Ryzen 7 7800X3D Undervolt & Overclock to 5403 MHz With ROG Crosshair X670E Hero | SkatterBencher #60

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@robo2901
@robo2901 Жыл бұрын
Would appreciate a redo of this with the newest, post cpu issues, lower voltage BIOS, installed.
@redhood420
@redhood420 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@kwolf6661
@kwolf6661 Жыл бұрын
@@redhood420 my thoughts exactly
@vdbmario
@vdbmario Жыл бұрын
Yes please
@Spaceman-on9cg
@Spaceman-on9cg Жыл бұрын
That would be awesome!
@mb-electricalservices
@mb-electricalservices Жыл бұрын
Definitely
@sugarjesusyt
@sugarjesusyt Жыл бұрын
I was waiting for it!
@gerardfraser
@gerardfraser Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing,awesome
@mb-electricalservices
@mb-electricalservices Ай бұрын
How about a modern update for this processor due to the recent BIOS updates bringing extra features and stability. Hopefully its something you'll be willing to consider. 🙏
@Cuthalu
@Cuthalu 9 ай бұрын
Those game results are a bit perplexing, one would assume there would be much higher differences. Either way, fantastic tutorial.
@ertai222
@ertai222 Жыл бұрын
Good job 👍🏻
@teknosirobleehahh2364
@teknosirobleehahh2364 Жыл бұрын
I cant do dual Channel with my 7800x3D and my tuf x670e plus wifi... I have a 2x16 kit RAM, tot 32gb ddr5 cl30 6000mhz. PC works only in frist 2 slot RAM, called "A1/a2" I canti do dual Channel, and if i populate any of b slot, my PC don't boot... I saw Is a very comune problem on am5, expecially on Asus mobo, and x3D CPU... What can i do now? I don't know if the issuse come from CPU Memory control, or a issuse mobo... I whached PIN of mobo and CPU and lookly normal... Sorry for my terrible english, but i Need answer! I have less 8 day for a Amazon refound or swich... Please, can someone help me, pleasee?? 😰😰
@Player_g1
@Player_g1 Жыл бұрын
I can't keep up
@pedroteixeira4369
@pedroteixeira4369 Жыл бұрын
You are a monster! Amazing OC video. So much quality info condensed in less than 40m. Many thanks for your the effort you put into making this available.
@iLegionaire3755
@iLegionaire3755 Жыл бұрын
Best overclocker on KZbin, it isn't even a competition SkatterBencher is a BEAST.
@UFDTech
@UFDTech Жыл бұрын
Incredible video. Thanks for making this!
@SkatterBencher
@SkatterBencher Жыл бұрын
Thanks Brett! I still remember remember when you joined our World Tour overclocking event in Cape Town many years ago! :)
@xBRA7E
@xBRA7E 8 ай бұрын
I did it with the OC Strategy #3. I tested everything with Prime95 and FurMark after the settings and then went into my main game Escape from Tarkov for the final test. I didn't get any errors, crashes or blue screens and my Ryzen 7 7800X3D simply doesn't get warmer than 70° - thank you for the video! Greetings from Germany
@taketotheskies6950
@taketotheskies6950 8 ай бұрын
I did strategy 3 but my soc is above 1.3 each time but if I limit it, I loose the performance gains. So basically unsure what to do.
@lsik231l
@lsik231l 5 ай бұрын
​@taketotheskies6950 you try letting Ryzen Master auto curve optimize. Can even choose per core and see what it determines to be stable.
@robo30000
@robo30000 Ай бұрын
@@lsik231l DO NOT let ryzen laster auto curve, it will crash your cpu. It goes too high.
@nots0
@nots0 9 ай бұрын
Never have i watch a full 37 min video on youtube since 2006, you sir, are a great and simple person. I hope the best for you! Thanks a lot!
@ch4s3r-187
@ch4s3r-187 10 ай бұрын
You are the best overclocker I've seen, and I've seen a lot of them...every one of yours oc's is thoroughly explained to the smallest detail...with you it's easy to understand how silicon valley works...thank you for that...!!!!👍✌️
@cjroush8563
@cjroush8563 Жыл бұрын
I learned alot today. Thank you for your hard work.
@engjds
@engjds 15 күн бұрын
Newbie here, so from what I can take in, this is a rather hit and miss proceedure with the only monitoring feedback that its working is temperatures, but it could still render your system unstable or even damage your sockets because you are driving them beyond their specified power/current limits? So ultimately, you could be reducing the lifetime of your CPU and motherboard?
@UKNamaste
@UKNamaste 5 ай бұрын
Love the way you repeat the BIOS setup from scratch for each option. Plus the detailed descriptions. Great vid!
@skypickle29
@skypickle29 Жыл бұрын
since the x3D architecture is aimed at being a 'gaming' chip, would it not be best to have a config that allows 1 or 2 cores to boost high rather than an across-the-board medium uplift?
@MasterBot98
@MasterBot98 Жыл бұрын
Id love a 6 core 3dv cpu with 1-2 super-cores,thats the dream cpu :O
@MTDucas
@MTDucas Жыл бұрын
Such a in depth video.....I am getting a 7800x3d with a msi x67e carbon wifi in the next week or so....hope I can get as close as possible to your results
@MrGrzegorzD
@MrGrzegorzD Жыл бұрын
does this mb has external clock generator? to oc bus to 105-110Mhz?
@AerynGaming
@AerynGaming Жыл бұрын
@@MrGrzegorzD It does not, you need to go up to the $700 x670e boards for that. I'm not sure about options on the lower end chipsets.
@coolbvwes1
@coolbvwes1 Жыл бұрын
@@AerynGaming the B650E gigabyte master does have elck, I bought it because it should have it, it only also cost me 450 euros 😂
@GoldenEagle0007
@GoldenEagle0007 Жыл бұрын
so 7800X3D is basically faster then the 7950X3D 3D cache enabled only?
@davidwilliamscomau
@davidwilliamscomau Жыл бұрын
Don't mistake a silicon lottery result for an average.
@jhrbacek
@jhrbacek 3 ай бұрын
Your understanding and presentation skills are very impressive. Thank you for sharing this information
@matthewhaworth5935
@matthewhaworth5935 Жыл бұрын
Maybe you've covered this in another video, but can you explain your method for determining your per core curve optimizer offsets? (Or direct me to it) or is it exactly as it seems and is just a time consuming and tedious process if you truly want to have every core at the edge? I'm curious to know your process either way.
@SkatterBencher
@SkatterBencher Жыл бұрын
It very much is a tedious and time-consumption process. The specific tuning process depends a lot of the specific CPU, because I find that some CPUs are more sensitive to different types of workloads (SSE, AVX, etc). But my general process is pretty simple: Set negative all core curve optimizer, then check stability with Prime95 small ffts no avx for each core separately (affinity). I just check for 20sec because I'm only interested in whether it crashes immediately or not. Then, as long as all cores pass, further increase the negative curve optimizer in steps of 5. Then, when 1 core fails switch to per-core curve optimizer and back down on the one core that failed and keep going with the others. When you have a configuration that works for all cores, it's time to double check stability in various scenarios. I usually do: 1) Per-core SuperPI 32M, to check high-boost stability in light workloads 2) Prime95 small ffts all core non-avx, to check boost in non-avx heavy workload 3) Prime95 small ffts all core avx2, to check boost in avx heavy workload 4) Run all my benchmarks to ensure stability For 1, 2, and 3, you can easily spot which core is unstable and then just back down with Curve Optimizer for that core. For 4, it's more difficult, so I just back down 5 steps for all cores to build in margin.
@matthewhaworth5935
@matthewhaworth5935 Жыл бұрын
@@SkatterBencher Thank you so much for taking the time to detail this out. I guess I need to reinstall prime95. It's been years since I used it last and I wasn't aware you could do per core testing. SuperPI will be a huge help too because my biggest issue always seems to be high boost light workload instability with my last few builds. Thanks again. You should consider making this into a video, I can almost guarantee there are a lot of people out there that would love to have this in your usual format as a visual walkthrough for getting the most out of their CO.
@njasicko
@njasicko Жыл бұрын
I use OCCT and test 1 core at a time, takes forever but works.
@ItzTheDay
@ItzTheDay Жыл бұрын
@@SkatterBencher What about using Ryzen Master and running the per core optimizer, and either just using Master or entering the offset in your bios?
@carlb641
@carlb641 Жыл бұрын
@@SkatterBencher Just started my 7800x3D build and I would like to say thanks for this. Got a question regarding 1/2/3 though, how exactly do we spot the failing cores? All cores pass with -30 for 5 mins each for non avx but when I start with avx2 with the same settings it crashes(bsod) immediately and I can't tell which core was doing it heh.
@ryanodneal7001
@ryanodneal7001 Жыл бұрын
Wow, @13:20 the correlation with X3D profile plus PBO with stock or PBO (only) is amazing. Seems like easy performance gain with more to come. That chip wants to fly. No wonder you had a great time with this chip.
@CarnivoryHODL
@CarnivoryHODL Жыл бұрын
Is MSI the only Dev that has this option? Or will others? Can this be replicated? Have a gigabyte mb.
@meekmeads
@meekmeads Жыл бұрын
Do you think AMD kinda locked it, to make the 7950whybother3D. not look as bad?
@ryanodneal7001
@ryanodneal7001 Жыл бұрын
@@CarnivoryHODL My Crosshair board has 3 X3D profiles that were added to the BIOS after the launch of the AM5 X3D chips. Be sure to check for recent new BIOS
@CarnivoryHODL
@CarnivoryHODL Жыл бұрын
@@ryanodneal7001 Big help, thanks! On latest bios now, but afraid to go to beta version.. Is yours a beta version?
@CarnivoryHODL
@CarnivoryHODL Жыл бұрын
@@ryanodneal7001 Where do you think I’d find it in the bios? I’m on gigabyte, not asus, so what were the x3d profile names and what menu were they on? Thanks so much!
@bismuth7730
@bismuth7730 Жыл бұрын
Wow a lot of work has been invested into this video. SkatterBencher is a beast!
@amsutton22
@amsutton22 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video, thank you so much for taking the time to share your knowledge. You explain everything so throughly, very helpful.
@davids8345
@davids8345 Жыл бұрын
An unbelievable amount of detail in this video... subscribed!
@fonolavalencia
@fonolavalencia 8 ай бұрын
So the real question. Does it has FPS improvements or just 1% 0.1% lows on games ? thanks for the video, I just build my rig yesterday. 7800x 3d , 64gb 6400 CL32 on a x670e RS Asrock mainboard.
@aditesto7918
@aditesto7918 Жыл бұрын
So whats the best Setting for Gaming ? 7800X3D asus B650E E Gaming
@boastyy
@boastyy Жыл бұрын
I noticed your cpu soc voltage is 1.35v, with the recent news of the burning chips and expo problems, the manufacturers are hard locking the new bios versions to 1.30v max, was wondering your thoughts on this. Many users are manually setting the soc to 1.25v to be on the safe side at least until more info is known. Thanks for the video.
@SkatterBencher
@SkatterBencher Жыл бұрын
I've been trying to follow the news about the burning up a little bit (including some of the in-depth pieces). Generally, I'm a bit annoyed with the coverage because there's still lots of speculation and jumping to conclusions. Also, I'm not a fan of calling people "lazy" without evidence. It implies intentional malfeasance. My opinion is that 100mV difference will never be the difference between "guaranteed burnout" and "absolute safety", unless there is a specific hardware design flaw causing that. Going by the physical damage, it's clear some thermal protection is failing. That could related to a dysfunctional physical sensor in the CPU or some edge-case SMU firmware bug, or something different. But what's it's not is +100mV :). I look at the BIOS voltage limitations as a way to show customers something's actively being done about it and to shift the conversation to "it's those darned overclockers again". You know ... it's not "in spec" but "out of spec" behavior. I'm not confident we'll ever know the true root cause of this issue. And, honestly, I don't really care that much about the root cause being known by the public. I'm just a bit worried that this will further detract AMD from actively investing resources to enable great overclocking experiences.
@boastyy
@boastyy Жыл бұрын
@@SkatterBencher Thanks man, appreciate you taking the time to answer.😀
@tachyongti
@tachyongti Жыл бұрын
thanks for putting these amazing videos and tutorials out. really is the best out there!
@Nek2
@Nek2 Жыл бұрын
Hi all. I have Rog Strix x670e-e gaming wifi mobo, 32 gb ddr5 6400 cl32 G.SKILL ram, ryzen 7 7800x3d. On current bios 1416 I am able to achive roughly 5335 mhz clock per core on my cpu. Using strategy #3 from this video, didn’t want to try manual core by core settings so did all at once. So my setup is also 6200 mhz, since 6400 mhz was not stable in DOCP I profile (mobo does not have EXPO for some reason, but it is esentialy same thing just different name for Asus). Precision boost overdrive - enabled, curve optimizer - all cores, negative, and i did 25 magnitude. Tried 30 did pass cinebench R23 but in idle crash, 35 magnitude crash instantly, and 25 was stable for me. I can probably go higher on some cores, and some not, but as I said, i didn’t want to do manual per core overclock. Managed to get around 3.25% (give or take) boost in performance (not counting gpu overclock) and from around 5000 mhz max core clock speed to 5335 mhz per core. Temps stable, droped i think 2-3 celsius from 88-89 to 86-87 in full load Cinebench 23. Idle startup is around 45-47, normal to heavy workload 65-75 celsius and veryhigh workload 86 celsius. Cinebench R23 score - before cpu overclock somewhere around 17400, after overclock 18051. I do not play highly intensive games, and even without OC i had enough fps in games, but did it anyway just to check the results and pass info here since there is almost none cpu overclock videos of this cpu after this fiasco with Asus and their burned up cpu and mobo. I couldn’t hit chinebench 23 scores he hit in this video, but i think that is due mobo diference (his is higer rank and have 20+2 A teamed power solution rate while mine have 18+2 , maybe clean windows 11 instalation, and some other thing, I don’t know, I am not expert, and don’t even know is that ever relevant for cpu overclock, but I have seen my cpu hit 18200 (give or take) score in Cinebench R23 when we put sistem together and did first few testings. Hope this helps someone.
@vincentvega3093
@vincentvega3093 Жыл бұрын
Early bird collects the clicks...
@silfrido1768
@silfrido1768 5 ай бұрын
Correct me if I’m wrong but if you set pbo to enhancement & then set it to your motherboard - the motherboard will limit the CPU’s potential ?
@supernice_auto
@supernice_auto 8 күн бұрын
I'm on a 5800x3d but plan on upgrading to a 7800x3d when the time is right- love all your videos you're a legend but I do have one question- does pbo on am4 introduce any sort of added system/input latency? I'm a competitve fps gamer and currently run my 5800x3d with SMT disabled no PBO etc. I guess in theory PBO/any overclock should actually lower input latency as it's effectively the same as having a higher IPC on a CPU? I spent years dealing with/learning about multi CCD core-to-core latency penalty w/ a 5950x before realizing that the slugish aim I was experencing in FPS games was actually the result of higher than usual DPC/system latency due to the fact the game was running on multiple physical + virtual cores and communicating across multiple CCDs. And i've recently started learning about processor IPC and how intel is generally better for gaming because of a higher IPC. What I can't wrap my head around is what is the 'definitive' way to determine which modern process- thanks in advance!
@dabagz1
@dabagz1 Жыл бұрын
god damn that was impressive. excellent work. thats a hell of a great chip
@JustinAlexanderBell
@JustinAlexanderBell Жыл бұрын
CPU overclocking complexity is increasing precipitously.
@RocoV08
@RocoV08 Жыл бұрын
I mean, it used to be WAY harder back then, then it suddenly got extremely easy (and boring)... And now it's getting a little bit harder again 😂
@DreadyBearBoi
@DreadyBearBoi Жыл бұрын
DDR5 overclocking has entered the chat.
@PREDATEURLT
@PREDATEURLT Жыл бұрын
Yeah and returns from overclocking is lower and lower, now people having a party if they can get 10%+ performance with questionable stability when 10-15 years ago you could get 50%+ more performance, test with single stability test and it worked stable for years.
@DreadyBearBoi
@DreadyBearBoi Жыл бұрын
@@PREDATEURLT Yeah I don’t know about that one, EXPO/XMP on DDR5 is hot garbage so even if it’s *only* 10-20% cumulative you’ll more than notice the uplift in 1% and 0.1% lows.
@PREDATEURLT
@PREDATEURLT Жыл бұрын
@@DreadyBearBoi There is slight difference, but compared how much memory tuning testing takes to how little improvement it gives it's more of full time job/hobby than actual improvement, and trust me I wasted months of life on these things.
@milordas
@milordas 18 күн бұрын
for 4k gaming with 4090, oc does not matter as there no bottleneck for 7950x3d cpu
@Power5
@Power5 6 ай бұрын
Great video. Helped me to understand what all the acronyms meant. My old 2600k was the last OC I have done. But it has been purring at 4.4ghz under an AIO for 10 years. It idles at lower temp than the 7800x3d which is also under an AIO. But seeing boost to 5150mhz using PBO2 curve at -30 and a 102mhz base clock. Ran p95 at up to 70c for 5 minutes. I am curious what I can undervolt to now to drop a few more degrees. I would like to know if I could OC just the boost. So it has a 5500mhz ceiling but idle and surfing the web only uses stock speeds for the most part.
@uplifesverige
@uplifesverige Ай бұрын
I really like your way of explaining things and amazing that you share your OC:s with the world! The only thing i would personally prefer is that you made the OC on a non closed loop liquid. The majority of ppl doesnt have that good cooling so doing what you recommend with for example an AIO could destory the system.
@joshbarron7406
@joshbarron7406 Жыл бұрын
I have a 7800x3D with asus b650e-I and I don’t have the overcooking presets options (I did update my bios to the latest version
@0Blando0
@0Blando0 2 ай бұрын
Sensacional, objetivo e direto... À simplicidade nas explicações atigiu o apce da magnitude. Irei fazer no meu sistema, pois imaginei que não seria possível em tal processador. Fico super grato pelo ensinamenteo.
@a122c
@a122c 2 ай бұрын
agora me ajuda kkkkkk ensina
@JoseValdeolivar-n7b
@JoseValdeolivar-n7b 5 ай бұрын
Welp. This went completely over my head. Still, i can tell this video is a labor of love. Thanks for the upload.
@felipemotorhead
@felipemotorhead 9 ай бұрын
Is it correct to affirm that the strategy 3 is the optimal strategy for anyone who does not want to consume time on fine tuning? Also, I heard that CO ranges from +30 to -30, yet you can still set higher numbers like in your case -35 but in this situation the actual applied value would be -30. could you please verify this piece of information and confirm to me if that's true or false?
@SkatterBencher
@SkatterBencher 9 ай бұрын
OC Strategy #3 is the most balanced in terms of extra frequency and effort required. Correct! +30/-30 used to be the range, but on Raphael it's a bit different. In my Ryzen 7000 launch video I showed up to -300 (three hundred) worked. However, this can change with different AGESA code and I think now the range is more like +30/-60. skatterbencher.com/2022/09/26/raphael-overclocking-whats-new/#AMD_Precision_Boost_Overdrive_2
@felipemotorhead
@felipemotorhead 9 ай бұрын
@@SkatterBencher Thank you for answering so quickly man!
@CarnivoryHODL
@CarnivoryHODL Жыл бұрын
So awesome it can get up to 5.6ghz. Can’t wait to toy w/ mine tomorrow. 😎
@isipisilemonsqueezy
@isipisilemonsqueezy Жыл бұрын
Yes 5.6 without a load.
@Jenufo
@Jenufo Жыл бұрын
I'm playing with a 3900X and 4090 in 4K. Do you think its worth to upgrade to a 7800X3D? I could get the 5800 x3d for 284 euros...
@Ouira
@Ouira Жыл бұрын
For the biggest boost at the lowest price, I’d suggest the 5800x3d. If you’re looking to jump architectures, might as well go to 7800x3d.
@thomasbrowning5680
@thomasbrowning5680 Ай бұрын
Mine hits 5.5 at -30 curve and processor at -30
@Niodium
@Niodium 11 ай бұрын
By far the best explanation I've found. Great piece of work. Well paced, informative, doesn't make assumptions or skip stages. Well done!
@iarwa1n635
@iarwa1n635 Жыл бұрын
Which mobo is the most affordible with a ext clock gen?
@Dane-ep8bb
@Dane-ep8bb Жыл бұрын
Good guide although a little confusing. Right now ive set the bios overclock profile and also the curve optimizer but my chip will only do -20. stock max i can get is 17500 in cinebench r23. Think i lost the silicon lottery this time😢 but with these tweeks im at 5ghz all core new score 18766 sad the reviews basic scores was 18k oh well.
@faithful2008
@faithful2008 Жыл бұрын
- My stock 7800x3d is getting 18466 in in cinebench r23, all cores boost to 4825 Mhz in multi cores, ....and any single core hit 5050 Mhz in hwinfo while browse net or youtube. - Mabe some samples are allready tunned by amd from default with best volttage;) !! - And with -30 on all cores i can hit 18836 points...so 18466 vs 18836..... no such such a big deal ...just a little few points and the speed of single cores still do not surpass 5050Mhz in game , so don't be sad about silicon lottery because is doesn't metter a lot in the case of 7800X3D!!! like in the cases of non x3d who can boost higher the single clock frequency. - Also here in this video i see he get only +200 points in cinebench r23 with -30 on all cores, cause i believe this chip being mostly for gaming do not benefit for increase of more higher single clock while using curve -30, like in cases of others ryzen 7000 non X3D, - Also most people put -30 and forget it and come and report it on forums, and call it stable while is not in most of the cases, - I just see on reddit 4 posts about those cases i'm talking about, a lot of peoples saying put -30 and call it stable but after other users ask them if they test them for 24 hours of prime64 or aida64 sha3 they come back and report they are getting error or crashes. - Also i see other 2 peoples saying them best core support only -5 to -10. - Is the same with my 7800X3D to ! with -30 on all cores i get stable cinebench r23 result, i get all core boost to 5050 Mhz in multi, but single core it's still the same 5050Mhz(the same single 5050Mhz that i was hitting with stock settings to!), also i get stable boosting, also i get sable safe browse net and games, but.......... after i read that posts on reedit i start testing and discover that after 1 -2 hours of prime 95 cpu cores start spiting errors on prime 95 and aida sha3 benchmark!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - So i decide i will do not keep my cpu with errors reported on prime95 and call it stable like others! and so i have to dial back the best core to -7 !, the other 3 cores to -15/-21/-21, and only the 4 worse cores to -30 to -32!! and only after that prime 95 report 0 error after 5 hours!!! The temperature not such a big deal also to....., on stock 76 C on cinebench r23 multi, and with all cores at - 30 it's hit 79- 80 C cause is boost all cores at 5050 Mhz while on stock all cores boosting at 4825 Mhz, and on prime 95 i get same temp 55-62 C with -30 curve or with stock to!( all core boosting to 4675 -4700Mhz) , and at idle is -3 -4 C less , and in game -3-4C less to, still not such a big difference, oh yes and my aio is 360 in push pull configuration.
@wingedtoast7495
@wingedtoast7495 Жыл бұрын
I've found that the tweaked expo profile from asus bios does actually provide substantially better memory performance at least in memory benchmarking, have you tried it and found any impact on cpu performance?
@SkatterBencher
@SkatterBencher Жыл бұрын
I've tried EXPO Tweaked (or XMP Tweaked) in one previous OC guide but can't remember which. I didn't see it have impact on CPU overclocking. But then again, I did not test very thoroughly.
@CarnivoryHODL
@CarnivoryHODL Жыл бұрын
We need a simplified way to get to your results, even if that means not getting up to the full 5.4ghz. Hell, I’d be happy at 5.2ghz.
@ConstantinoMRL
@ConstantinoMRL Жыл бұрын
CO-35
@optimalsettings
@optimalsettings 10 ай бұрын
Most professional video i've seen about this theme
@jakobnorrestam
@jakobnorrestam Жыл бұрын
Have you thought about delidding the CPU?? From other videos I've seen, at least for the non 3d variants, it seems to be more or less free performance, or free power/heat savings. Would be fun to see you maybe push this processor even more, or see how much lower temps/power draw you can get which is quite important for sff builds.
@SkatterBencher
@SkatterBencher Жыл бұрын
I've thought about it, but don't have the time to do it
@Eduardo1007
@Eduardo1007 Жыл бұрын
I'm very interested in doing this since mine runs on a fractal ridge case. The ihs seems to be too thick to allow height compatibility with coolers, so removing it already benefits heat transfer
@plushquasar653
@plushquasar653 Жыл бұрын
Hey Skatter Bench, I delid my 7800x3d and confirmed it would post! I don’t plan to use Liquid Metal but PTM 7950. Do you think I could go up to the 1.2V limit with a voltage offset? I am hoping to get an all core OC above 5 ghz using pbo2 and bclk like you did here. Thanks for the detailed guide keep the content coming.
@benperkins2929
@benperkins2929 Жыл бұрын
Did you try this?
@plushquasar653
@plushquasar653 Жыл бұрын
@@benperkins2929 yes. Waiting for the cpu drama to resolve before I tune it though but it looks good so far.
@plushquasar653
@plushquasar653 Жыл бұрын
@@benperkins2929 I am getting 5.1ghz all core with minimal tweaking. Not as good as I was hoping but really good overall.
@benperkins2929
@benperkins2929 Жыл бұрын
@@plushquasar653 is that with the PBO ECLK method?
@virboii
@virboii Жыл бұрын
would doing the curve optimizer in the postive direction yield better results if I dont care about the extra voltage and temps?
@SkatterBencher
@SkatterBencher Жыл бұрын
Not in combination with Precision Boost, because the PB algorithm relies on the voltage to estimate the appropriate frequency. With positive curve optimizer, you set the voltage for a given frequency higher. So if the algorithm determines a maximum allowed voltage, the actual maximum allowed frequency will become lower.
@ChrisKadaver
@ChrisKadaver Жыл бұрын
I have a ASUS ROG STRIX X670E-E GAMING WIFI but doesn't own a cpu for it yet. I wonder if this motherboard will have similar overclocking potential? Would a AIO 280mm be good enough for max overclocking this cpu? I don't think I can fit a bigger AIO in the case.
@lifemocker85
@lifemocker85 Жыл бұрын
Depends more about silicon and cooling not that much about mobo
@SkatterBencher
@SkatterBencher Жыл бұрын
At worst, when overclocked this CPU pulls only 100W. Any decent air cooler will handle that.
@ChrisKadaver
@ChrisKadaver Жыл бұрын
@@SkatterBencher Hum okey nice! I didn't have the time to watch the whole video in detail. I will do that now. But here in Sweden it became a paper launch and no accurate info on when they're suppose to arrive either sadly.
@njasicko
@njasicko Жыл бұрын
7800x3d in hand. Lucked out and got one that will do 6400 RAM. testing at 108.1 ECLK now and so far so good, tuning per core with OCCT.
@unknownuser7665
@unknownuser7665 Жыл бұрын
SP score?
@njasicko
@njasicko Жыл бұрын
@@unknownuser7665 DIdn't end up being stable in OCCT multicore testing. More work this morning on it in the 107.5 range now.
@jonjujek
@jonjujek Жыл бұрын
Gigabyte B650E Aorus Master use this board? I ordered one, but I haven’t picked it up yet, I’m afraid that it doesn’t support ECLK oc
@njasicko
@njasicko Жыл бұрын
@@jonjujek It does support it.
@jonjujek
@jonjujek Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@rulik006
@rulik006 Жыл бұрын
excellent step to step guide how to bury your 7800x3d. xD
@oalves.wesley
@oalves.wesley Жыл бұрын
Do is possible to do strategies #2 and #3 together? ASUS X3D OC Profile + Negative Curve Optimizer?
@darrellpatenaude3825
@darrellpatenaude3825 Жыл бұрын
SkatterBencher Would you answer one more question for me please. Is there a difference between PBO Enabled and PBO Enhanced (70-80-90c) on an Asus motherboard for the x3d chip or a regular chip.
@hootangofi
@hootangofi 11 күн бұрын
Why you setting speed at 6200mhz sir?
@SkatterBencher
@SkatterBencher 11 күн бұрын
It wasn't stable at 6400
@digant1973
@digant1973 Ай бұрын
great video, many thanks! But "asus x3d oc profile" can be enabled independently from PBO2. So what happens if for example both "PBO CO" and "asus x3d oc profile" are enabled? which one is used?
@WarAnWaar
@WarAnWaar Жыл бұрын
I have motherboard Asrock x670e taichi. My 7800x3d jumping frequency from 3400-4700 every second.. I can't get 5000mhz stable. I tried everything ( level 1, pbo, curve...) anyone can help me? I update my latest bios..even I made cmos
@danielwagner6290
@danielwagner6290 2 ай бұрын
What good is overclocking to the max if it isn't stable 24/7 ? Not everyone has the money to waste when the CPU breaks do to overclocking too much. Tell us about 24/7 overclocks that last year's not minutes.
@juno1597
@juno1597 Жыл бұрын
You're gonna blow up your CPU and MB.
@supernice_auto
@supernice_auto 8 күн бұрын
you must be new here
@jesusraya4484
@jesusraya4484 Жыл бұрын
this 3dx extreme profile isn't available on my Asus Strix B650E-F :C, my 7800x does not cross 5ghz,
@TalonsTech
@TalonsTech Жыл бұрын
You are always first lately, love it!
@SkatterBencher
@SkatterBencher Жыл бұрын
I try
@Eusebiugh
@Eusebiugh Жыл бұрын
Hi, if i use my 7800x3d with blck 102.93 i get in windows almost 5.2ghz.. should i use pbo with this method or disable? Right now i am using pbo amd eco 170w setting with a curve -10 all cores stable prime95.
@kai84m
@kai84m 7 ай бұрын
Interesting Video. But only viable for people with a Mainboard supporting asynchronous eCklock which is pretty rare.
@sergeykosarchuk6388
@sergeykosarchuk6388 Жыл бұрын
Hi. Thank you such a comprehensive guide. I am struggling to find asus 7800x3d oc profile in my rog strix b650e-i bios. Can someone help me please?
@taerkeles
@taerkeles 7 ай бұрын
I want the great performance like I got while using 5800x3d Kombo Strike 3 for 7800x3d. All I want is to see my processor to keep its temperature under 70 while gaming 🙏 waiting your help
@renerobles64
@renerobles64 Жыл бұрын
Keep talking Dirty to me Bro, how are you going ECLK me. Tell what cores are you going to Boost me with OC positive and minus Manual Mode Me. Keep working those Magic fingers and Dirty Mind PC Bro. ;)
@AteAllThePies
@AteAllThePies Ай бұрын
Thanks so much, using the PBO Curve optimsed method I got a stable overclock and CPU temp reduction. Many thanks,
@benzed1618
@benzed1618 Жыл бұрын
OOOOOooooooooooooo
@wwolny
@wwolny Жыл бұрын
Where to find this external clock in ASRock x670e board? Anyone? I did curve undervolt but can't find eckl anywhere...
@mustafa_3837
@mustafa_3837 5 ай бұрын
Oyun için en ideal 1. 2. 3. 4. strateji hangisi peki ?
@zbrkesbris5987
@zbrkesbris5987 Жыл бұрын
there is a smidgen of extra performance in manually tuning memory, because EXPO profiles are not good enough. Although the effect of memory tuning is greatly reduced on x3d chips, its still greater than 0.
@zefanjaf
@zefanjaf Жыл бұрын
Is a custom loop the only way to keep the temperatures low on this cpu or would a good aio be enough for light overclocking?
@alexc.7274
@alexc.7274 Жыл бұрын
mate it pulls 80 Watts stock, you don't even need an AIO
@havz0r
@havz0r 6 ай бұрын
Seconded, it's very easy to aircool this CPU
@madhaze0126
@madhaze0126 4 ай бұрын
Can this be done on the ROG STRIX X670E-A GAMING WIFI?? Good video
@PETRAKOV1
@PETRAKOV1 11 ай бұрын
What is the differed with stock vs clocked and vs 13700k or 14700k in gamese? only the games metters,noting alse
@Schaubnation
@Schaubnation Жыл бұрын
Any idea why I would be seeing subpar performance compared to a 5800X3D/4090 with my 7800X3D/4090/Hero combo. I am seeing 15% lower performance then my wife's system? I think I have a Mobo issue but no way of verifying.
@plushquasar653
@plushquasar653 Жыл бұрын
“Power is proportional to the square of voltage.” Only for linear/passive devices friend!
@MondoAmici
@MondoAmici 8 ай бұрын
I would like to understand if Asus has solved the DDR5 problem.
@CarnivoryHODL
@CarnivoryHODL Жыл бұрын
When OCing RAM w/ this chip, what should the max VSOC be? 1.15v?
@SkatterBencher
@SkatterBencher Жыл бұрын
Since the memory controller is integrated in the IO die, not the CPU dies, you can run standard EXPO voltages (1.4V is fine)
@CarnivoryHODL
@CarnivoryHODL Жыл бұрын
@@SkatterBencher huge help for a novice. Thanks!
@CarnivoryHODL
@CarnivoryHODL Жыл бұрын
@@SkatterBencher Have you seen Buildzoid’s easy ram timings video? Would these timings be stable with the 7800x3d OCed vs EXPO?
@SkatterBencher
@SkatterBencher Жыл бұрын
I may have seen the video. Stability depends heavily on the specific memory and CPU, but in theory it should be possible to make it work
@CarnivoryHODL
@CarnivoryHODL Жыл бұрын
@@SkatterBencher It’s titled something like “easy 7000 ram timings” by buildzoid, if you haven’t seen yet. Sounds like it’ll work fine w/ the 7800x3d, but wanted your thoughts. Means so much!
@evilhf915
@evilhf915 Жыл бұрын
I'm using the latest bios 1516, and it doesn't have the "core voltage" option for 7800x3d on the GENE board. I noticed that in the video you are using bios 1002. I'm afraid to go back to this old bios because of the melted cpu problems. Is there any hidden option to release the core voltage, or is it blocked in this bios? Is there any trick to release it?
@nathancachia1419
@nathancachia1419 Жыл бұрын
I have my eclk set to 105 -10 on all cores apart from core 4 wich is set to 0. Temp limit does not go above 83c in cinebench. Is this okay to use daily? I only use for gaming. Thankyou
@yukegaming8788
@yukegaming8788 Жыл бұрын
Dont be me and forget to change Core Cycler to Y-Cruncher....wasted three days on this shit.
@anilkocoglu
@anilkocoglu Жыл бұрын
Hello, what was your bios version ? 1101 is instable and does not allow me enable EXPO. When I do it it does not reboot stucks at black screen and if I load overclock preset it gives BSOD.
@Uranday
@Uranday Жыл бұрын
About overclocking, with the exploding CPU's, how safe is this?
@cantfindanamefree
@cantfindanamefree Жыл бұрын
I'm running a Gigabyte b650 Pro ax mb with 7800x3d. With pbo enabled and a negative 30 offset on curve optimiser my cinebench score is around 18900 and all cores are boosting to 5ghz. And during gaming some single cores are boosting to 5600 mhz. Seems strange how much its boosting according to hw info. I have no oc in mb enabled. Unless optimised default automatically runs one 🤷‍♂️ I've just changed a power setting within pbo settings from motherboard to auto so maybe it was charging something which made it boost higher as now its stopping within under 4900
@FAA-mn9vb
@FAA-mn9vb Жыл бұрын
Can i overclock this cpu on asus prime b650ma-a wifi
@PatrickA1
@PatrickA1 Жыл бұрын
I can't overclock my 7800x3d on an Asrock board.
@jfdfbkk9655
@jfdfbkk9655 Жыл бұрын
thanks for your nice video.I wanna know which motherboard could be the cheapest to change the eclk ,could you please provide an answer?
@Citizens-ip6jn
@Citizens-ip6jn Жыл бұрын
thanks for the video :D
@alkaAdeluxx
@alkaAdeluxx Жыл бұрын
Verry good work 👍✌️ Now the secret question, with witch settings you hit the 5.6 GHz as you show in the video at @34:40 ?
@SkatterBencher
@SkatterBencher Жыл бұрын
It's the PBO Eclk method, but with more Eclk :)
@Jootn2kx
@Jootn2kx Жыл бұрын
@@SkatterBencher Does it work also with a B650 motherboard?
@chotus69
@chotus69 7 ай бұрын
I don't have time to watch all this atm is there a clear cut winner on which way to overclock that I can do once home after running the wife around lol
@shagohodds
@shagohodds 7 ай бұрын
my curve optimiser won't even boot past -20 :(
@theexpatgunner
@theexpatgunner 8 ай бұрын
Great video, with tons of information. Recently built my first PC in over 20 years and my specific 7800X3D CPU can take a max negative curve optimization of -25 all core when running EXPO tweaked profile. -30 and greater seems to cause stability issues when benchmarking in AIDA64 Extreme.
@fluphybunny930
@fluphybunny930 Жыл бұрын
£600 plus motherboard. Holy f****
@KOOLBOI2006
@KOOLBOI2006 11 ай бұрын
5 min video dragged to over 30 mins. Aint nobody got time for that
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