S4E8-"Three Stooges!"- The SAD DECLINE Of Curly Howard BEGINS Right After THIS Three Stooges Short!

Please note: Richard Fiske was his stage name. His birth name was Thomas Potts. May He Rest In Peace
S4E8-"Three Stooges!"- The DECLINE Of Curly Howard BEGINS Right After THIS Three Stooges Short!
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[@silvereagle2061]

My Grandfather worked in a diner in the late 30s in NYC, and the Stooges would come in there during lunch time, and he told me that they wouldn't say a word when they walked in, yet just looking at them would make everyone in the diner crack up laughing. Great memory from my late Grandpa which I share with all of you. That's how I preserve his memory.

[@tomjones5650]

Not even a woo-woo-woo-woo?😮😮😊

[@silvereagle2061]

@@tomjones5650 Not one word lol

[@philuntaysterlingsterling5046]

Thank you for sharing 🙏

[@bobhartingministries7639]

Curly was always the best!! Thanks, Rick. I enjoy all of your videos.

[@KevinMiller-xn5vu]

It's sad about how Curly's obsession with his appearance drove him to drink heavily. Of course, the grueling shooting schedule, and the pain in his leg from having shot himself as a teenager while playing with a gun that had a hair trigger. RIP to the World's Greatest Stooge.

[@carmelopappalardo8477]

His grandson Brad looks so much like him. I wish they could do a movie with him in it.

[@mulehead126]

The Three Stooges shooting schedule was not grueling, they only spent about 6-7 weeks a year on the sets. Their personal appearance tours however were very grueling at times, and Curly partied hard on several of those, even after his condition was declining.

[@raulduke6105]

Curly reluctantly became a stooge as he had his own act was slim and trim with a great head of hair and mustache. He was proud of his appearance. Moe had him cut his hair and mustache off and gain lots of weight for his new character. Indirectly causing his decline

[@liveinthepresent219]

@@raulduke6105 Moe did not make Curly cut his hair and mustache off nor did Curly have to gain a lot of weight for his character. The three of these things were Curly's choices. Not Moe's.

[@radicalross7700]

When Moe and Shemp worked for Healy in the 1920s, Jerome wished he could have joined them then, but didn't to please their mother. When given the chance to replace Shemp in the 1930s, Jerome leaped at the opportunity. When Ted told him he didn't look like a Stooge because of his thick wavy hair and well-groomed moustache, Jerome took it upon himself to shave his scalp. He shaved his 'stache shortly thereafter and thus was born Curly. No reluctance or coercion was involved in the making of most folks' favorite Stooge.

[@valeriegoode9762]

I have loved the 3 stooges since I was a kid. And, Curly was my favorite.

[@Jared_Wignall]

Thanks for the video Rick. It’s unfortunate that Curly got sick and had to leave the Stooges, but it’s best he focused on his health. Keep up the great work and take care!

[@mulehead126]

Curly didn't just "get sick", he had the first of several strokes on the last day of filming Half-Wits Holiday, which ended his career.

[@Mannard74]

RIP Jerome "Curly" Howard .. a one of a kind and is truly missed (as all the Stooges are)

[@sauluribe7082]

Thank you for bringing this Rick. Bringing to light an actual WW2 hero this way who should'nt be forgotten.

[@tomstanziola1982]

I used to have a shirt like the one Curly wears in this episode. My brother always laughed hysterically when I wore it, because this is his favorite Stooges short.

[@grouchosays]

I saw Moe and Larry on stage with Joe DaRita.

[@ianmalcolm2552]

Curly Howard was without question the most entertaining Stooge. He was also among the greats in the realm of classical physical comedy.

[@KevinMiller-xn5vu]

@@ianmalcolm2552 You're making it sound like Shemp was a slouch, who couldn't do physical comedy.

[@ianmalcolm2552]

@kevinmiller, I’m saying Curly was better. There’s no Shemp Floor Spin or Shemp Shuffle. Shemp did have some excellent footwork scenes, not a slouch.

[@dallasmars2]

Sheep was great just as good as curly

[@jamescarter3196]

@@ianmalcolm2552 "there's no Shemp Floor Spin or Shemp Shuffle"--- LMAO dude, that shit is MEANINGLESS and it's funny as hell that you're so childish that you're trying to play this 'Curly is the bestest because me like him mostest' crap. Little kids always like Curly the best and aren't smart enough to understand why Shemp is every bit as great as Curly, just not as childish. BTW the 'Curly Shuffle' is a song from 1984 and it's just laughable that you'd even bring it up.

[@IP0Monsturd]

Curly is the fan favorite but for comedic genius Shemp was the top stooge.

[@Curly34584]

Curly was and is the Greatest Funny man ever!!

[@teastrainer3604]

I agree that he was the funniest man who ever lived.

[@bejoyful]

Always remember Curly giving his best and never saw any flaws in his performance.

[@jamescarter3196]

So you haven't seen much of his stuff and don't really know a lot about it then. Ok.

[@mondoseguendo6113]

@@jamescarter3196maybe her memory ain’t so good anymore

[@nassauguy48]

No, in his later years, his delivery and speech were slow, he lacked in energy, and he looked exhausted.

[@KevinMiller-xn5vu]

@@nassauguy48 That's what a lack of sleep'll do to you.

[@geraldstephens6612]

​......so did Moe, Larry & the director s of 3 Stooges.

[@MsBackstager]

Rick is our national treasure on many levels.

[@ricknineg]

You’re amazing and too kind! Thank you!

[@mamas.8259]

@@ricknineg I agree with

[@mamas.8259]

I agree with you

[@moonbear5061]

When Moe floats away "Hey guys get me down from here!" Absolute hilarity

[@jons.6216]

I've probably seen just about every Stooges short when they used to run them in the 70s much more freely than they did in later decades!

[@JL-sm6cg]

They ran them a lot in the 80s and 90s.

[@doug2078]

Interesting. I didn't know that about the actor with him. Well done !

[@mtlreiner]

The bent saw teeth on the head … “You’ve ruined the saw!” One of my fav Stooges moments.

[@calvinferguson8588]

WELL-DONE, SO Many devalue the greatest generation !

[@geraldstephens6612]

Keep in mind that Columbia didn't have the resources of MGM, Paramount, Universal or Warner Brothers, so Columbia did a lot of recycling on the 3 Stooges shorts. Moe had said he & others had noticed how Curly was a little off in some of the shorts, but realized how he needed rest from the Three Stooges when Curly had a breakdown in the 1940s.

[@edreid7872]

I recently started watching them, and Curly was definitely the highlight.. It's amazing how much they worked him...tremendously.. That eye poke.. If you watch closely, they always go for the forehead, which makes sense.. My brother would often try it on me, never aiming for my head..😂

[@ricknineg]

It’s all so good! When you’re lost in it and enjoying it, it’s hard to tell where the poke goes 😂

[@edreid7872]

@@rickninegYeah, with huge 4k HD screens, it's so much fun revisiting the classics I saw on a tiny black-and-white screen when I was a kid.. I'm so happy they restored many of them..

[@KevinMiller-xn5vu]

@@edreid7872 During a 1960 interview with the families of the Stooges, Moe demonstrated on Larry how he would aim for the forehead, and not squarely in the eyes, the eye poke. I once read that Shemp came up with that when he was playing contract bridge. Shemp was convinced Larry was cheating, so he reached out and stuck both his fingers directly into Larry's eyes. Moe laughed so hard that he fell off his chair and crashed through a glass door and remarked, that's staying in the act.

[@SoundJudgment]

Naturally, all those epic Stooges Shorts are shown right on a couple of other KZbin Channels. Especially since they recently did a re-mastering of all the shorts, which produced some of the cleanest and best B/W transfers from the original Vault Masters. All full 18+ minute-per-episode footages were used, too. It is like rediscovering the early Stooges for a new generation of fans.

[@mumbles215]

Ever year I go through a phase and put them on loop. Up until shemp enters. Then i watch them separately.

[@andydowling1216]

What is also amazing about Curly was that it was said that he was a pretty good athlete in his day I believe he wrestled and played basketball also when I was a kid along with my buddies noticed for a big guy he had some amazing foot work and could dance RIP Jerome you were the best😂

[@MarvinThiessen]

One of Curly's aunts was quoted saying, "he eats much too much, much too fast". There was no "healthy food" awareness in Curly's era, people ate whatever tasted good. The Stooges ate at a lot of greasy-spoon diners while on the road with Ted Healey, this proved to be a significant factor in Curly's eventual decline. His arteries were plugged up with years of eating unhealthy, greasy food. He passed on January 18th, 1952, after several years of poor health. One of the funniest men to ever grace the silver screen.

[@robertorick6383]

Add smoking cigars and alcohol to heal a bad foot injury after a hunting accident as a teenager and to overcome his insecurity of shaving his head for his distinctive look along with the greasy food and you have the toxic combination for Curly's strokes. Curly's third wife was also a notorious gold digger who married him for his money who slandered him in the press during their divorce causing Curly to have even more stress on his health. His fourth wife, Valerie, turned out to be an angel in disguise who nursed Curly to keep him in stable health after his 1945 stroke, and took good care of him until his 1952 death.

[@kevin2400]

This is one of my favorite stooge shorts...

[@oantech4252]

Another great video Rick... Lots of budget issues back then, but they did it very smoothly and still kept everyone laughing.. You should have taken a road trip to Lucille Ball Comedy Festival , July 31 - August 4 at the Comedy Center Museum in Jamestown NY.. They have a replicated set of the apartment and furniture of the Show.. Would make a great video .

[@ricknineg]

I’ve been there a few years ago and made a 3 video of my trip to all the Lucy sites as well as my trip to New York. Go check those out!

[@hungfao]

Now I'm wanting to watch Stooge episodes. Not a bad thing. Thanks, Rick.

[@ricknineg]

It’s a great thing!!

[@johnrider5701]

Curly is my favourite Stooge and he always will be..

[@richardranke3158]

Dizzy Pilots was the first 3 Stooges short I remember seeing, at age 4.

[@marlenepearson3936]

Poor Curly. Best to take care of his health. 😢

[@joeyrivful]

I never really noticed any decline in his performance. Very interesting information.

[@tracyepaul7872]

One of the .ost poignant short was " Hold That Lion". In that one, it was the only time all the brothers (Shemp, Moe and Curly) was together. This was Curly's last appearance. (He was the one who was sleeping with his hat covering his face).

[@dougsyms]

I saw that to , on the train . He let his hair grow a little and had already lost a lot of weight . Thats the last time I saw him . R.I.P

[@gailwatson4927]

Thank you for the information. Love it Rick.

[@ricknineg]

You’re Very welcome

[@neal1964]

Thanks for doing a video about this short! It is one of my favorites as well and doesn't get mentioned very much. I agree that this was the beginning of the decline, not only for Curly, but for the Stooges shorts in general. The use of footage from previous shorts was becoming more common and would increase over the years. I think bringing Shemp in slowed down that practice a bit, but became ubiquitous in the 50s as they had many Shemp shorts to draw from at that point.

[@AlanDavid1955]

I'm a part time toll collector and when I'm working I turn on my phone and watch the stooges for 8 hours , it doesn't matter if I'm not watching it sometimes, because I've seen everyone over a hundred times , so I never miss anything ! I only watch Curley and Shemp !

[@moboutmen]

Absolutely. Very little funny about Joe Besser.

[@michaeldecarlo5993]

From 1943 on I have noticed it and rarely watch any shorts after that point because it is too sad for me.

[@stevengreco1939]

I really enjoy this channel!

[@ricknineg]

I appreciate that!

[@mrfloxin]

Rick: I can't wait to for you to the Shemp videos and when he died during filming of the The Three Stooges. You have a nice day!

[@tomjones5650]

No!Shemp died in a taxicab leaving Madison Square Garden. After a boxing match.😮

[@Rockhound6165]

Three Little Pirates was Curly's last hurrah as the next short, Half-Wits Holiday is when he had his stroke that essentially ended his career.

[@Littlebiglibrary]

Dude. Who are you? And where have you been all my KZbin viewing life? I'm so glad that I found this channel.! Thank you for sharing these videos. I had to subscribe.

[@terrywright8731]

It's fabulous. I love curly's WAHOO! before he tries to lasso Moe.

[@michaeldavidfigures9842]

"Hey Mo! Look at the grouse!! Look at the grouse!!"

[@ricknineg]

😂😂

[@erniebaud]

My opinion is that the last spark of Curly's greatness was in the short "Idiots Deluxe". The very next film, "If A Body Meets a Body", shows a Curly that is dramatically diminished. As a child I thought hie was a totally different actor.

[@RobHollanderMusic]

Wasn't there a successor to Curly (not referring to Shemp here) called "Curly Joe"?

[@gns423]

@@RobHollanderMusicHe replaced Joe Besser in 1959 when the Stooges started making feature films. He was a Stooge until 1970, when they made Kook’s Tour, the last Stooges film. It was a semi-documentary, I believe, and I think Larry’s health began to decline after that, and they called it quits.

[@gns423]

Richard Fiske was truly a hero. Sad that his acting career was cut short also, because he was a great foil for the Stooges. He was a great comic actor, and he obviously would have had a brilliant career ahead of him. May he rest in peace.💔

[@shasta810]

I thought the same thing a completely different actor.

[@eeddieedwards3890]

Yes, "Idiots Deluxe" was the last stooge film to feature Curly at the top of his game. I do think Curly got pretty close to his "old self" with his energetic performances in "The Three Troubledoers" and "Uncivil Warbirds".

[@MikeGrant-q7b]

In that episode I laughed my butt off when Moe got airborne in the rubber suit

[@mulehead126]

I agree that Dizzy Pilots is arguably the last Three Stooges short before Curly's decline began to be more apparent.

[@blipco5]

Dizzy Pilots is hilarious. One of their best. 👍

[@a.c.wiggle2494]

He started to decline in If a body meets a body. He was pretty much his old self in The Three Troubledoers, Micro Phonies, Uncivil War Birds and Three Little Pirates. Monkey Businessmen was the worst episode health wise for Curly.

[@mulehead126]

Well said...in those last couple of years, never knew which Curly would show up. Sad.

[@frankdenardo8684]

Curly was the stooge who made us laugh. An interesting fact was that Harry Cohen who was the chief at Columbia Pictures was a skin flint. He recycled footage for The Three Stooges shorts being it was cheaper than shooting new footage.

[@aaendi6661]

I thought his decline didn't start happening until "If a Body Meets a Body".

[@kevincorcoran6493]

That's probably my favorite short

[@Pandalynn369]

I've seen this episode and never noticed Curly slowing down at all.

[@ricknineg]

He was the utmost professional no matter what was going on in his life ❤

[@Pandalynn369]

@@ricknineg I agree 100%

[@eeddieedwards3890]

The first 3 Stooges "eye poke" sound effect was used in the Ted Healy and the 3 Stooges 1933 feature film "Myrt & Marge" (and the stooges rock in this rare film!). I had the film on VHS recorded off the "Z" Channel from back in the day and finally watched it this year and Wow! the stooges are hilarious and I was totally surprised that they used a sound effect for the eye poke!

[@bobbylee2853]

The 3 Stooges were definitely 4F!

[@mondoseguendo6113]

Flat feet did them in

[@jerrypettigrossi8810]

I'M FLOATING

[@martinleicht5911]

Curly was the best !! 😂

[@MRaadesign]

It's been well documented over the decades that most of Curly's problems on set were caused by his party lifestyle. Drinking and woman chasing all night and then try to go into the studio and work the next day. Of course that is what lead to his stokes.

[@bobtis]

When I was 10 in 1960 I noticed it.

[@ddavenpAZ]

Great video! Especially, whether intentional or not, when talking about the eye poking sound effect, you used the phrase “in my eyes”! 🤣 Perfect! And Rick!!! The graphics! Sharp! Clean! A bit of color amongst the black and white photos! A job well done!!! They complimented what you were saying but not distract or deter from what you were saying. Excellent work!!!!! Thank you for another great video! 👍🏻

[@jyesucevitz]

this was only thirty years after the first commercial airplane flight. airplanes were still a fairly new thing.

[@russC13]

Another great video. Off the subject, I was wondering, since you seem to be able to find out all sorts of obscure information, with the Mary Tyler Moore show; with newer shows she is seen walking in the park and two guys run past her, those guys are Burrows and Burns the creators, but there is a shot of her having lunch on a terrace with a guy. Who is that guy? If anyone would know, it seems it would be you!

[@willmacintyre649]

I think it is her then husband Grant Tinker.

[@mulehead126]

I don't know the answer to your question, but here is some obscure information about Mary Tyler Moore - she was in Sappy Bull Fighters, the very last of the 190 shorts the Three Stooges made at Columbia. Wish I could post a photo here but apparently I can't.

[@davidruiz7151]

As a kid, the first short where I saw a major difference in Curly was If A Body Meets a Body. I think that was made right after his first major stroke.

[@JamesSmith-jq6om]

It was. And from that one on right up to Curly's final short "Half-Wits Holiday" his health only got worse and his performance was severely marred and his performance waned with every short he was in leading to his last.

[@teastrainer3604]

@@JamesSmith-jq6om I watched them every afternoon when I was a kid and even then I could tell something was very wrong in the later shorts. I thought he seemed the worst in Half Wits Holiday. I also picked on the Shempless Shemp shorts.

[@felipeescamilla3092]

Have always loved the stooges, and Curly to me was superb.

[@jerrypettigrossi8810]

Any short around 1946 on I call those episodes stroke curly Like when a body meets a body

[@IanieriGiacomo]

I love the Guys , and notice how normal they seem , compared to the clowns we see on a daily basis!

[@bender7565]

I noticed the reuse and didn't care, watching my Stooges early Saturdays in the early 60's.

[@Lostmineagain]

Curly, Moe and Larry were the best of ALL the rest. RIP fellas.

[@BanditsBest686]

when you say syndication do you mean recently? Cause its funny when i hear you say "not played or banned" when ive seen most of these years ago in the 90s or early 00s when they had marathons. The only thing i remember being cut was the climbing spike scene with curly climbing up that telephone pole in the door to door fixer episode(cant recall name of episode right now) THE ONLY EPISOES i never saw were ones that was Cuckoo on a Choo Choo, the other 3d episode where they did actions/threw things into the camera, and other oddball remake episodes werent show if at all.

[@pallen49]

I actually notice Curly's decline on some other shorts. Not sure the year nor can I remember the episode..But I notice he was, like you've said, not as quick or as hard with his antics...

[@twncintiohio]

I love this episode!

[@danielbowden6330]

What was the production date on this short? I must have missed it.

[@ricknineg]

April 6th-9th of 1943 and September 24, 1943 for the release date

[@danielbowden6330]

@@ricknineg Thanks, Rick! Have a great day!

[@Doobie1975]

What is strange is "Phony Express" was filmed before "Dizzy Pilots" yet Curly seems to be more energetic in "Dizzy Pilots" than "Phony Express". Personally for me the start of Curly's decline would be "Booby Dupes", to me that was the first start where you can see Curly's stroke was nearing.

[@radicalross7700]

You know, something just occurred to me. Before shaving his head to become a Stooge called Curly, Jerry Howard aka Jerome Horwitz had thick wavy hair and a moustache, in which he took great pride. When declining health forced him to retire, Curly grew his hair back but not the moustache. I wonder why. Was it due to changing times? Is there a way to find out? What say you, Mr. R9G?

[@joeanderson9852]

❤❤

[@jimringomartin]

Curly was by far the greatest physical comedy King. Kramer, Michael Richardson maybe 2nd. Any Episode with Curly is generally great. But I too noticed his last handful of shorts had him with a lower husky voice and his timing was slower. Hard to watch knowing this info. Everyone morns his early passing. Our loss. Enjoy heaven mutton head.😂😢

[@johnwhitmore5408]

A lot of shows still re-use stock footage to cut costs, etc.

[@Troy729]

They show this short on MeTV quite a bit.

[@mamas.8259]

❤❤❤❤❤

[@cadeevans4623]

Curly was always my favorite rick out of the stooges

[@ThomasGidley-kv2uj]

Yes, I noticed the change and it's a shame. Not even his fault really.

[@naturalobserver1322]

I noticed that as he declined his voice became more higher pitched and sounded more frail. 😥

[@JimSib1]

I actually prefer Shemp over Curly and of course Larry is my favorite Stooge.

[@karlhess7064]

For those interested in CURLY history and health contrast, BEER BARREL POLECATS is the one to watch. Because of the recycled footage in this short, you can view the pre and post stroke Curly. The difference is alarming as Curly is at the top of his game (see-saw), and his apparent decline (be still, my heart) or (we all put the yeast in ! ). Those commenting that they did not notice Curly's decline are due for an eye-opener when watching this short. Check it out , stoogemaniacs !

[@omegasupreme1970]

hold that Lion was the only 3 stooges film to show all 4 stooges in a film at once Curly Larry Moe and Shemp. Though Curley was just a cameo and had no speaking part

[@FishHeadSalad]

Strubachincoscow? Now that name is a mouth full! And, from best to worse, how would you rate Curly, Shemp, Joe, and Curly Joe?

[@MerryHoneyBee-xc4tl]

I liked Shemp better but still loved all of the 3 stooges right up to the end of Shemp.

[@miriamsmith7135]

I have all othe the Three Stooges Shorts. Curly was good but I really liked Shimp.

[@OzFrog48Z]

His voice changed at some point. He never seemed the same after that.

[@BuddyFellows-xd9yn]

he couldn’t do his high pitch voice, he would get exausted, and just didn’t give the same performance…. sad

[@bobtis]

I guess back then there was not too much you could do for strokes except loose all that weight to get the blood pressure down and eat well.

[@thomasa.tucker2389]

Always loved Curly… but it seems like people Poop on Shemp… He was Incredibly Funny.. IMHO

[@mulehead126]

Shemp is very popular among many Stooges fans, and he is the favorite of a lot of those fans. So many of the early Shemps are classics!

[@thomasa.tucker2389]

@@mulehead126 Agreed 💯

[@SuperMarioBrosIII]

Yes Rick, and due to Cury's declining health his brother Shemp would reprise his role in the Three Stooges from years earlier. 👶👴👨🙏

[@dr.migilitoloveless2385]

The three stooges were too old to be drafted.

[@Bigbadwhitecracker]

I didn't know they started the reusing of footage concept so early. I thought it was strictly in the Shemp era they did that nonsense; it got to be really annoying. (Don't get me started on Fake Shemp!!!) It just shows how utterly cheap Columbia was. Besser made like 12 solo shorts for Columbia before he joined the Stooges. I believe the last 6 reuses footage from the for 6 (or so).

[@sandmonjones8004]

Did anyone notice Richard Fisk sripes pointing down? I think stripes point upward.

[@Music--ng8cd]

Also the headgear and the uniform color are different. Probably they didn't want to do slapstick in proper uniforms, to avoid making it look like they were insulting the military.

[@mulehead126]

@@Music--ng8cd exactly right. Anytime they wore uniforms there were subtle changes to them.

[@bellytripper-nh8ox]

**STRIPES, STRIPES, STRIPES, STRIPES, STRIPES, STRIPES, STRIPES!!**

[@Tracy81258]

It’s still infuriating to me how much money the studio ripped off from the Stooges. They were making the studio a fortune, but getting pennies.

[@mulehead126]

Totally false. The Stooges were well compensated, and only spent 6-7 weeks a year on the Columbia sets. For that they each made about $20K per year, which is about $450K annually in today's dollars.

[@Tracy81258]

@@mulehead126 and yet compared to what the studio was actually making, and what they were telling the Stooges they were making, the Stooges were getting screwed over by tens of thousands of dollars every year.

[@mulehead126]

@@Tracy81258 Columbia Pictures wasn't raking in millions producing Three Stooges shorts, they had enough trouble getting by as it was since they didn't have a lot of feature film stars and big time films. The Stooges were not getting screwed over at all...period. That is a myth that won't go away despite ample evidence to the contrary.

[@mulehead126]

@@Tracy81258 Columbia Pictures wasn't making the amount of money that you think they were, and they weren't screwing the Stooges over at all. Knowledgeable Stooges fans are aware of that, where are you getting your information, from that 2000 bio-movie that contained many proven factual errors?

[@mulehead126]

@@Tracy81258 no they weren't.

[@josephnash2081]

Jerome Howard (aka "Curly") was the best of the stooges. The act was never better than when it was Moe, Larry and Curly. Shemp looked too much like his younger brother Moe and his "fraidy-cat" act wasn't funny. Joe Besser ("Joe") wasn't funny at all with his "sissy big baby" act. Joe DeRita ("Curly-Joe") was 2nd best because he channeled Curly''s shtick.

[@booboolips6053]

Fiske was a huge target for the Germans😳

[@HerrKurt]

I dislike Joe besser

[@craigappleton938]

The unfunniest act since Charlie Chaplin

[@mulehead126]

Then go watch something else, troll.