Scooby-Doo: Return To Zombie Island Ruins Your Childhood

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[@RyanHollinger]

*What is the BEST and WORST Scooby-Doo movie?*

[@theirishpotato6588]

The 2 live action scooby doo movies are amazing.

[@legendre007]

Mr. Hollinger, my favorite is the original _Zombie Island_ , though I have yet to see the new movie that concludes the cliff hanger from _Thirteen Ghosts of Scooby-Doo_ . But again, I must beg you to do a video examining the very clever recent series _Scooby Doo: Mystery Incorporated_ , which has a single over-arching mystery. 😯

[@cracktoon_powerscaling]

Watch Over The Garden Wall dood

[@jfoeodkapfk]

OG Zombie Island without a doubt. Those zombies were fucking intense when I was a kid. Kick-started my love of all things horror.

[@Shift_Salt]

Both of these questions are hard to answer. Zombie Island is honsetly my favorite, but practically any of the "dotted eyes" movies are ones I hate.

[@TheHallow31]

Wait, the villains' plan was to scare everyone off the island just so they could locate Moonscar's treasure? That's actually kinda funny because that's what Fred thought was going on in the first movie.

[@stephonmanny7555]

It's kinda sad too. I mean the original was about breaking expedition and telling a new story. While this one is kinda a cash grab.

[@yaaninja]

if the ferry driver was the bad guy couldnt he just refuse passage to moon scar island??

[@acecashman1237]

mc5353t of course not, because that would make too much sense and therefore make the movie pointless

[@TheGateShallStand]

@@yaaninja sir. He's the bad guy, meaning he wants what's happens in the movie to happen, to happen. Stop.

[@MangaSlayer102]

Stephon Manny kinda a cash grab?

[@DanTheMan2150AD]

*It was never gonna be Terror Time Again.*

[@AndreNitroX]

Terror time again will live in my dreams

[@Gruntvc]

I'd rather watch that film again than subject myself to this crap.

[@deejaydj6013]

Legendary song best scoobie doo movie

[@TheNaturalGamer1]

Type F to pay your respects

[@livestreamgaming420]

DanTheMan 2150AD best Scooby Doo song

[@Shift_Salt]

The long awaited sequel that bashes the very hated sequel.

[@TimeBomb014X]

Sounds oddly familiar to another sequel to a once beloved franchise

[@pivotresearchfoundation]

The ZombieMan Star Wars? Ghostbusters? The hobbit? Any Disney renaissance cartoon?

[@saphirawinters7028]

@@pivotresearchfoundation mostly Atlantis The Lost Empire. The sequel for that movie was shit.

[@MarshallLeeA]

@@saphirawinters7028 It wasn't a sequel, it was three random episodes from a cancelled show stitched together.

[@markmacneil8816]

Saphira Winters what about the all female Ghostbusters?

[@maninthebox420m]

"Return to Zombie Island." AFTER EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED, WHY WOULD YOU GO BACK?!

[@Xehanort10]

Exactly. "Hey that place where cat creatures nearly killed us by sucking our souls out. Let's go back there."

[@ironwoodnf]

Know what I miss?? That creeeeeepy biyou drawl

[@riverpaw3234]

Money

[@voltdesignstudios]

As terrible as the film is, none of you have clearly watched the film.

[@ironwoodnf]

@@voltdesignstudios how is it "clear"? I mean had just a few years with the VCR tape but let's just say you right. What makes you think we didn't watch?

[@MisterNightmare13]

You also should of mentioned that they stupidly had velma be all like “Oh yeah all the stuff we experienced here was all fake. There were no cat people or zombies it was all just swamp gas and costumes” at the end which was a real slap in the face for both fans and the original film

[@Xehanort10]

This film's version of Velma was annoying. In Zombie Island her and Fred tried to rationally explain it but accepted the supernatural truth when Fred pulled the zombie's head off.

[@Numbuh8578]

@@Xehanort10 yea like the original cat people died right in front of them by melting to death, how can Velma explain that?

[@Numbuh8578]

Guys I got an Idea for a zombie island sequel that I think can fix this mess My plot involves a few culprits from the original Scooby Doo series breaking out of jail, hiding out on Moonscar island and using a ritual to summon the souls of the three werecats and they all team up to get revenge on the Scooby gang, it's perfect

[@TheLadyKiel]

The spirits of the real zombie were laid to rest after the cat women died and turned into dust. There fore there wouldn’t be anymore real zombies, this movie just ignores that part- I hate sequels for this reason, sequels especially of something as classic, as scooby usually sucks. The only Good sequel is literally the live action movie

[@Lucid_PZPL]

@@Numbuh8578 “it was all special effects”

[@KhanCrete]

When you said "cat bitches" I heard "cabbages" and honestly I'd love a movie where crazy cabbages drain people

[@mrandrews3616]

MY CABBAGES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@jsb6975.ah.crapbaskets]

@@mrandrews3616 Avatar: Revenge of the Cabbage Man.

[@ChimeraMK]

@@jsb6975.ah.crapbaskets The real enemy of the Avatar: The Cabbagebender

[@jsb6975.ah.crapbaskets]

@@ChimeraMK the deadliest of them all.

[@RogueT-Rex8468]

The Primary Antagonist 🎶THEY’RE, CABBAGES! CABBAGES! BARELY EVEN HUMAN!🎶🎶

[@Crazelord91]

The original gave me nightmares for weeks as a kid. This just makes me sad as an adult

[@jennikifm2]

As an adult, I like the sequel. It’s funny. It’s nowhere as good as the original though. I wasn’t really scared of the original when I was a kid, but I loved it so much. And I still do. It’s one of my most favorite Scooby movies.

[@ChaosZero1031]

I could have sworn that in the original Zombie Island Simone implied that the treasure was real but over the centuries they had used up that treasure to basically upkeep their island, and I believe pay off people. Since I think they also imply something about them originally killing or paying off ferrymen, until (I think it's) Jacque became the ferryman who just wanted to be immortal so they turned him into another cat creature.

[@zairnermuller4960]

I think they were so out of touch with the original movie. And I don't know what the hell happened with Velma's Shaggy's and Scooby's voices, they're so bad in these movie. Velma sounds very annoying and Shaggy doesn't really sound like him. They should've rehired Billy West and Scott for their roles, I think they did better than whoever is voicing scooby and Shaggy these days

[@jeffersonmason3780]

I remember the original fairly well. They never mention what they did with Moonscar's treasure or them killing off all the other ferrymen.

[@toonman5099]

@@zairnermuller4960 Doesn't help this was basically a sequel to "Curse of the 13th Ghost." Oh you didn't know? Yeah thanks to "Happy Halloween, Scooby-Doo!" and it's """"villain"""", it's a trilogy. One made up of 2 retcon movies that basically slap the face of the original fans of both the 13 Ghosts show and Zombie Island because WB has this weird vendetta against having real paranormal activity be confirmed in this series having to keep defaulting to "capitalists in masks", and a 3rd movie that's basically a knock-off version of Billy & Mandy's Halloween TV special (that also has a moment to say "paranormal stuff in Scooby is stupid") which felt like was ham-stringed together into being a mystery plot at the 11th hour. But also all 3 of these movies are just badly written movies, and worse written mysteries so I'm willing to just not count any of them as even CLOSE to being GENERALLY canon to the overall franchise. Fuck this recent "Smug, Know-it-all, Ghosts aren't real (lest my brain melt into goo)" Velma we've had to suffer with.

[@Pokesatsu96]

This is honestly the first time I'm hearing about this "sequel".

[@irishjoe2941]

TRYFORCE! Same

[@cellmax55]

same as well

[@8Makes1]

Same! I've been a lifelong fan of Scooby Doo and I've never heard of this. 😫

[@Nirual]

Same

[@blackdeath8821]

Same here.

[@ThirdEyeTyrone]

Warner Bros: “And we would’ve gotten away with it too, if it weren’t for that meddling kid and his KZbin channel.”

[@Gruntvc]

WB is like EA. They love to ruin good stuff too.

[@missiontobeaman3111]

Nah they wouldn’t have either way

[@arkhamknight7236]

@@Gruntvc taking it too far now.

[@jfoeodkapfk]

The original Zombie Island was my favorite VHS back in the day. I have so many amazing memories of being 5 or 6 right around the turn of the century and watching it over and over. I miss those days. Also, Lena was a babe.

[@Flourikum]

Dude that entire era of Scooby Doo Movies was waaaay to good at the time like Cyber Chase, Alien Invaders, Witches Ghost, and Legend of the Vampire were all just awesome childhood movies that I still go back and watch from time to time.

[@AndreNitroX]

Yes scooby doo made my childhood

[@jordanwright2072]

@Morcego cinzento Lena's a psycho bitch

[@brandontaylor6677]

dude, I have it on dvd. I can watch it anytime

[@Goldman200]

You mean Simone

[@poweroffriendship2.0]

*_Legend has it that Shaggy uses 0.0001% of his powers to restore your childhood back after it was destroyed._*

[@Gruntvc]

I'd rather watch the originals. Way better than these lazy and passionless woke reboots/sequels.

[@poweroffriendship2.0]

@@Gruntvc Yeah.

[@Depth217]

Sir Friendship Shaggy actually realizes he doesn’t have to, because he knows the fans are smart enough to realize the best thing to do is to ignore this sad piece of shit movie.

[@SilverQuartz13]

I miss this meme.

[@reptile1687]

He doesnt have power

[@cutteredgeeffect9299]

You said that Moonscar's treasure was never mentioned in the original. Actually, Fred originally believed it to be people dressed up as pirates scaring people off of the island so they could find the treasure. I just wanted to point that out.

[@mcteen5198]

Simone Lenoir mentioned it too, she said it was never found.

[@cutteredgeeffect9299]

@@mcteen5198 Also. When Simone and Lena approach the pirates to kill them. They are burying the treasure.

[@Logitah]

The original just flabbergasted me! I remember being genuinely thrilled and scared. It saddens me that this was just a cheap cash-in, because the original left me wanting more.

[@chandleredwards2823]

Can I just say the show Mystery Incorporated is a legit incredible show, imagine Lost but smart.

[@hinasakukimi]

eh i thought the velma/shaggy/scooby shit was a little weak

[@velvetdarksoul8741]

@@hinasakukimi i thought it was to prove that just like Freds obssesion with *Traps and The Mystery Machine* Shaggy has a to close relationship with his dog to ever have a girlfriend -3-

[@hinasakukimi]

@@velvetdarksoul8741 yeah it just..... wasn't for me ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ more power to people who enjoyed it though.

[@AidanDownes_KH]

@@hinasakukimi what about all the shows deaths as well like the death of hot dog water. When you here her getting shot.

[@doubleasworkshop1692]

@@hinasakukimi but the velma and shaggy shit stops like 7 episodes in. And the series immediately improves in quality

[@fernandomendoza4219]

I hope they don't fuck up with something like "Return of the Witch's Ghost" and mess up that classic gem.

[@itheckinwindy]

They already bring the Hex Girls back every few years, so a Witch's Ghost sequel is all but inevitable. Maybe if we're really lucky, WB will take the negative reception of Return to Zombie Island and the 13th Ghost into consideration...

[@goreycinema]

And after that, Scooby-Doo: Return of the Alien Invaders.

[@Jrskeetpro]

Honestly most iterations of the Hex girls have been pretty good (not so much the newer one). So maybe there’s hope?

[@beastmaster0934]

Doctor Evilface And I bet when they get to Cyberchase, they’ll make the Phantom Virus do fortnite dances and shit like that.

[@dtaylor4552]

I would like to see a sequel of Scooby Doo meets Batman with the voices of Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamill in character designs from Batman TAS of 1992.

[@tash6249]

scooby doo and the cyber chase was MY CHILDHOOOOD

[@athiede1712]

Holy shit i forgot about that movie, you just gave me flashbacks

[@justgween7573]

I didn't think much of it as a kid but looking back it was a pretty good story and quite experimental. Seeing their old selves and teaming up with their current selves was an interesting and fun concept.

[@micheljohnson-figueredo8627]

Holy shit! Fucking awesome movie

[@johnnyjoestar6838]

Same

[@RYMAN1321]

Especially when the Internet wasn’t as big yet.

[@justbilli4499]

There's been a lot of Scooby-Doo videos recently and I'm here for it

[@habbogigi]

right? feels like so many creators are covering Scooby Doo and I’m loving it!

[@AndreNitroX]

Most of the straight to dvd films are trash but some are jems. And I’ll keep watching each movie but I don’t have to like every one.

[@fransandersson4717]

Its great scooby doo was my child hood

[@samuelgarcia3989]

justbilli probably because theres a new movie coming out

[@catherinefuller25]

Scooby Doo's Reluctant Werewolf, Ghouls School, and Boo Brothers were the most watched VHS at my house. Ghouls School was cheap, but loved a lot of the girls designs.

[@madeleinesmith3062]

Ghouls School was ICONIC. I never got to see the other two, but I remember Reluctant Werewolf from a trailer put onto the Special Features of the computer game Jinx at the Sphinx

[@insomniaczombie8942]

I love Ghoul school!!!!

[@kyoukotoshino5600]

They are pretty well designed ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@LaLloronaVT]

Ghoul school was awesome, I loved seeing Shaggy and Scooby actually being productive and having a life outside of solving mysteries

[@rdphoenix07]

If done right, I would love to see a special where Shaggy and Scooby get an invite to a class reunion at the Ghoul School and meet the girls again, and they;ll be a bit more grown up now, mainly Sabella, Winnie, Elsa and Fanty. I'd see Tanis being more of a teenager at this point. And they have to deal with the return of Revolta the Witch of the Web.

[@CharaxterSelext]

*Reads Title* Oh cool another Zombie Island video (3 seconds later) Wait… *RETURN* to Zombie Island?

[@genevievemccluer7503]

It took me like a solid three minutes.

[@pacificxplorer]

Genevieve McCluer Same

[@Chrispyy__]

i didn't even know they made another

[@brainstorm006]

Exactly my reaction

[@BroomPusher2024]

(Peter Parker scream goes here)

[@pajamapantsjack5874]

I remember watching this on a school day when I was sick and it got me into scooby doo. The Cartoon Network mystery incorporated continued this movie’s legacy imo

[@mikehawk4388]

1998 cat monsters: gross, creepy, horrible, monsterously powerful were-cats 2019 cat monsters: your weird cousin's $50 fursuit he made over the weekend & modeled after the 'CATS' trailer we all tried to repress memories of

[@wachajulya]

Cat Creatures, not where cats

[@J69user]

2019 Cat monsters related to Catwoman spin off film

[@jayceofspades7195]

Got this movie hoping it would be even more grim than the prequel. I was thinking maybe they'd be sailing out to sea and a storm comes and they get completely shipwrecked or something. The main villain would end up being the cat God itself referenced from before, with a burning desire to kill the gang for what they did to it's followers. At every night, the zombies of cats, and maybe even souls of the madame, her servant, and the ferry driver would try and drain the gang's lives so they could come back to life. The only way to be spared the cat God's wrath is to find and decipher a book from somewhere in their mansion that has an incantation to destroy the cat God once and for all. No. What we got instead was bs.

[@thesocietyofanimation4024]

I like your idea!

[@lexofpower2822]

Me too! Just flesh out how they would learn of needing to decipher an incantation or where they would look in the mansion, then you’re hired lol. But still it’s a cool idea.

[@FBHSswimmer2006]

Your idea is really good.

[@greyscaleanon7551]

Unfortunately, one of the producers that has the most control over the current run of Scooby Doo movies apparently has a mandate against having anything in them turn out to actually be supernatural. No clue why anyone would give a thumbs-up to making a sequel to Zombie Island of all movies with that rule in place.

[@sunsetlover123-y7c]

Holy sh*t this idea is amazing

[@Assassin_101-2]

Iove how you just casually say "Star Wars fans" like you're not afraid of death

[@lordteensie6156]

It's a funny jab to drop in so casually considering this is a video complaining about a subpar sequel 🤔

[@WarlordM]

@@lordteensie6156 pretty much an identical scenario.

[@cottonballs185]

That's because nobody's gonna kill you for liking a shitty movie, you've been drinking the kool-aid if you believe otherwise

[@geekydiy5323]

@@cottonballs185 is that quote about the Kool-Aid supposed to be a reference to Jim Jones?

[@LaLloronaVT]

A bunch of fucking nerds oh no what a nightmare lol (I'm Also a Star Wars fan but hey I'm calling it as it is)

[@cracktoon_powerscaling]

You need to see Over The Garden Wall or Infinity Train

[@RyanHollinger]

Garden Wall is possible in early 2020

[@BestCupid]

Just watched Over the Garden Wall due to another person recommending it and holy shit, it's amazing. If you havent seen it, I definitely recommend it

[@lonelywhale1548]

Infinity train definitely deserves more love

[@smithmanish]

@@RyanHollinger All episodes together are 1h 50 min, I've seen it countless times. It's also speculated to be an adaption of Dante Alighieri's Devine Comedy. Definitely worth the watch, and I'd love to hear your thoughts on it!

[@Trickpants]

@Xeonix I can do you one better - I'll report it

[@kandykorn4425]

The Mystery Inc show was pretty fantastic tho

[@cunty]

that was my favorite version of scooby doo. ACTUALLY dark. loved it.

[@dragonheart1236]

@@cunty It's my second favorite. I grew up with What's New Scooby Doo. Is Mystery Inc better? For sure, but I have a lot of nostalgia for Whats New

[@lunaf4863]

@@dragonheart1236 as someone who grew up on what's new Scooby Doo and watched mystery inc as a preteen it great if you like what's new definitely check out mystery inc you'll like it

[@dragonheart1236]

@@lunaf4863 I've seen both shows. Mystery Inc is definitely the superior when it comes to quality, but I have a soft spot for What's New

[@lunaf4863]

@@dragonheart1236 100% agree

[@coolgreenbug7551]

This movie felt like a normal scooby doo episode/movie that instead of using a classic monster or something they made up, they used Zombie Island

[@CinemaStix]

The last SD video on all the classic direct to video films was literally the best thing ever. So I’m glad to see more here! Even if it is to cover this movie...

[@Deoxys911]

Agreed. It's legitimately the only video on KZbin that's not a fairly short comedic video or music video that I go back to and rewatch every once in a while. It really never gets old, always bringing a smile to my face throughout.

[@jillianbotting6500]

“What’s New Scooby Doo?” was kinda my entire childhood, so seeing these movies back as an adult is always something interesting to see

[@curefestive1774]

What's New is definitely my favorite incarnation of the series, Mystery Incorporated is a close second. The art style, the monsters, the stories, the voices, Just everything about What's New was PERFECTO.

[@26muca07]

Cool Fact: Scooby's voice actor for Brazilian audiences just turned 100 and it's the oldest voice actor still working to this date. His first work was the first Scooby-Doo episode aired in Brazil, in 1969. He's also the brazilian voice for Popeye, Alf and Grim from Billy & Mandy.

[@TheBigAngryHobo]

Haven’t even finished the video yet but that original Scooby video of yours is why I’m a fan too. Crazy how one idea can change a life.

[@neddiego2570]

This should be renamed "Return to garbage island". Why the original 1998 zombie island is the best. 1. Super twisted plot which was unpredictable. 2. Hand drawn cartoon frames which are highly detailed, vivid & scary 😂. 3. Best Rock sound tracks 👍. 4. Real ghosts. 5. Nice intro & ending. 6. Nice flow of story with good work in little details. 7. Elements from real horror movies.

[@AlexxelA30303]

How dare they....how DARE they touch such a PRECIOUS memory of my childhood....those corporate fat cat monsters!

[@TheFlashParade]

The Mystery Inc series they created several years ago was amazing. It had an overarching storyline and lovecraftian themes as well as a good sense of humour. It only aired for 2 seasons but I loved it. Highly recommend:)

[@allday2828]

Netflix just added Zombie island , what's new scooby doo & Mystery inc and few days ago. I been binge watching for 2 days lol

[@KellyBCFan]

I was so sad when they took it off. It was more serious, but just as good. People thought I was watching an adult tv when I would talk about it lol

[@ArlanKels]

Scoobynatural is the best Scooby Doo cartoon of the last few years.

[@TheGreatDevlin]

What happened to the FBI investigator that was interested in Velma?

[@brainstorm006]

The gang went from fresh adults to teenagers. How? _This isn't the sequel!_

[@Dylan-xx2tk]

Well, to be fair, I think Scooby being _afraid_ of the cats actually makes sense. After what happened with the demonic cat people, I don't think he'd be so eager to jump into the fray and chase them around as he did earlier. It also mimics the ending of Zombie Island in where Scooby says "Yikes" after noticing the cats in front of him.

[@matthewwelsh294]

Did he was giving the cats milk at the end

[@JoelKellenProductions]

Man, this movie pissed me off so much. I remember watching this as a little kid, and the zombies (and the skeletons from Curse of the Black Pearl) were the only things that scared me to having nightmares. Fast forward to this little flick, and they undo everything that happened in the first one, as well as shit all over it. They decided that the whole thing was just another guy in a mask, made up some bullshit movie within a movie crap, and to top it all off, they pulled the rug out from under us one last time with that last cat creature and said "sike, it was really after all!", and they didn't even solve that movie! It failed on the core fundamentals of Scooby Doo, let alone movies in general!

[@gilded_lady]

Having seen Scoobynatural, I"d love to see a spin-off more adult oriented because it worked way better than it had any reason to. lol.

[@doubleasworkshop1692]

Scooby Doo Mystery Incorporated

[@lisaoreilly8380]

Wait a second. The true villains of "Scooby Doo on Zombie island" were immortal, energy-draining, vampiric were-cat people... Could the whole plot have been inspired by Stephen King's "Sleepwalkers" this entire time??

[@_V.Va_]

I wouldn't doubt it. But it seems RtZO completely shat all over that idea.

[@CodingAbroad]

When you compare the 2, it shows how lazy they've become in the animation style.

[@mandalorianhunter1]

God I loved zombie island so much. The song, the art style and the atmosphere. I can never get enough of the movie.

[@JackedThor-so]

For the longest time I thought I was a weirdo for still liking that movie into my late teens (I'm 18 now) and I'm SO glad that it has a cult following!

[@mandalorianhunter1]

@@JackedThor-so you shouldn't feel bad. It's a meta movie that took risks that paid off. Better then a lot of the movies that came before and after.

[@AndreNitroX]

I actually begged nostalgia critic to review the film this entire October. And he did it

[@mandalorianhunter1]

@@AndreNitroX cool

[@_V.Va_]

@@JackedThor-so Bro, I'm a geezer. I'm 20, and still love the movie, aside from the regular Scooby Doo stuff.

[@tavioka_pudding]

Have you considered ever watching Scooby Doo, Mystery Incorporated? The art style is different but the show has a main plot line & an origin story I think you'd like.

[@angwel_florakpop]

I agree with you. I loved the show it’s awesome

[@BugsyFoga]

It's pretty lame to know that both the Sequels for Zombie Island and 13th ghost decide to just retcon the existence of actual monsters.😑

[@kaijuguy19]

Sad part about the 13th ghost movie was that it originally did want real monsters there but WB were against it then they changed it so it was WB's fault there and were likely responsible for how Zombie Island 2 came out too.

[@lloydlandrum3040]

@Mr. Dewott75 My theory is because WB want to tap into the markets of country's that have rather strict laws on how the supernatural and ghosts and the like can be portrayed as yes some country's are strict in such laws

[@lloydlandrum3040]

@Mr. Dewott75 True that's a option aswell ,but I doubt they'd risk alienating a audience that grew up with a old series like the 13 ghosts of Scooby Doo or the Zombie island movie given these people might have kids themselves, unless they see the possible profits more then the money they lose from turning any older fans away and thus by making the movies that retcon the matters of supernatural and ghosts can easily be a choice to get easy cash by releasing the old series and movie in another country with the countries that have strict rules/laws on supernatural and ghosts aswell as the dead by reasoning that'' Oh they aren't really the dead or supernatural see these new movies show they are just something else.''

[@lloydlandrum3040]

@Mr. Dewott75 You clearly hadn't read all my reply I said I doubt they would unless they see a way to make more profit then what they'd lose...

[@ecthox-1mork909]

"Pretty lame" is for me putting it far too mildly - in my book, that should be legitimate grounds for filing a lawsuit. Making a sequel which is an embarrassing successor to the original is something that can be quietly ignored or derided, but the way this film suggests the monsters in the original might have been a Scooby Hoax the entire time is an outright abomination (seriously, the 'Scooby-Doo' franchise should take after 'Mystery Incorporated', the first live-action movie and the original 'Zombie Island' in finding clever ways to dial down or phase out that dated it-all-had-a-non-supernatural-explanation twist) . I'm shocked, disgusted and appalled that this film actually wound up this way. I honestly felt like a piece of my childhood had died when I read this film's ending on Wikipedia, and said piece of my childhood is only slipping between life and death while undergoing CPR, due to reading up on the sequel's canon discrepancies with the original which suggest it might be legitimately non-canon to the first film. WB had better either say officially that this sequel is non-canon to the original homevid movies, or make a third 'Zombie Island' film solely to retcon this film and/or re-confirm the original 'Zombie Island''s monsters were real.

[@PeacefulJoint]

I was confused at first remembering you made a video praising zombie Island. Then I reread it and realized they made a sequel. Glad I didn't even know lol.

[@cicel0184]

*cat witches

[@lordofskulls8888]

Fred loves the mystery machine almost as much as he loves traps.

[@niallreid7664]

Can't blame the man for having good taste. Fred and his traps lol.

[@adamlastnamenotmentioned6821]

The LOTR flute in the background sets a good mood for this video.

[@FoxyBoxing1]

Like everyone else in the know you should really watch Mystery Incorporated. Its legitimately good, carries the vibe of a Supernatural, Buffy or Twin Peaks with deep nods to horror films. The crew who made it were truly in love with the genre.

[@connornoiles2447]

Well Scooby did become scared of cats at the end of the orginal, seeing cat-werewolves would do that

[@matthewwelsh294]

Lol he was feeding the cats at the end of the original

[@misterjt961]

I like how the movie implies society as a whole just went "meh" to the idea of real zombies, chimeras, and eldritch cat gods capable of granting mortals eternal life. Personally I would've done the film as: a developer wants to build a resort on the island, gang goes back to warn them for once, developer is actually looking for the treasure which is why he's only building on the possible burial sites, SURPRISE cat people are still there because someone else found the idol and knew the story from the gang's adventures, hilarious chases and bitchin new soundtrack ft. DJ Khalid, idol gets destroyed, Freddy and shaggy make out.

[@Goodspringscourier]

It's so sad to see one of my favorite childhood movies ruined like this...

[@haillobster7154]

Like serial rapists/killers wishing to go to town on every single thing that moves.

[@MojoSojoJojo]

"Crazy Cat Bitches" is the best thing I've ever heard 🤣🤣🤣

[@urahara64360]

I actually do like mystery incorporated as the best incarnation of the franchise. I recommend it for it's cosmic horror

[@gerardomacias7370]

urahara64360 as well as mystery and giving the franchise some mythos and celebrating its legacy. As it wasn’t afraid to go full horror, people die in the last episode and it felt so hopeless.

[@kendallmoore4826]

In addition to all the pulp fantasy and horror film references, Harlan Ellison, and the clever crossovers with other HB series characters.

[@emmemttc]

I agree, but my problem is the people they caught. Many of it are really stupid such as the protester guy from university is going to ruin environment to save it, or the mom who tried to attack the gang cause velma accused her son. The overarching mystery is good, but many of the episodic mystery are just like wtf. The characters always appear again and each time they have a random character appear we already know they are the villain and their reasoning is just stupid.

[@WhaleManMan]

This movie has easily the worst Velma voice I have ever heard.

[@kaijuguy19]

I'm honestly more annoyed on how they made Velma look like a loon here then her voice.

[@stephaniewozny3852]

"Trying to ruin your childhood". Isn't everything nowadays?

[@renamon5658]

I haven't seen zombie island in 10 years.... I still remember the movie

[@stevangonzalez5908]

That's just how well made and memorable it was lol!

[@JackedThor-so]

Oh god, the cat people and the werewolf at the opening are straight up furries. 😐

[@Gruntvc]

Where are the Black Templars from Warhammer 40k when you need them!? "Avenge me brother!"

[@Terrak37]

Technically, this also chronologically takes place after Scooby-Doo and the Curse of the 13th Ghost, the movie that "concludes" the story from the 13 Ghosts of Scooby-Doo. From what I've read, the reason that the gang is retired from solving mysteries is because prior to the Curse of the 13th Ghost, they captured an innocent man and the sheriff forced them to retire.

[@IDV1995]

Return to Zombie Island was indeed a bad sequel. Also; while change can be good, the latest Star Wars trilogy is also bad. That's coming from a non-hardcore Star Wars fan.

[@charlesman8722]

Sooo basically you answered your own question about the Star Wars dig.

[@The_PokeSaurus]

15:14 "Suddenly Grew A Pair Of BALLS." That line just makes me laugh!

[@ToastyJunebugs]

How dare they tarnish the name of my favorite Scooby Movie with this trash!

[@Digitalfairy]

Darn right!

[@ReidGarwin]

You mentioned "terror time again" every hair stood up on my arm. Ugh fuck that movie was a masterpiece

[@nekromorg]

Huh, whaddaya know. So it is Nostalgia that makes me dislike the new Star Wars movies and not the fact that these movies ruin already established characters and plots, have almost no consistency and are written on a pretty much fan fiction like level? Well, thanks for clearing that up.

[@JackedThor-so]

Yeah, I really wish people would stop using that argument, it's super lazy and misses the point.

[@randomtwist]

Not to mention ruining the newly established characters as well. I've never been so disappointed in a character as I have been in Finn.

[@legendre007]

OMG. Mr. Hollinger, after you did your video on the direct-to-video movies, I was wondering when you would return to _Scooby-Doo_ .😍 But I was hoping the main focus of such a video would be the very clever recent series, _Scooby-Doo: Mystery Incorporated_ . I am curious what you think about the one over-arching mystery. 😯

[@JackedThor-so]

I still love that show, its PERFECT. I think its slowly gaining more of a following and it super deserves it.

[@shards-of-glass-man]

"recent? hasn't it been awh-" 2010-2013 no time stop we are going too fast

[@staceynainlab888]

the first movie was serious, the sequel was delirious

[@toonpacha2396]

You summed up exactly why I loved it because even as a kid I realized that this is the first time the gang came across creatures that aren’t animatronics or guys in costumes but real monsters

[@hawkticus_history_corner]

I liked Mystery Inc, thought it was a decent adaptation of the usual Scooby Doo formula. Havent seen anything beyond that.

[@blonded0532]

Those direct to video movies were my entire childhood. Especially that samurai one, can’t even count the amount of times I watched it as a little kid.

[@cinematicsterling6897]

how dare they do a sequel to zombie island and NOT bring back detective beau neville?

[@Sandstormer9]

To be fair, none of the other three films mentioned him either. In fact none of the four movies had much connection with one another. The closest form of continuity was that the gang accepted that witches, aliens & phantom viruses exist without going over the all monsters aren't real spiel routine as seen in Zombie Island. That's perhaps my only true complaint I had with the Zombie Island-Cyber Chase era. They themselves weren't embracing the shared universe idea like with the case with the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Would've been cool to see not only the gang continuing with their documentary series, but also keep in touch with the people they come across. Maybe if these movies came out now, the writers would've considered these things more. And I 100% agree with you, how on earth did they not hire an in-universe actor for detective Beau, did the writers of RTZI forgot about him? Loved the twist of him being an undercover detective. Because to not have a government official in the film would've raised questions. Like how on earth, the cat creatures were able to get away with their crimes without drawing suspicion from the local, state or federal authorities. Sooner or later, Simon, Lena & Jacque would've had a far harder time continuing their life style without the government going over to their remote island.

[@pacman5698]

THANK YOU for that intro. I can completely understand why some people wouldn't like stuff like the sequel trilogy of Star Wars going on right now or the She-Ra or Carmen Sandiego reboots on Netflix, but all this hubub and storms we see about how these products "RUINED" such and such or "DESTROYED" such and such forever are pretentious and way too overblown. None of the past said products are perfect, but, at most, they were series that at least tried to do something that didn't click with many people that clearly still have a lot of effort and thought put into them. Even if they seem misplaced to some people. But if there is anything that "RUINS YOUR CHILDHOOD" it's not past said movies or shows that were previously mentioned. It's stuff like this. They didn't even TRY with this one. I'd much take something that tries to break a mold and doesn't succeed than from something cheap and rushed out that doesn't seem to care about what it's doing other than being something to come and go and spend cash on. Trust me, stuff that you think "ruins your childhood" can be out there, but it's not what all those gifting channels are currently going on and on about like a broken record player. It's crap like Return to Zombie Island...

[@aldoramirez6621]

At this point lets just call it the forgotten movie

[@rogers.5]

Biggest problem for me was the recap and Velma denying the first one actually happened

[@somebrokecollegeguy]

Damn you Ryan. I was in the middle of writing a paper and saw this on my notifications. Now I feel compelled to watch it instead. DAMN YOU!

[@jessicajayes8326]

You hear the screaching of an owl(nope) You hear the wind begin to howl(eh) You know there're zombies on the prowl (hi there) And it's (not) Terror Time again!

[@SuperSwordman1]

I hated this. Partly because I wanted to hold Velma under water until the bubbles stopped.

[@SuperSwordman1]

@@JackedThor-so What? There's no reason for Velma to believe anything BUT something supernatural happened on that island the first time. And since that happened, there's no reason for her to doubt the chest of demons.

[@articusramos808]

@@SuperSwordman1 you can make her visit the entirety of the holloween world with the Gobblin king and she would still think it's fake. Bet a huge amount of money she's in a rahter strong form of denial.

[@Digitalfairy]

Yeah, I hated her too - the thing too many things CANNOT be explained scientifically. Morality for instance.

[@Numbuh8578]

@@SuperSwordman1 yea how can she not believe the chest of demons? Not like she was there to see it

[@SuperSwordman1]

@@Numbuh8578 No but they events of Zombie Island happened. And she saw THAT. If zombies and soul stealing cat people are real, why not something like the Chest of Demons?

[@Zachary_L]

Have been here since the original Scooby Doo video and haven't missed one since. Your work is honestly the best keep it up as I'll always be watching

[@RyanHollinger]

Thanks!

[@Kari166]

Ryan, you HAVE to do a video talking about Angel Heart! It's such a great, underrated film and nobody talks about it! If anyone can do the movie justice, it's you! If you ever considered it, of course. I don't want to sound like I'm forcing or pressuring you to do a video about it.

[@swgmoneyy]

best- zombie island (obvs), worst- any of the Scooby Doo Meets ones (boo brothers, batman, harlem globetrotters)

[@Drixenol86]

What’s with these Scooby movies retconning the Scooby franchises with real monsters?

[@merricksilverwolf5366]

The Faculty and now this? Whats next? The Buterfly Effect or the Hatched series? Keep up the great work !!

[@dandynoble2875]

I'm just waiting for the day Hana-Barbara and DC greenlight a Scooby Apocolypse animated movie.

[@tangroro]

Ah yes, the movie genuinely haunted my childhood, I even had to ask my mom to cover my eyes whenever I bypass the VHS in the store The scene where the villagers were forced into the river to drown and eaten by the crocodiles was the most shocking and terrifying thing I've ever watched as a kid

[@capnjackgallows3204]

Evidently you were a very sheltered kid , i hope you grew a backbone

[@MTGcowfish]

Thank you so much for this! Your first 4 direct to video discussion video is a masterpiece!

[@leah-marie5031]

Star wars sucks now tho and the fans have every right to be angry about it

[@haillobster7154]

And I, a non fan, fully stand by the hurt and angry fans of Star Wars, after the two giant middle fingers they received from the damnable, deplorable and despicable trinity of Kennedy, Abrams and Johnson. Give vent to your rage, my friend. Say Nein to Nine. ✊

[@SeekersLegacy]

Leah Milne Even though Force Awakens, Solo, and Rogue One weren’t bad movies by any means. Literally the only dud is Last Jedi. And most fans agree that Rise of Skywalker looks awesome.

[@leah-marie5031]

@@SeekersLegacy actually most fans will agree that Rise Of Skywalker will be shit and not many people are looking forward to it. Star wars is dead now.

[@billymurray3914]

I just want you to know you’re one of my favorite creators and I appreciate your videos

[@joegover9452]

My favorite scooby doo movies' Cyber Chase- with great nostalgia at the end Boo Brothers- With Rob Paulson as Shrieko Original zombie island Ghoul School- with cute Phantasma (RIP Russie Taylor) Alien Invaders-Shaggy finds love Witches Ghost-first appearence of the Hex Girls.

[@jasonbaber9915]

I didn't know they made a sequel

[@maria.whiddon]

Yup. If I can dl it I'll send you a copy

[@liizzset]

Yup. And wish I kinda did not see it. If you are a fan of the original, then prepare for a downgrade. And kinda run of the mill. Well in my opinion it was. It was just another Scooby-Doo episode to me. Up to you to see it if you want to.

[@emo565]

you said they don't really bring up the pirate treasure in zombie island. but they show the cat people attacking the pirate as there getting ready to bury the treasure and given that the cat people were pretty well off it seemed to imply that they took it. at least that's how interpreted it

[@merpo2806]

Let's hope that upcoming Scoob! movie is good.

[@haleydavis2674]

Your video on the OG Scooby-Doo movies was the reason I subbed to your channel. Zombie Island is my favorite Scooby-Doo movie and after watching the video I ended up renting all those movies and watched them for a massive nostalgia trip.

[@g0reg0yle37]

scooby-doo: return to zombie island wants to know your location

[@sirenofthesea7802]

I fucking love you man. I'm grateful for the fact KZbin will not boot you off, like so many other good KZbinrs. Please Ryan, never change.

[@dizzydoom4230]

Oh, of course I've got more going on than just Star Wars sucking. But it doesn't change it sucking.

[@WarlordM]

Seriously, way to make a whole section of your audience zone out with hypocrisy. It's basically the same situation as the one this whole video is about!

[@slsthewriter1299]

That whole scene where they recounted what happened in the OG movie really, really rubbed me the wrong way. The most notable detail was that it really tried to hammer in that the gang are teenagers?? When no?? They were adults in the first movie. They had legit JOBS. Now I love this era of movies. Don't love them more than the 90s/early 2000s movies, because I think those older movies have the charm that I really, really love and want from this franchise, but these movies are fun. They're made in earnest, and they are charming in their own ways. But OH MY GOD. They keep wanting to have the gang be teenagers. And, okay, yeah, the original show had them be teenagers, but then again it was never truly explicit in their ages. Hence why there's so many incarnations of them as young adults. I just. It's so weird to me that they keep hammering the age. I dunno why but it does. ;_;

[@joshua127399]

That jab at star wars fans at the beginning, love it.

[@mariodobrev3105]

Maybe the black cat creature is Simone, Lena and Jacques, who want revenge on the gang for ruining their life draining ceremony in the 1st movie. And maybe the cats revived them and turn them into that black cat creature, because the cats had glowing eyes in the end of the 1st movie.

[@Rammkommando]

they do know, we are perfectly fine with them being Adults right? hell when i was growing up i thought they were twenties at most watching the original cartoon