish on the screen that reflect like a mirror sometimes. Also noticed with the larger size, the 77" looks brighter at the same settings as my old 55" C9 and my other 55" C1 in my family/game room. I had to turn the brightness down on the 77" by 10-15 to reach the same levels as my 55" C1.

[@jblaze600]

I own a C9 also. Must be hella nice to watch and game on a 77. Bananas.

[@ernestohernandez9370]

@@jblaze600 I had a c9 65 and I upgraded to the C1 77 it's really immersive on the 77.

[@disturbed932]

I believe 77 and 83 C1 panels now all come with the new EVO panels

[@maxmax9615]

Looks like the C9 is being put down like Old Yeller. Such a shame a TV most users had for a year and a half is not getting the great gaming updates even though it is HDMI 2.1.

[@mrgold3591]

@@maxmax9615 The 55C9 is an excellent OLED. Moved to the Master bedroom with only +4700 flawless viewing hrs.