Russian draft exiles live in fear of discovery abroad | Focus on Europe

Estimates say thousands of Russians are hiding abroad from Putin's war in Ukraine. Many live in constant fear of being discovered by Russian intelligence.
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[@markmd9]

These are smarter Russians that don't want to die for putin

[@sergeybebenin]

​@@davidnoelfranks1124you forgot to add 3 more zeros

[@VaduzVaduz]

​@@davidnoelfranks1124informe de Putin TV.

[@niburu1508]

What are US draft dodgers then. What about the rich Ukrainians who were able to buy their way out? Ask your Mom or Dad to give you a cookie and get outside for 10 minutes.

[@sergeybebenin]

@@niburu1508 what about Peru army dodgers? What about Pakistani army dodgers?

[@HighMarsUnited]

@@davidnoelfranks1124 Haha, orcbot 😆

[@moderndaycaveman2519]

I have to give credit to this news agency for actual concealing these guy’s identity. I’ve seen some who barely cover faces or disguise voices.

[@HighMarsUnited]

"Many live in constant fear". That sounds a lot like Ukrainian civilians being targeted by Ruzzian artillery and rockets.

[@piconano]

I admire them for not wanting to fight for an unjust cause and a pig of a man. I would've ran away too, and have a clear conscious for the rest of my life.

[@tomalmow3814]

AfD fascist party is not Russian 😂😂😂😂

[@masterlightjames950]

The pig of a man rescued their country and made it the superpower it is today. On second thoughts, I think the pig here is you.

[@puraLusa]

Don't offend pigs!

[@HighMarsUnited]

@@puraLusa Exactly

[@piconano]

@@puraLusa My apologies to all pigs.

[@lynnmcquillan2338]

God Bless you young men .. Men of peace 🙏

[@kingofdevils]

But sadly many of them still support Putin's activity and just trying to avoid being drafted

[@user-mh6pz8rq9d]

A very small percentage. Young people don't support Putin

[@uw0tm838]

@@user-mh6pz8rq9d don't kid yourself. there are PLENTY of young people who do support him!

[@zvonkobogdan9634]

@@davidnoelfranks1124 10's of thousands didn't want to die for ZIensky. Yet they were drafted, and died. That is tragic reaIity...

[@user-mh6pz8rq9d]

@@uw0tm838 just see some independent Russian sociology. Start with Ekaterina Shulman, she's the tip of the iceberg, but, unlike others, she has videos in English.

[@Peter-gt6jq]

​@@user-mh6pz8rq9dshulman is very very dependent if you look at her background 😂

[@a5cent]

It takes more courage to take a stance that contradicts the accepted narrative in society, than to just follow the other sheep to the front line. These men did well.

[@niburu1508]

Yeah like Julian ASSANGE and Edward SNOWDON and many more who have been left on their own as thanks for their bravery. More measured by the West by how many people you have killed.

[@Alex-lg6nz]

This is why the Americans and Western Europeans are spineless cowards. They don't do anything to stop their governments from starting offensive wars all over the globe.

[@user-ui7gf4os2q]

это трусливость он мог бы быть снабженцем есть служба без убийство людей по религиозным или своим убеждениям

[@James-9999]

@@user-ui7gf4os2qwhy aren’t you on the front lines then?

[@rodneypantony3551]

Canada has a tradition of protecting draft dogers and there's at least one case of accepting Russian draft dogers. Pay in Canada is pretty good. We really need tradesmen, or people willing to learn trades. Fully qualified, in Alberta Canada, skilled trades can make $60,000 to $250,000. Housing starts around $150,000 for an Edmonton condo that's well built compared to Russian standards because Canada's building code is pretty good.

[@a5cent]

Well, Canada looks great no matter what country you compare it to. At worst Canada gets a "similar living quality" rating (Switzerland, Finland, etc) Comparing Canada to Russia is just downright unfair. I do not live in Canada, but I was raised by a Canadian woman. She owned a house in Vancouver where she hid American draft dodgers who didn't want to go to Vietnam.

[@barbievideo6211]

Well fly them in from Tbilisi why not

[@niburu1508]

And your corruption level has risen and standing in the West dropped. You are better suited to Ukrainian draft dodgers.

[@harleyquinn8202]

I know some young Ukrainians who escaped to Canada because they don't want to die in this war.

[@ipincsmuhammad9162]

​@@harleyquinn8202western countries also killing babies to give Lucifer lizard and they don't have any religious

[@summersummer6141]

I saw a video 19 year russian boy broke his own arm his brother and friend help him😢 with big iron Rod.

[@justinlucas]

Stop the war 😔

[@summersummer6141]

99% people don't want war even 100% but why this happening

[@nozhki-busha]

Putin can stop the war he started anytime, he simply needs to send the military home and accept Russia has lost.

[@unknownuser6757]

Gotta wait until Putin kicks the bucket. The next president will stop the war

[@blind8686]

Important thing is, those people given a choice of living in exile or being imprisoned upon return, have all the motivation in the world to support the downfall of the current regime.

[@aliancemd]

This a repost of an older video but I think the original one was talking about 3 guys. Maybe I am wrong

[@the_grand_tourer]

Yep, pretty pathetic of DW to just be rehashing old material, doesn't engender trust in their reporting if they are more interested in KZbin earnings.

[@anotheranon3118]

What a shame of a country.

[@toyotaprius79]

The Shame is on the elite capital class. Both east and west.

[@mistressfreezepeach]

Nothing even close to what Ukraine and Western woke fascist countries do.

[@bobgonzales9680]

Ukraine being in high deficit in manpower....The failed counter-offensive shows to be a large scale killing process for the ukrainian troops.....

[@discosheepish2868]

@@toyotaprius79 It doesnt have much to do with capitalism, its got more todo with Russia and China taking on the west because they dont like trading in the dollar or having to play at international rules. It wants its own buck being traded where they can dictate the value and then make up the rules as they go along.

[@anotheranon3118]

@@discosheepish2868 Good luck to them, with the yuan and the rubBle. I think I'd rather keep my savings in Moroccan dirhams.

[@ihorarkhypchuk4168]

He and others are as responsible for ruzzias war as those in ruzzia. They didn't anything to stop ruzzia from invading.

[@mrchoudhury6611]

How many times lolensky has mobilized?? DW do you have any information 😅😅

[@boink800]

Every lie is two lies - the lie we tell others and the lie we tell ourselves to justify it. - Robert Brault

[@mrclaybecker]

Russia should say they want to focus on taking care of their own citizens for once. This constant offensive threats to its neighbors in Europe doesn’t help their citizens. Imagine being 60 living through collapsing USSR and now the Fed to be called up to fight your own cousins. This conflict will only bring more Misery and loss blood and treasure.

[@niburu1508]

mrclay - Unbelievable ignorance and arrogance

[@Alex-lg6nz]

60 year old people don't get conscripted. Edit: in Russia, at least.

[@lucasdarnell8551]

@@Alex-lg6nz The Russian state dissagrees with you, they just raised conscription age by a lot.

[@Alex-lg6nz]

@@lucasdarnell8551 1. You are not "The Russian state", so don't pretend to speak on its behalf. 2. You are lying. It doesn't "disagree" with my statement. The conscription age bracket in Russia is 18-27. Starting in 2024, it will be broadening to 18-30.

[@nozhki-busha]

@@Alex-lg6nzThey just raised the age you can be called up from reserves as high as 65, depending on branch of service and rank. Please cope more comrade it will really help when Russia eventually accepts they have lost, just as they had to in Afghanistan 79-89.

[@williamgary7891]

He is a very brave man 💪

[@pekranevikrane]

But he fear somehow..

[@anotheranon3118]

@@pekranevikrane Would not you be afraid?

[@pekranevikrane]

@@anotheranon3118 This thing called NOT brave man..At least.

[@williamgary7891]

@@pekranevikrane after the first time. IT is easy

[@Mr.Clownensky]

Brave? Lmao he just ran out to avoid service 😂 thats a big L and he will be known as the biggest coward by his people until he die lol

[@jirikrajnak9047]

"i don't want to kill people" actually means "i don't want to die"

[@agustinenzoa4447]

translated from ruzzian YES.

[@anmnou]

So? What's your point? Like that is not a valid enough reason?

[@jirikrajnak9047]

@@anmnou might as well say it as it is and not hide your cowardice behind empty platitudes that emphasize your cowardice.

[@ucNhoc]

doesn't make him a coward most people are both in these type of scenario

[@granceadalim8502]

much better to leave russia ,

[@JWMCMLXXX]

Everyone's OK with the system until it calls their name to sacrifice.

[@OnlyInhuman90]

Imagine living in a country with insane dictator like Putler where you can have military coming to your home at any time and taking you to the front line to find a certain death in a meaningless war

[@westsurfer87]

Don't think Ukraine doesn't do this either. They'll do it too in your country when ww3 starts. Did you denounce ww3 or have you been cheering for more weapons?

[@OnlyInhuman90]

@@westsurfer87 of course Ukraine will draft people to defend their home land from a deranged dictator attacking and killing them

[@glintongordon6811]

That doesn't happen in Russia only people who sign up for the army are being requested to go to war.

[@shafthespaceegg]

That’s how it used to be in the west too, only recently did the USA switch to an all volunteer force

[@nozhki-busha]

@@westsurfer87 lol cool story comrade. You are either a Kremlin bot or an appeaser who believes in peace at any cost. Either way you are below contempt.

[@placeswelive5388]

The first guy isn't a conscript. He is a contractor. That means he'd been taking the military's money for a while and now he, all of a sudden, has qualms about serving when called?

[@fatjay9402]

Good dude

[@filmeg6111]

Thou shall not kill...God bless u buddy

[@deinemudda1049]

How on earth do they still man the front?

[@jamesdoeberling7830]

Join the fight to oust Adolph jr. Putin

[@puskajussi37]

Is this video a repost? I could swear I saw this already about a week ago on this channel.

[@summersummer6141]

May be that was live stream

[@ropeburnsrussell]

Deserters are not heroes. Its one thing to flee war, breaking your oath is something else.

[@thetruthispotenza3602]

Yeah. Walking around hiding your face while everyone else is in shorts and a t shirt is a great idea

[@SonGoku-uv4pk]

Understandable but they just dont want to fight.

[@rod9829]

It’s your duty to die in a Ukrainian field for no reason!

[@Mortthemoose]

Says putin

[@glintongordon6811]

😂This is some bs nobody is being forced to go to war in Russia

[@user-hr3of6fc6j]

Let them believe

[@kowak69]

Except those who were drafted

[@kensanders0088]

Others ran off to Phuket Thailand

[@placeswelive5388]

It is ridiculous that in this day and age countries like Russia and Ukraine (and in Ukraine's case lock all their men in) are allowed to catch and throw their unwilling men into combat and that simply saying 'I want no part of your war' isn't an option.

[@niburu1508]

Place - Corrupt ‘comedians’ being paid to fight “ to the last Ukrainian” by US/ NATO might have something to do with it - what do you think? Warmongering/ profiteering - never heard of it?

[@jasminel9265]

It's pretty justified to order the mobilization when a country is invaded, which is like Ukraine. You're ridiculous to put Russia and Ukraine in the same category because Russia is the invader.

[@rogermartinez78]

Places exactly what country are you from, I can tell you in the United States we would declare martial law if the country is ever invaded and all able bodied person would fight to protect her. I am not sure what country you’re from but your country would do the same, don’t be selfish.

[@placeswelive5388]

@@rogermartinez78 You have got to know history to draw parallels to the present. The US has been invaded numerous times in its history, yet name one time when the US government locked all able-bodied men in (just to make sure you don't get exicited and start ranting about the Japanese internment, let me stop you right there: I am talking about the US government preventing ALL men from leaving the US, not restricting domestic movement of particular groups -- fire away).

[@rogermartinez78]

@@placeswelive5388 no country in the last two hundred have invaded the United States, the British did slightly over two hundred years ago. I know my history Ivan.

[@summersummer6141]

what about zlenskyy Draft . Putin and zlenskyy both are crazy.

[@Blitzkers99]

He doesn't even look fit to kill a Mosquito lol There are better and more ferocious Recruits in Wagner from Africa, Iran,Serbia,Russia,Belarus, Afghanistan,Iran etc Even Indian and Nepali Gurkha Regiments also Joined in

[@wiwinreject]

Being a soldier is not for everybody. Even if Putin successfully recruited these dudes. They'll just end up de4d in the battlefield. For sure they can help society in their own way

[@niburu1508]

Awe that is genius - z🤡🤡🤡👺👺👺

[@wiwinreject]

@@niburu1508 It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it. - Douglas MacArthur

[@ericcharles7632]

Russia knows exactly where you are, gimme a break.

[@Truthseeker371]

Yes, indeed many defects in Tiblisi. Why not other neighbouring nations? Belarus or Moldova? Central Asian ex-Comnunist countries must be hosting many, too. We pray the ceasefire is sought by Ukraine.

[@ottosaxo]

I would prefer to exchange them for just as many so-called Russia-Germans who became the great Putin Apostles and AfD supporters in our country.

[@cbm2156]

Likely he does not only want to kill people, but not to die in a worthless war.

[@Thomas.Deverell]

Interestingly enough Eritrean military deserters are given asylum across the world and those from Russia are not.

[@enckidoofalling2883]

Georgia is not abroad Peru would be abroad

[@BH-vh3iu]

Oh no, poor little cowards

[@tryingtocorrect]

Ye, its better to live than die for Putin. I agree. It "not at all clear" that dying for PUtin is the right thing to do. why take such a risk?

[@markgarin6355]

Georgia... Europe's Canada. Russian's are fighting the wrong enemy.

[@jorexthox4330]

Just don't show up...

[@nick00176]

He feared in abroad 😅 but dw showing, where they live 😂

[@marymarlow3646]

It’s sad that they still feel fear. Men who have fled often talk about feeling safe for the first time in days or weeks. Return to Russia for these 2 will only be possible if Putin is removed from power.

[@southpole4776]

The americans didnt dare to do this during the vietnam war. just shows how bad situation was in USA at the time

[@shafthespaceegg]

Lots of draft dodgers fled to Canada during the Vietnam War. Some still live there in fact, never able to return

[@billyponsonby]

Brave men both.

[@mohamedkhaireh9356]

"Igor" isn't an ethnic Russia slav. What is he?

[@TheZombaslaya]

Imagine caring more about buying a car than the lives of Ukrainians.

[@praveenspike]

Any person who runs out of his country when they need him or her does not have the right blood to live in that country.

[@bruceli9094]

It's Putin's war, not Russia.

[@Phoenix-ov5gg]

His country doesn’t need him to fight, Putin needs him to fight. If they all stop fighting tomorrow, Russia will be absolutely fine.

[@praveenspike]

@@bruceli9094 Who is Putin?

[@colin8696908]

Really inspiring story guys, now Can I get a real story from a real person about not wanting to die from f****** artillery fire.

[@Grimm-UGA]

To me the bomb drones are scarier. Atleast you can hear certain artillery shells before they land 😅 and you're right. I'd fight in past wars. I wouldn't dare fight in a war like this.

[@Greg-qz9dm]

Blame victoria nuland, and boris johnson

[@user-mu5jo5bb1i]

Now do the same In ukraine as people are being round up And Sent to the Frontline unwillingly.😡

[@Phoenix-ov5gg]

Tell me a country under attack that hasn’t done that, the difference is that for Russia this war is a choice.

[@user-mu5jo5bb1i]

@@Phoenix-ov5gg It is intellectually dishonest to Single out a few UNPATRIOTIC denizens and painting it as if Everyone in the russian army is being forced to fight. Its Quite ridiculous If you ask me.

[@Phoenix-ov5gg]

@@user-mu5jo5bb1i I don’t think patriotism has anything to do with it, true patriots are the ones who stood outside with a placcard saying ‘нет войне’, and fight for freedom within their country.

[@GreenAppelPie]

Good for him! He’d probably be dead by now in Ukraine

[@redroger7745]

There are millions of Ukrainians all over Europe, many living in hotels, who dodged the Ukraine mobilisation.

[@divelea]

Well hopefully.

[@bruceli9094]

Ukranians have the moral high ground and defenders advantage.

[@Mr.Clownensky]

​@@bruceli9094yeah according to western media 😂

[@rorychivers8769]

Ukrainians are welcome here, they can stay as long as they want while we liberate their country from Russians, Russians can die in a ditch in Ukraine for their Czar

[@gerrylee1687]

Russian lies

[@GSSurry]

Annoying background music

[@johnmusictvvlogmain8852]

History Even and I don't want to be a Soldier to conguer another one Peaceful Country... Unlimited Proxy Buissness Evil's War's Geographically Politically Repeatedly on this tiny Planet Earth...it's so SAD...

[@grannyappleseed]

See, there are good Russians too..

[@xaleu]

the guy runs asks for asylum and is rejected, wtf does nato expects the russians to do? Its either jail, ukraine or run, there should be a plan for immigration from russia to the nato countries for who wants to, mass immigration is a problem but so is the russian army having millions of soldiers and constant replenishment of troops

[@AbuBawa-sw1ut]

this guys should be much more afraid of racist/jealous/hateful Europeans

[@WhoWhoandZulu]

Hopefully one day all men will say "I don't want to kill anyone" , never fight a war for someone else's wealth ....Zulu

[@andrewdunbar828]

His personnel data? Surely that should be his personal data.

[@nathanielwilliams1677]

Don’t they think Russias hand are a little full right now???

[@grigol101]

This Russian in Georgia is not afraid of the special services, but of those Russians who now come to Georgia en masse for vacations. He is simply ashamed of his own cowardice and betrayal.

[@SDM496]

Igor can fly to Thailand or any other visa free country for the Russians.

[@j.z.5678]

Its hard for me to really feel sorry for the guy that signed up for the military on his own because that’s the chance that he took. It’s a trap. How many young Americans have been caught having to fight in pointless wars under the same circumstances?

[@niburu1508]

Millions - cemeteries full of them, streets full of those crippled by the sights and deeds they have seen and done , and you are never done with it. Thankfully you are not reaching your recruitment targets via the drug addicts you have allowed to increase but are using the likes of Ukraine to fight a proxy war for you. You need to be stopped.

[@danny_chestnut253]

Even if he signed up it doesn't matter because its a mandatory draft

[@j.z.5678]

@@danny_chestnut253 it actually does matter because there was a chance that he does not get drafted at all or just leave the country because he gets the letter like many did.

[@danny_chestnut253]

@@j.z.5678 again the draft is mandatory there isn't a chance.

[@anmnou]

He was 20. How dead inside do you need to be in order not to have empathy for a young man's mistake? Check your humanity, man!

[@kuchenkoren4051]

Not only Russian, but Ukrainian did the same thing enmasse. In Bali, Indonesia, flocks of Russian and Ukrainian crowded the island, they live side by side, sometimes they drunk and caused some troubles together

[@Exxperiment626]

Drunk Slavs? No way! 😂

[@westsurfer87]

People who are cheering for WW3 don't realize they're next to be drafted 😂

[@nozhki-busha]

@@westsurfer87 lol then you woke up comrade!

[@nozhki-busha]

Whataboutism. This is about Russians not Ukranians comrade.

[@westsurfer87]

@jansen4359 Duh, that's why I framed my statement the way I did. You think it's fine until YOUR country conscripts YOU. It's alright if you don't understand the subtleties of the English language, it's probably not native to you 😏

[@JosephHoggang-bk4bk]

Somehow, Russians deserve Putin, but most near by countries do not deserve a neighbor like Putin.

[@trroland1248]

Good luck, Gentlemen. At least, they don’t want to be murderers. 😏

[@NataliaBazj]

Why conquer Ukraine when Georgia accepts without fight?

[@exelsuremovers8889]

I am sure that there are a million Ukrainian as well dodging the draft.. this is not the story you think it is... 😂😂😂😂

[@jaycristoval6155]

They could also join the Russian Legion in Ukraine and fight for Russia's freedom from there.

[@dracoboomin6511]

if you join the army as a reserve, you dont just run away when called upon.

[@marcofranco6974]

dont hide, ¡FIGHT PUTIN!

[@barbievideo6211]

More Russian men would fight putin

[@merlindragon3172]

IS THIS IN RUSSIA OR AMERICA! ALL WOKES LOOK THE SAME.

[@TravisJones812]

He is not high-value enough for Russia to pursue abroad. Nobody is going to Novichok him. He should relax and try some Georgian wine and look for other paid DW token interviewee opportunities.

[@Cutthecamerasdeadass1899]

"I'm afraid they will find me so I'm hiding. I'm not afraid to 💀 or get locked up....I just don't want to unalive ppl" Some math ain't MATHING

[@leet3207]

The same is happening in Ukraine with forced inscription of Ukrainian men. It seems the common person doesnt want to go to war only the rich pyschopaths with share in weapons manufacturers

[@bobfom8494]

Now talk about ukranian draft dodgers. Why don’t you

[@MrWhitmen1981]

Because they don’t necessarily overlap with distain for the regime they intend to evade from. They simple just don’t want to fight as oppose further a dictatorship aim.

[@unspecialist]

Just came back from a vacation in Cannes and there was tons of Russian dudes of all ages there enjoying the beach.

[@harleyquinn8202]

Some of them Ukrainians

[@stanobert3475]

These two young men need a break! There have to be some countries out of this region who can give them asylum.

[@johnfrancisco1851]

Slava 🇺🇦

[@nozhki-busha]

Heroyam slava!

[@trevsmith5825]

How will the patriotic and brave young people in Germany respond to the draft when called upon by the German government to once again fight a war in Russia again, should be the concern.

[@micaeloliveira2727]

This war is a shame . Mothers and wifes ate selling their family man's. They have great wages and life ensure , a Ukrainian soldier os worth 400.000 euros a fortune can't understand how is possible for Ukraine to pay . Ukrainian man are afraid to leave home because of conscription ove been there and i saw it 😢 so many people without arms and legs 😢

[@lbarbato6425]

Putin should be looking in Bali Indonesia, heaps of Russians there, so I’ve been told.

[@TrixiLovesYou]

Power to the guy who doesn't want to kill people, but his fear is the price he deserves for political incompetence and passivity. It is nothing compared to what Ukraine is paying with every day.

[@niburu1508]

Trip - whether you ignore it or not the Donbas had it for 8 years - so get educated before passing judgement. No decent, working person want wars. Get your warmongering murdering, criminal government to stop it or 🤐🤐🤐🤐

[@patrickcowan8701]

Your actually reporting the Ukrainian situation. 180° spin.

[@KarlaWagnerEU]

The broadcast was a focus on the people themselves, who expressed no opinion as the the justness or unjustness of Moscow's war against its neighbouring country. It was about survival. I'm curious, where are the Moskali who are outraged? In a totalitarian country, I imagine them isolated and voiceless; however, what of Moskali abroad?

[@waynegore5291]

There are many Ukrainens between18 and 60 living in Europe outside Ukraine. It's illegal according to Ukraine law after Feb 22,2022.

[@Ptolemy336VV]

a brave man. It's at a time of fear where you show you are brave. are you brave when you make your coffee and a boiled egg? Or are you brave when people rob someone and you stand in fear. This metaphorical example is why bravery will show its true face in the face of a terrible event unfolding

[@niburu1508]

🗣💩🤢🤮- Man is a disintegrating entity due to his greed an stupidity. Sooner the better. Got the whole world as a war zone.

[@bruceli9094]

Imagine living peacefully and suddenly the government forces you to invade another country and very likely die. If I was Russian I'd escape to America, appear on CNN and write a book on the ordeal. Live Life MY OWN WAY 🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@Kknewkles]

A lot of us did(though maybe not the books and CNN part). I'm stunned how do many indeed managed to get into US. They must have known something I still don't 😂

[@Mr.Clownensky]

Can I ask you what will happen to soldiers in america if they refuse to go to Afghanistan, Libya or Iraq? 🤔🤡

[@Grimeyhoob]

I think Putin should recruit all the Africans and Arabs who love to sniff his behind like dogs. And also Chinese don’t care about living or dying / they love to bow down to Xi, so they can do it for Putin.

[@Grimeyhoob]

@@Mr.ClownenskyStupid comment. America hasn’t had a mandatory call up since world war 2. No one is forced to join the military like Russia.

[@foilhat1138]

@@Mr.Clownensky the US has a volunteer army.

[@rahimamin4967]

He is a German moking the Russian, someone from DW spy😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@delos2279]

Completely understandable. What young man would want to live in Russia at this point? Not even Oligarch's children want to.

[@dwade2026]

Lafemme Nakita

[@tgddtd698]

Glory to RUSSIAN always 🇷🇺 Z ❤️ V 🎉 Ukraine Will Loose Eventually Zelenkys NATO 💥

[@boink800]

“Hate isn't healthy, it damages the hater more than the one who's hated!” ― Eric Jerome Dickey, Liar's Game

[@megaotstoy]

Russian draft exiles should go to Ukraine if they wish to know WHAT the "draft exiles" life really looks like LOL

[@davmetz4451]

As long as Ukraine strikes offensively towards the Russian lines I see zero reason for Russia to advance. They should and seem to be happy to sit on their defensive lines and whittle away at Ukrainian men and armor. This is a tactic Ukraine simply cannot afford to continue to do for a long period without massive loss of combat effectiveness. Then and only then in my opinion we will see Russia make a large move.🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑🤑

[@peabase]

As in Russia making a large move like Bakhmut? Pfft.

[@ChrisVillagomez]

So Bakhmut the Ruin is Russia winning? They took one former town, and lost Kharkiv and Kherson to do so

[@bruceli9094]

@@peabase This is Russia's Afghanistan War 2.0 🤣

[@peabase]

@@bruceli9094 There's no comparison. This is way worse than Afghanistan.

[@davmetz4451]

@@peabase No reason to stutter fool! How much russian territory has ukraine taken dummy?

[@graphosxp]

💙💛✌🗽