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[@duzer]

For the thousandth time, no, zip ties would not have solved the issue. I've been on enough adventures to know that it wasn't a smart idea to jerry rig his rack, only for it to fail further down the road and put us in a more perilous situation. If we were in the middle of a 1,000 mile adventure with all the time in the world, we woulda tried harder to fix it, but we were on a very limited timeline and decided that the best move was to go back to Moab. Thank you for all your input and suggestions on how to fix the rack.

[@RuggedRunnerOverland]

It's okay Ryan, not everyone wants to try to get away with redneck engineering...sometimes it works, sometimes it makes things worse. 😅 Was a major bummer though, looks like you all had an epic trip planned out with stunning scenery. Hopefully you guys will try again sometime soon. 👍

[@longrider42]

Um, Ryan, I could have fixed that problem with Zip Ties. Its not rocket science :)

[@MaShcode]

Yea w/ a few gorilla tape wrapped tortillas for extra support 🦍 🌯🤣😂

[@EndUser-yu7gg]

noise is so you let animals know you're coming ... =D

[@jasonurroz570]

I came here to say, "What happened to the zip ties, fishing line, and half roll of duct tape wrapped around your toothpaste?" LOL.

[@hemaccabe4292]

I really like when you show these disaster videos. When amateurs like me try and follow your example, we get into all sorts of fixes. It would be easy to say something like, "Well Ryans a pro, this just isn't for us." Seeing things go wrong for you too makes me realize we all have whammies and we just have to sigh and hope things will be better next time.

[@Gigis1111]

I agree. I'm also into D.I.Y channels and I completely stopped following the "perfect" channels and stick to those "shit, look what I did and how I fixed it" channels. Example of the latter is Laura Kampf who, just like Ryan, keeps on smiling when it all goes wrong. Learning from mistakes is the way to go, even if it was someone else.

[@hemaccabe4292]

@@Gigis1111 Have a Happy Passover!

[@stewheart]

"some people live and learn... I just live" - great quote!

[@duzer]

😂😂😂

[@istvanszabo3229]

It's actually a t-shirt worthy quote❗️👈😄

[@omare_biketonature]

Thise is what i have learned as bike mechanic who bikepacks: Thread lock (locktite 242 or 271) can prevent screws from coming loose on bumpy terrain or using different specific anti-vibration knots, you can also use doble knots. Of course you should check tightness preferably with a torque wrench (to not over tight)and having a few extra screws can save the ride. Cheers from your amigo catracho!

[@duzer]

That’s a great idea!

[@HealthvsWealth4me]

Hello Ryan. Thank you for this video. Although I am not an adventure type cyclist, I do some small, overnight camping trips on my gravel bike. I have a basic aluminum rear rack like you held up in this video (its 20 yrs old). At my age (58), I've really learned to keep things basic. One thing I tried to avoid is "plastic" parts and items with too many adjustment points. In the automotive world, they break down after many years causing involved an expensive repairs. As far as weight bearing, it's best to stick with simple, all metal designs. So... This video helps to reaffirm my thoughts on these things. Thanks again for all you record and upload for us.

[@stevewheeler1575]

Thank you for allowing me to "ride" along with you on the beauty that is Moab!

[@duzer]

Thanks for joining ;)

[@calebquimby]

I like how you included this clip after asking how it was to run back and get the camera! Had no idea you had to run back as far as you do. i get tired having to run back as much as I do. Most the time I want to enjoy the ride and stay on the bike. However these shots really do make the video 100X better! Keep up the good Vibes!

[@duzer]

The distance changes for these types of shots, this was a long one ;) and I agree, these kinds of shots are crucial to creating a dynamic video

[@Incorruptus1]

Awww! You two deserve another chance!

[@JimAdventures...]

I have the same rack on my MTB and did test ride it for a week before trying the Trans Virginia Valley route last year. My mistake was not shifting through all the climbing gears prior to taking on some big climbs. The way I mounted the rack moved my shift cable just enough when I couldn’t get into my 46/51 gears. This killed my legs on the first day. I was able to make an adjustment in camp that night, but couldn’t quite get the 51 gear to work all the time. So in addition to your lesson- make sure all your gears work. Unless you ride a 600x 😊.

[@totalcontrol871]

Hey Duzer just thought I'd chime in with a quick fix that could work if doubling back isn't an option. First: that " nylon plastic" the bracket is made out of while strong overall it does have a propensity to scratch and lose detail in its design like a thread for screws. When first noticing the slippage, use rubber patch (and perhaps even the glue) for makeshift grip. 2nd, if that doesn't stop the slipping and the bracket breaks like it did, then sacrifice the drawstring of one of your packing sacks. It could work as paracord for lashing down the bracket to the frame. It might rattle and make for a noisy ride, but it will get you to your destination. Glad everyone was safe.

[@dudeonbike800]

I thought the beginning looked familiar. Rode it in '92 when a German we met came along. He wheelied from town the WHOLE way to the beginning of Amasa Back, which is approximately 10 miles. Unreal. Best wheelie rider I've ever seen in person.

[@duzer]

Wow!! That’s insane!! I need to up my wheelie game ;)

[@dudeonbike800]

@@duzer Same here. I can wheelie and ride a unicycle, but cannot for the life of me ride a wheelie downhill. Too much fear of falling on my butt! But as they say, "practice makes perfect!" Better get on it...

[@imajez1]

Was it Hans Rey? 😁

[@KookaburraComedyHour]

The Achilles heel of the Aero rack has finally been confirmed. I always wondered about the reliability of the webbing strap, but never once did I think about the worm gear getting stripped. Now, please excuse me while go to the garage and give my Tubus rack and Ortlieb panniers a big hug and apologize for my wandering eyes. 😂

[@duzer]

Haha!! Sometimes the simple pieces of equipment are the best

[@paulcardsfan]

MY AERO rack broke while on a month bike tour across Minnesota to Canada luckily we camped at a nice place were the owner had a bolt 🔩 to fix it . Plus wildfires from Canada started coming our way the smoke was really bad we were ready to call off the bike tour but when we woke up in the morning 🌄 the winds shifted . Ended up, having a great ride the rest of the trip only ran into one bear and a moose 🫎 . Always enjoy your Videos. Well done . 👏

[@tedbellWRV]

When I purchased my full-suspension fat tire bike, the vender tried to sell me the Aeroe Rack. As an engineer, the Aeroe rack looked a little sketchy to me. Lots of weight cantilevered on the support arms. So instead, I opted for the Old Man Mountain Divide Fat Rack, that I installed on the rear swing arm of my bike. This rack also comes in a "regular" tire width version too. It mounts with or without eyelets, and/or to a quick-release axle or a thru-axle. My bike has a thru axle, so I bought a Robert Axle Project thru axle to facilitate the mounting. This resulted in a super solid rack mount. Only issue is removing the rear tire does require removing a few parts where the rack attaches to the special thru axle ends. Not hard, but you need to keep track of a couple of spacers and bolts. Pluses for the OMM Divide Rack are that: 1) it has proven to be bomb proof 2) it fits any frame - with eyelets, or without eyelets (attaches to the axle and the frame stays) 3) the Divide is very adjustable. I installed it low and rearward to stay clear of the seat when the rear suspension compresses fully 4) can be mounted very low, for a low center of gravity 5) rated weight limit of 70 lbs vs 35 lbs for the Aeroe rack 6) allows the thin, pliable, plastic "fenders" to be mounted under the rack as a splash guard, if you like 7) Old Man Mountain provides excellent pre-sale and after-sale support - to help the customer figure out how to mount the rack and buy a fit kit if necessary.

[@duzer]

This sounds great, I’m gonna look into it. Thank you for spelling this out

[@PeacefulRallyCar-pw3cs]

Imho it makes sense to put the load on the axle. The bumps are straight through with no suspension. The seat stay is not intended for bending force midspan. And, it seems to me the bike should have racks designed into it from the start.

[@jedimattie]

I second tedbell's recommendation for an OMM. They are fantastic and bombproof. I've used the Divide rack for quite some time and nothing bad to say about it. As he points out, it does take a bit more time to get the rear wheel off, but how often do you need to do that in the wild?

[@andrewhay8118]

Hey Ryan, I love the Aero rack on my priority 600x and always carry spare webbing attachments . Glad you got home safe

[@duzer]

Extra webbing is key!

[@johnarcher8090]

I totally agree with the noise of the off road vehicles.

[@duzer]

They suck so bad

[@RBradenG]

I feel you Ryan- I also recently did my own bikepacking ride that involved a rack failure (entirely my fault, something I invented) that resulted in a fractured bone. It was a fun ride (even after the crash), I finished the ride on my own power, and I'll be recovered soon. Thanks for the video!

[@duzer]

Oh bummer, I’m glad that you weren’t seriously hurt. Way to tough it out

[@DL-iq5zo]

I have never been out there but the landscape looked amazing. I can imagine the disappointment of having to turn back. It would be especially wonderful if you guys are able to get together again and complete this adventure.

[@duzer]

It’s an incredible place!!!

[@twowheelsintokyo7039]

When I was younger, I happened to meet an Army engineer. He was formerly a colonel, and served in the Korean war. He was known by the neighbors as "The Wizard" because there was nothing he couldn't make or fix. He was like Captain Cyrus Harding in the old book "The Mysterious Island." I learned a lot from him, and these things have come in handy, especially when going out in the woods. One of the most useful things you can take with you, and which are great for many mechanical difficulties, are straps of rubber, which can be used to tie, to bind, to stop bleeding, and to fix or secure lots and lots of things. If you don't have a rubber strap, a spare tube and a pocket knife will provide what you need. I've done some offloading in old 4x4's in the desert, and suffered a few breakdowns, but have always gotten back to civilization. I remember breaking a pinion gear and locking up a rear differential, but being able to remove the broken parts and pull myself home with the front diff. I remember breaking a cotter key on the engine crankshaft and losing the harmonic balancer and main engine pulley (which runs the water pump and alternator), and using a cut off section of a tin can and a rock to beat the balancer and pulley back on, which got me the 60 miles I needed to cross to get back to civilization. Carry sensible spares and universal tools, and when catastrophe strikes, sit down and use your head. In the case of the broken rack, some rubber straps, properly used, would have kept the bike going.

[@duzer]

Wow, that guy sounds amazing. I love people like that…wish he coulda come out from behind a rock to help us

[@twowheelsintokyo7039]

@@duzer You ought to come here to Japan. Great roads, great trails, great scenery, and great food. And the people are great too.

[@harrygrimley4352]

Ya. Stuff happens 😂. Great adventure still. Thanks for sharing this with us.

[@duzer]

It does indeed. Thanks for watching!

[@keepingtherubberdown5715]

Well the nice thing is Areoe has great customer service. We had a rack break while on the Colorado trail. And I sent them images of the issue after the trip and they sent replacements for free. Sorry a short trip but, you still got out, saw the red rocks and guess what? It was still an adventure!

[@duzer]

Exactly! We still had a great time!

[@rabh6746]

What a real bummer Ryan and such an incredible landscape, as you say as long as you were both ok all is good😊

[@duzer]

It was a bummer, but we still had fun (for 1 day)

[@Huneidu]

Even though we know the journey will end short, I have to watch the video to the end because that is what olé is all about: flourishing amid the inevitable pain and joy that is life. Olé olé olé olé, olé, olé!

[@duzer]

That’s the Olè philosophy!!

[@alanc6752]

I am in tropical Thailand. My older water bottles have cracked like that after years of heat and uv. If you fill your old bottles then drop them on the road they may crack also. A newer bottle should pass that test easily.

[@comounaverdura]

Nice video. Thanks for explaining about the mechanical problems. I think people will learn from your experience.

[@duzer]

Thanks for watching!

[@rescuedfriendsanimalsanctu8481]

Let’s see a collab with Anton , maybe a ride, run, and scramble around Boulder

[@René-Chapman]

Breathtaking scenery, you have to give it another go at some point! 👍

[@duzer]

That's the plan!

[@LoriG75]

Love how you appreciated all the beauty and adventure while it lasted. Tom has a great attitude, too, and the best laugh. Hope you guys can get a chance to have a do-over of this route.😊

[@duzer]

We’ll find something else for sure! Thanks for watching

[@heathervita4320]

Gorgeous landscape. Hope to see you both back. I appreciate the real life of this video. Knowing stuff doesn’t always work out. But man I’d love to see this full route one day!!

[@duzer]

Thanks, it was a great day, until it wasn’t, and even then, it was a pretty good day

[@markhopo9335]

Making sensible choices when things go wrong is paramount. Your were both right to call it, have one great day rather than 1 great day and two bad ones 😊

[@Gary-do8zf]

Thanks Ryan, really appreciate your videos. Encouraged me to start bike packing in Western Australia… started on the Munda Biddi… lovely ride. Sorry your trip was cut short… gotta say… if you want a rack for any bike and is so sturdy I have to recommend you take a good look at the Tailfin… most solid rack I’ve research and now used… keep up the great work…. Thank you

[@duzer]

I really wanna do the Munda Biddi someday! And I’m gonna look into that Tailfin rack for sure

[@Michael_48]

Hi Ryan, thanks for sharing and greetings from Germany. Sorry that trip it didn't work out exactly as planned but there are some beautiful pics anyway. :-) if possible, please share more of your planning & preparation for your trips. Maybe one day I will also go on a bike packing trip :-)

[@paulahavens2764]

Check list are a must before any trip. Also I agree use new equipment before you go any where. Great video the scenery was worth the trip.Thanks for taking us along on your adventure, always something to learn yet still having fun.

[@parajared]

Only 6L of water for 3 days/170 miles is insane. On my bikepacking trips I can easily blow through an entire 6L in a single day of hard peddling. I also use the Aeroe Spider rack, both front and rear for bikepacking and have had good luck. No issues yet.

[@johnsaunders1435]

What a beautiful adventure and video anyway. One thing i will take away from this is when stopping alongnthe way, "fondle" the gear for looseness and secure connections. Keep rolling forward.

[@duzer]

That’s a good idea. Bikepacking jostles things loose constantly

[@joeljones4080]

Oh my. I just ordered an Aeroe rack for my 600X! Expecting it to arrive in two days. If you learn any additional info, I’d appreciate if you shared it. Thanks.

[@Lughnerson]

Get an extra strap or two.

[@Denco83]

I'm a big proponent of the shakedown ride where, if there's time, loading and riding the bike a few miles and seeing how it feels before setting out. Waiting on the results of the water bottle filter.

[@duzer]

I hear you. We should have done this, but sometimes you get comfortable and expect everything to work...and that's not how it always works out ;)

[@Kevin-ln6ql]

I'm still hoping to see you come do the North Carolina Mountains to Coast ride. It's in October. Plenty of time to plan for this year. 😉

[@duzer]

Maybe one day!

[@Flintynicknacks]

Try Tailfin? They do a version for dry bags. Far fewer things to adjust! Lighter too…

[@duzer]

I’m gonna look into that!

[@billschoolfield3378]

@@duzer Yep all the weight is on the axle (if you choose the axle option, also works for conventional mounts). Their gear is really well thought out, and lightweight. Expensive but one failure or two and I'd say well worth it over loosing out on a great ride. 😃

[@RuggedRunnerOverland]

I would say two things to carry on any bikepacking trip would be duck/duct tape and zip ties, that rack probably could have been useable with some zip ties to hold it in place for the rest of the trip since it was only a two to three day trip.

[@duzer]

I always have tape and extra straps, but there’s no way it would have held that rack onto the bike PLUS at least 20 pounds of weight….on rough terrain

[@lazurm]

@@duzer It's probably not practicle but, in case you didn't know, there are stainless steel zip ties on the market that are incredibly strong.

[@billysbikesbrews7183]

Moab is Stunning between you running & BikePacking there.. I need to add to my long Bucket List.. looks Amazing 😍🚴‍♂️😎 Wow.. sorry for mishap 😕

[@duzer]

It’s an incredible area. Hope you make it out there someday

[@george8214]

Great advice! And beautiful ride.

[@duzer]

Glad you liked it!

[@Bikepacking]

I’ve been using that rear rack system for over 5 years never failed … i do carry spare straps ..ive even ran it with only 2 bolts and still holds ..

[@duzer]

Good to hear!

[@AlexCorn-lh6eg]

as the wise man and chicken purveyor Kenny Rogers once said: "gotta know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em". You guys made the right call. Love your attitude despite the huge bummer. Great video!

[@duzer]

Love ol Kenny! Thanks for your vote of confidence

[@GravelPunk68]

Hi Ryan, thanks for the nice video and information of the Rack.. Greetings from germany 😊

[@toddremington1519]

It's great to see the good, the bad and the ugly! Have always enjoyed your good (great) adventures. Glad you will share the bad too, as a learning experience for all. Especially appreciate your decision making skills as a reality check for these of adventures. Unfortunately, been there too. With that said, wondering about your new bike experiment. You willing to share details yet? Also, do you still like the Wren adventure fork? I have one on my 29er and have had no problems. Still love it.

[@duzer]

Thanks, I always try to show a well rounded image of what it’s like out there. I’ll have new info about the blue bike soon!

[@yurihuertavasquez9544]

Just keep biking man. 💪💪. Hey wonderful place . Incredible. Saludos desde Panamá 🇵🇦

[@duzer]

Gracias, mi amigo!!

[@ninacnmmsncom]

Bicycling in Denmark and lost a screw from both front & rear racks. T-G for zip ties!

[@sagehiker]

Curious if you rebooted the trip and did another adventure with the remaining days? I had a nine day trip in the Washakie Wilderness that went wonky on day two, retreated and regrouped, and went off four day trip in another close by and interesting place. My wonk or whammy was wrong fuel canisters for the stove I had. Bad prep and check out error. Then broke a partial; no cook and no eat for most of my packed food. Whammy two. Both fixed in Dubois wth a dentist and a outfitter stop.

[@duzer]

I wish we could have, but we had a tight timeline already :( glad to hear that you salvaged yours.

[@ShaunHall-i7e]

Thanks for sharing this. ❤ 🚲

[@kenprice1047]

I ordered the Aeroe rear rack w/two cradles. 1/2 of Those straps and their bolts were loose inside the box. So that showed me immediately that this mounting system was finicky. 1. I think the straps should have a cotter pin on one side of it. 2. It seems like the plastic needs more metal reinforcement at the bolt head and nut locations. Overall I am pleased with the racks so far, but the mounting systems could use some upgrades.

[@duzer]

I hear you, these would make for great upgrades

[@SidekickElements]

always bring some heavy duty cable ties when bikepacking. they weigh next to nothing, and 2-4 of those can hold like 100kg... can fix anything that breaks on your luggage system with them.

[@duzer]

I carry extra Voile straps, but they’re not strong enough to hold a rack (with gear) strapped onto a bike on rough trails.

[@SidekickElements]

@@duzer definitely check out the heavy duty nylon cable tie options. I rode more than 1000km across Japan with a pannier rack cable tied onto my bike. Even took my road bike offroad a couple of times on the way and the cable ties survived.

[@Ncnew77]

@@SidekickElements Zip ties. Ultra light and fixed a rack in Tajikstan that lasted 4000 km. Dont leave without them. So true man!

[@TerryRamsey-jg8fm]

Fix it with your shoe lace dude😅😅😅

[@tomsitzman3952]

Every luggage system has its own Achiles tendon. I have had the bolt that attaches the rear rack to the frame shear off dropping the top of the rack on the rear wheel. That was fixable on the road with hanging the rear rack from the bottom of the saddle with cord. You in effect had the whole rack fail.

[@AdventuresWithDaniel]

Bummer for sure! I was in Moab for Easter Jeep Safari, love love love Moab.

[@duzer]

It’s the best!!

[@MarioCañez-v1t]

Was that the trail from San Rafael to Moab??? I have the Old rack,, new stuff hard to assemble and cheap material,,

[@michelel439]

Oh man what a bummer on what would've otherwise been a perfect trip! Thank you for sharing the real real tho, and the debrief at the end. Helpful warning for newbies like me 😮

[@duzer]

It was a bummer indeed, but all is well that ends well (with no injuries)

[@mattmccune7590]

Ryan are you guys going to try this again? If so please reach out to me. I live in Moab, and am happy to help you guys out with a water drops. I love this area, and would be more than happy to lend a hand.

[@duzer]

Ooooh!!! This would be super helpful, thank you so much for your generous offer. I’ll be in touch the next time I make a go at this.

[@PRH123]

Beautiful road, amazing. Looks like an interesting rack, but its clear immediately that without a connection to the seatpost or frame, there's no way it's going to stay secure with only seatstay straps. I have a rack for bikes without mounting points (Ibera) with the same design and it works quite well (has a 3rd seatstay strap). Will never be as strong as a regular rack, but it's good for 10 kg.

[@duzer]

I’ll look up that rack, thanks for the info

[@elizabethpoley6882]

As for a back rack that can go on anything, check out the Thule Pack 'N Pedal Tour Rack. It's what I'm planning on using in the future on my new road bike. There are some stores around the country where you can pick one up for $99. Sorry to hear about your bad luck on this trip, but Moab is so beautiful I know you'll be back.👍

[@duzer]

I’ll look into that, thanks!

[@slow_spokes]

Whelp, this goes on our list now. Those cliffs look ridiculous. Sorry that gear malfunctions cut your trip short!

[@duzer]

Put it high on your list! I can vouch for the first 25 miles 😂😂

[@davidgatzen1543]

I was riding a touring bike in a group ride once, with a normal rear rack, and one of the rack screws near the rear quick release came out. At first I did not know what happened, but I knew something was wrong, because something was rubbing on my rear wheel, and slowing me down. The next time the group stopped I saw that a screw was missing from the rack, and the rack was sagging down, so that the top of the rack was rubbing on the rear wheel. I noticed that the screws that held my bottle cages on were the same screws as the screws that held my rack on. I removed a bottom screw from one of my bottle cages, and used it to replace the rack screw. The water bottles do not weigh much, so they worked OK with one screw. I used the bottom screw from the bottle cage, because if I used the top screw the bottle cage would tend to tip over sideways if the only screw holding the cage was the bottom screw. I had to solve the problem quickly. because I was on a group ride with more than 50 people, and I could not expect the whole group to wait for me while I fixed my rack. Now I always use Loctite on my rack and bottle cage screws. If I add something new to my bike, or fix something on my bike, I try to go on at least one short ride by myself, before I go on a long ride with other people.

[@Velo_Safari]

Does that water filter that you screw on to your bottle have a carbon filter? I ask cuz I’m looking for a filter ( any kind) that has a carbon filter that can filter out heavy metals from a water source. That’s critically important.

[@ScottCarlson-cz7wj]

I enjoyed this video. Any adventure is better than no adventure.

[@duzer]

So true!!

[@zimmejoc]

Oh no!!!!!! I've often wondered about the long term durability of the Aeroe racks. I was more concerned with the webbing than the hardware. Mine have been rock solid for 2 years and counting now. I put it on my bike, and haven't ever taken the rack off since.

[@duzer]

Putting it on and never taking it off is definitely the way to go!

[@kathleenhart707]

Now that's a bummer! Recently got same rack, as am planning to swap it between two different bikes. Took it on recent 5 day trip with the same cradle and drybag setup as your buddy. Did same thing, started ride with the config 100% untested, but thankfully all worked fine! (Still getting my head around packing those drybags, as more used to the space of panniers!)🤣

[@duzer]

The dry bags are definitely a little trickier to pack, but you’ll get the hang of them

[@jeffdible8171]

Its still an adventure and a learning exercise. Mechanicals happen. Its probably why I'm a late adapter luddite and sometimes use vintage designs because they are proven. You still got to do some MOAB. Great attitude

[@duzer]

We did indeed have one great day in Moab!

[@chrisconnors7418]

That would be disappointing! I love Moab. I don’t know about that trail though. Now I’ve got another reason to return there. You should run a tour through that area. Have Priority bikes for those who want to rent them. I’d sign up and pay for a tour and a Priority rental. I want to buy one of their bikes too-I’ll wait till I hear more about the prototype you’re testing

[@duzer]

I like this idea!

[@markcassidy1718]

This is an incredible journey but it's like cicling on Mars. I am into wild life. Birds n things. I have just spent a month on the Greek island of Lesvos. 165 species of birds. I have to go where the life is. Love your videos. A fantastic island. Try it may see you there. 🚴🦅

[@duzer]

It’s indeed like Mars! Looks like I gotta checkout Lesvos

[@gzahnd]

Those Texas wheelchairs (aka side-by-sides) are the scourge of the earth.

[@duzer]

I’m with you 100% on that!!! I only filmed one, there were tons out there

[@PRH123]

I didn't know they make 4 seaters now, they may as well just drive a car :( maybe they'll electrify them and at least they'll be quieter

[@gzahnd]

@@PRH123 the Walmart people who drive those things are the same people who hate electric vehicles. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@PRH123]

@@gzahnd ah, I see…. makes sense….

[@draberraber6608]

I just bought an aeroe rack for an upcoming trip. Did you torque to specifications? ie 4 Nm Not just supertight.

[@hemaccabe4292]

Like seeing you made a new friend and are cross pollinating your channels. I think you have a better time when you do these things with a friend. I would imagine when two social media people work together you could coordinate at least a bit? Like share footage. One thing would be to have you set up your riding away shot, get the shot, and have Jabba wait and bring the camera? Then return the favor a bit down the road. Also, I think you could figure out how to take those ride away shots with your drone already?

[@silverado5325]

Okay, from Moab out to where you were on Lockhart is pretty substantial ride. If the rack was having an issue maybe a little less yelling, running up and back, drone flying and more time staring at the mechanism instead?

[@duzer]

ok, dad 🤣🤣

[@gregorybraithhunter]

Thanks for going into detail about your theories about the rack problems. Maybe Aeroe Rack will hit you up and give their theories. Peace! No whammies!

[@OutsideSometimes]

Pre-tests are important, even with new weight distribution on a bike. Got a nasty wobble when I overloaded my rear rack relative to other stuff for a big trip. It was mostly manageable, rode 100 miles with it, and my body took me out of the trip anyway due to some health crap, but the weight issue was not great.

[@matthewleocha1587]

Where in central Pa…Hershey hometown fan here!

[@duzer]

Now I want some chocolate!

[@robincurwood]

Couldn't you rotate that bracket 180° so the bottom goes to the top?

[@SamirBorelli]

Bummer😢, i think if you turn that piece that fixes to the triangle, using the bolt that was still working on the upside and get rid of the screwed bolt for some paracord, with some knot skill, you could go to the entire trip! Well, but maybe it was a sign and was better to give up tough

[@jeffreyrule8143]

Sorry for your shorten trip. I know you will return.

[@duzer]

I will indeed!!

[@puro52]

with all the stress of life and everything hectic all around. just testing out 100% your gear before a trip aint easy. hoppas allt gick väl! mvh!(med vänliga hälsningar)

[@duzer]

It might not be easy to find the time, but it’s worth it to hopefully prevent catastrophes from happening on adventures.

[@yves78]

Bummer. I am one of those that leaves the rack on. It looks ugly when I am just riding and it is unloaded but I never have to worry about it.

[@duzer]

That’s probably the best way to go about it

[@lazurm]

Another reason, besides back and shoulder strain, not to wear a backpack on a long ride is the affect it has on your butt due to its added weight transferring to that area thus increasing the chances for saddle sores. On the road a backpack may interfere with a cyclist's rear view, an important aspect to being sensitive to vehicles (where radar, i.e. a Varia, may also help significantly).

[@duzer]

Very good points, thank you for sharing

[@imajez1]

I have a cycling specific backpack, which is mainly used when I don't have bikepacking gear on bike. It is incredibly comfortable, so much so I thought I'd forgotten it one occasion, when I was actually wearing it. And that with some heavyish bikeability teaching kit in bag. It also doesn't interfere with rear view. I can wear it all day no problem, with no effect on saddle and in summer it cools the air gap between bag and back when I have a bladder full of iced drink. The spine air gap and a good waist strap are the essential design features for a comfy bag.

[@lazurm]

@@imajez1 Yes, indeed there are cycling specific backpacks and I own one myself. It even stays upright if I'm swinging from side to side while standing on the pedals. It also stays about 1 inch away from my back for aeration. But, for the great majority, there can be issues that I mentioned as, often, people don't anticipate them. Any added weight on the body, above the saddle, may increase the odds of saddle soreness, though not necessarily. And many backpacks do interfer with one's rear view, something that should be considered when chosing a backpack.

[@imajez1]

@@lazurm There's a lot of decent cycling backpacks to choose from now. Choosing a bad backpack is like choosing shoes for wrong sport or that don't fit you. It's not the fault of the shoe/backpack.

[@lazurm]

@@imajez1 That's good to know. Of course there are many who, despite the availability, continue to make poor choices, or can't afford the right ones. I see it everyday and lots of times.

[@aprildntn]

Aw! A sad little whammy! Hope you get a chance to revisit as Jabba seems entirely huggable.

[@duzer]

We’ll find something else down the road

[@aprildntn]

@@duzer I see what you did there…very punny! Hope you get to do an update on the prototype anyway. Love the color-hoping they do one in Smith helmet orange for ya as well.

[@hemaccabe4292]

That aero device looks nice. I see two problems. First, that strap you lost? It should be captured on one side so it can't be lost. Second, looks like some of those metal knobs work by friction directly on plastic. That's not good. Should be metal reinforcement on the plastic wherever it touches metal knobs or screws. Minor oversights by aero, they should release an updated model. Could also just ditch plastic for the structure. Plastic is cheap, strong and light, but I know you don't like plastic and it's not a great long terms structural material.

[@lamakina99]

Your hindsight will be my foresight, thank you.

[@duzer]

Glad to help

[@harrygrimley4352]

HEY!!! Are you running at cochela . This weekend i think?

[@pdiddysea8599]

i had the aeros system but I returned it in favor of the Tailfin rack and panniers system. Would love to see you talk to them and maybe demo their stuff. It smokes the aeros imo. They are super friendly and responsive and their stuff is super well engineered. You would not have had the issues you did with the aeros system.

[@duzer]

I'm gonna reach out to them, the Tailfin seems to be the one!!

[@pdiddysea8599]

@@duzer Its insanely great and the locking mechanism is cnc machined I think. They are a small shop many don'tt know about and I love them getting more attention. Maybe you can become an ambassador? :)

[@fernandoperea2766]

Iron wire would help to fix damaged rack. A gallon of water can be carried up under the handlebar stem.

[@eliminator7ful]

Zip ties would work. or better yet some paracord and some knowledge of hitch knots and a bowline knot. In fact, it would probably be a more secure setup that way. And lighter. Bushcraft ftw!

[@BieKenobi]

Hey Ryan, thanks for sharing this experience (and all other ones)! What is the name of the equipment again? Sorry, my English is a little rusty, YT wrote "Arrow Rack", but I couldn't find it on Google or on the list you posted in the description.

[@duzer]

Aeroe

[@BieKenobi]

@@duzer now that you wrote it, of course it was Aeroe, it was so clear! I'm sorry and thanks Ryan! Greetings from Brazil!

[@locodawgs-8500]

Couldn't you technically super glued it? Or gorilla glued it? Im asking because im trying to prepare as much as possible before my trip

[@Bikepacking]

Tip always bring plumbing tape if you ever strip a bolt just rap it with the plumbing tape it make new threads and will hold

[@duzer]

Oh cool, that’s a great idea

[@Bikepacking]

@@duzer your welcome do a video on your tools and spare parts you take on a trip i be interested in seeing that as ive been doing a shake down of my gear setup

[@johnguthrie9591]

Necessity is the mother of invention. I'm wondering if Moab was the concept birthplace for the brand new Van Duzer/Priority bike rack! Glad you guys made it out safely.

[@duzer]

Oooh, maybe so ;)

[@alethearobinson8132]

Bummer. But you guys handled it with grace😊. Down the road, this will be a special memory and will make all the times that go smoothly that much sweeter. I'm looking forward to the run down on the new proto type. ❤ that it is in colour and not black or gray. Cheers 🌞 🚴‍♀️ 🖖

[@duzer]

I agree!! It’s already a special memory, love Moab

[@Edzelito]

I wish one Day i can make videos Like yours... I still admire youre Editing Skill and one day i make one like this... Ride Safe and Enjoy ...

[@duzer]

You can do it!

[@Edzelito]

@@duzer Thank you so much ❤️ Watching from the Philippines ❤️

[@kevinselin2288]

Thanks for another great video! Would the first two weeks of March be ok hit up Moab?

[@duzer]

Yep, March is perfect

[@simonstucki]

thanks for sharing even if it wasn't a totally successful adventure. I wonder if these type of racks (that attach to the seatstays or even fork (thule also makes one)) have any kind of advantage (other that they are generally quite a bit cheaper) over a the tailfin/OMM system where the weight is supported by a special through axle? also you seem to be using this rack even on a bike that would take a conventional rack, why do you like it more? (assuming you are not sponsored)

[@duzer]

I’m not sponsored by Aeroe, I wanted a rack that would allow me to use a dropper post, so I gave Aeroe a shot. It’s not perfect by any stretch, but it works. I also have used the Tumbleweed T rack, again, not perfect but it works. We’ll see what I try next, this incident has eroded my confidence in Aeroe

[@returnedfrompanama]

Try the Old Man Mountain Divide rack.

[@duzer]

I’m gonna look into that

[@tonydejesus2134]

What happened to the promised info about the prototype bike?

[@duzer]

I didn’t say that you’d get that info in this video, just that it’s “coming” ;)

[@herbiejr-ty8oh]

What about you? Ride Wipe your bike all the way up to Canada See some close friends. Have there. Found some on the bike trail adventures

[@lydiagould3090]

Great video, Im sure we’ve all had this kind of equipment fail. I like your saying, it will silence those that want to criticise 😂

[@duzer]

Things happen, and in the grand scheme, it wasn’t that bad. Cheers!

[@basecamper_]

What are the straps on your water bottles? Where can I find them?

[@duzer]

Www.modloutdoors.com