Rural EDC: Option 1 (TIS416)

The Idahoan discusses one option for rural EDC.

[@williambarnes3125]

Welp. This is gonna be on cursed gun images for sure.

[@daetslovactmandcarry6999]

$5 says Brandon places his personal blessing on it.

[@elterga6224]

This is the worst thing I’ve ever laid my eyes on

[@anondeilvers91]

It's a dARco

[@daetslovactmandcarry6999]

$5 says Brandon places his personal blessing on it.

[@tacticalgunsmith]

A folding brace and mounting a 1-8 lpvo to the reciever and youd have exactly what you need.

[@ltnitmare]

What in tarnation!

[@doitwithpurpose2180]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@TrollinCrazyRussian]

Why few April's fool videos got released today?

[@daetslovactmandcarry6999]

$5 says Brandon places his personal blessing on it.

[@GUE5TPA55]

@6:06 I see a potential issue the ejection of the shells appears to "Banging" on the glass of the scout scope this may affect accuracy over time and may damage the eye piece.

[@GUE5TPA55]

also a fold out stock solves more than a few of your targeting issues

[@Yapperinos]

forget the glass it might damage your face

[@AnonDW40]

You’re worried about height over bore but not worried about foxtrot mikes shotty craftsmanship. Mounting your optic on the rail and not the receiver is probably the worst thing you could do.

[@privateassman8839]

How

[@PaleoBushman]

I love this channel! I'm sorry this platform is shadow banning it so bad. Great video as always brother.

[@doublepiedavid8908]

Imo, you should just get a 1913 brace and throw it onto that rifle, then run a PA nova 1-6x. It's more normal, but there is a reason why more people use that then large format pistols

[@DogeMcLovin]

Always quite the interesting thought experiment haha

[@SGCXD]

You might have some problems keeping the scope zeroed reliably with it mounted on the hand guard. You can also use a folding “pistol brace” when you need more stability for longer range shots

[@Ist_Geheim]

Watched the whole video and read all of the 65 comments that have been added here till now. 1.) I really like your out-of-the-box experiments. Keep on going! 2.) Two or three users recommanded a look at the "Demonstrated Concepts LLC" channel, and I know this channel and think it's a good idea to watch his cheek-pistol videos and compare his ideas to yours. 3.) My personal opinion on this build: 3.a) You want it compact, so bufferless is good and no folding stock/brace makes it even shorter (and narrower and lighter). So if you like shooting two hands with a sling, and practise that and it works for you: Than that's your way to go. 3.b) No flash hider: Yes, it gets even shorter. If that makes the difference of: "It fits in my backback" or "It doesn't fit in my backpack", than it's the way to go for you. Keep in mind that in low light conditions you are blinding yourself with every shot you make. And in prone you're spraying dirt around. Maybe you should build yourself a "folding flash hider". Of course it should be of a larger diameter than a standard fixed flash hider, as you don't want it accidential be hit by a round. 3.c) AR's normally have a big offset between barrel and sights. But: That's because of the ergonomics of how an AR usually is designed. With the straight buffer tube, you have to put the sights high up in order to shoot ergonomically. But as you got rid of the buffer tube, you can hold the whole gun a little bit higher easily. So you could install a micro-reddot directly to the picatinny rail, without a raiser, and you would have a much narrower (and lighter) gun with little bore-to-sight-offset. I don't think that a magnificated optic makes much sense on that platform. 3.d) If you put the scope away, you should get the charging handle back on the right side and use it "AK-style". If you're a right handed shooter, the left side of the gun is hanging and moving at your clothes, with the risk of the charging handle beeing moved (maybe enough to open the chamber a little bit and/or making the gun unable to shoot). 3.e) People recommanded backup iron sights. They aren't heavy nor bulky, maybe pricy. What I definitively recommand is a light!

[@anondeilvers91]

2:10 📸 *SNAP!* yep. That's going in the cursed gun complimation.

[@daetslovactmandcarry6999]

$5 says Brandon places his personal blessing on it.

[@herknorth8691]

Interesting concept. Have you found that the ocular lens of the scope gets carbon sprayed on it from being that close to the ejection port? Also, is a folding brace something that you've tried too? Perhaps that's just not necessary, but I'd think that would be something that could add even more capability, specifically accuracy at longer range and perhaps faster target acquisition at closer range (I have almost no experience with that kind of tension sling, so not sure about this). Also, you might be uniquely suited to fabricating some sort of brace that would add minimal bulk to the gun, though I'm sure that would be fraught with legal peril.

[@woodrowbrimm2805]

The .300 Blackout would also run on that platform by just changing the barrel and would give a much heavier .30 caliber bullet with a 125 or 150 grain weight for more short range muzzle energy and still work out to 100 yards. You never mention what bullet weight you used but a 75 or 77 grain .223Rem. or 5.56 Nato round would optimize the muzzle energy an your current setup.

[@Pacificplinker556]

0 iq gun

[@frost8077]

Looks more like a dieselpunk movie prop than something practical when you can get a better cartridge that's suited for that form size. It's unique at least.

[@longtallzach9]

that bird cage is probably a better option. short barrels flash more and in lower light situations like winter, itll really be handy. and because the bottom is closed off so it'll keep anything your bracing or resting against from getting chewed up by that larger fireball you get from the shorter barrel and it also has a compensation effect.. plus self defense reasons

[@PonyFoot123]

Very interesting. You really need back up iron sights.

[@agoogleaccount2861]

It's the OA96 reinvented. ..nice choice. Pps 43c is also a good 9mm PDW they're accurate and SIMPLE all steel with loose tolerances that don't care much about a little dirt and are easy to clean and aren't ammo picky

[@xxxlonewolf49]

I will guess no brace to save on space?

[@sinisterthoughts2896]

Yup

[@timucintarakc2281]

Get yourself an aks-74u with a folding stock.

[@jessewhite4897]

For

[@blakebeaton5821]

If you were to be able to do this same idea with an AR10 platform in 8.6 blackout or 6.5 creedmore and use some HK MP7 flip up sights for the pistol style sights when folded down for faster target acquisition at closer ranges for targets of opportunity, it could have more energy and/or range with a only slightly larger size and weight. With the higher recoiling rounds, I would even suggest maybe a folding brace/stock and a VFG (obviously with a SBR or AOW stamp for legality).

[@KumaRealityGames]

Here’s an idea. A magnum caliber “cheek” pistol. (Instead of using a sling for stability, you brace a cheek stock against your, well, cheek) Though I’d have no idea what pistol to use as a chassis. An ar-pistol in .458 socom?

[@daetslovactmandcarry6999]

I was going to ask about the caliber you selected. ¿You realize the AR-15 can be chambered to 5.56ᴍᴍ and still use .223, or to a dozen other calibers right? The Army is switch over to the 6.8ᴍᴍ, not sure if an AR barrel for 6.8 exists but I’m not willing to be against it.

[@matthewconnor5483]

The 6.8 that sig is pushing is 6.8x51 and it about the same overall size as 308 you you would need AR10 sized receivers, mags and bolt, not an AR-15.

[@juver890]

SBR that puppy and slap on a folding stock ?

[@Jesses001]

Hum, since you do not have to worry about a stock, you have a lot more flexibility with scope mounting. You can get super tight to the gun. One of those micro dots might be a good addition. Normally you have to put them on a riser, which makes them take up almost as much space as a normal red dot, but with this kind of set-up, you can get it as close to the rail as you can and still aim it just fine. As for calibers for a set-up like this, .300 blackout seems like an obvious one. .300 blackout was designed to be effective out of a shorter barrel. Not sure a supressor is a great idea as it might make the weapon to front heavy and long, but the shorter barrel should not be a major hinderence in power for .300 blackout, while 5.56 is lossing hundreds of FPS that way...and making a lot of blast.

[@Jesses001]

Actually I just thought of something. Combine the bullpup AR idea you had a while back, use a bufferless upper, move the trigger a bit further back so your hand is wrapped around the magazine well...not a pistol grip but more of a traditional stock grip...hum...shame I do not have a 3D printer or kept up with my CAD training, ha. Maybe I can hobble together something when I have a little extra money.

[@awesomefatBruceLee]

Im so confused, if its a bufferless ar15 why not make it an SBR bullpup? It would dot all the points you want while being able to be fired from a more stable shoulder fired position. But if being a non NFA ar15 is a must why not make it as lightweight as possible and treat it like a scoped handgun, those "ARPs" are far more natural shooting when held like one with only cons being unusual geometry+barrel weight (and you can fix barrel weight with one of those carbonfiber barrels) But its still a strange choice, for either of those roles, due to how inherrently inefficient the AR15 design is in anything other than a rifle or carbine build, confusing.

[@wadekirby8575]

What scope are you using?

[@TheIdahoanShow]

Vortex scout scope.

[@BlueCollarDude101]

In a rural setting, is the only time you can fully exercise your constitutional rights without government interference

[@KumaRealityGames]

I appreciate what you’re trying to accomplish. But, if I were you (and I’m not) I would probably go with a PS90 SBR. Though I imagine a large part of your project, is providing a solution for yourself for your own enjoyment. Not to mention avoiding paying the price of a brand new firearm, and the tax stamp foot print that a chopped ps90 would have. My reasoning is a ps90 is about the same profile as your creation, and the less powerful yet laser straight ballistic round would be compensated by a capacity of 50’rounds. And I reckon with your skills you could find a way to mount a scope much like you did here. Another thought, if .223 is too anemic for your purposes, .243 is a fantastic upgrade that also has laser like ballistics. But, then you’re dealing with an ar-10 platform. Just thinking out-loud!

[@Bad_spark]

Why is the scope so far forward? Even with that stance, it looks as if you have way too much eye relief.

[@TheIdahoanShow]

It's a "scout scope" that's designed to be mounted forward of the action, so the eye relief is actually ok. Also, with the scope mounted off-axis to reduce the hight-over-bore, I can't move it any farther back without blocking the ejection port.

[@Bad_spark]

Ooh I thought Vortex didn't make a long eye relief scope. My bad

[@SolutreanSpear]

I feel like you shoukd check out the Demonstarted Concepts channel, he has some ideas similar to yours. Specifically his ar15 pistol videos. He calls it a cheek pistol, check out his 200yd accuracy testing short videos.

[@griffithguns1776]

This is insane and based

[@garageguy879]

Excellent video.Got no complaints.Rural settings is even more important than urban settings.

[@indoorkite651]

put a collapsing BRACE, not stock on it, and switch from an VPO to a prism optic. and mount it on top like God intended and now we're talking edit: you do handle it well, so I guess if it works for you it works.

[@internationalstateofmind8566]

I think you should look at demonstrated concept's cheek pistol concept. Once you understand the technique it makes a lot of sense. Use one of the micro pistol buffer systems by kak or strike industries and it really shrinks the profile while letting you keep with a lot of standard ar15 parts and maybe utilize a smaller 1 to 6 scope and you might have a winner with what you are trying to achieve!

[@highlandermachineworks5795]

If you are in a true rural area, you probably don't need to worry about being compact. When I'm in the freedom areas, I see open carry quite often. Generally, it's pistols. But sometimes you do see someone lugging around other things. Rural areas don't require carrying much at all. If any. They're generally safe. And not much happens. However, if you're in the delightful, major hubs of such a successful "our democracy"(?) and inclusivity, (aka any democrat run city), compact helps. Or just stay out of the cities and let the locals trade and collect the projectiles on their own. Lastly, I'm not criticizing your work. I applaud anyone who is willing to commit to turning/machining ideas into reality. Leaving your ideas in your head can lead to regret. Anyone who is inventive should keep trying. I started on the first solo and largest construction project in my life this year. I was not a builder. I am now. "If you want it done right, you got to do it yourself."

[@asphal.t]

your optic is gonna get gassed out by the ejection port and impossible to see through within a mag. its cool to see you are trying to experiment with stuff, but there is zero reason to not run a pistol as your EDC, with a folding rifle in your vehicle if you feel you need one. You are NOT going to be carrying that thing on you AT ALL TIMES. Its not an EDC if you dont have it on you all day.

[@asphal.t]

10.5 AR with a folding brace and a micro red dot seems much more practical. If you are shooting stuff that you need magnification for, you should have a full rifle, or leave.

[@willlaroche3170]

This is a joke right?😂😮

[@utoobuser206]

1911 w/ reddot, suppressed, recover tactical brace and light. That thing is awkward, cumbersome and heavy. Better off reconfigured back to a carbine with a folder . The 1911 will do the job out to 100yds.

[@popinmo]

im working on a 2lb ar15 bulpup it is very very small and you can even take the barrel off within a few seconds so you could on the fly swap to 9mm , 5,56 , 300 , 6mm arc .6.5 grandel ,350l etc with a 8 inch barrel its smaller then a p90 or mp5

[@hillbillyyhomer]

👍👍

[@dieselblj]

🤦‍♂️

[@Knightrem]

To heck with all these essays, i think it's darn interesting to try and maximize the utility of a goofy "handgun rifle". These are probably the same people that think you're a fool unless you carry a full sized service pistol everywhere everyday.

[@Yapperinos]

there's no utility in mounting a scope to m lok holes, they weren't made to hold zero. back to the drawing board. carry whatever you want just make sure it works

[@Knightrem]

@Yapperinos ok buddy

[@Yapperinos]

@@Knightrem ok buddy yourself. sometimes the haters have a good point

[@suprafastmafc]

A folding stock, even a shitty one, and a red dot or irons would be much prefferable.

[@davidweikle9921]

I think this is a pretty good option, mostly because it is bufferless. It wouod make a great gun for the truck, backpacking or camping. Not the best option all the time, but a great option most of the time b

[@corycarlson8712]

Generally you want to simplify things not complicate things.... youve taken an ar style rifle... probrably the ultimate rifle for urban defense and neutered it. I love the fact your an out of the box thinker... but this project was a massive miss. Youd be so much better with a 11.5" psa "pistol". You can get them for $450. Even without a brace the buffer tube can be used to stablize as you shoot. so much better than a 90s mp5 sling and 2 hands. Removing the stock from a rifle is like looking at a car and deciding you want to make it better... but your solution is to give the car square wheels. And the side mounted scope... so now instead of your bulletts hitting 2 inches low at close range they will be hitting 1 inch to the right... not to mention goodness only knows whether that scope mount is actually going to hold up over time. Id give you 10/10 for an interesting video but 2/10 for practicality. Youve taken an effective tool and downgraded it to below average. Youd be so much better off with a holosun red dot or primary arms 3x prism scope if you were seriously worried about size. But who am i to judge... you keep making your creations, I love the channel, keep it weird my friend.

[@sinisterthoughts2896]

I disagree. it isn't trying to be a rifle, it is designed primarily to be carried with the least effort, so sacrificing the buttstock and buffer tube does save a lot of length. He proved it is still viable, but much more portable. It seems your still hung on it being an AR, where his goal has nothing to do with an AR, he is only using it as a means to an end, not as the end itself. Being the "ultimate rifle for urban defense" (what does urban defense even mean?) Has nothing to do with what he is trying to achieve, so is irrelevant to his goals. It's fine to disagree, tastes do differ after all, but just because you disagree doesn't mean it'd wrong. We are talking EDC here, and the correct choice is whatever the person doing the carrying chooses. Like the adage "the 22 in your pocket is better than the 45 you left at home" and such. The whole point of this design was to get away from the buffer tube, and your point of putting it back on seems to indicate you missed his point. He never said this gun was for you, and he is designing it for himself, and these were his choices. Offset scopes work fine, and work a lot better than the holosun you suggest, since he wants it for precision and a scope will do better. You seemed to miss the point of him firing the gun at a 45 degree can't, which puts the scope in vertical line with his bore. It seems in your mind you keep building "the ultimate urban defense rifle" which is simply not what his goal was. Again, what does that even mean? He isn't trying to build you "ultimate urban defense rifle" he is trying to get as much of a rifles performance out of as small of a package as he can, it's a compromise, much like most carry pieces. A subcompact 9mm isn't the best gun to defend your life with, it's the handiest, a rifle beats it out in performance everytime but can't fit in the pocket. So we compromise power and practical accuracy to have a smaller handier piece on us. He did the same thing here, but didn't need it to be so small it was concealable, and he needed more performance than a handgun cartridge, ergo his designs compromises got him where he is at. I agree a butt stock would help a lot, maybe a minimalistic side folder would help.

[@brianchandler7118]

Oh gawsh no.. oh my eyes.

[@GenericBrandDan]

Yuck! Won't a tavor 7 fit in a UTV, what is wrong with you?

[@IntenseSpirit]

Fallout ahh blaster

[@roberttaylor7451]

This is really bad in many ways. Put a small red dot on top that will actually hold zero and add a folding brace, then you will at least have a useable crappy carbine. Look at how long it takes to line up and fire at 25 yards. Bad idea in every way. I have a feeling that you know this and are just trolling people.

[@Siskiyous6]

I drive a truck my EDC Weighs 9 pounds, has a 28 inch barrel and shoots 300 Weatherby, firepower is a useless concept.

[@easternWashington.]

With current technological limitations, you have likely come as close as possible to having one gun that can do it all.

[@ikocher]

Well it sure is interesting. Clearly not the meta but it could be handy. Something off the back end that lets you index into the eye box would help

[@Brad-vs1jc]

🤢🤮

[@sinisterthoughts2896]

Very cool project!

[@903thrax9]

A lot of haters in the comments. This is a good idea especially if you have to shoot from a prone position. I like it and I might have to try it out. I stay in the country, thick brush lots of wooded areas and big fields. These city guys don't know shit and have no experience outside of a keyboard. You actually have a trench dug to do training for realistic combat scenarios. These other guys are at indoor ranges trying to give advice to people who really use their weapons outside of Instagram. Only suggestions I have are adding iron sights and getting a smaller scope like a standard 3-9x30 for weight purposes and to move the optic away from the ejection port. Also, a small low profile red dot might be useful as well. Overall, I like the gun and the innovation.

[@DTFTACTICAL]

Just get a prism optic of you want magnification and compact sight

[@Mrkeats5487]

Bottom line worst idea ever.

[@derweibhai]

Lots of ignorant comments. I like the idea. I prefer a 10.5 braced pistol with LAW folder, but that is a lot more expensive. Isn't County life great?!!!!!

[@taylorbennion3706]

primary weapon for rural edc should just be a lever gun this one of the stupidest things ever in my opinion

[@Bailey9x19]

This is a bad ass project

[@hogsand95s]

Your primary weapon would get you laughed of any ranch in South Texas. Im running a far better choice IWI galil ace 7.62x39 sbr folding stock, can and eotech.