SILICONE ANTIFOULING: How did it hold after 2 years? (Watch before applying!)

[@phillipcorey2182]

Couldn't agree more. I have been using SilicOne on our 54 footer for 5 years and have no regrets. Easy to maintain and cost effective.

[@uwe.koehler]

Really great to get your first hand experience with this class of product. Following the manufacturer's instructions is always a good idea 😉

[@cgeorge6250]

Yes!! This is what we have seen searching for!! Thank you for sharing the info.👍👍

[@WillN2Go1]

Terrific information. Thanks. In a year or two when my bi-weekly scuba scrubber tells me I need to haul out and repaint, I'll probably use this.

[@dholtz3]

Great video! Love to hear how it works in the Great Lakes.

[@paulvlug812]

Cool, I used silic 1 on my aluminium charter fishing boat, yes very pleased, after 12 months a few spots needed repairs which was easy to do, in 12 more months I will do the total bottom with one coat.

[@Tomm9y]

I'm tempted to change mine next time, especially as I keep it in the water for only a few weeks at a time. Thanks for the infomative report.

[@dyrectory_com]

Ryan, you're so helpful and I really appreciate your thoroughness in the knowledge you share! Thank you! 👍🏼

[@tammy6992]

That’ll be good to see you in the great lakes

[@marzdens6051]

Great update on the product, seems to be working well. I may go that route next time around Thank you

[@brownnoise357]

Hi there. I like the look of that very much. For your propeller, have a think about painting it with aerosol Cold Zinc, but do not get the Marine one like Pettit's, which is identical to ordinary Cold Zinc Gal arising Spray, about 8 times more expensive due that dreaded Word "Marine" and you can get it in Handlers. Here in UK, I've seen it for around 8 pounds a large tin. Patently putting 3 coats on, and it should work as antifouling for about 18 months, depending on the water the boat is in. Major Bonus Point, it also works as an additional Saxrificial Anode ! I think the material is actually a blend of Aluminium and Zinc. Plus when you haul out, just wash and rub down, then when dry, spray more coats on . I've checked it out on several boating forums, and a fair number of people say it is that good, they won't consider using anything else, withnsome using it for over 10 years. Extra Anode Protection ? Heck I'll haul out annually to check Anodes and annual Service and check over anyway. Plus you won't have to buy extra to do the prop . tbh, I'll paintbthe bronze though hulls and bow Thruster with it anyway. Best Wishes, and thanks for the look see at that stuff. impressive. Best Wishes. Bob. 👍🙂

[@timp.9582]

Painted a few super tankers with Hempel X7. Expensive evolution

[@MrGeoMarin]

Thanx a lot - very informative and useful!

[@user-zo6xg8bx4l]

I ALWAYS enjoy and find informative the videos you two make!! Fair winds!!!

[@paulyaron2410]

Ryan - you mentioned the Hempel silicone paint is subject to abrasion, yet then discussed apply to the prop, a very abrasive area. I have been very impressed with the performance of propspeed a silicone polymer. Look forward to learning what you applied to the Prop.

[@garry5608]

We tried the same paint this year and it’s been amazing! We’re in a high fouling area and we just get a tiny bit of fine green weed around the waterline, which easily wipes off. The boats around us have the toxic stuff and they’re always fouled up. We won’t be going back to the toxic stuff! It’s better for the sea and makes us faster too.

[@waynemckee9170]

Great Lakes! You must go to the North Channel…..top cruising ground in the World! ( yes I’m Canadian) fresh clean water sailing.

[@sarahkohlmd984]

So happy to learn that you had success. I’d be interested to learn about your Great Lakes experience as they often use different products on boats than ones in salt water. It’d be nice to have a product which works both places, less toxic and easier care for bottom of boat (simple wiping)

[@RyanSophieSailing]

Thats a chemical issue, but because this does not have biocied in it should work fine

[@geoffrey4513]

Interesting. Bless you for using greener products, Ryan. Taking note for the day I get my own boat 😅

[@badcaptainsailing]

Another great video. Interestingly enough, I am applying Temple Silic One to my Hylas 46 next week. I am looking forward to the same results.

[@Grand-paws]

Looking forward to you coming to the great lakes.

[@RyanSophieSailing]

Gonna be fun?

[@goofy4birds]

awesome, love it when share maintenance and tech tips

[@franckvandiest2829]

Thanks Ryan! Going to apply it too with peace of mind now. :-)

[@jsveb5373]

Nice review. Worth considering. 🙏

[@RyanSophieSailing]

Sure is

[@EricSmith-lf6cz]

I always enjoy Ryan's technical reviews. It is good to hear about a product that actually performs as promised. (Did Ryan let some future plans slip out? I am not a Patron so this is the first I heard about travel to the Great Lakes. That should be a VERY interesting series of videos. )

[@RyanSophieSailing]

Hehehe, yes, you paid attention! ;)

[@dutchglobetrotter4513]

Very informative video, I heard about this paint just never met anyone that had it applied.

[@789train]

hi ryan, thanks for great videos. when you recoat the bottom with silicone, do you have to use the primer, tie and topcoat again, or can you just add topcoat? do you have to sand all the old stuff off? i have pettit trinidad hard bottom paint that has not been in the water yet. do to unfortunate circumstances this paint has gone beyond its splash time and has to be sanded and reapplied . maybe i could put silicone over it ?

[@ToddBryantsr]

Great video and update! Thank you! Can the paint be applied using a sprayer? Would you recommend this? Would it provide any benefits?

[@jamesgordon2289]

Thanks Ryan, interesting and informative. great Vid as always

[@seatopiascuba3540]

Super great video! Keep the informative information coming.

[@allenmayers3642]

Should mention what waters the boat was in, salt, fresh, temperate, tropic ... etc.

[@peterfrebold]

.... was just recently wondering how your bottom paint was holding out and if it worked as well as you were told it would .... seems like you are giving 5 star rating of success all around .... thx for the update .... thx for sharing .. as always .. never stop dreaming, just dream bigger .. have fun be safe, save our oceans ....

[@svZigZag]

Hi Ryan, Hi Sophie! Since you are heading to the Great Lakes this summer, I highly recommend you consider traveling through the Trent Severn Waterway. Assuming you have shoal draft of well under 6ft. We took our Jeanneau 49ds “SV Zig Zag” through westbound last summer and had an awesome trip. We are currently wintering over in Kingston NY on the lower Hudson River. We’ll be heading to New England this summer season and then Southbound in 2024.

[@manfredgrobel2068]

SilicOne worked fine on the saildrive. No growth, but it did not stick on the propeller. After a few weeks parts were altesdy gone. Now I use Jotun. Seems to work much better for the propeller.

[@oscarschmitt216]

Kia Ora, thank you very much for this very interesting video. Wish you alle the best cheers Siegmar

[@BJ-hs2sl]

I gave my boat the full treatment of SilicOne at the start of last season (2024) . Sand blast, Hempel epoxy primer, tie coat and top coat all exactly as the spec says with times and temperatures all correct. At the end of the season I can say that it has worked almost perfectly. There were 3 small (hand size) parches where the top coat and tie coat had peeled. I am worried that the instructions give no indication of abrading the epoxy before the tie coat. I contacted the agents before application and they said it was "wet on wet" application. I gave special attention to the time and temperature between coats and complied with that. (no sanding) I am worried that they may have omitted the instruction to sand the epoxy before the tie coat in the instruction leaflet. Incidentally I gave the propeller the same treatment and it has adhered perfectly! Did you sand your primer epoxy?

[@philippeaudet5997]

Fantastic! Great review and helpful.

[@donfults1]

Thanks Ryan!!! Love your tech talks!

[@brownnoise357]

PS to below. That 96% Zinc Cold Galvanising Paint, seems perfect for keeping galvanised anchors in tip top condition as well. I was going to go with a 25kg Rocna, but the same weight Mantus 2 is two-thirds the price at the moment, and it definitely fits Jeanneau the SO 440 bowsprit abchor roller very well. Cheers. Bob.

[@markbailey6051]

Will the new paint stick to the last paint? When not in use, cover the propeller with a canvas bag to stop growth.

[@i1uvpreppyxo887]

Great video. I'm planning to make the change but my travelift operator has expressed his concerns about the front anf style slings slipping. What did your guys do to minimise that?

[@longglide1176]

Thanks for the excellent video! In the description when you say you scraped the hull bare, did you leave the epoxy barrier coat or did you take it all the way down to the original gel coat?

[@jeffbeitz6141]

Are you guys doing the Loop next season? Georgian Bay is stunning! 30,000 island within 125 miles of the eastern shore

[@thomsonsails]

When you finally got some barnacles did they come off easily, without a scraper?

[@frosty2424cmp]

Thank you, very helpful, now wondering how to get it here in Canada! Welcome to Canada in advance! Maybe we might cross paths I am setting sail from Lake Huron and down the Erie Canal in May. Safe travels!

[@Sailingengineer74]

I do recommend Jotun Megayacht , Hempel Globic etc. These are 90 months shipantifoulings, they last as expected, no whatsoever marine growth. Cost maybe a little higher. May be painted in cold weathers...simple to apply. In all, these paints are toxic but a far more simple solution in the end. More sustainable than fancy 2yr ecopaints. Think about it, no haul out for 5-7years and a clean bottom. Anodes may be replaced under water, bottom inspected easily... I never go back to the leisure market hokuspokus paints 😅

[@Sailingengineer74]

@Post Toasty Just ast your boatyard , nearest Jotun dealer etc These paints are only sold to shipyards, professional use, bigger boatyards. Your boatyard is a good place to begin. As these are only used under superyachts and ships. As these paimts arent approved for DIY.

[@donkinzer5718]

Thanks for the informative video. It sounds like Ryan is saying "silicon" but I'm sure he meant "silicone" - they are two very different things (and pronounced differently)..

[@Neptune730]

Thanks you saved me from having to say the same thing.

[@brownnoise357]

.I think there's a bit of a clue in the name Silic 1 One ? Apparently you can make home made, with half a tube of Silicone, mixed with an equal volume of Acetone and thoroughly mixed together. Does sound a bit too easy to screw up then have a nightmare removing it tbh. 🤔 Just for giggles, I might try it in patches of different types on the bottom of an Aluminum RIB. I'm a bit hooked on Testing stuff out. My Curiosity is outdoing Cats so far. 🙂👍

[@DStrayCat69]

How would you apply it to a "Bow Thruster"??? Thanks 🙂

[@earthstick]

I just antifouled my prop with this. Hasn't gone in yet but it's a bit wavey now, not smooth. I don't know if this will affect the efficiency of the prop. I put it on because I got barnacles last year and people told me they ruin the efficiency, I hope I have not ruined it by having a wavey surface to the prop.

[@mini752]

So… what if it DOESN’T work that great? I want to try it, but what do they say about getting it off and using any other coating ever again? Are you stuck with it forever?

[@RyanSophieSailing]

It’s just like with traditional anti-fouling. If you want to try something else (copper coat for example), you have to scrape it all off and start over. We did it when we switched over to silicone based, which is not super fun, but also not a giant hassle.

[@garry5608]

They also sell a removal liquid to make it easier. Have no experience if this tho

[@rd9028]

Good job 👍

[@kriswaelput]

And is the silicone not blasted off when they high pressure clean it in the crane ?

[@manfredgrobel2068]

I tested Silic One on my prop and found it did not hold very long. After just a few days parts got loose. But I had painted also the saildrive and there it worked pretty well. Still slippery after 2 years.

[@earthstick]

When you painted the prop with it, did you achieve a smooth surface, or did it have brush strokes and waviness?

[@sailorsam6494]

I wonder were the cilcon goes, In the end?

[@WidleyWesident]

Interesting to hear such positive thoughts on silicone antifouling. Nearly tempting but my boatyard has already announced that they won’t lift or handle any boat with silicone antifouling. Why? Not sure but they are unyielding.

[@petergreen3381]

Because slings on crane or hoist cannot grip properly and risk of boat being dropped is dramatically increased. Additionally slings can abrade the paint easily leading to claims from owners for remedial work.

[@mymobile5014]

Excellent, I've just doe my keel from the base up and unhappy with the results. I may try this next time. If you have forward scanning sonar I'd love to see what you think of that?

[@RyanSophieSailing]

We don’t have a forward scanning sonar, but would love to try for sure!

[@jimwinkelbauer2772]

As I am also on the great lakes (Erie), I am very interested on the performance in fresh water of this bottom treatment... Will be following

[@RyanSophieSailing]

Come say hi when we take the canal and you can check it out by yourself! ;)

[@jimwinkelbauer2772]

@@RyanSophieSailing will be keeping up with your travels, I am in Erie, pa, so you'll be going right by.

[@m.hardijufri4401]

thanks for the knowledge

[@billjeffery2419]

great lakes!!!!

[@JakobEngl]

Great Video !

[@justingeturgun]

To bad you can’t get this in the USA. Just worked on a boat that has this. This stuff is amazing

[@guydauderman1645]

When you mentioned you were going to be in the Great Lakes did you mean the Great Lakes (Lake Michigan, Huron & Superior) around Michigan?

[@ashannon38]

Let me know what it looks like after a month in the harbor at Cartagena.

[@brownnoise357]

Hi Ryan. I just watched your original Silic One video, and you put it on with original antifouling under it, with three top coats. Are you saying it is better to put it onto the surface of the Hull (better for me, as .I'll be getting a new boat God willing), or the Agent doing the Commissioning does their usual Hard Antifouling, which would probably be a good base otherwise, as yours Silic one application appears to be doing well. 👍 In Addition, I've found out more about the Cold Zinc Calvanising materials available, and one type in particular (various Brands) appears very promising. At 96% Zinc, you can get it for around 24 pounds for a 1 kilo Tin, it is mixed with a silicon binder, and doesn't need mixing in the Tin ! appliable with Brush or roller, each coat is over 1mm thick. Zinc too is a non Toxic Material ! tbh, I'm very tempted to try it as an antifoul with say 4 coats , which will also be a giant anode for the Boat. Maybe the fixed Zincs would never wear out ? Each haulout, just wash, dry, light fine grade scrub, and slap on more Coats ? 10 tins I reckon will do a 44 ft boat easy, with lots of tins left over. Think it's worth the experiment as the first antifouling on a new hull, plus twin rudders, to see what happens ? Best Wishes and Fair Winds. Bob. 🤔🙂👍

[@mr.e7022]

Any United States distributors?

[@MrBobVick]

Ryan nice update, but we watch this channel for Sophie. So you all are going to sail the great lakes?

[@miked1102]

Did you say the Great Lakes? Hope you are planning to come up to the North Channel. We have been cruising the North Channel for 34 years and would love to meet you up here. We moved to the North Channel area for the cruising. We also have a Beneteau 40 which you inspired us to purchase.

[@ronthor5621]

Do you know if it will rub off when loading it on a trailer? I don’t stay in the ocean for more than 2 months

[@Asmundlind]

Ryan, how hard is the silicon anti fouling compared to regular one, and does it color off the same way? That’s a real bummer when doing something near the boat in the water or diving to inspect it/ brush of log etc, coloring sticks to everything :(:(

[@user-pf5xq3lq8i]

Did the boatyard slings rub it off like the snubber did?

[@RyanSophieSailing]

No... the subber has taken about 2 years to do that work

[@MrCrabbing]

I wonder if it would be ok on a steel boat

[@Jac_light]

Propspeed for your prop?

[@dasielmolina4868]

Hi Ryan, during the time that you had your paint where have you been cruising? And have you found it worked better in some areas better than others. I am about to paint my bottom too and would like an alternative to bioside antifouling. I have been considering Copper coat.

[@larslind1815]

very helpful review - I assume you spend most of the time with the boat in warmer waters during the period with this antifoul applied ? having seen this I am considering trying it our here in Dubai, United Arab Emirates on my 2008 Beneteau Oceanis 40 ... BTW have installed 48v 15kwh lithium house battery bank and 48v 4kw alternator on the engine ... can now run two a/c units onboard overnight from batteries only ... cool and silent ;-)

[@RyanSophieSailing]

Thats cool Lars (in more ways than one). Yes... the boat was generally in the warmer atlantic waters

[@26N80W]

Would be helpful to know where you are using your boat. Tropical waters?

[@RyanSophieSailing]

Correct

[@jimguy08]

Great Lakes, you say?????

[@gratitude757]

We‘ll rebuild Gratitude’s bottoms this autumn. After stripping her down to the gelcoat I want to apply 3 layers of 2 part epoxy barrier coat / primer (Interprotect) for maximum protection. Will the Hempel primer stick to another epoxy primer? Then I might give it a go and not use the Seajet 39 I‘ve been planning with. 👍

[@RyanSophieSailing]

No, I think you need to apply the recommended primer and tie coat for it to stick… I wouldn’t try it as it could result in having to redo everything, as was the case with our friends who didn’t follow the application recommendations

[@spaRTan3246]

@@RyanSophieSailing Yeah - I‘ll use Hempel’s High Protect II instead of the Interprotect. It‘s more or less the same stuff. Right now I‘m waiting for an answer from Hempel to get my plan approved… 😉👍

[@Cheers_Warren]

Hempel products not readily available in USA but sounds good stuff. What is it like on a seasonal boat out of water 6 months of year? A simple 'dri-diver' would be great for removing growth in cold waters. Cheers Warren

[@RyanSophieSailing]

I realized this when I started looking a few weeks ago but I think thats going to be changing in the future.

[@ryanwyatt6135]

what happens say after 5 yrs or do it's getting heavy from antifoul how you getting this stuff off

[@joejoemcgee]

How is the weight compared to Copper? Is there much difference?

[@mcouture8169]

Prior to applying your primer and silicon, you and Sophie spent days sanding the hull. In the photo shown of the peeling silicon, it doesn't appear as though your friends pre-sanded their hull. Do you know if they did so? By not means am I certain that this is the case, but I am curious. Many thanks for another wonderful video!

[@RyanSophieSailing]

Yes, they did…. But they waited too long between coats, which resulted in the peeling :/

[@ChasingContours]

Has anyone tried this vs Coppercoat for a long term cruising boat?

[@steventrostle1825]

THANKS

[@sailingfabule1805]

Hi Sophie and Ryan, Would you recommend it for an aluminum boat please? We have a Boréal 47.2 and I was thinking about that for our next antifooling. Thanks you in advance for your advice. Salutations de Tréguier Yan

[@bobbiejay2085]

What about wraps?

[@rucanito1]

Hi Ryan, I wouldn’t recommend you using silic one in the propeller. I applied it three years ago (I am using silic one since 2017) and it didn’t work. It seems that Spinning speed of the propeller is too much for it. I have experienced waiting for three years with the boat in the water, and it’s too much time. From now on, my idea is houling every two years with layer renewal, and a “half” houling in the firs year for just a pressure water cleaning, as some grass growth van be expected. Fair winds!

[@RyanSophieSailing]

Good feedback, thanks.

[@dougmegcarlson7596]

After binge watching your channel we came across this episode.. very interested in doing this on our Catamaran. This may have been asked previously, apologies if so, is this product hard to obtain in the US?

[@RyanSophieSailing]

We have been in touch with Hempel on the very same subject, because we will need to get our hands on the paint as we reapply a coat in the spring. We think they will (it would be a shame for them not to accelerate distribution in the US, as a lot of people are interested in the product!)

[@dougmegcarlson7596]

@@RyanSophieSailing WOW! Thank you for the speedy reply! Have a great day.

[@boazjoe1]

Great Lakes?! I am feeling a meet and greet coming on and makes me tingle. (creepy, huh)

[@pontoonrob7948]

Great Lakes? If you make it to Traverse City or Leelanau county reach out.

[@redwood1957]

hows it holding up in Aug 2024

[@nealgrant7727]

Nice 👍

[@tartansailor]

The Great Lakes are fresh water as well as colder than the oceans you have been to. There is less growth in this case so it is not a good reference for comparison. However it will be a good endurance test. Are you passing by the Hudson River or the St-Lawrence? Cheers

[@RyanSophieSailing]

Gonna do both... Hudson up and the river back

[@tartansailor]

@@RyanSophieSailing I am in the Chesapeake bay in September, if passing by I would love to salute you, cheers

[@IBWhisk]

If you guys are coming to the great lakes, I hope you do a Chicago fan meet-up! There's a big sailing community here.

[@RyanSophieSailing]

Hi sam.Sam.. won't make it to chi town with the best but we will be in iowa most the winter. Could probably do a meetuo in Chicago if enough people were interested.

[@IBWhisk]

@@RyanSophieSailing please keep us updated on any Midwest fan meetups! Safe travels to you both.

[@heatherhodge1590]

@@RyanSophieSailing you've got quite a following on the Great Lakes, so I'm sure you'd get plenty for a meet-up. If you make it down to Milwaukee or Kenosha, that would be amazing!

[@patighayereagbonkpolor1156]

Hi there, I found a firm called "Finsulate" on the internet. they have an antifoulingwrap, on wich they give five years garantie. The founder of this firm had mainly the invironment in mind when he looked for an alternatif for chemical antifouling. Maybe something for you to explore

[@pereugenkristiansen6324]

What is the brand of the manufacturer of your bottom paint?f

[@danieljackson654]

Wonderful

[@DeVirumEtMachina]

Nice.

[@stevelawrie9115]

This sounds amazing. I have often worried about how these poisons were hurting our environment. I am a curious what anodes do.

[@gryan3682]

What’s your thoughts on copper coating ?

[@RyanSophieSailing]

I don’t like how it looks :( and everyone we know who applied it have had tons of problems with the applications. But that’s second hand info, so do it with it what you please :)

[@rb239rtr]

You said "Great Lakes"?

[@RyanSophieSailing]

Sure did ;)