SA-18" Woofer Test Wednesday at Sundown Audio

[@MoparStephen]

Good lord times have changed. Last "serious" system I built myself was laughably back in the mid 90s. MTX Thunder 2300 pushing 2 MTX Road Thunder 12s (the good made in USA ones with rubber surronds). I managed 140.3dB at the windshield, 35 Hz steady tone in a 94 Sundance. Those subs have been doing home theater subwoofer duty behind a Crown DC-300A Series II since 2005 and they are still going strong. They'll knock remote controls off the coffee table on the floor above. I'm starting to get back into the car audio stuff, but I feel like an old geezer that will never catch up to where we are now.

[@clearme2]

Mopar Stephen I know the feeling. I was a crazy bass addicted teenager back in the 90’s . Now I’m pushing 40 running 2-18” SKar audio subs using old school Phoenix Gold amps to run them .

[@jeffbarton3353]

Where we are now is lots of rms but Korean or chinese or brazilian companies mostly concerned with spl. The mid 90s was the golden era of u.s. made sound quality equipment. Youre lucky because i couldnt afford it back then.

[@wadehensley5005]

man o man i miss my thunder 2300. such an amazing amp

[@jeffbarton3353]

@@wadehensley5005 Mtx was just as good or better than Fosgate back then. Those old amps still fetch a pretty penny on ebay. Pop some new capacitors in em and theyre as good as new.

[@jeffbarton3353]

@@wadehensley5005 lol theres one on ebay for about 300 right now. Not bad value retention for an old amp

[@needfospeedone]

amazing craftsmanship on a driver of this caliber, again amazing

[@BASSWITHKEV]

Great video

[@deathshoresgaming55]

Bring back the sa 18s

[@UnofficialAudio]

They're still available on ebay and woofersetc.com

[@deejay_hazexxtatic]

THAT MAGNET SMALL ASF

[@shaunwhite2383]

@@deejay_hazexxtatic not really looks deceiving online. They're big in person. The 18" cone makes it look small.

[@leonbrown4909]

Sundown Audio unofficial why was they ever discontinued

[@ericwarnock704]

SA-18 v2 coming in 2020! m.facebook.com/groups/2253281528235134?view=permalink&id=2481615422068409

[@karl6823]

Not only do you guys have the best subs they sounds sooo good while doing it, amazing tone from them subs absolutely love them

[@jasonreddy573]

BEAST MODE

[@tboneo2005]

I'ma need 4 of those

[@UnofficialAudio]

They're still available on ebay and woofersetc.com

[@Cameron0801]

Y’all should bring these back for sure

[@UnofficialAudio]

They're still available on ebay and woofersetc.com

[@iamthemaninde]

AWESOME NUMBERS !!!! Goes to show you the quality of Sundown !!! Good stuff guys..... 👍

[@gianstevens7918]

I'd love to see how the coil looks after an 18kw burp, I'm impressed. If these take 18kw burps, what the heck would a Zv5 take. I had 4k on mine on the daily, not clamped of course, assuming yours is, that's fucking impressive, I'll say it again, these things are immaculate.

[@uptobatentertainment]

Dayuuuum 💪 beast 18k rms even for a burp is insane!

[@Pittsburgh-412]

Am I the only one wondering how this sub can even handle this much power? 18k to a 750 rms sub is just mind boggling. How does the coil not burn even with burps?

[@amanteapasionado6836]

Its 15k not 18k but still impressive.

[@DavidHarris-jy4pp]

It was damn near 19K if you look closely. How did you get 15K, did I miss something?

[@audiofanaticz]

I got 2 SA-18s sitting on my dresser before SA-18s where a product line when you needed to use the machined adapter ring.

[@pimbysdesertcustombuildz3944]

Wanna sell them?

[@johnalenwork53]

OH HELL YES BROTHER

[@chunk386]

man I used to have 2 of these in my explorer. I miss them. I'd like to buy what ever one or 2 you got laying around the shop.

[@edrickmendez3927]

Awesome guy's..but DAMN 18K in a 750 rms Sub..DAMN Impressive!

[@amanteapasionado6836]

The SA line are great subs

[@Bporemski]

Wow mind blowing

[@ryanmoore3278]

That's fuckin insane...the reason I love my E series...damn good shit for chump change....

[@jermainewilliams2664]

This what made me buy 4 sa18 rev2 1000 Watts subs . No complaints here

[@terryfarmer170]

Love to have some of those subs bring them back

[@bass-n-truth-inthestix9083]

That's incredible

[@boominc0420]

Love sa's , I have a pair of 15s going in my Blazer on a old saz3500.

[@shawnwhited794]

Dam where is all the new videos at dam I hope ur ok derrick fr but thanks for looking out for the little guy with the problems I have out of these goofy ass theveing ass pos around my neck of the woods fr ur a.life saver hopefully no one better let me catch there ass running a sundown audio in there shit cause no one I know of has or even knows who sundown audio even is fr I should be the only on around here and probably within a few hundred miles range thats even rolling anything sundown audio I can promise u this much lol if I catch anyone beside me and what I'm driving there probably going to suffer from a seaver ass whipping just saying for causing me and sundown both all this unessassery drama but a super shout out to sundown for making sure I get my stuff fr fr thank u very very much fr

[@mrmagic3067]

Man ya'll need to bring back the Sa 18s !!!!

[@UnofficialAudio]

They're still available on ebay and woofersetc.com

[@mrmagic3067]

@@UnofficialAudio What's the difference from the V2 and the V3. I have 8 of the SA 18 V2 's.

[@TheCpuCrew]

Wow just wow. How much for one of those b stock deals ? Thanks for the awesome video. Sundown FTW

[@damianhughes5836]

For a 750watt rms sub that's great clean power and a great box will work wonders

[@johndough164]

Shit I'm sold .

[@nativesounds6373]

Saw this vid and subscribed..

[@UnofficialAudio]

Thanks for subscribing

[@stevenpate8490]

Please put these back into production.

[@UnofficialAudio]

They're still available on ebay and woofersetc.com

[@TheQuadfather1976]

Jesus that 650 Trumps that Cherokee lol

[@kmcgz]

That 2.5in voice coil is fucking strong

[@MrBodean2010]

Badass. Sundown ftmfw

[@kevin666b]

That poor sub 😂😂😂👍👍👍

[@koaudiomidwest9126]

Yeah but what are the specs on that Burp box... how much magic dust is in that killer

[@kickerman938]

Such a small box and big ass port must be tuned in the stratosphere..LOL

[@74midwestbass74]

DAMMMMNNN!?! MONSTROUS! My RE SX18 would get STINKY at about 1200 rms

[@JuanRodriguez-fe1ss]

I want one!

[@DavidHarris-jy4pp]

Hell, even the Sundown haters can't say much about this. Impressive to say the least.

[@DavidHarris-jy4pp]

Lol, I know all I want to ever know about Orion. I'm don't even run Sundown, but this is impressive no matter how you want to look at it. If you want to get technical about "doubling everything", this SA-18 not only "doubled" it's RMS, but went 17 x's over it's RMS rating... Let's see "Orion (correct spelling btw)" take 17 x's it's rated power. The other impressive thing about this video is seeing these two 7500's putting out almost 19K clamped at 14v...

[@allpaulsfault]

I’m sold on Orion amps after the BigD tests. Wouldn’t touch a Sundown sub but this video has me changing my mind about their subs lol.

[@95Sn95]

High wattage Short Burps doesn't say alot, yes that's high wattage and the suspension must be stout but what about the 2.5" coil...? What did it look like after that? Parker put like 5000 to an E12 and a true 1000w amp may fry it fairly fast? Having a 750w rating I wonder how much its "conservativly rated" as so many people say Sundowns, are and how much power it would take playing music for extended times. My pioneer amp dynoed at 1200w certified and 1760w dynamic (can't remember the uncertified maby 1250/13ish) so would that amount clean non clipped power but heavy use fry an SA? I burned the coil on a NVX VSW15 it gave me about 20 sec warning an crackle but my old 1000w VCW15 takes it no problem it never get even warm after heavy use but I want another GM9701 gain matched for a 2nd sub and NVX has ZERO in stock from covid19, I LOVE my NVX but I don't wanna wait till whenever/forever any suggestions??

[@MRLIPANBOIKUSTOMS]

Y did us discontinue the sa 18??

[@UnofficialAudio]

They're still available on ebay and woofersetc.com

[@TC300s]

Any B stock sa 18’s??

[@hippo-potamus]

How do you guys come up with the rms ratings? Are they purposely reduced to protect against warranty claims? Or does the subwoofer reach its xmax at near or bellow the 750w of power therefore any more is just heat and mechanical over excursion?

[@winfieldjenkins1328]

Oh baby

[@youtubeautosound1994]

SUPER)

[@haroldwilliams8242]

2 stack or 3 stack magnets ?

[@Jeremy_Hill_2020]

7:20 me after I eat Taco Bell

[@DOOKAT]

Ok put it in a box and send it to me.

[@riveralley]

What subwoofers would you bring back?

[@UnofficialAudio]

They're still available on ebay and woofersetc.com

[@Rob-ec8xv]

What's the tuning on the port, and what frequency were the burps?

[@UnofficialAudio]

Burp frequency is said multiple times in the video.

[@Rob-ec8xv]

@@UnofficialAudio My bad. Watched the video all the way through again and still only caught it once. 57hz. My ADD must be swinging with full force today. Lol. Super impressive. Had a sa12 in my daily for a few years. Beat the crap out of it and was never hot. Never had any problems with it. Thanks for the videos man. Keep up the good work.

[@allpaulsfault]

Rob thank you for asking. I never heard it mentioned. That’s stupid high but needed for this torture video.

[@CustomAudiobyJD]

Are they getting replaced by a newer model??

[@claysonwebster1622]

So what they replacing it with

[@Macho09Marian]

The U series I think is the new line

[@davidwhitten8985]

I think the U series is a ZV3 equivalent.

[@AMMAdbrownTKD]

How many ft3 are you using for that one 18" sub? How much power. I'm at the doctor's office, so there is no sound...

[@frankrivera9083]

1800W CRAZY THAT'S A BADASS SUBWOOFER RIGHT THERE BRO RMS IS 750WON THAT SUBWOOFER NOW THAT'S TRUE POWER ✌🏼

[@BenaresDarkness]

I want to see x18 v1. I know the surround on the v2 is better but it's not as cool looking

[@stevenpate8490]

So, are the SA18's going to come back into production?

[@UnofficialAudio]

They're still available on ebay and woofersetc.com

[@erikbritz8095]

This is why most low Rated subs can handle high power via Burps but i see 1500watts or less being the max Rms of the sub the 15 inch sub i am running right now has been tested with 10-15k burps and ran 160's but i definetly wont be doing that RMS power but still

[@lincolnls050505]

Now i wish u would do a zv3 18 guarantee the 18 would break a 160 like the u 18 did

[@easylooker4889]

Wonder how many DB the other models would do off of 1000 Watts. And how many watts it takes just for them to reach the same DB these cheaper subs do. These subs with the weird really fat surround eat up cone area. The cone is what makes sound. Like the surround on the SA models much better.

[@UnofficialAudio]

When determining the effective cone area of a subwoofer it's common practice to use the half surround method. Basically the inner half of the surround is also moving in/out with the cone and displacing air so it counts as effective cone area. When you take that into consideration then the cone area of the mega roll fitted subwoofers isn't bad at all.

[@robertosborn4252]

Sundown Audio unofficial any chance you could do the SA 12 Rev 3 as well ? Would love to see what damage can be done with these bad boys

[@UnofficialAudio]

Yes we'll be doing a bunch of these tests over time.

[@robertosborn4252]

Sundown Audio unofficial glad to hear ! Definitely appreciate you guys doing these videos ! Sundown for life !

[@bassaddiction1986]

Why did you stop making the sa 18s I told myself I would never own scumdown but I was going to get 4-sa18s damn it guess I waited to long

[@UnofficialAudio]

They're still available on ebay and woofersetc.com

[@allpaulsfault]

A 2.5” coil is too small for an 18”. The updated versions should be 4”

[@QuietWind01]

"too small" Did you even watch the video to see what that "too small" coil was able to do? lmao

[@COMPASBASSCHICALI]

I missed the sensor placement area???

[@UnofficialAudio]

Outlaw style mic is in the kick panel area

[@bdaudio9395]

Do an sa12 in there lol

[@lincolnls050505]

If sa is almost a 160 lol crazy

[@LiLthirtSty]

One more click lmao #sendit

[@ryanmoore3278]

Send that one to me....

[@hectorjamesbuhay4544]

excuse me everyone pls help me can i use my woofer to my subwoofer? because my subwoofer was blowned..thank you from philippines

[@Lemy3005]

When the speaker is pooping and farting

[@QuietWind01]

No... it's the mic clipping due to SPL. lmao.

[@gorillafamila]

how many you got left?????

[@UnofficialAudio]

They're still available on ebay and woofersetc.com

[@DibeezyTheGifted]

2-7500's wired to .5 each=wow!! 18,000watts!?!? 3000 above rated. 12v 14v or 16v?

[@gianstevens7918]

This amplifier is rated at 1 ohms, obviously it'll do more at .5

[@DibeezyTheGifted]

@@gianstevens7918 still... After gain ( probably minimal with that single 18) I'd figure rated @.5. getting 9k per is nice!

[@UnofficialAudio]

Reactive load was 1.15 per amp. I didn't see what voltage drop was exactly but it should have held close to 14v.

[@HoUsEoFcAtS78]

😵😵😵

[@drewelliott7965]

Please let me buy 2 sa18s been looking everywhere

[@davidgoforth3162]

I have 6

[@Joe_1776]

Amazon has a bunch.

[@jovargas78]

@@davidgoforth3162 for sale?

[@davidgoforth3162]

@@jovargas78 yep

[@UnofficialAudio]

They're still available on ebay and woofersetc.com

[@sergiocuevas7589]

Stop saying to bring back old models, with that mentality we wouldn’t have the neos or the carbon fiber cones. I love old school audio but modern amps are insane and equally reliable if you buy quality. I’m running sundown in both my trucks and I’ve been abusing them daily with zero issues and overpowered

[@UnofficialAudio]

They're still available on ebay and woofersetc.com

[@davidgoforth3162]

What are the specs on that box?

[@UnofficialAudio]

loud x loud x loud ^2

[@davidgoforth3162]

Funny....haha

[@RaloHammers404]

I have a NSV 3 prototype that I needs a rebuild and I don’t want to send it to pink star how can I get it to y’all it’s a special sub and I want to keep that way help me guys

[@jaredappleseed7037]

Email brian@sundown

[@UnofficialAudio]

[e-mail] Bryan with a Y

[@kingzilla640]

I know my friend told me to not believe anything on the internet so this to me is extremely unreal he just ran 5000 Watts Plus through a 750 watt 18 inch sub

[@UnofficialAudio]

Watch til the end. It was over 18,000watts.

[@seandepass8451]

Clipping of an amp with low power is much more dangerous than a clean high power signal.