RWBY 6x12 "Seeing Red" & 6x13 "Our Way" reaction & review

[@jittercritter]

As good as it is that Adam is dead, I like that the show doesn’t really portray his death as a victory. It’s like Blake said in volume 1, life is not the same as a fairytale. Life can be cruel and ugly and bitterly unfair. But Blake is free now, at least, much more free than she was, and she knows now not only that there are people who love her, but that she deserves that love to begin with. Also I’ve seen people complaining that Adam’s death shouldn’t have been what brought them together, but I think they missed the point. His death *didnt* bring them together-he dies because they had already brought *themselves* together. They talked about their problems, they worked things out on their own. And because of that, when he came back, they were strong enough to take him on.

[@KingTaltia]

31:40 - I always love this line, the actress sells it. Pay closer attention to how she's talking. "YOUR FAULT! Your Fault! your fault. your... fault... She's not talking to Ruby. Cordovan's talking to herself by the end of it. I've had those kinds of moments, it's... heartbreaking.

[@kkTeaz]

Imagine having a guilty breakdown, _couldn't be me_

[@call_me_Greg]

Jaune foreshadowed the Leviathan earlier when he said, 'it's probably used for large grimm coming in from the seas". Also, at the beginning of chapter 12, while the soldiers were cheering on Maria, there was a blip on the radar in the foreground, signalling the approaching Leviathan.

[@SirsMadamsEntertainment]

Just wait until you hear that full song later and it’s true meaning… 😭

[@Qrow-Samedi]

Cant even listen to this small part, without getting wet eyes.

[@sitruc22000]

So true, so absolutely true!

[@knightmare3197]

I do appreciate that the song talks about Adam as a victim of the world's cruelty instead of acting the more extreme fans who were just.....so over the top about wanting him dead.

@@knightmare3197 Pretty sure we're talking about Indomitable here, not Nevermore

[@SirsMadamsEntertainment]

@ correct.. Indomitable is what was being referred to

[@marie-evesimard725]

This scene with Adam being killed and Blake breaking down is one of the most emotionally strong of the entire show. Ultimately, the only way she was able to escape Adam was by killing him. It's easy to understand her trauma. They are huntsmen, they kill grim, not people. She not only had to take a life, but the life of someone she used to love, was close to, someone that made her suffer and she had to run away from. But she finally faced him, by Yang's side. Also, I feel like she got to the root of her habit of running away, and was very distressed that Yang might think she would do it again. Kudos for the girls. That scene still makes me cry even after the 100th watch. PS : Best video reaction ever.

[@ChaosArdor]

"Indomitable" is always a real tear-jerker for everyone. I guarantee you'll get the waterworks too.

[@glays4757]

The Ruby used her eyes on the Leviathan was incredible. But diving down a cannon was either bold or carzy.

[@sitruc22000]

Both!, Yeah Both!

[@brandondodge6040]

That was straight up a Clone Wars Anakin move. It was great lol

[@PheonixFire]

And yep that was our first good look at Summer Rose without her hood. Seems like she's on the same cliff her gravestone is too.

[@undeathghost5627]

Feel like alot of people don't pickup on that the vision of Summer is the knowledge Jinn was talking about giving her freely. I thought Melissa might get there because she even commented on the fact that Ruby was incredibly young when Summer left. Ruby doesn't really remember Summer like that... and it speaks to how much Ruby idolizes and is infatuated with her mother that she needed that in this moment.

[@MrJeffreytwo]

"I mean look at that thing! It wasn't designed for fighting small targets, it's probably meant for larger grimm that come in from the water!" Kinda hit the nail on the head there Jaune.

[@BuzryHaproMandalorianHunter]

All the FNDM cried when we saw mama Rose too.

[@bitsobaconbits4295]

Nah my eyeballs just sweat profusely

[@BuzryHaproMandalorianHunter]

@@bitsobaconbits4295 Did you catch that onion ninja?

[@profesorpomelo3626]

The way the confrontation between BY and Adam ended wasn't pleasant for me either. It was not even bittersweet; it was just bitter. I don't think Adam was a poor-written character. He was what he always was: a broken boy full of spite. And his death was inevitable because he was too far gone. The saddest thing about him is that I don't think that everything about his relationship with Blake and the White Fang was just an act. His mindset of being the hero of the story no matter what he did is something that remains throughout the series. By the time he is killed by BY, he has lost everything: his dream of a better world, his followers, and the only person who saw his vulnerable side. All because he made everything about himself. That's when he finally realizes that he was just deluding himself. He wasn't the hero, because heroes don't die. Anyway, this is how we said goodbye to the first voiced character.

[@Cyrinil142]

You say first voices character but you forget; unnamed announcer at weiss' white trailer performance! Or Weiss's singing voice if you want to count Casey.

[@JBasilix]

Preach it! I was so pissed when so many people said he is a badly written character and that he was wasted. That was one of many moments where I had to realize that a lot of the RWBY fandom sadly has no idea what good writing actually is. The first time we meet him in the show (not counting the trailer or the end of volume 2 since therer he only said a single sentence) he literally was set up to be the bad obsessive boyfriend. Then they expanded on that with the Fang but at his core he remained exactly what he was introduced as. That is not bad writing, it is consistency.

[@cruz5531]

@@JBasilix ikr I've never seen adam as poorly written or a waste of potential because we do see his characters decline into spite and hate and that's done on purpose

[@jittercritter]

@@cruz5531 And the people who claimed he was nerfed clearly just weren’t paying attention… dude literally 1.) Tailed them all the way from Haven 2.) Slaughtered an entire Atlas outpost 3.) Fought Blake one on one 4.) Fell from a massive height 5.) Fought Blake one on one AGAIN 6.) Got recked by Bumblebee 7.) Fought both Blake and Yang 8.) Fought Yang THEN he finally died. And during all of that he almost killed both Yang and Blake on separate occasions. Like… that’s insane?!? After going through ALL OF THAT his aura broke around the same time as Yang’s, who joined the fight late to begin with. He was literally terrifyingly powerful all the way up until his death, I have no clue how people think he suddenly got weak in volume 6 Edit: I would also like to point out that he did all of this in a huge downwards spiral mentally. Like idk abt y’all but when I have a mental breakdown I just eat chips and cry.

[@marieporter9488]

@@jittercritter Everything you said is fact, and the last sentence is a mood

[@Badger77722]

The after-credit scene: Salem and her army of flying monkeys (well, sorta).

[@andrewlucaschism]

"Fly my pretties!"

[@shadowfragment]

I'm really glad that you wear headphones for your reactions. Because of how passionate and excited you can get, you sometimes talk over big moments, but you never actually miss the things that are happening because you can still hear it even if I can't. EDIT: Also, I'm super looking forward to the soundtrack review. This season had such a great soundtrack.

[@andrewlucaschism]

You can visibly see(without them showing it) Qrow have a flashback to Summer telling him, "I need you to trust me."

[@oceandragoon3099]

Keep those flashbacks in mind. Ruby’s happiest and saddest memories are very important to the grand scheme of things

[@allocat5867]

"Oh" - Adam, 2018

[@DigiCount]

"That's what you say, man? F___ing 'oh'?!" --Flaming Shark

[@BGTitanAvatar]

The reveal that Atlas is a floating city was such a thing back when this finale aired. The art style they chose for the memories was so good! I always enjoy when they go that extra mile for memories and dreams. Bees vs Adam was such a highlight of the volume I can’t even. I was sad that Blake and Yang had to go that far but as an audience member i was so happy to see that Adam would no longer be able to torment Blake again. Honestly I’m looking forward to the soundtrack reaction for this one. It’s so good! As always.

[@antoniobeltranthesumosnipe8634]

That song is Indomitable. One of 3 rwby songs that do not leave a dry eye every time I hear them. ( Cold and Forever Fall are the others)

[@marieporter9488]

Make that 4, as of Volume 8

[@freemovies411]

Watching those flashbacks with Ruby, with you, has just reminded me like...how long I've been watching your RWBY reactions. Like, good word. XD

[@KitsyX]

We’ve kinda seen Summer before, in volume one opening and in the picture of Team STRQ in volume three, but never clearly… Volume 1 it’s pretty much just her cloak and in the picture she’s pretty hidden under her cloak, though you can see her a tiny bit.

[@Jabberwocky402]

I just gotta say that I have really enjoyed watching you enjoy this series. I can't wait for when you start season 7 and see ypur reaction to episode one! You will have a whole new love for this series. And season 7 and season 8 have a lot of story to unpack...looking forward to you perspective.

[@silvereyed]

I love that silver eyes is literally the power of friendship.

[@EtherealSky5594]

Try your very hardest to avoid seeing the opening for Volume 7 Chapter 1 until AFTER you see the episode itself. :) Loved these reactions! can't wait for the soundtrack stuff

[@dragon2218]

20:45 "Ma'am, we've been trying to reach you about your car's extended warranty" 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Run! Its Godzilla!!!! But due to international copyright laws, its not. But we should still run like it was Godzilla!! But its not. Aaaaaaaahhhhhhh!!!!!

[@Mirality]

Close. The last line is actually "though it isn't".

[@jess_serin]

Neo stole an Atlas Airship, that scene was her revealing that it was under disguise and she could change it easily.

[@_charademon_]

Uuuuu That was unexpected and i didnt even realised

[@midofae]

Cannot wait for the soundtrack review, this is one of my favs

[@unicornburger16]

Hello and farewell to Lenny the Leviathan, you will be missed. 😔

[@RinnzuRosendale]

The blindfold is not blakes bow. Her bow is in the middle of the ocean.

[@Dannysapphire]

Saying I'm excited for the soundtrack and the next volume is an understatement

[@itachiuchiha6604]

Technically if they didn't steal the ship the big mech wouldn't have been brought out so it was kinda there fault but not really cause she didn't need to bring that out just send the ships so both groups were technically at fault

[@oceandragoon3099]

Both groups are at fault but definitely Cordovin more so. They probably could have at least heard Qrow out since he’s a professional with a license

[@itachiuchiha6604]

@@oceandragoon3099 no arguments here i was just pointing out it was both sides wrong but she was absolutly more at fault send the flat youd have been alright and shiuldve listened to crow but yeah love the moment of seeing summer

[@aerialmacaroon6312]

@@oceandragoon3099I wonder if winter and or ironwood had qrow on some kinda of ignore list

[@XFizzlepop-Berrytwist]

@@oceandragoon3099 Even this aside… Would it have been such a big deal for Cordovin to just attempt to deliver a message to Ironwood? They could get a message out in a day, response in a day, then let the group head out. 3 day operation. Or if they were willing to let Weiss through but no one else? Surely Weiss could have played a couple people off as staff under her. XD if they discussed that plan beforehand. Then that group could maybe have tried getting to Ironwood, I dunno.

[@emdivine]

The credits song Nevermore is in fact a duet together with Adrienne Cowan. They voices match very well and I have difficulties telling who's singing what most of the time, but there are two of them :)

[@darrenardron6953]

Your emotions in rwby have been a roller coaster. Especially on Patreon lol bless ya xx

[@donafandoms9259]

Hi!! I really love your RWBY reactions ♡♡♡ the way you let yourself feel everything like is actually happening, I love it :3 Would you take the recommendation of watching Trollhunters?? Idk if you already watched it but would be awsome to do it if you haven't :3

[@_charademon_]

NEVERMOOOORE

[@marieporter9488]

THE SPIRIT IS INDOMITABLE

[@PheonixFire]

Love that Ruby's memories are in better graphical quality than reality was lol

[@MarrowsRedemptionArc]

the thumbnail is a mood lmao

[@justinr1513]

Say what you want about this volume and all of the controversy over adam, but 1 thing we can never deny is Jeff and Casey Williams delivering on the soundtracks. The Volume 6 soundtrack is personally my favorite out of the whole show, and your reaction to it is going to be lit 🔥.

[@nerdydani4243]

The soundtrack is amazing and I can’t wait to watch you listen to it! ❤️😭😭😭

[@gohanmoreno7]

This was my favourite volume yet.

[@LuminantLion]

"Grimmzilla???" has the same vibe as "Da vinki???" lmao

[@chrisa.2323]

Next volume is my favorite!

[@marieporter9488]

How? I can only list one good thing about next Volume, and I won't say it because spoilers. But I absolutely HATE Volume 7

[@chrisa.2323]

@@marieporter9488 Well I found a majority to love and hated almost nothing. I absolutely LOVED Volume 7.

[@marieporter9488]

@@chrisa.2323 What about it did you like?

[@chrisa.2323]

@@marieporter9488 Almost everything, like I said.

[@marieporter9488]

@@chrisa.2323 After she's reacted to the Volume 7 finale, please respond to me with specifics. If you want to, that is. I'm struggling wrapping my mind around the fact that people actually like Volume 7

[@genericdreamers831]

Did you notice the second city on the ground in the literal shadow of the first in the clouds? I think it's pretty obvious what that is.

[@khairoohsem6327]

Crying all you want now and soundtrack reaction but you will be happy during volume 7

[@lexlarae8466]

Ready and waiting for the soundtrack for this season and then some. Season 7 its game time lets go!!!

[@silvereyed]

Ruby out here getting over it

[@olivercb7107]

For your own sake, don't watch the volume 7 intro before the first episode, tryst me when I say you'll thank me for the spoiler I'm saving you from

[@hydragames3438]

umm you know the intro happens after the first episode , therefore its not a spoiler

[@olivercb7107]

@@hydragames3438 just wanted to make sure she didn't watch it first, thanks for clarifying, I watched it on bluray and in movie form the intro is before the first episode

[@Scaring-Crows]

@@olivercb7107 That's kinda fucked up lol

[@jeffreysmith236]

Hey Weiss, hey Qrow, how are they supposed to deploy the fleet? What is wrong with their current deployment? Looks great to me.

[@pyromite38]

I assume that the ships normally stay at the hangars. Having all of them in the air, in formation at ready, must be consuming some resources. Even if gravity dust could keep them airborne for all eternity without the need of refill, there would still be personnel (who could be doing something else, for example patrolling and disposing nearby Grimms) operating those ships.

[@Mirality]

Also, many of them should be on patrol elsewhere in Solitas and Anima, not all here.

[@TenebrousFilms]

Qrow's little leap off the cliff, further proof that he can only change form when unobserved? Perhaps the last time he trusted Summer, she never came back. Cordovan continues to act the unstable idiot; perhaps she would have listened if Ruby had pointed out that her tantrum was sure to bring the grimm. Meanwhile, now we know why Blake didn't toss Adam's sword when she had to chance: so Yang could do it instead. I probably said, last time, that Yang shouldn't get the shakes in the middle of a life-threatening situation; turns out, she was faking it from the start. As a result, Adam is Definitely Dead. His fans wish he hadn't been 'reduced' to a misogynistic asshole; I think that was always the plan, but this volume suggests he was one from the start, instead of being corrupted over time (like his short suggests). Perhaps they changed it so they wouldn't stack one 'good intentions gone bad' character arc on another... And thus is Neo's new purpose in the story revealed: Cinder needed a pilot. That's almost all she does for the next two volumes, be pretty and taxi bad guys around. Hey, Cordovan is freaking out again... it's a shame *she* doesn't attract any grimm! Love the 'huntspeople assemble' musical callback from volume 3. You remembered the lamp draws grimm before they did! The song during the silver eyes is specifically for Monty, you're not the only one to be moved to tears by that scene. And this is the final performance of this Qrow voice; I like to blame the change on his quitting alcohol. It's not as smooth a transition as Mercury between volumes 2 and 3, but it works. I don't care how inconsistent Remnant's physics are, there's no way even that wingspan could bear the weight of that much muscle... on the other hand, flying apes are far more intimidating than flying monkeys.

[@TheGreater-ScopeVillain]

Like Salem, Cinder only uses people until they are no longer useful. Unfortunately for Neo, attempting to assassinate her when they were meant to be on the same side is not a good look for her in Cinder's view. But, who knows, Neo should be okay in Cinder's books, just as long as Neo doesn't do anything else to upset her... 😐

[@pyromite38]

Ruby: We can do this without adults! Ruby when fighting Cordovin with Ozcar: We are the others? Ozcar: You said we could do this without them. I'm not sure if even I should be here, since my mind is fusing with one millennials old.

[@chrisbaker8822]

Lets goooo finally its monday

[@deadsha5492]

the mech fight is easily the most underwhelming fight. it took multiple episodes and it took forever for anything to happen. ruby jumping down the barrel of the mechs cannon was really the only part i liked. the rest was alot of nothing.

[@nepnep1149]

Goes from getting one shot to equal footing in a few volumes with zero work towards it. Great plot

[@senorsiro3748]

The Adam death scene is a hotly debated scene on which everyone has their own angle. Honestly, the closest I have ever seen this fan base to breaking was in the weeks following its initial release. Personally, I find some specific but serious archetypal and tonal issues with the execution (cinematography, set design, choreography, and instrumental score) that outright unsettle me, while also recognizing Yang and Blake also didn’t do anything wrong and that Adam was a bad person with throughout the entire show.

[@LukaBlight69]

In my personal opinion, they botched Adam's character with turning him into an obsessed psychopath as opposed to making him a potential sympathetic villain/anti-hero. Seeing him die to Yang and Blake was not satisfying to me as it felt more like a euthanization of a character they had no idea how to write as someone who could be sympathized with. RWBY seems to bounce between trying to introduce complex narratives, but not following through with nuance. In the cases of Salem and Ozpin, they succeed in making them complex characters with layers and grey areas, but with Adam, they made it almost too easy to hate him. Tyrian for example is easy to hate too, but he's such a fun villain. Same with Roman and Watts. Adam just disappoints me. I was also somewhat against Ruby and Jaune for this plan as Cordovan was just doing her job. It sucks that they couldn't tell her about the relic and Salem, but I also do appreciate that Ruby acknowledged she messed up and Cordovin was like "Yes you made a mess, but you did clean it up. I'll let you pass and we'll call it even." V7 and V8 are peak RWBY though, I have my issues with them, but both are the best in terms of story, action, and narrative in my opinion. I hope you enjoy them like I did. :) Edit: Salem: Fine, I'll do it myself. Yep, Salem is leading the next big charge.

[@Dylan-pq3ny]

I'm always a bit confused when people talk about Adam's character this way as if there was a sudden shift and he just turned into a petty dickhead after volume 3 but he's been like that since the black trailer. He was going to let all of the innocent people on the train die for no reason which is just petty and evil. I don't think he was the best written character but to say he was "botched" implies that he was at one point an interesting character which he has never been. And I agree about volumes 7 and 8, can't wait for her reactions

[@DigiCount]

I see this response regarding Adam everywhere and it's always confusing. If CRWBY didn't want people to feel something complicated regarding Adam, then why have him branded by the SDC? Why does Nevermore explicitly go out of its way to mourn him? The problem is that the harm done to him was past and the harm he intended was imminent. Sometimes that's just the way things go, and given the events of chapter 1 Adam had nothing left to fixate on but Blake and Yang. Saying that he should have been written as an anti-villain or more sympathetically is, in this case, basically saying that they should have written a different character.

[@sidous471]

I gotta be honest, even taking out my bias against Adam, I don't see any... USE for Adam.

[@Cyrinil142]

I don't know why people say this about Adam. He was always like this in every scene except one. (Where he was telling Cinder that he wasn't interested in renting goons to humans.) In literally every other scene he's murdering people for fun/racism and/or being a creep about Blake. Sienna Kahn is the character you were describing. I don't think anyone disagrees with the perspective that she was killed off too quickly and had a lot of potential for moral complexity. Even the writers have owned up to an oopsie on that one. Basically I'm asking why so many people think Adam is at any point been sympathetic or use phrases like "turning him into an obsessed psychopath." To me that's like hearing somebody say they "turned cinder into a raging narcissist" or "turned Yang into a reckless hothead." I don't get it.

[@TurtleOfAngst]

So you invented a character upon seeing the Black Trailer (but not listening to it), and proceeded to ignore every piece of actual characterization that followed? Are you also upset that Yang wasn't a Mecha Pilot, or that Qrow isn't secretly Ruby's mother? CRWBY did a GREAT job accurately depicting an abuser, and how they might twist and corrupt good things for their own selfish ends, and all the nuance that goes with it. Adam SHOULD NOT be sympathetic. Pitiable, sure. He's a man-child raging at anything and everything that doesn't literally bleed for him, that's pathetic enough to be pitiable. But from the VERY BEGINNING, the Black Trailer, it was demonstrated that he ENJOYED killing and threatened violence against anyone who questioned him. There is nothing sympathetic about that, at no point does he attempt anything heroic. TL;DR If you want and Edgy White Boy Anti-hero, you're better off making an OC than making Adam THAT out of character. His role was to be an evil corrupting the White Fang and haunting Blake, and he served that purpose marvelously. Can't WAIT for you to say the same BS about another character that was clearly a villain, too!

[@alannorris3819]

Who else loves how they massively downgraded adam to push the yang/blake narrative? A narrative that makes no sense given what's gone on in previous volumes.