Rwby 8x3 REACTION "Strings"

[@BlindWave]

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[@maverickmak]

One of the writers talked on reddit a little about how Marrow's 'Stay' semblance works. Obviously its super powerful, so it needed some balancing. It burns his aura very quickly, so his timing needs to be right, and be wary of the duration of use. Presumably moreso against other strong aura users. Marrow mentions struggling to hold the effect whilst Nora bursts through the door. It also seems relative aura strength may play a part, so wearing Penny down likely helps. Especially as she is a Maiden. Had the fight continued, Marrow would presumably have been very vulnerable.

[@theycallmebad]

Not to mention he can only do it in one direction at a time, and he can't move. So using it 1v1 without anyone able to help him renders it useless.

[@maverickmak]

@@theycallmebad Like his fight with Weiss and her Knight.

[@sparknazo]

His semblance is similar to the Tock girl from Maria's flashback her semblance while op drains their aura

[@Cyrinil142]

Everyone's semblance drains their aura to a degree. It seems like Blake's is really easy to use near constantly. meanwhile Sun can't hold his for more than a few seconds before his aura breaks; or at least is on the verge of breaking. He took a near lethal hit from Ilya and he hadn't been touched that fight at all. Marrow's semblance also appears to be directional and throughout this fight with Penny he was either off his feet or Vine or Harriet would've been caught in the way.

[@RWBYfreak]

Do you happen to have a link to the reddit post?

[@johanliebert9872]

It was really sweet how she called him Dad, Pietro didn't make a weapon, he made a daughter and the world of Remnant is better off for it. Beware Ironwood and Watts that he will make you pay dearly for daring to do this to his daughter. Not to mention one of the genius aspects of RWBY is the literary allusions it plays with across the fairy tails it draws from. Seeing how they are played, straight, twisted, reversed, or subverted with Joan of Arc, the Wizard of Oz, Achilles and the Tinman. I know that in the story pinocchio and Geppetto are swallowed by the whale at the same time, but what if Pietro willing goes in the whale to save Penny for the last time. Excellent episode with an ominous ending but now we're waiting another week to find out what happens to Oscar. That's torture.

[@deshaunfortune912]

It's still mad weird that he made a his daughter white with red hair and freckles instead of in his own image. Hell at the very least she would Asian since she was issued by Ironwood who has asian features.

[@Ask4This]

@@deshaunfortune912 The early seasons had no brothers and they wanted more diversity so they threw in as much as possible in later seasons, logic didnt account for shit

[@pyrothemusical]

5:57 I think this may be the best scream that I've heard from a voice actor in a long time.

[@a.mseymour180]

What about v7 when cinder got stabbed in the grimm arm

[@kkTeaz]

@@a.mseymour180 that sounded more like she was on the verge of tears, which is incredible voice acting yes, but not technically a scream

[@YumaNanami]

Not really a power up, you can see Ruby combine with Nora to take down the Geist in Volume 4. She's just never thought about using her power like that much. But now that she knows more, she could definitely get more use into it. Ironwood want's to open the vault, but it's to raise Atlas.

[@Ady66699]

Yeah I think she's done it a couple of times before but only with one other person.

[@Vyckaxxx]

Also its probably ironwoods semblance working against him

[@kaxewdisco3594]

It is a power up because now she knows there's not a limit on the amount of people she can carry. Considering she didn't even know she bursted into petals it makes sense for her to think she was just carrying people while still having their weight.

[@collecter343]

Not a Power Up in the traditional sense, more of just understanding her abilities better and being able to do cooler stuff because she now knows she can do it. Like Deku from MHA, Eren from AOT and many others, they had the power they just needed to understand how to use it properly for it to work.

[@nathanielreik6617]

@@Ady66699 She's done it twice that I can remember, once was with Nora in Vol.4 and then in the first episode of Vol.6 with Weiss.

[@johanliebert9872]

The fern-like patterns, known as Lichtenberg figures, occur when an electricity surge causes blood vessels to burst. In most cases, the marks are not permanent and can even disappear in just a couple of days.

[@GamerGrovyle]

I hope hers stay. They look badass.

[@Makverus]

I like how Weiss and Blake give Nora advice based on their own personal traumas. It may not be the best advice, but that adds to the imperfections of the characters - their advice is correct for their situations.

[@KitsyX]

And also still potentially helpful too.

[@deshaunfortune912]

RWBY has carried other people before by the way. She carried both Weiss and Nora before individually but she didn't necessarily understand how it worked or if she could do it with more than 1 person.

[@goat1408]

oh... *Ruby....threw me for a min reading lol

[@kkTeaz]

@@goat1408 just all of team rwby can do that, pretty normal

[@goat1408]

@@kkTeaz ?

[@jeffreysmith236]

Ironwood: Sorry I'm late, today has been ... murder.

[@kennyplop]

love the voice acting of the dude who got coffee spilled on em and the one scolding #1 dud

[@Shinransa]

I like to think the two guards are stuck in this elevator for the rest of this Volume because it is that slow

[@dre1426]

The Emerald wave in the op always cracks me up. She just wants attention. It’s adorable lol.

[@Makverus]

It's definitely a "Notice me, senpai" kind of wave.

[@KitsyX]

And also, notice that it's on Cinder's blind side lol

[@nico-v113]

It’s more “pathetic” since that’s clearly a toxic relationship.

[@Multigameguy35]

There was also the fact that Yang basically said to Ruby 'I know you were assigned the leader role, but your decisions haven't had much success lately so im'ma do my own thing'

[@morganpogue6965]

The volume is still going on and it will only get crazier from here.

[@arcadius2569]

I think the divide in the teams stems less from just having different ideas and methods and is more about losing faith in Ruby. Yang didn't say, "we've got different ideas, so let's split the team effort." She said that following under Ruby wasn't working out, Ruby's older sister didn't have the faith in her to follow her.

[@KitsyX]

Well, I think Jaune and Oscar still had faith in Ruby... But yeah, Ren and Yang probably are doubting... Although Ren has many things going on and is probably more focused on himself right now... Ruby is the idealist and Yang is more practical... Ruby signed up to be a hero and do her best, while Yang just wanted adventure and to kick ass, not a potentially unwinnable quest to save the world and while she's probably stronger than Raven, she's still afraid... On top of this I think everyone's on edge because they haven't slept for a day or two at this point... But yeah, that's what probably hit me the hardest... Yang was like everything for Ruby (except volume 4 where she was messed up maybe), now within the last two volumes she's gradually turned from her, leading up to this... At least as a leader anyway.

[@arcadius2569]

@@KitsyX Yeah, a lot of things are happening and people tend to focus their distress in different ways. It's not doom and gloom throughout the whole team, but I think it explains why RWBY/JNPR keeps bringing the sisters up. Because they're sisters.

[@noppornwongrassamee8941]

A bit of justification for why solo Penny was getting beaten by the Ace Ops: waaaaaay back in Volume 3, Glynda explained that Maidens used to be hunted by regular people (well, as much "regular" an elite warrior on Remnant can be) for their power. So yes, it's long been established that Maidens are vulnerable to regular people, especially when the Amber fight shows that they can be tag teamed and are vulnerable to more esoteric Semblances (Emerald's illusions for Amber and Marrow's STAY for Penny).

[@Jabbberwocky]

Also Ace Ops should've taken her with time stop and speed girl in an instant

[@sherbLP]

18:30 I like the fact, that Eric's most evil scheme would be ordering a 1000 pizzas :D

[@kkTeaz]

I mean, that's a lot of pizzas

[@nathanielreik6617]

The exact wording on Salem's immortality by the God of Light was that she must learn the importance of life and death and only then may she rest.

[@KitsyX]

That might just mean that she'll be at peace with herself though. It might not mean that she'll be mortal... Although technically both could count as a win.

[@ewanholme1687]

It's kinda funny, I love Penny too, but how the fuck do people expect her to solo the elite Atlas huntsman squad with maiden powers she got pretty much yesterday? xD

[@FixTheWi-Fi]

Especially since back in V3 we saw Amber, a maiden with likely more experience, get wrecked by Cinder's trio.

[@TheGreater-ScopeVillain]

@@FixTheWi-Fi Indeed.

[@galonski64]

@@FixTheWi-Fi it was said amber was new also. Though I feel like yes, she has more training I bet, but I love it shows, madian doesn't make them op too.

[@apassionatenerd.3564]

Eric: "What is the best way for Salem to die?" Aaron: "In her sleep." I swear, no other reactors are as funny as Blind Wave lmao

[@nathanielreik6617]

Ruby has used her power to take one additional person with her, but this is the first time she's done it with multiple people.

[@feifiefofum1]

i feel like you guys fundamentally misunderstand ironwood, he's no longer fighting, he's out to cut and run. he's not concentrating military might to fight back, he's abandoned mantle and the rest of remnant to salem to 'save' atlas. by running.

[@darrenardron6953]

The thing is Marrow he Semblence uses up a lot of Aura i believe and he can only hold them for so long, considering weapon is powerful and has maid powers seems like he could hold her much, and that depletes his Aura

[@zeke8921]

I’m so excited about what’s coming in this volume

[@chb2551]

So, if Ruby breaks herself down into her molecular components, then she can never be caught. If you put handcuffs on her, she can just break herself down to her molecular components, slip out of the handcuffs, and reassemble herself. No matter how hard you try, she can't be captured unless it's in a completely sealed room. But if it's completely sealed than no oxygen could get in so she'd die. The only way to capture her would be to put her in a room with a large amount of oxygen in tanks. Salem doesn't stand a chance of keeping her if she doesn't want to be kept. I wondered why it was that Penny fought out in the open instead of with her back to the wall. With her back to the wall, waiting for her friends, the Ace Ops could only have come at her from one direction. She wouldn't have to watch her back. Also, how is Penny going "oof"? She's a robot. She can't feel herself get hit and even if she did, she could just stand there and let them hit her all day and all that would happen is she'd get some dents. This fight made no sense. Sure, she's got an aura, but that doesn't mean that she isn't still made of metal which is a LOT stronger than skin. She could have surrounded them with her swords and made them fight in every direction while she waited for the door to be opened, or she could have fought them with her swords while she opened the door herself. Computers are much better than humans at being able to multitask. Her dad was watching and listening as well. He could have helped keep her calm and give her some ideas about how to fight them. He was the main one who made their weapons, after all. He'd know their weaknesses. They didn't detect her signal to him otherwise they'd have intercepted it, but Watts never mentioned that he'd seen any signal. If you can't get through a door because of a barrier, try the wall. Normally the wall is a weak-point in buildings because construction crews forget and just make a strong door. It's also too expensive to reinforce every wall throughout a facility that big. Penny could use her lasers to cut the wall around the door while the rest of her swords are fighting the AO. We've seen in the first volume even, how her weapons can cut right through the metal of the military. Cut a quick hole while the maiden's powers and her swords are holding them back. Easy peasy.

[@MrAuthor3DS]

14:20 Given what happens to her afterward, I'd say this is more like Kaio-ken.

[@bandoneple3217]

A couple things you guys gotta take into consideration with the Ruby/Yang argument, is that it wasn't JUST a disagreement about how to proceed. The big thing that has the others worried about their relationship, is that Yang called Ruby's leadership capabilities into question ( literally saying " I know we agreed to follow your lead, but that hasn't exactly been working out lately " ). Yang has pretty much always followed Ruby's lead without a second thought ever since she was made team leader. The only times I can recall that she didn't was when she (A) was super depressed after she lost her arm, and (B) was under the influence of the Apathy in Vol. 6. But now that shits hitting the fan again, she's starting to think that it might be because Ruby's not making good calls. Before I continue I want to bring up something else pretty important. From your discussion it sounds like you guys are kinda under the opinion that both Ruby and Yang thought that both plans ( Helping Mantle & Launching Amity ) had merit, and that they were disagreeing on which one should be the priority. But this isn't the case. Ruby sees the merit in helping Mantle, but is focusing on the long game. Yang however DOES NOT think Ruby's plan has ANY merit ( or at least not enough to justify trying it ). Cause the thing is, even if we can get Amity up and send a distress signal, there's no guarantee that help will arrive in time ( though Yang almost seems to believe that help won't come AT ALL ). So when you get down to it, the argument isn't about: one side thinks one idea is better, and the other side thinks the other idea is better. What it actually boils down to is that: Yang who has already started to lose faith in Ruby's ability to lead, now thinks that Ruby wants to waste time ( something they have very little of ) on a plan that ( in Yang's opinion ) is basically worthless, just because she ( Ruby ) "has hope" that it will work. So maybe now you can see why some of the others are a little concerned that there will be a big fall out from their fight. Sorry for the long comment, but I want to bring up one last thing. Yang thinks things have gotten so bad because of Ruby's choices ( primarily keeping what they learned form the Lamp of Knowledge a secret from Ironwood ), but if anything it's Yang's fault for what she did with Robin. Ever since she found out about the Relics and Maidens in Vol. 5, Yang has begrudged Ozpin for keeping secrets from them. And after the revelations in Vol. 6, she was absolutely livid with him for not trusting them. And now blames their situation on Ruby keeping secrets from Ironwood. But in what might be the most hypocritical thing I've seen in a while, Yang telling Robin about Amity not only actively betrays Ironwood's trust by sabotaging an op, and leaking confidential information. But in not telling anyone not even Ruby, she's doing the exact same thing she's getting so pissed at everyone else for. I love Yang, but with how she's been behaving lately, she's definitely the worst character in the main crew. I could go on a bit more why I think Yang's decisions to keep a secret is so much worse than Ruby's, but this comment is way to long as it is. :p

[@mizel.i]

I agree wholeheartedly. Yeah Ruby and Ironwood had their own faults or mistakes but Yang had too and she doesn’t acknowledge of it and made it sound like following Ruby will make it only worse(or thats how ı heard of it, you can think as you wish)

[@ughgowonsscalpandcrunchyvo4926]

I’m honestly just excited for Chapter 5 👁👄👁

[@TheGreater-ScopeVillain]

So am I. But I'm much more excited for Chapter 6. 🔥⚡👿⚡🔥 🗡

[@nemasisdemarini8339]

4:50 Watts is not typing anywhere near as fast as the words are appearing.

[@goat1408]

Fastball special......classic....miss those days.

[@Pablo360able]

I hope the theory about all the old guard of the Maidens doesn't pan out, because I read the spinoff books and I want Headmaster Theodore to make it.

[@nathanielreik6617]

Ironwood wants the spear to launch Atlas into the lower atmosphere out of Salem's reach.

[@xclrtr5747]

"She fought against them before and almost won" if by won you mean got the god of darkness to wipe out humanity then yeah I guess she won.

[@kzillajr]

when eric said "you know what they say" I immediately thought. "When I was a boy...."

[@sadi5713]

RUBY could disassamble someone an not reassamble... making her Thanos snipping powers strong. Noras powerup could be using Aura to dish out electrical shocks.

[@andrewhart5279]

Aaron mentioned Genlock in the outro, are you guys going to react to Genlock?

[@blueblade6174]

Did he? I really hope they do. It's got a lot of potential.

[@matthewletexier]

They had it on a poll, and I'm not sure the results of that poll. But I don't think they're watching it soon

[@maverickmak]

Maybe when S2 finally comes out on HBO.

[@Nimbl3_f0xx]

Btw, the relic is a staff, not a spear

[@NikkiTaLance]

Ruby has used her semblance with both Penny and Nora in the past. Just not with a giant group.

[@KitsyX]

Weiss too, once on the train to avoid the tunnel in the beginning of volume 6, if I remember correctly... Not sure if Volume 2 counts for Penny because although Ruby uses her speed with her, it doesn't change Penny's mass, as shown with how Ruby struggles with her because she's heavy... The first showing with splitting is with Volume 4 character short, I think, but I assume she wasn't paying attention at the time lol. I'm guessing she has been able to do it since volume 4 though... She does kinda change direction mid-air near the end of Volume 3 though... Maybe it started then?

[@TheGreater-ScopeVillain]

31:46 Eric: _"I remember I wrote like: 'Pietro getting sicker.' ..."_ Rick: _"I think it was the _*_sick hacking skills,_*_ Eric."_ Me: _"Actually, Rick, it was the _*_sick hacking cough."_* 😏

[@TheGreater-ScopeVillain]

Atlas won't fall if you just open the Vault. The Staff of Creation is currently producing an infinite supply of energy to keep Atlas afloat. But since the Staff can only be used for one purpose at a time, if someone claims the Staff and uses it for something else, the Staff will stop holding Atlas up, thus causing the city to fall then. So even if you take the Staff out of the Vault, Atlas will remain in the sky until the Staff is used for another purpose.

[@KitsyX]

Although you'd hope there would be failsafes to at least slow the city in an emergency... I guess that would be a huge undertaking and you'd need a lot of dust... You'd also have to keep it somewhat secret because people already think dust is holding it up and you don't want people to know about the relic... I guess you could claim it was for a propulsion system for other uses... I dunno...

[@a.mseymour180]

@@KitsyX well you were right

[@KitsyX]

@@a.mseymour180 Partially anyway ^_^;; There were things I was wrong about, but maybe in this specific case... Oh well...

[@MiraPacku]

the best way for Salem to die is in Osma's Arms

[@jonathanrobinson198]

The one thing I always found off about Ruby’s plan in particular is that last volume she confronted Ironwood about leaving Mantle and lifting Atlas higher in order to keep Salem and his prolong survival; but her plan is just as if not more of a long term plan the requires not helping Mantle in the moment in favor of thinking about all of Remnant.

[@TheGreater-ScopeVillain]

Ruby's plan is to help the entire world and Mantle at the same time. By helping the entire world, she will be helping Mantle. That's how she views it.

[@galonski64]

@@TheGreater-ScopeVillain getting help from the other nations, to come there to help

[@blueblade6174]

Ruby's semblance is close to a Logia from One Piece.

[@deshaunfortune912]

She ate the Rose Rose fruit lol

[@blueblade6174]

@@deshaunfortune912 ... no

[@risindupiyasena9893]

Hey guys will you be doing a reaction to the army of the dead teaser

[@gutscross9706]

am i crazy or does everyone remember the "you cant" as omg ozpin cant but somone else can, when her death condiditons were there from the begining, untill she learns the value of life and death, she shall walk the world, until she actually learns her lesson it's pointless, and untill she no longer has the power she has...... she wont... would be a shame if she was raising a protoge with the ability to steal magic power who could somday overtake her bring her to this low point, immortality without any power

[@nomi105]

5:56

[@galonski64]

I guess with Yang always supporting Ruby, this being at least for us, the biggest disagreement of plans, it just felt odd. More so for Blake and Weiss since Ruby is the leader too. For now, I feel it not bad, just different

[@BlueButterfly015]

Yeah, with all the secrets that came out about Raven and Oz, Yang was perhaps more uncomfortable with hiding the truth than anyone else. It’s clear she wasn’t okay with keeping secrets from Ironwood but followed Ruby’s lead because she trusted her. She also disagreed with Ironwood keeping secrets from Robyn (and the Council), only she had no hang ups about going against his orders. In that case, it did pay out because Robyn did end up reaching out to Ironwood to work with him and just last episode May admits its why she knew it was important to help RWBNP with Amity. On the other hand, keeping secrets from Ironwood did seem to backfire to some extent, that said since it wasn’t the only factor working against them it’s impossible to say if it was the right call or not. Regardless, I think it is naturally after everything that happened to question some of the choices they’ve made, especially for Yang whom has shown how increasingly frustrated she is with people keeping secrets about important things.

[@galonski64]

@@BlueButterfly015 there was really no right anwser, as of right now still too. He was already on edge, and maybe if they told him as soon as they got there, seem could played out different, he could have just taken off too, which been bad, as rwby and jprn were not train and equipped out to make a better difference too.

[@KitsyX]

@@galonski64 Yeah, personally I think Ruby's choice to withhold the full truth until later didn't change that much... And if she had told the truth, they were probably already working on the best plan they had (they didn't know, but remember that Salem only really went after Atlas now because she was worried that Ozpin could get Ironwood to call for aid from Vacuo and that's all she seemed really concerned about? Communication was probably most important)... No one knew what Salem was planning... When pressured, whether he trusted them more or not, Ironwood would probably snap and fall back to his raising Atlas plan, Team RWBY would disagree and try to stop him... Near enough same result... If he did it earlier before snapping, I believe Cinder and Neo had already infiltrated Atlas... He might have done it while Watts was visiting Jacques too... They'd be vastly outnumbered, but that hasn't stopped them causing problems before... If Neo could get in and sabotage something... If Cinder could ambush whoever the maiden was... Either way, raising Atlas is no good long term because they probably can't go out of range of dust working because all their essential stuff that runs on dust, even if the staff could take them further... If dust can work there, crafts can probably be made to get close enough to cause trouble... Make a missile that could deliver a sentinel or whatever... It wouldn't take a lot to take out a generator and the shield is gone... Along with the atmosphere... And if Salem gets the relic of destruction in their absence... Boy could they be in trouble.

[@thelazygamer1639]

"She's gonna change sides here pretty soon." *cough* *cough* *COUGH* *COUGH* Sorry, just started choking on the bullshit I just heard.

[@TheGreater-ScopeVillain]

Salem now knows that her powers don't even _compare_ to that of the Gods, not even in the slightest. She foolishly challenged them before, but was infinitely outmatched, especially given the fact that magic itself came from the Gods. As did humanity. And the entire world. So Salem's plan is not to try and fight the Gods, as she was defeated instantly and subsequently cursed with immortality the last time she tried to attack them, with the God of Light telling her that the only way the curse can be lifted is if she learns the importance of life and death as she should have.

[@TenebrousFilms]

She *does* have thermal vision! I always figured that was how she saw Blake's ears under the bow. That said, Penny's explanation of Ruby's semblance is complete and total pigswill. There is no negation of mass, our molecules are what give us mass. It doesn't matter how finely you dice a body, the resulting mess will have equal mass. But hey, the physics of Remnant always bend around the Rule of Cool, so, whatever? Cool fight, great to see someone else's team tactics; and Nora finally finds the limit of her semblance. I used to think grabbing the monofilament would remove half of Harriet's hand, but I guess the only reason they dismembered Penny is because they were within her aura. What *really* bugs me is that Penny is still remotely accessible, even after what happened to the knights and paladins at Beacon.

[@johanliebert9872]

Nah, you've never heard of mass negation in fiction before? Photons for example has energy and momentum but no mass, so the physics of Remnant is fairly accurate.

[@TenebrousFilms]

Photons are energy, not matter; there's no mass to negate. That said, Ruby's semblance acting like a Star Trek transporter - converting matter to energy and back - would make more sense than Penny's explanation.

[@KitsyX]

Maybe what she's saying is that the way Ruby's semblance works is by splitting them up into molecules and then acting on them individually with a force that then negates the weight in a way that their mass doesn't matter? I don't know, it's probably nonsense...

[@cptbabyface9804]

I know I'm gonna get a lot of hate for saying this but you should really do some research on the kind of person Chris Sabot is before you want him to get more VO work. The kind of things you find may make you see him in a new light.

[@krismarshall3803]

It's better to not think about RWBY's semblance and how Penny described it. I was perfectly fine with it being a mystery until the show decided to apply re-world IRL science to it....and its just flopped on its ass with its explanation XD. Not scientifically possible to even work the way she described it lol. It would have been better if they just said "Its dust power....ooooooohhhhh" *waves hands*

[@johanliebert9872]

Nah, you've never heard of mass negation in fiction before? Photons for example has energy and momentum but no mass, so the physics is fairly accurate.

[@KitsyX]

@@johanliebert9872 This said, aren't photons energy and not matter? Transferring between energy and matter doesn't seem to be what she was describing either... I don't know, I'm not an expert or anything, but I expect that if you don't take what she's saying too literally then it might not be too outlandish.