Russia Just Invaded Ukraine: How They're Getting Away With It

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@johnpaulcross424
@johnpaulcross424 2 жыл бұрын
The energy of this video is surreal, mans commentating on the invasion of a foreign nation like a Clash Royale youtuber talking about a new card 💀
@MaximusFrisia
@MaximusFrisia 2 жыл бұрын
This is the best comments I've seen in a while
@yeetus_feetus8564
@yeetus_feetus8564 2 жыл бұрын
lmao
@andriusgimbutas3723
@andriusgimbutas3723 2 жыл бұрын
Watch out for hog ridaa to arrive at Donbass frontier
@awsomemodels
@awsomemodels 2 жыл бұрын
Or a new Minecraft update 🤷‍♂️
@SirNyanPanda
@SirNyanPanda 2 жыл бұрын
He's tonedeaf. Instant dislike.
@menpee
@menpee 2 жыл бұрын
"If it's our regime, then it's democracy. If it's their democracy, it's a regime." - Putin's logic.
@GasMan1918
@GasMan1918 2 жыл бұрын
Ehhhhhhhhh. Calling Ukraine a democracy is kind of a stretch, Russia vs Ukraine is basically who is the lesser of two evils? With the lesser being Ukraine.
@louieusher4792
@louieusher4792 2 жыл бұрын
It works the same if you say "america's logic"
@mar07in
@mar07in 2 жыл бұрын
@@louieusher4792 Yes very true lol just look at CIA coups across Africa, Middle East, Latin America etc etc....
@anyways4438
@anyways4438 2 жыл бұрын
@@GasMan1918 Ukraine literally has a democracy though, they change ruling parties every election and if that doesn't happen the Ukrainians revolt, like in 2014
@scarecrow533
@scarecrow533 2 жыл бұрын
- Every politician ever*
@benjamincroft4106
@benjamincroft4106 2 жыл бұрын
I really love and respect the whole "second channel, don't care, money grabber" honesty, it actually makes me wanna donate more because at least he's honest and genuine ahahah
@leorione
@leorione 2 жыл бұрын
I... didn't even know he had a second channel?
@arirock18
@arirock18 2 жыл бұрын
@@leorione This is the second channel lmao, his main one is a Minecraft channel mainly
@fullmetalpwn
@fullmetalpwn 2 жыл бұрын
@@leorione I am a fellow second-channel only watcher. Never watched a minecraft video, but have been aware of his main channel for a while now lol.
@electro6202
@electro6202 2 жыл бұрын
I agree even though i don't watch minecraft so im just subbed to this channel he has something for his younger and older audiences
@jubrilliant4835
@jubrilliant4835 2 жыл бұрын
@@electro6202 same here! Like I didn't know that this isn't his main channel
@alexlarsen6413
@alexlarsen6413 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, we're super close in Scandinavia but whenever we tried to make one common state, it always failed miserably, with too many wars to count between us throughout history. Putin has lost his marbles with that 19th century type of imperialism.
@bennelong8451
@bennelong8451 2 жыл бұрын
SOVIET REUNION CCCP It (Ukraine) belongs to Lenin anyways -Putin
@svensvensson1085
@svensvensson1085 2 жыл бұрын
Hopefully us Nordics will unite.
@Solaxe
@Solaxe 2 жыл бұрын
@C M Ukrainian nationalism started developing during Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth if not earlier, go back to your cave russian troll
@jackyex
@jackyex 2 жыл бұрын
@@Solaxe not exactly, Ukrainian nationalism was born in Austria Galicia, when they were recognized as a different group from the poles in it.
@catboynestormakhno2694
@catboynestormakhno2694 2 жыл бұрын
@C M after the soviets destroyed the government they had there previously yes Sooooooo???
@duckpotat9818
@duckpotat9818 2 жыл бұрын
"The civilization started there but it's no longer centered there" *Indian stares at Pakistan*
@anjanajnair
@anjanajnair 2 жыл бұрын
Oh god
@DLBBALL
@DLBBALL 2 жыл бұрын
Indus River moment
@precious0_0
@precious0_0 2 жыл бұрын
As a russian, i'd very much love to die for oligarchs' ambitions to have control over more of the land while half a country is lying in ruins and inflation is increasing day by day. God bless the tsar
@deutschermichel5807
@deutschermichel5807 2 жыл бұрын
As a westerner, i'd very much love to die for capitalists' ambitions to have economical and financial control over more of the land while half all countries lie in ruins and inflation is increasing day by day. God bless the USA
@user-yv3ro1fo7w
@user-yv3ro1fo7w 2 жыл бұрын
I think the whole point is to use a war to bolster the economy there’s a major economic depression coming and Putin knows if Russia strikes out they can delay or maybe prevent getting caught in a global recession
@deutschermichel5807
@deutschermichel5807 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-yv3ro1fo7w same thing actually in the United States (military-industrial complex)
@nex865
@nex865 2 жыл бұрын
@@deutschermichel5807 america isnt poor
@deutschermichel5807
@deutschermichel5807 2 жыл бұрын
@@nex865You are surely one of those people who claim shit like "Germany is a rich country" etc. Let me tell you that, yes, in comparison the quality of life in western countries is better, but that does not mean they are rich. That you claim "America" not being poor is hilarious, as it's one of the most poor western countries looking at average and lower class citizens. Even the american state is not rich. It's actually the opposite, the USA having the highest debts in the world, besides the Weimar Republic even the highest in all Human history. You must also consider the capitalist or lobbyist how some call them. In representative democracies economical influence in legislation and the executive branch in government is naturally a great problem. It's no secret but common knowledge that the USA (as an example, surely any other state has or had similar activities) brought war and terror to the globe merely because lobbyist politicans earned fortunes by influencing diplomacy and waging conflict
@santivargasf
@santivargasf 2 жыл бұрын
Russia: "You turned her against me!" NATO: "You've done that yourself!"
@johnirvine9942
@johnirvine9942 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, this is good👍
@izawa9211
@izawa9211 2 жыл бұрын
Phew nato is gonna win this one, anyways who tf will be luke Skywalker and why the fuck will russia die for it
@igneous061
@igneous061 2 жыл бұрын
Nato has done that same shit for decades, and got away with it.....ffs hipocrits
@auberginemanproductions1608
@auberginemanproductions1608 2 жыл бұрын
Russia: "Don't make me kill you." NATO: "I will do what I must." Russia: "You will try..."
@Lo_.
@Lo_. 2 жыл бұрын
True. By dropping bombs on Ukraine, Russia has only made them more hostile and more likely to seek help from the west. If that's how Russia plans to do a "family reunion", then idk man.
@Pidalin
@Pidalin 2 жыл бұрын
This is really scary to me because it looks very similar to what Hitler did to my country (Czechoslovakia in 1938) and you know, he invaded rest of country only few months later and there was fucking world war, he used our industry and weapons even against you. France and UK forced us give our land to Hitler in name of peace and it was obvious that he wanted much more, we can't make same mistake again and say "it's some country on the east, who cares...." Ukraine is maybe not industrial power like Czechoslovakia in 30s, bug there is still plenty of guns just lying on the ground, if Putin takes it, he can use it against us.
@moonjae-in12thpresidentofr20
@moonjae-in12thpresidentofr20 2 жыл бұрын
@C M bro Morocco is in Africa
@dammitthatguy3107
@dammitthatguy3107 2 жыл бұрын
@@moonjae-in12thpresidentofr20 Probably thinks it's in the middle east lol
@cryxlz
@cryxlz 2 жыл бұрын
@C M ah a nazi. Those still exist
@kiythetheocrat5723
@kiythetheocrat5723 2 жыл бұрын
I mean the soviets also invaded on the 30 year anniversary
@matkex7
@matkex7 2 жыл бұрын
If some 1 parked nuclear missiles around ur country what would u do? Ukraine was so strong on words what now?
@dunnowy123
@dunnowy123 2 жыл бұрын
Aside from the obvious human tragedy, it's kind of astounding to see Russia's leadership, through THREE completely different regimes - absolutist monarchy, Communist state, autocratic conservative dictatorship - act basically the exact same way over the course of hundreds of years.
@alexpotts6520
@alexpotts6520 2 жыл бұрын
You can't beat democracy.
@thecactusman17
@thecactusman17 2 жыл бұрын
That's because despite what they called themselves, Russia never stopped being a monarchy. It just changed the way it chooses subsequent kings.
@vyktorehon5995
@vyktorehon5995 2 жыл бұрын
Ye
@milesdunstan-daams4855
@milesdunstan-daams4855 2 жыл бұрын
@@thecactusman17 but monarchies are chosen through birth
@milesdunstan-daams4855
@milesdunstan-daams4855 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexpotts6520 depends on what there might be a few benefits to democrocy but most of the worst leaders come from democrocy or revolutions
@MellonAM
@MellonAM 2 жыл бұрын
“I think this is as far as Russia will go” 1 day later: Russia starts a full invasion of Ukraine
@markusklyver6277
@markusklyver6277 2 жыл бұрын
yeah sad
@TheKeystoneChannel
@TheKeystoneChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Moves and counter moves, Ukrainian military is killing Eastern Ukrainians that want to be with Russia, but the media doesn't tell that part
@MellonAM
@MellonAM 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheKeystoneChannel Send proof, from any reliable source.
@TheKeystoneChannel
@TheKeystoneChannel 2 жыл бұрын
@@MellonAM How bout you do some research for yourself, that is the best way to figure it out. start with 2014 and the coup d’etat in Ukraine, work your way up from there...also research some channels, like a total independent guy on the ground in Ukraine, he is from the US , his channel is the same as his name Patrick Lancaster
@TheKeystoneChannel
@TheKeystoneChannel 2 жыл бұрын
@@MellonAM Patrick Lancaster's channel will show you and let them tell you first hand
@Mark-ib2st
@Mark-ib2st 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to watch your coverage on ww3
@RapidAssaultEuro
@RapidAssaultEuro 2 жыл бұрын
"Hello! Ibx toycat here, and did you know that nuclear weapons kill more people through radioactive poisoning than the initial blast? I bet you didn't know, so today we're going to be looking at 9 maps showing the path of fallout throughout the world. At the end we'll be overlaying a map of my patreon subscribers to find out how many of you will die! I won't be able to able to afford lobster rolls any more, but maybe I can do a food review of mutant cockroach rolls on the 3rd channel!"
@sickboi2615
@sickboi2615 2 жыл бұрын
hopfully not 😞
@motubak1622
@motubak1622 2 жыл бұрын
That’s it he still exists. The UK is dangerously close to Russia, very small and the poster boy for this whole conflict on the nato side.
@Jo-MM
@Jo-MM 2 жыл бұрын
@@RapidAssaultEuro Bruh
@khsh99
@khsh99 2 жыл бұрын
That's something no one wants.
@user-te7rf8ik7z
@user-te7rf8ik7z 2 жыл бұрын
You ask how we get away? Simple. We use Nord VPN. P.s. Just a joke. Everyone in Russia (except for propagandists) wants peace.
@enthusiastisch1922
@enthusiastisch1922 2 жыл бұрын
There's no censorship in Russia, oh do you mean RT by "propagandists", tell that to the UK parliament, and they'd be supporting that.
@Persac7
@Persac7 2 жыл бұрын
cap
@The-Devils-Advocate
@The-Devils-Advocate 2 жыл бұрын
@@Persac7 pretty sure the guy is Russian
@undergroundlace1686
@undergroundlace1686 2 жыл бұрын
What will normal Russians like yourself miss out on from NATO sanctions??
@user-te7rf8ik7z
@user-te7rf8ik7z 2 жыл бұрын
@@undergroundlace1686 mostly tech, I think. I'm pretty sure laptop/smartphone and PC prices will go through the roof.
@sethf2258
@sethf2258 2 жыл бұрын
This whole situation is essentially losing a city in civ to loyalty and your neighbor taking it
@ilcondottierocartografo6770
@ilcondottierocartografo6770 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah loll
@caseyb1346
@caseyb1346 2 жыл бұрын
exactly. Technically Luhansk and Donetsk were already Free Cities, and Russia got impatient waiting for them to flip and just sent in its military. Understandable move, I would have done the same.
@sethf2258
@sethf2258 2 жыл бұрын
@@caseyb1346 "the congo has denounced you for warmongering" "Norway wants to become freinds because you have a strong navy"
@ryanrzjr
@ryanrzjr 2 жыл бұрын
As an American, I would have to say our closest friend in Europe is britain, although we consider most of them friends. We tend to see Britain as kinda an individualist that likes to have its own identity, which is something we admire. Along with the fact we share a language. We like Germany and France a lot too, but it seems too much like they’re trying to fight us on things which to their credit may or may not be the right thing, but conflict is there nonetheless. Along with that culturally we look at Germany, France, Italy, and basically everywhere else an a cool separate culture, but Britain is very similar to us and we feel they share alot of the same problems we do. There’s also things like the royal family which Americans still like to talk about, and we share alot of music. It’s not uncommon to find out something you enjoy is British, although we do love Ireland and many Americans think very black and white about geopolitics, so you can see where that leads to. Along with that, we love to make fun of the British, but I’m sure that’s mutual.
@alexpotts6520
@alexpotts6520 2 жыл бұрын
Us Brits make fun of everyone in equal opportunity, but most of all we make fun of ourselves.
@xyzz232
@xyzz232 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexpotts6520 In Germany it's quite similar. Most of all we make fun of the British.
@willywanker6239
@willywanker6239 2 жыл бұрын
ok and? tf does this have to do with the uk and us ._.
@lurchibold
@lurchibold 2 жыл бұрын
I love your overview of our friendship (if that makes sense lol). I have a very close American friend from Wisconsin who regularly makes the trip across the pond to have a vacation and I do the same when I have a holiday ( Big Up Wisconsin Rapids!!). Me (and my family), consider her a sister in every meaning of the word and would drop whatever we are doing here in the UK to go and help her if she ever needed us and we were able to get there.
@lurchibold
@lurchibold 2 жыл бұрын
@@willywanker6239 The UK and US have a friendship based on history and mutual respect from lessons learned while making said history.
@GenGariczek
@GenGariczek 2 жыл бұрын
1938, AH invaded Sudetenland because Germans lived there, a year later Czechoslovakia did not exist. There are many other cases of this, and it rarely ends well for the people living there.
@PresidentJosephRBiden-fv7xq
@PresidentJosephRBiden-fv7xq 2 жыл бұрын
You have a point there, however, Russia has already done this (2008, Georgia) (2014, Crimea), and it didn't result in a full takeover of the country, so I doubt if it will happen now. Putin doesn't want to take over Europe like Hitler wanted, he just wants to unite all the ethnically Russian people (which still is a bad thing obviously)
@pavelrolewicz7619
@pavelrolewicz7619 2 жыл бұрын
Last time I checked Russia aren't nazis
@haydencantthink
@haydencantthink 2 жыл бұрын
@@pavelrolewicz7619 Last time I checked nobody here was comparing Russia to the Nazi's
@quakeknight9680
@quakeknight9680 2 жыл бұрын
SU wanted to help Czechoslovakia, Poland would not let them Romania too
@bennelong8451
@bennelong8451 2 жыл бұрын
Wasn’t it the Soviet Union who stopped AH and saved Europe from fascism?
@sookendestroy1
@sookendestroy1 2 жыл бұрын
Heres the problem with "just avoid the war by declaring legally that Ukraine cant join NATO" the second that happens Russia also declares war and imvades Ukraine. Its a catch 22, Russia wants ukraine and its not gonna stop till it gets it, no matter the events its inevitable, the only thing that stops that would be ukraine being made a nato member in which case it cant happen.
@baskoning9896
@baskoning9896 2 жыл бұрын
You know who also wants Ukraine? The eu/nato. Would usa allow cuban missiles? No? Then why would russia allow nato to occupy a border state. Why would they allow the crimea to fall in nato hands. Hmm? The problem is the expansion of the eu/nato towards the east: all the way to stalingrad. Russia wants to keep the buffer state. Remember operation barbarossa? the invasion of russia was held at where the eu now wants to START. It would be foolish of the russians to allow that. The eu should keep its promise, they made after the fall of the berlin wall: no expansion towards russia. They did anyway. ALL the way up to the actual border of russia.
@sinoroman
@sinoroman 2 жыл бұрын
in that scenario, ukraine won't be annexed, just a new government in ukraine. that's what russia wants rn, a new government in ukraine- and ukraine doesn't want that (this is where the explanation diverges)
@sheepsky
@sheepsky 2 жыл бұрын
NATO should have disbanded when the USSR fell apart.
@titi53221
@titi53221 2 жыл бұрын
This is so dumb. Why would Russia want Ukraine? Besides Crimea which is a different case. Russia doesn't want NATO on its borders, so if they invade Ukraine they would border NATO countries like Poland. There's no real benefit or reason for Russia to invade Ukraine besides "Russia is evil and imperialist" which is just propaganda
@Mikey12396
@Mikey12396 2 жыл бұрын
@@titi53221 one reason would be having Ukraine act as a buffer. The distance from Ukraine to Moscow is much shorter than the one you would get from Poland to Moscow. Not pro russia, just my 2 cents
@csaba9285
@csaba9285 2 жыл бұрын
I'd argue that the Polish-Hungarian friendship is the strongest friendship between 2 countries.
@cbhorxo
@cbhorxo 2 жыл бұрын
Poland and Hungary are really close, but so are Russia and Belarus, Czechia and Slovakia, USA and Canada, Australia and New Zealand, Finland and Estonia, Netherlands and Flanders, Ireland, Northern Ireland and Scotland, Bavaria and Austria, Switzerland, Liechtenstein and Baden Württemberg, Romania and Moldova, Serbia and Montenegro, Southern Cyprus and Greece, Albania and Kosovo, Bulgaria and North Macedonia etc. Plus, Hungary also likes the Hungarian speaking parts of Romania. But I'd still consider Poland Hungary's best friend!
@oman9492
@oman9492 2 жыл бұрын
@@cbhorxo hungarians like Germany not Poland
@csaba9285
@csaba9285 2 жыл бұрын
@@cbhorxo No but seriously I mean it is a REALLY close friendship. We even have a proverb about our friendship that every Polish and Hungarian person knows and an official Polish Hungarian friendship day. Historically, we always backed each other, no matter what, even when we were on opposing sides (see WW2).
@cbhorxo
@cbhorxo 2 жыл бұрын
@@csaba9285 Your point has been acknowledged.
@csaba9285
@csaba9285 2 жыл бұрын
@@oman9492 wrong.
@ilycoco
@ilycoco 2 жыл бұрын
I actually think a better analogy than your New York one is exactly what happened with Texas in the mid 19th century. Texas broke away from Mexico, stayed independent for a few years with backing from the U.S, and then joined the U.S. later without Mexico agreeing to any of it (or acknowledging them for a long time). Texas received more world scale recognition but it’s similar. edit: better us analogy. i assumed you wanted a us one to connect with viewers there.
@SadEyes1412
@SadEyes1412 2 жыл бұрын
@Michelle Nah. You’re just mad because they are right. The comparison is spot on.
@joujou264
@joujou264 2 жыл бұрын
@Michelle Literal history revisionism. The Russians in Ukraine were resettled due to the depopulation caused by WW2 and things like the holodomor. Why do you think the Soviet leadership would even create a Ukrainian Soviet republic with those borders if the eastern and southern parts were effectively russian? Due to some historical Ukrainian state? There was none, only the principality of Kiev, and a couple other principalities, and earlier Kievan Rus'. It's actually funny how Russia's antagonism towards Ukraine helped them solidify into a distinct people group in the modern era, good job. Don't try any propagandist bullshit with me, my country was in the USSR too and has a large russian minority, so your lies will fall on deaf ears if you try them.
@sined911
@sined911 2 жыл бұрын
Never would I have imagined that Russia's strategy for WW3 would start with gaslighting the whole world lmao
@silverletter4551
@silverletter4551 2 жыл бұрын
I would have a bit more respect for them if they just said "I want your land, your resources and your women". Enough of this song and dance as if any rational person thinks that the RF is actually threatened by little old Ukraine next door. God himself couldn't attack and destroy Russia. The only global threat are the twin empires of Russia and China
@Zen-sx5io
@Zen-sx5io 2 жыл бұрын
Russia could gaslight the entire Milky Way.
@speedy01247
@speedy01247 2 жыл бұрын
@@silverletter4551 I'd say what's crazier is that it's working, but after seeing the insanity in the American population, I can no longer agree with that statement, it works because you want to believe it, not because there is really any justification for it.
@gyderian9435
@gyderian9435 2 жыл бұрын
Nordic passport union also includes Finland and Iceland(and Greenland, Faroe Islands and Åland Islands) with Sweden, Norway & Denmark. It was made before Schengen and still applies bcs it grants even more freedoms than Schengen.
@peanutbutterpuppies2756
@peanutbutterpuppies2756 2 жыл бұрын
What do they have against danemark? Actually, bad question.
@AmstradExin
@AmstradExin 2 жыл бұрын
@@peanutbutterpuppies2756 😆
@peanutbutterpuppies2756
@peanutbutterpuppies2756 2 жыл бұрын
Wait I'm blind
@TowardsTheSun
@TowardsTheSun 2 жыл бұрын
A Luhansk guy is here You made a mistake. "People speak Russian" doesn't mean "They are Russians". I speak Russian, but I'm a Ukrainian. Irish mostly speak English, but they are not English, they are still Irish. That's putin's narrative: they speak Russian = they are Russians = I have rights to claim their territory. Don't help him in his propaganda, please. So, how it happened. Words of my grandfather who was born in 1930: "Everyone spoke Ukrainian that time. We could understand Russian, but not many people could speak it. After the famine (artificial famine made by Stalin which killed millions of Ukrainians) the government started to send some Russians and other nationalities of Soviet union to our region. They lived in houses of Ukrainians who died of hunger. We played with Russian kids, they quickly switched into Ukrainian or at least used Ukrainian words for things they saw around. Then more Russians came. Then more. All school education switched into Russian. If you wanted to work for a government or be a teacher or any other not-agricultural-job you had to speak Russian. After WW2 more Russians came to our industrial cities. Year by year all Donbas cities and towns started to speak Russian. Including my grandfather. The countryside spoke Ukrainian. Then it also changed. But many old people in villages still speak Ukrainian.
@TowardsTheSun
@TowardsTheSun 2 жыл бұрын
Now many people who spoke Russian for all their lives, started to speak Ukrainian because of that
@nahometesfay1112
@nahometesfay1112 2 жыл бұрын
Edit: I misread the one of the demographic maps. I was wrong, but I'll leave the comment for posterity. He had two separate demographic maps one for people how speak Russian and people who are ethnically Russian
@santivargasf
@santivargasf 2 жыл бұрын
Russification in action
@compphysgeek
@compphysgeek 2 жыл бұрын
@@TowardsTheSun Thanks for the insight. A reason to stop this nonsense and let the UN take control until everything has been sorted out. Let me just ask you. As far as I am aware, the Minsk Agreements would have guaranteed full Ukrainian control over its borders, OSCE monitoring the situation, guarantees of France, Germany and Russia to protect the territorial integrity of Ukraine. Why did Ukraine decide not to enact the agreements but instead drag out this conflict for 7 years until it escalated to what it is today?
@TowardsTheSun
@TowardsTheSun 2 жыл бұрын
@@nahometesfay1112 I haven't seen it. What's the timecode? I can't find it
@NDO1998
@NDO1998 2 жыл бұрын
Russian here. Just wanted to say -- Stay strong Ukraine! 🇺🇦❤No one in their sane mind here supports what is happening. Pity that there isn't much sane minds left. Still, I do believe that you'll manage to kick out our old, crappy, demented state. Long live Ukraine! 🇺🇦
@mrtony9269
@mrtony9269 2 жыл бұрын
Bot
@tracejones5952
@tracejones5952 2 жыл бұрын
I hope you aren't saying this in Russia. I would be concerned for your safety
@NDO1998
@NDO1998 2 жыл бұрын
@@mrtony9269 Your proofs?
@NDO1998
@NDO1998 2 жыл бұрын
@@tracejones5952 I do, but not on streets. All same as 70 years ago -- kitchen talks between friends. Although, relevant spiteful memes are a new addition to old scheme :D
@user-wx4nv8xr3d
@user-wx4nv8xr3d 2 жыл бұрын
@@tracejones5952 no one gives a crap what some 14 year old says in the privacy of their mom's basement, afterall it's not Canada
@meritfocus
@meritfocus 2 жыл бұрын
Love you energy and excitement for history and maps. Loved watching you cover this topic. Also you skin is looking really good, keep up the routine.
@jamesnewman5204
@jamesnewman5204 2 жыл бұрын
He does need to brush his hair tho lol
@b33thr33kay
@b33thr33kay 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesnewman5204 Hair looks more in need of a wash to me, but to be honest this is the first video I see of him, so what do I know...
@rognii
@rognii 2 жыл бұрын
As a russian I've been completely done with Putin's antics for literal decades now
@enthusiastisch1922
@enthusiastisch1922 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah well I know more Russians who support Putin than you.
@robclark3095
@robclark3095 2 жыл бұрын
@@enthusiastisch1922 Does one of them happen to be the former US President?
@mint8648
@mint8648 2 жыл бұрын
+15 rubles to navalny and cia
@eriklaroi8
@eriklaroi8 2 жыл бұрын
If Putin *truly* believed in self determination of ethnic groups like those in russian enclaves, then what about: Chechnya, Dagestan, Tatarstan, Ossetia, the Turks, the Sami, the Nenets, the Komi-Permyaks, Chukchi, and on and on and on? His human rights abuses and silencing of political opposition? Joining NATO wouldn’t be a problem if Putin didn’t mind losing the opportunity to expand his lebensraum.
@alexanderrobins7497
@alexanderrobins7497 2 жыл бұрын
Don’t forget the Kurds, Rohingya, and Uyghurs. Granted, they are not in Russia.
@mint8648
@mint8648 2 жыл бұрын
only those chechens want independence. and last time russia left that place independent, bad things happened.
@StormCrownSr
@StormCrownSr 2 жыл бұрын
You don't have to be so specific. Just ask Putin about his thoughts on gay Russians.
@vcprocles
@vcprocles 2 жыл бұрын
@@mint8648 Tatars too, they signed a separate agreement to be a part of Russia and have their own president while being a part of the Federation
@mint8648
@mint8648 2 жыл бұрын
@@vcprocles cool, didn’t know they had a president
@galaxypanda1288
@galaxypanda1288 2 жыл бұрын
What concerns me the most about this conflict is how much it would benefit China if NATO goes to war. It takes the words eyes off China and would allow them to likely invade Taiwan.
@harrisonpayne50
@harrisonpayne50 2 жыл бұрын
100% it would be a World War between nato plus some other nations like SK and Japan and an axis of Russia NK and China. Arguably, the US would benefit the most post conflict just as in WW2 because nobody can really bring the war to their core territory.
@santivargasf
@santivargasf 2 жыл бұрын
@@harrisonpayne50 "Nukes, son!"
@jacksononakadelima1802
@jacksononakadelima1802 2 жыл бұрын
@@harrisonpayne50 The world would be destroyed if that happen
@michaelohear8752
@michaelohear8752 2 жыл бұрын
@@jacksononakadelima1802 The world being destroyed is not a guarantee. If everyone uses their nuclear weapons then yes, the world would most likely be destroyed. There is, however, a small chance that the war could be fought using non-nuclear weapons, but even then the only chance at victory is to destroy the russian, chinese, and some of the north korean missiles at some point during the war, or else they will simply take the rest of the world down with them if they realize all hope is lost. So, while very unlikely, there is a small possibility of some form of victory for 1 side.
@td9250
@td9250 2 жыл бұрын
Not if the EU had an army... :
@meandyouagainstthealgorith5787
@meandyouagainstthealgorith5787 2 жыл бұрын
It's always leadership that causes the fight. The US and Mexico became great friends for 20 years between Santa Fe and Missouri. The people mixed and traded until they had an identity crisis. But, the US had been established fifty years earlier and had a more stable government. This gave the US an advantage in war. All it took was for greedy leaders to start a war.
@meandyouagainstthealgorith5787
@meandyouagainstthealgorith5787 2 жыл бұрын
@@koschmx Mixing, as in barrier free, so they could talk and trade. Mexicans could use the Santa Fe trail to trade goods in New York. And Americans could trade in Mexico City.
@meandyouagainstthealgorith5787
@meandyouagainstthealgorith5787 2 жыл бұрын
@@koschmx Nationalism to two countries.
@meandyouagainstthealgorith5787
@meandyouagainstthealgorith5787 2 жыл бұрын
@@koschmx Governments definitely took the opportunity to invade. If my sources are correct, it was an integrated local force that lead the takeover of Alamo with the intention of becoming independent. Texas was to be an independent nation. I think that is what reminded me of Dohetsk and Luhansk because they are evenly split between Russia and Ukraine. Mexico retaliated, and then the United States became involved. Had Mexico not retaliated Texas might still be an independent nation unless the United States was bold about expansionism. There could be questions how that might appear. The yankee northern states might want to side with the Mexicans who also opposed slavery.
@ECFOX909
@ECFOX909 2 жыл бұрын
I think the use of anglosphere countries as examples of that close relationship was a good choice as it is essentially the same relationship Russia has with the Ukraine common history, blood and culture. Using your Canadian-American example as the most apt description, sure we are close that doesn’t mean Canadians fully like the states or vice versa we have notable history even continued today of friendly but sometimes not rivalry with the Americans where we sided both culturally and politically differently for obvious reasons then the Yankees down south similar to the relationship between the Russian Empire and later Soviet Slavic lands as there were geographical, political/cultural and economic reasons we disagreed
@silverletter4551
@silverletter4551 2 жыл бұрын
Don't call us "yankee". thanks.
@sontrombone6907
@sontrombone6907 2 жыл бұрын
Also putin quoted in a blog post about how ukraine and russia are brother nations.
@mar07in
@mar07in 2 жыл бұрын
@@sontrombone6907 Except Russia here is the abusive older brother lmao
@Goracykabanos
@Goracykabanos 2 жыл бұрын
No, it's actually not a similar relationship at all. Just think, how badly would Canadians have to be treated so that, when given a chance, they would do everything to get as far away as possible from the US? You see, the US state never killed generations of Canadians, didn't try to erase their language and culture, didn't orchestrate man-made famines. Drawing such comparisons is misleading as it ignores decades of atrocities that were carried out by Russian "brothers"
@ECFOX909
@ECFOX909 2 жыл бұрын
Yes there are differences in the relationships, I know the Holodomor happened, the policy of Russification in its territory starting with Peter the great, the Russian colonization after the fall of the Crimean khanate that used to rule in the area and subsequent waves of Russians trying to colonize and cement that claim. But it’s the closest relationship that I can think of that is comparable to it in most aspects. Of course it’s reductionist it’s similar but not a 1:1 comparison, that’s impossible. But I would say yes you can make the argument that the 2 relationships are comparable to some degree as there was years of negative bad blood between America and Canada. Canadians or British at the time for years pressed American sailors and American men into the British army and navy, the countless border conflicts and skirmishes, the years of killing each other in the west to secure true dominance of the region. Im sorry but what do you mean about either side not trying to wipe out/erase each other that’s just flat fucking false, the Americans tried to wipe us out several times, tried to annex us and remove our way of life and government from our continent, the American invasion during the revolution, Americans going north to stir rebellion to then have us annexed like they did to Hawaii or Texas, the war of 1812, or manifest destiny, it wasn’t just against Mexico or Latin American countries, They never tried to kill our language as it was the same as theirs granted but our culture yeah they tried that as did we them they were rebels we were loyalists we hated each other. I will reiterate that I never suggested it was the exact same 1:1 but fact of the matter is Russian and Ukrainian have a common origin with the same Viking ruling class of the rus that unified them with the rurkid dynasty, they had the same proto-Slavic which started to differentiate into the modern languages and not to mention the years they spent as principalities with Russians and Ruthenians or Ukrainians living all across rus territory, the years of mongol oppression, the foundation of the Slavonic Orthodox Church which culturally is deeply intertwined in both and helped found the Russian and Ukrainian identities. As a comparable the amount of bad blood between them there is comparison to be made to that of Canada and America as both relationships had years upon years of violence and animosity towards each other, a very similar culture coming from a common origin, a founding story that each other are a part of. But since they aren’t the same countries with the same regional histories there are differences, there were no artificial famines, years of American or Canadian oppression for sure which granted is a big difference. But as an insight for a foreigner who is not versed in the nuances of the full history and situation. I think it’s an apt starting point to forming an understanding of the deep and interesting relationship that not many outside the region know.
@trayambakrai
@trayambakrai 2 жыл бұрын
My cousin is stuck in Kiev right now and they're telling us that they hear explosions constantly, I feel horrible for him but he didn't listen to our warnings. 😟
@michaelfink64
@michaelfink64 2 жыл бұрын
If the main concern of Russia is that Ukraine might join NATO and the main feature of NATO is that an attack on any NATO county is considered an attack on the whole of MATO, why would Russia be concerned if they were never going to attack Ukraine?
@incompetence10881
@incompetence10881 2 жыл бұрын
Because Russia doesn't want Western Influence anywhere near Russia and because Russia is an Oligarchy led by Putin. It's the same reason the PRC has kept North Korea around, they don't care if South Korea is apart of the West as long as it isn't on their doorstep. You don't want your ideological opponent to be on your doorstep and provide easy view as to what the alternative is to your citizens. I highly doubt Russia actually wants to invade Ukraine but they would most likely view Ukraine joining NATO as a infringement on their own Sovereignty
@vahivsky
@vahivsky 2 жыл бұрын
It's not an only feature of NATO, another one is building military infrastructure close to someone's borders, deploying forces, missiles, armored units. Just out of 'self-defence' they say, but we all know that is not always the case. NATO keeps participating in military conflicts here and there, while it has never been attacked before.
@silverletter4551
@silverletter4551 2 жыл бұрын
@@incompetence10881 That only happens from the view of barbaric imperialists. No rational country has such a point of view
@dzungnguyenduc8556
@dzungnguyenduc8556 2 жыл бұрын
@@silverletter4551 then what the hell is the Cuban Missile Risk, why can't Cuba join USSR and why USA still put santion over it. Because no one sure your neighbor who join an alliance which was created solely to defend against you won't one day use the so call 'defend' weapon to fire right straight into your bedroom. Like many says, "best defend is offence", same as USA and NATO fighting terrorist in foreign countries, why the heck not one day they declare Putin is 'a terrorist' and just straight up launch the 'defend' missile put in Ukraine. You may think everyone is free to do anything they one, even on national level like I join whatever alliance I want and no one will insanely attack me,
@ghirahimlefabuleux8984
@ghirahimlefabuleux8984 2 жыл бұрын
@@silverletter4551 "rational country" You are delusional or you overdosed on your prefered dose of propaganda.
@karloskarlinderstrom6943
@karloskarlinderstrom6943 2 жыл бұрын
Russia: invades Ukraine and takes crimea. Also Russia: 😮😮😮😮😮, i can't believe you don't like me anymore.
@siyacer
@siyacer 2 жыл бұрын
Not even that, they annexed the most pro-Russian sides of the country and then act surprised when the rest of the country starts to hate them even more.
@alexanderrobins7497
@alexanderrobins7497 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: Since 2014, many Ukrainians who could only speak Russian learned Ukrainian to stop speaking Russian.
@mint8648
@mint8648 2 жыл бұрын
Because of a western coup
@ByZHellas
@ByZHellas 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexanderrobins7497 Russians in Donbas took up arms against UkrIne because Ukraine was censoring their language as wel as other minorities.
@alexanderrobins7497
@alexanderrobins7497 2 жыл бұрын
@@ByZHellas I cannot speak to the specifics about cultures and laws of each country, but I would need sources to verify that claim since that sounds like it could be Kremlin propaganda. I have heard that while those regions have a higher ratio of Russia sympathizers, Russians have flooded the area recently to skew it even farther.
@oliverqueen5883
@oliverqueen5883 2 жыл бұрын
15:36 As an *actual* Irish person (born and bred) who now has lived in the UK for basically the other half of my life, I love the UK too. Granted, not as much as Ireland, but none of this we hate each other nonsense. That’s more of a Northern Irish sectarian extremist thing.
@romanianturk2101
@romanianturk2101 2 жыл бұрын
I'd see you open your mail and there might be something interesting there. Or try running your car!
@ibx2cat
@ibx2cat 2 жыл бұрын
I'm technically an actual Irish person too because of my grandparent lol
@romanianturk2101
@romanianturk2101 2 жыл бұрын
@@ibx2cat british irish srilanakan man. Dang what's next? 😂
@justinallen2408
@justinallen2408 2 жыл бұрын
Damn must no nothing about your history then cx and why wouldn't you want a full Ireland or are you Irish always gonna bend over for the British?
@ibx2cat
@ibx2cat 2 жыл бұрын
Looking into acquiring some new citizenships in future, always!
@hugok3340
@hugok3340 2 жыл бұрын
"Ukraine is an inalienable part of our own history." hmmmm sounds really familiar to a Taiwanese
@Ussurin
@Ussurin 2 жыл бұрын
Using Kievan Rus as justficiation for imperial ambitions is really bad. Poland is as much of inheritor of Kievan Rus legacy as Russia is. Polish Crown actually inherited parts of Kievan Rus while Muscovites just broke away and joined Mongols. The true inheritors of Kievan Rus history are obviouslu Ukrainians. If anything Kievan Rus history gives Ukraine a casus belli on Russia, not the other way around.
@quakeknight9680
@quakeknight9680 2 жыл бұрын
Those where all eastern slavs as in 1 nation Not just Ukraine, genius
@Ussurin
@Ussurin 2 жыл бұрын
@@quakeknight9680 yes, but as ot was monarchy, the inheritance of it follows royal rules. Muscovites, current Russia, didn't inherit any claim to royal throne of Kievan Rus, instead they broke away and claimed loyalty to invading Mongols. The Kievan Throne after the disintegration of royal bloodline of Kiev also pretty much disintegrated as Kievan Rus fell apart, but amongst many regions gaining independence due to the event, such as Novogrod or Minsk, Red Ruthenia was actually inherited by Polish Throne, while main crown of Kievan Rus stayed with inheritors of Kiev. Then Kiev, Minsk and other small remnants of Kievan Rus signed their fielty to Grand Duchy of Lithuania, which in time integrated them into Lithuania. Then Lithuania signed over lands of modern Ukraine to Polish Crown. And finally in 1920s during Polish-Soviet War Poland recognized Ukraine and it's capital as Kiev as independent nation with its roots in Kievan Rus history. Therefore it's Ukraine that is lawful inheritor of Kievan Rus history and even if we somehow claim that this isn't valid, then Poland and Lithuania are in the line for the claim before Russia is. So Russia has no grounds to claim Ukraine other than right of conquest. Which you loose when you loose your conquest, ie. country starts to self-govern without asking you just as Ukraine did.
@rreevv.
@rreevv. 2 жыл бұрын
It’s almost tradition to split the Polish between Russia and Germany
@EgnachHelton
@EgnachHelton 2 жыл бұрын
We should call them not Russian but Muscovites... Also we should bring back Tatars and Mongolian hordes who are the real legitimate owners of this land... /s
@MrKakibuy
@MrKakibuy 2 жыл бұрын
@@EgnachHelton No thanks
@Yuuzu
@Yuuzu 2 жыл бұрын
the cat keeping us up to date, thanks
@Papershields001
@Papershields001 2 жыл бұрын
Well your prediction that “this is as far as Russia will go” didn’t age well.
@robertbones326
@robertbones326 2 жыл бұрын
I'm in Rio de Janeiro and met a Russian woman. When she first told me I was like Russia??? YOU'RE FR OM RUSSIA!!??!? THAT COUNTRY LIKE, YOU KNOW. it made me feel for blaming/judging Russia. I hope we find a diplomatic solution. she was nice and said Russians aren't allowed to criticise their government. she said she didn't agree with them.
@keizervanenerc5180
@keizervanenerc5180 2 жыл бұрын
Putin: YOU TURNED HER AGAINST ME EU/US/NATO: YOU HAVE DONE THAT YOURSELF
@bennelong8451
@bennelong8451 2 жыл бұрын
There was a pro USA/EU coup tho
@mar07in
@mar07in 2 жыл бұрын
@@bennelong8451 True, but that was because the leader then broke their promise to sign an agreement with the EU and NATO.
@gyderian9435
@gyderian9435 2 жыл бұрын
@@bennelong8451 it's almost like the president promised to sign agreements with the EU and got elected on that promise, then after elections he decided to side with putin instead. The people didn't like that and overthrew him
@siyacer
@siyacer 2 жыл бұрын
@@bennelong8451 Weird how democracies work, where if you promise something but don't do it, you get kicked out of office.
@bennelong8451
@bennelong8451 2 жыл бұрын
@@siyacer Biden promised 2k monthly stimulus checks where they at
@jlewwis1995
@jlewwis1995 2 жыл бұрын
Haven't watched the whole video yet obviously but hopefully you cover how the russian ambassador (or whatever position they are idk) at the UN security council meeting earlier was a weasely little liar and said russia didn't sign the minsk agreement when they clearly did 🤔 I'm surprised no one called him out on that
@catboynestormakhno2694
@catboynestormakhno2694 2 жыл бұрын
I mean they did sign it but also have broken it a lot of times, so they might as well not have singed it you know
@jlewwis1995
@jlewwis1995 2 жыл бұрын
@@catboynestormakhno2694 well yeah that's pretty obvious lol, but I mean it's one thing to say we don't care about it another to say they didn't sign it to begin with, if they were just willing to be honest and say they don't care about the minsk agreement anymore I'm sure that wouldn't have gone over particularly well from an optics standpoint but pretty much everyone with half a brain cell knows they don't care already which is why they're invading 😂
@blackchrysler
@blackchrysler 2 жыл бұрын
Russia was an observer in the Minsk agreement, they never signed it.
@jlewwis1995
@jlewwis1995 2 жыл бұрын
@@blackchrysler is that so? On wikipedia this is what it has to say about the signatories: SignatoriesEdit The document was signed by:[44] Separatist's leaders Alexander Zakharchenko and Igor Plotnitsky Swiss diplomat and OSCE representative Heidi Tagliavini Former president of Ukraine and Ukrainian representative Leonid Kuchma Russian Ambassador to Ukraine and Russian representative Mikhail Zurabov Seems pretty clear cut to me, do you have evidence that suggests otherwise?
@blackchrysler
@blackchrysler 2 жыл бұрын
@@jlewwis1995 Well thats what it says on Wikipedia. Those are editted publically by random people. Also, if during the UN meeting the russian ambassador was lying, why didn’t anyone else bring it up! I personally trust actual politicians over some random people on wikipedia.
@ZeteticPhilosopher
@ZeteticPhilosopher 2 жыл бұрын
Oh boy. Can’t wait for the pro-Russian bots and trolls in this comment section. Props to you Toycat for covering this despite the inevitable hate.
@issholland
@issholland 2 жыл бұрын
There's no hate on KZbin anymore they removed us seeing the dislikes!
@siyacer
@siyacer 2 жыл бұрын
Right on
@mint8648
@mint8648 2 жыл бұрын
How do i apply
@douglasfortnite7143
@douglasfortnite7143 2 жыл бұрын
Why is it that anyone that actually doesn’t take the “western point of view” is always considered a Russia or Chinese bot or troll??
@issholland
@issholland 2 жыл бұрын
@@douglasfortnite7143 my point of view is wide Putin
@paulrouth5997
@paulrouth5997 2 жыл бұрын
The map of NATO and Russia control from 1951 would look quite different only four years later when the Warsaw Pact was established. Even though it doesn't show on the map from 1951 Russia had control of those countries and weren't giving them up. They are the ones who gave up their empire when they couldn't sustain it any longer and now they are trying to expand back into those areas of their old empire. The rule of Putin has led to damage to their country economically by his replacing one set of oligarchs (who supported Boris) to a new set that supports him. I think Russia will collapse again economically, and not that many decades from now.
@alexpotts6520
@alexpotts6520 2 жыл бұрын
The whole "oh but there are Russian-speaking people living in Eastern Ukraine" thing is no more logical a pretext for invasion than it would be for the USA to invade Canada or the UK to invade Ireland "because they speak English".
@amongus-od2rd
@amongus-od2rd 2 жыл бұрын
the thing is, unlike Canada or UK, russian-speaking people in ukraine are threatened by nationalists, neo-nazis and radicals, which are not being stopped by the ukraine goverment. And that is happening for 8 years.
@mj72633
@mj72633 2 жыл бұрын
@@amongus-od2rd exactly, and these people were supported by Western powers
@superslime16th
@superslime16th 2 жыл бұрын
@@amongus-od2rd true
@ryanallen2647
@ryanallen2647 2 жыл бұрын
If the United States did this you would be saying well thats part of America I'm not letting China come here. Same thing.
@alexpotts6520
@alexpotts6520 2 жыл бұрын
@@amongus-od2rd This is true, but not in the way you think it is. The nationalists and neo-nazis are there all right, but they're coming over the border from Russia...
@vtheman1850
@vtheman1850 2 жыл бұрын
One thing that commentators seem to miss when discussing this is Kosovo, and the precedent it set when it declared independence in violation of the UN Resolution 1244. I'm not making a statement on what happened there, their right or lack thereof , but it is important to understand that from the Kremlins perspective, the precedent for what they are doing right now, has already been set in 2008, and recognized by most of the western world. Funnily enough the at the time actually democratic government of Serbia warned of these very tactics, there is a rather sobering address at the UN by the then Serbian Minister of Foreign Affairs. It outlined some of the problems that seem to be proliferating. Unfortunately this will pass, so what is next? Moldova? Catalonia? Northern Ireland? Scotland? The world is rife with contested areas and borders. This is just a continuation of a can of worms opened more than a decade ago.
@neventomicic330
@neventomicic330 2 жыл бұрын
And what about what happened in all 10 years in Yugoslavia before Kosovo? due to the facts what Serbia and Milosevic did, after 4 deadly wars initiated by Serbia, and 1 million refugees from Kosovo allone, all other ex-Yugoslav countries gladly accepted the Kosovar independence. Not even Montenegrians trust Serbs any more.
@vtheman1850
@vtheman1850 2 жыл бұрын
​@@neventomicic330 It's not about who did what to whom. Honestly I am a Serb, but I've tried to accept the horrors that went on, and by my own example show the world that those atrocities were committed by monsters. On every side. To show the patriots of my country that the people who adorned themselves with the two headed eagle and slaughtered innocents are not Heroes, but traitors usurping the history of our nation and the symbolism of our struggle for independence. If you hit me, then I hit you back, then your son strikes me , then my son strikes him... It gets us nowhere. Justice is not about retaliation, it is about justice appropriately trying people for the crimes they have committed and administering punishment. And just about every single commander or official involved in that was extradited and faced trial. Many were convicted some were not. Operation "Storm" (Oluja) is celebrated as a Holiday in Croatia. To half a million people it is in fact the day they were forced to leave their homes. It isn't about trying to paint history in one light or another, or to point fingers that... you did this because they did that. The fact of the matter stands, that purely, observing the legal framework that governs international relations, Kosovo's proclamation of independence was illegal. I'd say I represent many , many people in Serbia ages 20-40, that have no quarrel with Kosovars. Personally? I believe that the people of a nation should have a right to self governance, I believe in libertarianism(personally) in minimal government intrusions and the rights of individuals to self determination. I really, truly do respect the desire of the People of Kosovo to live in a separate state. It's not a cop out. If we preserve the historical monuments and open the two nations towards each other than these very same issues will stop self perpetuating. If I were to look at the situation through the lens of history I could make two dozen claims about how and why the demographics shifted etc etc etc... But it is ultimately unproductive and irrelevant. The reality on the ground is that they wish independence, and I believe they should have the right to do so. And would even argue that, had it come without the violence both nations would be far more prosperous today. Ultimately I refuse to be a slave to the hatreds of previous generations. My great grandfather fought alongside the French and the Russians, his son at the side of Americans and the British, his sons still against them.... I've friends from well to quote the US Marines "Halls of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli" I don't want you to feel aversion towards this part of the Balkans. I want you to come over and have fun Skiing on Zlatibor and Tara, the same way I've had fun with Amazing Croats in Dubrovnik and Zadar.
@DAoutaouais
@DAoutaouais 2 жыл бұрын
@@vtheman1850 It is SO refreshing and reassuring, reading these words from someone from a country where, for so long, patriotism was seen as a virtue, but SO MANY had been convinced that, to be a proper patriot, you also needed to be a xenophobic zealot... even among the well-educated. I mean no offence, but you must know the sorts of people I'm talking about. They were (are?) real, and far too common for comfort. In 2007, I visited Belgrade (and I would love to again) to see an Icelandic friend of mine, who had married a Serbian woman. He had settled in well, working at a private school, where he was teaching Arkan's kid (imagine meeting Ceca at parent-teacher night!). He told me about an international football match he'd attended, with the Bosnian national team. Police were ready, and had separated the fans, but that didn't stop the home crowd from tearing up the seats, to throw them (and firecrackers) onto the field, chanting, "Sre - bre - nit - sa!". I just hope that you are far more representative of today's Serbian society than those animals at the football ground.
@vtheman1850
@vtheman1850 2 жыл бұрын
The Balkans are a complicated subject but only really due to recent history(20Th century), and the "Land of Blood and Honey" which the name implies, contrary to popular belief doesn't stem from a warlike past, but rather the Ottoman difficulties in subduing the populations. In truth, the genetic studies of the area show that we really are incredibly homogenous people, and barring what i like to call the "Dereticization"(A dumbass Serbian quasi historian) of history we have lived side by side and assisted one another numerous times. Croats, Albanians, Bosnian Dukes.... all fought on KOSOVO... Against the Ottomans, side by side as the Croat nobility even managed to employ the assistance of the Knights hospitaler. Many unbiased records exist, Yes the Serbs made up the majority of the military but it was a joint effort. For over a thousand years we co existed and shared in our strife and struggles, Our kings married one another, our people traded with each other. We clashed as every nation did, but the French and the British have a far more deeply rooted history of Antagonism than we do. Sadly the 90's gave rise to prominent figures like Arkan, Thompson, Tudjman, Thaci(Who is actually on trial for war crimes now at long last). And people seem to have internalized these division very deeply. That being said, most normal folks really, simply don't have the energy, I'm 35 years old, and when I look back all I can see is ruination of all of our countries. They robbed us of our childhoods, our formative and teenage years were spent in the Armies of our countries uneasily watching 70 years of repression unravel. Today most of us aren't keen to sacrifice the childhoods of our children for the very same barbaric idealisms. Yes there are still idiots, but there are dumbasses in DC/London/Berlin... wherever you go. For reference, a mural of Ratko Mladic(A Bosnian Serb war criminal) was recently painted on a building in a residential part of Belgrade. The locals unanimously condemned, protested and campaigned to have it removed. It shows you the real, national sentiment... we are tired of it... we've all gone hungry, without electricity, we've all had to explain to our kids that they can't have that toy... or that TV... or that game console what have you, and no one is keen to go back to it. The topic of Kosovo is taboo in Serbian politics, as 13 years later we are yet to have a public debate or god forbid a referendum. It is a card used to appeal to the nationalistic voters. For reference... every time you hear about any issues in Kosovo, just do a google check and you will see, it coincides with Elections in Serbia/Albania or on Kosovo :D Think about it, in the Balkans it's "Ustaso!" "Cedo!" "Poturice" etc... but when a Serb and a Croat meet in Germany or the states its "My Bro!" "Ah we're the same shit you and I".... I kind of just don't give a shit anymore, come over and have a beer, if the idiots want to duke it out... we've plenty of open fields to let em have at it... give evolution a bit of a nudge lol.
@DAoutaouais
@DAoutaouais 2 жыл бұрын
@@vtheman1850 From what you've written, it sounds like attitudes have improved even further than where they were when I visited, 15 years ago. Even at that point, I would meet people - who would make assumptions about me, because I was from a Western country - who said they (as Serbs) resented being painted as the "bad guy" in the Western press (truly, Croatian & Bosniak atrocities were reported less often), but, at the same time, see that some of these same people really revelled in playing the role of the bad guy; making attempts to intimidate or provoke me, but not in a truly serious way. Even then (circa 2005), when my Icelandic friend and his Serbian wife went on their honeymoon, to Dubrovnik, she encountered some antagonistic behaviour from locals. It's good to hear that, in your experience, intra-Yugoslav interactions are generally far more harmonious now. However, you will have a generation of people, out in the diaspora - especially among war refugees - who will hold onto that resentment or hatred, because of terrible things that happened to them, or that they witnessed. I have a Bosniak friend, in Edinburgh, who never wants to hear a word about my travel to Yugoslavia, simply because I had only visited Belgrade, and the last place he lived before moving to Scotland was a transit camp, in the middle of the war. I don't know what can be done for these people - to heal them - if anything, at all. I've encouraged him to get his Scottish-raised kids fully registered with Bosnian citizenship and passports, so they might travel there - maybe stay and work for a summer - so that they can get to know the place in this new, peaceful era.
@gcm4156
@gcm4156 2 жыл бұрын
pretty good video and helps me understand the other side of the conflict well
@NedJeffery
@NedJeffery 2 жыл бұрын
12:00 Just want point out that blocking access to NATO is not the same as handing Ukraine over to Russia. Ukraine can still have pro-Western policies without playing host to the NATO army.
@IVaV1
@IVaV1 2 жыл бұрын
It's not an invasion, 'cause using your logic Russian troops were already in eastern Ukraine since 2014, so in theory this is a continuation of the Russo-Ukrainian war, not a new invasion of the country
@harry.flashman
@harry.flashman 2 жыл бұрын
Another great information packed video. Good stuff dude.
@jeffkaylin892
@jeffkaylin892 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for such a well-rounded commentary.
@danielgn7849
@danielgn7849 2 жыл бұрын
What if Ukraine invaded Russia first ha got em
@norwegianboyee
@norwegianboyee 2 жыл бұрын
Russia is manufacturing fake stories about Ukrainian aggression every single day. If Ukrainia actually was stupid enough to make an assault upon Russia it would be the perfect excuse for Putin to state that "this confirms Ukraine is an Western puppet regime" and invade the entire country.
@danielgn7849
@danielgn7849 2 жыл бұрын
@@norwegianboyee jeg var ikke serr ass
@siyacer
@siyacer 2 жыл бұрын
Russian propaganda will probably spin it up as such.
@marcschaeffer1584
@marcschaeffer1584 2 жыл бұрын
The other "s" in ussr represents "socialist" Not a good thing to forget.
@Duaresma7
@Duaresma7 2 жыл бұрын
Socialism was not a bad thing.Take my father's family as an example.During Tito's time,his dad was a butcher and earned around 1250 euroes a month while his mom carred about 3 of them.With that money they could afford food,go on vacations every summer and winter and everyone was equal in yugoslavia.
@alexandremachado2019
@alexandremachado2019 2 жыл бұрын
@@Duaresma7 almost everyone inside yugoslavia also hated yugoslavia as a thing
@Duaresma7
@Duaresma7 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexandremachado2019 Still,in tito's time public opinions were very sensitive
@marcschaeffer1584
@marcschaeffer1584 2 жыл бұрын
@@Duaresma7 over the last hundred years quality of life shot up a few hundred percent. So under socialism life got 10× better for you? Sure, I buy that, but I got 100× better for people not under socialism.
@sebastianroballo
@sebastianroballo 2 жыл бұрын
As a Venezuelan I agree.
@minecraftguy3657
@minecraftguy3657 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you TOYCAT for taking the time to make this video and your research and explanations that followed very much appreciated
@zrimm15
@zrimm15 2 жыл бұрын
Man this video is all over the shop.. It's great!
@primerib01
@primerib01 2 жыл бұрын
1849 Crimean War, England and France tried to lock Russia away from warm water access, and dictate terms of trade in the Black Sea .Sweden tried to stop Russian access to the Baltic Sea long ago. 1941 Nazi Europe tried to destroy and partition Russia - lebensraum and cordon sanitare, etc. Look back to the 1380's and the invasions from the south from coalition armies of many different tribes. It is continuous and a real heart ache. It is complicated situation.
@smpark12
@smpark12 2 жыл бұрын
We should’ve let the USSR join NATO when they asked
@victorillo377
@victorillo377 2 жыл бұрын
This is the first video I see from this second channel, and I didn't even know this channel exists! Thx for the info
@Pining_for_the_fjords
@Pining_for_the_fjords 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the analysis. I'd never tried to look at the situation from Putin's perspective before. There are, however, two points I disagree with. 1. Just because the majority of the populations of the regions in question are ethnically Russian, that doesn't give Russia right to the land. Putin can always give the people Russian citizenship and let them live in Russia if they want to, like the UK offered Hong Kongers UK citizenship last year in response to their crisis with China. That doesn't require an invasion. Imagine if a load of ethnically French Brits lived on the Isle of Weight, and they held a referendum that they wanted to join France. Would that give France the right to invade the Isle of Weight? As far as international law is concerned, I don't know, but it doesn't feel right. If they want to be independent states, and can reasonably sustain themselves independently, then fine. But declaring independence solely to join another state, seems wrong. 2. The example of various US states breaking away to join other countries doesn't quite work if you're comparing it to formet USSR countries joining NATO, as NATO isn't a country, but a security alliance, formed (as far as I understand) to protect its members from Russian aggression. Russia threatening Ukraine not to join NATO sounds like a burglar threatening somebody not to buy home security.
@basedstreamingatcozy-dot-t7126
@basedstreamingatcozy-dot-t7126 2 жыл бұрын
1. If the UK mistreated those french people on the isle of weight, and those frenchmen rose up in arms against them, then yes, France would be justified in going in there to protect their people. 2. You're forgetting that it's not just a security alliance, America puts missiles and military bases in those countries. Missiles right next to your borders is what cause the cuban missile crisis.
@Pining_for_the_fjords
@Pining_for_the_fjords 2 жыл бұрын
@@basedstreamingatcozy-dot-t7126 How are the people of Donetsk and Donbas being mistreated by Ukraine? I've heard that line a lot from Putin, but haven't heard of any actual examples. Anyway your response is a but late, as Putin has shown that his invasion of these two cities was a pretext to invad the entire country, negating any narrative of "peacekeeping" he made at first. Russia is now the enemy of the world. The invasion that began yesterday will be compared to the invasion of Poland in 1939, and being a Russian sympathiser will carry the same stigma as being a nazi sympathiser. Think carefully before taking sides in this futile conflict.
@jackattack9678
@jackattack9678 2 жыл бұрын
@@Pining_for_the_fjords ​ @Pining for the fjords I believe Putin repeats that line because Ukraine has refused to give in to the Russian separatists who declared independence, and instead of diplomatically resolving the issue, Ukraine sent in their army and pro-government militias to fight the separatists. Ukraine's government killed over 7,000 of its citizens who wished to be independent and injured many thousands more, as well as launching missiles and mines into residential areas killing civilians. Of the 1.4 million civilians who fled the territories over the last 8 years, the majority moved to Russia to escape persecution from Ukraine. The fact that 2.7 of the 3 million inhabitants who stayed in the area chose to live in the Separatist-held regions, despite the threat of attack from Ukraine instead of fleeing into Ukrainian-held territory speaks volumes. Is Putin using this real fact as an excuse to invade the rest of Ukraine? - yes, but that wasn't what you asked. According to Russia, the invasion is to end Ukraine's military attacks against its separatist population and force them to recognize independence. We shall see if that is another excuse or if they hold true to their word.
@samyacoub4858
@samyacoub4858 2 жыл бұрын
Basically the change is that the Russian soldiers in Donbass will wear uniforms
@pocketmarcy6990
@pocketmarcy6990 2 жыл бұрын
And there will be more of them
@markusklyver6277
@markusklyver6277 2 жыл бұрын
yeah sad
@IlyaKargin
@IlyaKargin 2 жыл бұрын
Cool hypotetical examples with USA states but there was very real example of Cuban Crisis actually that could be mentioned
@mateuszczapski3003
@mateuszczapski3003 2 жыл бұрын
I love how he sounds and looks so happy talking about this, especially in the intro
@notzaran5977
@notzaran5977 2 жыл бұрын
I was searching on KZbin about war elephants in Ptolemaic Egypt and instead stumbled upon ibx's channel about politics. Wtf is going with my life
@aswfabt
@aswfabt 2 жыл бұрын
lol
@tzhongyan2
@tzhongyan2 2 жыл бұрын
you are blessed by the algorithm
@isaacpowrie465
@isaacpowrie465 2 жыл бұрын
The algorithm has led you here to this channel. Its guidance is legendary. Or war elephants in Ptolemaic Egypt is closely related to this subject. Lol.
@davidcooks2379
@davidcooks2379 2 жыл бұрын
A bit dumb to say "NATO has been courting Ukraine and Georgia". Ukraine and Georgia have been begging to join and NATO has been saying no
@auberginemanproductions1608
@auberginemanproductions1608 2 жыл бұрын
Ehhh, Ukraine and NATO have been off and on since the late 90's. They're like exes who keep getting back together again only to break up six months later
@YaBuddyEdwards
@YaBuddyEdwards 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for explaining
@jjguppy6
@jjguppy6 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly I don’t watch your old channel but I like this channel
@renderproductions1032
@renderproductions1032 2 жыл бұрын
Let’s spend some time to talk about Toycat’s gaming chair like he did at Minecraft live. Also you didn’t blur it.
@mrcolz9373
@mrcolz9373 2 жыл бұрын
Update: he legit invaded Ukraine
@TheRandom_Channel_idk
@TheRandom_Channel_idk 2 жыл бұрын
Where did you find the apolitical map? Couldn't find it because clicking on full map will give me a part of of the world that's kinda low quality.
@lucasharvey8990
@lucasharvey8990 2 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@PeoplecallmeLucifer
@PeoplecallmeLucifer 2 жыл бұрын
TBH the situation might not escalate. Russians are kind of experts for Frozen conflicts and unrecognized nations. Look at Abkhazia and South Ossetia situations
@norwegianboyee
@norwegianboyee 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah there are a lot of territory that is effectively controlled and administered by Russia but not "technically" their territory or recognized as such by all nations. Kuril Islands in Japan was taken in WW2 for no real reason and not given back to Japan, with the justification that the two states are still "technically at war" even today, even though it's been over 70 years since any actual fighting between the two nations, and it being obvious Japan would not wish to provoke an attack today. But as Russia can flex it's muscles they are allowed to keep their side of the lunchtable they stole without anyone daring to voice back at it.
@PeoplecallmeLucifer
@PeoplecallmeLucifer 2 жыл бұрын
@@norwegianboyee actually there is a good reason for the Kuril islands. They close Russia off to the Pacific.
@DAoutaouais
@DAoutaouais 2 жыл бұрын
@@PeoplecallmeLucifer If the question was, "For what strategic reason might Russia occupy the Kuril Islands?", your answer is absolutely correct. However, my impression was @Norwegianboy EE was looking for a legal or historical reason. On that front, since the early 19th century, each country exercised control over varying proportions of the island chain - all the way from Hokkaido to Kamchatka - depending on how their most recent conflict ended, and the treaty that followed it. The same back-and-forth dynamic was played out over the much larger island of Sakhalin. 1905 was particularly embarrassing for Russian naval power. Forty years later, when Japan's surrender to the Allies (of which the USSR was a member) signalled the end of the Second World War, the Soviet Union controlled all of the Kuril Islands, except for the four closest to Japan (populated with Japanese). So, the USSR wasn't closed-off from the Pacific at the time the Japanese laid down arms, but the Soviets attacked and occupied these last four islands anyway, deporting the surviving residents a couple of years later.
@marcuspoosz2190
@marcuspoosz2190 2 жыл бұрын
that didn't age well.
@PeoplecallmeLucifer
@PeoplecallmeLucifer 2 жыл бұрын
@@marcuspoosz2190 ..... that... I agree with. in my defence I said "Might not" ... ever the optimist 'XD
@g4fly4ever8
@g4fly4ever8 2 жыл бұрын
And so it begins
@SolarisGO
@SolarisGO 2 жыл бұрын
I love your passion for maps and the world and stuff! Perhaps more than your passion for Minecraft even, but maybe less than the third channel fast food reviews
@w3tking486
@w3tking486 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine having to live next to Russia, couldn’t be me *Living in Alaska*
@fringeflix
@fringeflix 2 жыл бұрын
I can't wait for them to do this again next year and then also get away with it.
@avus-kw2f213
@avus-kw2f213 2 жыл бұрын
All Russia did was send their peace keepers to countries which are recognised by several countries in the United Nations
@fringeflix
@fringeflix 2 жыл бұрын
@@avus-kw2f213 They were explicitly told not to on multiple occasions, yet they did so anyways. They have the right to do what they wish, but if they go against what the entirety of NATO (and a plurality of other non-NATO countries) says, then they are going to be solely responsible for that. Besides, it's overwhelmingly obvious this is only being done to shoehorn an actual invasion of Ukraine.
@pocketmarcy6990
@pocketmarcy6990 2 жыл бұрын
@@avus-kw2f213 absolutely no country on Earth recognizes the breakaway states in the Donbas, only Russia does, unless you’re referring to something else
@avus-kw2f213
@avus-kw2f213 2 жыл бұрын
@@fringeflix then explain Kosovo
@avus-kw2f213
@avus-kw2f213 2 жыл бұрын
@@pocketmarcy6990 Syria
@poison_2138
@poison_2138 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine they only took over Chernobyl and Pripyat
@Youtube123Viewer
@Youtube123Viewer 2 жыл бұрын
just did
@Syne7h
@Syne7h 2 жыл бұрын
Whaa? Not a bad video. A good video. Ty Toycat!
@wannabehistorian371
@wannabehistorian371 2 жыл бұрын
Russia: You turned Ukraine against me! The west: You did that yourself!
@mint8648
@mint8648 2 жыл бұрын
2014 coup
@JH-jk3nm
@JH-jk3nm 2 жыл бұрын
The issue is that Ukraine joining NATO only hurts Russia’s selfish expansionist goals. NATO is a defensive treaty. It will never invade and Russia know this.
@KingAGBozz
@KingAGBozz 2 жыл бұрын
It will never invade? Lol you believe this fairytale?
@Kha_57
@Kha_57 2 жыл бұрын
Nato invaded the middle east for personal gain. Block your buttholw. Don't speak nonsense
@speedy01247
@speedy01247 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kha_57 does that justify Russia invading Ukraine? If person a steals from person b does that justify person c stealing from person d?
@douglasfortnite7143
@douglasfortnite7143 2 жыл бұрын
@@speedy01247 they aren’t going to invade Ukraine. These regions are the most they are gonna get. And I agree with them. These people want to be independent from have been wanting for a long time. And it’s not one of those puppet things to replace one with another. For example when they had their first election after declaring independence, the candidates had to be living in those regions for the past 10 years. That is very logical to me. USA and the west recognize places around the world they want, so why can’t russia
@Kha_57
@Kha_57 2 жыл бұрын
@@speedy01247 From the British empire, American Revolution, UsD replaced British currency. The west desire to control the world through oppressive methods. Who gave them this right to oppresse other's. Countries which doesn't share the same ideologies with the west face embargo and sanctions. Who gave them this right. Before you ever open your mouth. Study the subject first.
@Tekstar85
@Tekstar85 2 жыл бұрын
Did you really think they would shout on every roof they declared war? We ain't in the 39's anymore.
@endrankluvsda4loko172
@endrankluvsda4loko172 2 жыл бұрын
Hmm, I was never all that great in history classes, but something about this reminds me of something that happened right before WW2.
@m0ust4s22
@m0ust4s22 2 жыл бұрын
interesting summary love it
@BeStRavenclaw
@BeStRavenclaw 2 жыл бұрын
Country friends: did you know the funny relationship Switzerland and Liechtenstein have I mean the people of Lichtenstein are counted as Swiss in things like Corona statistics and so on
@alexanderg1297
@alexanderg1297 2 жыл бұрын
Meanwhile 1/4 of my country would rather blame the previous administration for what’s going on, rather than the administration currently in office.
@RukarioEnterprisesLLC
@RukarioEnterprisesLLC 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't know that he has a econd channel! Great Job Ibxtoycat!
@JackBlackNinja
@JackBlackNinja 2 жыл бұрын
great shit, your content is the best
@ethanfrancis4527
@ethanfrancis4527 2 жыл бұрын
I really fricking hope this isn't going to end in nuclear war. This is the first western war in quite a long time
@Warrenbowser3
@Warrenbowser3 2 жыл бұрын
No one in the west is involved
@TinyBearTim
@TinyBearTim 2 жыл бұрын
Why tf would we drop nukes because if the Ukraine
@A.Martin
@A.Martin 2 жыл бұрын
@@Warrenbowser3 oh they will be.
@andriaglavcic6392
@andriaglavcic6392 2 жыл бұрын
The west is not, and probably will not get involved
@Warrenbowser3
@Warrenbowser3 2 жыл бұрын
@@A.Martin the US and the rest of NATO already said they won't commit troops to Ukraine
@KaiserMattTygore927
@KaiserMattTygore927 2 жыл бұрын
"NO You're not taking Oklahoma!! that's where the line is drawn!" - Alternate reverse scenario
@siyacer
@siyacer 2 жыл бұрын
About time
@jb-br8bf
@jb-br8bf 2 жыл бұрын
"No one would fight for Kansas." *John Brown loads musket with malicious intent*
@TheXenomorphGuySMSE
@TheXenomorphGuySMSE 2 жыл бұрын
youve been waiting a while to make this video, havent you?
@kam7r882
@kam7r882 2 жыл бұрын
everyone's making fun of the French until they realise it's the sole reason russia can't invade europe at once right now coz they have nukes and the last real standing army in europe
@INCAnitysy
@INCAnitysy 2 жыл бұрын
Never thought I'd see a video with toycat ranting
@ARandomCanadian
@ARandomCanadian 2 жыл бұрын
That’s what I’m saying man why would anyone get involved, everyone seems to think that it’ll start ww3 or whatever, why does everyone think that? I’ll never understand
@cte4dota
@cte4dota 2 жыл бұрын
If Kosovo can why they can't. West made precedent in international law.
@ibx2cat
@ibx2cat 2 жыл бұрын
I mean they clearly can because they did lol
@CoffeeSuccubus
@CoffeeSuccubus 2 жыл бұрын
Russia already invaded on March 15th, 2014. Anyome who argues this or iges me the lie of "The peole of crimea longed to join Russia" excuse, is automatically invalidated.
@silverletter4551
@silverletter4551 2 жыл бұрын
@@marksmith6972 They don't want democratic values but "voted" to be part of the empire? Conquered people don't get a say in being conquered. They just are.
@silverletter4551
@silverletter4551 2 жыл бұрын
@@marksmith6972 the Russians murdered millions of Ukrainian people
@mint8648
@mint8648 2 жыл бұрын
They did and it was based
@DLBBALL
@DLBBALL 2 жыл бұрын
@@marksmith6972 not gonna say if I agree or disagree with you, but bro really had to bring up the fact that the other guy's YT channel has My Little Pony stuff on it
@CoffeeSuccubus
@CoffeeSuccubus 2 жыл бұрын
@@mint8648 That's actually a disgusting comment.
@gakidomo9561
@gakidomo9561 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, do you think that, it's a good time of a year to go back to 'home' country? My birth place is South Korea, I was wondering, has Jeju Island always been part of Joseon Empire? Also, if Korea reunites, will it be called Korean Empire? Or, United Korea? Or perhaps, Nationalist of Gojoseon?
@idknidc2406
@idknidc2406 2 жыл бұрын
Holy fuck, never thought Ibx would do this... I like it.
@aronaax
@aronaax 2 жыл бұрын
a great analogical example to compare this with would be the Munich agreement and the following act of Germany eating off Sudetenland parts of todays Czechia in 1938.
@bokhans
@bokhans 2 жыл бұрын
I noticed that one part of the Russian empire is missing, they actually control the most eastern part of Moldavia also, that part is Russian communist controlled satellite state and call themselves Transnistria. They control their borders have their own postal service and state apparatus. it’s not a big nation but it’s recognised by Russia and on Russias side in any conflict.
@jackyex
@jackyex 2 жыл бұрын
@Toasty Fluff and what would they like Moldova to be called?
@PrstBs1
@PrstBs1 2 жыл бұрын
Transnistrian internationalism is an interesting topic i guess
@dr.c0a585
@dr.c0a585 2 жыл бұрын
@@jackyex Bessarabia probably, but i think they would like to be in Romania, but Romanian is not enough stable for even herself, and probably couldn't handle them as well.
@enthusiastisch1922
@enthusiastisch1922 2 жыл бұрын
Notice how this "Transnistria" is a much nicer place than Moldova itself?
@pocketmarcy6990
@pocketmarcy6990 2 жыл бұрын
@@jackyex …Moldova, they don’t like it being called Moldavia
@chelseacomps829
@chelseacomps829 2 жыл бұрын
14:21, maybe RELATIVELY close, but Canberra to Auckland is the same distance as London to Tirana, Albania. Just to put it into context
@dragonite1718
@dragonite1718 2 жыл бұрын
I'm from România what should I do, leave or stay a little longer and die while trying
@_hisuniquecreation_4274
@_hisuniquecreation_4274 2 жыл бұрын
looking from russia's point of view , they fell threatened/security concerns especially by nato/us bases in neighbouring countries and adding to that majority of people in russia live in areas close to the nato member states esp the capital ....ukraine's point of view is the view of the west as always as we know. Fantastic explanation covering both sides well ibx2cat !
@MrIStillDontCare
@MrIStillDontCare 2 жыл бұрын
I mean we all clearly remember all the states NATO annexed that clearly did not want to join NATO just to avoid being annexed by Rusia so thats 100% a valid point to be sure.
@TheBonecrusherz
@TheBonecrusherz 2 жыл бұрын
Ukraine just wants a real democracy and not getting invaded by Russia every couple hundred years. We never had any ambitions to go into a offensive war against Russia, Putin only uses this as excuse to invade us...
@sinoroman
@sinoroman 2 жыл бұрын
basically, yeah
@tylerhawley4012
@tylerhawley4012 2 жыл бұрын
This sort of act still isn’t justified by feeling threatened. It’s motivated by Putin’s desire to restore the lands he sees as inherently Russian. It wouldn’t be far fetched to see Russia move in on Kazakhstan next, which isn’t related to NATO at all.
@-Faris-
@-Faris- 2 жыл бұрын
No, if that is the case, they can easily set up troops in the baltics, and even Finland should it join. These regions are two steps away from Russia’s main core, including cities like St. Petersburg
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