Running 4 Keyboards(and click tracks) Using ONLY my iPhone!😱

[@oswaldomartinez1274]

God bless you John! What a wonderful video! One quick tip though: I would consider buying the newer version of the camera kit, the 'Lightning to USB 3 Camera Adapter' because it charges your device while using the different apps connected to the keyboards. I use a similar setup to this as well!

[@robr471]

I tried it with camera kit the charging port, and it will periodically trigger additional key strikes, not always but every 10 to 15 minutes while playing I'll hear an additional note played when my fingers were not on the keys. I thought it was the midi controller, or the app but then tried multiple apps (sampletank, garage band, Korg module) and same thing would happen, I then tried it with my m-audio and novation controller and the same thing. I upgraded the noname camera/charging adapter to an official apple adapter and it happens less frequent but it wasn't till I noticed that your phone was not charging at the time that you did these presentations that I tried unplugging my phone charger and it seems to have corrected the problem. Just figured I'd share this if anyone else is experiencing this issue. Thanks for the videos.

[@allenscheer5014]

Brilliant and inspirational... I love it when Christian musicians are on the cutting edge!

[@Composeyourselfcare]

My keyboard recently broke.. super helpful and inspiring to find your videos!! Thank you.

[@ReneKnuvers74rk]

Thank you very much John for sharing this. I hope some app developers pick this up and come with a wrapper app concept that allows for "workstation like" capabilities to have program changes/easy changes of sounds, layers and splits and possibly effects? I think four boards opens up a way of possibilities to have multiple sounds going, but a single or dual board set up should allow for easy changes of sounds too. Thinking of that: have you considered using the features found on some master keyboards to send program changes and configure layers to actually have different apps running over the keyboard? Would require each app to have its own midi channel, but would very well be feasible. Keep up the good work! Enjoying your videos from the Netherlands, Europe.

[@Johnmike]

+Rene Knuvers awesome idea I'll have to try this out!

[@thejoelsmithproject]

Again, some really creative thinking good brother! When I saw the first vid, I thought about the unused hub ports. Keep up the good work!

[@Johnmike]

Joel Smith thanks!

[@zoeboifresh1000]

Thanks for showing the setup man. I am going to invest in this.

[@drizneyland2886]

Just discovered your channel -- thank you so much for sharing your knowledge. It is truly a blessing. I am excited to try this out!

[@mbrandon8026]

John Mike - Not sure it is dope but for us older folks it's pretty cool. I have been enjoying my iPad with MKS, Korg Module etc. but have had serious latency challenges. Seeing this I am pretty sure that the problem is a result of my hardware, using a 20 year old Korg N264, and standard midi cables, with their low transfer rate. If you can run 4 devices using USB connections on an older iPhone, then I should be back in business when my Novation Launchkey 61 arrives soon. Thanks for you great work. God Bless You Michael Brandon

[@Johnmike]

Michael Brandon yup!

[@derekwhite7247]

VERY NICE, JM! New Jack Swing meets Gospel!

[@disienna]

Love it John Mike! My man

[@demetricelyles5317]

That is awesome man/I tried it with one keyboard but I will try it with two boards until I get up to four. That’s for teaching this and keep up the good work my brother. Before I saw this I was thinking of getting modules/now all I need to buy are the softsynths and two more controllers 61 keys

[@royualika7702]

You are a whole different level bro! Thank you for the vids, so inspirational. Blessings

[@dimitriadishappydog]

I'm eager to to this but i got to buy an older iphone, cause the newer ones have no mic out. Is the 6plus still relevant for today's iOS vst's? Does newer iphone modes do this combination of USB hub to multiple keys? I love your Chanel BTW

[@soulinspiration1]

I am just discovering your videos!! This is freakin' awesome!! I just setup my first software instrument small rig and had a little latency. You have zero latency. So, I went took a look at mine after watching your videos. I was able to figure out what was causing the latency. I was listening via wireless headphones (I live with others who aren't musicians). I switched to wired ones and boom no more latency. You unintentionally solved my problem!!

[@Johnmike]

Dope!

[@lheath5682]

could you please do.mainstage patches similar.to.the sounds you playing in this video? please love it

[@tonytenace62]

Hey man this is a sweet setup, but I don’t have I phone 6 anymore I use an 8plus with lightning only. Would this work with a different camera connection adapter? One with usb and 1/8 mini and lightning charger port?

[@robr471]

I swear John Mike is a genius

[@lourbentv485]

Hi Sir John Mike. Thanks for this video.

[@Johnmike]

+lourben ejaugnil your welcome!

[@senzodlamini3742]

Hey Mike, nice work mate thank you for the videos. I am considering buying an iPad Air 1st generation bcoz am low on budget. Would you recommend it for running a setup like this one?

[@Johnmike]

Sihle Dlamini yup I use my iPad Air as well..does just as good as the iPhone

[@BMUSIQP]

This was dope!!!

[@adz19751]

This is great, thanks for sharing!

[@vohehuli]

Yet again, excellent video bro!!!! Is there anyway to get a split function set up with your iPhone?

[@Johnmike]

vohehuli yes there is I'm working on a video for that...

[@adnjanabasuki8023]

Good Job man. God bless You

[@theaudioeng]

.... Super insane there John!! It's amazing really isn't it? 😎👍🎹🎶

[@Johnmike]

Yup!

[@dboyko86]

Thank a for the inspiration! Do you have to run multiple apps when using multiple keyboard/controllers for different sounds? Is it possible to use multiple keyboards, each with a different sound, using the same app?

[@tyniddy23]

Yes it's possible to do that..just have to go into ur midi settings and assign each keyboard to whichever sound u want it to have

[@gregaltenhofel7326]

So, it was only yesterday that you or one of your prescribers subscribers told me how to get just the synthesizer sound out of my iPad and not the voice From the Yamaha P125 at the same time. I was told just turn the volume down. BAM WOW that worked. So excited. Now I know this video is three years old. But I only found you a few days ago on KZbin. And you are telling me with One iPad I can use multiple keyboards and get different voices from each? I am going back to watch this again. Mostly to see if you used more than one program or it had to be a single program to be able to control more than one keyboard. Btw my 2nd & only other keyboard I have is a Clavinova 330M perhaps M330.

[@gregaltenhofel7326]

Seems you are running different synth programs for the different keyboard midi controller wow

[@Johnmike]

If you think that’s something check this out! kzbin.info/www/bejne/r5aXmop8br18i7s

[@ewheel1629]

John Mike I have a PowerBook G4 with a version of garage band do you know of any older software that might work for live performances and church with the G4 looking for some updated sounds.

[@Johnmike]

+Edward Williams III that G4 is going to be way to old for use

[@curtish9911]

dope video man, question though, do you guys just move the pulpit to the side and play basketball in the church after services?

[@Johnmike]

Curtis H lol I wish..naa but their are days where we break it all down and have game days...lot of work lol

[@ChevonneReynolds]

Awesomeness personified!

[@brunogaeta4091]

Very neat. What sample buffer values do you use for the apps? In my case with the default buffer sizes on my iPad (256 samples) the playing feels sluggish because of latency. 128 samples is better but I can only use one app before getting pops and clicks. 64 samples is unusable even with one app because of pops and clicks. I use a Korg plugkey into an iPad mini Core A7

[@Johnmike]

+Bruno Gaeta if have to go look but it's on whatever the default setting is...I've never really messed with my buffer settings...but the iPad mini 1st gen is getting a bit "long in the tooth" for things like this

[@edfritz1569]

Thanks so much bro!! I purchased a few of these iPhone apps and really love that fact that I can do this. You helped me out a lot (learning how to hook everything up, your reviews, etc.)! I love that fact that I bought a $6 Fender Rhodes Mark 1 and it's better than any of my current keyboards. lol I love all of them except for Ravenscroft. Sounds like it's under water or something. Maybe cause I'm running it mono? IDK. Anyway, God bless you!!

[@pianomatheus]

Thanks for sharing this. thumbs up

[@devonking9586]

What kit do you typically use in iMaschine ? (Praise, Worship, Devotion..etc.)

[@Johnmike]

Devon King I have my own kit with my own samples that I've loaded in...I sell the samples on my website dynamicsmusic.net

[@SriharshaaPrabhakar]

Great Stuff !!! Unbelievable

[@alentzkim1]

Great job brother in Christ from Montreal Canada. I have one question I'm very interested to buy the apps ifretless bass but I don't know if I'm gonna be able to use it with my midi controller how to do it please thanks

[@Johnmike]

+mewi mezanmi once you connect it the controller will show up inside the app under settings...and you should just be able to start playing

[@beatz04]

Thanks ! 2 questions though: 1) The way you've set it up, the iPhone can't be charged while being connected to the keys, can it ? 2) You're calling the iMaschine beat a "click track" but is it really ? As i don't see a way how you could get the audio out seperately in order to hear it on your monitors/headphones but not FOH.

[@Johnmike]

1. The adapter I used in this video was the older one apple made...the newest one actually has a charge port on it as well... 2. In gospel we commonly refer to the “drum loop” as a “click track” as it serves the purpose for us staying on time like a metronome would...so with the loop there is really no need to route it separate because it’s going to the house and it’s going to our ears and it’s keeping us on time...now when I run stems or multitracks I route the metronome click to my ears only...I have another vid somewhere on this channel showing how I do that

[@IVANLEEespinosa]

God bless you brother!!!

[@rolfjohansen5376]

that means no sounds from the keyboards , only from the phone

[@xavierhernandez1111]

Try Korg Gadget!!! You can live loop with it

[@Johnmike]

+Xavier Hernández I’ve been meaning to check it out just haven’t had free time to download it!

[@yesayam.a.adijaya4751]

That's cool John! By the way, have you ever tried running 2 or more keyboards but using only 1 app? I want to know if you can run multi channel midi at the same time. I'm new in regards to midi controller and on tight budget for multiple apps. I've heard a little about audiobus and AUM apps, but I'm curious if you can play it straight without audiobus or AUM. Thanks!

[@Johnmike]

Yesaya M.A. Adijaya hadn't really tried it yet honestly...but I'm not really sure of any app out there that will let you do that...I will research soon and if I find something I'll definitely do a video on it

[@DavidCobb2011]

Yesaya M.A. Adijaya Hi, I have Sample Tank, and in ‘Multi’ mode, you get 8 positions where you can add any sound from its library - and assign each one... a different midi channel, a keyboard note range, volume, pan, effects, and more. You can save individual setups etc. It is very powerful. I have a single keyboard with a ‘multi’ that has bass on the first octave, then layered piano and pad up higher. My keyboard also has pads, so I assigned drum sounds to them. Look up Sample Tank Multis on KZbin. There’s a great couple of videos. Good luck. :-)

[@yesayam.a.adijaya4751]

Hi David, thanks for your feedback. I also have Sample Tank but I probably skip the multi mode. I will surely check it :)

[@msj103105]

hey John are you controlling each board (volume) with the mixer or is it done another way

[@Johnmike]

With the volume sliders on each of the boards...had them midi mapped to control the volumes in the apps

[@RoLays85]

Will I still b able to use these features along with my Yamaha MOX8???

[@Johnmike]

RoLays85 yes

[@KavaRouse]

Hi John, do you power your keyboards using power adapters?

[@Johnmike]

The only one that was powered by an adapter was the Williams 88key one...the others are powered by a powered USB hub

[@tarcisiobatera6091]

Hi John! Thanks for posting! You mentioned you use an iPhone 6, does it not work on a 6s ? Also, would you know if it would work with a Novation Impulse 61, since it is usb powered? I contacted Novation's support and they told me I "may run into powering issues". They could not tell me for sure if a powered usb hub would work. Thanks! Keep it up

[@Johnmike]

+arabra omarabra yes it will work with the 6S(which is what I️ currently have) and yes the impulse should work with a power adapter for the impulse or with a powered usb hub

[@tarcisiobatera6091]

John Mike thanks 😀

[@Roboprogs]

If milliamps provided by hub > milliamps required by controller, you win. I have to use a powered hub for my Akai Mini, or iOS simply shuts it down as too hungry. My Keystation 49 ES (just like in the vid) works w/out the hub, just off the camera kit, though.

[@francoancan7392]

Hi Bro! How many GB use these apps? Is neccesary too much storage memory? greetings from Chile!

[@Johnmike]

+Franco Ancan not that much! I'm using them on a 64gb iPhone tho...

[@davidraj61]

Mind blowing !

[@CMane]

Dope! John Mike, I have a question. I've been using my iPhone 6 and 7 interchangeably, running 2 apps simultaneously (MKSensation and Korg Module... sometimes, Korg Gadget). When it all works, it goes off without a hitch. But... here's where my issue comes in. I'll be playing and randomly...out of nowhere... the most high pitched, annoying sound (similar to digital feedback) comes out of nowhere! I then have to kill my volume or get to the panic button as quickly as possible so I don't lose my job! lol I LOVE the ease and convenience of iOS. It was GREAT while it lasted but, after having this issue a couple times, unfortunately, i've had to shut that setup down. I use a Korg PlugKey as audio/MIDI interface. Have you ever heard of this type of thing happening or what it could possibly be? 🤔

[@Johnmike]

+KeezOfLife sorry for the delayed response I've been in and out of town the last week or so and I'm just now getting to sit down and answer questions....I'm really not too sure...the issue sounds like it might be with the interface possibly? But still not totally sure there...I've never had this issue...I would try it with a different audio interface and see how that works...

[@CMane]

No worries man. I went back and troubleshot again. I'm using a Yamaha Motif XS8 as my controller. The 'high-pitched' sound I was hearing was actually one note stuck in a high range playing through the MK...like a note-on malfunction. The keyboard itself is in good, working condition, with no sticky notes. I then tapped the panic button on MK and it stopped. I notice that it happens mostly if I move any of the 8 faders up or down on the Motif. I'll be moving them freely...and all of a sudden...weeeeeeeee....note-on malfunction out of nowhere. Hit the panic. So, something in the Motif is triggering something in the MKSensation and causing this to happen. I just can't figure out what it may be. I'll try another interface and see what happens. Thanks

[@fernsehdesign]

5 years later. I am wondering if this still works. In my experience there must have been some change in what Apple sees as „compliant“. What do I mean? My usb-to-5-Pin-adapter and a USB-Midicable are not recognized anymore as they used to be. Talking the step from iPhone 5 to an iPhone 8 and within that the update to iOS15. Which also included the missing earphone-plug.. But maybe I just have to keep buying the latest of everything all the time..

[@oyeyemioyelere9193]

great job. how do you control your volume

[@Johnmike]

oyeyemi oyelere I have an app I use called AUM...I got a video coming on it soon

[@tyronecrawford7245]

awesome!!! what kind of hub is that again?

[@Johnmike]

Tyrone Crawford just a generic one from best buy

[@tyronecrawford7245]

Thanks...I gotta get one. I'm in the process of building my virtual rig. I mostly use mksensation and I have iPad 2, but I'm gonna purchase the other apps. Is there a way to split sounds?

[@baumdeswissens]

God bless you !!

[@Zaskar1978]

Don't forget to turn on airplane mode before the concert starts! HaHa.

[@Johnmike]

+Zaskar yup! Lol

[@tonylancer7367]

You make me wanna buy an iPhone just because it can do this.

[@PaulsonJeanty]

Awesome

[@lalhmingmawiaralte3968]

any latency problem sir

[@Johnmike]

No

[@romualdkinimo1004]

Which 88keys midi controller would you recommand based on the keybed action?

[@Johnmike]

I really like my Williams Allegro 2...doesn’t have a pitch or modulation wheel tho

[@romualdkinimo1004]

John Mike thx b blessd

[@Mr1barfield]

Is there a way to split sounds using different apps on your iPhone?????

[@Johnmike]

Yes...just have to set the key range in the different apps...some let you do it..and some don’t

[@JesusvOrtiz]

What mixer are you using bro?

[@Johnmike]

JesusvOrtiz link is in the description

[@stephanieadavison]

Do you have any solutions to get audio out to the mains if you have an iPhone 7 (no headphone jack)?

[@Johnmike]

Stephanie A. Davison yes you need to use an audio interface...

[@stephanieadavison]

Okay. Thanks!

[@audiblevideo]

You could try Korg 5-Pin MIDI to Lightning for iOS with 1/4" Stereo Audio Outputs and optional USB Charging www.guitarcenter.com/Korg/5-Pin-MIDI-to-Lightning-Interface-for-iOS-with-1-4-Stereo-Audio-Outputs-and-optional-USB-Charging.gc

[@CMane]

audiblevideo Yup! Korg PlugKey is my go-to for use with iOS music prod. apps.

[@coreyscott9101]

John Mike should you use an interface regardless? Is it better audio than the headphone jack?

[@edrumsense]

4 Keyb 1 Phone ... That sounds explicit xD

[@chrisharrison809]

This is dope

[@ericksoncastillo8053]

Sir are you connecting it to the prison us?

[@Johnmike]

If you mean “presonus” then no I’m not in this video

[@bluesky2145]

Is there an email where I can ask you a couple of quick questions please?

[@edstud1]

Nice!

[@jamessango7439]

Mind blowing 😱😱😱😱😱😱😱

[@victorhoyos6288]

weher i can buy the usb hot or conector my friend?

[@Johnmike]

Link should be in the description of the video

[@victorhoyos6288]

THANKS i was looking for this information

[@edrock26]

Juan Miguel, this is still hot here in 2024!

[@Johnmike]

lol wow 😂

[@davidrendon1737]

Yuh 🔥🔥🔥

[@Johnmike]

+David Rendon thanks!

[@tooomasz]

"kinda piano... And a brass kinda thing kinda goin"

[@tooomasz]

I still loved the video though!!!

[@robertsteinberger5667]

I wonder how long a full iphone battery lasts this way

[@joegar7002]

There is no way u can run that ..Thanks!man

[@JamesThompson97]

You can run 4 keyboards and a click track, yet Samsung's "Professional Audio SDK" which has "zero latency" lags with just one keyboard on an S7. Crazy.

[@danielmanik9446]

Just use iPhone no lags. Nice 😂

[@atereolusola2497]

The only thing lacking is optimization from andriod, I am sure they can run it.

[@JamesThompson97]

@@atereolusola2497 nope, same old story with the S20, 2 years later. I will be moving to iPhone and not turning back.

[@micknificent]

I’m watching this on an iPhone 15 Pro Max in 2023 and wondering what’s possible today.