s2022e01 - Working Signals on the HO Scale Union Pacific Railroad Evanston Sub. Operations & Realism

[@Perfusionist01]

Looking very neat. Those broad curves still amaze me.

[@EvanstonSub]

Thanks. That's part of the "N Scale Inspired Layout."

[@easternsprails]

The Railroad Co. software for the signals is pretty cool. I installed the Silver version on my empire about 7 years ago and have experimented with different aspects of it. I found how to do the signals for dark territory when no trains are present.

[@EvanstonSub]

Nice. I've been tempted to change over to JMRI, but have stayed with RR&Co.

[@jeffherdzina6716]

2022 is already looking like a better year. Waiting for the next episode already.

[@EvanstonSub]

Me too :)

[@CajonSub]

Thanks for sharing some of the “how to” with the signals. I’ve always been a little hesitant of how to wire up signals but you definitely made it seem easier than I thought. Unfortunately they don’t make very many good signal options in N scale. Thanks again for sharing and Happy New Year! - Steve

[@EvanstonSub]

I'm going to be selling my N scale signals pretty soon at uprr-geneva-sub.square.site/

[@CajonSub]

@@EvanstonSub thanks Daryl, I’ve been following the listings and will check them out once posted. Honestly I’m looking more for the modern day signal masts for my Cajon Subdivision layout but I don’t think anyone will be making them in N scale anytime soon. Makes me want to change to HO scale if I get the chance. Thanks again. - Steve

[@osscouter]

I'm not sure, of course, but I have a sneaking suspicion that you are working harder in your retirement than you did when you were employed, Daryl. I think you work harder on your model railroad than if you actually worked on the prototype. In any event, the results speak for themselves and it is shaping up nicely. Thanks for sharing with us. Happy New Year.

[@EvanstonSub]

Actually not working hard at all. It's all play to me. I know what you mean, though.

[@trainsj8676]

Love your train good video 👍🏻👍🏻 I have the same Union Pacific et44ah and sd70ah 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@EvanstonSub]

Nice 👍

[@trainsj8676]

@@EvanstonSub thanks

[@paulsmith5402]

Oooh i84 and i80 corridors can’t wait to see the finished layout been through there a few times in a semi pulling refrigerated trailers and enjoyed seeing all the up trains running the area keep up the great work

[@EvanstonSub]

Thanks. I can't wait too.

[@bkaden1]

Nice progress again this week! Running trains is a good way to calm down after a frustrating second half for the Chiefs yesterday. No mentions of holding or interference in the video, either. Happy New Year, thanks again for sharing, and go Chiefs!

[@EvanstonSub]

There very well could be a rematch in the playoffs. It's always better to win the last game.

[@GooseinTheCabooseProductions]

Just a note, any turnouts the local crew throws are going to the turnouts for the ground crew we'll have to unlock them before they can throw them. You can simulate that by putting a key switch in line with the circuit and then when the local crew wants to line the turnout it called this factor and asked for permission

[@EvanstonSub]

Interesting. Thanks.

[@ARB4957]

Superb work, what a start for 2022 ! Happy New Year from Scotland.

[@EvanstonSub]

Thanks. So I far it's been a great year. 😊

[@alainaarrhodge5900]

WOW! WOW! WOW! Amazing work on the electronics with the signal lights. My mind is blown as that's something I long to do as soon as I have a layout large enough (or any layout for that matter) to do so. Happy New Year and happy building!

[@EvanstonSub]

Go for it!

[@robertbraeuner2031]

Awesome job. You can have a yellow over flashing green which is an an approach clear sixty and you can have a red over flashing green which is an diverging clear limited, turnout speed no more than 40mph, if you so desire. Everything runs smoothly and signals look great

[@EvanstonSub]

Interesting. There's always a lot to learn.

[@johnbanicki7232]

Making good progress. Love the signal lights. Happy New Year!

[@EvanstonSub]

Thanks, you too!

[@jamesweidman7462]

Your layout is looking awesome

[@EvanstonSub]

Thanks James. Got a little bit NG way to go yet.

[@LogicRailTech]

You’re making great progress! Glad to see those signals coming alive. One tip - please insulate those soldered connections on the signal wiring! My preference is heat shrink tubing (3/64” works great for those smaller gauge wires). I use a small handheld hot air gun for crafts. You can find all of this on Amazon.

[@EvanstonSub]

I'll take a look. Thanks.

[@andrestone1849]

Big, big fan, keep them coming and thank for sharing! - Andre

[@EvanstonSub]

Thanks, will do!

[@jeremiahrindahl4117]

Big fan of those Details West signals! Their old style D signals fit perfect on my GN layout.

[@EvanstonSub]

Nice. I really like them too. Plus they are made in the USA which is always an added plus.

[@R15N15]

Signals really do make any layout just that much cooler. Also, old ConRail territories still use two signals that involve a "flashing" Green. The first is Yellow/Flashing Green: Approach Limited. The second is Red/Flashing Green: Limited Clear.

[@EvanstonSub]

I did not know flashing green was ever used. Thanks!

[@davidbrown4823]

Great work on the signals.

[@EvanstonSub]

Thanks

[@mikehumphrey7413]

To you and your family, Happy New Year from Australia. Great work.

[@EvanstonSub]

Thanks, to you as well.

[@Panzermeister36]

Great update! The signal system you have is impressive. I look forward to what season 22 has to offer :)

[@EvanstonSub]

Me too. 😁

[@derekalexander4030]

Moving right along Daryl. I’m beginning to wonder if you need a second level but at the rate you are going you might need a third so you don’t get bored when you finish.

[@EvanstonSub]

Yes, from time to time I think one level will be plenty. But at my age, I want to get it in now before it's to install later.

[@mikelwylie1649]

I loved watching your n scale layout but i think your ho layout will be even better i have an ho layout as well alot of Norfolk southern kind of a piece of mountainous areas in Pennsylvania i do have some union pacific units i am a big fan of the athearn genesis i do have a few scale trains units as well but your videos are a great inspiration i have no doubt you ho scale layout will be absolutely beautiful thankyou for sharing your progress

[@EvanstonSub]

Penn. Mountains will make some very cool scenery.

[@thomstoddard1041]

I live not to far from weber canyon. Im very familiar with all the places you are modeling. I like to go train watching there. Love watching your videos.

[@EvanstonSub]

Very cool! Thanks.

[@tonydavey3741]

Hi Daryl i saw your postings on the Digitrax forum about the signals, they sure look a nice product, the layout is coming aong at a cracking pace, Happy new year from England UK

[@EvanstonSub]

Thanks Tony. The digitrax group is very helpful.

[@Pkilznah]

So awesome. Keep up the fantastic work and videos player 🚂🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@EvanstonSub]

Thanks

[@chrisshoulders4066]

Awesome update keep up the good work my friend and happy New Year

[@EvanstonSub]

Thanks, you too!

[@jaybird111207]

Awesome progress and love the signaling system. I'm experimenting with the Azatrak signaling system and still have a lot to learn however I really enjoy this level of realism in the hobby. Thanks for sharing and I look forward to seeing your progress in 2022. Happy Newyear and Happy modeling!! -Jason

[@EvanstonSub]

Thanks, Jason.

[@Prostyle0079]

Nice detail!!!

[@EvanstonSub]

Thanks!

[@garykcs5532]

Great info Darrel... Looks like one of your tracks has cement ties for just a little bit...? Gary

[@EvanstonSub]

Yes, the UP is experimenting with concrete tie on the Evanston Sub.

[@glennfoster2423]

Alignment of switch points are typically normal or reverse.

[@EvanstonSub]

Wow, thanks for the correction.

[@barrywiddowson7987]

Great session. Wishing that I had known about the ways of doing in 18" or less in depth of scene. Mine is 24' sometimes more and I could have fit more running space in lesser depth. Too old to start over. Knees don't alloy getting under benchwork easily. Started my layout 39 years ago and now things have changed a good bit.

[@EvanstonSub]

Hey, as long as you still enjoy your layout. All is good :)

[@klyddkross]

Looking good my man

[@EvanstonSub]

Appreciate it

[@Death_From_Below]

Great video and progress.

[@EvanstonSub]

Thanks 👍

[@Vman7757]

Wow thanks.

[@EvanstonSub]

Your welcome??

[@mr.shadestrains6033]

Awsum great job 😎🚂👍

[@EvanstonSub]

Thanks.

[@wannabesawyerwatt9922]

Awesome video

[@EvanstonSub]

Thanks.

[@OgaugeTrainsplusslotCars]

Awesome ♐

[@EvanstonSub]

Gracias

[@nitrorrat8190]

I have to say you have a amazing layout love it plus I'm a up fan I'm in Idaho were its all up

[@EvanstonSub]

Very cool. Lots of UP here in Chicagoland, but they must run at night. All I ever see is Metra trains.

[@jefferykeeper9034]

Some years ago a couple of friends and me was watching CSX put in a new installation and they came up with a flashing blue.

[@EvanstonSub]

That user to mean a sale at Kmart.

[@anthonyborden2513]

Thanks for the info on your signal systems and great progress qa can you use the Digitrax se8c be used with nce systems my layout is northeast corridor from nyc to shore points nj freelance including nj transit Amtrak and conrail, Winchester and western and Erie and Morristown ho scale

[@EvanstonSub]

I don't think so. The SE8c uses Digitrax's proprietary "Loconet" to communicate with the SE8c. I don't think NCE is compatible with loconet. I could be wrong; I suggest checking the Digitrax website to know for sure.

[@markbridgwater]

Looks great Daryl. Was the clear coating on the magnet wire scraped off at the end of the wire on the Details West signals? You may want to consider small pins instead of the Cat5 wire, available at Digikey. The solder joint is enclosed by the sleeve of the pin and less prone to damage, shorting or breaking. Also, are you using BDLs for block detection?

[@EvanstonSub]

It's was scraped off. However, it's been my experience that when you solder the magnet wire to cat5 wire or whatever else, any coating melts away and electrical conductivity is good. I am using bdl168s. I'll have to try the pins.

[@FlashJonesTrains]

Nice video! Glad to see you come on over to HO scale now. Can you do a demo or how to on how you designed your dropset for the layout that's infront of your electrical panel?

[@EvanstonSub]

I'll try to add some additional video of how the piano hinge and locks are installed.

[@alconk7129]

I would think the concrete ties would be the best? Downside would be cost I would think.

[@EvanstonSub]

Me too. Maybe could they not handle the vibration of engines pulling up the grade.

[@kennymac64]

Hi Daryl, Great videos! Very inspirational! Do you have a recommendation for a benchwork design reference book, website, etc? Thanks, Ken

[@EvanstonSub]

I think Kalmbach books would be your best bet.

[@jacustomtrains6572]

Can you supply the Amazon part number for the ribbon cable and connectors get mine read to put some in

[@EvanstonSub]

Connectors Pro - 10P 10 Meters or 33 Feet Roll IDC Silver Flat Ribbon Cable for 2.54mm Connectors, 10 Wire, 10 Conductors

[@EvanstonSub]

PC Accessories - Connectors Pro 50-Pack 2X5 10P 2.54mm Dual Rows IDC Sockets for Flat Ribbon Cable, 10 Pins FC Female Connector

[@jacustomtrains6572]

Thank you

[@mikelwylie1649]

I have a question to ask maybe you can help me with and its where can i get new mother boards for ho athearn genesis engines ? GE and EMD

[@EvanstonSub]

I haven't a clue. Does athearn have a parts department?

[@68Jaguar420G]

What the deal with the doors on UP 5408? Some kind of prototype modification, unpainted detail parts?

[@EvanstonSub]

I think the prototype had a fire and put in replacement doors. This represents that Loco after the fire and before repainting.

[@fnava1987]

Do your locomotives notch up and down at the same time?

[@EvanstonSub]

Yes. They are set to notch up every 7th step. I am thinking of increasing that to every 5th step.

[@fnava1987]

@@EvanstonSub wish i knew how to do that with my walthers mainline locos. My GE and EMD notch up different

[@EvanstonSub]

@@fnava1987 Do you use JMRI Decoder Pro?

[@fnava1987]

@@EvanstonSub i do not

[@hansfriess]

Are/when will you weather the track.

[@EvanstonSub]

Yes. After the bench work is all in place I'll be able to get working on basic scenery, including painting weathering and ballasting.

[@cadmaster44]

New subscriber here and I’m wondering if your trains have speakers or if and what system your using for sound?

[@EvanstonSub]

They do have speakers. The sound decoders are ESU and Soundtracks. They are both great.

[@daylightdave9405]

Hey Daryl.. I have 50+ Atlas signals on my layout and was wandering if you ordered the Details West signals straight from them or did Lombard happen to carry them..?? Take care!! David🤗

[@EvanstonSub]

I got mine through LogicRail. Not sure if Lombard carries them. I'm sure Andrew would be willing to try if you wanted to place an order.

[@donaldshroyer8633]

Shouldn't all that wiring on top of the bench work be underneath instead? Once scenery is in place, servicing wiring would be much easier underneath.

[@EvanstonSub]

Yes, servicing the wiring will be more difficult. However, installing the wiring from underneath is also more difficult. All the wiring must be installed while only a tiny fraction, if any, wiring will need to be serviced. So, I installed the wiring on top of the joist.

[@charleselmore3999]

We're did you find the ribbon cable from ?

[@EvanstonSub]

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[@EvanstonSub]

If you go to other options, you can get them for 5.75 each and $8 shipping.

[@charleselmore3999]

I drove out there before when I was over the road beautiful out there you are going to need alot of intermediate signals bi directional from what I saw out on that division I model Provo sub out there thanks for the info

[@jamesweidman7462]

You had me until I saw that life size poster of Patrick what’s his name. Haha 😀

[@wethepeople7961]

Football is sports entertainment just like wrestling. Donors and sponsors determine the outcome of games. It is all part of the NFLs promise to distribute the wealth amongst smaller markets.

[@EvanstonSub]

That's must be why the refs handed the game to the Bengals today.

[@wethepeople7961]

@@EvanstonSub jet game was an obvious one as well.....,The layout is moving along . I am amazed at the progress you make each week. Your determination is inspirational. Thanks for sharing and Happy New Year to you. 😃

[@jbll36]

Hi Daryl. Your doing a fantastic job progressing on the layout. Do you build your turnouts with solid points or hinge points? If hinge can you describe your method? Many thanks and enjoy your day. Ray L

[@EvanstonSub]

Solid, sorry. FastTracks has great videos on the subject, though.

[@kennyklosterman3265]

Daryl I`m am excited and looking forward to watching your progress. HO is my choice also. What type of roadbed is that? Is it made of sound deadening material?

[@EvanstonSub]

It's a very dense foam material. It does have sound deadening qualities. It is made by Hobby Innovations.

[@bobp2749]

Nice progress. As I understand your signaling system, I believe you indicated that the dispatcher controls the signal, but the operator needs to throw all the switches. As an operator, for example, if a switch two blocks ahead is reversed, against your train, then the operator would need to normalize that switch before the dispatcher can code a permissive indication? Or in any case, on a mainline run, the operator needs to get in advance of the train, at least one block, assuring proper switch orientation, before the dispatcher can code the signal properly? Or, are you considering the dispatcher will ultimately have control of both the signals and the switches?

[@EvanstonSub]

Yes, the dispatcher controls the turnouts during an ops session. The local control is for when I operate solo.

[@paulkirkmanMYTRAINS]

Very cool. I'm a new subscribers !!!!!

[@EvanstonSub]

Thanks. Hope you enjoy the rest of the videos.

[@Hucklechuck45]

From the look of it, I assume all your lighting is LED. Correct? Are there details to consider when choosing LED lighting or is any old bulb/tube like any other? BTW, love your end-of-track bumpers. Very prototypical.

[@EvanstonSub]

I go for 6500K with as much lumens as possible. Although, I am still careful not to exceed 15amps total for all the lights. 6500K is great for photography and videos as well as easy viewing for the entire layout.

[@stevenikitas8170]

Painting that ceiling must have taken forever...

[@EvanstonSub]

Yep. That's why I did not do it all at once. So far, I've gone through 15 gallons of paint.

[@scrag2841]

Great video, just want to mention that ethernet wire is 24 gauge wire.

[@EvanstonSub]

Thanks for the info! I did not it was that small.

[@charleselmore3999]

Are you going to use jmri ?

[@EvanstonSub]

Have been for a long time. Mainly for programming locos, but also for the Wifi throttle, Engine Driver.

[@yankeesforlife24]

Wait I think I bought a MRL loco from you in the last few weeks I. Recognize this layout I think

[@EvanstonSub]

Im afraid you are thinking of someone else.

[@garykcs5532]

I watched the end, lol

[@EvanstonSub]

Nice.

[@dexterdog62]

Your buddy Mahomes didn’t fare so well today… time to make him sit in the corner for a week.

[@EvanstonSub]

The refs are the ones who need to sit in the corner. Although, that Chase receiver really killed them. Oh well, I'd rather they lose now than in the playoffs.

[@dexterdog62]

@@EvanstonSubThat Ja’Marr Chase/Joe Burrow combination will be terrorizing NFL defences for years to come. Both are in their early 20’s; Chase had his best game of the season by far. I guess I shouldn’t be that hard on Mahomes, he did lead the team down the field with ease pretty much matching the Bengals drive for drive the whole game. It’s just that every time I watch one of your videos and I see that life size Mahomes cutout in the view, I automatically think “hey, how’d the Chiefs do this weekend?” And also right about this time of year I also start dreading how I’m going to get through the off season weeks without football once the playoffs will be over… And oh, I think this is going to be my Packers year provided this COVID bs doesn’t screw things up for them… All the best for the New Year and see ya on the next update video.