Vortex Razor HD Gen III -10X

[@LRRPFco52]

"All optics get concrete." That's a T-Shirt right there.

[@AF-O6]

How does this channel have less than 10k subs when the 1M+ channels quote him all the time. I appreciate the no BS approach...and the occasional bourbon reviews.

[@zachconant7031]

He has almost 100k subs

[@dr3wbyyy]

Zach Conant i think the point stands. I don’t get it neither.

[@zachconant7031]

Andrew Ramos I agree

[@mr.pattyd9138]

Simple fix: Aaron needs to start wearing flannel shirts, and begin every video with "If you cringe every time an optic gets drop tested...go ahead and hit that subscribe button".

[@gunsandcommissions]

share his content to help him out

[@formerpilgrim4934]

I would drop it again... to see if the group shrinks even more.

[@SageDynamics]

former pilgrim lol

[@recceshoe6911]

Shhh. That is the secret to sub moa. If you let it get out you'll see all the prs competitors flinging their rifles between stages.

[@gabrielsimmons3736]

@@SageDynamics What was the name of the intro song?

[@gabrielsimmons3736]

@@SageDynamics What is the intro song called?

[@greatlakespowerstrokefx4]

My bet is it came from his improvement with the rifle as he shot that optic more. Even a good shooter will improve with reps

[@Highway9mm]

Sage Dynamics is renown for his firearms content but his heavy metal intros are severely under rated.

[@dr3wbyyy]

Highway 9mm i dont even listen to the genre but i dont skip thru it

[@gunsandcommissions]

couldn't have said it better myself - Aaron's intros make me wanna kick ass

[@deediddy]

I don't know how many people buy based on your reviews but I do. Thanks

[@duckhunter4660]

Don't know many reviewers who beat things up to the point Aaron does. I have made many purchases based on his reviews and have yet to be disappointed.

[@11ride4life]

Me as well

[@zachconant7031]

I was surprised to see you have under 100k subs after watching several of your videos. Your production level and content surpasses a lot of other guntubers out there.

[@kurtismeinhardt68]

Zach Conant not to mention experience... lol

[@gunsandcommissions]

share his stuff

[@NickNnox]

100k subs right around the corner man! Congrats 👍

[@kurtkenehan8017]

woke up a little stressed from school. this video pop's up and now I'm happy thanks Aaron

[@musashiblade8665]

This is the review I’ve been waiting patiently for and it didn’t disappoint. Great review. Now if you will excuse me, I have an optic to buy now LOL

[@gabrielsimmons3736]

Musashi Blade Warrior Poet Society has a review too.

[@RabidSquirrel537]

Why did you have to abuse the concrete four times though? Surely it learned its lesson after one?

[@LRRPFco52]

It puts the lotion on its skin or it gets the scope again.

[@ericjohansen6042]

Finally! I love your incredibly in-depth reviews. I’m planning on purchasing this optic and have been waiting for this. I appreciate the time put into the video and the questions answered. Thanks brother!

[@egyptianswamp6041]

That’s the best optic review I’ve watched on KZbin yet.

[@lanceskopik2928]

I always wondered who needs 6x/8x/10x scopes on there rifle (defensive weapon etc), UNTILL I moved to the mountains. Jeez you can really see a long way and being able to see better is almost priceless

[@joeygreen7854]

The burn down seems like more of a barrel burn out with the 5.55mm … I’m thinking the burn down done on a 7.62 platform like the Scar 17 would be a more realistic test of the optics durability. Just a thought… as aways, your videos are amazing quality.

[@Heywoodthepeckerwood]

Your review are great. Probably the best. I’ve purchased many optics based on your videos. The RMR, the MRO and will be getting this next. Thank you.

[@joeweiss924]

This is the most thorough review out there. Thank you. I went 1/6E.

[@pescad0]

Having used the Nx8 and seeing this with a similar reticle, it really makes me appreciate having a Gen 2 where i can just put it on 3-4x and essentially have a magnified red dot with piss off long eye relief .

[@Sheppard2030]

Woohoo!!! I'm seeing a lot about this scope lately & it looks pretty nice! Thank you, sir! The music is pretty infectious too. I had to watch the intro twice. xD *I just noticed the "Fuel Gauge" magazine. Nice!

[@valiant545]

Sage gets referenced by a lot of 1m sub channels because they KNOW he is fantastic content and knowledge. So the 100k here that follow him follow him because we also know he is a WEALTH of knowledge. He'll explode even more than he already has, just give the gun community some time

[@jortega456]

Was waiting for your review of it. Once the video ended, opened a new page and bought it. Keep up the quality content Aaron.

[@farmwalker1900]

I've been waiting for this review. Still would love to see you test the durability of the steiner P4Xi 1-4. For the money and clear glass and weight, I think it's one of the best optics for a 14.5 inch type rifle. But no one has given it a quality review like I know you would.

[@sethrich5998]

Luke kreider Well to be fair 1-4x just aren’t popular. Personally anything less than 6x just isn’t worth it. At that low of magnification you might as well go red dot and magnifier.

[@skyhop]

@@sethrich5998 I love my acogs. For shooting while standing and moving, I haven't found a magnified optic I like better than the TA33. A magnified red dot is awesome, but it's also a large and heavy setup, by comparison.

[@sethrich5998]

Tombs Clawtooth Agree with that. The Acog and Red Dot is the other clear option for that. The 1-4x variable is simply worse than either of these options. If you’re only going up to 4x there’s no reason to give up the unlimited eyebox of a Red Dot in conjunction with a fixed power magnification either in the form of magnifier or fixed power optic like an ACOG.

[@farmwalker1900]

The P4Xi is actually pretty popular. I see a lot of guys running them. Plus not everybody likes flip to side magnifiers.

[@farmwalker1900]

Plus that would be like saying the specter elcan is a dumb optic because it's only a 1-4x. Clearly that has been proven to be a very popular optic. Aaron Cowan even reviewed one.

[@jeremyaustin6328]

Another stellar review hit on every question I was wondering. 🤘🏻

[@mer171]

Mine and a number of other people I've talked to have come (nib) with illumination consistency problems if fluctuated on a locked in setting

[@GeauxRussGeaux]

I’m glad the adjustment ring isn’t stupid stiff out of the box. That was my biggest complaint on the 1-6.

[@dowlingc2]

Outstanding optic! Perfect in a DMR role. I got mine from vortex about 2 months ago. Mounted on in Larue mount, on a 12.5" 5.56 DMR I built using a ballistic advantage barrel, and black hills 77gr OTM. The combo is moa capable, and ive able to get repeatable hits out to 720 yds in 15 mph winds. Even out to that distance I didnt observe any significant issues relating to not having a parallax adjustment. I also shot a 14.5" DMR with viper pst gen2 3-15, and another 14.5" DMR with a Nightforce nx8 2.5-20x50 on the same day, same target, same conditions, same black hills load. The 1-10 easily kept up with those more precision dedicated optics. Round it off with the huge FOV and near aimpoint bright red dot center on 1x. Couldn't be happier.

[@bendycricket]

Interesting...Before this video was uploaded I was watching KZbin in the morning and I just happened to randomly see your review of the 1x6 from 2 years ago. It’s a sign!

[@Jugend88139]

Awesome review as always ;) This scope is the next step in LPVO, most of the features of a S&B short dot dual CC except parallax adjustment and locking turret, but has a 10x capability and awesome quality HD glass, as all the RAZOR line have

[@MrCaboose83]

Very well done video! Thank you, I’ve been considering this optic for my 556 and you sold me on it.

[@williambroad8726]

Will you do a review of the Primary Arms PLx 1-8x24. Want to see the results of the deck drop.

[@TheDareD3vil]

Been waiting for this review since the optic was announced. So excited.

[@HarryVonHoofPigs]

Awesome Review brother, I always appreciate a granulated and thorough review. After all that's why we watch these, in order to get the full low down.

[@Enough_Tumbleweed]

Pricey, but I'll definitely be snagging one of these.

[@noahgunter3621]

I have one of the razor 1-10s and I was a bit disappointed in eye relief at 10x. Gonna have to go home and play with it some more and set my cheek at 10x then back it down like you said.

[@joshuareed3999]

Congrats on 100k. Your channel is a great resource to the #opticsgame. Thanks for the great reviews. Keep #droppinops

[@russdennis7026]

You the man dude! Anything that comes out your mouth is gold. Much respect!

[@greyman1987]

Very good and extensive review as always ! About the ability to take stronger recoil, there is a video from Jerry Miculek where he rapid fires a 50. cal Barrett with this opic mounted to the gun (gen 2 actually) :).

[@basti080891]

Seems like the perfect optic for a short semi auto 308!

[@grunnax]

P.O.F. Revolution DI comes to mind 😆

[@ronaldrichardson4451]

Man that zero at 100 is ridiculous as always great review and content Aaron and I still want 2 no where u shoot and train at peace!

[@danielmilewski7659]

Awesome review! Thanks, Sage!💪

[@scottclaiborne5123]

Sage Dynamics is a Top 5 “gun channel.” All of Aaron’s content is well executed, insightful and useful to the community. Aaron, can you review the Vortex Razor red dot? I’ve seen a few folks running them on their pistols. Definitely curious as I’m a fan of Vortex.

[@Tragic387]

Scott Claiborne vortex mrds is a no go. Rmr, holosun, or dpp

[@scottclaiborne5123]

Rob S May I ask why? Have you had bad experience?

[@opossumlord]

he already did a review on them

[@michaelkusjanovic9954]

As usual. Another really well thought out and executed review.

[@non-binaryjesus]

My sig tango 1-10 is awesome. I've seen countless people screaming about eye relief but these are magnification optics!!! 😂 I mean if you can get 3.5 inch eye relief then it's good to me. The more I use my lpvo the more I like them

[@ikemouser2580]

I really like the idea of the 1-10 hd III razor but I'm looking for a do it all type build, how would the gen iii work with night vision? Does the dot appear? What about passive shooting options? I really believe the scopes like this are the future but just dont know how it would handle nvg's.

[@SageDynamics]

Run an offset RDS. NVGs and magnified optics don’t work well together with passive aiming.

[@ikemouser2580]

@@SageDynamics thank you!

[@chiefro7]

Yeahhh buddy! Been waitin for this one!

[@wildmanjeff42]

have several of the 1-6 HD gen II, I love them

[@sonicnofadz]

God damn awesome review. This is where I go to get a legit review and opinion. Thanks for the data

[@XrayDoc88]

I would sure love to hear any thoughts about the Vortex Razor HD Gen III - 1-10X vs. the Trijicon Credo 1-8X. I believe they're both great optics, but I can only afford one. :)

[@rozashanina3167]

Your reviews are pure quality

[@gunsandcommissions]

i've been waiting to hear your take on this

[@duckhunter4660]

Thanks Cowan!! Been trying to talk myself out of one of these.... Not anymore!!! Quick question. If I were to have to deploy it in a patrol setting on 1x and did not have time to turn the illumination on, would I be able to acquire the reticle in the daylight and likewise at night with weapon light illumination? What I am asking is, can you see the reticle on 1x w/out the dot on well enough to be effective in a time crunch??

[@SageDynamics]

Duck Hunter during the day, yes. At night, pushing light down range, also yes.

[@willg6997]

@@SageDynamics watched this vid for the Vortex but to my surprise, you used the ADM UIC Mod 2. Currently have the ADM 13.9 Core on order. Did, or do you have any issues with the gas block not being pinned? I already know you'd rather have the castle nut staked but they don't go that route.

[@DAP-1776]

I wonder how this compares to the NF Atacr 1-8?

[@MrMoses28]

O my goodness, I can't believe he did the drop test on a scope. I understand a pistol RMR but dam that's crazy.

[@LRRPFco52]

Lowlight blew one of the first Razors up with tannerite and it still tracked, held zero, functioned fine with a few dings and scratches.

[@lastmanstandingtactical]

Loved the review! Is your offset mount Arisaka?, were you running a 35 or 45-degree angle?

[@deleteduser7132]

What is the intro music?

[@LarpingSupply]

Hey is there any chance you could do a video about backup RDS options for LPVO setups? I am curious about options. I’m thinking about using a Reptilia Mount to top mount a 509T so I can passive aim on my LPVO Guns. The other option is 45degree mounting a RDS. I’m also curious if/what benefit I might gain using a T2 as a offset over a 509T. Not a ton of really good info out there about offset RDS options. Yet it seems to be very common.

[@j0ey96]

Been waiting for this review

[@bva8252]

I've been waiting for this Razor. I notice you are keeping your off-axis back up optic on the rifle. Since this is a true 1x scope, is an offset optic redundant? Is the offset reflex any quicker or easier to see through in low light? Just wondering if I can get away with offset irons instead of reflex sight.

[@SkintSNIPER262]

Nope. Switching to your offset optic is faster that rotating down to 1x.

[@Marrs47]

Couple points. It’s slow to change your magnification back down to 1. If your shooting at distance then close up, it slows you down. Flip up off axis sights take time to deploy. Red dots are faster in certain light conditions. No LPVO will give you red dot like eye box and eye relief. Is it more expensive yes. Are there performance benefits going off axis red dot vs irons? Yes, just as much going from A2 fixed sights to red dots.

[@duckhunter4660]

The only arguement I have had (with myself) about the offset irons over the offset red dot is debris such as snow or fogging. I know it is rare these days but if a Razor were to fog up or gunk up, I am certain an RMR would also. But I should probably just stop arguing with myself because I love the RMR option.

[@OTG_Zulu]

Duck Hunter you could also go with offset Aimpoint t1/t2. Enclosed optic and they’re pretty durable. You could always treat both lenses with some anti fog. As far as getting gunked up with an canted enclosed optic you can wipe off the ocular Lens and would be using occluded Eye shooting which would be less than ideal but still easily get you on target out to 50 yards. And if you had more time you can wipe off the front lens too.

[@OTG_Zulu]

Duck Hunter only thing that I personally see where irons have the advantage over canted optics is that they don’t need batteries and you’d have to try with a decent amount of effort to break them. Optics are just inherently more susceptible to failure. That being said it’s not even a question of picking irons or an optic if it were going directly on your weapon as your primary aiming tool. So I personally feel the same mentality should apply to canted sights as well.

[@Vmole1]

I think a more informative assessment, due to the practical choices available, would be if you were to take the extra 2x magnification out of the equation, would you consider this the best overall 1-8x optic available?

[@alanjones3990]

I need that 3rd pin adm in my life

[@LRRPFco52]

ADM UIC has one of the best receiver sets available for the AR-15. The bolt hold open is awesome.

[@randolphtiangco6239]

Question is... will you now forgo the offset red dot? If not, I don't really see the need for a lpvo when there is the red dot present.

[@duckhunter4660]

The red dot is for a backup and for close targets if you are caught off guard on 10x. It is faster to transition to the dot than to dial your optic back to 1x and fire.

[@randolphtiangco6239]

@@duckhunter4660 So, what's the use of the 1x on the lpvo if the red dot is faster? Why not just get a scope with a higher magnfication?

[@duckhunter4660]

@@randolphtiangco6239 the offset red dot is merely an "oh shit option" as in, I used my optic on 10x last time and forgot to put it on 1x and I need 1x now, but don't have time to dial down. Or, my optic is broken, fogged or full of debris, I need a backup right now and dont have time to clean it out so I use the red dot. Not sure if you have used a 10x optic before but if you are dialed up to 10x and a target is 10 feet away, all you can see is a big blob of whatever color the target is. You cant pick a spot and make an accurate hit very easily or quickly. Does that make sense? Murphy's law will always apply in real world use so for a gun you depend your life or the life of others on, a backup is a good way to go. I personally run backup offset irons on my personal guns. On my patrol rifle I run an LPVO with in line flip up irons because our policy wont allow the offsets (so I would have to remove my optic to use my backuos, makes no sense but that is how policies are these days) A few weeks back we tracked an armed fugitive to a vacant building and contained it. As I was sitting peremeter it began to snow. My optic filled up with snow. Luckily I noticed it and cleared it but if I would have needed it quickly, I could have been screwed. This is why I like backup offsets. I actually prefer the irons as they dont have a fogging issue in that odd instance all the elements align in shitty perfect order and fog both your LPVO and red dot. But that is just my way. Doesn't mean it is for everyone.

[@SeannoG1]

Now we need the Spinal Tap edition that goes to 11

[@therulesaredifferent8280]

😆 GENIUS

[@jackjmaheriii]

Great video! I would have liked to see the drop tests.

[@twdunn9]

Compare to NF 1-8 ATACR????

[@WallyMerc06]

I get pain in my forearm there too. Something about the AR grip angle that plays hell with that part of the muscle.

[@skyhop]

Get a longer stock. You're shooting too cramped up.

[@WallyMerc06]

@@skyhop unfortunately the damage is already done after years of issued guns with A2 grips and unforgiving body armor.

[@philochristos]

It's such a snazzy optic. I don't know why they cheaped out on the lens caps.

[@Boon20]

Not gonna lie i was rocking out on that opening there

[@beardedred0032]

Did I miss the 4 drops? I only saw one.

[@jasonroddey3331]

Would like your thought on the new VUDU 1-8

[@chadjordan9382]

"All optics get concrete" LoL. 🤣

[@Charles-mp2vl]

Why no footage of it being dropped?

[@chadjordan9382]

I'm looking to buy a lvpo please advise. I'm stuck between the vortex Razor 1-6. The trijicon accupower 1-8. And a vcog.

[@Turambar117]

VCOG is kinda heavy and outdated tbh. Also apparently Trijicon discontinued their Accupower line in favor of the new Ascent and Credo lines. That pretty much leaves you with the Razor which is significantly less money than the VCOG until somebody vets the Credo

[@Arleys617]

@SageDynamics If I am using Black hills 77g, 62 Green tip, and 55gr M193. Which round should I zero my Vortex 1-10x with?

[@Turambar117]

If it were me, I'd go with either the black hills stuff because it's the most accurate and then just memorize your holdovers with the cheaper stuff or zero with what you'll be shooting the most and memorize your holdovers with the black hills. Personally I would go with the first option because if you're using match ammo, the shot is probably harder in the first place and you want to make it as easy on yourself as possible

[@b.vo.]

Zero it with whatever you're going to use and keep it loaded with

[@mikhailyaremkiv]

Curious, why do you actuate safety during the transition between RMR and LVPO?

[@giovannisterlin695]

this channel is very very underrated .

[@H3y45]

Just got my Scalarworks 30mm in... razor 1-6 or nx8?

[@leeroywilly]

Hey man I know this is an older video and this question may have been asked before, but what hand guard is that? Thanks!

[@christiandinero8083]

hey aaron, i know you did a video on lpvo vs red dots, but can you revisit that comparing red dots/magnifiers vs lpvos/offset vs acog/offset? only have experience with red dots and i would like to hear your opinion.

[@MrAnnomys]

Awesome review bro, liked & subbed.

[@angryandroid]

Any thought of testing this & future optics on the SCAR-17?

[@gunsandcommissions]

love the content Aaron

[@JSCO-]

Would you say the razor gen 3 is worth buying? I here lots of mixed things, but conceptually it seems great. I'm concerned about the eye box.

[@IntellectualTerritory]

Anyone wondering supersetca did a review comparing both the vortex and ATACR

[@Slipknotfanatic89]

That intro music is sick! Does anyone know the song?

[@BeastHunterSam]

This vs. the ATACR?

[@Hadouken5150]

Who played the intro music? Those are nice tones.

[@dariusbronner5866]

Taking this guy the next time I go on a toilet paper raid!!!

[@OvertonLeveller]

wish they used an easy-ranging reticle like the ones developed by primary arms

[@LRRPFco52]

GRSC developed the reticle that PA copied, only without the inherent ranging features of the GRSC. GRSC has been around way before PA was even an idea.

[@therulesaredifferent8280]

Great review, watched all of it... but what was the song used in the intro?

[@Keep_It_Loaded]

Love to hear your opinion on Trijicon's Credo 1x8 LVPO

[@oceres]

Ditto, came here to try to find it.

[@ruthlessreviews1283]

Can confirm: it'll play at 1000. Saw multiple people do this with 5.56 guns, and did it myself, at a RECCE rifle match back in October 2020

[@MnRCDad]

Damn now that its mid summer, I suspect we will see others coming out with a 1-10, i think ill now have to wait for shot2021!

[@beretta989]

Simple and to the point 😉😎🇺🇸👍

[@mig1nc]

Would love to hear your thoughts on the Geissele LPVO with it's larger objective and thus exit pupil.

[@angryraylangivens1281]

mig1nc why would you buy that chinesium POS? Geissele is finished as a company after their bullshit

[@JamesJones-yt8df]

LIKE TO SEE THE WEAR ON IT , THANKS FOR SHARING THIS WAS A 👍 VERY NICE REVIEW. FACT FILED AND QUALITY CONTENT !!!

[@frederickgolebiowski1634]

Well done review! Thank you. 👍

[@dansmajd4105]

It's a great sight no doubt about it. But I've been in love with the 1-4x Elcan for almost 10 years... Now that I'm able to afford it, I'm torn between the two. The razor is obviously more capable, and the more sound option, but I'm emotionally attached to the elcan, lol. Should I go for it, or is the razor THAT much better?

[@Meditech509]

The Elcan is a great optic but is now outdated technology. Unless you are building a mil-replica there is no point in it anymore. I am an old school ACOG man and am looking into replacing them with this. 4 Power is great for up to 450 yds beyond that target identification is almost impossible.

[@borkwoof696]

The Razor is a great optic but you really need to ask yourself whether you need all that capability. But at the price point of the Elcan might as well get the extra magnification.

[@jordancook5171]

Get both!!

[@dansmajd4105]

@@jordancook5171 I did :) Elcan > Razor btw

[@jordancook5171]

@Dan Smajd I wouldn't ones better than the other but you can deploy both optics on two different rifle set ups.

[@ramtac33033]

It looks like it shoots better after you drop it each time

[@MrRickonia]

LoL!

[@titanscerw]

What is the distance to your furtherst target, dear sir Aaron, please?

[@codyfowler5898]

Any plans on reviewing a trigicon credo 1-8

[@Towarddev]

Could you check the ATIBAL LPVO? Also 1-10, vip warranty and half the price.

[@LRRPFco52]

ATIBAL 1.1-10x30 is a copy of the GRSC 1.1-10x30 FSO at $575, with a much better reticle in the GRSC.