S. CARMAN: BRUCE LEE (RED VEST)IN FOCUS

Sayf gives a REAL look at BRUCE LEE'S skills!
NOTE: The stance he gets in to generate power is NOT WING CHUN! It is NOT a BOXING stance! AND IT IS NOT THE JKD BI JONG! We would never say he "stole" or was taught karate by someone and is using it here. We DO say, that BRUCE KNEW THE VALUE OF AND USE OF THE STANCE AND SHOWS IT BY USING IT! NO NEED FOR DEBATE. IT IS THERE TO BE SEEN. (DAN INOSANTO IS HIS PARTNER HERE).

[@jscully]

Enjoyed your breakdown. You always make strong points and back them with proof, in the form of video, and leave it to the viewers to draw conclusions . Love when you show old school doing what new school hasn't yet learned. Can't wait for your DVDs . Thanks for taking the time.

[@billrastorfer1105]

I always wondered what Bruce Lee thought of Roberto Duran, since Duran was lightweight champion at the time of his death, and now considered one of the greatest in history of boxing.

[@kennylopezjeetkunedo5555]

Very good video Sayf Carmen. I train in JKD myself, so I really payed attention to the things you were saying. And as you already know, JKD has concepts that go with it too and one of those concepts were to never stay boxed in, so Bruce Lee was adding different elements all the time to his JKD. Lee mostly trained for the streets though, that's why he didn't get into the tornaments because of it's restrictions...although he had more than enough ability to do so had he choose that route.

[@MrMilan225]

Great analysis. Look up Ted Wong...he studied with Bruce during the later years with Bruce (Inosanto trained with Bruce while he was transitioning into JKD). The foot stance was inspired by fencing, which he studied in depth. Joaquin Marcelo was a private student of Ted and I've experienced his fenomenal speed and power. Moves much like Bruce too. Peace!

[@TheUmmahFightCamp]

+MrMilan225 Not much I have not seen over 40 years. Familiar with TED and Marcelo. MY take is only on what I was told by people I KNOW. And what I KNOW. One good thing about being in the REAL martial arts for as long as us is we don't have to refer to many people for our opinion.

[@NandosN0W]

It's refreshing to see this kind of take on Bruce.

[@TheUmmahFightCamp]

+Nados8 Thanks. It's the ONLY "take" that should be. :)

[@kennylopezjeetkunedo5555]

One thing I wanted to comment on Sayf is the karate stance that you mentioned is really Bruce Lee just holding the rear arm down and keeping the lead arm high as a way of measuring and gauging distance similar to the way Wing Chun practioners hold their lead hand out. It wasn't from Karate he got it from and I know you mentioned that too. The straight lead punch was inspired from Jack Dempsey's boxing and western fencing footwork where Bruce Lee got it from. Everything else you said was correct though and very good video.

[@TheUmmahFightCamp]

+Kenny Lopez Actually that is an issue I have with many JKD practitioners. They seem to go out of their way to claim Lee had nothing to do with karate and people like me must be wrong when we SEE with our own eyes what he is doing! I see that denial in so many people who train in JKD. The stance Lee is taking is nothing like the Wing Chun stance and still it continues to be said it is. Lee did not use the wing chun stance much at all after he saw it was not mobile enough. JKD people know that and still have a hard time admitting it. The karate stance is used for the same things Bruce was using it for. It is not just for posing. Next, another area that Bruce would be ashamed of is the racism that has found it's way into JKD. Muhammad Ali was the boxer he studied most according to LINDA LEE! He looked at hours upon hours of Ali footage in reverse! Who knows better than his wife? Yest, JKD do not even mention Ali! A Shame.

[@kennylopezjeetkunedo5555]

+TheUmmahFightCamp Actually i've always said that Bruce Lee studied hours of footage from Muhammad Ali brother, so i'm very aware of that. Even a lot of the boxing footwork, he borrowed from Muhammad Ali. And he also adapted the Ali flick jab to the original JKD. I'm a Jeet Kune Do guy myself and I don't think like none of the other JKD guys. You have to realize that there's different lineage's and I actually train in the original JKD which is the lineage of James Yim Lee and Ted Wong and i've adapted the concepts afterwards. And btw...my instructor is also a brother, and he knows his stuff. I only trained with him for 2 years straight learning the foundation which is the most important thing and than did everything myself afterwards. And I never said his foot placement and the way he's standing is from Wing Chun, I was mostly saying the way he has his lead had out, because in Wing Chun they do keep their lead hand out to control and dominate the other guy's centerline. And he borrowed the centerline concepts from Wing Chun, only difference is, he used it from a distance. Basically you would call it Chi Sao from distance. That's what I was mostly getting at because I do the same thing when i'm sparring or doing JKD shadowboxing and i've never trained in Karate either. So I never said you were incorrect in the similiarity of the way Karate practioners stand to generate power. Bruce Lee was adding different things and elements from different systems all the time, so i'm sure he got some techniques from karate even though it wasn't something he borrowed a lot from. He was very open minded to anything that worked. I was basically just saying were Bruce Lee got a lot of his concepts from, which was from western boxing and fencing which is in all of his writings, particularly the Tao of Jeet Kune Do, not only that, when you're thrusting forward and back in a straight line is the way fencers move to engage an opponent. He used that for the same purposes for trapping and for intercepting since a real opponent isn't gonna stay in one position.

[@TheUmmahFightCamp]

+Kenny Lopez My main issue is the constent reference to what BRUCE DID. I can't think of one man who should not be held to what he DID in the past. I am familiar with JKD concepts vs JUN FAN (Bruce's real name). I think both do not give credit to Lee's idea of free study and using only what works. In actuality, Bruce spent more time training with Karate fighters than any other group.

[@SuperMurray2009]

Sayf definitely do a video on Ronda Rousey

[@knownpornographer]

nice video!

[@Willrell]

Lee took what works from every style and you can tell he had real fighting skills he is one of the reason for a lot of mixed martial art