"Ruger 77/357: Ultimate Camp Carbine" by TheGearTester

[@user-fl4wn9dn2c]

The 357 rifle is incredible. I have same rifle and my trigger is very light. The rifle is excellent only second to an old pre safety Marlin 357 in my opinion. The better part about the ruger is it isn't too collectable to use... and it is flawless

[@michaelsmith-bn6no]

just paid 1300.00 for mine off of gunbroker, and that was the cheapest i could find, and that was an auction. Worth every penny.

[@user-fl4wn9dn2c]

@@michaelsmith-bn6no Yes I think I paid $900 for mine years ago. But there going up. and worth it. I shoot cowboy 38 loads through mine and it is more quite than 22

[@busterdog321]

1300 holy heck! They appreciated that much?!

[@michaelnorman2967]

Excellent video sir. Your videos on this rifle help me to decide to buy one a few years ago. Unfortunately I traded it in for a different firearm and I've regretted that decision ever since. I am so glad that Ruger decided to bring them back into production because health constraints warrant me using a lightweight rifle. I have a Ruger American 22wmr which I absolutely love but I need something with more power behind it so I think I will be getting one of these again in the near future plus either a GP100 or Blackhawk 357 to match. I agree about the magazine issue and I hope they will revise how it is made. I personally didn't have any other issue to bring up than that so I'm looking to bring this rifle back into the homestead. Thanks again for your review.

[@crowleykirk]

Awesome gun... I have one and love it:-) Great combo paired with my Ruger SP-101. The best!

[@CaveWyatt]

I love the concept of pistol round-compatible shoulder arms. I'd like to stick with the Just Right in 9mm and .45ACP but this could be handy since I always have 320 rounds of .357 loaded up for my son and I to shoot cowboy action matches. Also, I have a load of reloading stuff for .357 and .38. Maybe when I feel kitted out for semi-auto I'll pick up one of these for fun.

[@TheGearTester]

I really have enjoyed the Ruger 77/357. Sounds like you might need to pick one up. Thanks for taking the time to comment!

[@patrickshannon4854]

Have you tried the peep sight from your scout rifle on the 77/357. I love peep sights, should make a neat combo.

[@sundownsigns]

I have one of these carbines. When I first got it I could not get through a whole five round magazine without it jamming. I polished the feed ramp with jewelers rouge and a Dremel with cotton wheel and since I have had no problems whatsoever. Even my 13 year old grandson was able to cycle through magazines with no jamming.

[@TheGearTester]

+Jim Sober Thanks for sharing the information. That's and interesting idea.

[@russellkeeling9712]

Thanks for that hint. I have found if I don't load the mag to full capacity (5) it works much easier. I will polish mine today.

[@franksfamily]

I like the idea of anything 357 mag or 44 mag in a carbine or rifle. That way I have one muntion that works in 3 different types of firearms (pistol, carbine, rifle)

[@DoughboyJonesmk2]

I really wish they'd make ten round mags for that rifle. I love mine, but like you said the flush mags are a pain to get out and 5 more rounds never hurt anything. Being able to match (or exceed) the firepower of a lever action would be icing on the cake.

[@TheGearTester]

A 10 round magazine is a good idea.

[@DoughboyJonesmk2]

We need to put a bug in someones ear about that. Any Idea as to who?

[@SONOFAZOMBIE2025]

DoughboyJonesmk2 A friend that is a machinist

[@busterdog321]

They have those. Just search them on Google. Ruger 77/357 extended rounds. However I think it's around 125 dollars, maybe not that high. Also after market mags can be finikey sometimes, best to just buy more Ruger mags

[@starbuck1776]

Love mine, I also have a GP100 and a LCR 357 to go with with it. With my .38 special reloads using homecast (range scrap) bullets, I'm loading 1000 rounds for 32 dollars, so cheaper than .22 lr!

[@trynsurviven2440]

Excellent video and I agree with you that this rifle is a great camp gun.However, I find that for the money a 357 lever action is a better bargain. They run about $100.00 to $130.00 less and holds more rounds so there is no need to buy more mags. You can top it off as you fire it.

[@ShastaPacificRoad]

I agree. It's a $400.00 rifle that Ruger tacked another $500 on for their $989 MSRP. Now if it was in 9x23 and used hi-cap magazines similar to the Destroyer carbines it'd STILL be worth only $450.00 max. I got 1 of my grand-daughters a used Henry in .357 & think I'll just get for myself. Screw the 77/357. Ruger used to be the manufacturer for the working/common man and I have 5 that were really inexpensive new. Not anymore, they've forgotten their roots/lost their way. Even the 'street price' for this rifle is too much.

[@kevinwilson9589]

You can top off the 77/357, in fact I never remove the magazine to load, I just open the bolt, and slide the cartridges in.

[@kevinwilson9589]

@@ShastaPacificRoad Every quality "shootin' iron" is going up in price, except for AR-15 rifles. Good quality AR-15 rifles and pistols are going down in price, especially if you build it yourself. I agree a 9x23 would be a great idea! I passed up a Destroyer carbine re - chambered in 9x19, and have been kicking myself for almost 30 years! That would have been a fun little carbine!

[@russellkeeling9712]

@@ShastaPacificRoad The Henry is going to cost more and is no where the quality.

[@PINYAPTLOCALSEARCHSCAN]

forgot to say..if you use wheel weights for lead look out for the zinc ones.toss them out. once you know what they look like its easy to ID them. also, if you get some barrel leading its easy to clean out with choreboy copper strips..easy as.

[@kevinwilson9589]

Yeah, that's a drag. They are using more and more zinc wheel weights. The last time I bought a bucket from Les Schwabb, one third were zinc.

[@troy9477]

U do get some good velocity gains out of an 18.5" or 20" bbl. Bought a Marlin 1894 357 new in 2002. Initial shooting session at the range, i was getting just over 2100 fps consistently with factory 125's (Rem or maybe Federal). My friend and chrono owner opined that would be a nice coyote round. About 5 yrs later i created the concept of the "Hillbilly Patrol Rifle" by adding a Weaver V3 1-3x scope. (it previously had a Williams peep sight, which worked well). Scope is great- huge exit pupil, so your eye lines up easily, nice wide field of view. On 1.5x, u can see the front sight through the scope. The other option was a Burris 1.5-5x, which went onto a Savage 99 308. I liked the option of a true 1x being available for close range or quick reaction shooting. Keeping in mind that your effective range is probably 150 yds due to trajectory and bullet shape, the V3 is enough magnification. With a red dot sight, it would be a fearsome home defense carbine. That or the V3 would work well on pigs too. And being left handed, i have a strong affinity for lever guns.

[@farmerdude3578]

I own a H&R handi riffle in 357 mag. It’s a great gun and I shoot it often. Highly recommend 357 riffles.

[@davidedillman4657]

Great, fair review! Thank you.

[@russellkeeling9712]

I heard that you are loading a hard cast l80 grain bullet in your rifle. I would suggest you use a bullet of lesser sectional density that will mate better with the rifling of your barrel. Because of the added length of the 180 gr. bullet your rifling may not be stabilizing it. Try a l40 gr. bullet. My M77 loves its 140 gr. bullet and shoots them quite well. I would also suggest a lower power scope. If you like your 3x9 fine but I think you might bring your groups in tighter with just the 3 power. I have hunted and used .357 in both pistol and rifle for many years. I have taken three elk with my rifle because within that 100 yards I can always call my shot, ie. head shot.

[@justinbailey1756]

Can you top load this rifle?

[@beeamerican3767]

Ruger 77 270 zeroed at 200 yards dead on at 500 yards and further great rifle

[@exothermal.sprocket]

It's my suspicion the lack of tight groups is due to somewhat less precise quality control with pistol cases vs. typical rifle cases. Lots of things factor into accuracy with pistol cases: Case mouth concentricity Case mouth tension Bullet quality (cast lead, vs jacketed, vs monolithic) Powder load weight consistency OAL loaded cartridge length OAL case length consistency Rifle chamber could play a role in how accurate it gets as well. Playing with cartridge OAL and bullet jump to rifle lands might tighten things up as well. I bet many more of these issues are usually sorted out with rifle cartridges and less so with typical rimmed revolver cartridges. I bet someone who handloads and selected consistent brass, bullets, and worked on chamber specifics could tighten those groups up to at least 1.5" or less at 100 yd.

[@nineteenelevenden4138]

I own the 77/357 which compliments my GP100 .357 and my S&W .38. But the fact is I would also like to see one in a semi-auto cartridge such as 9mm, .40SW or .45 ACP. as Jake mentioned below...

[@TheGearTester]

Semi-auto with a 10 round magazine would get me excited. Ruger made the PC rifles. I would like to see a rifle/carbine that had its own magazine not simply used a Ruger pistol magazine.

[@mlindsay527]

Good review. Your voice is much less annoying than NutNFancy:)

[@ajs7878]

You watch your damn mouth!

[@mattluszczak8095]

Dude it's so similar...they are prob brother's lol

[@hossor123]

Bed that rifle and it might cut your groups in half! I have th 77/44 and bedded th action and 2" of the barrel and it cuts the grouos in half. I shoots 300gr subsonic handload into 1.5moa. I also shortend the bolt throw about 1/2" so the back part of the bolt dont wiggle. But you must have a magazine in it for ejection.

[@ParasidicGeneration]

Man this would make a great shtf rifle

[@fargomonkey5133]

I agree though I prefer the same exact kind of thing in a lever action. The Henry big boy model X in .357 is faster to shoot for me, I love lever action, and it's more tactical. (Thought I'm sure you could could turn that into a very nice tactical rifle as well. His is set for hunting more than home defense, but, it could be modded out easily enough I would imagine. But still, the exact same principle applies to that as to this gun. It's perfect to pair with a 357 magnum handgun, and to use cheaper. 38 special with it. It is a great combo. A great shtf combo as you said.

[@scartifactsjeremyc6504]

I wished I could find one of these rifles would be a nice combo with my S&W 686 6inch

[@hillshepherd9444]

Excellent Video ! Glad I Subscribed.

[@josephg.2988]

I have a 77/357, bought at the start of this month. I haven't fired magnum yet; I've been firing .38 Special at an indoor range, 158 grains, the same as my revolver. What weight .357 Magnum have you fired for the best accuracy?

[@rooferjake]

a 30-30 does not have a pointed bullet its rounded pretty much the same as a .357

[@samsayscheese]

30-30 isnt flat like a .357 but more rounded, traditionally not pointed BUT check out the Hornady LEVERevolution Flex Tip technology that are pointy and safe for tubular magazines. really changed the ballistics/range of the 30-30. check it out!

[@TyHuffADV]

IMO, the ultimate Camp Carbine would have to be the Marlin model 9 Camp carbine (Camp 9).

[@Rampant_Colt]

doc holiday17 - I liked mine, however the triggers were absolutely horrible

[@russellkeeling9712]

Did you stick that tape on your rifle or did it come that way?

[@Gitfidlpickr]

The .357’s ballistics compares to a .30-30 North American hunting cartridge. (Let’s stop thinking pistol vs rifle ok? With Remington 125-grain JHPs the .357 revolver got 1442 fps but a carbine got 2038 fps (!) The .30-30 ammo 150-grain JSP: 2284 fps. Is it a surprise that an 18″ carbine delivers substantially higher velocities than a 4″ revolver firing the same cartridge. If you are hunting or hiking anywhere in the Appalachian chain, the Ohio R. Valley, the woodlands (MN, MI, WI or IL, IN, OH, IA, MO, AR,TN) you don’t need 2700 fps (flatter). You don’t need 500 yards. You need to ZERO in on your average range (add Kentucky windage) .

[@DimaProk]

Why surprised? it's most basic understanding - longer barrels produce faster velocity because more powder is allowed to burn.

[@Gitfidlpickr]

+Dima Prok I'm not surprised (are you?) My point is that a cartridge can be fired from pistol, rifle, bolt action, semi and performance will vary. 1800 to 2000 fps beats anything carried by Lewis & Clark or even Custer and yet they got their job done.

[@DimaProk]

+Gitfidlpickr Ok, I misread your sentence. I think you meant to put question mark at the end of "same cartridge". P.S. I am certain Lewis and Clark had much heavier "bullets", it's not just velocity that matters. An arrow going 300 fps is deadlier than a bullet going 2000 fps.

[@Gitfidlpickr]

+Dima Prok You are right on about caliber and firepower from Lewis & Clark to Custer a 1795 Model US Infantry Musket was a .69 calibre, www.militaryheritage.com/musket17.htm The long rifle, Kentucky rifle, or Pennsylvania rifle. Caliber .25 cal to .62 cal - .40 to .48 cal was most common Muzzle velocity 1200 - 1600ft/s Wikipedia Custer’s 7th Cavalry June 1876 Model 1873 Springfield carbine and the US Army a .45-55 light carbine version for the cavalry Wikipedia

[@tank2449]

but handloaded 30-30 is still way more powerful and can load heavier bullet. custom made bullets up to 200 grains. 44 mag in the ruger 77 would be a way better gun than the 357 mag. dont get me wrong 357 is powerful but 44 mag is way more powerful and alot heavier bullets.

[@erwinchomsky9149]

Nice video, sir. I'd like to purchase a gun, mostly for shooting at the range. Can the ruger m77 chamber the .38 special as it is possible with a .357 mag revolver ?

[@TheGearTester]

I fire .38 special all the time in this rifle.

[@erwinchomsky9149]

Very nice to know ! It must be great for less expensive training with a low recoil and taking small game :)

[@MrMudNugget]

its a good rifle if you carry 357 mostly. This way you can use both ammo out in the field.

[@russellkeeling9712]

I have to use a slow burning powder to be able to use the same ammo in both pistol and rifle. When I first started loading for the rifle I had to keep the ammo separate because the rifle ammo was to hot for my pistols. With a slower burning powder like 2400 or blue dot I get the max from the rifle and can still use it in the handguns. There is a lot of fire that comes out of the handgun though. Even with factory ammo you will see a pretty good increase of velocity from the longer barrel of the rifle.

[@stevebagwell5232]

I received this gun as a Christmas gift this year, I think this is a pretty sweet gun. I was wondering how you camouflaged the stainless steel barrel. Did you just use traditional camo tape or something else?

[@TheGearTester]

I used some no mare bow tape. It is a plastic tap that does not hold moisture. This is a link to a video about it. "Best $6 Gun Camo" by TheGearTester

[@polpterusdelhezi]

This kind of single feed controlled feed looks like on my pistol, and it wont work if i gently let the slide go home with my hand, it needs to cycle quickly for the controlled feed to really work-when i use the bommerang technique, and stop the slide 1cm before its completely in battery, the round is under the extractor.

[@markshreve2612]

So Hornady makes ammo you should try

[@MrDeathd]

You really peeked my interest in this video how do you think the buffalo bore 180 grain would do in this carbine ,seen the video on the 44 mag which has interested me i'm on the conquest for a do all carbine that you can take rabbit ,bull frog ect. and other small game , also take out snakes and rats( god how I hate them) to stopping a black bear, deer, elk .But I don't want something that will kick the tar out of me after a shoulder reconstruction ,and having one eye I can only shot from that shoulder, good video thanks

[@TheGearTester]

Take a look at this video I produced. "Ruger 77/357 Mag: Plywood Penetration Test" by TheGearTester I shoot the buffalo bore 180 grain at 100 yards. Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment.

[@dannystephens7246]

Bed the barrel and use Federal or Winchester ammo instead of that cheap junk PMC stuff and you will find that your groups will shrink considerably. Find one good load for a tight pattern and stick with it! I use Winchester 125 jacketed soft points in my Marlin 1894C and it is deadly accurate and devastating on deer at 100 yards with open sights.

[@marcosviana7274]

Can i use in 357 caribine or revolver ammo of 38 special? The automatic pisto 357 can use to 38 special or just revolver ?Have this carabine ruger 357 way to adapt a cartridge more longer contais more ammunitions?

[@TheGearTester]

This rifle only fires .357 Magnum and .38 Special cartridges. The only factory magazine that I am aware of is the 5 round detachable Ruger magazine. .357 Sig ammo that is used in some automatic pistols will not work.

[@marcosviana7274]

ok...thanks for explanation....nice gun and versatil....nice to get a rifle and revolver ,,,to use both ammo 2357, 38 special"... Thank you..

[@winstonskafte5505]

Hard to beat a lever gun for fun though .

[@TheGearTester]

Very true!

[@aaronsabin8868]

I wouldn't go with "ultimate" camp carbine. I'd much rather have a Henry, Marlin or Rossi lever action in .357/38. Once they're broken in, you can't beat their reliability. They come with 16", 20" or 24" barrels (some round, some octagon shaped - 24" wouldn't be considered a carbine). Some can have scopes, but most are intended to be used with open sights. Then, there's the fun factor. Lever guns are just plain awesome and are a ton of fun to shoot. More so than a bolt gun anyway. Just my 2 cents......

[@pmelmike1]

I own one of these rifles in 44 mag as well as a Henry Steel Big Boy in 357 mag. I really love that Henry but the Ruger has the advantage of being lighter and much easier to disassemble (no screwdriver required). That's a huge plus for a camping/woods gun. Henry gets the edge in capacity and speed though. I'd feel comfortable with either honestly. I'm partial to the bolt gun but to each their own.

[@adrianotero7963]

aaronsabin I agree with your statement.....bought a Ruger 77/357 for hogs around the property.....found that I did not need a scope but did need more capacity.....sold it to a friend who was eyeballing it and purchased a Rossi 92 in stainless....now I'm happy as a pig in slop....

[@jeremy74pow]

I love mine , use it to shoot hogs. Wish they made one in 357 Maximum.

[@Rampant_Colt]

jeremy74pow - can't remember the last time I saw ammunition for that

[@mot0rhe4d40]

@@Rampant_Colt they are a seasonal run. It lives on in the hand loaders world. Real popular with the single shot crowd. I recently acquired a Traditions G2 Outfitter in 357 mag, it will likely end up a maximum at some point.

[@Rampant_Colt]

@@mot0rhe4d40 thanks for introducing me to a kick ass new rifle! Love them single-shot rifles as a handloader

[@mot0rhe4d40]

@@Rampant_Colt I got real lucky , found mine for $250 ( Traditions new introduction price ). Think they are going for mid $300 to $400 now. The factory Winchester 110gr and Federal 158gr had the same point of impact at 75 yards. Groups were 1.25" to 1.75" with a 4.5x scope, could not be happier with it. Cheers and good luck this season.

[@russellkeeling9712]

If you like the .357 Maximum you can just get a 350 Legend. The 350 just about mirrors the ballistics of the .357 maximum.

[@russellkeeling9712]

I believe you are in error when you say the .357 has the same ballistics as the .30-.30.

[@danoneill2846]

cool tape ...... love my 44 , has fact camo , but the barrel is SS & needs some tape .

[@le_flos01]

awesome

[@TheGearTester]

Thanks!

[@le_flos01]

TheGearTester Happy Merry Christmas!

[@TheGearTester]

Merry Christmas to you!

[@hillshepherd9444]

You are as detailed & even sound & speak like " tnoutdoors" guy. I like it. Are you his son?

[@user-fl4wn9dn2c]

I think the 125 grains only drop around 6" if zeroed at 100 yards by memory. would have to check. I felt it was great out to 200 yards.

[@russellkeeling9712]

A 125 grain bullet with a sectional density or.140 if sighted at 50 yards will drop 2.1 inches at one hundred yards if a velocity of 1800 fps is achieved. With this rifle you should be able to achieve a somewhat higher velocity with a 125 gr. bullet. This information is from a Speer reloading manual #12.

[@user-fl4wn9dn2c]

@@russellkeeling9712 Thanks, I have the same rifle. It is an excellent one.. I reload for many years but in one of my books I think the 18" barrel can get up to 2100 FPS in the rifle data not pistol data. I Have downloaded some lead 158 gr to about. 750 fps cowboy loads and it is more silent than a 22 rifle and good for rabbit sized game. Reloading book is Serria

[@ricktaylor5744]

3030 has lot more energy than the 357. The 44 magnum and a 30-30 or about the same as far as energy.

[@allenhenry1113]

what is different between carbine and regular gun?

[@TheGearTester]

+allen Henry The term "carbine" usually is used to define a short, compact rifle. Historically, a carbine was made by shortening the rifle barrel on a standard long gun.

[@allenhenry1113]

So is has nothing to with the shooting of the gun. It's size is what makes a gun a carbine.

[@TheGearTester]

allen Henry Thats the working definition that I am using. Size and weight seem to be the biggest determining factors. Google image search m4 carbine vs m16 rifle. I think that the pictures will help give a good visual representation of what I am struggling to describe verbally.

[@kevinkethe4300]

wish this gun was made in 460 s&w

[@jacobwernitznig1618]

Feeding concerns may rule this out for a bear defense gun.

[@woodrowcall3158]

I’ve not run into any issues. Outside of 1 video of someone dicking around on KZbin and dubious anecdotes I haven’t witnessed anything but reliability.

[@larzakalazerath6655]

part of his feeding issue is he's cycling what looks to be a flat nose wad cuter. Any of the flat nose can be difficult for a bolt gun. The 77/44 has the same issue. If you use ball ammo or any more conical shaped bullets it's a non issue especially with any of the soft tip rounds. Polishing the feed ramp and chamber can help but soft led that's flat just does not deflect into the chamber well.

[@amuba6al]

we need a 77/44 vid

[@TheGearTester]

They are basically the same rifle. The .44 Magnum version would be more powerful but I think the vast majority of the things that I am saying about the 77/357 would apply to the 77/44. Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment!

[@russellkeeling9712]

@@TheGearTester I owned a .44 cal. rifle, not an M77. I found the rifle to be exactly like my .357 in size. Actually a little lighter if the mag. was not inserted. My problem with the .44 was that the barrel was the same size outside diameter so it was much thinner. When shooting from the bench I had to make sure to give it lots of time to cool down between shots or the shots really started to wander. I sold that rifle to a hunting guide as a saddle gun because it was truly a good camp rifle. Pesky bear, no problem.

[@michaelsmith-bn6no]

I just broke down and bought BOTH. I see the advantages to owning BOTH. If you went without your daily latte, and limited your data on your "smartphone", it would free-up the necessary funds needed.

[@anton1949]

Great idea but it has no locking lugs in the receiver.

[@kevinwilson9589]

The locking lugs are in the rear part of the receiver.

[@adrianotero7963]

30-30 does not have a pointy bullet.....unless you use Leverlution ammo.....

[@keith9875]

Does anyone have an idea when this model rifle will be available for purchase again?

[@woodrowcall3158]

It is available now, but now it has a threaded barrel and improved feed geometry.

[@keith9875]

@@woodrowcall3158 Where?

[@woodrowcall3158]

@@keith9875 They had at least one at Bud’s in Sevierville two weeks ago. The FFL I work at part time received three last month.

[@keith9875]

@@woodrowcall3158 I live in Utah so I regularly check with Cabelas, Sportsman’s Warehouse, Scheels, Gun Genie and Buds. Maybe I just missed it but will be back in East Tennessee about November. Thanks

[@hugostiglitz9864]

Be careful when ordering one. The gun I received was blued, not stainless. I did not even know there was a blued model. Doesn't appear on Ruger's website.

[@josephg.2988]

HugoStiglitz I got my 77/357 early this month, and it was stainless. Could the dealer have made an error? Odd, though; I didn't know it came blued, either.

[@hugostiglitz9864]

The dealer did not make it clear (possibly on purpose) and I didn't ask because I thought the only model available was stainless. Lesson learned.

[@jeffkus4795]

30/30 is a flatnose bullet. That looks like 308.

[@redneckmini14]

I would say a ruger hawkeye in 204 ruger would make a much better coyote rifle than a 77/357

[@TheGearTester]

For shots beyond 100 yards you are correct. If fact any center fire rifle cartridge would probably be better.

[@russellkeeling9712]

It would depend on what you intend to do with the coyote. If you are going to skin it and sell the pelt then use the .357 because there will be something left to skin.

[@hillshepherd9444]

I see Ruger kept the push button mag release for that gun, unlike the piece of crap little " lever " mag release they put on the 10/22 instead of keeping the button release !!!

[@crackerstorm112]

ruger no longer make them. not surprised as the probs i had were outrageous.

[@kevinwilson9589]

What kind of problems did you have? I bought one of the "re -- release" rifles and mine is flawless. I enjoy a bolt rifle and re - loading straight walled cases is so much easier and faster than bottle neck cartridges. I am so happy with mine!

[@therlowpopejr3540]

HENRY IS THE BEST

[@seanduncan33]

That was totally a 308. 30-30 can't use pointed bullets because of tubular magazines

[@russellkeeling9712]

Sure they can. Not every 30-30 is a lever gun. The thing that holds a 30-30 back is the thin wall of its case.

[@seanduncan33]

I was saying pointed bullets don’t work in tubular magazines because they puncture the primer of the round in front of them under recoil. Hornady fxt is the exception to that. The lever actions that shoot pointed bullets use a traditional magazine instead of tubular because of this

[@mitchellhall8553]

can someone tell me about some guns like this that are cheaper I live in Indiana and want to use it for deer im looking to spend about $600

[@TheGearTester]

You can purchase a 77/357 for around 650-700. I don't think that any other company is producing a .357 magnum bolt action rifle currently. You could also look into a Marlin .357 magnum lever action rifle too.

[@mitchellhall8553]

ahh ok I know I went to rugers sight for these guns and they wanted like $1000 for them im leaning more towards a .44

[@trynsurviven2440]

Rossi has a great little 357 lever action also.

[@Errror404]

Mitchell Hall Try Bud's, they're in the $660-ish (plus fees). Ruger's site shows an MSRP of around $969.

[@russellkeeling9712]

Look into the break action rifles. Many firearms manufacturers make them and they are very functional.

[@danb4258]

Your review is nice and made me check out the rifle. BUT.....the price is a real turn off.

[@russellkeeling9712]

You get what you pay for.

[@michaelsmith-bn6no]

You pay what you get for.........lol Try getting one of these (if you can even find one) now for under $1500 on Gunbroker. It's going to get worse before it gets better, especially with the states pressing more and more restrictions.

[@paulvenn4447]

Great review, just in future, it's "sen" not "steen" :)

[@markalford5406]

The 3030 has way more power than a 357, 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@mot0rhe4d40]

True Mark, where the 357 in an 18" barrel it has next to no recoil and the report is like a 22 LR / 22 Mag. Which is what I was looking for. Neither of my daughters are fans of recoil or loud reports. One day I have hopes that they will upgrade to their grandfather's 30-30 for hunting. Till then the 357 magnum carbine will do 😉 Cheers

[@PINYAPTLOCALSEARCHSCAN]

you say "i have done a lot of shooting with this gun 500 rounds" 500 rounds is nothing IMO..my 223 is 3 years old and its seen 20,000 rounds through its barrel and i call that "a lot of shooting".you also state same ballistics as a 3030 ???...dream on buddy...!!! i did have one of these but sold it cause the bloody thing would not cycle after the 2nd round ..wake up ruger.

[@DimaProk]

+tap water You shot 20k rounds through the same barrel??? The barrel is rated for 5k rounds and military grade barrels around 7.5k I believe. Are you just blasting dirt to see how fast you can pull the trigger? 20,000 rounds even at conservative 40 cents a piece, that's 8,000 dollars in ammo! I agree that 500 rounds is not a lot but it's a bolt gun and that's makes a huge difference, especially when you're shooting targets and waiting for your barrel to cool.

[@PINYAPTLOCALSEARCHSCAN]

+Dima Prok do the math...150 to 200 rounds most weekends at my range for the last 3 years is ????.. (HINT...150x52x3=?)..whats the most expensive part of shooting ??? any idea? ill tell you,its the case...and i get 15 to 25 loads per brass case and i don't know where you get 40 cents a piece from ??? ever heard of "re loading" ?? my loads are doing 1500 fps and my max is 2000fps using cast wheel weights with gas checks in place plus alox beewax mixture of bullet lube,which gives me very little barrel leading but easy to clean out using CHORE BOY copper wrapped around a cleaning rod tip... at these speeds if a 223 stainless barrel cant take many many thousands of rounds i give up gunning.

[@DimaProk]

+tap water I don't know what happened to my reply from a smart phone. I do reload but since you didn't mention it I just calculated factory rounds cost. Brass for me is actually lowest cost - free. I collected thousands of .223 shells, most have not even been loaded once and If I ever need more I made friends with 1 brass collectors I buy brass $1/lb, I just tell her to separate .223 for me. Last time I went out I collected 20 lb! of .223, .308 and some pistol brass. I prefer to go to go shooting wild. It's a long drive 1:45 hours but outdoor range in my area cost about $20, it's not worth it with all the rules and restrictions. Because it's the whole day event for me I can't go as much as I want, got family too. But the place I go to it's surrounded by sand walls like a quarry, it's huge and safe, I call it "gun pit" in fact it's a lot better / safer than the outdoor range we have in the city. I don't know how you find time to cast and reload unless you got progressive press. I reload for accuracy so each round powder is measured to a hundred of grain. I dump the bulk weight from RCBS thrower and then use my electric home made trickler OMEGA style I made myself that cost me few dollars in parts from Home Depot :-) works really well.

[@DimaProk]

+tap water Certain powders like 4198 require case to be filled to 95% for optimal performance. If you have too much empty space it doesn't burn well. If you're shooting only 1500-2000 fps, you might as well shoot 22 hornet. Brass is more rare though. How's accuracy with cast lead? I think if you add gas check it just doesn't make sense to cast from saving $$ point. I buy bullets 7-8 cents a piece and I can shoot them at full velocity and no need to cast, gas check, lube, etc. Where do you get wheel lead and how much does it cost? I was thinking of casting .357 maybe.

[@PINYAPTLOCALSEARCHSCAN]

+Dima Prok ill answer all your questions..i use UNIQUE powder and a bacron filler so empty space in case is not an issue. why i use a 223 when i can buy a hornet rifle for the speeds i use ?? because cases are cheaper and plenty available and if i go hunting i have the option of using my 223 at full power using HP bullets.(around 3600fps) my cast bullets are very accurate.100 yards into a 1.1/2" circle which is good enough for me. i make my own gas checks so cost is "0". my mate is a tire fitter so my cost for wheel weights is "0"..and i can get half a 20 liter metal bucket at a time of the stuff or it would end up at the tip.wheel weights for me are perfect hardness when bullet making.it has the right amounts of antimony,tin and lead for good hard cast bullets.plus when casting i drop them straight from the bullet mold into chilled water bucket for extra hardness. my press is an rcbs 4 stage,very fast and loads accurate ammo.

[@greenolive2715]

Ive had loads of trouble with the rotary mags as the last round wont chamber every time. we tried 7 different mags all with the same results. we tried many different factory ammo too..any suggestions ? here ?

[@adrianotero7963]

green olive did you go over the mag....when they are new they have sharp angles....smooth them out a bit with some wet and dry sandpaper then take them apart and clean them up.....find that it makes most problems go away.....mind you I said MOST.

[@diversify210]

I just cant see it. A bolt gun in 357 Mag and coming in at 750 bucks in 2019. Na....Ill stick with my Marlin 1894. Its really stuff like this, that makes me wonder what the fuck ruger is doing sometimes. Now I would have loved to see a Mini 14 chambered in 357 mag. I would have been all over that.

[@russellkeeling9712]

Marlin is now owned by Ruger because Remington cheapened them up so much they became junk. We will now see what happens to them.

[@teamkillz12345]

38special? dont you mean 44special?

[@TheGearTester]

No....I mean .38 special. We are talking about a rifle that is chambered in .357 Magnum.

[@TacticalJackalope]

I'm trying to figure out in 2019 six years after you posted this why the damn thing is $700??....no way it's worth that...Booo Ruger. There are so many better ways to spend $700 on a camp rifle imo.

[@russellkeeling9712]

You may be correct but try to get one now. Someone must like them because you probably won't be able to get one.

[@Burntrice747]

Bro that's like $0.50 per round

[@metallicrock5946]

i found the rotary mag as absolute rubbish.jams all the time. ruger, what r u doin ?

[@TunaPlusMayo]

How about you make sure the gun is on middle position safe before loading live ammo into it. Like you did at the 12:22 mark.

[@MrDeathd]

I prefer the rossi m92

[@TheGearTester]

That fine.

[@russellkeeling9712]

I used to have a Rossi model 92. I called it my pet. I completely wore that rifle out. As I got older I began to need the aid of a scope because of old eyesight, thus the M77 and I am glad I got it. It took some doing to get it.

[@showdownbrown6355]

30-30 is not the same as a 308 they are both 30 Cal's but 308 is more powerful

[@ryanb82]

Why would anyone put camo duct tape on a rifle...

[@BobSmith-zj6lk]

The Angry Djentleman Stainless steel is not a natural color in the woods. As was mentioned in the video, the gun is used for hunting. I do the same with my hunting rifle.

[@RideAdventurous]

So ducks cant see it...duh!

[@russellkeeling9712]

@@BobSmith-zj6lk Neither is a stainless, black, camo rifle.

[@BobSmith-zj6lk]

@@russellkeeling9712 Not sure what point you’re trying to make. Camo tape is being used to cover the stainless steel. Black is found in nature and camo is used to mimic nature.

[@subdawg1331]

why

[@VicariousReality7]

12:20 Unacceptable.

[@jedinutcracker]

thats one ugly stock, but i cant wait till i have enough saved to buy one of these, i wanna get a nice walnut stock and i can put my nice leopold scope on it.

[@G19Jeeper]

First person to not give a fuck about your first comment

[@TheGearTester]

Take and deep breath and relax. Silly people do silly things.

[@billh7860]

simuler? valquartsteen?

[@starkad67]

Only usefull on roe deer and smaller.

[@Rampant_Colt]

Carsten Heunecke - I dropped a charging rhino with one shot to the big toe with mine

[@russellkeeling9712]

You would think so but I have cleanly harvested three elk with mine.

[@jpoppinga8417]

Let's be honest for a minute. A .22 lr has killed more deer over the years the anything else. If a can 22 will kill a deer then a 357 is plenty adequate.

[@yohannjardiniano6726]

First comment

[@866em]

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[@RideAdventurous]

Won’t take a poke at a coyote at 200 yards....that’s a lack of talent. I can bust a milk jug out to 300 yards. Ill take a poke at a coyote with my 77/357 at almost any distance!

[@necummins8696]

Wow you must be really young if you grow up shooting 17 HMR