Pimax is Back, and so am I

hi im brad. I am sorry I haven't been around. Lots of life stuff happened recently. Lets catch up!
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[@blee6782]

00:03:10 spatial computing tour 00:05:00 thoughts on vision pro 00:08:20 quest 3 update 00:12:00 vision pro wishlist 00:21:20 setting up the stream 00:25:30 micro oled displays for gaming 00:27:30 PiMax stream starts 01:04:30 stream recap 01:12:30 Inu enters the chat, display manufacturing 01:16:20 Deckard copium 01:19:00 headset anticipation 01:24:00 spatial flat gaming 01:29:00 kickstarter 01:32:30 flat screens in vision pro 01:34:00 starish brain augments 01:39:00 why livestream 01:43:00 twitter 01:53:00 FOV

[@PhaserRave]

10 hours of silence occasionally broken up by "HI! I'm Brad."

[@MostlyPositiveChannel]

Congrats on the move! As soon as you said "Living in a hot place" I knew exactly where it was going. You're living my dream. Texas boy here, who wants to play more VR, but the southern heat stops me a lot of the time. One day I'll be up North too!

[@HeadsetHistorian]

If Pimax sent you a loaner of the microOLED super it would be a huge show of confidence.

[@Nobody-Nowhere]

Why? He did not even bother testing the Crystal.. just basically complained based on his elitism.

[@mattcy6591]

Honestly a 3d view "window" for flat to vr games is one of my most anticipated normalizations of the tech. Not everything needs to be true vr to be enhavced by vr

[@Wobbothe3rd]

Haven't people been doing this for years with apps like VorpX? I know I have... practically any DX11 or OpenGL game can easily be hacked to look like an interactive 3D IMAX movie. And even games that can't still feel cool to play like that, even without any stereoscopic vision at all.

[@ericwheelhouse4371]

@@Wobbothe3rdthat’s a super inefficient way to do this and janky which is why it didn’t take off. It needs to be worked into the game engine like UEVR.

[@mattcy6591]

@@Wobbothe3rd I've tried Vorpx in 2016 and 2023. Maybe I'm just using it wrong but it isn't a good experience.

[@TrevorFosterTheFosterDojo]

That's what I want too

[@SoggyMicrowaveNugget]

Welp I'm glad Pimax is continuing to make new Hardware promises and never living up to there last ones. Keep it up.

[@ShaneMcGrath.]

Good to see you back and all is well! Was also starting to get VR rumour withdrawal symptoms. :)

[@sharonb.9128]

Great stream. I don’t know why tech journalists who I know, know better, have not honestly answered the question “who is this for?” They say early adopters and developers but the biggest group is conspicuously absent-Enterprise. We know Apple believes this device is as big as the iPhone. The iPhone found Apple overwhelmed with requests for software and hardware developments, they created the App Store and the device transformed the industry. This version of the AVP is for developers and businesses to begin designing their entry into spatial computing. It’s about to be amazing.

[@majikthise110]

I'm always baffled how vr keyboards don't have swipe typing

[@0x0michael]

quest does

[@nagyFerko]

I’m more surprised that meta is not able to make a keyboard better then the worst phone keyboard I ever used. I mean they have way more space for it. Look at the virtual keyboard on windows 10-11. Full keyboard, not just a cut down phone keyboard. Meta could easily do that. Also qwertz would be good and other language supports.

[@ericwheelhouse4371]

Quest just added it

[@majikthise110]

@@ericwheelhouse4371 can you use it in vrchat when playing on steam link?

[@mikeb3172]

23:26 Brad forgets about Valves Steam Boat tiled micro OLED display

[@sleepingbee101]

happy your back really missed you😀

[@snowtoad]

Great to see you back sir.

[@andyblake8768]

Brad is coming... I smell..... the roses.....

[@ehenningsen]

Congratulations on the move! I love the North ❤

[@kangjames2492]

They aren't a large company, but all of their resources go to vr, unlike meta and apple.

[@shApYT]

I'd imagine apple's watch division is bigger than all of pimax.

[@kangjames2492]

@@shApYT Most Likely. I'm a VR gamer and they didn't make a head set for us, so I couldn't care less about the "Bad Apple Pro" and the bad Apple company that made it!!!

[@shApYT]

@@kangjames2492 I don't understand what you are trying to get at here.

[@kangjames2492]

@@shApYT My point is clear. Apple isn't focusing on the VR gamer, so they are irrelevant to me, which makes them beyond small, no matter how large they are.

[@shApYT]

@@kangjames2492 oh okay. Apple might change. They are trying to bring real video games to the iPhone and Mac now with the game porting toolkit which is like proton.

[@beowulfschmidt6031]

I grew up near Buffalo. Depending on your location relative to the lake(s), you might get a _lot_ of snow next winter. 🤣🤣

[@sokola311]

Welcome back!!!! :)

[@Delver639]

Pimax presentation was good, but that music during the 3D rendered parts makes them look like a cyberpunk villain of industry going to war against the competition. lol I don't think it's going to have a good launch though. Hardware wise it is set to be a fenomenal headset, but the software part is still their Achilles' heel and by putting so much efford into modularity for expandability will make it a nightmare to consolidate a good, robust and stable software package, yet again. They have so much potention with each iteration, yet underdeliver due to unreliable software and compatibility issues. I think they should not rush things this time because their direct competitors won't launch anything either affordable or in a couple of years, so if they focus on making this product as perfect as possible (specially the software), it will sell much much more than the Crystal and age very well when the competition reach them.

[@Horendus123]

I want micro OLED for my left eye and QLED for my right eye. Is that too much to ask for?

[@OdyBeRidin]

Hey Brad you asked if Pimax shipped the higher FOV lenses for the Crystal and the answer is yes, from all the reviews, they were horrible, binocular overlap was bad and some other bad "Pimax" shennagans going on with them

[@dallelama8874]

I'm hyped 🙏 Thank you Brad 😉

[@ericwheelhouse4371]

Quest just added swipe to text. It’s pretty nice. I still wish you could pin a keyboard to auto lay on a flat surface then you’d get physical touch tap to text.

[@ReavoEnd]

i hate things touching my neck. feels too restrictive! happy you made the move. you seem way more energetic now.

[@mattellis2047]

Great to see you back , any more news on the Samsung/Google headset ?

[@brandonfrancken5955]

Hey Bradley im from WI who moved down to FL! I miss home a lot and will be coming back, visit the fox cities!

[@ToweringToska]

You need a Chillet neck pillow.

[@adriankoch964]

All I want is a wireless Bigscreen Beyond 2 with eye and inside-out tracking. Wider FoV and higher PPD are optional :(

[@thej0ker249]

Missed ya Bradley

[@kurousagi1339]

YES! YOU’RE BACK! Bro I’ve been Bradley-deprived for far too long! 😱 I kept checking your channel a couple times the past month. Had no idea you moved. Hope your move continues to progress smoothly. Wisconsin cheese!! 🧀 Love your rambles and geeking out over stuff. It’s on the same wavelength as me.

[@DasJev]

I wish Pimax would spends as much money quality assurance and customer support as they do on ads and empty faces

[@lefteriseleftheriades7381]

After trying the beyond, i have to say that I am disappointed because looking off-center gives a distorted and blurred image. My ideal headset would be the beyond but with a 3" RGB striped QD-OLED 2.5K panel running at 90Hz with a 50mm lens, and a softer cable like the speedflex cable of razer.

[@tomc1380]

Seems that micro-oled panels are currently limited to 1.5 inches (vs 2.5 in Qled). Hence smaller sweet spot and FOV. Always trade offs, lol!

[@lefteriseleftheriades7381]

@@tomc1380 which is weird usually shrinking things is the difficult part

[@ji3200]

Hi Brad, if i supersample higher than Beyond headset resolution, is that gonna end up having compress image?

[@hanswurst3811]

uuhhh steroscopic mode :D like 3d vision ;D would be awesome !

[@drumbri]

I am still waiting for my wide fov lenses that were promised for the crystal last September and paid for last July. Pimax is notorious for promising at lot then never really getting around to it till everybody is PISSED OFF! It would be nice if they completed an old feature improvement before coming out with more and more versions of the same headset.

[@valzzu]

i'm thinking of buying a pcvr headset this summer and was thinking of index but should i wait longer and see if valve releases their new headset?

[@nickmajora]

Liked cause it's funny.

[@wasvreta]

finally, rgb pimax

[@theworddoner]

Why wouldn’t the pimax Crystal light not have eye tracking? That would have made it far more appealing than otherwise. It’s still not a bad product on paper

[@rickaron7593]

I finally have a beast pc that can take advantage of these headsets but I can't imagine using such a heavy headset. I'll wait for the quest pro 2.

[@rickaron7593]

I live in florida Brad. I love wearing my 1 pound headset. There is a wonderful invention called air conditioning.

[@anthony631]

But he now has the added benefit of...not being in Florida

[@sean.d7171]

How is pimax crystal super going to get 3840 x 3840 at 120hz. Or are the telling porkys again just like the 160hz with the og crystal .

[@aj2228]

internationally pimax doesn't sell that much, but in the chinese domestic market, pimax does really well with VR arcades and such.

[@DrunkAncestor]

No monitor gang 🤘

[@laartwork]

Weight isn't an issue. Just use counterweights on back. Then add comfort strap.

[@exodous02]

Man, I wish you were in your AVP. Don't need to see your face or your fursona, I want to see a FPV of your AVP setup.

[@chrisr5675]

You say the weather is nice but it's April. Also quest 3 with high resolution oled would do the same thing, but more.

[@greatguy2003]

My Quest 3 has handle bars at the bottom of the task bar and the windows. Maybe it's been updated since you last used it?

[@highpraise-highcritic]

The distance switching button on the tool bar ( to the left of pass through) changes between the two if hand tracking is on.

[@sukieiscute]

Bro you scared me so bad with the beginning holy

[@leifmessinger]

Pimax is coming, and so am I

[@Professor_Bugs]

💦💦💦💦💦💦💦💦

[@dv6363]

Bro got a new baby(avp) ... And not leaving it anytime soon.. he's holding it tighter...

[@Gorilla_Jones]

The pillow 🤦‍♂️

[@keldonsmith3560]

Do you still ever use your big screen beyond?

[@SargonDragon]

When you say the Valve Index isn't being manufactured anymore, does that mean only the headset itself? Or do you mean they aren't making the controllers and basestations anymore either? Because if it's the latter, this would have big implications for current headsets that rely on the lighthouse ecosystem, too. Like the Bigscreen Beyond and Pimax.

[@dathyr1]

Thanks for your response comments in your video about the new PIMAX Crystal headsets. You are very good at seeing through all their sales talk. Other than the PIMAX Lite for 699 dollars ( which is all i can afford) , The other bundles are again way too expensive for me to even think about. I am still very hesitant in getting any PIMAX products - I don't trust their quality. I will continue to watch video reviews and comments when devices are released. Yes, I agree, PIMAX is pushing out too many products all at once, and not focusing on just one to make it be good quality. I don't trust them at this time. They are too aggressive. Thanks for this video review and your honest comments on what you learned about PIMAX by using a Crystal headset

[@B4nan0n]

in the video they said: starting from 699 for the crystal light, in the website now says 899, i am missing something?

[@Nobody-Nowhere]

There are two versions of it, QLED & LCD.

[@OdyBeRidin]

The Bigscreen beyond has "5K" OLED panels 2880 X2880 @ (5120 X 2160 resolution). The Pimax Crystal Super OLED has "4K" panels (3840 X 2160) would that be the correct resolution for the Pimax OLED headset??

[@Nobody-Nowhere]

They are stating the same 3840 x 3840 (14.7MP) for the QLED & OLED versions. Also, Bigscreen does not have 2880 X 2880 (thats Crystal, 8.4MP) , but 2560x2560 (6.5MP).

[@OdyBeRidin]

@@Nobody-Nowhere Ok, thanks so much for the clarification !

[@Tenkin42]

@@Nobody-Nowhere if the screen is the BOE one, it will be 3840x3552

[@CaryMGVR]

*How're those "Pimax12K" pre-orders coming along ...?? lol* *Great video, Brad!* 🖖❤

[@sean.d7171]

2028 and 75hz

[@CaryMGVR]

@@sean.d7171 *lol* []^ )

[@HaroldSchmarold]

calling me out like that, at the start of a video, is crazy. you got me. lol

[@claybomb1064]

Pimax #1 most superior HMD 🇨🇳👍

[@user-tw2xq5co1g]

When is quest 4 coming? GTA San Andreas? Valve index 2?

[@qxmega]

1:15:20 So, no local dimming > local dimming? Can somebody elaborate on why you wouldn't just get the local dimming version? Are there objective downsides other than costing more money?

[@float32]

Maybe bloom? I enjoy bloom more than grey blacks on my quest pro.

[@user-jp3ri2ul5m]

No DFR for the light version kills it for me. Good luck driving that resolution at high fps even with 4090.

[@thebubba1]

sweeviver works for pimax???

[@SINfromPL]

For 5 years

[@float32]

Unsubbed after realizing how hard he was shilling some of it.

[@shawnfromportland]

Banger episode

[@ivana6141]

The internet was a lovely place for a while...and then brad came back

[@ericwheelhouse4371]

That one stand of hair you kept trying to brush aside the entire time and it never stayed bothered me the whole video

[@3d1stp3rs0n]

Lol, so basically, Vision Pro is the perfect VR device for you, far better than anything else. It changed your life, and you can not imagine living without it anymore. You even appear happier in this video than before, which is nice. That's the best ad for Vision Pro! 😅 Maybe there will be a cheaper successor in the future, maybe without this front screen showing your eyes. That's completely unnecessary, IMHO.

[@edwinungerer7989]

where are you beo

[@peanutpomsky520]

Woof

[@ToweringToska]

Woof!

[@tobiasjennerjahn8659]

Wake me up when pimax fixes their software stack. I'm still much more interested in a bigscreen beyond vs a pimax crystal, but if they fixed their software than it would at least become a viable product with an actual value add and not a toin coss.

[@brianschwarm8267]

And then they’d have to overhaul their terrible customer service from the ground up. I shouldn’t need to email them back and forth like 40 times to get them to accept my return.

[@killdano]

They better make a Super bundle that is the headset only, cause I'm not using those shit controllers.

[@mikeb3172]

Pimax is about 5 years out of touch...

[@michaelcarson8375]

Glad to see your are still alive. I was concerned your vision pro broke like others have been reported on the internet. I won't own any meta product ever since their Rift S lie. I do not have a meta/fbutt account. Oculus is gone and I am waiting for valve to wow me.

[@killdano]

So the headsets are 120hz but wireless is only 90hz. Disappointed. I thought 60ghz had all this bandwidth.

[@laartwork]

Lol. I guess haters have to find something to complain about. 90hz is worth complaining about?

[@tomc1380]

I'm more disappointed that the 60G wireless module isn't compatible with the new Super and Light versions. Maybe Pimax will develop a wireless option for those in the future?

[@SoulTaker78]

@@laartwork I thought I heard people saying it was only getting 60hz at CES which really disappointed me but hearing it's 90hz makes me think it would be worth it. Would be nice if they could do 120hz though.

[@Nobody-Nowhere]

@@tomc1380 You cant run 14.7MP headset wireless, the fact that it can do the Crystals 8.4MP @ 90hz is already insane. No other wireless solution comes even close to that.

[@Nobody-Nowhere]

@@SoulTaker78 In CES it was doing only 60Hz and half the res, the final is full resolution @ 90Hz. Thanks to foveated transport, so it uses eye tracking to compress the stream. So you get perfect quality where you are looking at and compressed outside your vision.

[@ErrorRaffyline0]

the intro hurt my ears so much

[@joefuller3467]

Q3 if modded properly is very comfortable

[@kristaps2010]

@58:35 haha, is this another one?!!! I'm glad I watched the show on my own being able to enjoy, I think it's really good. Pimax has enough of experience good/bad, I am sure Crystal Light will be good product from start. Crystal Light with Local dimming for simracing will be good enough. I never had VR headset, same time I see many people on 3rd, 4th, 5th gen headsets, every gen is better. I saved quite a bit of money as late player in VR. My first VR ever ordered. thank for stream

[@jemdejager]

you yap toooooo much

[@cadence734]

@sadlyitsbradley, have you tried Simula VR?

[@user-tw2xq5co1g]

We want leaks for Meta quest 4 and valve index 2.

[@MetalDeathHead]

Dude its better to pause the pimax video when you talk rather than talking over someone

[@jamiesalmonsculpture8599]

VR will never go mainstream UNTIL ( and I'm hoping you'll talk about it One-day): vergence-accommodation conflict is solved. It's the elephant in the room no ones talking about. In fact it's so important and fundamental to mass VR adoption, no companies want to talk about it. Why? Because there's no fix yet for it. It's why most people can't handle VR. It's a neuroscience problem related to our focusing abilities. How we perceive and "see" the real world, is nothing like a VR display. Our brains and visual systems are thrown out of whack by current VR technology. Sadly, it means going back to the drawing board with VR displays and lenses. Meta are trying with varifocal lenses but it's a long way out. As for spatial computing.....? It won't matter until this neuroscience barrier is removed. Companies just focus on higher res displays, wider fov, etc, as that's all they have the technology to fix right now, and sell hardware. They're actually less important than the big issue mentioned above. Which means VR will not be replacing anything. Sorry guys Anyway, Elegant is not a word Pimax should EVER use to describe their hardware. Ponytail guy Josh got fired?! Oh Pimax.....😢

[@tobiasjennerjahn8659]

I don't think the lack of varifocal displays are what's keeping vr headsets to reach mainstream adoption at all. Yes, it's an issue and I'm looking forward to the day it gets solved, but no one is saying "oh, vr is cool, but I'm not buying/using a headset until it has varifocal displays". VR isn't mainstream, because the cost/benefit calculation does not work for most people. VR is too expensive, and too cumbersome to use with too little content / applications. If people have to choose between a Quest 3 and Playstation 5, they're going to buy the playstation. And rightly so. And if you look at the steam hardware survey, 1080p monitors are still the most popular and they're paired with low-end to midrange gpu's. People are going to buy a better monitor, or a better gpu, before they spend money on a vr headset, because those things are much more versatile. Varifocal is way down on the list of issues that need to be fixed for VR to go mainstream.

[@jamiesalmonsculpture8599]

I totally disagree. The problem I mentioned is THE barrier to mainstream adoption. You don't see it, as you're a VR veteran (if you're seeing Brad's posts). The people who aren't VR pros need this issue to be solved. That's when they put on a headset and say "it's just how my eyes and brain experience the real world ". No eye strain, nausea, and that whole "get this thing off my head" That's when VR becomes the next BIG thing . Until then it's a niche loved by the loyal fans of it only

[@highpraise-highcritic]

It's a problem .. but why is the space is growing with more enthusiasm and adopters than ever. Your "final nail in the coffin" is a thumb tack at best.

[@underflip2]

Everyone keep trying to make inside out tracking sound better that external tracking and it infuriates me. I love and want external tracking on my headset

[@highpraise-highcritic]

It's almost like tech involves iterations of failures.

[@CaptnYestrday]

I don't think a valve deckard or index 2 headset would cost $1,200 to 1,600 as we've seen speculated in various places. If lighthouse tech is still used, sure, but if lighthouse is out of the picture, And the price wouldn't be 1600 even with eye tracking, wireless, and inside out controller tracking akin to quest pro.

[@jamescampbell8482]

I know you are worried about Pimax tackling the logistics of the exchangeable lenses and display engine, but they have access to domestic manufacturing infrastructure. They can probably swing the risk due to how close they are to parts.

[@slothsarecool]

keep forgetting it’s a Chinese company, I wouldn’t buy it for that alone

[@laartwork]

Everything is made in China

[@SINfromPL]

​@@laartworknot everything is designed and runs from Chinese servers. But hey pimax shills gotta shill!

[@kangjames2492]

Most of what you already buy is from China

[@Nobody-Nowhere]

scary china coming for you... there are always racists, hating stuff based on what country produces it.

[@l8knight845]

Yeah Not a single item in your home from China! Lol

[@kangjames2492]

Your response to everything they are doing is completely pessimistic. Let's hope they succeed. The delivered and are delivering on all of their crystal promises and are the only company truly foccused on pc vr. PImax must have stole a puppy from you or something😊

[@tobiasjennerjahn8659]

It's healthy skepticism, not pessimism. He generally responds positive to their product ideas, but isn't convinced they can execute on that. Given Pimax's past track record that's a perfectly valid opinion to have.

[@kangjames2492]

@tobiasjennerjahn8659 I would say he's being pessimistic with his skepticism. I like Bradley, but I've listened to all his commentary about Pimax, and his posture right off the bat to pimax is usually negative.

[@drmikehuntphd7905]

Intensely unlikeable as always, Brad.

[@Deighvihd]

Oh cool I just visited Appleton Wisconsin for work not too long ago. Try Simon’s Cheesebif you have a chance

[@cuervos69]

Foo talked down on AVP when it came out, and now rocking it 😂