As a Catholic and an artist I really appreciate what you're doing
@AndreyBogoslowskyNewYorkCity4 ай бұрын
Your lectures are the most important for young visual artists to review and to learn from because the language of symbols will be always with humanity as long as there will be language before we communicate start communicating telepathically there will be language and language itself is a symbol of reality it’s an attempt to describe reality for this reason your lectures are the most crucial to develop original personal symbolismoriginal style for every artist on Perth on earth on earth
@pierremeshreky43313 жыл бұрын
With lecture opened my eye and gave me a new love for my faith. Thank you Mr Jonathan
@apowave7 жыл бұрын
I wish there were more professors like you and Jordan Peterson at university. Thank you for putting your work on KZbin. Your work has had a great positive impact on my life. I go to a Pentecostal church and live in California so you can image the contradictions my worldview comes in contact with. You have reconciled many on the questions I have had about religion particularly regarding science vs religion. Thank you and God bless.
@deneseepaul68827 жыл бұрын
I kept on getting this image in my mind near the end of his lecture of modern mankind feeding this big bonfire, feeding it with our souls in sacrifice for the big spectacle being produced by this magnificent fiery of fire we are witnessing, all unaware that we are loosing a very important part of ourselves for this one expedient moment.
@danielnilsen28068 жыл бұрын
Profound about the connection between love and the logos! Beautiful and simple at the same time. The transition to the trinity was perfect. The verses of Christ bringing the sword, and Christ as dividing the sheep from the goats, . has always been somewhat difficult for me, but your shared thoughts were very interesting. To understand symbol as pondering in the heart, was also new for me. Nice lecture!
@learimus8 жыл бұрын
Subbed. Your chat with Jordan Peterson was excellent.
@FauxtakuLounge8 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure that was an open door for a lot of us. My orthodox-seeker mate is interested now in your work because of the intersection of art and sacred traditionalism... but he found you through my link to your talk with Dr. Peterson. Many thanks.
@tessysingh13277 жыл бұрын
I am so damn grateful for your videos Bwana Jonathan. Mungu akubariki sana.
@philbertius8 жыл бұрын
Got here from your "Metaphysics of Pepe" video. I thought this talk was really fantastic, and feel like you've given some information I've been yearning for for a while. (I'm struggling to find much beyond hyper-sentimentality in the religious environment I'm surrounded by, unfortunately.) As a creative person, I especially appreciated your contrast of modern art with pre-20th century art, and analysis of modern Christian art as being fundamentally misguided in attempting to emulate the deconstructionist/shallow nature of the former. You may have inspired me to try a few new approaches in my projects! Looking forward to any other talks or analysis you're planning - I'm sure that I'll greatly benefit from them! All the best.
@JohnKlimakos2 жыл бұрын
Excellent overbiew of the history and meaning of symbolism. Thank you so much for your videos.
@agathasarafianos83873 жыл бұрын
I was born left handed but my Greek Mother beat me until I could write and eat with my right hand. Fascinating what it did to my brain. Thank you for this. I'm so glad I found you!
@PainterBo3 ай бұрын
Was it a positive or a negative effect?
@Mik3xcellence4 жыл бұрын
Beautiful talk Jonathan
@eucalyptblaze6 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jonathan, your videos are helping me consolidate my unlearning of my art school ‘education’.
@ArtM-cv9mwАй бұрын
In Brazil, the poet and writer Ariano Suassuna shared this same ideas about art and made movement called: "Movimento Armorial".
@PainterBo3 ай бұрын
Thank you for this thought, it's a direct answer from the most High to me today, on the rest day, the Holy Sabbath as well! As an artist l really struggled with the Why? As a person who has found a Friend in Jesus, (who is God, for if anyone questions that) l wondered in this modern art-days what l could do or make specifically. Staying true to myself and my knowledge and messages, and finding that bridge to the outside world. It still won't be a clear path ahead, but, symbols still talk to 'those that have an eye to see'. May God continually bless and guide you!
@sealevelbear5 жыл бұрын
Beautiful talk brother.
@david6ravy2 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this, brother. I just can't express how helpful this is.
@deneseepaul68827 жыл бұрын
What's interesting about the interpretation of the icon of Christ, specifically the difference in the eyes, as the lowered brow symbolizing judgment or the sword and the other a symbol of mercy, is how this connects with something that Jordan Peterson often mentions which is an idea he derived from Jung, that idea being that God rules with two hands, the hand of mercy, and the hand of justice. This seems to run well with the interpretation of the expressions in the eyes of Christ that you provide
@JonathanPageau7 жыл бұрын
Jung took this from traditional sources. This notion of left and right is important both in Christianity and in Judaism.
@marcschaeffer15842 жыл бұрын
@@JonathanPageau psychology is Jung compared to religion.
@CosmoviZionn2 жыл бұрын
You encourage me to do my videos. I am very interested in learning about art and how it is printed in our popular culture. Thanks for all you do!
@tiffanysampson59463 жыл бұрын
Excellent explanation!!!
@tinawelch30054 ай бұрын
excellent summation.
@leslihandwork88112 жыл бұрын
Wow! So profound… this is one of my first videos, but I will be watching more and sharing with anyone with interest.
@michelmarclemieux2178 жыл бұрын
Je viens tout juste de terminer le visionnement de la video de votre conférence. Très impressionné tant par vos propos que par votre oeuvre. C'est par le biais de mon intérêt pour Jordan B. Peterson que j'ai été mis en contact avec vous. J'attends impatiemment la suite, et j'espère un jour voir vos oeuvres
@tiffanysampson59463 жыл бұрын
the crucifixion with the hangers had the freemason checkered floor and boaz and jochin columns (physical & spiritual reps).
@TheGerogero7 жыл бұрын
If it had been known that the left hemisphere corresponds from the neck down to the right side of the body and vice versa, would early Christians have reversed the appearance of Jesus's eyes..?
@JonathanPageau7 жыл бұрын
No. Biological analasys and phenomenology are not the same.
@mysticwatson27235 жыл бұрын
I will be going to the Louvre this year for three days. I just got back from Rome and the Vatican. I have been interested in this subject. Sadly yes in the lines of the Davinci Code and the books by Kathleen McGowan. As I find it the most interesting. Is there some books you or someone else has written that can lead me to where I can read up on this subject before my trip?
@brandomarxx50177 жыл бұрын
Outstanding
@sjorsvanhens3 жыл бұрын
I'm looking for a lecture where Jonathan Pageau says that in the ancient and medieval conception the art was considered to be in the artist not in the artifact. Anyone can direct me to that?
@dmitrypetrouk89242 жыл бұрын
I didn't hear that. But I read from Vladimir Martynov that in case of music what was happening in church (in premodern times I guess) was not what we call music, but ascetic practice. Although I imagine it had some similar external attributes we may find in music. So in a way "art" was inside, although it is more like prayer than art.
@brandorev2 жыл бұрын
@15:17 “literally, symbolism means…”. 😉
@freeyourmind43493 жыл бұрын
Where is King's University?
@ibelieve31116 ай бұрын
Thanks
@calsamuelson4 жыл бұрын
Excellent!
@ribeirovolantes77736 жыл бұрын
Love your videos, man. Hope you write some books about all those things so it get better to study. And keep on the work. Love from Brazil.
@zacharywilson83533 жыл бұрын
So Mary did know?
@RamiroLimaGomes-db3tf Жыл бұрын
Pageau is the Guilherme freire of the anglo world
@isaiahkerstetter31423 жыл бұрын
54:30 I'm looking at you PureFlix!
@UserName-rf5zs3 жыл бұрын
Thou hast bared my nakedness. I knew my locutions, exhortations and prophecies to be contentious flights of ideas, and a mixture of heart and mind, innocence and vanity, truth and fancy. So what seems unbalanced blowing to and fro, adds up to zero, but neutral, center, Christ, where the sum is All.
@UserName-rf5zs3 жыл бұрын
Such is a sinners life in joyful hope?
@greatmomentsofopera71707 жыл бұрын
About 50 percent of artists are left handed.
@tiagovasc7 жыл бұрын
29:00
@dmitrypetrouk89243 жыл бұрын
17:46
@dmitrypetrouk89242 жыл бұрын
44:50
@SovereignSt87 жыл бұрын
Jonathan Pageau Are you implying that the substitution of 'symbol' for reality is an organic development of our collective logos? If you are, please consider the words of Pope Leo in a letter to Flavian regarding 'heretical' beliefs in 451AD: "....They (heretics) do not refer to... sayings ...nor to... letters... nor even to... gospels...but instead rely on observational experience..." Plato wrote something to the effect of: "Arithmetic is useful because it discourages reasoning by direct observation" in The Republic a full millennium earlier. I would argue that the substitution of symbology for direct observation, like the triumph of Picasso over Renoir, or that of Eminem over Tchaikovsky was not 'something that naturally happened' over time.
@jesh8792 жыл бұрын
Pageau believes in the literal meaning of many parts of the Bible, like the resurrection. He also believes that the Bible is the message of the most powerful being in any universe, who is completely beyond human understanding. It is entirely possible that there is more than literal meaning in such a book, don't you think? Many of Pageau's ideas are not new and are teachings from Saint Maximus the Confessor, Saint Gregory of Nyssa, etc. This is not some modern heresy. This is knowledge that most people are never exposed to that goes back to the very beginning of the church. But hey it's been 4 years. I hope you have studied some of the church fathers yourself, in the meantime.
@oldbluelight1861 Жыл бұрын
Why you gotta do my man Phil dirty like that 😢😂
@nanoneuro Жыл бұрын
I found this to b an oddly esoteric talk about how art should b less esoteric.. in some sense u did not explore a single aspect of the nature of God except in a form that would most appeal, I suspect, to postmodern artists.. Every aspect of God is sacred and every manner in which we can touch the sacred will inspire the Logos within us. The talk had interesting ideas, but perhaps the absence of the Word seemed to keep it overly bound to a particular place and time
@szpoganicz8 жыл бұрын
in all fairness if i follow the logic you're teaching, that imagem of christ that you classified as a fool carry the simbolism you're explaining all along. the left eye that is looking to the "earth" or to the chaos of humanity is wide open and the right eye that should be looking to the sublime or divine is shut close, the eye of order and the eye of chaos.
@szpoganicz8 жыл бұрын
but in that sense this christ winking is full of meaning, following your logic (if my understanding is correct) art represents a hidden meaning, when one person looks at art he's filled with all that simbolism encapsulated in the work that represent something true in our deep unknow and in this case the condensation of our meaning it's the jesus that walk with whores and turned water into wine. It's not hollow or shallow and it is modern art (i belive) even if he's a fool. Mr peterson says in his video that jesus is a metahuman, so our metahuman today is an idiot. But that doesn't mean that modern art is meaningless like the case you make on the video, most of it is bullshit because reasons, but the way you present seems to indicate that this idiot jesus comes from the same place you extract your inspiration afterall the guy who did it touch it on something true on a deep level, i'll speculate that the autor didn't had acess to this knowledge you have about the eyes so he had some kind of comunion with this idea via otherway, it sends a message, apart of that your work is cooler because you seems to put a lot more effort on techique. Just trying to extrapolate your teachings and see where it leads, thanks for your time!
@whathappenedtoqualityart7 жыл бұрын
well done. as with any preacher worth his salt, you managed to link many simple and sometimes unrelated things and contort their meaning to support your ideology.... you get an A+ in the 'snake oil' class
@whathappenedtoqualityart7 жыл бұрын
hahaaa! is sarcasm a sin? (who know's, you guys keep moving the goal posts). like i said, you're good at what you do - a simple observation. I'm not in the business of convincing/converting/indoctrinating, i find it bad for society in general to put what supports your ideology above what supports the needy
@whathappenedtoqualityart7 жыл бұрын
maybe when your balls drop you'll realise when you're communicating with an adult you gullible little boy
@johnnysolami7 жыл бұрын
lol okay dude...
@coole597 жыл бұрын
He's right though, you have that obnoxious combo of flippantly rude and smug that some teenage atheists never grow out of. The fact you think society's main goal should be to financially support the needy is also the sign of an immature mind. Are you sure this isn't a case of arrested development?
@whathappenedtoqualityart7 жыл бұрын
Maybe you want to read what i actually said instead of telling me what i think, i never suggested that financially supporting the needy should be society's main goal, although common decency should involve helping the needy. I pointed out that the church cares more for it's self promotion/preservation than the welfare of the people it claims to help.
@fryingwiththeantidote24867 жыл бұрын
guys I think I'm Jesus...
@AndreyBogoslowskyNewYorkCity4 ай бұрын
Your lectures are the most important for young visual artists to review and to learn from because the language of symbols will be always with humanity as long as there will be language before we communicate start communicating telepathically there will be language and language itself is a symbol of reality it’s an attempt to describe reality for this reason your lectures are the most crucial to develop original personal symbolismoriginal style for every artist on Perth on earth on earth