RX 6800 XT in 2023 Reviewed vs RTX 4070

[@cis9222]

The fact that you've got 13700k benchmarks for the 4070 but not for the rx 6800 is disgustang

[@ranchermud]

thats what got your comment a thumbs up and his video a thumbs down....try to see actualities and get a fanboy stacking results!

[@backseatpolitician]

Damn, I unsubbed to this channel like 4-5 years ago because of the nvidia and Intel bias. Looks like they are still on that.

[@michaelgalloway1359]

​@backseatpolitician fr, how are you going to directly compare two gpus when you're not using an identical rig to test on. CPU bottlenecks are a massive choke on potential performance

[@jason7934]

am i missing something bc he tested both gpus with a 9700k

[@jason7934]

@@michaelgalloway1359 i dont get it... he tested both with a 9700k rig and just the 4070 with the 13700k to see what difference a platform upgrade gets you

[@frankopanklaric]

My 6800xt is shining right now.

[@lukesaosky1860]

Its goated

[@hatim.bahrain]

Proud father moment 😂

[@Phynix72]

If it's for real, it might soon be shining in silicon heaven. 😇😂🤣

[@GrizzAxxemann]

Had one show up at my door last month. It's a freaking BEAST.

[@ronniekregar3482]

Lol, that POS was never shining to begin with.

[@richardfarmer6570]

I remember walking into Best Buy and buying that exact GTX 1070 for $500, seemed like a fortune at the time.

[@MrGamelover23]

It IS a fortune, the idea that anything but the highest end GPUs being 500 or more is disgusting when CPUs aren't nearly as expensive.

[@technikchaot]

@@MrGamelover23 It is only normal that GPUs are more expensive. Because the GPU brings is own cooling, RAM and Mainboard with it (yes only a graphics related mainboard, but without it wouldn't work). A modern CPU for 250€ paired with 100 € for 32GB of RAM a 50€ Cooler and a 150€ Mainboard is at 550€. But yes not so long ago it was possible to go with a 350€ CPU-RAM-Cooling-Mainboard and 200€ GPU with a case and powersupply for 70€ to a total of 620ish € today not really thinkable. But every price has gone up. Except the RAM but there you wouldn't be happy with 4 GB or 8 GB.

[@Gamevet]

I remember walking into MicroCenter and getting an EVGA GTX 1080 Classified for $519, right after the 1080Ti launched.

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

yeah good times

[@dzgaming1]

Should of got the 1080ti 11gb like I did at micro center for $699 instead in 2017 because I'm still rocking my 1080ti playing Last of Us at 1080p at 60fps no problem on ultra setting with only a couple settings turned down to high. BTW I know the prices are crazy.. I remember when $350 got you the best GPU out.

[@mikedawsonnc]

The 6800XT can easily be tuned to be much more efficient than stock. I have mine running with a 2400MHz cap, memory overclocked and, the card undervolted. It achieves stock performance at less than 200W and barely sees 70C while gaming. I'm sure the 4070 can also be tuned, but I don't think you're going to shave off that much more power from it and still achieve stock performance.

[@EzaneeGires]

Agreed! I undervolt and underclock mine. Works out great. It's also easy to do on the AMD adrenalin software vs geforce experience

[@yenixz6260]

give me your undervolt

[@Wutwut1n1]

Undervolting AMD cards is so obligatory, I can’t believe they even let you run them with stock settings hahaha

[@jakehutchens]

What needs to happen with the VRAM stack moving forward: Professional series->48GB+, 90->24GB, 80->20GB, 70->16GB, 60->12GB, 50->8GB. Entry-level cards have to come in at under $300 and be scaled up from that point.

[@brohvakiindova4452]

In an ideal world a xx50 card would cost $150 - $180 and xx60 cards ~$250, ti ~$320; xx70 cards ~$450, ti~$550 maybe $600; 4080 ~$750, ti ~$850 and 4090 ~$1000, ti ~$1200 Then the Vram as it is right now wouldn't be that outrageous. I say going forward you're right with low end having at least 8GB and xx60 12gb but I'd say (talking NEXT generation not what we have now) the 5070 should have 20GB and 5080 already 24GB, 5090 32GB because there is obviously headspace. In any way 16GB should be the standard for anything of quality. Even 5060 could have a potential 16gb version, given that they put 12gb on the 3060 already. Which would mean we could easily up the minimum entry level to 12GB.

[@ChrisNZXT]

@@brohvakiindova4452*laughs in Bidens America and worldwide mass inflation*

[@ElectroBlade-jm3jl]

NVIDIA wont do that, they want money

[@Cenzurat]

Nah it doesn't work that way, if games are developed with the assumption u got 16 gb, u need 16gb and 24gb with crazy settings and thats what its gonna be till the next console gen ( not refresh). As a proffessional cards already have a shitload of vram but those are not in the consumer line.

[@brohvakiindova4452]

@@Cenzurat Consoles have 16GB of SHARED Ram for the whole system. On a PC you typically have 16 to 32GB of ddr4 or ddr5 ram on TOP of Vram. Then the most popular GPU only has 4GB followed by a GPU with 8GB and third is 4GB again. all with presumably 8 to 16GB system ram. Devs absolutely keep in mind what the average user has, 16GB Vram is enthusiast territory.

[@Magmafire]

The best, cost effective option would be to buy a used 6800xt, or even a 6800, as a drop in solution for an old system based on your results.

[@nathanpose8607]

That's what I did

[@brohvakiindova4452]

@@NeverTakeDisrespect In germany right now you can get RX6800XT for 450€ used. I think it shouldn't be that unrealistic in US too. The issue I have is a brand new 6800XT is 550€ too right now and, frankly put it's not that amazing to save 100€ for the possible hassle. You used to get really great deals on the used market. Now a GPU used for 3+ years is sold 100€ below new price. My gripe is literally the size and power consumption, I know undervolting helps, but you can also undervolt the 4070. The 4070 needs 16GB Vram, then it would be fine. Or it would have to be at least 100€ off. It's all just so incredibly "meh" in my opinion.

[@madhatter6083]

For ultrawide 1080 my 6700xt still completely fine with any new game

[@Protocycle]

@@brohvakiindova4452 yup. if 4070 had at least 16GB, I would upgrade to it (though probably while on sale) right now my battle is: high power consumption (and thus heat. my 6650xt already runs hot enough lol) vs low VRAM :c

[@brohvakiindova4452]

@@Protocycle 12GB would still be fine for my demands right now (and probably a bit longer) it's simply that the price isn't appropriate. I've held onto my gpu for so long, I really don't care all that much anymore. Maybe waiting for full release of this gen AMD will be worth it, maybe they'll anounce super versions again. Maybe price of Nvidia will drop more. All I know is I don't feel excited about upgrading right now.

[@maxwell2288pspgo]

From an American stand point power consumption does not matter. Maybe in the rest of the world sure, but you not being able to upgrade because of a power supply is ridiculous man. Your wattage numbers are super inflated. I get 300 watts on my rx 6800 xt when I max the power slider and overclock my gpu to its edge. I usual keep it just above stock with the vram maxed and have fast timings with a decent undervolt and get close to the top performance the gpu can do at 220-230 watts. Besides that most power supplies that have a 8pin connector have at least two. I feel like KZbinrs push this power consumption narrative only when AMD is worse than NVIDIA. Look at the 3000 series pretty bad power consumption compared to AMD, but pretty much no one was saying oh go with amd since it has better power performance ratios.

[@isaacarndt179]

This guy knows

[@AndrewTJackson]

I've underclocked AND undervolted my 6800XT and it never breached 220W MAXIMUM when I'm running Heaven. It drives the games that I play (at 4K) usually at between 60W to just under 190W. My undervolting settings are: Max Freq = 2400 and Voltage = 1100mV. I'm using the AMD driver package to undervolt.

[@FreeMan4096]

that's just Graphics processor power, not a whole card power.

[@esgehtnichtumnamen]

I got mine even lower. mine runs at 88% voltage, so 1012mV. it would even go to 85%, but from there it gets a bit unstable.

[@distorteduzi]

Why underclock just buy a cheaper gpu at that point for lower clocks and lower power consumption

[@esgehtnichtumnamen]

@@distorteduzi The performance remains the same, only the power consumption/heat development is lower

[@shadowhawk7441]

Mine runs undervolted and overclocked. 2650Mhz at 980mV, +9% power limit. Memory at 2080Mhz Fast Timings

[@lil----lil]

DDR price dropped HUGE. SSD dropped price HUGE. CPU dropped price HUGE. Even Mobos have dropped. Nvidia....what is price dropping? Never heard of it.

[@cameronbosch1213]

Not to mention that the 3070, 3070 Ti, & even the 3080 all don't really have enough vRAM for modern games, as shown by Hardware Unboxed, where the 3070 & 3070 Ti would be beaten EVEN IN RAY-TRACING by the AMD equivalent GPUs! Why? Because the Nvidia GPUs just didn't have enough vRAM to run modern games! And the RTX 3080 _JUST_ scraps by with 10 GB of vRAM. I would imagine by the beginning of 2024 that it will meet the same fate. And of course when they raised the vRAM amount to usable levels, the price rose astronomically!

[@AyySorento]

Just like the 4070 review, this video is an easy like. I love how you are doing the reviews/videos in the context of upgrades and older systems rather than the best of the best. I'd say the market for upgrading a GPU is bigger than buying an entire system. Understanding that area better will help everyone in the long run.

[@FeedMeSalt]

1070 is still in my system. And I'm not gonna drop anymore then 400$ for a replacement. Since my 1070 was 399$ I'm also not gonna upgrade unless it's a straight up X2 in performance. I still manage 144hrtz and fps in every title I care about. I'd honestly buy a used 1070 if my own died before I bought a new card. Hell my 750ti still works today, so I doubt I will need to replace this 1070.

[@craig9365]

too bad inflation will make your dream not come true. $400 then (especially prior to 2020) is not $400 today.

[@christophermullins7163]

In my area it is very very easy to get over 2x 1070 for less than $400.

[@FeedMeSalt]

@@craig9365 dont care, I'll wait until the 40 series is five years old if I have to. And yes I know inflation makes that 400 in 2016 is about 471.95 today. So say 500-550 is where I'm actually willing to go in the future. I'm not a teenager anymore, if it's to much I just won't buy it. I'll buy a ps7 or what ever comes next. I have to many things going on in my life with the current economic situation to justify it. Infact my PC hasn't been turned on in almost 9 months because I'm working and have a fiancee now. Unlike when I built my rig. And given the economy I don't see parents or teenagers doing what I did much anymore. I worked for an entire summer to afford my rig in 2016. If I had to do that again I couldn't. Rent alone would make it impossible.

[@FeedMeSalt]

@@christophermullins7163 what kinda cards we talking. Cus if shipping ain't wild id be interested

[@drunkndwrf]

Still have my 1070 as a backup in case my 3080 goes to shit. Its great how the 10 series cards are still holding up. 1070 1080 and 1080ti are truly well thought out cards.

[@Personalinfo404]

5800x3d and a 3080ti here. I wont be upgrading till the end of the AM5 platform and AM6 is released. getting the top tier of the last gen is what ive always done and seems to make most sense, you get hardware that is still relevant and its at a discount. I just got a 3080ti used for 650 and the 5800x3d is 299. People just arent patient.

[@cozy8397]

I had a 3080 downgraded to a 1080ti but I’m looking to get a 6800xt or 6950xt used for around 450 I miss the performance

[@Personalinfo404]

@@cozy8397 whyd you sell the 3080?

[@cozy8397]

@@Personalinfo404 i got a new job and the only game I ever played when I did have time was legit Minecraft and some indie games on game pass , I have a 3070ti now and it’s been more than fine

[@mikehubble8976]

This is what I do too. Plus you get all the hardware, bios, driver revisions day one. I'll be using my 5950X build till AM6

[@snowmean1]

My biggest take in 6800XT vs 4070 battle is how long it will take for 4070 to become VRAM limited. Despite power consumption and heat 6800XT seems like a better option if you don't plan any upgrades in the upcoming 5 years or so. 4070 most likely will enforce you to lower graphics settings sooner in that use case.

[@mytestbrandkonto3040]

I wait for 4060 Ti, 4050, 4060 and 4060 Ti 16GB results. I do not worry about having less than 16GB at all, but if you do and a 4080 is too expensive, maybe the 4060 Ti 16GB has enough raster performance for your needs. Its power consumption and the card size itself saves tons of headache. For now I like 4070 (Ti) the best. And yeah playing with highest settings is not mandatory but it is expensive. To me those new GPUs are no brainers, I like them a lot.

[@eugenijusdolgovas9278]

Put 6800 XT with 7800x3D and AMD put up similar performance to 4070. Based video.

[@teapouter6109]

@@mytestbrandkonto3040 4060 ti does not have enough raster performance lmao

[@mytestbrandkonto3040]

@@teapouter6109 Let's cut to the chase. PC Games Hardware "Raff" says you can have lots of fun with 25 TFlops performance. Now the 4060 Ti has only 88% of this value, but is over 4 resolutions in 20 games a little faster than an RX 6750 XT (26.81 TFLops). Wait another generation? I don't think so. 😅 He recommends waiting for 16GB version test results. Until then 4060 is launched as well and in June Nvidia releases their brandnew 4050. Raff mentioned though 4060 Ti feels like a 4050 (AD106 DIE, 32 MB L2 Cache though). I like the 4060 Ti Founders Edition a lot. Igor (Igorslab) measured 3.28 Watt idle power consumption and it is both quiet and nice looking. Smash or pass? Smash

[@qkzq]

everyone is forgetting about raytracing and dlss3..

[@Dan-Simms]

I love testing like this with older CPUs.

[@chs_ambs8356]

If you are budget-conscious you can upgrade to an X570 and a 5800X3D for dirt cheap, completely eradicating that CPU bottleneck, and then enable SAM, making that RX 6000 series card even more formidable.

[@SoulRollerFIN]

I upgraded from 1070 to rx6800xt in January and recently upgraded from Intel 8700k to Ryzen 5700G. Definitely a worthy upgrade. Undervolting and power limiting the GPU a little helps keep the power draw down. Was glad to get rid of NVidia. AMD just works so much better for everything I do.

[@santeenl]

5700G is meh if you have a gpu. Get a 5800x next time.

[@SoulRollerFIN]

I need 2 GPUs. 5700G is awesome, especially for the price I paid.

[@hoangnamhl111]

Which PSU are you using bro? Is 650W enough?

[@SoulRollerFIN]

@@hoangnamhl111 650W is plenty.

[@ryzen7428]

for me is the other way around... amd sucks so bad ... blakc screens ... poor drivers.. going back to nvidia soon

[@AlexConnor_]

Main problem with AMD 6800 to 6950XT is a severe lack of stock. Had a really painful time trying to find a decently priced deal with the Starfield bundle, ended up getting super lucky and catching Amazon clearancing their AMD reference 6950XT stock at £519 but that deal sold out in about 2 hours. And there's almost no other stock except XFX 6800XT/6900XT (6950XT sold out) and can still find the MSI 6800 at a decent price but that's it. Used market not much better, lucky to get £50 off the current new prices. Meanwhile 4070 is everywhere with tons of stock and a wide choice of models. AMD has a solid supply of 7900 XT/XTX and 8GB or 12GB cards like the 6600 through 6750XT but almost nothing in between, at least nothing available. Amazon US seems to be same story.

[@Cianwilson49]

I just bought a 6800xt for £450, there were another 18 in stock when I last looked!

[@dudao4163]

One thing that missing in this video is undervolt on AMD card. Very easy to do, cut power consumption by a third while performing pretty much the same. VRAM advantage on AMD cards is also very important. If 4070 is 500 then it totally worth considering. At 600, AMD cards offer more to the table.

[@danperry9293]

another is that, if they showed the performance difference on the 4070 with different CPU's, why didn't they do the same with the AMD cards? Specifically I'm talking about the raytracing section

[@zjanez2868]

jeez that is an amazing card usually you are lucky to get 15% undervolt

[@LikeAGroove]

my undervolted 6800XT doesn't draw more than 180W, @1025mV

[@RobBCactive]

​@@zjanez2868no you can reduce volts and max frequency to stay stable in normal operation, but use more power hungry settings for a gfx intensive game. Have you never looked how far voltage & frequency drops on your CPU with dynamic power management? You're free to tune for power efficiency.

[@zjanez2868]

@@RobBCactive i know how undervolting works im just pointing out that a 33% undervolt without a performance drop is really lucky when you buy a card all you are guaranteed is that it performs up to the advartised spec, anything more depends on your luck with the silicon lottery

[@johntniman]

This is a good comparison. I'm in a little different boat - I upgraded everything around my 1080ti, but haven't found a video card worth upgrading to (at least for the cost/performance I'm looking for) in the last 5+ years. My old card is sitting in a case with a 5600x and 32gb of RAM and a 750w PSU.

[@cimkep8250]

Same here :D

[@craiglortie8483]

i got the 6700 xt and a 4k @ 60fps for @ $700. haven't looked back. i watch video more than i play anymore so it was a no brainer for me. got a 1600 af so i'm sure i have a bottleneck, but that will be the next upgrade next year.

[@craiglortie8483]

@@TrinityLinkq thay would be the way to go if you want high fps and can afford it. i just don't see the need to waste more money on a gpu than i invested in the entire system 3 years ago. i always do upgrades every year or two, so it's always about staying in the mid range for me. :)

[@craiglortie8483]

@@TrinityLinkq for me it's not. i'm older now and 4k is easier on the eyes and running 4k games that have a few settings turned down if fine by me. that and 4k 144hz. and higher are way out of my budget. like i said in the other post, if you have the money and can do it, more power to you. :)

[@justanobody4983]

Well you wont be upgrading your gpu anytime soon. Everyone thinks the value of both amd and nvidia is not great. However, your 5600x and 32gb ddr4 wont be much use if your gonna sit there and wait for another 3 years. Id say upgrade now with the 40 series and be done with it. You dont have to think about any upgrade for 5+ years. I upgraded from 2600 to 5700x and 1660 ti to 4070 (might return for 4060 ti). Id say dont over think it or it might be to late for your 5600x.

[@YAAMW]

16:34 If you're leaving performance on the table regardless of your choice, the don't pick a card with 12GB of VRAM if you only upgrade once in a blue moon. Just go with the 6950 XT even if it means upgrading your PSU along the way.

[@NostalgicMem0ries]

you will pay insane amount for electricity with 6950 xt in years to come. 4070 produces it with twice lower power consumption. and since none of these are 4k gpus and only 3 4 games need 12gb+ vram its not that important. 1440 p is reasonable on last of us, hogwarts and cyberpunk and uses way less vram. not to mention all drama about vram is about ultra settings, hardware unboxed did video about how high and ultra looks almost identical but has insane diference in vram usage.

[@NGreedia]

@@NostalgicMem0riesjust noticed the 6800xt uses 50% more power and 6950xt 67% more than 4070. Also I prefer dual slot card over triple any day. Unless the 6800xt drops to $400, I’m more likely to get a 4070 although I’d more likely wait for 7800xt to see how much power efficiency has improved

[@HardwareAccent]

Amazing! Real life upgrade benchmarks is what is missing online. Perfect benchmarks with 13900/7800x3d are unrealistic for most people.

[@__-fi6xg]

no its not, 7600x would give more fps to the rx cards and much higher 1% lows. CPU 200 bucks, has nearly same performance as 5800x3d.

[@isaacarndt179]

@@__-fi6xgwas just about to offer that info this guy knows

[@HypnoticSuggestion]

Good stuff, different than most tech content on YT. One thing I've noticed recently is ray tracing is getting harder and harder to do well on a 6c/12t, makes me wonder how much longer these chips will be useful. Now I can't figure out what to do, with a 11600k, I could drop in a 11700k for 250 new, sell the i5 and recoup half, or do the whole platform which will need new memory. I feel compelled to wait it out and see what's next from Intel/AMD.

[@RobBCactive]

Few gamers keep ray tracing on, if you think super expensive GPUs which then don't have the VRAM to ray trace efficiently is going to change things think again. The 4060 series is actually already suffering from this problem and it will get worse, just as it has comparatively for RTX 30 series, except the 3060 which late in development had the VRAM doubled from the planned 6GB to compete better with RX 6700xt. Most people cannot afford to blow $600 on a GPU, it's the 60 downwards that sell most.

[@iLLmaticV3]

I got the 6700 XT expecting to upgrade in a year or two, but this thing handles everything I throw at it. So, until something major drops n I can’t run it on High settings I might as well hold onto it for now🤣

[@memoli801]

I am an owner of the XFX 6800xt and I am very satisfied with its performance and software, which equals or surpasses the NV equivalent (3080/4070). I must though, even as AMD fan say, RTX4070 has become very attractive after its first price drop. And as a new buyer, I would have considered to buy that instead if really in need of a new GPU. Also be clear with your self, in 2 years you will feel the bottleneck or planned obsolescence of this product. Besides, you encourage NVidia with this to continue. Lets take another look then at the new 4070 and the "old" 6800xt ;-)

[@brohvakiindova4452]

True, if the price was a bit closer to 500€ the 4070 would be fine. WQHD it will probably be fine for at least 3 years with some exceptions of course. I'm expecting the 4060ti 16GB to fill the price slot of 500€ though. It's honestly infuriating why the 4070 didn't get 16GB, would have been almost worth the 600€ right now with that. I really really hope we see some good deals in the near future. It's not as bad as it used to but our perception has been shifted by horrendous pricing. I set my RTX2070 with 400€ as a reference, considering it's been 4 years almost, every option on the market looks so "meh".

[@katatista]

@@brohvakiindova44524070 is like 700 right now

[@ShaiyaSin1]

I've updated my old RTX 3060 Ti to a RTX 4070, on a z590 mobo. It runs better, and I am very surprised how well lows the temps are when playing. So worth it.

[@corndog9482]

both the 6700 XT (12GB) and 2080 Ti (11GB) can be found for $300. The 6700 XT can be found more readily at that price, the 2080 Ti will take a little more patience and careful searching to find for $300. But they're easy enough to find that both my brother and I found non-blower versions for $300 free shipping. I'd say those cards are balanced and powerful enough that it would be a good option for 1080p hi-refresh rate to 1440p gaming on the cheap, until better options come along. Depending on the performance of the 4060 Ti 16gb, that card at < $300 used might be a good option as well. We'll have to see how it performs with the quality and resolution cranked up to see how they scale compared to each other the higher the resolution goes with RT enabled, because it may very well be faster than the 2080 Ti at 1080p, but may start losing to it going up from there. We'll see.

[@pranze3484]

I play all games I care about at 3440x1440 100 to 144fps with a 6700XT, there's 0 reason to upgrade right now

[@TheRealSkeletor]

In that price range I would look for a 6750 XT, which is just the better (and slightly newer) version of the 6700 XT.

[@AxiomofDiscord]

It is what I am running but I just have two and primary game on one 1080p 60hz monitor. So yeah its actually rather overkill for any game I currently play. Xbox Emulation is the only thing I really want that is a struggle but that might be the emulators shortcomings not my computer's.

[@TheRealSkeletor]

@@AxiomofDiscord Emulators tend to be more CPU bound than GPU.

[@corndog9482]

@@TheRealSkeletor oh yeah. that one is right in there as well. Great card for the price.

[@adubington]

As an i9-9900k owner this is the exact video I’ve been looking for. Much appreciated

[@memoli801]

This kind of perf. bench makes more sense to me. It will never happen that you will own the top product and even if so, for just 3 months, maybe. It is only good for once to see monster CPU with monster GPU paired just to see what is possible, but that's it. We upgrade more often GPU, so show us the performance for a mid-system for god’s sake. If there is really a CPU limit it will hit us as well(maybe earlier), and we know it does not make sense to upgrade anyway.

[@sheepstardetail]

Me to! I have access to a used 1080ti for next to nothing and it have been contemplating what to do as I have a 4K monitor for photo editing purposes. A newer card with DLSS or FSR would help greatly with gaming, but I hardly game anymore so the 1080ti paired with my 8700k looks like a great choice for the $100 it’ll cost me.

[@theguycanfly98]

@Hardware Canucks Amd is dropping a driver update this month that features a software scheduler, I'm interested to know if this will change your results at all. You can download a beta of it right now but I want to wait for the full release as the beta doesn't have all the adrenaline features.

[@raresmacovei8382]

My card, RX 5700 XT, is normally a 225W TDP GPU. In most modern DX12/Vulkan titles, with a very mild undervolt, I'm averaging 140-180W. TDP usage is exagerated nowadays, when everyone should be running undervolted anyway. The insane TDP's is when you overclock and increase voltage at the same time.

[@Andytlp]

Yeah drop 50-100mv on that 6800xt and it'll sip 60-80w less and have same performance. Can drop clocks too for less power draw but perf will take a hit.

[@d.ink3d]

got my 6800xt running at only .920 mv @2100mhz, that cut the power draw almost in half and performance hit is minimal around 10% @@Andytlp

[@PaulLemars01]

Just an FYI as of today. It seems the average eBay price of a second hand RX 6800XT is around $400. Edit: Bought a PowerColor Red Devil for $405 last week and hoo boy, it blows the doors off my old RTX3060.

[@edisyo]

This kind of testing is very nice and informative. Specially when older cards are added too. I like how latest gen CPU’s were included too to see the difference. Would be very nice if you could include productivity app’s benchmarks too like Blender for example.

[@K31TH3R]

Recently picked up a PowerColor Liquid Devil 6800 XT for $416, $459 after shipping/tax. I am blown away by how good it is. With an OC/UV to 2600MHz @ 1070mV it is usually +/- 5% versus the 4070 depending on the game, but in Starfield it's closer to a 4080 than a 4070. With an UC/UV to 2150MHz @ 850mV it's still fast enough to run most games I play at locked 4K60, and at those settings it hovers around 36-40C and only draws 120-140W. The card is really flexible with how you can run it, and it can either be fast and hot, or absurdly efficient and cool. RT performance is only downside about the card, it's basically 3060 Ti RT performance. However, AMD just released FSR3 with frame generation, and it's actually not crap, which was surprising. Can't wait to see what it does for RT performance once it gets more game support. If your budget for a GPU is $400-$450, you should strongly be considering a 6800 XT.

[@shadowhawk7441]

Might be able to tune that further! Mine runs 2650Mhz / 980mV. 2080Mhz Memory Fast Timings and +9% power limit.

[@niellawrencegalang2694]

thumbs up! I'm still using my i7-9700 and looking for a content/topic like this.

[@avoxxtea]

Just got a 6800 today and OMG it runs every game at 2k and VR at 4k FLAWLESS! 120FPS in VR and 60+ fps in any other game in my library at MAX settings. Truly GREAT. its paired with a R7 5700G

[@JRFKSERRANO]

I never plan on getting a 4070, it was a free upgrade from my 6700xt. Had RMA mine and it was phase out so Store offered a replacement. One thing that 4070 excels is power draw and temps. For someone who loves SFF, it is godsend. With an undervolt, you can run it at 120-135w with 3080/6800xt like performance which is insane.

[@watersa77]

This video was for me. My 2017 GTX 1080 PC was in need of some love. Despite still being able to handle 1080p ultra like a boss, so technically there was no need to upgrade even after all this time, but I was ready to move into 4k. Well, I didn’t have the budget for an entirely new PC so I decided to take a stab at just upgrading the GPU and then maybe next year upgrade the rest. I went with the 7900 XTX even though it was probably overkill for my 6 year old system but I wanted to be future-proof. (Thankfully I had the foresight to get an 850 watt PS 6 years ago 😅.) To my surprise, I saw tremendous improvements in FPS and I’m now playing games like Hogwarts Legacy In 4k at 60fps even with my 2017 core i7 CPU. In fact, according to afterburner, my CPU is still only about 50% utilized! So yeah, I definitely made the right decision. I can confirm what HC is saying is true. If you’ve got an older PC, go for the best GPU you can afford now and you’ll still see tremendous gains, and then upgrade the rest later. Just think, I was about to give up on PC gaming altogether because I thought I had to spend $2000 for a new machine. Nope. And now I can look forward to fully unlocking the potential of my 7900 monster. But for now, he’s doing just fine and I’ve finally entered the realm of 4k and it is glorious!

[@brohvakiindova4452]

Little heads up that your CPU running at 50% doesn't mean anything while gaming. Games can hardly ever utilize all cores, which sometimes means you have funky situations where your CPU runs at 20% load but actually one core is completely maxed out and others run almost idle. You will definitely see improvements with a better CPU but 4k is still very GPU limited so the improvements won't be impressive. Upgrading little by little is definitely not a bad idea. My next build will absolutely recycle my GPU, SSDs and PSU, most likely whole case setup too. Basically I'm switching out Mobo, CPU and Ram and get a new SSD for the system because I'm not risking failure.

[@sorenvitarelli]

This was a great video, especially the section showing potential upgrade performance for old systems. I would love an entire video comparing how old CPUs compare against new ones in modern games at 1440p to see if the reasoning behind only using 1080p to review CPUS holds up.

[@mads-money8822]

My 5700xt red devil and 4790k is still chugging along nicely

[@JamesGREEK26]

Man i have a 9700k looking to upgrade. This video feels like it was made for me :P Great content! The 6800XT is 150€ cheaper than the 4070 in my country. So i think the 6800XT wins in my specific case.

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

wait for gen14 in oct

[@ZhungyiChan]

Great content! But the title was very confusing. I had no idea what the video was about but I’m glad I clicked on it

[@LadyVashj86woa]

Hi there, the 4070 is about 900 € and the 6800 XT is 419 € in Germany. I'll built a new pc system with the 6800 XT, because I am on a tight budget and the whole system will cost about 1000 €.

[@marcgallant5270]

I never see power numbers that high on my ASRock 6800 XT phantom gaming. 90% of the time it's in between 180-230w and at times(rarely) around 250w, something seems off on that chart.

[@season161]

Thats because when you use software like Afterburner, you only see the GPU core power draw and not the total power draw because AMD GPU didnt reported the TBP (total board power) on software

[@maxwell2288pspgo]

Except I use AMD Adrenaline Software and i also don’t get 300watt power draw. At most at stock I get a 250 watt. I also undervolt my rx 6800 xt and usual sit at a 220-230 watt draw at the same performance. I don’t expect everyone to undervolt, but 300 watt is overclocked wattage.

[@kevin1smid]

@@maxwell2288pspgo I run at 80% max clockspeed: resulting in 165w ish powerdraw for still very great performance

[@marcgallant5270]

@@season161 Don't need afterburner with AMD, I use the built in adrenaline feature it's really really nice" CTRL+SHIFT+O" open closes anytime.

[@DMS_134]

​​@@maxwell2288pspgo It doesn't matter which software you use, the sensor is the same. Only in RDNA 3, the software power consumption is accurate (TBP). In all other Radeon GPUs? Only core power. The review is accurate.

[@PindleofKujata]

I bought a 3070 Ti last year for less than MSRP, and I'm already feeling ripped off by the 6950 XT being the same price now, but so much better in rasterisation. Conversely, this is why I overspecced my CPU by going with a 5800x instead of a 3600 or 5600. I will ride this platform until it breaks or becomes untenable. Looking forward to seeing a 7900 XT for $650 CAD.

[@pranze3484]

just wait for next gen

[@TalooshDaBoss]

5800x is an overspeced cpu? I disagree a lot maybe the 5800x3d is accurate for a top tier last gen gpu like the 6950xt but anything past that just go for intel 12th or 13th gen or zen4 with the right mobo deal/combo

[@longjohn526]

AMD is the one getting ripped off ..... Not only are they selling the 6950 for a near loss they are also cannibalizing their 7800 and 7700 sales so they might not even get a released this year .... While cheap 6950's are good for consumers now in the long run it's going to be bad as AMD becomes less and less competitive with Nvidia and Intel

[@PindleofKujata]

​@@TalooshDaBoss It's not like I'm building a new system. I'm habitually a budget buyer. I already had the AM4 platform with a 3600, which I upgraded to from an i5 4670. It was nothing to buy the 5800x when it was on sale for $400 CAD, then sell the 3600x for $250. I will ride this platform until I am forced to upgrade. 8 cores with a 4.8Ghz boost clock should last a while for my gaming needs.

[@SomeFrenchDude]

You'll never see a 7900XT for $650 CAD. Come on man, are you guys delusional?

[@SIPEROTH]

Adjusted for inflation? Did our salaries got adjusted for inflation? Yeah i thought so.

[@riba2233]

Wrll they should have.

[@dethskullcrusher]

Appreciate the content, not many youtubers have done a review of older hardware as useful as this one, i have an 8700K and where i live the 4070Ti, 4070, RX 6950XT , RX6900XT and RX6800XT where all too close in price to even consider anything but the 4070Ti, it'be interesting to see how much difference is between the 9700 Stock vs OC'd and how much of a difference does DLSS 2/FSR do to the numbers at 1440p and maybe 4k.

[@memoli801]

I have an 8-9years old system i7 5820K and am not planing to upgrade. But even if so, it will never be top tear CPU. So what is the point testing it just for a theoretical value, right?

[@ericwright8592]

So glad I convinced my friend to go with a 6950xt in his new pc

[@Zerrotox]

"Most people using 1080p" not true if you are comparing this cards all the viewers are either 1440p or 4k no one with that amount of money to waste on a GPU would have a 1080p monitor

[@LoneWolfGaming1596]

They're all great cards I won't lie and I do love the delivery of the content. However, I don't think your 6800 XT or 6950 XT were given equal opportunity here. While you did state the reasons for it, using the 13700K for the 4070 is a great shout for testing the hardware with its active equivalent processor, I feel the same should have been done for the AMD cards? As a comparison, the best paired CPU for the 6800 XT from what I have learnt would be a 5800X/X3D. More commonly paired together, significantly different results, and also provides a much fairer testing scenario. For that reason, personally I couldn't say your results are an accurate enough representation for the matter at hand, but please don't let that take away from what you have provided because the insight is still good! Just not as good as I think it should be

[@dirtydoge756]

I have a 6800 XT that I've absolutely overclocked the snot out of, and I've never seen it draw more than 274 watts. It may spike above 300 W, but again I've never seen it. I've had the card since March of last year. Overclocking these cars, outside of just putting them on rage mode, yielded slower and more erratic frame rates and frame times than just leaving it at stock. I don't know if it's the power delivery system, or lack thereof, limitations in the silicon, or limitations in the bios at that point, but back to my original point: in a very very niche scenario, you MIGHT be able to get a Radeon 6800 XT to hit 300W.

[@MrNelahem]

a 6800XT will certainly hit 300 watts I use to have one. The issue with RDNA 2 is all reporting software doesn't show full power usage. This was fixed in RDNA 3 where you see actual TBP. If you are using GPU Z or afterburner etc on a 6800XT its not showing you full power draw.

[@gikdad]

love what your doing, but, in this case I would prefer to add compare it with amd cpu's like the 5600x

[@pdraggy]

what a well thought out video, I'm actually upgrading a 1070 right now and shocked by the power consumption glad you went into that, it's off the hook! I'm not as cpu poor as that though so I guess just having to get a new PSU isn't bad... though it adds to my budget a little :/.

[@ImScant]

if we're talking about the rx 6800 xt vs rtx 4070, in my oppinion the 6800xt wins. i dont think that a bit better upscaler and less power consumption is worth a 100usd extra.

[@monoPRD]

bruh you did 6800 xt dirty with this one but then again, it is a paid promo

[@ABaumstumpf]

Yeah my 8700K will keep on rocking for a couple more years as GPU prices are still just way too insane. When the GPU alone costs more than the entire rest of the system and the CPU is still more than fast enough - no reason for upgrading any time soon. And in the meantime i had built systems with Zen+, Zen2, Zen3, Intel 10th,12th and 13th gen.... not gonna switch my self.

[@goferlp7011]

I upgraded just yesterday from a 1070ti (1080p) to rx 6800xt (4k) and I'm so happy. The rx 6800xt was second hand but never used due to shipping problems and I paid 400€.

[@dazide767]

I bought one used for 237 eur!!

[@paultovey6508]

What cpu would you recommend for the 6800xt

[@childofosiris]

Great video! I was hesitant to but the 6800xt earlier this year but it looks like I can hold on to it for 2-3 years.

[@Goji_Bear]

2-3 years? That's it?? Ehh.. :/

[@Jonathan-Roden]

1:53 wtf is the 6800XT doing on the next-gen Nvidia Gpu line? It's an early 2021 GPU, not 2023

[@sanderbrouwer91]

The 4070 is a bad choice, cuz raytracing needs 16 vram. The 4070 is just a downgrade vs the 6800xt. 36 fps in cyberpunk is not really playable and it will only get worse.

[@ChadKenova]

Just picked up a 6800xt taichi for $340 open box for a tinker build and im very impressed with the performance for the price. But people need to hurry im sure stocks not lasting much longer with the 6000 cards.

[@KeradSnake]

3:41 I was expecting undervolt your radeon cards, but I think it's understandable why you don't mention it

[@GrizzAxxemann]

My 5600/6800XT has proven to be an absolute MONSTER when compared to the FX8120/RX5704GB combo I was running. Power draw overall has been much lower, too.

[@FreeMan4096]

bulllllllllllllshit. PC with 5600 & 6800XT eats about 100 watts more than PC with FX8120 and 570.

[@GrizzAxxemann]

​@@FreeMan4096 My power bill says different. TDP vs Actual usage, my dude. Still being locked to 1080p72 has the 5600/6800XT pairing barely spooling up in the games I play. Those very same games pushed the 8120/570 to the brink.

[@audenaux6657]

6800XT here cost $400. its overall bunk for the buck.

[@MeantimexD]

Great video! excatly what I was looking for, featuring all the parts I have lol

[@nevernicemeadow]

great detailed video, have my thumbs up. just bought a used 6800XT for 390 bucks to replace my 1080TI. i ve read you can lower voltage to 950mv-1050mv while only slightly reducing core and memory clocks resulting in 10% lower performance for about 30-40% lower power draw

[@tj3495]

Those 1% lows must be because of the system setup and not the gpus, considering OTHER benchmarks 😉 show higher 1% lows on average for the cards with the larger memory buses (HUB). So the onboard L2 cache for the 4070 must be doing it's work here.

[@TheRealSkeletor]

Other benchmarks are probably using a Ryzen CPU, as you should be with 6th generation Radeon cards.

[@Djare915]

@@TheRealSkeletor Yeah so not that viable comparison without sam enabled.

[@TheRealSkeletor]

@@Djare915 Anybody who can enable SAM, should.

[@tj3495]

Or enabling rebar on Intel systems, not sure if 9th Gen is as compatible as 10th Gen and up? 12th and 13th Gen intel with rebar enabled have the same uplift as SAM on ryzen systems

[@lootyy]

His results are way off even comparing with the 3070, not the 4070, so no cache in play, also SAM wouldn't make that big of a difference, as was benchmarked time and time again. Something clowny going on in his setup for sure, good thing he told us we can't compare with other benchmarks because his are somehow special. And in what universe is the 6800xt getting over 100 avg at 1080p ultra RDR2 ? much less at 1440p

[@techluvin7691]

Love your channel 👍🏻

[@niyamimbi1179]

wouldve loved to see those red gpus with the 13700 as well! Thanks for the vid!

[@ImKarl]

6800XT used gpu here in the Philippines is around 380 USD, same with RTX 3080. RTX 4070 is unfortunately $700 brand new. I am actually eyeing for RTX 4070 Ti, but I'll just wait for 2 more years to get it for $400 lol. RTX 2070 with DLSS works well on most games anyway even at 1440p even today. I'd upgrade if it really struggles outputting 60fps in games.

[@stevemoon2136]

If your current GPU works; don't upgrade & don't validate Nvidias strategy to milk you like a miner.

[@36cores]

The 9700 crippled the 6800xt 1% lows. My water cooled 6800xt@2675mhz(SAM) paired with a 5800x and nice overclock is comically fast at 1440p. The 6800xt was the best card of the last generation in my opinion. Power is of no concern, I am actually running my card at 350w.

[@hiimcortana1568]

True. I would have liked him to compare 6950xt with 13700k or at least a zen3 5800x with 3600mhz cl16. 9700k is too slow for those cards.

[@johnrehak]

point is that if you pair both 6950xt and 6800xt with 5800x3D and turn on Smart acces memory, You would get much higher result than with i7 9700k. SAM by it self can give you from 5 to 15% and even more performance especialy in 1% and 0,1% lows. For example my system with 5800x3D, 2x16gb 3600mhz CL16 memory and AORUS 6800 XT: CP 2077 - 1440p Ultra details scores 89,2 fps average and 62.6 fps on minimum. With Smart acces memory turned on its 91,6 fps average and 76,5 fps on minimum. With SAM + overclocking its 101,2 fps average and 80,6 fps minimum. 1440p Ultimate in Horizon Zero Down SAM off: 136fps average, 292fps max, 69fps min. SAM on 159fps average, 306 max, 76 min. SAM on + OC: 165fps average, 310fps max, 83fps min. As You can se turning on Smart acces memory has bigger impact than overclocking it self.

[@Pascie]

The ram is the issue, I've just bought a 6800, nothing Nvidea do could convince me otherwise, not without spending a small fortune. Nvidea are about to divert attention to AI chips so expect another shortage and prices going up for what is a substandard range

[@hassosigbjoernson5738]

It is clear in 2023 it would not be wise to buy a 400+ € GPU with less than 16 Gigs of VRAM. New or used. Hogwarts Legacy and Jedi: Survivor show that even today, also when Raytracing is used. And with Nvidia announcing 4060 Ti with 16 Gigs ... they know that this becomes a problem, too! Seeing the price drops of that RX 6800 none XT as a mid-range option or even a RX 6900/ 6950 XT used/ new as an upper mid-range option, AMD brings solid alternatives to the table.

[@HibiTeamQueso]

This is actually a great video. An upgrade makes much more sense than a full New system

[@fist003]

exactly the video i need. currently on 8086k with 2060. Was thinking of getting the 6950xt, this made me rethink it

[@NootNoot.]

If your buying new, I wouldn't rule out the 4070, its crazy efficient (amazing for SFF builds) and well... next gen, BUT I think we need a second to take a step back. While I don't rule out the conclusions of the video, its important to keep in mind we are comparing the previous gen to the new 40 series. The fact that there are discussions around this topic means the new gen is not competitive enough nor is the price justified. I know this has been echoed a million times, but if u need this for work or are reeaaly scratching for more performance to play video games or wanting to take ur hobbies further then just buy it already geez. Also, I understand, nothing is black and white. If you live in a region with well supplied used cards (and if ur comfortable or done research), go for used. Perf/dollar is better and you'll save a lot of money. If you live in a region where electricity bills have skyrocket go next gen 40/7000 series. Also, I honestly believe garnering any conclusions from 1080p results with this performance tier might as well be seen as an outlier as I don't think justifies it (in the context of not just benchmarking cards head to head to remove bottlenecks to compare performance, because we are using this with 'older' cpus). Unless the game is unoptimized or is needlessly demanding, you are going to get 60+fps even at 1% lows, and setting a limit to that (like with RTSS) you'll rarely see any dips in performance. And if your coming from something like a 2070, and planning to upgrade to one of these cards, unless you have a 1440p+ or 90hz+ display, I'd recommend revaluating your upgrades.

[@betaunknown]

Nicely said. Also not all factors are objective. The mindshare and consumer mindset on AMD vs Nvidia is also a factor.

[@peterr6595]

Gamers forget that some us do actual work on our computers. I write, photoshop and video. I don’t own a single game. I want low power, thus low heat. I limit the GPUs we buy at 200w

[@NootNoot.]

@@peterr6595 And that's why I believe AMD is losing traction against the GPU segment. Nvidia is just better overall, especially with CUDA support. The problem then arises where Nvidia controls the market having the ability to price their cards at a large premium and I believe its in the consumers best interest to want competition. I'm in a similar position to you. Rarely do I play games that demand performance, but need that headroom for applications. Also got into the AI hobby and Nvidia is the *only way to go. Ppl aren't buying GPUs for games anymore

[@betaunknown]

@@peterr6595 Nvidia has realised long ago that the money does not come from the gaming segment anymore. All the gaming gpus are just progressively cut down versions paired with non ecc gddr.

[@Jacob-hl6sn]

AMD gpu's are faster and have more vram than nvidia gpu's at the same cost. I have no interest in nvidia gpu's. I might be interested in Intel gpu's if they get faster.

[@viowithcrailtap]

I've got to be honest. The market at the minute is very overwhelming with how many options and opinions there are. I'm looking to upgrade my whole system. I'm currently using a 4770K with a GTX 1070. I play a mixture of games but recently got back into WoW and it's really bad in built up areas. I'm going to get a 5800X3D cause they seem good and not power hungry like the 13th Gen Intel line up. But GPUs is where it's confusing. As I don't upgrade for years at a time would I be better getting a bigger card with 16gb+ on it? I will be upgrading my PSU cause I've had my current one for 8 years or so. I'd like fully modular and better energy efficiency.

[@markmorrow8o]

I got a 5700x and 6800xt, considering upgrading to a 6950xt and 5800x3d, It would take me far on 240hz 1080p i cant justify upgrading to newer gen and getting new mobo etc

[@TKDWolf]

Check out what your bottleneck is, 6800XT to 6950XT wont help get you more frames if you are CPU limited in 1080p. an AM5 board and a 7700, 32GB of DDR5 6000 would be cheaper than 5800X3D and 6950XT by a lot, but might get you more frames in a lot of stuff if you really want high refresh 1080p

[@ViperDeMLG]

Luckily I got a used 6800xt for about $280, works really well with my 1440p monitor, and it was a big switch from 1080ti plus the adrenalin software is much more convenient and user friendly.

[@metallixro]

I just upped my Ryzen5 2600x/ GTX1080 to a Ryzen 9 5900X(new)/6800XT(used), now in late 2024, after thinking about staying on AM4 or getting a new platform. Im very happy with my decision, both CPU and GPU are a massive performance increase. You can buy a new 5900x for under 250€ (Europe) and its still a really good 12c/24t! 6800XT I paid 280€ used. The reason for the upgrade was the old combo was getting left behind min 60fps at 1440p, and now well its like having a brand new PC that runs everything. For the people that also struggle with making a similar decision, if you have the budget go for AM5, otherwise Im pretty sure this 5900X/6800XT will comfortably let me skip AM5 and wait for AM6 (or whatever crap Intel will have on the market in 2027+). PS. IDGAF about ray tracing.

[@mr.electronx9036]

Im happy with my MSI 4070 so far. Switched from GTX 1080 and keept my 650W power supply and my 10700k is not bottlenecking the gpu, so im glad i've spend ONLY 650 euros. To be honest, im glad i didn't bought the 4090 or RX 7900 XTX. A entire system overhaul only for strong GPU could kill my budget. sry 4 my english

[@Bvllzye]

would the RX 6800 XT do better if it had a AMD CPU to enable Smart Access Memory?

[@JMsurYT]

Great comparison actually helpful for people buying now. Thanks a lot !

[@lucidlydreaming999]

I still have my GTX 1070 in my system. Everything else has been upgraded but it's about time for me power up the graphics card. Been thinking about swapping to team red for a while now.

[@taomahNEGEV]

I'd stick to 4070.

[@CVNTGETENOUGH]

Definitely grabbing the 4070 now. FPS per watt is priority right now. Thank you!

[@Northkalman]

Ive got a 6800xt from MSI for almost a year now and undervolted it. Playing everything in 1440p max settings and never seen the card run beyond 230watts. Highest Ive swen it was playing Ghost of Tsushima was about 210-230watts. On games locked at 60fps it does not even go beyond 130watts

[@Daniel-l8m4r]

Just bought with starfield bundle. Very happy so far, love the 16 GB Vram

[@Viking8888]

With my AMD R7 5800x, I've been stuck on a RTX 2070 Super for much longer than I was hoping. This was a nice look at what I can expect when I am able to do a drop in replacement of that card. But as my main desire is to get as much performance and fluidity from Flight SIm 2020 in VR, I feel like I need to save save and save some more so I can go balls to wall. That means an RTX 4090 at this point in time, but boy that price is a wallet destroyer.

[@TheRealSkeletor]

If you get a good deal on a 6950 XT, be sure to enable SAM (above 4G decoding) in your BIOS, as you'll get a little extra free performance from comboing that with your 5800X.

[@panadatm]

Don't sleep on the 6950 for VR, it performs pretty well on my Reverb, honestly the 4090 just isnt worth the 3x price. If you want maxed out MFS I think its smarter to buy a mid range card right now and wait until we get truly amazing vr performance for around 1k

[@Viking8888]

@@panadatm I hear what you are saying, which is good advice, but it takes me years to save for anything, so I have to get something I know will go the distance because I have no idea when I'll have enough money for another upgrade. I landed up going with AM4 in the middle of last year (knowing AM5 was coming out fairly soon) because the cost was too good to say no too. Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Hero mobo for $130 and at the time the 5800X for $300 sealed (It was selling new for nearly $400). Both parts were from a couple of fellows on OfferUp. I'm just waiting patiently (one day and not patiently the next) to see how things play out price wise with AMD and Nvidia's cards.

[@Viking8888]

@@TheRealSkeletor Thx for mentioning that. Unfortunately, I can't use ReBAR with my RTX 2070 Super which sucks, but that is definitely something I will enable with whatever GPU I do land up getting.

[@TheHightier]

im in a simular boat im still rocking the 1070 ti, and i cant quite find a suitable replacement 650$ for a 4070 is a bit too expensive, when i got the 1070 ti i only had to play 500 for it

[@Uthleber]

why is in the power comp the 6800 xt listed for 2023 ?

[@GoodBoyDanny]

bro I just got this card from best buy for $200 bucks, they gave me starfield and bought the i3 13th gen cpu with some ddr5 ram for $150 and I can basically play all games on ultra.

[@therinwhitten]

This sounds weird. Meanwhile, 12 pin power connector keeps burning on alot of Nvidia GPUS...

[@hyperkid21]

thank you for this type of video. hopefully you also look into the 4570 when the 4060 is released

[@GentlyUsedFrog]

At one point I managed to undervolt my 6800 XT and it was around 200 to 220W MAX. So with a good undervolt... No need to be afraid of the consumption.

[@memoli801]

How much Voltage?

[@GentlyUsedFrog]

@@memoli801 I vividly remember playing GTA V and RDR2 online at that time which were the only games that didn't behave well with my undervolt (1050mV and down) so I had to create separate profiles for them, but I don't remember the exact voltage. Probably between 1000 and 1030mV. I need to try again soon.

[@GentlyUsedFrog]

@@memoli801 Just searched a bit on how to undervolt it again and see if there was new tutorials, on a 4 months old vid I saw a guy saying he put 900mV and 2000mhz to the core. Seemed weird to me but after trying it on a few games I can say it works very well. I'm certain some games won't like it at all but haven't found any so far.

[@Dobermanator]

Like saying don't upgrade that Pruis to a Lambo, you'll use more gas, and insurance will cost more. People wanting an upgrade by buying a whole new build has to pay attention to the things that matter, who ever said that the upgraders don't? Don't want to burn another light bulb then stay out of the upgrade cupboard. The 4070 is gimped, of course it's only 200 watts (like a Prius) why would it not be cheaper? That's the problem here.

[@PiratesK1999]

Is it good to buy Rx6900Xt for 300 USD? I want to pair it with core i5 12400f ?

[@bremsberg]

300$ is a steal for 6900xt tbh

[@sgtjarhead99]

I recently upgraded to a new build from my old PC and went with the 6800xt because of the price point. Put the extra $100 towards more memory.

[@MrMunkyMeat]

If you really wanted to report on "Power Consumption" then you would put the results of the GT 710 up there. But you know it would discourage people from buying the 4XXX series. I get sooo many chunks in minecraft with the beast that the GT 710 is.

[@brkbtjunkie]

A fair comparison would be flops per watt, in which the 4000 series absolutely crushes the 710.

[@Oleg_Semashko]

Okay, so 6800XT is older, cheaper, has more vram and still better then new nvidias🤣

[@marcinkarpiuk7797]

he also use it on system that cant use SAM so like 10% slower...

[@Oleg_Semashko]

@@marcinkarpiuk7797 exactly