Ryzen 8700G Gaming PC... at 1.9L...! ASRock X600 Deskmini Benchmarks and Review

[@hurm4960]

I cant believe we have APU's that are catching up to a 1060, I know the 1060 is older but its still crazy to think about.

[@emperorarasaka]

I mean there are APUs that have caught up to the RTX 2070s just check the PS5 or XBoxSX

[@jayprosser7349]

RX 470 GTX 1650 Waiting for 110watt Strix Halo. 4060 ti / 4070 notebook level performance.

[@CyberClu]

If the rumors of the next gen of AMD APU's is correct, we could be looking at GTX 1080 Ti performance levels! It's gonna be weird looking at my PC without a graphics card.

[@jayprosser7349]

@@emperorarasaka those are 6700/6700xt’s

[@bismuth7730]

@@CyberClu 1080ti levels ARE NOT happening because of memory bandwidth.

[@emlyndewar]

Subscribed to your channel originally due to your old Deskmini reviews. Even bought the A300 afterwards, still going strong! Really would like this new one, but just have no need. Too many computers!

[@techyescity]

Haha I know the feeling. Though this is definitely the best deskmini yet!

[@raminpro9765]

@@techyescity if you want test,review amd 9000 DONT FORGET ENABLE PBO ,,,,many stupid youtubers run 9700x with pbo off in 4.40ghz(must be 5.50) see tomshardware exclent review 9700x is 50% above 7700x even 14600k,,,see tomshardware review exactly

[@WayStedYou]

"This little unit I'm holding in my hands" isn't the intro you expect for some tech yes loving.

[@bdp2868]

i need this little box for yesterday, im a more than happy user of the deskmini x300 with a 5600g.... TIME TO UPGRADE BABY!!!

[@BonusCrook]

You could try overclocking first

[@CornBreadMan264]

I was looking this up before this video showed up in my timeline.

[@rbalcarse13]

With that combo, paired with my portable monitor and some peripherals, I can easily play my retro games anywhere that has a wall outlet. I love these kinds of tiny PCs.

[@valuehunter5544]

Will be interesting to see desktop strix point skus in one of these. Rdna 3.5 and compact zen 5 cores should really up the performance per watt

[@SciFiDude79]

Thanks a lot for this review. I saw these recently when I was shopping on NewEgg. I was buying AM5 desktop parts and I was intrigued by these barebones kits that are just a bit more than I paid for my ASRock B650M motherboard. I still like at least Micro ATX towers for my desk, but I could see myself rocking something like this as a TV computer for multimedia and light gaming. I have a Micro ATX tower hooked up to my TV, so something like this be a great space saver. It's nice to know the newer AMD APUs are worth the money and also that the cooler that comes with this kit can keep up with them. Being able to choose and upgrade the CPU really makes these more attractive than the pre-built mini computers. Anyway, keep up with the great content. I've been watching a number of your videos and I just subscribed. 🙂

[@michaelthompson9798]

I love these Deskmini six setups 🥰👍I believe these powerful mini PCs will become more popular as we’re getting more powerful mini PCs and a much more affordable price compared to even 3-5 years ago 😇🥳

[@Michael_NL]

You can add two USB 2.0 ports on the side with the optional adapter (scroll down the X600 product page).

[@vsuarezp]

3:06 a weird ghost hand passes on the back of your chair.

[@binusworldoftechnology5867]

Perfect for my old mmo games

[@pituguli5816]

I've got this thing full setup priced at 1136 dolleroos, 32gb ram, 8700G, 500gb NVME minus shipping. That's pretty steep Bro especially considering my brother found one of those Lenovo minis in a bin on a job site which cost me $35 for the SSD and works great with Batosera, you can find those Lenovo and HP minis for a clean hundgy on Gummy, for Emulation they are excellent. You can build a Ryzen 7600, 32gb ram, 1tb NVME, XFX Radeon 6800 for $1460 including shipping. The Asrock mini PC is cool but as always these minis are just to expensive, if Emulation is what you want ypu can do it for like $150. Might be good for a HTPC but again any of those Lenovo/HP minis would suffice for a HTPC or Emulation, I really don't see the value in spending 1136 dolleroos on that Bro.

[@Willbme4EVA]

This is a future option for me. Exactly what I need to put in a guest room.

[@Machistmo]

This is cool. When they make one with the Strix product. For sure.

[@hydraxxorion538]

The "Strix Point" APUs will certainly be ported to Socket AM5, I'm sure of that, but in my opinion not before the beginning of next year, it will certainly be the future Ryzen "9700G", "9600G", etc.

[@Machistmo]

@@hydraxxorion538 psyched

[@lukasschmidt9555]

Great litle power PC, with the 8700G with a great gaming performance, it's the perfect living room pc :)

[@UltraVegito-1995]

1 Liter Ryzen 4070 mini PC

[@toseltreps1101]

Impressive cognitive deficiency on your part to find this funny

[@jayprosser7349]

Aka Strix Halo

[@lucasvanpraet7201]

even here its a joke

[@uci8124u]

I'm building a steam cube out of it. Can't wait to see how it goes.

[@AtaGunZ]

I use a x300, you can BARELY fit a Thermalright AXP-90R if you cut the VRM heatsink down, but it is worth it. I use a full copper version of it and it's been going strong with good thermals for years.

[@Mosestylez]

How loud is the fans on your X300? I'm thinking to buy one of X300/X600, but I'm worried the fan is really loud when play games 🤔

[@AtaGunZ]

@@Mosestylez it's okay with a headphone

[@irvingescobar737]

Trying out Mega Man Legends 2? Seeing it here totally caught me off guard lol Excellent taste for an underrated PS1 game that looks as good as a Dreamcast one, and that Power Consumption on a 8700G... 15w while looking remastered with enhanced internal resolution, wonder how it does with Red Dead Redemption on Xenia at 1080p?

[@pokepokepoke64]

If we’re near gtx 1060 performance, we are close to being able to run old vr headsets which is sick. Rift cv1 or rift s would probably run here

[@DavidMiller-dt8mx]

Not bad. This is going to be a great challenge to low end GPUs.

[@smashpro1]

One of these with a hypothetical 10700G with the Radeon RX 890M iGPU would be insane.

[@kesamek8537]

Could play Guild Wars 2 all night long on something like that, superb.

[@albundy7718]

Like the A/X300 for AM4 before this PSU-sized Mini-PC is very efficient because it uses only the CPU itself. There is no full Chipset that also uses power.

[@RobloxianX]

I cant wait for the Ryzen 7 10700G with the 880M and Ryzen 9 10900G with the 990M iGPUs to come out at CES

[@Jimmysim-rq9vl]

i wish this come like 4 years ago, would be perfect for my first time pc 😂

[@dim3nt0]

It was

[@PolecanePC]

Did you used FSR? or that was just native low/med settings?

[@turboboy0]

my old pc "crapped the bed" so i picked up a new cyberpower gma6900wst. ryzen 5 7600, asrock a620m-c mobo, 1tb gen 4 nvme, single stick 16gb ddr5 (buying 3 more soon), asrock challenger series rx7600 8gb. should be waaay more than ill ever need since i mostly play WORLD OF WARCRAFT at max settings. i also have a habit of keeping around 15 tabs open on my browser.

[@evilqtip7098]

Love it it's clearly enough for fun and compact size M.2 should be 2G and 7000Mgas Kingston but other than that ? 32 G of ram min .. 8700G

[@emperorarasaka]

If only they made a PCIE slot we could have had a glorious GT 1030 in there

[@Anhedonis]

I wonder if the case could be modded to handle a Noctua NH-P1. Totally passive!

[@chairman67]

For 1440p triple displays w/o VGA, the VGA video out kills it for me.. a VGA-to-DP adapter cable only supports up to 1080p.

[@prosecanlik4296]

1.9 TDI Stage 1 pops and bangs

[@sMv-Afjal]

I am waiting for Strix Halo, hopefully it release soon. I do think low end gpu are done and so is intel dgpu.

[@BladeCrew]

Could you please retest the ryzen 5 5500 with the latest bios vs the old bios and vs the 3600. I am just curious how it has improved.

[@ianmoone8244]

Bryan can you test it with a better power brick?

[@kuyache2]

You need to buy the USB2 2x ports separately! And of course that Wifi chip that comes with antenna is sold separately too. I have the Deskmini A300 and its such a weak board (VRM wise) that after 4 years of careful use it now throttles the 2400G or even the Athlon 200GE to just 545mhz most of the time. Yes its runs horrible now! Its a widespread AM4 mobo problem that is not noticed by mainstream media...

[@techyescity]

Wow this is the first I have heard of this. Got any further ways I can research it?

[@dim3nt0]

Dunno about a300, x300 pushes 5700g no problem. Maybe its cooling problem.

[@thelegendaryklobb2879]

I have an A300 with a 2200G, working just fine with no throttling. Also mine came with the wifi card included, depends on where you bought it (I got the A300W version, the W is for wifi included). The USB extra ports are indeed never included.

[@hydraxxorion538]

You can also use the secondary M.2 port to put an M.2 to 2xUSB 3.2gen2 10Gps adapter, that's what I did and it works without any problems, the adapter costs a little less than forty US dollars and uses an ASMedia ASM3142 controller which is relatively reliable, the output cables to USB Type C are provided, the only slightly black points are that you have to tinker slightly with the case to fix the USB Type C ports at the output and that you have to use one of the proprietary SATA adapters provided by ASRock in the deskmini package to use the SATA power socket to provide a power boost to the M.2 to 2xUSB 3.2gen2 adapter, but once everything is in place it works wonderfully, and then if you need even more USB sockets, as you say there is always the 9pin header on the motherboard to add 2 other USB sockets but unfortunately it is USB 2.0 so only 480Mbps maximum data rate...

[@kuyache2]

Just search google for "2400g 545mhz problem" it is not just a 2400G problem though as there are also posts from 2000 and 3000 ryzen users. It seems to be a motherboard vrm issue hence throttling the cpu to 545mhz. Didn't see any 5000 series getting affected though or nobody posts their issue on the internet. Mine was bought in Akihabara, probably the same exact store where TYC bought plenty of stuff.

[@Skott62]

Interesting. I was wondering how it compared to the NUCs.

[@MorganEdgy]

Would you recommend it with a 7800x3d?

[@Cypherdude1]

Hello, is there any way to adjust the power and speed levels for AMD cards in Linux?

[@tonyd7164]

Have something similar. 8700G 3.9 L home built pc. I play COD just fine with it.

[@d3n0tz_]

When u have the same shirt as mr tech yes himself 🎉

[@Евгений-м3ч4д]

Shame mini-stx format is basically supported only by asrock right now. Such a great format for mini pc's with desktop processors.

[@notme_eh2918]

InWin B1 Mesh and Chopin Max both have in case 200W PSUs. Much better.

[@muhammedharoon8994]

Brother do you build ryzen 7 8700g with rtx 4060ti

[@dionelr]

I can see a lot of people only needing this much power. Could make a great mini server or TV computer. I could play so much Mega Man on this bad boy, and watch so much Bluey... I mean, my 4yo could watch Bluey. Yeah, that's what I mean.

[@tbas8741]

Ahhh was wondering why such a low power chip is running so warm when gaming. I Know the Cooler is not great in such a tiny box but with ambient temps of 21*C it should not be at 72c with 20% avg load in games like CS2 Main Problem is That Thermal Paste Application is not enough or spread properly for these odd shaped and very thick IHS on new Ryzens. Really need almost double that much and spread it to cover all the odd shaped parts with a spatual. My 7600x running at 5.65ghz all core in games only sits at about 50-55*C (without any curve optimizer yet) Yes its on a 360mm Lian Li AIO (one of the top 5 AIO on market) but still 8700G @ half the wattage should not be so hot.

[@jeffjularbal9404]

How do you get the 7500F that low?

[@BillyBoy444]

I wonder what you could build for the same price with something like an old A320 motherboard, cheap Ryzen CPU and a half decent GPU?

[@ubozkurt]

no power comp load + idle need for HT. what is power draws . bad revo for me

[@RotaryJunkie]

Destkmini very good

[@techyescity]

Sorry I made a typo lol

[@RotaryJunkie]

@@techyescity Happens to the berst of us

[@bojc21]

Man i love mini PCs like this that run on APUs and i would love to have them, but i don't need them. I would be a expensive "toy" to have just for sake of having it.

[@danielkowalski7527]

whats your set up?

[@TheRizalp]

how would this build compare with many mini PCs using Radeon 780m?

[@techyescity]

I would have to check them out and run them through the same suite of benchmarks to be honest. Which one in particular is the most popular?

[@TheRizalp]

@@techyescity I think the top brands for these mini pcs are the one from Beelink, Minisforum, and Geekom. For particular model itself, I'm not sure. Most are using one of 7840HS, 7940HS or the successor 8845HS, 8945HS though

[@seearbi1872]

Any opinion of these in a proper gaming rig? Thinking of using one in a future upgrade (from a 5800X3D), so if I ever have to RMA my GPU, I still have something that "better then nothing."

[@valuehunter5544]

Nah man because the l3 cache is halved it basically performs worse than a 5800x3d in gaming. The normal zen 4 and 5 lineup already has integrated graphics so look to those instead

[@samuelrave]

​@@valuehunter5544yeah but those integrated graphics can not game

[@samuelrave]

Depends on the GPU you plan on using with it.

[@valuehunter5544]

@@samuelrave still, definitely avoid 8700g for a proper gaming rig

[@samuelrave]

@@valuehunter5544 depends on the GPU you pair it with

[@Mosestylez]

How loud are the fans when playing games?🤔🤔

[@gejamugamlatsoomanam7716]

Why did they put a vga port in 2024?

[@danielkowalski7527]

why not?

[@MarcoGPUtuber]

Is this the new Tech YES Deskmini?

[@13bmitchell]

Smol PC's have big performance now.

[@Jerv165]

Bic camera has this for sale for a good price. Shame that i didnt have money to buy one lol

[@tornimate]

How to apply Curve Optimizer to APU tho? 🤔

[@techyescity]

there is just another setting, GFX curve optimizer in bios.

[@superpandabacon]

Is this faster than a Legion Go?

[@AbbasDalal1000]

Thought and launched another new cpu

[@betag24cn]

what i dont like is the noise, under load i will hear fans and i dont want to

[@Mosestylez]

Do you have one?

[@waynetaylor2784]

Bugger the unit, I'd pull motherboard at that price and use it in a diy nas throw in m.2 to 6 x sata boom

[@andrewmutavi590]

I wish someone could max out the 780m + something like 32gb 7200MTS cl32 or 36

[@selcuksofular]

💯

[@abdellatifcheater9833]

Intel released a Micro code for MSI and ASUS, Why don't you do a Video

[@techyescity]

Will check it out when I am back in australia.

[@MarcoGPUtuber]

How is its editing capabilities? Can it beat the Tech YES Travelmini?

[@iamperplexed4695]

I am of the opposite building strategy. Get a case as large as the desk can avail and fill it with as much stuff as possible so that it doesnt seem like you are wasting the case space.

[@LegionGamingTV]

One of these with an oculink NVME adapter, a 10mm whole with rubber gromme, and a decent GPU would make this even better

[@seanscott1933]

This is a nice little unit for sure, but I hear what you are saying about the oculink thing. I just picked up the barebones Minisforum MS-A1 for that purpose alone. It is amazing! My only complaint is that the bios doesn't let you overclock ram. It runs ram at the specified clock speed that you get. I ended up getting 4800 in lieu of faster ram, buy it still does that job. Plus with the oculink, I don't have to rely on the ram speed to help with the APU speeds.

[@gecko33yusuf60]

probably better option than a i5 8400 with a rx 580 8gig. Cause rx580 is outdated and the i5 is just shit tbh. Back then it was no problem tho haha

[@danielkowalski7527]

i5 8400 + rx6600 ^^ its still gr8 cpu

[@gecko33yusuf60]

@@danielkowalski7527 can't play ark survival ascended on this CPU. I tried lowest resolution and I get like 70 fps xD

[@danielkowalski7527]

@@gecko33yusuf60 whats wrong with 70fps? oO

[@gecko33yusuf60]

@@danielkowalski7527 the point is it's not fun to play when your CPU is giving out 70fps on average, so like you have drops to 20 or something. If you had the apu tho you could also go for amds driver based frame generation etc etc

[@danielkowalski7527]

@@gecko33yusuf60 awww the framedrops...

[@BlackJesus8463]

1080p gaming is bad at all, especially if your tv does upscaling.

[@mikebruzzone9570]

mb

[@kuyache2]

Asrock Deskmeet X600 exists...

[@hydraxxorion538]

Yes, but of no interest -> Rotten power supply, really mediocre miniITX motherboard knowing that you can find much better AM5 motherboards in this format and here the interest is above all that the whole thing fits in a volume of less than 2L which is not the case with the Deskmeet

[@raminpro9765]

AAAAAADDDDMIN if you want test,review amd 9000 DONT FORGET ENABLE PBO ,,,,many stupid youtubers run 9700x with pbo off in 4.40ghz(must be 5.50) see tomshardware exclent review 9700x is 50% above 7700x even 14600k

[@frankwong9486]

8600/8700 too pricey ... Compare to those APU mini pc

[@digitalsublime]

In this case I would go for a used gaming laptop, even better performance for less money

[@betag24cn]

if you want price to performance, do a desktop pc, no laptop or mini pc, the minipc is for those with space limitations, laptops are for those who need to move

[@digitalsublime]

@@betag24cn dah of course pc is better.... space limitations? 🤣 more than a laptop space? And the laptop is better than an apu....

[@joshuaalcantara9631]

1st 😁

[@Boemtie]

inwin chopin max would be even better