BigScreen Beyond In-Depth Preview - Fun for Early Adopters

[@rustywastakenwastaken]

132 hours of steamvr in 2 weeks dude was just eating sleeping and gaming i respect it honestly

[@kevinbrook7033]

Definitely few people on the planet more qualifed to talk about long term headset comfort than Brad!

[@TAC0FACE]

Wonder what he's playing. I'm into rpgs, I've gotten at least that much time in Zenith. Waiting for Ilysia... My dream game would be something like Diablo 4 in VR. My Quest2, w VR Ears +m2 pro strap is heavy AF. Gives me chronic back ache lol.

[@JayOhm]

​@@TAC0FACE Well, he spent 80% of it in VRChat. Still doesn't answer the question of what he was doing there, though, VRC is a big place.

[@TerraMagnus]

@@TAC0FACE I imagine we're going to see some VRchat content coming out of that binge.

[@Datenschutz_Datenschutz]

workaholic 😂

[@CobaltSpace]

In case you missed it for the new SteamVR Beta (1.26.1), the controllers are no longer inside out on Linux. Async Reprojection functions good enough on Wayland (from 1.25). Currently, the biggest issue appears to be Overlay Wobble/Jitter/Artifacting (Issue 395). Also WlxOverlay.

[@mayatheshy8919]

I wasn't expecting a surprise cameo of myself 😂

[@Daniel-be6cj]

This might be the first one to seriously make me consider upgrading my Index. I love the thing, but I need that OLED

[@starvexia]

Thank you for the video! I know it's already been said but yeah this mic is amazing, maybe one of you guys could recommend an affordable shotgun mic for desktop games of similar quality? If you've got any ideas don't be afraid to reply!

[@sYd6point7]

This is the one I am looking to upgrade to. Nothing else turns my crank. The rest are "Cell phone VR" with a bit of meat. #PCVRisKing

[@CC-oi8gr]

That mic reveal blew my mind; Phenomenal quality for an HMD

[@blaster1185]

I think we can think ThrillSeeker for that, he pushed hard for a good mic when in contact with Bigscreen.

[@zenithquasar9623]

Wow, that mic is insane! Most devices don't have a mic like this!

[@Shinyshoesz]

This headset, just from looking at it, is precisely what I think the future will look like for VR. Hilarious Brad that you, of all people, are scared by the fact that it's so easy to pass the time in it haha. Love to hear it haha. I think that comfort is really maybe the #1 thing holding VR back though for real -- more so than high fidelity graphics (though this will be something that will come over time). It has to be as easy and as simple as booting up your controller on a console or a pair of glasses. What prevents me from a full day of VR gaming versus flatscreen is usually some mix of comfort and ease of use of the software. Thanks for keeping us in the loop! :)

[@Soul-Burn]

Was thinking "man that mic sounds great", and then you hit us with "the audio is recorded from the hmd".

[@SadlyItsBradley]

Heheh

[@JonathonBarton]

SPOILERS! 😹😹😹

[@FahmiZFX]

I'm surprised that it can pick up from that distance and doesnt even need to be directed at all to the mic pickup, yet it sounds so good.

[@WizardCM-1337]

Honestly this blew my mind. The mic sounds incredible for what it is.

[@handlemonium]

Daaaaaaaaaaaaang this mic 🤯👌

[@WestonHawk]

It's great to see Brad so excited about a new VR headset, his energy is infectious. Feels like we've been coping forever. It can only get better from here!

[@Datenschutz_Datenschutz]

Thanks for your impressions. If all of that is true, the beyond is a big disappointment. So keep waiting for those 5000-10000 nit Micro OLED screens which will better match the pancake lenses and anti-reflection precautions. My next PC HMD will be probably "unfortunately" one with a Mini LED backlight.

[@Woopass90]

Not one of the early reviewers have used the term 'big disappointment'. They are all saying it is an amazing HMD.

[@Datenschutz_Datenschutz]

@@Woopass90 That's your opinion. I don't need an OLED HMD that is as "bright" as an Arpara VR (maybe a bit brighter if you run it at maximum brightness). I thought the far more advanced MicroOLED panels would be used here, but i'm disappointed with what they will offer. + No audio solution, no eye tracking, €1400. I guess maybe in 2 years there will be really good MicroOLED VR HMDs.

[@dtz1000]

I thought the Pimax Crystal wasn't that bright. This one is even dimmer than that, so that's a big no for both of those headsets. I'll stick with Quest Pro for the time being.

[@WikiPeoples]

Brad should do consulting for VR hardware companies. Dude is a wealth of insanely valuable information that these guys should all be paying attention to and paying him for!

[@ViperVenoM13]

Ikr? I've been thinking about how down fov is more important than up fov , because we have tendency to look to our hand and where we put feet. And i had a problem with the vive pro 2 having the sweet spot low in the lenses which make the up fov bigger than the low fov. And no reviewer was talking about that at the time. It's the first time i heard a KZbinr adresses this point

[@fettuccine723]

I'm going to go ahead and pre-order it, this is exactly the push that I needed thanks Brad excited to replace my Vive pro 2 that has me drenched in sweat whenever I use it for over 5 hours lol.

[@BB-qp5xo]

I’m VP2 also but won’t go in direction because I think the FOV and no wireless will be a bigger issue than the gain of comfort. Would love your thoughts though.

[@fettuccine723]

@@BB-qp5xo for me I don't think the field of view is going to be that big of a deal, It will certainly be less than the pro 2, but I don't think the field of view was ever that groundbreaking on it in the first place honestly. Like going back to a quest 2 The biggest thing I miss is the clarity and the colors, I don't mind the field of view too much, and if the clarity and the colors are even better than the quest 2 I think it would make it an even better experience. I'm going to try playing with the display pushed back a little bit (that button on the left that pushes it back) for like a week before the headset arrives so I'm used to a smaller field of view lol. I feel like If enough of the product testers say that the field of view is good enough while having experienced headsets like the pimax and the Vive pro 2 it's probably not going to be as bad as people think, the only headset that I ever truly noticed it and couldn't get immersed was the HP reverb G2 and I think this will definitely be a step up in terms of field of view. As for wireless I could definitely see how that's a downgrade for you, personally I don't use the wireless since I like having it at full resolution and 99% of the time I play sitting down (I have a big recliner in the center of the room, it's awesome because you can spin really fast and if you're playing VR chat for like 10 hours sometimes you just want to sit down crisscross applesauce, lay down, sit up, all that stuff it's super comfortable lol) so for me the cable isn't a big deal at all, I thought the quest 2 was the coolest thing when it came out but then I realized with streaming the compression was bad, and biggest of all was the battery life like I know I sound like a mega loser but there's sometimes where I will be in VR for over 10 hours and I'll see so many quest people tap out so quickly because they have to charge, the only ones that don't are tethered to the wall and it defeats the purpose since they're plugged in anyway lol. So for me the wire wouldn't be an issue, but in your shoes it would definitely be a deal breaker especially for a thousand bucks it's not something you could really just pick up and be like we'll see how this works out lol.

[@sYd6point7]

@@BB-qp5xo modders just made INdex wireless... to think this wont in 6 weeks post release is silly. FOV won't be noticed with no light. your brain will compensate.

[@fettuccine723]

@@sYd6point7 ya I think the fov is one of those things where it sounds terrible but isn't that bad in person, I think brad especially would really be complaining about the fov hard if it was a super big deal, either way I'm excited there's finally going to be some more mainstream high end high resolution headsets with good color, the biggest reason I want to upgrade is because of the glare so I hope it's not as bad

[@jerahnova]

The gameplay looked a bit choppy, that happens when you record stuff in steamvr (with the steamvr viewer) beause of a bug valve doesn't care about. Maybe there is a fix? The obs plugin seems to have same issue. I use the index because of 120hz seems to record smooth gameplay. That's quite an issue I think. Will ye be our champion Sir Bradley?

[@Recycled]

I struggled to get smooth VR capture and eventually just decided to capture at native frame rate and frame blend back to 60 hz for KZbin (until they allow higher fps video).

[@calciferrr]

That mic reveal was awesome haha. Was excited to see this review but honestly, just sucks that it feels like this is yet another product brimming with potential. I can't believe that there still isn't a straight upgrade from the Index out in the market right now. This headset seems like it does a lot of things great, but the negatives that you listed are a turn-off, especially for someone who does more gaming/sim-racing than social VR stuff. Not having built-in audio, and a smaller FOV, is so much of a downgrade for my experience... Hope they do find some success in the market with this one so they continue to iterate on this in the future. But, back to twiddling my thumbs waiting on something to upgrade from the Index... Nice video Brad. Thanks for the content.

[@MarVFV]

Same boat! 😢 Valve move your ass! we need a next gen Index...or Deckard or whatever...

[@StarLightPL]

Honestly at this point I'd even buy an Index refresher with higher res. Although if Pico4 didn't made a glaring omission of not including a display port or hdmi for wired high-res PCVR, I would switch to the Pico. FOV is comparable and the pancake lenses are sweet... Maybe in Pico5? 🤞

[@TRX25EX]

Tbh I think Crystal is what you want, Index audio + Index FOV + Varjo Clarity + near OLED contrast and colors..... For sim racers having heavy headset is not a big of a deal cause you don't move alot, for me 8KX more comfortable than PSVR 2 I'm having for sim racing.... If you use fast paced standing games then Bigscreen better for comfort levels and FOV becomes less of an issue.... I have Arpara 5K which is also same resolution + Micro OLED and the clarity blew my mind away but FOV + blurriness in edges turned me off compared to 8KX... So I ordered Crystal over Bigscreen for my Sim racing + flight sim experience

[@bystander85]

Great to see custom face gaskets. Definitely looking forward to more ergonomic VR -- comfort and ease of use is a huge factor for retention in my opinion. I really wish more companies would try to push FOV more, and true-to-eye high brightness with perfect blacks. Lately, I do mostly sim racing in VR. Comfort and software glitches are always a limiting factor for me to playing more (HP Reverb G2 has pretty decent comfort, but the software glitches and faulty cables you can't buy replacements for a reasonable price, or at all, has made we just want to go back to my quest...) I'm hoping to see more big PC VR players pushing game engines and graphics hardware innovation to create better performance. Sadly, since Oculus left the PC market, I haven't seen any NVIDA marketing boasting new VR-centric features. Here's hoping Valve will save the day with Deckard. All these high resolution displays are great, but pretty much no sim-titles can run at a high refresh rate without turning down graphical settings, even on a 3080Ti.

[@glennboggsjr5369]

That Valve tease at the end of the video has me hyped! I've been trying to wait for the deckard for my next big upgrade (or at least for them to announce the specs) because I know the second I put down on a bigscreen VR, or a Pimax, that Valve is going to announcethe deckard is better in every way I care about >.

[@wavebend1474]

very good preview, very objective, as usual. Thanks for always making great content. by far my go to channel for anything vr related

[@ZarathustraDK]

Aww... I wish they'd went for the off-ear speakers for the audio-headstrap. So close.

[@Asdosie]

Wow, when you mentioned this was all done on the HMD mic, that's very impressive! this HMD is honestly amazing, Few things tho really make it hard to swap.. Price is very very very high, FOV is real low.. HZ is low too... and finally no audio, Eh. I feel like if they improved those I'd be FINE spending the price on them, But for now will hold onto the ol' faithful index.

[@Yeove]

I'd love if they sold their custom made face gaskets for the Index. It would be a healthy middle-ground for people who want a more comfortable VR experience, but who also don't want to shell out 1.5k for a new headset.

[@KSicVR]

This was wonderful but now I’m a bit nervous about my pre-order haha

[@dtz1000]

I'm glad I didn't pre order but I guess you can cancel it. This isn't as good as I thought it would be.

[@fxvei]

Can you give us a like % of brightness we can set on our index to like see for ourselves how dim you expect it to be?

[@SadlyItsBradley]

I’ll have to check later

[@ButtorsGaming]

You said you were using the HMD mic. I FUCKING LOST IT. Amazing.

[@BigSunn0]

I don't know how the FOV and the cord aren't deal breakers. I just don't see it.

[@vendabenda5831]

Size and comfort of this thing looks great. Unfortunately for someone like me, who would need to buy also controlers and stations, it is too expensive.

[@Ben-jv7vr]

Wow, lots of responses saying "Ive ordered". Funny I get a totally opposite feeling. There isnt much at all about this thing I like apart from the weight. Oh well, its a cool start to the mini displays. Maybe the next one will be better.

[@dani_dotes]

Thanks Brad going to leave us with Valve got us covered! Bye!!! Bsuahayushdbegisbs. Can’t wait!

[@zackmac5917]

Right, so looks like this is finally the next headset I have been waiting for. Great preview, I'm so glad it's turned out to be near enough as good as I hoped for! Well done for persuading the Bigscreen team to add an optional basic top strap in the box for every headset! That's significant. Clearly as you describe, this headset is the first headset to actually nail comfort, but that would have been severely hampered without that top strap as you detailed. Hopefully when people get units to review, this will include that basic top strap at the very least, and hopefully they also supply to option rigid audio strap to give reviewers the best experience. It's a shame that those like yourself trying this headset out right now have been using the default strap, I hope that doesn't ruin initial impressions from others regarding just how comfortable this headset really is!

[@quantumac]

I hope the fact BigScreen uses native SteamVR drivers means it will also work under Linux. I exclusively "VR" under Linux. I don't even have a Windows partition on my gaming PC.

[@Drischa]

Really interesting to hear about this glimpse at a possible future. I personally really want a micro-oled headset with aspherical lenses to get that maximum brightness. No idea if its possible to magnify a uoled panel that much lol. I definitely agree on you about "who controls vr" being a scary topic, I'm glad that we get to enjoy this time in which it's primarily just people wanting to make cool stuff.

[@GaaraSama1983]

The thing is with aspheric lenses you would need to sacrifice this kind of 2nd gen form factor and weight as it also means the lens needs to be farther away from the display = front heavy headset again. IMO we should stick to pancake, improve upon it and 1-2 years in the future uOLED displays will also be a lot brighter.

[@Drischa]

@@GaaraSama1983 I'm ok with having a slightly heavier headset as long as it's well balanced, this is where top straps are especially important. There is no solution for everyone - much like any other tech people will have preferences - I'm certain that in the future I will have a pancake lens mobile headset that I take with me places where I value portability, and an aspheric one for home use where I want better brightness. Different applications for each, I don't think we should chase a 'universal' solution until each niche's technology has been given a chance to mature.

[@annode]

@@Drischa I heard that 6G is forecasted to be going in by 2030. And the main driver for this is VR/(mixed). It was expressed that the high speed will make mobile VR seem instantaneous. If we don't blow up the world before then that is.

[@the.virtual.samurai]

Thank you for covering the brigntess in depth. I have been most curious about it and sadly most people don't think to cover the brightness VS light leakage.

[@zaelu]

I use Pico 4 at 20% brightness. And I have also lens inserts. So... the mileage might vary. What I don't think is great is the lighthouse tracking. I don't have and wouldn't bother to buy one. Mostly because my room space is not open and squared. I like Pico4 tracking being basically the best after using Rift and Quest 2.

[@Nekotaku_TV]

It's amazing, but too expensive, and not good enough, and missing controllers/basestations/headphones is a problem for me. Still waiting for the HMD for me, my Oculus Rift is still amazing.

[@Green0Photon]

Holy shit I can't believe you recorded this all with the headset. Especially with it as your eyebrows. Holy cow! Amazing review!

[@rockifer]

This is the (almost) perfect alternative to the Index I have been wanting for a long time now. The poor durability of the Index HMD really put me off upgrading to it from my original Vive HMD, even if the Index does do everything but durability better than the Vive. I already have Basestations, and I have the Index knuckles, so when I rake in enough money, I may buy this HMD since I'd say what the Beyond has to offer warrants upgrading to it over the Index

[@HowlerBikeVlogs]

I havent noticed any durability on my index so far, about 2000hours over 4 years and i've only just had to replace 1 lighthouse. Other than that i've not had any issues

[@Leynad778]

The Pico 4 was not bright enough on release, but to me it looks like the updates increased the brightness and contrasts quite a lot.

[@landogarner2007]

Holy shit, that mic audio is the most impressive thing about that headset.

[@blaxxun75]

Good review Brad. Thank you man. You could beef up your videos with a single picture showing the specs of the headset you are talking about for some seconds

[@SadlyItsBradley]

Thanks, will do!

[@blaxxun75]

@@SadlyItsBradley Perfect!

[@nickrog6759]

Brad is hiding his Soul Gem again under his VR Goggles 😮 !

[@ghostdawg4690]

Idk maybe it’s just me but I can see so much potential for VR mainly in my workplace but also others especially for Ai, I have to admit I see so much I don’t want to wait because I know the tech is out there and I can’t get enough of this kind of info. Tbo I’m new to this.

[@paulmuresan8889]

How much nits do we work with when this display is set to 0% brightness? When watching a movie or playing a normal pc game without head motion, 100% brightness should be fine, or is it?

[@robmoore2625]

What's the ventilation like? I struggle with my Quest2 lenses fogging up

[@SadlyItsBradley]

Fogging up is not an issue for me. It has active cooling and ventilation

[@robmoore2625]

​​@@SadlyItsBradley Sounds like a very cool headset. Thanks for your review (preview)👌

[@gabeshigemoto6965]

Forgot to mention 1 big negative: people who doesn't own lighthouses won't be able to play with the headset and buying additional hardware would add up substantially to the cost. That said, still pretty intriguing and I'm definitely interested.

[@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing]

Oh my, I forgot it was my Index's 4th anniversary. I better call and make some reservations at a fancy joint to celebrate.. I don't want to get the cold shoulder

[@LameMule]

The more I see on this headset the more I'm sold on it. My only problem will be supplying a face scan since I happily live in the stone age without any hardware to help with that and my current phone cam is straight up broken. Still, looks awesome.

[@kinpact6100]

Comfort really needs to be a bigger talking point when talking about the value of a VR headset because like you said, it really helps with retention, which is a problem myself and everyone around me has with VR. The appeal to why I might be buying this is purely because of it's weight and size which leads to comfort. Finally not worrying about "VR Tears" of sweat when playing beat saber for more than 20minutes due to breathability and heat, and becoming a workout tool IS the appeal.

[@MassDefibrillator]

I have a htc vive, and the thing that stops me from enjoying it more while using, and more regularly, isn't the crap resolution or FOV not filling my peripherals, it's definitely the lack of comfort. So yeah, strongly agree.

[@offbeatscratcher]

Native SteamVR is a huge plus. Most people probably don't even know what that means :)

[@retrin9856]

Great video. This is the headset I will most likely upgrade to. The comfort, size, and weight is an often overlooked aspect of immersion. The speed and simplicity of turning it on, plugging it in, and launching all the necessary apps is another important aspect of comfort for me. Glad to hear they'll throw in the extra little top strap too if more comfort is needed. I'm hoping they will make a simple 3DOF controller so we can use it without light houses on the go. FOV is the only major issue I have with it.

[@valentinexavier9278]

So that's why the face gasket has to be a precise fit. Very interesting. It wasn't about comfort. The displays are so dim that it can't afford light intrusion.

[@JamiTheFox]

dealbreaker for me is no eye tracking

[@exodous02]

Wonder if someone will design printable parts so it can connect to the Index head strap.

[@temporaryscars]

This thing costs $1k. Two basestations will run you $300 to $400, plus Index controllers....you're looking at $2k all in. Worth it? I'll wait for a Quest 3.

[@skyfirefly76]

Top straps should be mandatory on every single headset

[@kevinbrook7033]

Agreed, I would have had to return my Quest Pro if I hadn't put a top strap on it. It's like a torture device from a Saw movie after 30 minutes of use without one.

[@DecodeStuff]

"I think its fashionable" says brad as he's wearing an anime girl gamer esports shirt

[@SadlyItsBradley]

Shut up DECODE

[@GaaraSama1983]

While really interesting because of the good visuals while keeping the overall weight

[@bizz7612]

Bigscreen beyond really seems perfect. I just wish they could add an eyetracking module. Eyetracking is the one feature I can't be without on a VR Headset now.

[@ene_ai]

If you're more technically inclined, DIY eye tracking is achievable, though Brad also had that note at the end about the steamVR update being good for those who want eyetracking, so we'll see what he means by that.

[@Juke_The_Fluff]

@@ene_ai I haven't been this excited by a stinger in a video in a LONG time. Of course, this HAD to happen only a WEEK after I got my Vive Pro Eye in the mail.. My impatience strikes again.

[@cmdrapudma8132]

ZZzzzzz Wake me up when Apple has something for VR that they think they can make money on.

[@personmcperson5740]

Reverb g2 users know all about the USB shuffle. Usb ports can vary a lot, and the motherboard manual is a lifesaver.

[@Nobody-Nowhere]

Should have inside out tracking allready, lighthouses are pretty outdated tech.

[@besknighter]

I'm super pumped to try this HMD, but I'm tempted to wait for the v2 as the entry barrier is currently too big for me.

[@fredrik241]

Great review thank you for making it! Knowledgeble honest and fair seeming. Cheers! I hadn't heard about the polirization for pancake lenses before (Ive been out of VR for a while now) so that was a great little bit of learning for me.

[@Gamingwithmatteo311]

How did you get your dog to pose for the pic :) also he needs his own HMD

[@SadlyItsBradley]

Luckily he was just staring at the door in my room. Complete coincidence that it lined up haha

[@theworddoner]

I would have liked an eye tracking feature. 5k is great but I don’t have the gpu for it. It would have been great to have foveated rendering to supplement it. Don’t we have data transfer bottlenecks as well? 🤔 Also I’m surprised by what you said about you can’t see yourself working in vr with it? What do you think is missing? Will we ever be able to get to that point? I’d love to get rid of my monitor someday and just use a vr headset.

[@maddugqc6911]

Its 5K Yhea but remember that pancake le s are much easier to run than frenels lens but there no lens deformation compensation that make 1.4 time run higher so if you run quest 2 you run this one

[@rugga]

How many wires and plugs lol, remember when psvr2 was criticized for having 1 usbc 😂

[@lusteraliaszero]

this has no eyetracking, right? I feel like that's the biggest hurdle for futureproofing it, seems like it's gaining big traction in programming for vr

[@sauzeefy]

I like that there's no audio. I can use the same wireless headset I always use on my pc. No more fiddling with switching audio devices when I want to use the headset! :D

[@ugandaswrath567]

Jumping from quest 1 to this, im prepping for my mind to be blown lol

[@Lesbean_Burrito]

That separate Audio Strap is a direct rip of the Vive Strap and I kinda love it.

[@fischmanchu]

cant wait for other companies to try to compete with this

[@Nobody-Nowhere]

The screen door effect is probably mitigated by the fact that the lenses most likely cant resolve the display fully. Thats one major issue in micro oleds, when the pixels are micron sized you need extremely good optics to be able to resolve them. And pancakes simply cant do that.

[@Nobody-Nowhere]

The other big problem is the combination of OLED:s and pancakes, its the worst combination as oleds have a hard cap on light output, unlike LCD panels. And pancakes eat up like 85% of the light.

[@Steror]

​@@Nobody-Nowhere there are 10k and 20k nits micro OLEDs in the pipeline. Just wait for 2024-2025 ;)

[@Nobody-Nowhere]

@@Steror I just dont see why waste all that power into pancake optics, they will just end up generating a lot of heat. In vr, i see no real point in micro oleds. The displays dont really need to be that small.. it just creates issues. Some sort of happy medium would be much better for VR.

[@TheBaldrickk]

I wouldn't be too concerned about brightness personally... I usually have my Index set to about 30% - like Brad said, if your eyes can adjust to it, it's not that bad.

[@Afrikanxl]

Real interesting what Sony and Bigscreen chose to balance for their OLED headsets, for their targeted audience. I can't say which is right or wrong. I think both did a good job. I love my PSVR2, but I can also see loving using the Bigscreen for media stuff, using their service. As far as audio, I've never been a fan of build in audio... I prefer to use my high end headphones for watching films. For lossless sound (Sony MDR 9.1) or my Haptic Headphones (Razer Kaira Pro Dual PS5 edition).... also if it helps bring down the price for the headset, even better.

[@MassDefibrillator]

The PSVR2 uses an entirely different kind of display to the beyond, OLED Vs Micro-OLED. They are made using entirely different methods and materials. As far as I know, Micro-oleds are just flat out better in every way than OLEDS.

[@Datdus92]

Hi, * vocal fry * I'm brad. Music to my ears

[@BB-qp5xo]

I will call my top strap the ‘Brap’ from when I get it, in commemoration of your efforts.

[@LhunVideo]

@SadlyItsBradley !!! you mentioned the displays were canted!!! Did you use that trick in the steamVR config I told you about a while back!? Also, Feedback on black frame insertion: I wonder if they couldn't make it every 3rd frame by altering which eye gets the black frame inserted. Also it seems to be top to bottom refresh. I wonder if, like the index, the set the screens vertically instead, left to right refresh might help a bit. Maybe on gen2. Either way sounds like they're doing a lot right. 90hz does seem like a downgrade for people, but I promise with this oled tech it won't be.

[@Druew]

Hopefully when fixing the sweet spot issue they take into account that most people would prefer to have more downward field of view (like myself.) I'm looking forward to seeing the finished product as I've been using the index since launch. It would be nice to finally have a vr headset that I would consider an actual "upgrade" over the index for my use case.

[@KorokuGaming]

Comfort & ease of use>everything for VR right now. As long as the experience can match the Oculus CV1, comfort & ease of use are king.

[@WireWhiz]

Missed opportunity to say "Gamers don't look up", meme opportunity missed

[@StriK3FoRC3OwO]

the price is just to high, 1k for basically two oled screens and a case

[@mikeb3172]

If Apples HMD turns out like this (low brightness uoLED, pancake) plus an eco system, it won't be that bad. Except for the price.

[@spaceghostcqc2137]

Thankfully it's Bradly with a great hands on preview!

[@Dindonmasker]

Holy shit that mic is good!!

[@TheMonLust]

The only issue for me is to switch back to wired from wireless ... I used to having no cables. I really hope wifi7 next year will be a game changer for wireless VR

[@worekarolis]

same, I just can't go back..

[@annode]

A fabulous video Brad! I really am almost wanting to pay the grand for this one. I'm not one to play games so being wired in doesn't bother me, at this time, but I hear 6G for VR is forecasted by 2030 and mobile VR/mixed will have us finally walking the streets wearing HMDs ... until someone shoots us and steals it from us. Was wondering if HMD companies offer owners of a previous iteration/model an allowance to step up to a newer HMD with a trade in? I would/people would be more apt to 'buy now' if this were common I think.

[@engineeredaf1920]

All those big words sound so naughty 🥵

[@Rammvis]

can I get the 140* FOV version 😅

[@psiga]

Excellent mic, no mura, bespoke fit, light enough to wear for hours and hours. I really hope that this pays off for them; it seems to be one of the best for legitimate VR enthusiasts.

[@Perenbarn]

I need that poster.

[@BaxornVR]

I want one of these. I have the base stations, the index controllers, so obviously im the target audience, but i dont have an iphone with lidar.

[@moncimoov]

i have iphone and index, but still not sure because i heard the glare is worse than index, and very smoll fov

[@SlavaBagmut]

Don't you have friends with iphone?

[@truedesireelements2040]

Thank you so much for all you do. Your Awesome Always!!!

[@Smash_ter]

20:35 wait so does that mean the displays aren't parallel? Do they use parallel projection if the displays are indeed canted?

[@christycho9871]

Thanks for the in depth preview. I'm really interested in this headset. If they could have figured out a way to get an Index / Reverb G2 off ear speakers integrated without much additional weight, that would have been fantastic. I also wish my headsets were brighter, so sounds like it's the same issue here.

[@Spedley_2142]

Ah, now I know what black frame insertion is. I'd always just assumed that 90Hz meant the image was changed 90 times per second but it is not. The image is renewed 90 times per second but the display is turned off between each frame so that your head does not move without the image changing. It's a bit like a strobe light compared to what a strobe light would look like if the image persisted.

[@BlakeBlackstone]

Quest 2 and Quest Pro microphones has always sounded pretty good to me. Never had issues in my recordings or never had anyone say my mic sounded weird or bad.

[@lukeconsumerofcontent]

If it works with native steamvr drivers, can I use this on Linux? Right now with my G2 + Index controller setup, I'm stuck dualbooting windows, which really bothers me.

[@SadlyItsBradley]

I was going to test this, but ran into issues with my normal steam vr Linux testing. So I can’t answer this yet :(

[@lukeconsumerofcontent]

@@SadlyItsBradleyAh, okay. Thanks! 👍

[@miniman3112]

The mic reveal was pretty shocking ngl

[@blaxxun75]

Preorder price in Austria (Europe) €1.369 EUR = 1492 USD . A proud pricetag I would say

[@beeniemanmakkaroni]

Machs lieber nicht. Oder sei Early Adop. Und finanziere die Entwicklung mit damit auch ich bald eine mit 2x so hellen Displays und Eye-Tracking bekommen kann 😅❤

[@iand7475]

I imagine deep blacks are a game changer.

[@rfc5718]

Excellent review 🍰

[@wavebend1474]

i love the poster