Ryan McBeth - It's 1941 and Dictators are Waging a Mass War in Europe Against the Idea of Democracy.

Ryan McBeth is an influential KZbinr, Author, triathlete, Army veteran and programmer. Ryan makes educational and OSINT videos, that look at the war in Ukraine from a military perspective. Today we’ll be talking about the two side’s strategies in the war, tactics, equipment, morale, and training.
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CHAPTERS:
00:02:06 From a strategic level North Korea finally has something that Russia wants.
00:07:12 I don't know why the US has manufactured these de-escalatory red lines.
00:08:56 What if they go nuclear? Putin will be dead. That’s not an outcome he wants.
00:11:10 We haven't mentally prepared our populations for fact we're already in WWIII.
00:13:19 Russia is basically a bully that owns a gas station. A mafia run gas station.
00:16:53 One of the issues is that there aren't necessarily enough weapons to give.
00:19:54 At some point you need to mobilise - the bodies to pull the triggers of guns.
00:24:53 I’m of opinion that either candidate is going to be ok when it comes to Ukraine.
00:27:25 Some are rearming. Poland's going to have largest land army in Europe soon.
00:33:35 We may just have more footage of Russian war crimes - executions of POWs.
00:36:06 Russians bombarded with patriotic propaganda and stories of WWII sacrifices.
00:40:02 Even though US supplying weapons we're still collaborating on spaceflight.
00:42:29 If it were a real issue, the US would revoke security clearance of Elon Musk.
00:44:22 Artillery would help Ukraine a lot. Long range weapon systems and the F-16.
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[@junahn1907]

The argument that Russia needs a buffer zone of client states to "be safe" is such a specious one. There are literally dozens of countries in Europe alone that share "indefensible" borders that don't fear for their safety because they aren't expansionary assholes. Russia could join that community and would be welcomed if only it could decide to stop exporting violence and dysfunction. Doing so would lead to actual prosperity for average Russians in a meaningful way for the first time in its history. But they appear temperamentally incapable of helping themselves. They see the world as zero sum and are committed to producing nothing of value.

[@rockbutcher]

They were happy with the Iron Curtain for decades. What changed?

[@MelGibsonMovie]

@@rockbutcherEastern Europeans said enough and ussr fell. Now they want ussr back. Problem is, most Eastern Europeans don't and russia wants to use force. they're brutal to Ukrainians, can you imagine what they'd do others?

[@rockbutcher]

@@MelGibsonMovie I clearly understand what Russia wants and what they are currently doing in Ukraine. My point was that they used to be happy sitting behind a fence with anti personnel and anti tank mines along it. Now they claim they want the Atlantic as a 'buffer zone." Many years ago, I trained as an Infantryman to defend the Fulda Gap against a Soviet invasion of Europe. Once the wall fell, I got a new job and actually worked with Russian scientists and thought, these guys are ok, why were we worrying? Then Putin came along. I told my wife, this man will start WWIII. I wasn't wrong. Now I hate them all over again. I was wrong in the middle.

[@maronily]

Obama is to blame. He told Putin that Russia is not a superpower, but at best a regional power. That hurt Putin very much. Since then, he has wanted to show it to everyone. (But he has the 4 inch willie problem).

[@WillFinch-k4j]

You have clearly stated my arguments. Russia could be among the richest most developed economies on the planet. Instead we have this mentality of threat and conquest harkening back to the thirteenth century little updated except for the technology. Russia was under no threat from Europeans as they collected billions every day. The biggest problem seemed to be how could the politicians and oligarchs steal everything without the populace getting involved. What could possibly change short of a massive defeat and revolution?

[@EEX97623]

On populations being aware and ready - it’s Poland, Nordics and Baltics. Not sure where the idea only Poland and Sweden have taken measures… the Nordics work as one, as do the Baltics, and there’s historic levels of Nordic-Baltic cooperation and coordination outside NATO on defence, security, emergency reponse, intelligence, education, media literacy, production, economics, tech, cyber etc. We live next to russia and are well ahead on understanding our neighbour 😂 Greetings from Estonia.

[@scottyboy60098]

I admire the Estonians, Latvians and Lithuanians for standing up for freedom! They understand the issues associated with Russia

[@oldowleye3161]

@@scottyboy60098… west also does understand - the thing is that we are totaly decadend we won’t even fight for a meal - even less for moral values !…o let these border countries to bear all the wait of defending freedom - in terms of moral misery we are at the same level as russia

[@scottyboy60098]

@ I respectfully disagree. We see “ moral misery “ virtually through social media and mainstream sources that don’t reflect the deep love for our values.

[@razorsharpness4]

another esonian? i have to buy a lottery ticket.

[@maronily]

Obama is to blame. He told Putin that Russia is not a superpower, but at best a regional power. That hurt Putin very much. Since then, he has wanted to show it to everyone. (But he has the 4 inch willie problem).

[@DarkestAlice]

Thank you, Jonathan and Ryan McBeth, for your conversation. 🇺🇦 Перемоги та миру всім українцям! 🇺🇦

[@gogudelagaze1585]

Awesome! I really enjoy hearing Ryan outside the context of his usual videos, which are so focused that they leave much unexplored.

[@scottyboy60098]

Ryan is a refreshing treasure. “Russia is a Mafia gas station!” Fighting misinformation in the trenches for us.

[@AkenValle]

He is overweight joke

[@tevoneydawkins4675]

And America isn’t?

[@scottyboy60098]

@ Yes, we need to fight misinformation. Question sources, especially if ones first reaction to information is anger.

[@F11ch]

you have to be a bot, you can't be real wtf😆

[@Tfujis]

“Basically a bully that owns a gas station”

[@KTOMbI]

And has broken into nukes plant

[@luisbustamante9869]

Against a bully that owns 800 military bases across the world. Not very fair is it?

[@batchint]

imagine what the flair for that… 😢

[@fungo6631]

@@luisbustamante9869 Have your 50 RMB cents, wumao

[@TuskForce]

​@@luisbustamante9869 you can also just not be a bully? They have nukes, they could have just maintained peace and gotten closer to Europe Russia has been too complacent and corrupt with its industries and now it's biting them hard

[@squireson]

The draft thing is a cultural thing, The fighters in Ukraine have been older because in their culture , the middle-aged fight so the young can have families and get a little established before joining the fight. Their armed forces have _always_ had a much older mean age than something we are used to in the U.S.

[@andersgrassman6583]

The thing is, if Ukraine looses their young men before they have children, winning the war geographically and politically won't help, because the population will collapse. Lowering the conscription age from 27 to 25 was a big thing, and I definately understand why. Besides, are really 18 tear old kids that much better fighting, than 25-30 year olds? I seriously doubt it. (My physical trainer in the Swedish military, was a 70 (!) year "old" former fighterpilot. He beat the shit out of us 18-20 year old conscripts in performance. It was stunning, and quite embarrassing. But he put me in astonishing shape in just 6 weeks or so!)

[@Ganiscol]

@@andersgrassman6583 that's all BS, contradicted by history. And of course young men are better fighters because they are more resilient than older men - my goodness, dont you know anything about aging?

[@baneofbanes]

It’s also because they have a smaller young population and they’re trying to avoid fucking over the nations demographics.

[@baneofbanes]

@@Ganiscolexcept it’s not contradicted by history. The demographics of the former Soviet Union are still dealing with the effects of the Nazi invasion in WW2 which killed a significant number of young men before they ever had children.

[@andersgrassman6583]

@@Ganiscol Physically, men are actually at their strongest around 30 years of age. Skeleton and muscles are at the peak at that age. I'm 61 now, but thinking back, I don't think I was more capable in just about any physical or mental respect, when I was 18, compared to when I was 25-30. In fact,young men tend to have an unrealistic sense of unvunerability, that puts them in a lot of dangerous situations. Just consider the way 18 year old men drive in traffic, compared to 25 or older. There is a reason insurance companies charge extra before age 25, at least in Sweden. I'm guessing - just guessing - a lot of 18 year olds get themselves killed in war at an unnecessary rate. General Patton once sayed something like 'most people getting killed in action, behave stupid'. (He had to give an official excuse for having sayed that.) Now that's a rather extreme thing to say, but as an indication, there might be some truth to it. But in Ukraine, most soldiers are killed or wounded by artillery fire. I don't se how they can do much about that, on an individual basis. In fact, that might actually be, because they are skilled at avoiding the alternatives?! Just speculation. But Ukranian soldiers seem to be very skilled on average. I don't see how the Ukrainian army would have lasted so long, if they weren't?! (Soldiers are always at their greatest risk in the beginning of their service in combat, a well known fact.)

[@WhiskyCanuck]

People who point to Ukraine not drafting under 25 year olds as not "doing enough" are forgetting that Ukraine - like most former Soviet republics - is facing a demographic crisis as well. Not enough young people. Their demographic pyramid is already too narrow towards the bottom of it. So trying to avoid sending younger people to the front in a war does make sense.

[@AkenValle]

You don't say. And you still expect them to fight to the last man

[@cliffc2546]

Yet starting a family in a war zone is also unappealing.

[@Mulligatawney]

Narrowly, this is understandable, but I've never heard of a country that has won a war while being unwilling to lose their young men, absent a massive technological advantage - which Ukraine does not have. Russia is putting its demographic future on the line; is Ukraine willing to follow suit?

[@AkenValle]

@Mulligatawney Russia is not throwing anything silly bit

[@donnievance1942]

@@Mulligatawney Ukraine aspires to avoid the stupidity of the Russians. Putin is totally happy to destroy Russia's demographic future because he won't be around to see the results. Ukrainian leadership actually cares about the future of Ukraine.

[@TKMcClone]

Happy to see Ryan on the channel again!

[@Tim58167]

Excellent Stream ,thanks ,Jonathan and Ryan.

[@alanwatts5445]

I love the way Ryan is willing to say "I don't know" when something is outside his area of expertise. Lot's of other people would speculate or make something up.

[@cherienafo7676]

Thankyou Jonathan for having the much appreciated Ryan McBeth to speak to us. Cheers from Australia.

[@dethtongue945]

I'm glad someone else thought of the Flying Tigers. If Putin can use a mercenary army why can't someone else. A hundred pilots flying F-16s with fully staffed ground crews basing out of Poland could probably lock down the front line within six months, and start helping push them back inside of a year.

[@ggttthyyyht7796]

There’s a lot of weather soldiers volunteering to help Ukraine. Why is it o much worse if ‘malnourished/weak’ North Korean soldiers are fighting?

[@dethtongue945]

@@ggttthyyyht7796 Its worse because North Korea is a separate sovereign nation which indicates a genuine escalation of the conflict. I don't blame Putin. His own army sucks balls so how much worse can the North Koreans be? P.S. What's a weather soldier? If you mean Western soldiers outside of some observers there are no large numbers of Western troops outside of some volunteer battalions engaged in active fighting, and that was mostly in the first year of the war or so.

[@AkenValle]

And one rocket strike and no more airfield. You people live in your own parallel universe

[@Ganiscol]

@@dethtongue945 with the meager combat range of the F-16, you gonna have to plan for plenty of fuel stops. Ukraine hasnt gotten any of the latest Block 50/52 planes, which is what the US uses for SEAD. Ukraine got Block 15 with a mid life update. And without a successful SEAD campaign, these 100 planes will just be shot down both from the ground and air without achieving anything.

[@dethtongue945]

@@Ganiscol I was assuming that SEAD would be the first task they'd commit to. They can't do anything else until enemy air defences have been suppressed.

[@ihdieselman]

Russia was never on the right side of WW2 and they still aren't. They just never started fighting against the right side directly.

[@stephenlyon1358]

The Russians sacrificed 27 million people to defeat Germany. We owe them more than gratitude.

[@Hemphunter94]

They were ALWAYS fighting on what they saw as their own side for the Soviet regime security, whatever that meant on any given day

[@khovrinian4485]

@@Hemphunter94 They (RUS) formed an alliance with Hitler and split Poland. They would have stayed on the wrong side if Hitler hadn't crossed Stalin. They don't change.

[@jerryjonsson7444]

They did fight the Fins. Purely imperial. And many Swedes went to help the Fins back then.

[@neilwilson5785]

That is way too simple.

[@KW-hk2jd]

You are right, Europe needs to get more prepared to deal with Russia. The UK needs to get more prepared to deal with Russia.

[@jimmiller5600]

Russia already destabilized the UK through Brexit.

[@RangerXXT]

they've been deer in headlights about what's coming......that they can't negotiate some deal doesn't process in their brains....

[@luisbustamante9869]

Rebuild the Nord Stream pipelines sabotaged by US agents? That would help resuscitate their economies devastated by the sanctions against Russia. But that's a pipe dream. Their US boss would'n allow them. They are making a mint selling them expensive sea-borne liquid gas.

[@TonyM540]

The UK economy is stagnant since brexit. It doesn’t have the money to build up its defence. Ireland is the weakest link, it virtually has no defence.

[@ruslankutlukaev2105]

What do you expect from Russia so that it has to be dealt with.?.

[@jimmiekarlsson4458]

This will be a good one! Ryan is a awsome guy.

[@banana_junior_9000]

Ryan. The former president will do all he can to appease Putin. China or otherwise. How do we know that? Because he has expressed disdain for Ukraine and praise for Putin. Has the world already forgotten that there was an impeachment concerning the withholding of aid to Ukraine? We all, including my self, need to keep ourselves in check.

[@charlesk2270]

Putin needs Trump. Not the other way around.

[@golden8378]

Ryan gives off that vibe of a top triathlete. Cigars, whiskey, cigarettes, and 20 hours of riding, swimming, and running. Kudos to you sir. Much respect from a fat, retired AF E-8

[@ruthwolfer4154]

it'a a pitty

[@AkenValle]

Imagine trusting this guy on military stuff.

[@squireson]

doesn't smoke cigarettes

[@issadraco532]

dude is one of the biggest manchildren i have ever seen. tries so hard to make himself look cool and interesting and mysterious. even to the point of intentionally going against everyone else and pushing garbage that is the opposite of reality just to feel like a special snowflake. that's why he gets half of everything that he covers totally wrong.

[@GhostlyBG]

@@AkenValle anyone better to trust on military stuff? I've not come across tbh...

[@UkemeIdiong]

Johnthon u have been working overtime with the best speakers and amazing content. Love u and ryan spreading the true gospel. I am a proud 🇺🇲🇺🇲 but the west needs to wake and stop being scared of bullies.

[@Hawk006]

Don’t forget that the US is not alone in supporting our Asia-Pacific partners. There’s Australia, New Zealand, Japan, South Korea, to name a few, and they should be quite capable militarily should the need arise. I’ll take Western war technology over Chinese technology anytime.

[@squireson]

Applying the flying tigers concept to ground and maintenance personnel would be pretty darned useful too. Getting the maintenance of an F-16 right and fast takes a lot of training and being able to drop that into place would be fantastic.

[@AkenValle]

From what bases?

[@squireson]

@@AkenValle From which American bases or which Ukrainian bases ? Since the tigers program would be voluntary, the American bases that would suffer personnel shortages would be determined by those servicemen that chose to volunteer. With respect to the Ukrainian bases, whichever ones they are operating. Or was that supposed to be some sort of instant shut down question?

[@AkenValle]

@@squireson Do you people have common sense?

[@baneofbanes]

@@AkenValledo you?

[@aaronmlller8150]

God, this is the episode I didnt know I needed. Super excited for this one! 🔥

[@fourthchute]

Thank you Johnathan and Ryan!

[@aleue]

In WW2 the USA fraught both in Europe and in the Pacific. With 15 million people in uniform, over 100 aircraft carriers, landing craft that filled the horizon. Liberty ships produced in shipyards that are gone now, tank production in the 10s of thousands, aircraft production of over a hundred thousand, oil production that supplied every allied force. And after all that, they still fought in Europe first, and the Pacific was a second priority.

[@ricardas16]

ww2 pulled usa out of economic depression and made usa a world power

[@sparks1792]

Europe was more important at the time not now

[@seanlander9321]

Only Australia turned up, additionally it was the only country that provided America with more in Reverse Lend Lease than it received in Lend Lease while at the same time provided a staggering amount of aid to Britain. But face reality, helping the Europeans is a thankless task for a thankless people.

[@aleue]

@seanlander9321 Australia had an outsized impact on the conflict when considering their economy and population. Canada was up there as well. Yes Europe takes it's liberties for granted and they in general do not have as many property and individual rights. This could be why.

[@seanlander9321]

@ Canada didn’t turn up for the Pacific War though and it only got going in Europe above brigade strength in late 1943. Notably absent from the North African campaign too and couldn’t be bothered with any occupation forces , whereas Australia occupied a third of Japan until 1953 and had the burden of paying for Britain to join in.

[@PaulLefebvre]

Without having seen the whole video yet, it feels like this discussion misses the fact that one of the factors making Ukrainians less willing to join is the fact that the US keeps tying their hands behind their back. In order to protect American cities, the Ukrainians are being asked to do things the US would NEVER subject their own soldiers to. No air superiority, no protection while being asked to advance through minefields bigger than anything the US has faced, insufficient numbers of armored vehicles, and most importantly of all, rules of engagement that prohibit Ukraine from destroying targets deep inside Russia, forcing the troops to just be speedbumps to Russian air bombing campaigns with those glide bombs. The US is literally STOPPING Ukrainians from hitting the airfields that are harboring the planes being used to grind Ukrainian cities into dust. And then people wonder why more Ukrainians aren't willing to join? How much support have they received in recent months, while the US has been distracted with an election?

[@PaulLefebvre]

Finished the video and Ryan DID bring up that the US isn't sending enough. And brings up the limitations about striking deeper into Russia. I feel like the opportunity was still missed to make a clear connection between those limitations (and insufficient volumes of equipment) and difficulties in recruiting.

[@ggttthyyyht7796]

Ukraine has received more USD than the Soviet Union did for the Lend-lease agreement of ww2 (adjusted for inflation)…

[@dannydetonator]

@ggttthyyyht7796 Without even looking it up, i call BS on the order of magnitude. Nearly all "USD" that has been donated to Ukraine comes from Europe. All the equipment put togeather Ukraine has received is an order of magnitude less than USSR received in WW2 and multiple times less than requested and necessary, just stop the hogwash.

[@jerrymiller9039]

The US is not asking Ukraine to do anything. Ukraine is asking the US for aid. As for dangerous conditions, the US military has fought under a much larger range of conditions across the globe

[@PaulLefebvre]

@jerrymiller9039 Not like the conditions in Ukraine right now. Even Ryan admits it in the video. The US doesn't send troops in until they've established air superiority (ie. Iraq 1, Iraq 2, etc.).

[@sherrillwhately7586]

I think Ryan is delusional on Trump. I see him setting up a scenario like our withdrawal from Afghanistan 🇦🇫, because Abdul was such a great guy at Doha.

[@chrisj4236]

"It was so clean and safe..."

[@gorkyd7912]

The scenario will be more like this: the US will rapidly and consequentially escalate the war unless Russia immediately agrees to a peace plan. The US will launch a massive sanctions campaign against any country that does business with Russia, including China, to bankrupt Russia. The US may even threaten to begin direct material support of insurgents within Russia who are growing restive. The US will launch an information war in Russia so the people see the failures of the war and begin growing discontent with leadership. However, the peace plan would likely include giving up some land in Eastern Ukraine that is under Russia's current control which allows Putin to save face with his people and stay in power, otherwise the only way to achieve a peace deal would be actual regime change in Russia that could lead to a less stable region in general.

[@Hemphunter94]

The Olympic level of rhetorically spinning to avoid acknowledging of how deeply trump and putin-pilled Elon is raises my eyebrow

[@gorkyd7912]

Elon doesn't want nuclear war. Simple as that.

[@memonk11]

Because he's a Trumpster.

[@andyinmotion6877]

He’s not a Trumpster. He just knows his audience.

[@ADEpoch]

Ryan is good value. I enjoy hearing his take on things, and I learn a lot by his videos, even if I don't always agree with his perspective. Good having him on.

[@jaimepatena7372]

Stalin: "Quantity has a quality of its own." Sure..but if you are the one dying..you are just meat for the grinder.

[@dallastaylor5479]

Yeah, but they know that and will still do it for the money.

[@gerryhouska2859]

That's what livestock is for!

[@MartinLundström-l4v]

Translation of MEAT, to MONEY. Predominantly conquered minorities... - Further fueling the EXITEMENT of continueing EXPANSION of Empire...

[@18_rabbit]

@@dallastaylor5479 yeah, it's many cultures across Ru who not only are poor but r raised without ethics of any type. Western civ has ethics purely bcuz it's where the Renaissance & the Enlightenment took place, and literally gave the world the ability to make progress. It's time to secure that world.

[@thingamabob3902]

Ryan said: WW3 started in 2014 with Crimea ... right ... and you also could say in the same manner WW2 started not on 1.9.1039, it started 1937 with the japanese attack on China, which was supported weakly by the west but largely ignored, I see some similarities. You could also say the annexation of Crimea was similar to the Sudetenland and later Czechia taken from Czechoslovakia by Germany or Bessarabia taken by the Soviets in 1940. What was the West doing at that time ? ... next to nothing .... bowing to dictators .... history repeats itself, with or without nuclear weapons.

[@josephkelly4893]

WW2 started at the end of WW1, and we have never stopped since, just long ceasefires

[@AkenValle]

So why not enlist then?

[@thingamabob3902]

@@AkenValle my health is too bad, and no its not bone spurs ;-) ... though I´m talking about weapon deliveries and actual enforced red lines. I did the thing I could and donated to UA. Are you doing anything to end this conflict ?

[@AkenValle]

@thingamabob3902 classical chickenhawk.

[@thingamabob3902]

@@AkenValle classical trollish bullshit reply

[@Ecomorph1]

Thank you Jonathan and Ryan! Grest vast today. In this Chicago oblast, we can't wait until election day, even if we can't stop holding our breath until Jan 6th, 2025

[@janetsanders5356]

🇺🇦🌻🇺🇦

[@catherineandpaulfuters2523]

Thank you for your coverage and insights 🇬🇧🇺🇦🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇺🇦🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇺🇦🇪🇺

[@ldt6513]

I think Ryan is wrong about drones. There will be drone swarms in the skies, land, on the surface and under the surface of the sea. They will have AI tech, which will allow them to identify, chase and hit targets.

[@johnbialy9254]

I have counted the red lines on the American flag and can only find 6 and not 13.. Ryan, I love your very knowledgeable and insightful understanding of the war in Ukraine. Your podcasts on KZbin are brilliant! By the way,your surname Mc Beth! reminds me that I must read more Shakespeare.. Thank you for your huge energy and effort to keep us informed and improve our knowledge and pitiful lack of awareness about the complexities of warfare.. Perhaps it's time that everyone ought to have a taste of being in the Forces in order to have first hand experience to know what it means to fight for and protect their values of living in freedom. Just sitting comfortably watching TV and looking at the people fighting on the frontline is not anywhere near enough!

[@laurencelockwood6209]

There is no point in drafting men if there are not enough weapons and kit to give them?

[@brandonhamilton833]

Great to see Ryan on here. He's absolutely fantastic at what he does!

[@paigehamilton4772]

It made my heart sad to hear Ryan make excuses for Musk.

[@GetOutsideYourself]

That must be the "triathlete" part of him, the one that smokes cigars and drinks whiskey.

[@natureb2267]

Excellent analysis. Thanks for a great interview.

[@karenrobertsdottir4101]

Raptor was not derived from a Russian engine. Nor was Merlin, Draco, SuperDraco, or Kestrel. But that said, modern rocketry is built on the shoulders of giants, and every designer looks back at what was tried (by either side of the Cold War) in the past and builds off of the knowledge of what worked and what didn't work.

[@pobybuf]

Elon wanted to buy. Russian engines, he was refused.

[@karenrobertsdottir4101]

@@pobybuf You're now talking about back before even the start of SpaceX, and it wasn't engines that he wanted, but a whole rocket, in order to launch a Mars mini-greenhouse, to inspire more interest (and funding) of Mars colonization. The Russians tried to rip him off on the deal, and he backed out, and then started SpaceX instead. SpaceX has never used, nor tried to use, Russian engines. That was ULA.

[@foobarf8766]

I haven't watched this yet just want to say Ryan's presence makes the Internet a better place. Kia ora from New Zealand!

[@johncromwell2529]

Great interviews 👏👏

[@draganjagodic4056]

Sincere respect and really like to listen to Mr. Ryan. He always delivers excellent expertise and can immerse himself in the psychology of the opponent.

[@MelGibsonMovie]

We love Ryan! Great video.

[@Pooneil1984]

It is always good to see someone talk about the change in observations as a cause in the noticed change of a behavior.

[@RobertRobinson-t6w]

To Ryan, i got my draft card 3 weeks after i graduated from high school on my 18th birthday. 1973, i grew up during that war

[@claireanddexter]

Silicon Curtain is on fire this week! amazing standard of reporting and analysis!

[@pavloskellerman3669]

Really? as usual he view everything through blue and yellow tinted glasses and doesnt understan or want to know the realities on the ground. Ukraine is being destroyed by the west so they can provoke at Russia.

[@victorzarenin9286]

I have to make a quick point about how certain well-meaning people with right wing perspectives who otherwise have a clear eyed view on Putin and his regime seem almost comically blind to the defects of American actors who are "on their side". This also applies in some degree to Konstantin, who does the regular economic updates on Silicon Curtain. Now, both Konstantin and Ryan in this episode have my fullest respect, EXCEPT where their analysis falls around Trump and Musk and similar characters. When I heard Ryan say that "Trump's biggest concern is China" I wanted to laugh out loud. I'm sorry, but that's just a silly way to try to understand Trump's behaviour. Trump is not a normal politician with a thought-out political ideology, making evaluations based on policy and the long term interests of the United States. That's just not how he thinks. Trump is, and always has been, a criminal who sees whatever endeavor he's engaged in, from business to politics, not as a way to actually contribute to society but rather as a way to enrich and enpower himself. Trump doesn't consider world leaders or foreign nations in terms of what they mean for the U.S., he considers them in terms of what they mean for HIM. Firstly, he directionally admires authoritarian leaders. The more brutal, the better. He has repeatedly praised not just Putin, but Ji and Kim Jong Un, calling them "smart" for ruling with and "iron fist". Trump doesn't see anything wrong with enacting policy by shooting the family of anyone who disagrees with him. He's just upset that he wasn't able to get away with that here, at least not yet. He doesn't want to stop Ji or Kim or Putin, he wants to BE them, and he'll ally with whichever one of them strokes his ego and bribes him more and gives him enough cover to get away with it. The idea that Trump has some sort of well-thought out policy plan to preserve Anerican resources for a war to protect Taiwan against China makes the assumption that Trump even knows what Taiwan is. That, in and of itself, is highly unlikely. Likewise with Elon Musk, the idea that he's got a positive bent towards Russia because many of his employees are from there is just utter nonsense. Firstly, Musk doesn't give a damn about his employees. He overworks people and underpays them. He flaunts safety regulations, and regularly makes fun of his workers when they demand fair pay, safe conditions, and the like. He treats his people like garbage; just look at all the twitter employees from other countries that he just got rid of without a thought to how it would affect their visa status, whole simultaneously cutting them off from promised severance pay and benefits. I'd say I was happy that Twitter's functionality and thus profitability has sunk like a horseshoe since Musk got rid of everyone, but the reality is that he's still richer than God and all those people still have no livelihood now. Musk is the type of guy who truly believes that he and he alone is responsible for all of the success of his companies, as if he personally caught the descending Space X rocket with his own two hands. As far as I can tell, the only advantage that Musk brings to the companies he operates is a massive influx of capital because he's managed to convince plenty of investors, other billionaires, and even the U.S. government to flood him with billions of dollars, despite the fact that he has a long, long, long track record of overpromising, underdelivering, straight up lying about projects, sacrificing worker and customer safety, while simultaneously jeopardizing all of these projects with his erratic and childish behavior. The fact is, you don't have to be a genius if you have hundreds of billions of dollars to play with. You can pay the actual geniuses, or rather underpay them, to do the important work that you just claim credit for. That applies to Musk today more than ever. This is not a guy making serious, long-term strategic business decisions. Musk is a spoiled little rich boy who's daddy ran an Apartheid emerald mine in South Africa, who managed to get in with the right people and had just enough brains to trick stupid rich people and politicians into giving him more and more and more money. Just like Trump, Musk does not make his decisions based on long term policy or business goals, he does it based on his own personal ego and sense of superiority. Musk's support for both Trump and Putin come from exactly the same factors. 1. Musk thinks his children are toys that he owns and can treat however he wants. He named one of his sons X AE A Xii. Leave aside the childish obsession with the letter X, what kind of father does that to their son? One who sees his children purely as an extension of himself, like naming tour dog after your favorite movie or something. Anyway, one of Musk's kids had the audacity to, you know, try to actually be their own individual human self, and Musk couldn't take it. Musk has a trans kid, and rather than doing the normal thing and TALKING TO TOUR CHILD he decided that the problem was "Wokeness". Musk has destroyed the livelihoods of many of his workers by eliminating their jobs right after making them move to the U.S. or making them work in horrible conditions or for example dropping flaming debree on the houses of random innocent people because he bribed Ron DeSantis to give him exemptions to various safety and environmental regulations. Now, despite being literally the richest human being who has ever lived in the history of mankind, Musk feels himself deeply oppressed and put upon because some of the people who's lives he's utterly screwed have been, God Forbid!!!! Complaining about him on social media! Obviously it's just selfish for those people to complain about their houses burning down while the true tragedy is this centi-billionaire having to put up with some people writing him mean comments while 2000 miles away on his 4th largest yacht. It really is this simple: Elon Musk is an egotistical man baby with enough money to give him more power than most sovereign nations. He supports Trump and Putin not because of policy decisions, or even because of business decisions, but because they stroke his ego and he knows they will never, ever hold him to account for all of his abuses. They'll never make him pay his taxes. They'll never pressure him to treat his workers with respect. They'll never force him to provide a better accounting of how his companies spend government funds, or how they flaunt regulations, or ANY of that. Trump and Putin will keep kissing his ass and giving him money so long as he keeps up his end of the bargain and supports them. It's trult that simple. It's time for serious conservatives to stop creating excuses for morons when those morons are on their side. I have no problem saying that Kamala's answer on letting Ukraine into NATO was unprincipled, weak, and pathetic, despite the fact that I will be voting for her next week and think she's 1000 times better than Trump on this and every other issue. If conservatives claim to be intellectually serious, they have to call out the b.s. on their own side.

[@tk80mufa5]

Good comment! Just wanna add : since the 1990s both DNC & GOP vis-à-vis Russia have lost all credibility. We are in this dire situation today , because starting with Clinton (?) suddenly everyone , including Obama (!!!) openly collaborated with the Russians including Putin. Another add-on : both parties have domestically radicalized it seems. One side with the religious influence , the other with the rainbow influence. Centrism has been abandoned apparantly , and former politicians have faced no consequences regarding their complete and abject failure regarding Putin. There really is no hope or improvement in sight. The last "intellectual" conservatives are no more , as they were all already old in the 1980s.......

[@daiakunin]

Great conversation! Keep up the good work Jonathan!

[@russell3060]

SILICON CURTAIN: Long and interesting conversation. But I just want to comment about the discussion of Ukrainian mobilization. Sounded almost like you were implying that young Ukrainians just didn't want to fight. I don't think that is the main issue. The 'population pyramid' for young Ukrainians is absolutely anemic; it can't be compared to the mobilization of, say, Americans in previous wars when the USA had a booming population. In Ukraine, sending young males to the war would really decimate the remaining population. The government, itself, doesn't want this to happen. Slava Ukraini. 💛💙

[@mauberge]

Great interview. Thank you both! Love the idea of a Flying Tigers squadron.

[@terryhand]

I believe it was Vasily Grossman (I might be wrong) who said that Stalin downplayed the Holocaust because it detracted from the "suffering of the Russian people", which was much more useful to his propaganda.

[@seagone501]

Another great interview common sense we need more of this. Thank you for posting.

[@petter5721]

Thank you! Being in Sweden, our government has issued another public pamphlet of information what to do if war comes. Civil defence is rapidly being built up and 65000 bomb shelters being refurbished now.

[@Scarletpimpanel73]

With respect to Elon Musk, people need to learn to accept that some people are just tools. No reason, they just are. And ... Musk is a tool.

[@tedwarden1608]

He’s definitely a spanner.

[@Ghastly_Grinner]

Cope

[@Scarletpimpanel73]

@@Ghastly_Grinner "Cope" is translated "I'm too stupid to come out with an inteligible response to something I don't agree with, so I'll just use some meme word I heard somewhere that cool people seem to use a lot".

[@Ghastly_Grinner]

@Scarletpimpanel73 no cope is just short for if you think that odds are you are brainwashed or your parents were related before they were married

[@Scarletpimpanel73]

@@Ghastly_Grinner Right, so rather than have an actual argument or take an actual position. .You think it's worthwhile calling a stranger brainwashed or inbred ... given that you are not developing a rational position have you considered it might actually be you who is brainwashed?

[@luminyam6145]

I just love Ryan McBeth.💖💖💖

[@nathamwright]

If I were Taiwan I would be worried.

[@NyPer920]

Thank you Jonathan for another great programme.

[@NoMoReBoTz99]

Wait till Jake Bro finds out that Ryan drives a Tesla.

[@dannydetonator]

That's common knowledge and i bet Jake knows. I wouldn't expect brand trolling from him, unless it's about the Russian money flow in Elonmoth's companies.

[@AirB-101]

Thank you for bringing in Ryan! A much needed view from our US YT'bers!! Next, how about Cappy, HLC, Preston Stewart & US Vet? Just a few suggestions. But thank you Sir!

[@Ghatbkk]

I like lots of Ryan's stuff, but he's been getting out of his lane and areas of expertise often recently.

[@chriwa6830]

Excellent guest to an excellent show 👏👍

[@TaniaJazzz]

Ryan gives a lot of good info until he starts talking politics, he seems to believe Trump will defend Ukraine and is driven by patriotism. 😐Comments like that make him seem clueless about politics.

[@eddiegoodman9267]

Thanks for the update and views 🇺🇲🇺🇦

[@philjameson292]

I would argue against the continued statement that we are in WW3 These younger people seem to have completely glossed over the Cold War, which more than often was rather hot caused by proxy wars all over the globe I would say that we are now in Cold War 2

[@stariyczedun]

Total USSR losses in all adventures during Cold War were a fraction of what they have already lost in Ukraine. It's hardly a cold war as we knew it. The starting date if WW3 might be known only in hindsight - I bet when Germany started pounding Poland, not everyone understood they are already in it.

[@pouncet1683]

We always thought ww3 is some convential war with a topping of nuclear but it may be a cyber and info war with a sprinkling of conventional war. The end result maybe not as physical but could as well be rather damaging. Psychological and economical. Cultural too.

[@GCarty80]

@@stariyczedun I'd say the current war in Ukraine is Cold War II's equivalent of the Korean War. In the Korean War the primary Eastern Bloc power (the USSR) did not participate directly but the secondary one (the PRC) did. In Cold War II the PRC is the primary enemy and Russia is the secondary enemy, and it is Russia waging a hot war against a Western ally. The analogue to North Korea itself in this war is the DPR and LPR puppet states: note that in the Korean War the North Koreans were defeated fairly quickly with the rest of the war being against the Chinese.

[@ucantSQ]

Totally. Total hyperbole. I'm so sick of hearing this. Maybe it will *become* the next world war, but it isn't yet. These people sound so excited about the prospect, I almost sense a little wishful thinking in the declaration.

[@philjameson292]

@ucantSQ I know, rather worrying

[@2serveand2protect]

Excellent choice of Guests! ...with a CAPITAL "G"! (or - shall I say - "R" for "Ryan"!) ;) :) Greetings from Poland! :)

[@gram8821]

The fact that Ryan McBeth says that Donald Trump will probably continue US support of Ukraine as a means to deter China shoes he lives in a fantasy world.

[@Sophocles13]

@ 30:45 ukraine will be the end of drones and fpv drones should be spotting for artillery??? Ryan, why do you think they started using the drones? Because they had no artillery ammunition, and at this point, the fpv drones are the same price or cheaper than a single artillery shell. Especially a guided one. And more accurate. And more versatile. And depending on the payload can be as destructive as a 155 shell. I know it's not fpv but I guarantee you've seen TM62's dropped from Ukranian octocopters.

[@randyhergenrether6914]

Ryan didn't have a lot to offer 52 minutes into the interview. The front end was good.

[@MelGibsonMovie]

20:28 I think Eastern Europeans are tired of fighting alone. Russians outnumber them. Eastern Europeans can only do so much. I'm sure the morale would improve if there was proper NATO backup.. it's kinda hard to fight a bear when you're a dog or even wolf.

[@briancavanagh7048]

Poland is getting ready incase they need to go it alone. Been there done that before

[@konsyjes]

I think we're looking at robotics in a few years. Ryan's ideas on drone warfare change I think make a lot of sense. I think heavier remotely operated and AI operated unmanned platforms are definitely in development.

[@edwardanderson4678]

I don't quite understand this concept of soldiers not getting to see their "spouses or loved ones" for a year or maybe two, as a massive problem when compared to not fighting. In both WWI and WWII, Australian soldiers travelled to the other side of the planet and fought for as many years as was required to win. My Father fought across North Africa before he was sent to Greece, they had to retreat and my Father was sent to help defend Crete and when Crete fell he was taken prisoner by the Germans and was held untill the camp was liberated by the Americans. They had been force marched to Germany due to the Russians advancing. My father even had the interesting experience of trying to cover behind a low rock fence as a Spitfire strafed the column, hopefully thinking that they were Germans, and apparently the Spitfire's 20mm guns were effective in punching through the rocks and dismembering some of his mates, it's called war and it is not pleasant for most. Not every war is over in Six Days.

[@Jewishandproud43]

Outstanding, simply Outstanding ❤

[@phillee2814]

Ryan clearly doesn't have the faintest understanding of the existential crisis that Ukraine is facing on conscription. If they conscript 18 to 25-year-olds, they will not even have another generation, which is not even remotely close to anything the US has ever faced. So they wisely chose to start from the eldest, who had already had children, and gradually lowered the conscription age, instead of wiping out their ENTIRE population of breeding-age men at the very start. That is called demographics, which Ryan should acquaint himself with. The US has had conscription, but never even close to the kind of total generational loss that would face Ukraine, which already has a deficit in that age group. The older age group also has a family which they want to defend, which is proving to be a significant factor in motivation that younger men would be lacking. Ryan is too high on his own supply to consider the situation of a nation that has been threatened and abused by its neighbour for three hundred years, with several very significant genocides making the population pyramid chart very distorted. Ukraine HAS conscripts ready to go but lacking equipment, and can train more if they can get the supplies to equip them - but who is going to fight if they can't get weapons? Complaining about the recruitment policy is just dodging the responsibility the US, along with the UK, took on when Ukraine was swindled out of its huge nuclear arsenal (larger than that of the US) in the Budapest Memorandum, which gives guarantees in the Ukrainian translation but watered that down to assurances in English, and even further in that in English (only) it was just an assurance of the 1991 border being respected, not of aid in enforcing it, which was what Ukraine signed up to in return for their nukes. I suppose the English language diplomats thought they were being clever. Harris has said very strongly that under her, the US will stand by its democratic allies that she firmly believes in, while Trump intends to end all sanctions and all support of Ukraine - or, indeed, Europe. He is a complete Putler fanboi and yearns to be such a powerful dictator over the US as Putler, Kim Jong-Un, or Xi are over the territories they oppress, and has already prepared the ground with his SCOTUS appointments to allow him exactly that degree of control. Thankfully, it looks extremely unlikely that he will even manage to stay out of prison, much less have any measurable effect on the US government (barring the riots he will provoke when the result of voting is known, which he has been carefully preparing the ground for with messaging to his cult members). But under Trump's control, the Republican party has become the Terrorist Federation party, with Trump desperate to have the control over the US that Putler has over the terrorist federation, and they, in turn, are feeding propaganda into the US to help Trump and Muskrat achieve the power they lust after (and cripple support for Ukraine, of course). More than enough registered Republicans seem to have realised that, and resent the loss of their party to a wannabee dictator, to endorse, campaign on behalf of, and certainly vote for Kamala Harris. And the sad thing is that the plutocrats in the West will only look at how they can gain the most wealth and power, and will seek to normalise relations with the terrorists so that they can return to business as usual and sod the fact that they are allowing an entire nation to be wiped out. They must be brought into line, by force if necessary. 🇺🇦Slava Ukraini!🇺🇦🇬🇧

[@bz8474]

Fair points but all that was really missing from him was a caveat. His points are valid, people don’t get into the details, they just see that people under 25 are exempt from conscription so that can’t be that existential, why are my tax payers dollars being sent there. Our leaders so totally suck at making the case to support Ukraine.

[@AkenValle]

​@@bz8474there is only 1 million men age 18 to 25 in Ukraine chickenhawk

[@bahiraluna]

very well said! 100% accurate

[@phillee2814]

@@bz8474 By not making those points he is just using this interview as a Trump/Putler echo chamber to spread their disinformation though.

[@johncarlaw8633]

@phillee2814 "Ryan clearly doesn't have the faintest understanding of the existential crisis that Ukraine is facing on conscription. " I don't think that is HIS point, he is stating that others think that it is more acceptable to conscript teenagers and not doing so indicates a lack of determination in the population. He indicates that attitude from countries that haven't even done that for 50 years and even then was only a fraction of those eligible and of those only a proportion were likely to se close combat.. Then indicates Ukraine has many who are willing, just the population is not willing to send teenagers. For a country to continue to seek to maintain this even in such dire condition I think is admirable.

[@leepatterson5710]

The Raptor is not derived by Russian rocket engines. I know McBeth added he wasn’t sure, but for those watching you know it isn’t true. Saying it is derived from a Russian engine is like saying a Formula 1 engine is derived from a Honda Odyssey’s engine. They operate on similar principles but nowhere near the same. I think Ryan is think of the RD-180 used on the US ULA Atlas V, which is based on the RD-70 used on the Energia shuttle. The closest engine to the Raptor is the RD270 which both operate Full Flow Staged Combustion, but the 270 doesn’t use the same type of fuel and it didn’t leave the prototype stage. They aren’t similar beyond using the same cycle type, which as mentioned before the comparison of a race car and family van both use internal combustion. In any case love hearing Ryan talk.

[@aaahus4836]

First and thanks great guest

[@rockbutcher]

Have a cookie. Great guest indeed.

[@idkaukas]

Great conversation👍

[@bobfry5267]

Ryan is frighteningly inaccurate on the Holocaust and Russia. The fate of Russian Jews was certain and terminal. The lack of numbers would be due to long standing Russian persecution for centuries. Pogrom is a Russian word.

[@KarlKarpfen]

But is he so wrong in the context he talked? That Russians didn't care much about Jews, but that the Nazis were the most successful invaders of Russia within the last couple of centuries (therefore a huge threat) in the "great patriotic war" as Russians call it. This historic threat as a motivator works quite well, while it was far more of a motivator for the US in WW2, that the US was the country with the most jewish population and Germany was committing a genocide on the Jews.

[@Grace.allovertheplace]

Hi, I’m looking forward to hear what you and Mr McBeth are going to discuss, even though the title is sort of revealing. I want to say my heartfelt thanks to you Jonathan for all the hard work you put into making all these absolutely fantastic interviews, as well as thank both you and all of the incredible guests who are joining you on your podcast, and who helps educate us and keep track of the extremely fast development. Слава Україні 🇺🇦 Героям Слава 🫡💙💛 Respectfully, Grace 🙏🇺🇦

[@pobybuf]

I believe the drone thesis is wrong in that. It may cost a $1000 to take out a million dollar vehicle. That's including cost of your training for flying drone. And infrastructure to support it.

[@Marmot_with_a_Branch_of_Plums2]

Great video, have Ryan on again!

[@Dalwhinnie15]

McBeth is a great guest!

[@marklancaster5784]

Awesome!

[@danielgorrill7037]

I strongly disagree with his stance on drones not being qs efficient as artillery, a fpv drone cost them about $500, a m777 howitzer is north of $3,000,000, thats 6000 drones before a single shell is fired

[@MichaelPinto]

Thanks!

[@motouno3778]

Sorry I can't make it to the end ! Ryan is babbling on about things he has no idea about & his views are totally misconstrued !

[@gavingreene7133]

Very informative video! As the old saying goes,”TEST ME BI***, and THEN SEE WHAT HAPPENS”! We’re going there and no one seems to notice. I LOVED WW2 history all my life. We were slowly moving towards it but countries are getting “ballsy” and confident. The fights coming boys and girls, where will you be?

[@laurencelockwood6209]

They probably just struck Barrow in Furness. Massive fire at the moment on the dreadnought dockyard of BAE Systems.

[@BigDaddyButthead90]

Multiculturalism, how many eastern Europeans of Russian ancestry working there? Government will cover it up because Multiculturalism is more important to them, many Russian stooges in British and European parliaments.

[@blackcountryme]

When I saw that, I thought that first...

[@briancavanagh7048]

I really enjoy listening to Ryan on his channel. It’s not until you hear him speak with a pom that you realise we are separated by a common language. Subtle differences separated by an ocean. Just like “planet of the apes”: we (apes) are stronger together.

[@scottyd3138]

Always listen to what Ryan has to say, super smart guy

[@josephsmith6777]

Trench warfare is pretty rough

[@tommcfadden5232]

That’s an understatement 😊

[@felipearbustopotd]

If restrictions are not lifted after the election on the 5th Nov, then kiss goodbye to the way of life as we know it. Why not use hovercrafts? Cushion of air - not worries about mud or water.

[@derekhieb7458]

I don't know geo-politics, i just play with weapons. Rayn Mcbeth

[@das250250]

Some crazy assumptions ... Anything orange will be catastrophic for Europe and west.

[@gorkyd7912]

Based on MSNBC. Certainly not based on reality. Remember when orange man said Germany needs to cut reliance on Russian gas? Remember when orange man said NATO members need to step up and start funding the alliance properly? And his predecessor was the absolute failure that "reset" relations with Putin after Georgia was invaded. "I'll have more flexibility after the election." - Barack Obama, to Russia, before his 2nd term. BTW, Russia annexed Crimea 2 years into Barack's 2nd term. I really wish people in America would stop listening to their garbage DNC media and just remember basic history. It's not hard, just a cursory understanding of things that happened within their own lifetimes.

[@tages_matuna]

Great to see Ryan on Silicon Curtain, he is so cool. Actually you both are really cool people.

[@hrvojesvetec3058]

Love Mcbeth👍👍..very smart, descent, good guy...Slava Ukraini!🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🇲🇸🇪👍

[@AkenValle]

Hilarious propagandist

[@realitycheck908]

Legends boost

[@nathamwright]

What ever is done will come too little too late.

[@tk80mufa5]

Exactly! We are now over 10 and a half YEARS late........ 😔

[@tommcfadden5232]

As always.

[@tedarcher9120]

There are like 2500 155mm howitzer in storage. 2000 m1a2 tanks, 3000 Bradleys, 4000 m113, etc.

[@petermelville5524]

Ryan, comparing Ukraine unfavorably to Kuwait, as Kuwait had oil and geography. Not a good comparison as over the long term Ukraine has every thing. Talley up: oil/gas/uranium/Lithium/coal/heavy industry/agriculture/ports and ship building/rockets and airframes. The Eu and Turkey and the US soiled the bed in 2014, gave up the most advantageous inclusion into their eco-defense sphere, period. This enabled Putin and showed that he could move more aggressively into American and UK political influence. Yes, Russia, Russia, Russia

[@KarlKarpfen]

"We will see the end of the drone in Ukraine, too, as there is counter-drone development, too." That's exactly what they said about tanks and warplanes in WW1, too.

[@krakhedd]

Ryan's remarks on the election are dangerously ignorant, completely disregarding every indication that Trump will bring fascism with him, which surely does not help Ukraine. This is not partisan judgment, this is taking Trump at his own words.

[@Mike-br8zt]

What utter rubbish.

[@martavdz4972]

@@Mike-br8zt I wouldn´t want any of my country´s politicians say they´d like to be a dictator for a day. This isn´t something you joke about and if he doesn´t see that, there´s something wrong with him.

[@qr3579]

I would also strongly disagree with Ryan’s “benefit of the doubts” argument about Musk. Musk was not talking to a chief engineer or CEO at Rosskosmos, he was talking to bloody Putin . And as far a I know, neither of them is a rocket engineer.

[@Bob-nd2mr]

@@Mike-br8zt Trump has ancestral links here in Scotland and comes here sometimes.. some like his "business first" attitude but right from the start we thought he was wrong , Thinkin everything can be bought and just something not right about him....would not vote for him and the only one i know that did business with him ended up in jail because of tax dodging and Donald didna help him ... too small a detail for this grand fella...keep clear of him

[@gorkyd7912]

OK, show me his quote where he says he is bringing fascism to the US.