RandomGamingHD: 28 FPS, low settings at 1024×768 *not bad* BitWit: 50 FPS, Medium-High at 1080p *good!* LinusTechtips: 119 FPS, Utra setting at 4k *literally unplayable!*
@deadchannel71937 жыл бұрын
Linus : 144fps 8k ultra . I DEMAND 300FPS ! RELEASE THE TITANS!
@emmanuelbaah32537 жыл бұрын
lol
@pepeiann7 жыл бұрын
TheExplosiveSpai 300fps is litteraly not needed linus is so stupid
@deadchannel71937 жыл бұрын
I know thats why i wrote it :D
@pepeiann7 жыл бұрын
TheExplosiveSpai yeah I didn't mean to tag u in it lol
@BudgetBuildsOfficial7 жыл бұрын
For GTA V it seemingly runs way below its system requirements... but the HD4XXX never got the 15.2 Catalyst Drivers which can result in heavy stuttering if you don't run custom drivers. Other than that as long as low is targeting 720p 30Fps (the minimum usually considered playable) then I'm fine with them using minimum spec as that.
@farsattack26877 жыл бұрын
Budget-Builds Official For GTA 5 it run really well, where are talking about 2008 hardware with a 2015 game open world, its near the release of the PS3 and XBOX 360, GTA 5 is compared with Watch Dogs 2 now, but Watch Dogs 2 is a really bad optimized games compared to GTA 5. No games will surpass GTA 5 for a lot of years in optimization. Also the games on a 4:3 screen will look better than 16:9 with 720p ( I use a 4:3 screen for newer games who can't run at a decent quality on my HD6450 )
@Venylynn7 жыл бұрын
Fars Attack Except for the fact that GTA V used to stutter all the fucking time for me on much higher system specs than RG tested.
@Sceptonic7 жыл бұрын
Agent Deathbat Thats happening to me do you know how to fix it?
@ItsSahendra7 жыл бұрын
hey I picked up an iPhone 7 from roadside, if it's yours then contact me so I can get the charger.
@MunchaGeorge7 жыл бұрын
?!
@AWESOMESMILEYFACE7 жыл бұрын
WTF?!?!
@skelejum83707 жыл бұрын
Sahendra Mallick Idk either
@tremboline4797 жыл бұрын
+AWESOME SF its a joke
@frazarshad58217 жыл бұрын
first original sounding joke i've read on youtube in in a while
@chefmike81777 жыл бұрын
ARK Survival's optimisation is worse than the GTA 4 PC port. and that's saying something.
@chobbs33845 жыл бұрын
In the 2 years it's changed alot.
@younglingslayer28965 жыл бұрын
@@chobbs3384 hasnt really had much performance optimization b
@coenjor84424 жыл бұрын
Chobbs the optimisation really sucks
@scaredelmo21733 жыл бұрын
One time my friend who just started ark said he experienced a bunch of glitches and my response was "welcome to ark!"
@burny66667 жыл бұрын
I've worked for years as a video game tester. The problem with system requirements is there is no industry standards for PC. Some companies will use the bear minimum in order for the software to boot, while other will use different standards. Most of the time, when I worked as compatibility tester, clients asked us to verify what hardware a system needed to have an average of at least 30FPS, with no drops lower than 15FPS when using the lowest setting to set the minimum system requirement. While recommended system requirements was at least 30FPS, with no drops below 15FPS when using max settings. Some other clients simply asked us to verify which hardware you needed to boot the game, no matter if the game was playable or not.
@moessie90037 жыл бұрын
you make videos we need but no other KZbinr think of
@abbasraza24937 жыл бұрын
Minimum system requirements: low spec gamer
@VDMWM7 жыл бұрын
Abbas Raza Who needs a good computer if you can tweak things
@UkLiCKoNMe7 жыл бұрын
nice video again, first time i see somebody testing these min specs. until today ive only seen one game stating its minimums were meant to play tje game at 720p, 30fps... wish to see more doing like this
@SenpaiKillerFire7 жыл бұрын
gaming with a potato
@billymarella29047 жыл бұрын
SenpaiKillerFire too expensive
@pepeiann7 жыл бұрын
a potato can almost run gta 5 try running hmmm counter strike source
@brori20396 жыл бұрын
0h shut up... my pc can't even play flash games in browser. XD
@Tony_Man7 жыл бұрын
most Silver CSGO players play lower than the game's minimum requirements edit: remove comp
@jaysonfred83137 жыл бұрын
Tony ManFlash I'm silver 3 and play with GTX 1060 :(((
@dcerty18987 жыл бұрын
Jaysonfred I am silver 4 but I struggle getting over 60 fps on 800x1200 something
@jaysonfred83137 жыл бұрын
James Smith I'm top of leaderboards every game but trolls always ruin it :( I should be silver elite master atleast.
@jaysonfred83137 жыл бұрын
James Smith what rank are you?
@jaysonfred83137 жыл бұрын
James Smith maybe then. I just want to be matched with people who know how to play, and don't just afk in spawn or something like that.
@00Klingon7 жыл бұрын
My friend plays ark at low settings on an old 15" MacBook Pro at 15 FPS average.
@ShawnMeira7 жыл бұрын
Klingon00 you dont play games on a mac. thats not how it works
@Nabekukka7 жыл бұрын
Your friend seems to possess an incredible amount of patience and internal fortitude to withstand that kind of performance.
@michalzustak88467 жыл бұрын
In the 90s people commonly played games at 15 fps. The only reason why people obsess over bull like 120 vs 250 fps is the glacial pace of hardware development. At that time, minimum requirements just meant the executable would run.
@exoltik31997 жыл бұрын
@Petri Helenius That's how I had to play Skyrim for a while until I built my own machine and slapped in a graphics card. Couldn't do anything with the all-in-one unless I wanted to strip the machine for all the parts.
@ShawnMeira7 жыл бұрын
Ethereal Psyche you can only really get a good all in one kind of thing if you buy a well priced desktop and just slap a graphics card like the 750Ti in there
@stephenmartinez17 жыл бұрын
My definition of minimum system requirements is not simply starting the game. It's the minimum hardware needed to run the game at what would be considered playable. Like the gt 730 can run the witcher 3 wild hunt at 720p with the minimum settings and get around 25-35fps, that's the very low end of what would be considered playable.
@kingjakewolf53487 жыл бұрын
Nice video dude! I hope you keep uploading videos :)
@longarmsshow7 жыл бұрын
"my big bag of cpu's" *actually has a bag full of cpu's* For a second I thought you were joking. Well done.
@Aymannnnnnnn7 жыл бұрын
how do u get all this hardware ? u put so much effort to bring these vids to life , I love it
@GiorgosKoukoubagia7 жыл бұрын
Nice video! Do the same with the 'recommended' requirements. Some devs even state what to expect in blog posts, like "with this PC you should get 45 fps in 1080p medium", so you can see if they're saying the truth~
@StaelTek7 жыл бұрын
battlefield 1 was the worst minimum reguirements. they claim you need a 6600K and a GTX 660. i have prove in my channel that even a HD 5770/GT 730 GPU's can run it just fine. and i am fairly confident that even a Core 2 Quad or 1st gen Core i5 750 will get the job done more than fine.
@kristian123nice7 жыл бұрын
you should start using msi afterburner to see fps and turn stuff like cpu and gpu percentage on
@Elusivehawk7 жыл бұрын
Kristian Anton Hedegaard Agreed. I want to know if ARK we being bottlenecked by the CPU, GPU, or both.
@astheworldlearns7 жыл бұрын
really informative. never tried to play on the minimum requirements before, but I do know that some games recommended requirements are only enough to play 1080p on minimum
@Retrodan6807 жыл бұрын
this is a really good concept, I would love to see more of these minimum spec videos
@Johny40Se7en Жыл бұрын
Brilliant. It'd be great if you could do a refreshed version of this with newer games, one being Mechwarrior 5, but also include a set up which you'd recommend people to use on the cheap for the various games that could save people money. Like you said, sometimes, they state some bad or unrealistic specifications.
@rogoznicafc96727 жыл бұрын
Finally i was waiting for that video for ages, thanks!
@Formalite7 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for a video like this to come out
@ultrademigod7 жыл бұрын
That was a blast from the not too distant past. I had a PowerColor HD4870 for around 4 years, and I have to say it was a good card, with a fairly long lifespan.
@KhaosInductionCreator3 жыл бұрын
If I ever make a AAA game, I want it to have settings that allow people running on Lemons to be able to play it at a good fps. It would change stuff games normally don't, like removing shadows, removing all deformation if any, reducing grass/building count, allow them to set custom resolution in-game instead of in the files, etc.
@Thesuddentornado7 жыл бұрын
Just want to say, i Really like your videos. There very imformative and let you know exactly want you want to know. you've really helped me with my decision to move to PC gaming. You've earned a subcriber for life. Thanks man
@akselikivinen2867 жыл бұрын
This is literally the best channel I'm subscribed to. Thank you for these videos.
@RandomGaminginHD7 жыл бұрын
+some guy thanks :)
@lukasimic46467 жыл бұрын
i ran overwatch on grandparents computer with 25-28 fps ...computer is way below the minimum requirements
@LittleCloudYT7 жыл бұрын
Gross OW
@iTzKomplett7 жыл бұрын
great video dude
@teknoman1177 жыл бұрын
man i remember drooling over that exact model of the radeon hd 3870 you showed back in 2007...
@winterloggan7 жыл бұрын
Damn dude, it must've taken a lot of work to source and test all of that hardware. Nicely done
@3D1ofakind7 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the effort you put in this video
@holyice127 жыл бұрын
Love you're videos keep it up for budget parts
@Endranii7 жыл бұрын
RandomGaminginHD The thing that you should mention is that actually some dev's are stating what the minimum req is supposed to give us. Some are going to say that this is the bare minimum to run the game while some actually have a note that the minimum specs will allow you to play at this and this setting's while maintaining at least 30fps throughout the whole game. So just looking at the minimum setting is not enough you also have to look what the minimum specs are supposed to give you performance wise.
@CarbyGuuGuu2 жыл бұрын
This continues to age well following A Plague Tale: Requiem and Gotham Knights
@Obie3277 жыл бұрын
thanks for the interesting video Random Gaming HD. I try to wring out as much performance from slowest machines.
@treyparker22737 жыл бұрын
Great video man, I'm sure it took a lot of time to set all these up!
@Gaboc_7 жыл бұрын
You think a ryzen 1600 and a rx 580 is the best combo for 1080p gaming/streaming?
@RandomGaminginHD7 жыл бұрын
Scorcha that is a nice build, would be a great match :)
@stavex2457 жыл бұрын
Scorcha very solid build its perfect no bottlenecks or stuff like that
@byXDP7 жыл бұрын
absolutely
@DragoFTWTM7 жыл бұрын
Scorcha actually more like 1440p
@lilvirtt35777 жыл бұрын
rx 480 would be better, smaller tdp for almost same clocks.
@aul0s7 жыл бұрын
Nice to see the 7870 running Witcher 3 so well. That's a pretty good result for a card that wasn't even the from the best chip series AMD was offering at that time 5 years ago.
@SlAyEr257 жыл бұрын
Great content, also liked due to the effort you put in :)
@rasputin83627 жыл бұрын
nice video ,I always wanted to do that will seeing minimum system requirement.
@jukeboxcc58397 жыл бұрын
Ey. You're pretty cool. First time I've seen one of your videos. Not bad.
@LostOnThePianoRoll7 жыл бұрын
I've been wondering for years.. thank you fine man
@dimsy81995 жыл бұрын
Ps4 = low settings Xbox one = medium setting Ps4 pro = high setting Xbox one x = ultra setting
@TheRealBleach7 жыл бұрын
Can you make a £500 PC Build???
@EirinaiosCharizonas7 жыл бұрын
The Real Bleach G4560 or r3 and rx 470/570
@Ilya-ck4oc7 жыл бұрын
ryzen 1400 + rx 470/570
@SpikeTheBear7 жыл бұрын
Is that even out?
@Zestyclose-Big31277 жыл бұрын
Used 3770 (maybe 3470?) pre-built + 1050ti? (or a few others - not sure at hat point a PSU swap would be a really great idea)
@OnlyTheRob7 жыл бұрын
Check Facebook marketplace for deals, I got a 4 month old PC with strix GTX 1060 and i5-6400 for £500
@nemanjajolic77877 жыл бұрын
Love your videos😍 Can u make a video about your setup and your all equipment.
@arthodart47127 жыл бұрын
eyyy I'm rocking the 7870 that I picked up for $50! nice to see the card in the spotlight.
@steamedauroraborealis82087 жыл бұрын
Ark has such ridiculous requirements. The game is a "little" more optimized now, but back in the day I built a computer for someone who mainly wanted to play ark. I put an FX 6300, 8 gigs of ram, and r9 270x. These was way, way, wayyy above the minimum requirements so I figure he could run it without issue. He baaarely scraped by. I'm sure that same system could run it better today, but back when it was released it was near impossible.
@JPOG7TV7 жыл бұрын
I didn't expect Witcher to run at such high frame rates with those requirements.
@neutronium95427 жыл бұрын
I would love it if you could do Scrapyard Wars with Linus Tech Tips. I know that the logistics would be difficult, but it would be a cool show.
@miitch997 жыл бұрын
This was a great idea! :P
@furbees26627 жыл бұрын
more of this! this is good
@GUYANESEGT7 жыл бұрын
you're channel is awesome.
@RandomGaminginHD7 жыл бұрын
samus aran thanks :)
@worldpeace38017 жыл бұрын
I have always looked for this type of video never found one u god
@Salt-Upon-Wound7 жыл бұрын
You make the best videos
@Oligampla7 жыл бұрын
This video reminds me of 2008 when i tried to play Crysis and Far Cry 2 at the lowest settings with ATI Radeon 9800, 512 MB RAM and a very slow Intel CPU which name i can't even remember 😀
@sburton0157 жыл бұрын
I know something like Mass Effect Andromeda's minimum system requirements calls for an AMD fx6350 cpu, but I only have an fx 6300, but it seems to run fine on my system in 1080p with medium to high settings. So yeah, I found that most games will even run on PCs that are slightly below their minimum system requirements. I guess these days, the system requirements are actually more like whats recommended for best performance and decent quality.
@KindOldRaven7 жыл бұрын
I always took the recommended specs as minimal specs to be safe when I was younger. These days there's benchmarks usually before or ON the day of launch so I just check those... I also noticed that there's times where my GPU doesn't hit recommended specs... yet ran the game at high with 80+ fps on average which made me go ''eh... overestimated your own game?''.
@FatheredPuma817 жыл бұрын
If you use the fairy decent sized list of launch options you can probably get ARK to play at 30 FPS.
@dnh30055 жыл бұрын
Flying a plane close to the ground in gta v (especially in a busy area) will bring back fps a lot.
@artakd7 жыл бұрын
I had better system requirements then the minimum requirements of 7 days to die, i turned all the settings down and i got 7 fps. Well played
@rushnerd7 жыл бұрын
Games of this generation went from min spec GTX 460 (lowest tier gtx card with DX11) to Gtx 660 and higher pretty fast. Seems like there was a huge stretch of time the 9800 was always the min spec card; but these days it's more inconsistent.
@pep30017 жыл бұрын
now THIS is a video youtube needed
@pep30017 жыл бұрын
can you do more videos of this featuring different games, turn this into a series?
@Anderhils7 жыл бұрын
i play just cause 3 with radeon r7 250 1gb and its totaly playable
@Terracraft3217 жыл бұрын
Anderhils proof?
@Anderhils7 жыл бұрын
with playable i mean around 40fps on 720p. Too lazy to prove every little thing i say on internet. Believe it or not, your choice! Have a great day my friend! *8gb ram, athlon x4 760k .
@Terracraft3217 жыл бұрын
Anderhils good enough
@yeshwantkethineni36947 жыл бұрын
You've come a loong way since 3K subs......
@cyjan3k8237 жыл бұрын
Good idea for video, I think minimum spec is enough to play even ovver minimum settings but lets see if it is true
@memegod62957 жыл бұрын
luv your vids, please keep up! you always make my day ! :=)
@Astfgl7 жыл бұрын
Oh wow, I still have a Core 2 Quad Q8200 and a Geforce 9800 GTX+ lying around here. I never thought GTA5 would be playable on that.
@moviingparts7 жыл бұрын
always thought this would be a decent idea for a channel.
@silvy73947 жыл бұрын
They should make a baseline for minimum system requirements, as in minimal hardware to run a game at 30FPS min, lowest settings at 1080p.
@TableWolfMusic7 жыл бұрын
A good example of this is how NeverWinterNights2 requires a 128meg GPU but the expansion pack (mask of the betrayer) says it needs a 256meg GPU when it really doesn't. It'll still work on the same card, like say a radeon 9800pro or even a ATI 9500 with 128meg. A good trick on the latter is to install winxp fresh and then servicepack2 but nothing more. NWN2 gives you dotnet.
@johnroberts46577 жыл бұрын
Great video! I've been looking for some demonstration of ark and I haven't found one. My gt 640 that I bought like 7 years ago runs ark at like 17 fps and max low setting with like 640 x 7-something settings. I'm getting a GeForce gtx 1060 and hoping to see some good results!
@ducttapeanddreams7 жыл бұрын
Most of the time it seems minimum system requirements are "what's the lowest spec system in the office that runs it"
@lukavidovic40337 жыл бұрын
Idk ,minimum requirements don't really mean to much,for example my cpu is bellow the minimum requirements for battlefield 1 but my gpu and ram are over recommended requirements and I can play on ultra around 60-70fps
@shanedean13307 жыл бұрын
Great video. It does make you question just what is expected by the programmers with these minimum specs...Do they not have a figure to work to (1080p at 40 fps for example) or do they just wing it and through any old specs out there?
@gunswinger31107 жыл бұрын
Wish games would start listing their minimum requirements based on hardware that can run it at a constant 30 fps or higher
@GamingXPOfficial7 жыл бұрын
jusr smoke weed and there you go highest settings
@Nick5507 жыл бұрын
hey @RandomGaminginHD, if you can get your hands on one, could you do a video on the new Evga GTX 1030?
@flagpoleeip7 жыл бұрын
very useful. I had wondered.
@RoyHess6667 жыл бұрын
When did you record the part with ARK: Survival Evolved? According to the options menu this was outdated by years (like version 174.00 or so)
@doritofan804 жыл бұрын
Saints Row 2's minimum requirments should have been tested to see if it even starts up
@lanoche7 жыл бұрын
I learned never to trust minimum system requirements because even with that the game usually doesn't even run smoothly at all. But I did notice that a lot of games just put in the recommended system now instead of minimum just so people won't complain why the game wont run on their "minimum requirements." Also seriously I learned ever since I got into pc gaming in 2007 to save just a bit more money to get a higher end parts than impulse buy a low or mid range and then it crapping on you in a few months to a couple of years and then just starting again from the scratch. This coming from a guy with a 7700k and a GTX 1080 at 1440p 144hz 1ms gsync monitor who used to budget game till 2011 lol. I just waited a bit more and saved more money to get the higher end stuff. My motto since getting my first mid-high end system in 2012 is "Can it run Crysis 2/3?"
@ramdrivesys18697 жыл бұрын
Buying medium end or low end does not mean you buy shit that will crap out on you in months. Try saving money on a 400-700 euro wage like most of my countryman. I dare you. Also, Crysis 2 and 3 can be run by most PCs with a cheap gaming card these days. Of course, not at 144 fps 4K or whatever.
@lanoche7 жыл бұрын
You know what's funny? I'm in Canada and our after sales tax is at 13% in my province so yeah when I bought that 1080 I got hit by about $150 in taxes and eco electronics disposal bs. Did I complain? A bit but I accepted it and I saved money to offset that. All I got from that reply of yours is "wah wah wah I don't want to save money for a better part, I want to buy my parts now and I "only" make 400-700." Btw I also made only 400+ a week net since we also do get a marginal tax rate on our wages so just think about this; I get taxed on Salary and when I buy something and you dare me to make a high end pc for only that much? Guess what? I already beat your "dare" 5 years ago when I first made my mid-high end system and I have been saving up money since then as a rainy day savings for when my pc finally gives out and I need an upgrade. Why did you think I managed to buy the 7700k and gtx 1080 and buy that high end gaming monitor? That is about 5 years worth of saving here and there so that didn't even break my bank even after dropping about $3000 in 2 weeks building my pc. If I can do it you can too. Now this is my dare for you as well; built an amazing gaming pc by saving money and not impulse buying crap. As for low end parts crapping out in a few months, I've known people as well who kept buying $100~200 parts that kept buying a new one in that price range again and again every few months when their pc suddenly can't run the next triple A title at 1080p at 60fps while I just spend once sit on that or just SLI it if I need it after a while. I had a gtx 670 that held up pretty well for a while then when I felt like I was not getting 60fps on some of the games, I found another one on sale then SLI'ed them till I switched to my 1080 a few months back. I also came from low end budget gaming since I was a highschool student with no money at the time and now I'm actually a lot older and I have that dreaded disease called a job.
@mmirhamzah7 жыл бұрын
for ark, in this case maybe u should set the launch option -d3d10 -sm4 and set all low for dx10 mode maybe that would be the minimum requirements setting :D
@akshatverma78577 жыл бұрын
Hey I would love to see Ark in your usual benchmarks as it is very poorly optimised and give very nice idea of how the hardware perform.
@MadIIMike7 жыл бұрын
Star Citizen orginal Minimum System Requirements: Core2Duo and GTX460 I think they updated it inofficially, but that's still shown on the Game's site. If the Game even starts on that, I'd be surprised if you ever see more than 5 FPS.
@_KeeVee7 жыл бұрын
You should've tried Arma 3 min requirements.... that would be fun.
@AlphaWolfling7 жыл бұрын
Game-Debate usually focuses more towards 60 fps than visuals which is why they rate the lowest settings with those hardwares
@3601christopher7 жыл бұрын
Even with the minimum requirements for just cause 3 it still manages to run far better than the console version.
@epicness73277 жыл бұрын
it doesnt matter what you run ark on it always runs like shit XD. i feel like 248 hours on a variety of hardware is enough for me to say that.
@DragonProtector7 жыл бұрын
Runs smooth for me on max settings.
@epicness73277 жыл бұрын
HOW
@DragonProtector7 жыл бұрын
Luck I guess? Spexs are as follow. I7 5820k @4.5ghz air temp never goes above 70 when gaming. Msi gaming x 8gb 580 gpu. 32gb ddr4 3000 @ 2400 currently. 100w psu platinum evga. Msi x99 gaming ack motherboard. Using 1920 x 1080 hd tv monitor as my display. Supports 75hz but only got it at 60hz.
@epicness73277 жыл бұрын
Msi gaming x 8gb 580 gpu so that an rx580? and i run it currently on a ryzen 5 1400 oc to 3.8 ghz with an overclocked gtx 970 and its being pushed as hard as it can.i sit around like 60 some times but if im around a base im like in the 20/40's
@Ionlyknowonesimplething7 жыл бұрын
Ark ran like shit for me till I bought more ram, now I get pretty smooth rates heavily modded and high settings.
@R3TR0J4N7 жыл бұрын
I recommend using CRU "Custom Resolution Utility" or to use a custom resolution, then use it to create a 1024*576 and 896*504 a 16:9 ratio replacement for those 4:3 ratio 1024*768 and 800*600. also it's more fps
@Jeff-ik9zj7 жыл бұрын
Neat, never expected my pc would run gta5 at a playable fps my pc is just a tad better then shown in the video
@illidanstormrage12056 жыл бұрын
good video bro
@LordFantasthick7 жыл бұрын
From what I heard, min requiremends means, that your game is supposed to run on lowest settings in 1080p 60fps average.
@galahexolion7 жыл бұрын
When 2500k shown as a minimum, but with gtx 1060 you play on max settings...
@TuRmIx967 жыл бұрын
Could you use MSI Afterburner so you can show us the CPU/GPU load, RAM and VRAM usage and such? It would be great.
@coleslaw11077 жыл бұрын
Just cause 3 has strong stuttering with a Phenom II X4 so I'd say that a core i3 6100 is the minimum.
@PerhapsGuy7 жыл бұрын
I play Halo 5 forge on my laptop sometimes, and the game runs okay even though its below the requirements
@Dazarazmataz7 жыл бұрын
There are several launch options you can change to make Ark run better but even then my i7 4790k and gtx 980 struggle with high settings.
@Charsept7 жыл бұрын
I used to game on my laptop with integrated graphics. it played sooooooo many games that it shouldn't have been able to.
@robertkubrick37385 жыл бұрын
I bought my brother a 1050ti because it should have run elite dangerous with his old i5-3340 and 8gb ram. It wouldn't run for crap. I next opened my toolbox [debit card] and bought him an Alienware Aurora R7 with i7-8700 16gb 2666 ram and 1080 non ti, and Elite Dangerous runs like a bat outta hell. $1400 was not such a bad investment for that prebuilt that runs virtually anything and will for probably another 5-7 years.