Russia's response to the Ukrainian invasion is VERY interesting

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[@shokap]

The "Pokrovsk-Kursk Gambit" sounds like a chess opening

[@filipgaecki5480]

We actually have a meme in Poland called "gambit Sandomierski" and it's really funny lol

[@guard6069]

@@shokap petition to rename the King's Indian defense to this 🗣️

[@shadowbear2595]

Nah bro that is a helldivers 2 stratagy

[@shadowbear2595]

putins ideology realy is managed democracy

[@dariogreggio7981]

literally

[@jimmyjams9036]

If Russia has an abundance of anything, it's strategic depth. A tiny amount of land in Kursk is meaningless. Also, the Russian government views the Donbas to be just as Russian as Kursk.

[@comment6864]

Yup, very important point! Pulling forces away from Donbass would cause the people there to feel like they're a less valuable part of Russia than Kursk, second class citizens. So instead of doing that Russia has only doubled down along the whole front line in Donbass and is steadily approaching liberation of all of it. The Kursk thing is just a nick, it doesn't change anything and is a much smaller challenge than the front itself, where they are currently excelling

[@VarDom07]

Germany invaded the USSR in 1941, not 1943.

[@maxthetube8466]

Not sure but I think he just meant when the last German troops were expelled/ pushed out of core Russian territory (Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic so not counting any other republics)

[@p00bix]

@@maxthetube8466 Last German offensive into Russian territory was in late 1944

[@tukezdi]

@@p00bixthat was soviet territory, not russian

[@Sedobreev]

​@@tukezdiSoviet is Russian

[@CYbeRuKRaINiaN]

he probably meant the Battle of Kursk in 1943

[@hman1025]

For everyone curious, this is the Institute for the Study of War (ISW)‘s interactive map which can be found on ArcGIS story maps

[@Asky_]

keep noted that ISW is extremely pro Ukrainian and don't always represent the actual situation on the front

[@nerobernardino88]

@@Asky_ What's your suggestion, then?

[@qwertyutopia4667]

⁠@@nerobernardino88just understand that an area may be pretty much under Russian control, say 95 percent, but the ISW may still say it’s disputed. At the end of the day it’s not a big deal, but understanding the bias is important for precision.

[@Nathan_Yahoo]

@@Asky_ i find that most of their reports are well researched and turn out true

[@dennisyoung7363]

ISW is funded by CIA. Don't take it too seriously.

[@laf1993]

Your commitment to giving us up to date, reliable and unbiased information on these conflicts is extremely commendable. Thank you for your dedication in preserving history!

[@bcvetkov8534]

This video is literally wrong on so many levels. Calling the Kursk offensive anything other than a waste of human life on an industrial level is utter insanity.

[@klowen7778]

​@@bcvetkov8534If you say so, 'Komrade'... :-p

[@swe1733]

@@bcvetkov8534 well they captured 700 km2 of the 30,000 km2 of the entire Kursk region before they were stopped. 2% is huge. Something to brag about to Napoleon and Hitler.

[@bcvetkov8534]

@@swe1733 I'm just going to let that statement speak for itself. Are they going to capture the entire territory like Hitler and Napoleon did? No? Then it was strategically pointless to do this.

[@aumoaum]

You're teaching me more in 12 minutes than 12 hours of sifting through the news does. Thank you!

[@FiveMissiles]

for real!!!

[@DanielKolbin]

What news do you watch?

[@joaomiguelmoreira6363]

It is a tactical victory sure, but in a strategic view it makes little sense. Troops in the east are demoralized, under-equiped and outgunned and manned. Russia keeps making consistent gains near critical sectors like Toretsk and Pokrovsk while grinding local forces with superior aviation and artilery. And for some reason, ukraine threw their few mechanized and movitvated/well trained reserves into this, in the pretext of getting some barganing in "negociations". Russian morale hasnt dropped, the advance came with heavy material cost cuz the spearheads ended up overextending themselves, the situation in the east keeps getting worse, and there is uncertainty with future support. All that combined with the fact that probably the russians wont even show up at any negotiations in this case, given that they got their own territory occupied now. So its a major backfire in the political and military sense.

[@GastropodGaming2006]

it makes Russia pull experienced Men out of that front, and since Ukraine seems to dominate the Mobility field in this war, that innately benefits Ukraine.

[@joaomiguelmoreira6363]

@@GastropodGaming2006 he literally confirmed on the video that both ukrainain and russian sources said that no forces are being pulled from ukraine into Kursk. It will have close to 0 effect on the front in the east Also what makes you say ukraine "dominates" mobility? Its almost as if russian forces didnt drive some 300 km in a straight line from the east to Kiev, not to mention the south in the first months of the war. Anyone can drive a car, actually holding territory is the hard part.

[@ByZHellas]

@@GastropodGaming2006Russia has the manpower and reserves it doesn’t need to pull men from those fronts as Ukraine did when Russia attacked Vovchansk.

[@Nootle-mb2oo]

With the way the war has been going so far, Ukraine can’t be picky about what victories they can get. It’s like Vologda said, they moved into Kursk simply because they could. They had an opportunity to produce casualties and take land / prisoners so they did.

[@bighillraft]

Russia doesn't have superior aviation at all

[@entropybear5847]

How's it a gambit? Russia was winning before Ukraine threw away its reserves and it's still winning after Ukraine wasted its precious few reserves. Nothing has changed except that Ukraine's PR team gets a few videos of a few troops on Russian soil. Back country, sparsely populated, strategically irrelevant borderland.

[@IMNOTAMUSED1]

What is Ukraines next move oh wise master? Will they advance further? Dig in and hold? Full retreat or Partial retreat?

[@tantainguyen4290]

@@IMNOTAMUSED1 they will push hard, there is another coming offensive by Ukraine on Kursk. They will gain as much land as possible then try to hold it asa bargaining chip when the negotiation table comes

[@KettleBell-md8ph]

They are already blowing bridges north of them, i don't think they are pushing much more. Just dig in and try to hold.

[@Mikoyan01]

It IS a gambit. It's just that not every gambit is successful.

[@Vienna3080]

This seems to be a PR campaign with no tangible goals, Russia hasn’t redeployed any frontline troops to Kursk

[@user-rj4gu5oh3k]

Yep lol. They just redeployed the Chechens and some ex Wagner guys. Chechens are known for just being behind the front support troops (Expect battle of Mariupol and Sieverodonetsk) So quite literally this offensive is a suicidal campaign.

[@sababugs1125]

@@user-rj4gu5oh3k you speak as if the Russians are invincible

[@ПудинговыйСуп]

gloves off XDDD

[@rudysmith1552]

@@sababugs1125 you speak of the Ukrainians as if they are viral and capable. They are effectively a mirror of the Russian mentality given western equipment for their independence. Every cultural bias that the Russians have the Ukrainians have. They are a viral nation or one that has been created for military excellence like Prussia. They have clear limitations especially considering the equipment provided to the Ukrainian nation is substandard nearly decommissioned western equipment spanning back to the 1970s in developmental history. The F-16 the M1A1 Abrams And artillery shells that are nearly expired. The burden of excellence is on the Ukrainians. The burden of mediocrity is on the Russians. The Russians need not Have excellence in every single military decision that they make, they need only occupy Ukraine, long enough for the eventual demographic implosion to happen or for the western world Do you have one or two major sponsors shift to the right. The Ukrainians have access to capabilities that have long has had schematics ex filtrated by the Soviet and the Russian Federation, which has dealings with major users of the F-16 platform, such as Egypt or turkey.

[@sababugs1125]

@@rudysmith1552 still , facts on the ground suggest , it's a tough fight for Russia , they're winning by a rounding error in the last 31 days , they've lost 369 vehicles , (in the first 31 days of the counter offensive Ukraine lost 288 vehicles according to lostarmour)

[@Thecopedealer]

One thing is certain. Ukraine doesn’t have the supply, ammo or manpower to stay in Russia. So the sheer fact Russia continues to collapse the Donbas front shows that long term, this gamble does not alter the outcome of anything if not hurt Ukraine more.

[@chrisramos1272]

Thank you cope dealer

[@shannonmikko9865]

@@Thecopedealer collapse the Donbas front? Russia took 8 months to take Bakhmut and still haven’t taken the neighboring town of Chasiv Yar

[@Hypogean7]

@@shannonmikko9865 They are getting there though.

[@_kitaes_]

​@@shannonmikko9865Chasiv Yar is connected to Konstyantinivka which is connected to Pokrovsk so

[@JeZZGro]

​@@chrisramos1272Is that your only one argument? Too many bots...

[@Querulously]

1943 ? 1941 surely unless you mean offensive not invasion

[@maxthetube8466]

Not sure but I think he just meant when the last German troops were expelled/ pushed out of core Russian territory (Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic so not counting any other republics)

[@tsumugikotobuki0131]

@@maxthetube8466 The Germans weren't evicted from Ukraine until 1944, but I'm guessing he meant the last major German offensive was in 1943.

[@maxthetube8466]

@@tsumugikotobuki0131 that’s why I specifically mentioned the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist republic

[@jammin5563]

​@@maxthetube8466 German troops left in 1944

[@Reichsritter]

​that would have been 1944 though, the Wehrmacht still occupied Soviet territory until mid 1944, including rssfr​@@maxthetube8466

[@tonymontana1702]

It doesn't look good for Ukraine. Ukraine's gains in Kursk region mean nothing until they capture Kurchatov nuclear power plant and the city of Kursk, which is unlikely at the moment. Ukraine haven't achieved any major victories for several months, apart from incursion of Kursk. For now, Ukraine is losing and without proper amount of manpower it will keep that way.

[@jorgebarriosmur]

If they have to send in their men between 18-27, they can call it a day and ask for peace. If they loose that generation, they won`t last 20 years, regardless of how the war ends.....perhaps they should begin to conscript women over 30 as drivers, drone operators, and other front services.........

[@nashwise4everGM]

@@jorgebarriosmur They already did for drone and artillery operator.

[@etodillerx2095]

@@jorgebarriosmur they will wait for troops from france and eastern europe. If NATO sends their people to Ukraine, that would not end up well for anyone

[@robertalaverdov8147]

The Chechens launched an invasion into Dagestan (part of Russia) in 1999.

[@markalexander5992]

Chechnya is part of Russia too, so that's not an invasion. If you attack police or military, or civilians, within your own country, it's just terrorism

[@DontWorryBeHappy75]

From Chechnya, probably considered more an internal uprising or rebellion, but yeah I did think about that incident too and wondered if it was overlooked or technically not an invasion

[@robertalaverdov8147]

@@DontWorryBeHappy75 At the time Chechnya was essentially independent though not recognized internationally as such. Semantics aside they managed to take several towns and a few hundred hostages. Took a month and a half to push them back. And that was a force of 1-2k men. I say it counts but I understand where you’re coming from.

[@DontWorryBeHappy75]

@robertalaverdov8147 yeah, I agree it's semantics, and that's less important in that this situation in Kursk is probably very similar and parallels could be drawn between the 2. Not sure what Russia did after that 99 incursion in the sense of did they go after the planners or financiers

[@yankeehunter4726]

This is considered a civil war or internal rebellion

[@J7Handle]

Isn’t this just another version of Krynky? Russia made this exact calculation with Krynky, it was a tiny pocket on the Russian side of the Dnipro, Russia could take it back easily, but they let Ukraine have it for a long time and just shelled it continuously. Here we have Kursk, and it seems to almost be the same strategy from Russian, with maybe some Infantry to slow the Ukrainian advance while artillery and airstrikes soften up the Ukrainian forces.

[@thirion1850]

In the case of Krynky, they had nowhere to fan out towards, creating a cauldron. This isn't the case here, however they just don't have the forces to do much of anything for long. The "raiding/scouting" tactics reflect that.

[@elitalks258]

The difference is that Krynky was behind the Dnieper. Sudzha isn't.

[@sababugs1125]

Russia lost a lot of vehicles near Krynky , in terms of dollar value , it probably lost more

[@ЮлияЛ-щ9ш]

@@sababugs1125 oh no, typical bot comment. Nobody cares for dollar value any longer, the foreign trade shrank and dollar is not popular anymore, and it's even unavailable in the banks, and last, but not least, it's cheap, small daily fluctuations are insignificant. Time to change your narrative.

[@sababugs1125]

@@ЮлияЛ-щ9ш 1. I am talking about military equipment , Dollar is just an unit there 2. 58.65% of the world's reserve currency is USD , 59% of global trade is USD and iirc 70% of the debt is held in USD If you just have 0 idea what you're talking about , don't talk about it

[@riccardogarzelli]

A lizard will loose the tail to save itself. Russia can loose that bit of Kursk and in the big scheme it matters not because that map is misleading: the continuous line should be dashed representing that Ukrainians are not keeping positions, they're just moving around because there is no logistics behind it and they don't have enough to dedicate to that wild goose chase

[@deusexe582]

Ukraine sent 10k+ troups which could be send to Donbas instead,'tis a risky move

[@ByZHellas]

It’s suicide, Ukraines situation is hopeless unless they can get massive amounts of support and fix their manpower shortage.

[@Nootle-mb2oo]

There’s no way they sent 10k+ troops; they wouldn’t be able to hide an offensive of that size as well as they did. They probably sent about half that.

[@jorgebarriosmur]

The thing is, would they make a difference in Donbass, or would they simply serve a target-practice to russian artillery and aviation? I don`t know, but the ukranian commad certainlly thinks they will be more usefull in Kursk (I have my doubts, but we`ll have to see)

[@ByZHellas]

@@Nootle-mb2oo Yeah I heard Russian sources claim 10-12k so they’re probably exaggerating it making it seem like a bigger incursion, Alternatively they may be understating as damage control but who knows, they could be using this as a means to escalate the war and conscript troops or something.

[@ByZHellas]

@@jorgebarriosmur Yeah it seems kind of stupid but then again at the end of the day we are all arm chair generals lol

[@devilbrandon1042]

I love these kinds of videos. I love hearing your voice and hear you talk about these wars and hearing your predictions on them.

[@VologdaMapping]

Nice to hear, I'll keep at it when there is content to talk about

[@friedrichvonhoffmeister3343]

​@@VologdaMapping yeah i liked the ocheretyne one as well. Its really nice to get a different view on the Situation by you.

[@lordfoxquaad1611]

@@friedrichvonhoffmeister3343 A z-view with only the half-truth and never the full truth, hiding the actual reality from the minds like yours

[@donsigalet7620]

Don’t forget now they have left Kiev open by taking the forces from protecting it to do this movie move

[@govols1995]

What a lot of people don't think about is the fact that Ukraine even before the war had the lowest birth rate in Europe. It has understandably cratered even further since. Russia can afford to throw more men into the meat grinder because of it's far larger population. Every young man Ukraine loses to battle, and every young woman who flees West is another nail in its demographic coffin. Honestly even if the war ended today and things were returned to the situation it was antebellum, Ukraine would still be cooked unless it decides to start flooding it's country with the same "diversity and tolerance" immigrants that Western Europe has. Which I would honestly count as losing instead of winning.

[@6000.]

THATS WHAT IM SAYING

[@tokiburoak7457]

Ukrainian men don't even realize that they're fighting for the WEF and the EU to replace them with African, Arab and Indian men. If they want to know what their future has in store for them look no further than Uk, France and Germany. They're literally fighting for their own demise.

[@imbored394]

Ukraine has 0.7 fertility rate which is top 5 lowest in the world

[@alfatejpblind6498]

Failed society, like all the countries after the fall of the USSR...

[@NoName-oz3gj]

Russia's fertility rate is horrible too though

[@badhombre4942]

LMAO. Here's the actual Russian answer. "Why interrupt your enemy when they are making a mistake."

[@TheAnnoyingEditor]

Someone should’ve interrupted Putin from making the mistake of invading Ukraine instead of

[@trollgegael]

Putins 12D chess nice

[@LancesArmorStriking]

​@@trollgegael Not exactly 12D chess, when some people say that others get flustered and angry at the suggestion that Putin could be smart like that. I think it's simpler: he saw how useful the Krynky disaster was, and wants to repeat it here. In this case, it is even easier- let them funnel themselves into a cauldron, with a Russian population that will actively support RUAF military presence. Could not get any easier to thin their numbers.

[@tylerprudhomme]

yes cucktin is such a military genius that he's now being invaded by his former corrupt satellite state that was destined to fall in a matter of days/weeks. uhu, the napoleon of the 21th century for sure

[@TheAnnoyingEditor]

@@LancesArmorStriking Putin is not smart. He literally helps expand NATO. EVERY. TIME. HE. INVADES. A. COUNTRY. If Russia was peaceful NATO would not need to exist as much as it does today

[@Vedioviswritingservice]

He doesn't talk about the losses Ukraine has incurred in their incursion. It is huge. Russia has already gone after their logistics base in Sumy. We will see in a month's time where matters stand.

[@dirgsuite5546]

If Russia takes their Kursk land back before negotiations start, the Kursk inscurtion will be of no value in these negotiations. The worst Russia can do is stop their operations in the East and the South to quickly solve the Kursk crisis. They will take Prokrovsk and Toretsk soon. Behind these two cities, the Ukrainian defense lines are few and far in between and these few Ukrainian defensive lines will fall like dominos. Ukrainians best equipment and reserves are throwed into this inscursion, something Ukraine can really not afford. When Russia did the Kharkiv offense, Ukraine allocated lots of troops to Kharkiv. Russia is not using troops from Donetsk for Kursk incursion: The only right decision!.

[@SithDarthGendo]

You grossly overestimate reputation damage Russia suffered. There's nothing humiliating about not preparing for an obvious irrational suicidal move. 6k or more armed militia with heavy armor crossing the border - no one would be able to stop it with just border guards and without proper preparations . As for propaganda effect. It may have boosted Ukrainian morale, but it didn't damage the resolve of Russians or their support for Putin. Quite the opposite.

[@jakebhenry2228]

Literally, I’m pro-Ukrainian as much as the next guy but the Russian media actually being transparent about this whole invasion and suggesting it’s to their detriment isn’t right, Putin was trying to justify the war with Ukraine with showing them as a aggressive neighbor while also just recently pushing for a “buffer” on Ukrainian soil to protect Russians-the Ukrainians have literally given him perfect justification.

[@guard6069]

Russia will just expand the frontline and Ukraine will not be able to fill the gaps for long. Major strategic blunder in Kursk.

[@kitkatcat1921]

And where are they getting the troops for this? It’s been several days and Ukraine is still advancing

[@guard6069]

​@@kitkatcat1921Unlike Ukraine, Russia has a large manpower pool they can pull out of the rest of the country. Logistics however... Will be hell for both sides...

[@dragonfish5729]

Yet it doesn't seem like they are stopping the offensive in the nearest future🤭

[@guard6069]

​@@dragonfish5729nor it seems that Ukraine will be able to stop Russia's momentum in their own territory. Both sides are getting beating in different ways.

[@shannonmikko9865]

@@guard6069Russia taking a town every 8 months is an interesting definition of “momentum”

[@theeternalsuperstar3773]

My guess is that the Ukranian offensive is like a spear without a handle. It has major offensive power. but almost no defensive power and most likely already severely strained logistics. Once the Russian actually get a proper response force, we may see the first large encirclement since 2022.

[@JeffGordon-ph4vz]

The did get double the territory the Russian Kharkiv offensive made in half the time but they also attacked with double the troops. Only 6-8k Russian troops crossed the border in Kharkiv while Russians originally said 1-2000 penetrated the border since then a further 10-15k have moved in.

[@TaRatTinCan]

There are couple of point that may add to the Russia reasonings: 1) As of 2024 according to Russian laws Donetsk and Lugansk oblast are part of Russia. From technical legal view (and Putin regime is extremely attentive to this) there should not be a difference between occupied territory in Kursk and remaining Donbass cities under Ukraine control. Making public distinction about those territories would contradict that view 2) While it is good propaganda for Ukraine, it might serve Russia as well. Having Nato equipped Nazi-cosplaying foreign troops in Kursk of all places is a somber evocative image that can stir some Russians “on the fence” of this conflict

[@jakebhenry2228]

Agreed, it also actually makes Putin more popular because he was pushing this need for a buffer zone and here the Ukrainians are proving his point, all he needs to do is shift the blame to someone else and he gets the credit for wanting to, in the future, expand the war to other parts of Ukraine.

[@junglebogged]

I have a few questions, if you are willing to answer them here: 1. Why did you scrap the Second Cold War series and why do you prefer a Sudan series over it? Will you continue it after the end of the Israel-Hamas War? 2. Is there a special reason why you are so sure WW3 and Wars in Europe will happen? 3. What is your opinion on Neomapping (the Mappers making non-moving maps on YT shorts if you get what I mean, e.g. EnfeMapping, ZyryanMapper or Kosovanmapper)

[@darelcream]

What website/application do you use for this map of updated borders?

[@ArgLarper]

I think is “Interact Map: Russia’s Invasion of Ukraine” I don’t think I can send you the url

[@AdvancedGamer-]

@@ArgLarperok

[@robertgriffiths5449]

its an interactive map on the Institute for the study of war, aka ISW

[@kirahen0437]

Ukraine literally pulled an UNO reverse card

[@ΧρήστοςΚατραντζής]

yes but for how long?

[@artos9406]

​@@ΧρήστοςΚατραντζήςfor long this time, they've captured actual territories and started entrenching

[@ohgeazy]

they didn’t do anything ,

[@kirahen0437]

@@ΧρήστοςΚατραντζής lol idk if it was a dream or just another video but I remember seeing a mapping video where Russia takes back all the stolen territory in like 2 days lol

[@Christianityunmasked]

Its questionable how far this Ukraine offensive could realistically go right now the front line has not even solidified and Ukrainian is taking significant attritional losses. Also id pokrovsk and the Russians keep advancing in dombass then how long until the Ukrainian government decided to move troops from kursk to be of use on other fronts. Its also presumptive to believe the negotiations are around the corner this could easily be a 10 year war

[@wogelson]

Stretching the front line longer when being in a manpower and equipment disadvantage is suicidal. Especially if it doesn't achieve anything except a land grab without any significant infrastructure, encirclement of troop concentration, strategic panic or revolt of the population.

[@LeadLeftLeon]

Recently Ukraine could not even fortify its own lines. They won’t fortify anything under drones and artillery

[@sababugs1125]

citation needed

[@Hmssussex]

They seem to fortify their lines pretty well considering Russia can’t break them

[@ReikerForge]

@@sababugs1125 Google live ukraine war map. Watch Ukraines lines move daily in the direction of Kiev over the course of a week. Not by much for sure, but constantly, every day losing more and more.

[@sababugs1125]

@@ReikerForge and ? Russia pushing due to sheer mass ,not really a lack of Ukrainian fortifications Also they're really only pushing towards toretsk and Pokrovsk right now

[@DeusExDraconian]

Pokrovsk, as I have heard it, is the last tenable defensive line that Ukraine can hold for all it's territory east of the Dnieper river. Beyond that all the land is flat. Ukraine would have to spill every drop of blood it has in order to prevent that from happening and that includes trying to open as many new fronts as possible.

[@bokunogentoo4420]

1:18 Ukraine always had it in them to launch an offensive into Russia, it's just that the western countries arming them kept forbidding them from doing so for the past two years. There have already been a few excursions into Belgorod oblast that always had to fall back because Ukraine was only allowed to fight defensively

[@ReikerForge]

Western countries didn't suddenly give Ukraine the green light to invade Russia either, they just chose to do that behind everyone's back. To be fair, if they hadn't the media would have blabbed about every single detail of the offensive, but they left them in the dark regardless.

[@tibersulla2305]

If by "had it in them to launch an offensive into Russia" you mean lunging themselves to make a few selfies then run away to hide in the woods, or just die when they really need these reserves elsewhere, yeah, they totally "had it" in them. This is a desperate PR raid, holds no strategic prospects, it's unsustainable and they ain't staying for long.

[@Mandobird1]

"Strengthened Ukraine's position for negotiations." The next conditions will be seriously worse for Ukraine.

[@comment6864]

Don't forget that legally, and morally, these new territories are no less part of Russia than Kursk is. And in fact this gives the people of Donbass a special vote of confidence that they are not just second-rate citizens of Russia. Imagine how it would look to them if Russia rushed forces away from them and towards Kursk as if the people there are more valuable than those in the new territories. So you have to relinquish this skewed view of Kursk as special land, and then things go back into perspective, because you can see it is a tiny piece of land compared to what Russia is holding in the new territories, which have not yet been fully liberated. So there are many more layers to this than 'oh ukraine has invaded' Ukraine did no less worse things when they were shelling Donetsk all this time. Because Donetsk is just as much a part of Russia as Kursk is.

[@johnwebster5005]

Good point - the problem that Ukraine has is Zelensky - he thinks that as long as 'the west' celebrates him Ukraine is winning. At this stage of the war propaganda is less important than it was - and Russia is being open about things because it wants Russians to be really, really angry - which they are.

[@panzerkiller13]

And St Petersburg is part of Ukraine just as much as Kharkiv is, and Konigsburg is part of Germany just as much as Munich is. There is NO legal truth to that, or the international community would back it.

[@violenceisfun]

​@@panzerkiller13how many Petersburgians speak Ukrainian?

[@comment6864]

@@panzerkiller13 St. Petersburg part of Ukraine? What are you smoking???😂 ..Oh and don't forget Alaska part of Russia, if that's where you're going 😁

[@abdusalamolamide]

A well informed comment.

[@alaingautier6865]

Please chose another word as « liberated » … grabbing land is a crime, population suffer from war, it’s nothing like a liberation which implies a choice and an improvement

[@Not_Telling80]

two things stand out to me with this situation. 1. Russia seems to be luring the nato countries into thinking they are weak, and a lot of them have been acting more agressive. 2. This gives putin the perfect reason to do another mobilization, a much larger one to cover the nato threat as well.

[@johnwebster5005]

Excellent point.

[@Kansika]

Russia also has a casus belli now should they need one and the AFU lost men and equipment faster in the incursion than they would've in the slow defensive grind. Which one gained more from it? People can talk all they want about Putin and his hurt feelings. I don't he think he gives a rat's ass about "humiliation" in the western press. They've been slow and methodical while reorganizing their econmy. The longer this goes on the more experienced and battle hardned troops and officers they'll. I don't think we've seen all thatt they have to give, either.

[@xbotbananaboi7064]

agreed, what channels do you watch on yt that make you feel like that though?

[@TugaThings]

Which NATO countries are acting more aggressive???

[@Kansika]

@@joelee3716 Good to know, thanks. Your skills must be on another level. It must be great to feel smart and being right while having nothing to say. I can't do that.

[@volkardlokisson6292]

What no one seems to be talking about is who Russia sent to deal with the Kursk Incursion: Apti Alaudinov. Apti is the leader of the Russian Akhmat Special Forces and holder of the Hero of Russia medal (the equivalent to the Medal of Honor). This dude is about as scary as they come. During the Chechen War, Apti took a handful of SF men and hunted down the man that had slaughtered his family, cutting a butcher's path through hundreds of his enemy's best men to get to him. After being sent to the Kursk Incursion, Apti slaughtered thousands of the best soldiers Ukraine has to offer, destroyed or captured the bulk of the front line armoured vehicles, and guided in an airstrike on the primary fuel depot supplying the Kursk Incursion forces leaving the remaining armour without fuel. The Kursk Incursion is all but over at this point. Many analysts, myself included, are equating this SF victory over Ukraine's best units, to Napoleon's failed invasion of the same region in which much of his cavalry were wiped out (armoured forces being the modern day equivalent). A stunning and resounding defeat in detail of the Ukrainian forces that has wiped out their strategic reserves, deleting what little bargaining power Ukraine had left when either side sues for peace.

[@urrywest]

The Russians sent the Chechins as well as their reservists.... Ukraine lead with tanks and artillary with their well trained troops that were heavily agmented with mercinaries... It is a compleatle loss for Ukraine.

[@RicCross]

Wonder how well this analysis will age with time…

[@charlesiragui2473]

Taking Pokrovsk is not simply a trophy. This town, unlike the Kursk region, is highly strategic. Some analysts believe this town is the key to the whole line of contact. Additionally, there seem to be few defensive lines behind Pokrovsk, so taking the city might be breaking though the entire Ukrainian line.

[@constantinuslefug2874]

Finally, objective analysis. Thankyou.

[@Jimmeh946]

I see a lot of comments taking this from the Russian point of view, but nobody is really talking about the Kursk offensive from the Ukrainian POV. Ukraine knows their frontlines are collapsing and their manpower is almost gone. The Kursk invasion is not a simple PR move, it's goal is more than to just motivate the Ukrainian troops and citizens and hopefully get some more weapons from the west. I personally believe Ukraine is trying to completely reshape the war. Desperate times call for desperate measures, and very desperate times call for very desperate measures. We don't really know how many soldiers are in the Kursk invasion, and there were no reports of a buildup of soldiers there. For all we know this could just be the first part of the operation. I don't want to sound insane, but we don't know anything about this incursion. Maybe Ukraine's target is the major city of Kursk itself, which sounds completely stupid and incredibly risky, but Ukraine literally has nothing to lose. If they fail, they lose war. If they didn't do this at all, they lose the war. If they win, they might get a better peace deal. If Ukraine is on the verge of total collapse and Russia is on the verge of a breakthrough, do you really think any sane person would sit back and just let it happen, or would you gather all your good soldiers, keep all your conscripts in the south to give you enough time to stage a final offensive before the Russian breakthrough, and just go all in on a majorly strategic area with very high significance. I personally think Russia not taking troops to stop the Kursk invasion is a bad idea. Russia will win the war really no matter what at this point, the problem is Ukraine knows this, and the invasion of Kursk isn't a simple counteroffensive, it's an extremely desperate attempt at... something. The more Russia "ignores" (sending your worst conscripts to fight the best Ukrainian soldiers and not your best Russian soldiers is basically ignoring it), the better Ukraine has at achieving whatever it's goal is. I did some math; it's likely Russia will take porovsk in 3-5 months base on the current pace of the offensive, and after that it's easy Russian victories. That means that Ukraine has 3-5 months to go all in on Kursk. It seems impossible, but if Russia withholds its troops for 3-5 months and let Ukraine make some major gains in Kursk, maybe some fortunes may turn. Especially if, after 5 months, Russia pulls out its best fighters and sends them to Kursk, for Ukraine to suddenly be out of Kursk and beating down on porovsk, but that's highly unlikely. Only time will tell before answers are revealed.

[@MINDPLUNK]

I think it's simpler than that. Ukraine has an energy shortage and they failed to recapture the Zaporizhiya nuclear power plant, the largest power station in Europe. If Ukraine captures the Kursk nuclear power plant (much easier than capturing Kursk city), they could trade it for ZNPP during negotiations. This could help partially alleviate the power shortage.

[@НикомунеСкажу-э9и]

Со стороны России это айкидо. Со стороны Украины это шанс привлечь к себе внимание

[@ТанмайПанде]

So basically a desperate offensive?

[@ТанмайПанде]

Also, using math in wars are inaccurate. Pace of invasion can change, for the better or the worse.

[@ReikerForge]

The thing is, putin might have settled for novorussia and let Ukraine keep whatever is east of the Dnipro. Now that Russia is being invaded however, even russian gov is demanding Putin not stop until the full surrender of Ukraine. This means he has access to the non volunteer conscripts he couldn't use before, as sending drafted soldiers to fight an offensive war is bad for PR; On the other hand, protecting your country from invaders is a fully practical reason to send them. From what I can tell they also did this without notifying the people bankrolling the war, so if this ends in a major defeat, it could permanently see the end to funding on Ukraines side. It was all fine and dandy when it was muh democracy protecting its borders, but nobody (Outside US warhawks with investments in the MIC) wants to send hundreds of billions to help Ukraine invade another country.

[@rizkyzulkarnain7725]

They (Ukrainians) continued to move forward spreading without objection and without any defense foundations made, and finally ended up being ambushed by Russian troops

[@Ne_Ne_Vova_UA]

9:40 probably one of the reasons is capturing Kursk Nuclear Power Plant

[@yankeehunter4726]

They are not only sending conscripts to the Kursk front, there are actual Wagner veterans returning from Belarus and elite Chechen forces there as well. Handing this only to the conscripts could be a disaster. They could capture a nuclear power plant, to significant damage to populated villages and a lot more damage.

[@walterjohnson6357]

The sad truth is that both sides are so wounded that this is all they can do. There will be no winner. The deciding factor will be the worldwide economic crash that has been building for some time now.

[@thomasjones3206]

I can see Ukraine entering Russian land as a big deal but it can just be hand waved away

[@Apsolution1]

This is only channel where its actually talked about the war without propaganda from either side

[@danubs8385]

A very smart analysis! I hadn't thought about it like that

[@elitalks258]

It should be noted that Ukraine is still in there after a full ass week. You'd think Russia would be able to push them out by now, but they haven't.

[@bighillraft]

The point of the video is that Russia is trying an offensive somewhere else instead

[@Russian_Bot_Orc]

Ukraine sent 10k soldiers there, its not like it was in belgorod with 200

[@oatdilemma6395]

No no no you don't get it, this is part of Russia's master plan! Trust me please!

[@dwarow2508]

They did not really try either. They are just lighting up any vehicle the AFU puts in the salient

[@VodkaPandas]

Russia see it as another meat grinder for ukrainian, since Ukraine going all in there, sending thousands of soldiers, no point on pushing it fast anymore, just like the territory Ukraine gained during summer counter offensive, Russia has not fully recapture that one, but had been capturing more territory than Ukraine summer counter offensive from different part of the front.

[@bhangrafan4480]

I think the Russians are aiming to capture all of Donetsk and Luhansk so that they can start disengaging from Ukraine and moving towards a ceasefire. It would provide a suitable juncture. I guess they calculate they can turn their attentions to clearing their own territory later. Anyway, they are determined not to let events in Kursk distract them from the Donetsk operations.

[@orange4191]

1943? I’m sorry but operation Barbarossa is basic history which took place in 1941

[@mhhmsmfshsmhfh]

He meant the battle of kursk (1943) but described it a bit wrong

[@VologdaMapping]

Nah I meant Barbarossa but got the year wrong

[@orange4191]

@@VologdaMapping all good bro

[@AKAKiddo]

It's not necessarily a propaganda loss for foreign troops to be in Russia. I would imagine that German tanks on Russian soil has caused a huge upswing in the number of Russian volunteers. From the Russian perspective the Ukraine war has always been about Russian security. The Ukrainian invasion towards Kursk now provides a physical example of that.

[@sickre]

No More Brothers Wars

[@AddieHilton]

Russia tried but the banderites insisted.

[@straytonox1492]

European guy, -600 000 before Christ Europe IS brothers wars, but that is its power

[@andrewkizito7916]

Thx for the presentation man!!

[@comment6864]

No, the Kursk incursion is very different than Volchansk, which is a much bigger city, and you also have to consider what huge losses Ukraine is taking in Kursk, it's astounding, they just chaotically threw in brigades without a means to truly support them. That is NOT how Russia has been proceeding in Volchansk and around Harkov. They are very methodical and avoid biting off more that they can chew, whereas that is exactly what Ukraine is not avoiding in Kursk.

[@rizkyzulkarnain7725]

They (Ukrainians) continued to move forward spreading without objection and without any defense foundations made, and finally ended up being ambushed by Russian troops

[@comment6864]

@@rizkyzulkarnain7725 Honestly i can see the hand of the west in their 'strategizing'.. if i were to describe in a word it would be: CRUDE. Superficial, CRUDELY (or primitively) crafted thinking is exactly par for the course in western activity of any kind lately, it's especially the american way. But the HUBRIS..! Oh, plenty of that!! That's one thing their thinking does not lack - arrogance, hubris, confidence in their exceptionalism and dominance. It permeates american corporate culture, business relations, etc. etc. Superficiality has truly taken the reigns of everything and it's all due to enormous hubris. On the surface they are brainwashed to think they are on a righteous cause with this ukraine thing, but really deep down even subconsciously there is no foundation for this confidence and that goes not without a mark on their results. There will always be a difference between superficial 'gung-ho' and a true, deep down, quiet conviction. And it will always leave a big mark on the results that matter. That is the main ingredient that will make Russia's victory, with God's help of course.

[@AbraxasEchazarretaEstrella]

You are making history with these videos, please keep doing them.

[@GastropodGaming2006]

Biggest advantage is the fact Russia has to move Men to defend its borders, and Russia's kinda slow at moving troops compared to Ukraine, possibly allowing Ukraine to out maneuver the Russians

[@computer1-hc1qn]

The video states that the Russians are not moving units to Kursk oblast, and why they are not doing so.

[@ByZHellas]

Russia isn’t deploying frontline forces, mainly if not entirely reserves.

[@user-rj4gu5oh3k]

@@ByZHellasYep so far only Chechens and ex Wagner guys have been deployed

[@GastropodGaming2006]

@@computer1-hc1qn They quite literally are though. The video states otherwise, but it's simply untrue.

[@sirex9244]

​@@GastropodGaming2006they sent small groups. Not entire brigades. Thats the point

[@Arnisho]

Good video and analysis but you forgot to mention the strategic importance of Pokrovsk being a major logistics hub And the loss of that will have impacts on transporting military equipment to other key strongholds like Chasiv yar etc.

[@jakebhenry2228]

That isn’t really the case unless they are redeploying from the Southern front to there and in which case they would likely notice before it was launched.

[@grenigen]

volga mapping you forgot about chechen forces invading russia this is not the first time since ww2

[@andresmartinezramos7513]

He is probably counting Chechnya as part of Russia

[@jamesoldson6668]

You should make more of these types of videos, very insightful.

[@OICru]

Wasn’t the last invasion of Russia in 1999, when chechen forces invaded Dagestan?

[@anthonyterranova4475]

yes

[@Reallyidktbh]

But they're separatist

[@AddieHilton]

No, 2008 when Georgia invaded South Ossetia.

[@anthonyterranova4475]

@@AddieHilton south ossetia is a breakaway state not offically apart of or annexed by russia

[@AddieHilton]

@@anthonyterranova4475 True, and yet 90% are Russian citizens who vote in Russian elections. De-facto they are a part of the Russian Federation and I suspect once the conflict in Ukraine is over Russia will formally recognize them as such.

[@Axolotls_out]

Haha, från namnet på kanalen antog jag att du var nån östeuropé men sen hör man dialekten och tänker "vänta lite här!?" Bra video!

[@flameguy3416]

Lololol

[@stanradziwon4359]

Someone has a poor knowledge about WWII telling that Germans attacked Russia in 1943!

[@psier11]

likely speaking of 43 Kursk offensive, useless even if, promptly launched in may, it had succeeded. Its failure deprived even more of mobile reserves germany army, with decisive results.

[@superdrive986]

he's talking about the last time the germans were on core russian territory, i.e when they were expunged from the russian soviet federative socialist republic.

[@issintf925]

This isnt the first time ukraine has gone into russia during this war. It seems less like a major gambit and more like a prod at the areas that russia has left less defended

[@scvboy1]

While embarrassing, doesn’t this only make Ukraine’s overall situation worse? Like if Russian can mobilize like 30,000 conscripts by sheer volume alone (not even mentioning the aviation advantage) they can stop the offensive. And now since you’re in Russia you need to deal with even more troops that otherwise would’ve been inactive and all while taking losses

[@Jimmeh946]

Ukraine has nothing to lose. Extremely desperate times call for extremely desperate measures. I believe Ukraine is going all in to try and disrupt Russia as much as possible. So far russia hasn't kicked them out, and Ukraine is still going at a rapid pace. Does it really matter if this operation is gonna be a failure when Ukraine will lose the war anyway? It's like a gambler throwing his entire life savings on green in roulette, but if he doesn't gamble it all on green than his money will magically burn away anyway. He's unlikely to keep the money, highly unlikely, if he gamble it all on green, but if he doesn't than he WILL lose all the money. That's the difference.

[@kipschwanenberg4934]

Pearl Harbor caught us with our pants down but the next day started a massive enlistment drive. I can only guess this Ukraine incursion will boost Russian enlistments.

[@antoniomoyal]

Very insightful, thank you!

[@filipgaecki5480]

Let me start out by saying I am around 90% pro Ukrainian. BUT I am always trying to look at things objectively and here is what I think: The gamble Russia is taking here? I would say is the correct one. However it also one that will be looked at differently depending on it's outcome. If it pays off it will be praised as a rare sign of miitary genius on Russia's part. If it fails it will be a big sign of incompetence. And we see this in wars all the time: During war when you are a military leader you work with information that is available to you. What we see nowdays as signs of incompetence were a lot of times actually RIGHT decisions when we take into account the fog of war. The best example I can give is the battle of Midway. It was a HUMILIATING loss for the Japaneese. But the Japaneese Admirals made all the right calls during the battle itself. How is that possible? The fog of war. With the information they had they made the best possible choices. But we have something they didn't. Benefit of hindsight. Thus we call their actions incompetent.

[@ЮлияЛ-щ9ш]

@@filipgaecki5480 how can you be pro Ukrainian and support this termination of the country going on? The country shrank by 50% already, men are being kidnapped on daily bases, and people like you are cheering then up, while the wisest decision for them was to negotiate in the beginng.

[@peterchindove7146]

Hitler was also high.

[@RaymondLartey-o3c]

Ukraine is on it's last legs, when a lion is dying, it struggles and becomes dangerous and then the final hours come.

[@moviemaestro800]

Russia took 8 months to capture just one village...

[@hothdog]

@@moviemaestro800 they actually capture A LOT more tan just a village

[@sababugs1125]

@@hothdog in the past year Russia captured like 700 sq km , 2 sq km a day This is claimed to have captured 1000+ sq km as far as disasters go it's not fast

[@wilhelmburgdorf9309]

@@moviemaestro800you misunderstand how this war works, it’s not about claiming land, it’s about inflicting massive losses on the enemy

[@moviemaestro800]

@@wilhelmburgdorf9309 And it sure takes a lot more Ukrainian losses than in most wars to make any significant progress.

[@giogio51592]

some things in the video are inaccurate - for example, a couple of elite spetsnaz units were redislocated to the kursk bulge, not conscripts, that's the only reason ukraine was stopped, however, some conscripts who were part of the border guards were killed/captured kursk was chosen not because "why not?" but because the real goal is circling around the troops in belgorod oblast, pushing into kharkov. the border of belgorod oblast is way more fortified, than the border of kursk oblast, so the plan is to bypass these fortifications.

[@paulinalevina9690]

Schlieffen plan, Schlieffen plan Messy warfronts? Yeah!

[@anguscovoflyer95]

1941 is when the Germans invaded the USSR not 1943

[@trollgegael]

And they got driven out in 1944 not 1943

[@play_boy7543]

Pokrovsk-Kursk Gambit sounds like a game the russians are good at

[@giuseppecappelluti3626]

If Russia takes Pokrovsk or Toretsk while Ukraine holds on Kursk, the initial Russian humiliation will become Zelensky’s ridiculous blunder. If Russia takes Pokrovsk and Toretsk while Ukraine holds on Kursk, Zelensky is over. And if Russia takes Pokrovsk and retakes Kursk, it won.

[@b3ygghsas]

What a dumb reasoning

[@giuseppecappelluti3626]

@@b3ygghsas well, your comment about Hamas is emblematic of what you are.

[@b3ygghsas]

@@giuseppecappelluti3626 What?

[@andresmartinezramos7513]

And if it doesn't?

[@giuseppecappelluti3626]

@@andresmartinezramos7513 Russia doesn’t conquer anything, Ukraine keeps a foothold in Kursk - Ukrainian victory Russia doesn’t conquer anything, Ukraine loses Kursk - Ukraine somehow loses, major embarrassment for their government (“why didn’t we send our men in Donbass or Zaporizhia?) but still high moral

[@cacwgm]

The "Pokrovsk-Kursk Gambit" is far more plausible than most of the theories floating around to explain Russia's inadequate response to the invasion of Kursk, because they: 1) Always believe they can outlast the enemy 2) Don't attach much value to lives 3) Believe that Ukraine will eventually have to abandon Kursk to reinfoce the Donbass 4) See an opportunity to bring Ukraine back to the attritional warfare they believe favours them 5) Don't feel political pressure However, this only works while Ukraine's nerve holds, and their supplies are inadequate. Meanwhile, Ukraine has the opportunity to interdict Russian forces and supplies on the move, in volume.

[@shernandez1029]

So judging by the fact they took both defensive lines, and the Russian response is very slow uhhh… Second Battle of Kursk soon?

[@atanasvasilev3228]

Russia is actually cool with the ukrainians being handled in mostly open terrain. Ukraine failed their main objective - to advance fast and capture big settlements. Kursk is 3-4 times less populated than Donbass, meaning there are 3-4 times less cities, meaning 3-4 times less army concentration locations. The Ukrainian gamble has failed. They might dig in to keep the propaganda slaps going, but at very high cost. They are in artillery pocket within the enemy territory. Way more hostile position than usual for them. Ukraine decided to act like that because they know, they cant face the enemy forces head on, so they tried to bypass them, how ever they were slowed enough and lost momentum in this scarcely populated area.

[@sababugs1125]

"Artillery pocket" it's 1000+ sq km

[@atanasvasilev3228]

@@sababugs1125 Thats 20 by 50km. An artillery pocket. 180 degrees opportunities to get hit while you are defended by whatever it is in those particularly small wooden villages.

[@sababugs1125]

@@atanasvasilev3228 20 by 50 km is a lot of space , assuming 10k figure for the number of men involved in the operation , that's 10 men per square km a lot of space

[@topweddingsa4059]

Great analys

[@SnOwL5]

I don't understand how anyone can be pro-russian in the context of this war

[@vinojsagar5007]

yes they can be if you are not western or from white majority countries

[@akula444]

Russia is just 'protecting its interests' and 'the best form of defence is offence'. Straight out of the western colonial playbook

[@lordfoxquaad1611]

Don't fall for bots, they're not the actual opinion but a simple noise. Real people won't ever support the kremlin's barbarism

[@mwittmann68]

I'm a white Westerner and I've been pro-Russia since day 1. This war is 100% artificial and was theorized decades ago by American geopoliticians. Their is clearly a will to weaken Russia with a proxy war. Euro Maidan itself was fund by American agencies.

[@jakebhenry2228]

@@akula444Not really, western offense=new markets, not national ideas of grandeur or whatever Putin’s aim is.

[@os6747]

Very well said. Amazing reporting

[@shanerooney7288]

1,000 sq.km in 1 week. At this rate, Ukraine will have all of Russia in 329 years 🫡

[@mckenziegoodridge3469]

More than Russia has taken for the entire year, pathetic the Copium you bots spam.😂

[@Manticorus_YT]

@@mckenziegoodridge3469You clearly haven’t seen the Russian advancements in Pokrovsk and New-York direction

[@shanerooney7288]

@@mckenziegoodridge3469 It is also more than Ukraine made during the year before. 😉

[@paulinalevina9690]

@@Manticorus_YT Well🤓 acshually🤓 it´s🤓 called🤓 Niu-Jork🤓

[@Ne_Ne_Vova_UA]

5:11 and it's good, before on some Ukrainian operation everybody knew about them like a week before and this one holds completely on surprise

[@derpyyyyyyyyyyyt]

where is this map from?

[@hman1025]

ISW interactive map

[@user-rj4gu5oh3k]

@@hman1025Yeah and this map is pretty bullshit lmfao. Lets be honest what is with the Ukrainian “partisans” This is like painting the whole of Ukraine slightly red because some guys burnt Ukrainian draft cars.

[@aniksamiurrahman6365]

This isn't the first invasion of Russia since WW2. Ukriane attacked and held Belgorod twice before. Ukraine has bombed Russia with drones many time before.

[@Manticorus_YT]

This guy thinks the Great Patriotic War started at 1943 and not 1941. He’s obviously not from Vologda. Everyone in Russia knows the history.

[@vpolerosaaaa]

war started in 1941, but germans still occupied russian territory in 1943.

[@DoveringFifths]

If it's chess ... Kursk is a rook (I'm being liberal), Pokrovsk is a queen.

[@scialacqua9765]

Ukraine Offensive sounds like "Ardenne 1944" to me

[@TheAnnoyingEditor]

Big problem with your logic. In the Ardenne offensive of 1944 by Nazi Germany, they actually got bogged down fairly quickly since they faced professional troops. This is more like Ukraine walking into Kursk, they already broke through the two Russian defensive lines at the border. Russia can’t really push them back or defend Kursk at the moment

[@JesterEric]

The Ardennes offensive had a clear if unrealistic goal. Reach Antwerp and cut off the British/Canadian Army forcing a repeat of Dunkirk. There is no objective worth anything in rural Russia. Point one of Zelensky peace plan is nuclear safety. So an attack on the Kursk NPP is completely hypocritical

[@jaypolas4136]

​@@TheAnnoyingEditor .. They can. Did you miss what the point of the video is?

[@TheAnnoyingEditor]

@@jaypolas4136 Please tell me why Ukraine continues to make advances despite somehow Russia halting them ?

[@SpencerLemay]

@@TheAnnoyingEditor How far can the Ukrainians even advance if the Russians barely bother to stop them?

[@LtColwtf]

The Ukrainian incursion into Kursk Oblast looks like nothing serious to me. The Russians are not stupid. Moral victories are not a substitute for tangible victories on the battlefield.

[@nickgoodman250]

No, not 1943 but 1941 !

[@johnwilliamsscuba6487]

Did you say successful?It is far from successful at anything other than grabbing headlines and a morale boost.This battle is nowhere near over.Once it's over we can decide if it was successful or not

[@Minitruee]

Wait, the Russo-Ukraine war was Russia and Ukraine playing chess all along?

[@andrice42]

So basically this is live training for Russian conscripts and special forces. The fact that Russia didn't think to heavily protect a gas producer makes me wonder if they really are competent though. I know Ukraine threw a lot at it, but if they have a supply lines to it then they have the energy to maintain a presence in the area for a long time and they'll just dig in deeper as time goes on. This will be a win for Ukraine if they expect the rest of NATO to join the fight. Everything seems to purposefully escalate war with Russia. I don't know why Russia doesn't do full conscription at this point. It's obvious the west wants to completely take over Russia. If they show you who they are, believe them.

[@Asky_]

Tactical nukes

[@tylerprudhomme]

regime stability. a full mobilisation would be hugely unpopular

[@Luiz-w5s]

The pipes go into Ukraine. If they wanted to cut it, they would qt any time without the need to enter Kursk.. But they would destroy Europe's economy in the process, hasting their fall.

[@axdde6428]

Russia had national guard akhmat there but they ran Chechen akhmat not wagner

[@JS-jh4cy]

Where is the old map of Ukraine so we can see which parts Russia is sitting on or just past the old borders

[@itzastralz1030]

If the Ukrainians see major success in Kursk I don't think their momentum will only limited to Russia. It could extend to Donbass (or more likely) Zaporizhia

[@aotmoments7410]

Ukraine is struggling to hold onto the land it has gained in Kursk and is losing significant territory every day in the Donbass. The Donbass will likely never be Ukrainian land again; that's just a reality to accept. This area is probably one of the most fortified regions in the world, and with limited aid and no NATO intervention, Ukraine isn’t going to break through those defences. Ever.. im not even pro Russian or Ukrainian....

[@moviemaestro800]

​@@aotmoments7410 It's been Ukrainian controlled territory before, and therefore it will be again.

[@itzastralz1030]

@@aotmoments7410 Donbass absolutely can be retaken if Ukraine plays their cards right.

[@rudysmith1552]

@@itzastralz1030 no it can’t their best planes are 50 years old American technology that the Soviet had schematic data for towards the end of the Cold War. Their best tanks are revision Abrams tanks that had to be pulled from the front to be retrofitted and still under perform expectations. Most intelligent people are westerners now. The Republicans are guaranteed to take one chamber of Congress if not the presidency. As far as European support the right has been gaining in every single election that they are in in a western European country with high immigration. In Britain, there is sectarian violence, the British population over immigration. It is almost guaranteed over the course of the war that at least one major sponsor will have a right wing party takeover, adhear to neutrality. Unless the last decides to give Ukraine high-level high-tech equipment like F35s F22s and m1e3 they will be incapable of maintaining the status quote enough to create any meaningful fractures in Russian society it took 20 years for America to exit Vietnam with a population that was being directly conscripted to war.

[@attilamarics3374]

@@itzastralz1030 How? Thats a nonsense take.

[@R290s_biggest_fan]

TBH i thought Ukraine could not mount an operational offensive after the counteroffinsive failure last year.

[@trollgegael]

So many Moscovite shills in these comments like always

[@blackchrysler]

Many replies are just being realistic not even shilling

[@TheAnnoyingEditor]

@@blackchrysler No. he is right, they are shilling. Russian fanboys are perplexed by the idea that their shitty army can’t handle a Ukrainian invasion into Kursk

[@flameguy3416]

Seeing the war for what it is is not shilling for Moscow. Ukraine is only still a country due to hundreds of billions of dollars worth of munitions and arms given to them by Europe and USA, and Russia has atleast 5 times the manpower Ukraine has. Both sides lost hundreds of thousands of humans and both will be utterly exhausted by the end of it. It will be a Pyrrhic victory for Russia. But we'll have to see what happens if Trump gets elected, as he is promising to stop this, like he prevented many wars from occurring during his previous tenure as president.

[@hungaryhusar6567]

Cope more nafo bot

[@lordfoxquaad1611]

@@hungaryhusar6567 Man I like how all the Lakhta bot farm can do after being exposed is projecting and create the mythical "nafo bots" that they call every human being with a working mind and common sense

[@andreartigas8308]

Wagner is in Kurks, Forgot that "small" detail.