Run Forge Mods on Fabric in Minecraft with KiltMC (Experimental)

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KasaiSora

KasaiSora

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@BluSpringg
@BluSpringg 2 ай бұрын
Hey, I'm the lead (and pretty much only) developer and maintainer of Kilt, and I'd like to say thanks for making this video :] I wrote a entire few paragraphs about Kilt's existence, but I accidentally hit the cancel button before I could copy it. _Why doesn't KZbin have a confirmation to cancel like Mobile does >:V_ I'm gonna rewrite parts of it, but it's not going to have the same points as it originally did unfortunately. *If you're just gonna comment "not gonna read all that", stop right there. It's just not productive.* I noticed people in the comments wondering why this exists if Connector already does, and why split the community further with Kilt and Connector existing. This project started before Connector was even a thing. Kilt started on Dec 29th, 2022, whereas the main Connector project was from May 26th, 2023. However, I believe Connector was being worked on under a completely different name, called SteelwoolMC, it was way less popular, and was still in a broken state itself. The main reason why Kilt is so behind Connector is because of the sheer amount of work that needs to be done for Kilt to work. Connector has a lot of work itself, but Kilt has even more to do, especially for only one person. As of right now, Kilt is only about 39% done, having only reimplemented 257 out of the 660 patches within Forge. But I don't believe the existence of both should split the community. The community is already really divided as-is (Forge, NeoForge, Fabric, Quilt), and what Kilt and Connector are intended to do is to bridge the modloaders together, allowing them to coexist. I believe both Kilt and Connector's devs are capable of working together to benefit each other. In fact, Kilt benefits from Connector's existence, as Kilt utilizes a library from Connector for remapping Forge mods. Some people like Forge, some people like Fabric. I'd rather people be capable of choosing, rather than only one existing over the other. My own reasoning behind disliking Forge is the dev experience with it, but NeoForge has improved on it slightly. Other devs might dislike Fabric because of them disliking its dev experience, and that's fine. Some people have their own preferences, some devs don't have time to learn a different mod loader, and that's perfectly fine. Choices exist for our preferences, while things like Kilt and Connector exist to allow stuff outside of our preferences to work within our preferences, or even the other way around. If it benefits everyone, I don't see why it shouldn't exist, or why only one has to exist. A perfect example behind this thought process is the entire light/dark mode debate. Some people argue in favour of only dark mode, and some argue for only light mode. I used to be an "only dark mode" person myself. However, after becoming friends with someone who has really severe astigmatism to the point of migraines with dark mode, it has completely changed my worldview. They advocate for choices between the two, because they know that others experience the same thing they do but with light mode instead. I still prefer dark themes, but I'll still largely advocate for both themes to exist within a program, rather than only one over the other.
@Swag.Hacker
@Swag.Hacker 2 ай бұрын
Sheesh! First, I wanna thank you for all the hard work you have put into this mod, especially considering how vastly different Forge is to Fabric. This isn't really a counterpoint, but more of an opinionated clarification. Right now, there's only really 2-3 concurrent modloaders, them being (Neo)Forge and Fabric. Now I know of the existence of Rift and Quilt, but Rift is only available for 1.13 and isn't updated, whilst Quilt is basically irrelevant in the modern modding world. In fact, one of the few mod creators that was formally Quilt exclusive now is back to Fabric, simply due to how inaccessible Quilt is. Their entire existence is questionable too. This is a copy paste of something I posted previously, but here's some quick modloader lore since version 1.0. Forge was the first major modloader that caught on. It was the only one until 1.12.2, and then development basically halted for a while. A little project called Rift was made because people wanted a modloader for 1.13. It was good and a few mods like Litematica were made for it, but it never got past 1.13. Fabric was created as a sort of spiritual successor to Rift (although they share minimal any code) for similar reasons. Because it got a fresh start but could build off the foundations of Forge, they got the chance to make it very easy to code on (unlike Forge), and more performant. Until then, these were the only 2 modloaders, with Forge being more complete & customizable, having a bigger amount of mods due to it being older, yet harder to code for, and Fabric being growing & lightweight and easier to code for, but with a lacking yet growing amount of mods. Slowly, Fabric gained traction amongst developers, to the point where it became nearly as complete & customizable as Forge, while still being easier to code on and having more performance. Newer & older coders alike started to code on Fabric, developing for both modloaders using something called "Architectury API", an API that equalizes and standardises code between Forge & Fabric. The modding scene was at peace, as both modloaders got nearly equal support. Then, some drama happened with the Fabric devs. Some of the developers didn't like the way the workflow worked, and had their feelings hurt by the rest of the team because they didn't want to add some feature they liked. Around the same time, a "trans activist group" went into the Fabric server and started to cause some noise and drama. When a moderator unbanned someone who was against them, this made some of the devs even more mad. So instead of making a mod to add said new features, and quitting the "hostile environment", they made an entirely new modloader. Its name: Quilt Quilt was a modloader that shared some of the downsides of Forge that ran Fabric mods. It was harder to code on than Fabric, slower than Fabric, and had the much smaller library of Fabric & Quilt mods. It only caught traction by 1 or 2 developers, who eventually got tired of the difficulty and left. The Quilt team to this day are very elitist and think their modloader is the ultimate solution to modding. Quilt is mostly dead right now, not even updated past 1.20.6. Some more drama happened with the Forge devs this time, however it was the whole team going against the owner of the project, LexManos. He was very hostile to the rest of the contributors and everyone hated him, so the whole Forge team (excpet for Lex himself) left and made a new modloader named NeoForge. It is a copy of Forge without LexManos. It runs Forge mods equally as well, and the only difference is that NeoForge is being updated, whilst Forge is basically dead. So the modding scene right now is: Forge, the long standing, well supported, but no longer unupdated modloader Fabric, the lightweight and coder friendly, yet more recent and slightly unpopular Quilt, the crybaby copy of Fabric that no one uses NeoForge, the copy of Forge that is still being updated to this day. Rift, the unupdated modloader that set the base for Fabric So yeah, I just wanted to add that the modloader unity conflict is mostly between Forge and (Neo)Forge. And yes, I 100% agree that Synitra and Kilt are very impressive and useful projects. One again, me and everyone in the modding community appreciate modders like you. Thank you.
@scotthayes5386
@scotthayes5386 2 ай бұрын
@@BluSpringg this development has to be a nightmare to go through you have my hopes and prayer😂
@jason13gaming
@jason13gaming 2 ай бұрын
keep pushing! amazing work so far!
@woegarden
@woegarden 2 ай бұрын
i just wanted to say, i read every word in your faq. i can feel your frustration and apathy for the current modding scene clear as day. i just hope you have someone who you can rely on when you're stressed. you have a beautiful vision for this game and i wish you all the best in achieving it. please don't stop believing in yourself.
@TheappleIOT
@TheappleIOT 2 ай бұрын
Your love for modding and the community is clear. Thank you for what your doing!
@Aueara76
@Aueara76 2 ай бұрын
One of the owners of Kilt here. Fun fact, Mekanism partially works and is the main mod used for testing.
@Swag.Hacker
@Swag.Hacker 2 ай бұрын
Wow! I really appreciate the hard work you guys put into this mod, especially considering how vastly different Forge is to Fabric. One question and a request: If this mod reaches a full release, what types of mods should we NOT expect to work (like mods that touch the rendering engine, for instance)? Also TerraFirmaCraft support :|
@DrakenRolle
@DrakenRolle 2 ай бұрын
Hey do you know if project red works? Its really kinda weird, that there is no replacement for this basic mod in fabric
@BluSpringg
@BluSpringg 2 ай бұрын
I didn't know ProjectRed was even available for modern versions, I'll take a look after my classes
@BluSpringg
@BluSpringg 2 ай бұрын
​@@Swag.Hacker Well I can tell you right off the bat that Kilt will be completely unable to load Connector. Anything that tries to load anything custom via FML will not work (OptiFine, Connector, Mohist), pretty much anything that messes with the mod loader itself, because Kilt reimplements the mod loader in an entirely custom way, not bothering with FML whatsoever.
@woegarden
@woegarden 2 ай бұрын
insane achievement miss, you and blu should be incredibly proud of yourselves. (that's such a huge mod to get working!!)
@tivn0
@tivn0 2 ай бұрын
That’s so cool! I’m looking forward to using it when it is officially released
@KasaiSora
@KasaiSora 2 ай бұрын
Fingers crossed it will be great! ❤️
@LuminystXD
@LuminystXD 2 ай бұрын
​I agree ​@@KasaiSora I am also very excited for this mod As a matter of fact I am gonna test it out now (btw there are newer versions out now)
@zuite_
@zuite_ 2 ай бұрын
Blu is super determined to make Kilt work! And the more mods i ask him to port the more determined he is to get Kilt working hahaha.
@_ItzTech
@_ItzTech 2 ай бұрын
This looks so cool! Keep it up Kasai!
@KasaiSora
@KasaiSora 2 ай бұрын
Thanks a lot Tech! ❤️
@privatechannel1272
@privatechannel1272 2 ай бұрын
Imagine someone just making a *modloader* that supports both Forge and Fabric mods at the same time Would be a dream.. 💖 Like if KiltMC and Sinytra Connector were to do a collaboration, it could lead to some wild stuff like this...
@lpfan4491
@lpfan4491 2 ай бұрын
I just imagine if someone for some insane reason tries to make a new loader that has perfect backwards compatibility with the 4 existing loaders. The absolute patching nightmare that it would be...and it wouldn't even be worth it because devs would just stick with the loader they know regardless, lmao.
@fourraq
@fourraq 2 ай бұрын
@lpfan4491 nah we only need the main 3 forge fabric and neoforge. Quilt mods are all bad unfinished patreon only mods
@3crt1
@3crt1 2 ай бұрын
​@@fourraq most quilt mods are also available on fabric so
@lpfan4491
@lpfan4491 2 ай бұрын
@@fourraq Yeah, the bits of unique functionality and behavior that Quilt has are barely used because there are only a handful of Quilt-exclusive mods(Most mods that work on Q also work on Fabric). The idea is moreso that since those traits fundamentally do exist, they would have to be supported for full compatibility with all current mods.
@Pocapka
@Pocapka 2 ай бұрын
someone will definitely do, people are already breaking barriers between forge and fabric just need to hope that the guy has a lot of spare sanity xD
@2dragonfire514
@2dragonfire514 2 ай бұрын
I hope this goes far. Most of the intrusive mods that change tons of code and application behaviors are fabric only. I have loved sinytra connector, as it allows me to use two of my favourite mods together - create (forge only) and betterend (fabric only). I was brought to this vid looking for a solution to run conquest reforged in my sinytra connector modpack. Apparently it uses code for the gui that sinytra connector is having trouble even outputting a proper log error message. And its fabric only on the version I am running it on. Hopefully kilt helps me *~*
@lonewolfplays8084
@lonewolfplays8084 2 ай бұрын
theres a fabric version of create lol
@UnknownDerpyPro
@UnknownDerpyPro 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing this, never knew about Kilt until now!
@KasaiSora
@KasaiSora 2 ай бұрын
Glad I could inform you of this epic project!
@azoreancreeper
@azoreancreeper 2 ай бұрын
i kid you not....i was literally just talking to my friend about this, i was like "Ok there is a way to port fabric to forge....well kinda...is there another way around?" and not 5 mins goes by this video comes across (damn FBI agent working fast haha) Thank you Kasai you are a life saver for showing both these solutions!
@ChuckFinley-m5e
@ChuckFinley-m5e 2 ай бұрын
I have high hopes for this project. If at any point Casinocraft starts working fully on it, I’m sold.
@Satwr
@Satwr 2 ай бұрын
the "Craftable Totems" "Mod" is just a Datapack... so its just 3 actual mods...
@PieManXD
@PieManXD 2 ай бұрын
if it was a “data pack” then it would work for fabric without any connector so you are wrong
@ConnorTerror01
@ConnorTerror01 2 ай бұрын
@@PieManXDIt is a data pack and you don’t know sh*t about modding, a mod contains a data pack that is always running, data packs are used to add recipes, thats how modded items are craftable, they need the data pack part for block drops as well, I can make a mod that does just that for fabric in like 5 mins but KasaiSora focuses on mods that other people have made not making mods.
@BluSpringg
@BluSpringg 2 ай бұрын
@@PieManXD No, they're technically correct. Craftable Totems can easily work as a datapack, but the mod is made in MCreator, which is why it's Forge-only. There is a lot of useless Forge-exclusive code within the mod that only exists because of the way MCreator works.
@PieManXD
@PieManXD 2 ай бұрын
@@BluSpringg yeah it could easily work as one but it isn’t so it’s still a mod.
@Satwr
@Satwr 2 ай бұрын
@@PieManXD its not... the only thing in the jar that is anything mod related is the file that shows information about it... slap a pack.mcmeta in there and you have a normal datapack... slap a fabric.json in there an there you go it works in Fabrik aswell... the core logic of it is a Datapack... stop talking about stuff you dont have any clue about!
@doveedusteds
@doveedusteds 2 ай бұрын
Sodium is currently avaliable on NeoForge! (Starting from Sodium 6.0. It is in Beta, but it also doesn't require Indium where it used to be required)
@lpfan4491
@lpfan4491 2 ай бұрын
That's actually a common mistake btw. Many modpacks still bundle Indium even tho it is no longer needed for Sodium to have full functionality.
@xanderplayz3446
@xanderplayz3446 2 ай бұрын
Embeddium exists…
@RowanSkie
@RowanSkie 2 ай бұрын
@@lpfan4491 Better to still have Indium than get an odd mod out that needs it either way.
@lpfan4491
@lpfan4491 2 ай бұрын
@@RowanSkie There is no mod that "requires" it, its function is now part of Sodium itself. There may be mods that request it and refuse to start without it, but the loader will tell you about it. Better to not have it by default to prevent it causing seemingly random bugs and/or crashes.
@TheMasterOfSafari
@TheMasterOfSafari 11 күн бұрын
@@xanderplayz3446 why use the unofficial port instead of the official one...
@tomikun8057
@tomikun8057 2 ай бұрын
You forgot to mention the performance impact. Forge is known for having a gigantic performance hit. Running this on fabric sounds like it'll become an optimization mod at some point
@Solesteam
@Solesteam 2 ай бұрын
6:17 Kilt will probably have rope tied later on... good luck driving that though... But at least it won't fall apart...
@vaporvee
@vaporvee 2 ай бұрын
But sodium was ported to neoforge??
@ItzEnderArkail
@ItzEnderArkail 2 ай бұрын
time to put kilt in my fabric instance so i can put sinytra connector as well
@p4nkcakes728
@p4nkcakes728 2 ай бұрын
Bro might be onto something🤔
@Pocapka
@Pocapka 2 ай бұрын
Bro might be on something🤔
@Triro
@Triro 2 ай бұрын
Fabric is just objective the better mod loader. At least for modern versions.
@ZedDevStuff
@ZedDevStuff 24 күн бұрын
Agree to disagree. I sure hate having to find libraries to do stuff NeoForge provides by default. Heck, I'm giving up on Fabric if a mod I'm working on doesn't have a library for stuff I need. I already did it and I'll do it again. So for those, they're gonna be NeoForge only
@gustiyoutube9237
@gustiyoutube9237 2 ай бұрын
Thank you soooooooooo much❤
@perisce
@perisce 2 ай бұрын
The funniest thing is I specifically wanted to search for a way to get storage drawers on fabric😭
@peppesantarsiero4532
@peppesantarsiero4532 2 ай бұрын
Imagine you have, in a day, a new mod loader created from forge and fabric code, that extend these 2, is more modular and run forge and fabric mods!
@ImNotSimon_totally
@ImNotSimon_totally 2 ай бұрын
now it only needs neoforge support
@SandKnot
@SandKnot 2 ай бұрын
yoo UR VIDS HELP A LOT AND I JUST SUBED AND BTW LIKE ALL THE VIDS
@techheadfred
@techheadfred 2 ай бұрын
There have been a few attempts at this, that have since been abandoned. I hope this one is different!
@ERICBALYBERDIN-h2z
@ERICBALYBERDIN-h2z 2 ай бұрын
So I kind of had this idea… But I’m lazy so I like that someone decided to do it
@privatechannel1272
@privatechannel1272 2 ай бұрын
The BG music is taking a new nice direction 👍
@wChris_
@wChris_ 2 ай бұрын
id say fabric is better suited to run a forge mod, because of the philosophy forge has. whereas in fabric you have to do everything yourself, in forge the idea is to have the mod loader cover everything you need to do. this is especially useful if you dont want to have mods step on each others toes which causes most if not all of the fabric mod incompatibilities.
@listentoyouremperor
@listentoyouremperor 22 күн бұрын
3:57 And you know what else is massive?
@McBlastGaming
@McBlastGaming 2 ай бұрын
Now we need old mod running on new versions
@AveragePumpkin204
@AveragePumpkin204 2 ай бұрын
Ferb, I know what we're doing today.
@dunkno
@dunkno 2 ай бұрын
Love your stuff
@KasaiSora
@KasaiSora 2 ай бұрын
Thankyou so much! ❤️
@GWT_1020
@GWT_1020 2 ай бұрын
Man my minecraft says that it isn’t compatible with the other mods
@dynamisserver
@dynamisserver 2 ай бұрын
THX u bro ur the best once again goated video not even tryna glaze but i love ur vids 🤩
@TheKodeToad
@TheKodeToad 2 ай бұрын
It's technically impressive and cool but I do have to agree with "why are you doing this"
@Ryan11037
@Ryan11037 2 ай бұрын
@@TheKodeToad bc why not? I think that having exclusive mods is stupid. You can never make the perfect fabric or forge modpack bc of that
@zakaulait5378
@zakaulait5378 2 ай бұрын
If Alex mob run on Fabric, I quit my job
@BluSpringg
@BluSpringg 2 ай бұрын
bet :]
@BluSpringg
@BluSpringg 2 ай бұрын
soooo..... it runs.
@theunluckycleric
@theunluckycleric 2 ай бұрын
they are actively working on alex mobs and caves compatibility.
@arlwiss5110
@arlwiss5110 3 күн бұрын
really hoping this succeeds. i'd love to be able to play with the Aether mod alongside TARDIM
@Novaledud
@Novaledud 16 күн бұрын
I rlly wanna add mods like apotheosis ice and fire ars nouveau alongside sodium mythic metals and others
@DryPaperHammerBro
@DryPaperHammerBro 2 ай бұрын
1:32 There are WAILA forks for fabric, this is old hat for fabric
@DracoTheNinja
@DracoTheNinja 2 ай бұрын
FINALLYYYYYY i have a modpack with fabric loader and i want to add 1 mod!!!!! But the entire time, people are telling me "port to forge and use connectia-thing" just for 1 mod?! 😭 hell nah
@TeaDrinkingDuck
@TeaDrinkingDuck 2 ай бұрын
@@DracoTheNinja people are kinda dumb sometimes
@gabicerulean
@gabicerulean 2 ай бұрын
ngl I want this because Simple Clouds released as a forge only mod lol
@AlyzonXZ
@AlyzonXZ 2 ай бұрын
Hey, thanks Kasai! now i can play forge mod on fabric now 😁🔥
@_xd0998
@_xd0998 2 ай бұрын
if distant horizons works it'll be an absolute win for me
@DryPaperHammerBro
@DryPaperHammerBro 2 ай бұрын
DH is for fabric
@Silver_The_Hedgehog-h8x
@Silver_The_Hedgehog-h8x 2 ай бұрын
what is this : Exceptions occurred in Forge mod loading! Creating window..
@sebciozieminski6018
@sebciozieminski6018 2 ай бұрын
Some of forge mods would have problems too but the embbedium have few fixes added
@skylark1000
@skylark1000 2 ай бұрын
@foxynotail this happened after you made an entire mod by yourself to get drawers in fabric :)
@GrandTheftAuto6Official
@GrandTheftAuto6Official 2 ай бұрын
I love beta mods tbh
@AxoIsAxo
@AxoIsAxo 2 ай бұрын
Putting this on banner you can use: Forge + Fabric + Neoforge + Paper Im done
@imvineprexde
@imvineprexde 2 ай бұрын
A modding API would solve all these problems
@Lacrafter07
@Lacrafter07 2 ай бұрын
7:07 How is the totem mod client side?
@GamingIdmaster
@GamingIdmaster 29 күн бұрын
hey bro . where is 1.21 version mod
@MrToxiLex
@MrToxiLex 2 ай бұрын
Cool!
@Respear
@Respear 2 ай бұрын
i dont think bro cooked
@GWT_1020
@GWT_1020 2 ай бұрын
Can u help me kilt is making my minecraft crash
@lightmaker5648
@lightmaker5648 2 ай бұрын
Why not just use Embedium on Forge?
@stellar_llama
@stellar_llama 12 күн бұрын
exactly what i was gonna say every single good fabric optimization mod has its forge port. embedium, ferrite core, krypton, and ferrite core
@harbormissing
@harbormissing 2 ай бұрын
alr now we just need to run forge mods on quilt
@BluSpringg
@BluSpringg 2 ай бұрын
in theory Kilt could actually support Quilt, but I have yet to figure out how to link Kilt with Quilt, but it is entirely possible
@harbormissing
@harbormissing 2 ай бұрын
@@BluSpringg oh ok
@harbormissing
@harbormissing 2 ай бұрын
@@BluSpringg maybe kilt+ qfapi?
@BluSpringg
@BluSpringg 2 ай бұрын
@@harbormissing that doesn't work, because Kilt directly messes with Fabric Loader internals that Quilt changed quite a lot from Fabric Loader
@harbormissing
@harbormissing 2 ай бұрын
@@BluSpringg oooh
@chorty6130
@chorty6130 29 күн бұрын
My dumbass is going to slap ice and fire AND alex's caves onto a fabric "modpack" and then go through all 5 stages of grief
@3300x
@3300x 2 ай бұрын
grandmother next frfr
@thatw0n
@thatw0n 2 ай бұрын
I gotta try this with the Tetra Mod
@_Kidsune
@_Kidsune 2 ай бұрын
mods like sodium etc also have forge forks, the one for sodium is called embeddium
@Guy_that_exists
@Guy_that_exists 2 ай бұрын
theres even an official port
@RandomDuckyGuy
@RandomDuckyGuy 2 ай бұрын
ty kasai i can use forge haxs on fabric now! :D
@blikthepro972
@blikthepro972 2 ай бұрын
now all we need is an emulator to run old mods in new versions
@quadrinex
@quadrinex 2 ай бұрын
Does Kilt support Sinytra Connector
@lpfan4491
@lpfan4491 2 ай бұрын
Hopefully, then I can finally play Fabric mods on the Fabric loader.
@especialista104
@especialista104 2 ай бұрын
@@lpfan4491 🤣🤣🤣🤣 hope so
@StarFried
@StarFried 2 ай бұрын
asking the real questions
@Martin-xi2sd
@Martin-xi2sd 2 ай бұрын
Perfect for immersive portals mod😂
@VladisCrafter
@VladisCrafter 2 ай бұрын
Immersive Portals also works with Connector though :)
@Martin-xi2sd
@Martin-xi2sd 2 ай бұрын
No way he readed my comment on the previous video
@andrej1814
@andrej1814 2 ай бұрын
Do you use Celsius or Fahrenheit or Kelvin?
@that_guy1211
@that_guy1211 2 ай бұрын
YES, FINALLY PARITY NOW WE CAN FINALLY LEAVE FORGE FOR GOOD!!! (once it gets further in development ofc, let's not put the cart infront of the bulls, lol)
@remixrevolutionoriginal
@remixrevolutionoriginal 2 ай бұрын
This mod looks really cool, one problem, how do i install it cause im too stupid to know how.
@Star.6739
@Star.6739 2 ай бұрын
I really wanted to play Cracker's Wither Storm mod in Fabric, as Forge is more laggy in terms of the time it takes for chunks to load or the game to process what I'm doing, so this is one step closer to get it to work!
@sebciozieminski6018
@sebciozieminski6018 2 ай бұрын
Why no one talks about embbedium. This is fork of sodium for forge and neoforge
@adamprogame2373
@adamprogame2373 2 ай бұрын
What shaders do you use and what settings
@Caldoric
@Caldoric 2 ай бұрын
Uh, im pretty sure Sodium has a forge port?
@TerraKnight27
@TerraKnight27 2 ай бұрын
they finally made patchworkmc real
@BluSpringg
@BluSpringg 2 ай бұрын
hilariously, Kilt actually does something entirely different from Patchwork. I dunno why Patchwork didn't do the mod loading trick, apparently they were waitning on Quilt? though I managed to get it working without Quilt sooo
@cacticrown
@cacticrown 2 ай бұрын
what shaders are you using? asking for a friend...
@donniedeauto2375
@donniedeauto2375 2 ай бұрын
under 69 trillion years👇
@ThePlainestBagel
@ThePlainestBagel 2 ай бұрын
yipee for mods like twilight forest without me sacrificing my fabric mods!
@Guy_that_exists
@Guy_that_exists 2 ай бұрын
sinytra?
@ThePlainestBagel
@ThePlainestBagel 2 ай бұрын
@@Guy_that_exists i dont like forge
@StarOnCheek
@StarOnCheek 2 ай бұрын
As beneficial as this seems for the mod ecosystem, the point of Connector was to allow all mod developers to migrate to Fabric without worrying about leaving Forge users that can't switch yet behind. This mod is of course, awesome, and we should not prevent or discourage awesome things, but it is sad that this will likely stall the migration to Fabric again. What's worse is that this mod should introduce at least some of, likely most of, the performance cost of Forge on top of Fabric and if KiltMC is accepted as a long term solution it will deprive Fabric of it's biggest selling point, even further staling the migration
@Th3Adjuster
@Th3Adjuster 2 ай бұрын
yea thats what i was thinking, new mod developers switching to fabric are likely gonna be turned away by this, honestly this mod is more of short term solution over long term progress typa thing and its jus gonna hurt the modding scene
@cubed.public
@cubed.public 2 ай бұрын
I don’t think so If more people are turning towards fabric because it can run of forge (which I don’t really believe but let’s assume) then allowing forge mods to run on fabric just reinforces fabric They chose fabric because of simplicity, efficiency, and capability for multiloaders. Saying forge can run on fabric won’t change that, if they want to develop forge then they would have from the beginning Personally I think it has the opposite effect and I’m honestly confused why some people think otherwise. The entire point of people still developing forge is because people still use forge. If fabric modpacks are viable as long as some mods are forge, then more people will develop fabric/multiloader Yes it’s true that it’ll be laggier, but what I’m confused about is why you’re blaming kilt. Sinytra has it so mods that could be optimized in fabric are used on forge, which defeats the entire point of fabric being efficient. Like is your goal for everyone to develop for fabric, then it becomes useless as a modpack is forced to be forge?
@BluSpringg
@BluSpringg 2 ай бұрын
The thing about Kilt is that it's intended to be a "no other way" kinda solution. I actively advocate for the Fabric versions of the mods to be used because they would likely have additional fixes that Kilt wouldn't be able to replicate. I say this as a person who actively ports lots and lots of mods to Fabric for friends. Alex's Mobs, Lost Cities, Fossils & Archeology, Relics, Ice and Fire. If the mod developer already didn't intend for a Fabric release, then I don't see how Kilt would be harmful to that. Take Create for Fabric for example. Their team is largely the reason why Kilt is able to work well, and Kilt cannot replace Create for Fabric with Create for Forge purely because the Fabric version has tons of work on top of it for Fabric, that Kilt could never replicate.
@PieManXD
@PieManXD Ай бұрын
jeez, people are too much. Your saying is like, “As beneficial having friends is, the point of enemies was to make people realize their insecurities and this would prevent it” and blah blah blah. If Kilt wasn’t in Alpha, and that you would’ve tried it, then your point would make sense. But no, kilt is in alpha, and your writing also says “this just seems bad and would produce lag though I haven’t tested it” which isn’t helpful whatsoever
@HuzaBird0.2
@HuzaBird0.2 2 ай бұрын
It used to be somting simular before. 😊
@padnarr
@padnarr 2 ай бұрын
would you be able to join forge modded servers on fabric :O
@margerlosandoval9140
@margerlosandoval9140 Ай бұрын
No Indium?
@gamerakram2023
@gamerakram2023 2 ай бұрын
3:49 me too
@AxoIsAxo
@AxoIsAxo 2 ай бұрын
Would this run on mohist then...
@BluSpringg
@BluSpringg 2 ай бұрын
I don't think Kilt would like Mohist, but Banner does exist from the same dev team. Kilt does try really hard to not break other Fabric mods.
@enderteck3273
@enderteck3273 2 ай бұрын
There is no need to use Fabric as a base anymore, Sodium, Iris and Lithium are released for NeoForge now and you can just use sinytra connector (which is more stable) for all the other fabric mods.
@GTB-YT
@GTB-YT 2 ай бұрын
Is it possible to run Sinytra Connector on Fabric using KiltMC or KiltMC on Forge using Sinytra Connector?
@BluSpringg
@BluSpringg 2 ай бұрын
@@GTB-YT Loading Kilt under Connector _might_ work, though it would most definitely crash almost instantly. Loading Connector under Kilt on the other hand would explode, because Kilt doesn't have the mod loading systems that Connector uses, it does its own thing
@CloudyDreamzs
@CloudyDreamzs 2 ай бұрын
Would wither storm work? 😮
@MintyMan_
@MintyMan_ 2 ай бұрын
Not yet. Maybe one day
@CactusOSisReal
@CactusOSisReal 2 ай бұрын
using kilt mc to install synitra connector to install fabric mods
@mine_blame
@mine_blame 2 ай бұрын
ty
@LustronPlenty
@LustronPlenty 2 ай бұрын
Is there a server software which can run spigot plugins and fabric mods? Plssss telll
@BluSpringg
@BluSpringg 2 ай бұрын
There is actually three of them - Arclight, Banner and Cardboard.
@LustronPlenty
@LustronPlenty 2 ай бұрын
@@BluSpringg thanks but do they support spigot plugins and fabric mods?
@LustronPlenty
@LustronPlenty 2 ай бұрын
@@BluSpringg could u please send the link
@BluSpringg
@BluSpringg 2 ай бұрын
I can't send links here, but just look them up on Google, like "Arclight Minecraft" and such
@CERISTHEDEV
@CERISTHEDEV 2 ай бұрын
Ok but Quick questions Fabric mods are supported on quilt Quilt mods arent supported on fabriv Forge mods are (sometimes) supported by neo forge Neo forge mods arent supported by forge *WHY?*
@sillythewanderer4221
@sillythewanderer4221 2 ай бұрын
Quilt is basically an expansion to fabric, so mods made using the parts of quilt that are not in fabric are incompatible. Neoforge is basically forge but without one of the main devs who was a pretty bad project manager, so at times neoforge made different decisions than forge, but the basis is still the same, and forge just kinda does whatever.
@ZedDevStuff
@ZedDevStuff 24 күн бұрын
NeoForge since 1.21 is reworking how it works to make the experience better for devs, along with optimizations and making stuff more clear, which is why it's not compatible with Forge anymore
@TheStiflergm
@TheStiflergm 2 ай бұрын
Is it just me, or his voice sounds similar to @EpicNate ?
@suntannedduck2388
@suntannedduck2388 2 ай бұрын
From Patchwork of some Forge mods on Fabric 1.14.4/1.16.5 to Forgeworks that was kind of similar to seeing Forgified Fabric API, Sinytra Connector/Connector Extras and that range of things. To in the Legacy Fabric side of things Fabricated Rift, Forge, Modloader. To now KiltMC for modern versions with Forge/Fabric there has been a lot of cool bridging the gap type modloader projects out there. Besides Intermediaqry (1.2.5 Forge on 1.7.10) and APortingCore (1.8 Forge on 1.7.10) as brief projects.
@BluSpringg
@BluSpringg 2 ай бұрын
Fabricated Legacy Forge was actually what made me realize Kilt was possible! Without knowing about that mod's existence, it probably would've taken much longer for me to begin Kilt.
@RealHitmanGG
@RealHitmanGG 2 ай бұрын
ikr it is so cool
@KasaiSora
@KasaiSora 2 ай бұрын
It reallyyy is!
@Numchx
@Numchx Ай бұрын
This support geysermc ?
@gamerakram2023
@gamerakram2023 2 ай бұрын
btw 1.21.2 released
@demirgokler3227
@demirgokler3227 2 ай бұрын
Create?
@DewandaArya
@DewandaArya 2 ай бұрын
finally
@parinuser
@parinuser 2 ай бұрын
I NEED THIS!!! I actually wanted both ways (which are now fulfilled) which I love!!
@someone4229
@someone4229 2 ай бұрын
There's honestly not much of a point of this as a fabric user
@ChickLive
@ChickLive 2 ай бұрын
I love your videos make another tutorial for aternos
@KasaiSora
@KasaiSora 2 ай бұрын
Thanks so much. And I’ll note it ❤️
@ChickLive
@ChickLive 2 ай бұрын
@@KasaiSora Ty for commenting, I never got a comment from such a KZbinr like yourself. Thanks man.
@indigoviolet_
@indigoviolet_ 2 ай бұрын
YES! YES! PLEASE LET THIS EXIST!
@Teacup44
@Teacup44 2 ай бұрын
un-sinytra connecter
@nega-guy
@nega-guy 2 ай бұрын
yes
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