Ranking Broadway Characters Based On How Problematic They Are!

[@gabivirgo27]

omg if everyone found out what Evan did today he would be CANCELLED

[@edisonthethird]

absolutely cancelled!

[@Daniel-ed9gn]

He’s tough because in context of the show it makes sense to sympathize with him, but if people just saw what he did on Twitter without that context he would 100% get cancelled

[@alisonschwab7842]

Could the Murphys sue for emotional damages??

[@taylormedina861]

Totally cancelled

[@elisehayes7312]

FR

[@plushislandnetwork7455]

Aaron Burr got canceled in real life after shooting Hamilton, and Hamilton got canceled after the Reynolds Pamphlet but many people saw him in a better light after his death. Cancel culture has been around for centuries, surprisingly.

[@jenniferr8394]

I'd probably put Hamilton as morally gray/stupid on this topic, but not anything harsher than that. Burr is morally gray until he kills someone, and the shenanigans he got up to after the murder go into possible prison territory.

[@VyeLikesRocks]

@@jenniferr8394 But everyone is forgetting that he helped a woman cheat on her husband.

[@jakerson114]

@@jenniferr8394true, but duals were a thing. people were mad at who he killed, rather than the fact he killed.

[@rtcnoodles]

imagine if twitter was around during the early 1800s 😭

[@jadelemonade]

@@rtcnoodlesrtcnoodles jumpscare

[@ThaliaGracie]

Honestly, for me Gaston is prison tier. Yes, there are Gastons all around us, but that doesn't mean that what he does is JUST morally grey. He sexually harasses women and part of the reason he tried to kill the Beast is because he was jealous of him and wanted Belle for himself, not just because he thought he was a monster, which makes him evil.

[@roisinnigcrainn7722]

I agree, but for the reason of attempted murder. Should be at LEAST lawsuit.

[@jenniferkril479]

Don’t forget what he did to Maurice!

[@sophielem59]

Totally agree

[@oyinkansolaadebajo9716]

Actually, yes, because if Harvey Weinstein and R Kelly, then Gaston... just sayin

[@runroorun_]

AGREED

[@sabahk]

This was a really fun idea haha I struggle with Evan Hansen myself. He's definitely problematic. But I think when we consider his severe social anxiety and the fact that he's supposed to be a teenager (which can be easy to forget when played by someone much older), we can sorta understand why he is the way he is. People also tend to forget that Evan was suicidal himself, so it seems like he was really holding onto that family as a last hope in a way. Either way what he did was wrong and I think he is remorseful (considering words fail) so I'd agree with morally gray. I think he learned his lesson.

[@jaenarmat]

i was literally saying smthn similar to this, like to me, during the show, he tries to reason with connors parents, but like with them being upset abt the suicide, his letter, evan not wanting them to be upset if he says the wrong thing, etc. it became so overwhelming for him during the show he couldnt say it, thats what i saw anyways

[@kudadaze]

@@jaenarmat Exactly! I always think back to that part when listening to people talk about him because Evan tries to tell the truth at first but Connor's mom's reaction pushes him to first step into the lie. He was in the wrong as well, but it wasn't all his fault imo.

[@austinlam8145]

ngl, the focus on evan's social anxiety in the show and esp in like the promo, reviews and stuff that I saw at the time always annoyed me a little, as someone who has social anxiety that was quite severe in high school. like everyone was like "wow look at this bway show with a main character who has such an accurate portrayal of social anxiety" but like all he does is lie and cry, and fidget and hunch. ofc it's cool that so many people could relate to his character and found the show helpful but it kinda rubs me the wrong way lol

[@sabahk]

@@austinlam8145 I get that, and I have social anxiety too. I think the important thing to remember is that this is just showing one possible experience. In reality, it's different for everyone and I think everyone watching the show should keep that in mind too. I'd never do half the things evan did that's for sure.

[@hfmackay]

The problem is the writing of the show. We don't know what Evan's diagnosis is. I have heard ASD, OCD, social anxiety, etc. He then gets with a girl, stops taking his meds and gets better?! I hope the neurodiversity community trash the movie when It comes out.

[@vanessadalpiaz6423]

I think a lot of folks get carried away in the “you will be found” of dear Evan Hansen add forget that the whole point is that Evan is a sympathetic anti hero. What he does is supposed to be perceived as morally wrong and what he does to the Murphy’s is undeniably horrible, but he is sympathetic due to his motivations and social anxiety.

[@broadwaybrook2319]

Yeah, rather than just tell the Murphys, "No, you're wrong, we weren't friends," he decided give the Murphys the emotional relief that they needed to cope with Connor's death. Even if it was fake.

[@Fanoftoomanythings]

I would LOVE to see ranking Broadway musicals but by their most popular song!

[@wuttatota148]

It would be pretty hard picking the most popular song of a musical. I am thinking about it right now and having difficulty picking the songs. For example, Dear Evan Hansen has You Will Be Found, Waving Through A Window, and Sincerely Me which are all equally popular imo. Another hard one is Hamilton. There's Alexander Hamilton, My Shot, and Satisfied which are all equally popular and loved i think. Some musicals have obvious ones though like Defying Gravity for Wicked or Wait For Me for Hadestown

[@rtcnoodles]

uhh tell me why my brain was immediately thinking "✨popular✨ youre gonna be ✨popuUlar✨

[@gaffer2602]

​@@rtcnoodlesooh, but Defying Gravity

[@ccshorts8613]

For gaston you guys forgot that he had Maurice put into a mental place for insisting there was a beast and the second he finds out the beast was real and belle cares for him, he goes to kill the beast without releasing Maurice even though its proved he was right and not crazy. Not to mention he also throws belle into the metal place too when he tries to deny them. idk if its like that in the broadway show but thats how it is in the movie.

[@jenniferr8394]

In the theater show Maurice doesn't quite get locked up yet. They'[re about to do it when Belle shows the mirror, then the town hauls off to go kill the beast and don't bother to do anything about Maurice.

[@stephaniegagne3376]

At least arrested for unlawful imprisonment

[@DeerlyObcessed]

Alright I know this is a video about musicals, but I've seen no one else talk about how Ryan is a diabetic! I had no clue and I've seen him in so many roles over the years. As a type one diabetic myself (10 years in Oct.) It just super amazing realizing some actors/actresses/well-known people are at least somewhat similar to me and have done/worked in such amazing pieces of media

[@MrNirvanaMan]

Bro, same!!!! Type one for 9 years. So happy that I'm finding people like him!

[@MsCloudnumber9]

"so many people are SO mad!" nah i agree with all of these 😅 they problematic henny

[@sofiakhan1636]

Now rank broadway characters based on how wholesome they are🤩🤩

[@genevieveowusu885]

Eliza is S-tier.

[@wuttatota148]

Eliza, Quasimodo and Orpheus are my tops

[@manicpixi3]

Defense of Evan: He asked Jared what to do after the family asked him to come to dinner to discuss Conner, Jared said just nod your head. So he agreed with everything they said. Although it may not have been the best descition he was nervous and trusted Jared. The entire the he felt guilty and I don’t think he only lied to get closer to Zoey that just happened to be a bonus. He didn’t try to get Zoey back after she broke up with him and he was respectful and nice. He never meant to do anything wrong he just got caught in a spiral. He just got nervous and said yes without thinking how big it would get. He also didn’t ask the Murphy’s to not tell the internet but they did because they still love Evan because he is a GOOD person. I rest my case. Hate him if you want but I think he’s great and I want to be his friend.

[@idkwhatever3990]

He's a nice person, but I do believe he's a bit selfish. Like dude, you're mom really works her a** out so you can have a house, great education, food, opportunities. I get that he's upset, but like he needs to understand her. But he did better so I forgive him. The OTHER chaotic things he did. I mean, even if he is nervous and said yes in the moment, he should've fix the problem right away. But it's difficult, and, I still like him. I don't excuse him, though. But understand it.

[@gabrielleduplessis7388]

Did they try to correct this in the movie trailer because he said, “no he did not write this” but the mom refused to believe him.

[@amynicole4630]

@@gabrielleduplessis7388 from memory in the musical at first in the princiapls office evan tries to tell the family that connor didn't write the letter but the family is already too carried away. Don't quote me on it tho 😂

[@joanbernsten3960]

@@gabrielleduplessis7388 He did flat out deny it in the stage show too, but they were all too carried away to listen to him

[@gabrielleduplessis7388]

@@joanbernsten3960 that is why I questioned if he was that problematic because he did tell the truth but no one believed him. Not justifying him maintaining the lie though.

[@lanasage6650]

I REALLY want to know what Ryan’s thoughts are on Han’s genuine smile after first meeting Anna in the movie version of Frozen

[@georgiakateryan]

The thing about Anna is that when she realizes she is part of the problem, she does everything in her power to fix it, which I feel like takes her off the list completely. The naiveté that she has in the beginning is not her fault, it is the fault of her parents and I would say partially from Elsa, although Elsa deals with the same if not worse traumatic parenting decisions of the king and queen. She really couldn't help but be the way she was, especially considering the fact that Elsa would be closing the castle again after the coronation. However, you can tell that she is genuinely good at her core because she takes responsibility, acknowledges that she caused the altercation with her sister, and then seeks her out to help mend their relationship and the kingdom. I would say that pushes her out of morally gray in my personal opinion, but I also understand where the morally gray placing comes from

[@JamminJesse1996]

It would be really interesting to see tier lists for casts of the whole shows. For example DEH, going through each (principal) character. If this became a series I’d like to see where the characters for like Into the Woods (I have opinions about the bakers wife), Hamilton, Carrie, Heathers, etc. fall. Categories could include misunderstood (portrayed villain that is truly an ok guy, vice versa), true villain, etc. Love your content. Officially huge fan of you both ❤️

[@notkatiecollins1037]

omg what are your opinions on the bakers wife? I'm playing her, and would love to know your thoughts!

[@JamminJesse1996]

@@notkatiecollins1037 first of all. Congratulations on landing that role. It’s my opinion that the Bakers Wife will never be content. She’s always looking for something(or someone) else to make her life feel fulfilled. Going so far as to sleep with someone else (doesn’t matter if he’s a prince or a hobo honestly) to try to feel fulfilled. THEN SHE BLAMES THE WOODS! Idk. I’m glad she died because continuing down that path she would have been a terrible mother, she was already a terrible wife. Empty people tend to be bad people because they keep searching for that thing that will fulfill them/keep their attention/etc. and they hardly get held accountable for their actions because “they were searching for themselves”.

[@notkatiecollins1037]

@@JamminJesse1996 Thank you so much!! :) I have to say I agree. It's so interesting how you said that character's hardly get held accountable because they were 'searching for themselves'. Damn, the more I think about it, the more flawed characters are coming to mind. In Moments In The Woods, however, I do think she has a bit of a realisation. Throughout the whole show she's been constantly wanting more, unhappy with her own life and believing that the grass is greener on the other side. Once she gets with the Prince, I think she realises that it's not (and the would-be's are never as great as you'd expect them to be). She comes to appreciate that the 'ors' have more value than the 'ands'. I'd be interested in see how that character development directed her life forwards if she didn't die. We can always wonder if she would be a better mother/wife. Although I have to be honest, she hardly deserves it.

[@JamminJesse1996]

@@notkatiecollins1037 I think playing her to be sympathetic is absolutely the move. Otherwise you have an entire crowd of my mindset clapping when that tree falls lol. (I’m an actor myself and play a lot of antagonists and it hurts when people clap when you die. Just sayin) Break all the legs in your production (when I auditioned for ITW, I wasn’t cast at all)!

[@katiecollins5895]

@@JamminJesse1996 Yeah, she's got to be likable!! Gotta make them feel the feels when I die! (Would hurt for everyone to clap HAHA - poor you. I guess it means you were playing the antagonist well!). I'm sure that casting team made a horrible mistake! Thank you so much :)

[@jordanrainey4179]

Sam: Sorry something on my eye Ryan: OOOOOOH YOUR eye hurts😑

[@eme6769]

Tier list for the most unproblematic characters on Broadway/ off Broadway

[@fashionablechangeling1988]

Percy Jackson, Eliza Schuyler

[@cultoftahiti]

Peggy Schuyler, Catherine Parr (pretty sure), Martha Dunnstock

[@tastetherainebow7791]

Kinda macnamara

[@ameliamorgan2287]

Emmett Forrest

[@jennatomashosky8624]

Cosette and Fantine from Les Miserables.

[@TheLoverbug567]

"Can you put an alien plant in jail...in America wed find a way" Tea!

[@jacquelinegallman6209]

real tea right here: if Evan wasn’t written as a teen with crippling social anxiety and an outcast, he would have NEVER gotten away with what he got away with. And if you really think about it, there’s no real protagonist in DEH. No one gets what they want/ and no one wins.

[@VyeLikesRocks]

Except for Jared, but there is no way in heck that Jared is a protagonist

[@julianjpantoja4603]

The protagonist is just the main character, the one the audience follows. Evan may not be a good person, but he's the protagonist nonetheless.

[@fashionablechangeling1988]

I think you mean to say hero instead of protagonist

[@requiem6286]

Okay, my thoughts: Gaston and Galinda (although people like that live among us) should be in bad, but not evil, I think that simply because they have realistic bad traits and actions doesn't make them any better. I think Evan is a little more complicated than you gave him credit for (and this is coming from someone who isn't a huge fan of the show partially because of the questionable morality). My interpretation of the plot is that the Murphys thought Evan and Conner were friends and when he tried to tell them otherwise they kept on insisting that it was true and that Evan was just confused until he didn't know what to tell them and he caved. At the dinner, Evan realized how much his fake stories about Conner meant to them and couldn't bear to come clean. After that, his motivation gets more and more selfish (in the second act). And that's why I think it was right to put him in morally grey, he was a confused and lonely kid who had good intentions, even if his actions were straight up terrible.

[@broadwaybrook2319]

Yeah, I always credit the fact that Evan DID try to tell the Murphys that he and Connor weren't friends, but they were so desperate for something good about Connor to hold onto, that they kept insisting that they WERE friends, like you said. And Evan just didn't know how to tell them that they were wrong. And for a teenager who had always been ignored and seen as weird, being recognized in the hallways by people who normally didn't even acknowledge his existence felt good for once. Even though he did embrace his popularity too much, he tried to commit suicide because he felt that nobody cared about him.

[@rtcnoodles]

NOOOO WHAT DID GALINDA DO 😭😭😭😭

[@lucycunningham6504]

I’m glad someone brought up the point he did try to come clean before anything could even happen. He was put in a difficult situation that he just happened to benefit from. I mean, if it were me, I couldn’t imagine looking in the eyes of a grieving mother, knowing I’m essentially her life line, and telling her, “no, I don’t know your son.” And I think he mentions that. At least in the movie, I haven’t seen the stage version. As a side note, I also think this gets overlooked because Ben Platt was an adult in the movie. 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@mirandaburk152]

I'd love to hear your guys thoughts on Carrie the musical. I feel like it's so underrated. The opening number really gives me Heathers vibes.

[@cuzwhynot253]

Yessss

[@superdisney5535]

@@cuzwhynot253 I agree. You know, if Carrie becomes a revival musical on Broadway, I think Ryan would be amazing as Billy Nolan.

[@Alex_Hue]

Yas I love Carrie!

[@fredgwynn8933]

I don’t fault Evan as much as I fault the writers for coming up with an icky story. Flat out, it’s just unpleasant to watch him manipulate a GRIEVING family and we’re supposed to be like “aww empathize with his side” No. I don’t care to when he’s actively creating more trauma for this family. And the fact the PR has really tried to turn this into a moving tale. Ew

[@jenniferr8394]

The plot of this musical is just effed up. I am kind of baffled as to how popular it is. It's a well done show, but the plot is one giant HOOOOO BOY.

[@khakis69]

​@@jenniferr8394 a lot of people like controversial stories that aren't black and white. I actually think it's a good thing to be able to exercise empathy for people who do bad things (this isn't the same thing as excusing their actions)

[@francesstewart7995]

The worst part is that Evan is such a good manipulator that half the audience forgets he's in the wrong

[@MsCloudnumber9]

"the phantom of the opera is here... here. in our video."

[@bels3873]

This starts out like it's an Intelligent Drinking Game and you guys have already done the shots.

[@Laura-wf7ro]

On buzzfeed there's a quiz that tells you which hogwarts house you DON'T belong to. I did it and got Gryffindor. Would be cool to see if you could get that result as well.

[@AfterAllThisTime7]

Javert definitely belongs in the morally gray tier. He is one of the 'miserable' because he was born in prison, from the 'gutter' and had to fight to prove himself as a good police officer, he has so much moral conflict within the film fighting with ideas of right and wrong to fit into this society and things that he thought were certain no longer are, and ends in his suicide because he can't cope with the emotional conflict. I have a lot of feelings about javert, but he was also just doing what he thought was right in the circumstances, and if an escaped convict showed up years later, of course you'd try hunt him down to prove you're good at your job instead of letting him get away.

[@Daniel-ed9gn]

I agree. Sam and Ryan also said that Javert spent all this time hunting down Valjean, when we don’t really know if that’s true because of how much time the show covers. As viewers of Les Mis I think we’re supposed to see that Javert is wrong but have sympathy for him because he’s well meaning.

[@seacucumber679]

yeah, i agree. javert's isn't seeking justice as much as he is obsessed with it. i would put him in moraly grey because his choices force him to live by rules that are fundamentally bad but he himself is not bad. Edit: javert's actions would get him a lawsuit tho.

[@biologynerd3]

Thank you for saying this so I don’t have to.

[@jenniferr8394]

@@seacucumber679 Morally gray isn't a bad one. Like Javert is legit convinced that Valjean is evil (whether or not he should be is another story) and he's operating off that premise.

[@baileyjoe.p]

y’all are talking abt politicians and i’m over here like “YOU LOVE ME LIKE A POLITICIAN TICIAN TICIAN “

[@livaliberte4275]

Same and also about that time in an old video of questions when Ryan asked what he would be if he wasn't an actor and Sam said politician but the answer was actually English teacher

[@aimeebrown-borges]

There is a part in one of the Frozen shorts they made between the release of Frozen and Frozen 2 where Hans is shown warming and cleaning so you were right Ryan!

[@samhughes6424]

I thought he was working in a stable and got hit by a snowball and landed in horse manure or something. Was there more than one short that showed him?

[@MissLaurenLipstick]

OBSESSED WITH THIS and want a part 2!!! I agree with your ranking lol

[@holdenc.1442]

if you ever do a part 2 of this, I suggest putting both Jekyll and Hyde in

[@PurpleBiscuit]

Ryan's energy on this video? *chef kiss* inmaculate. Full song covers of all his imitations SPECIALLY of Patti

[@angeladavidson2350]

For Evan I find it really hard to be upset with him, even though what he did was undeniably wrong. He has social anxiety, tried to commit suicide, is an outcast, his father left him when he was a kid- that is a lot to deal with. It doesn't condone what he did at all, but when you take it into account as well as the fact that he's a teenager, it's hard to be that upset with him. And he is remorseful for what he did and tries to make it better, which is important. That's just my opinion.

[@reubenfuchs2747]

I think Veronica from Heathers would be worth considering for this list. A lot of her decisions are pretty problematic, I'd be excited to see where she is placed.

[@toastyy_cat]

Definitely morally grey. She's problematic yes but most of her bad decisions revolve around Martha and the way Veronica treats her, since Veronica's Chandler-esque interaction with Martha is what mainly causes Martha to give up on life and end it all. The only other bad decision of Veronica imo is choosing to stay with JD and give him a second chance even after he tricked her and almost made her kill someone (since in the musical Veronica never actually killed Kurt but if she had better aim she definitely could've unknowingly murdered him) especially because she knows he is a murderer and is aware he wants to kill more people. After the "accidental" murder of Chandler (I say accidental bc JD knew she grabbed the wrong mug but didn't stop her) Veronica didn't know JD was actually a murderer yet, seeing as she was the one holding the mug and not him. Veronica believes there's good in everyone, she says so herself in the beginning of the musical so it's no wonder that even after JD has murdered three people and is preparing to blow up a school that she still tries to get him to join her. Ofc it's very optimistic on her part, trying to see the good in a person who is manipulative, abusive, psychopathic, and a MURDERER (almost mass murderer even). But even if she does make horrible decisions that hurt people I do believe she redeems herself by the end by being completely ready to sacrifice herself for the sake of her school since she believed JD was dead. And even though JD sacrifices himself instead her making up with Martha is taking the red scrunchie from Duke really shows how devoted she is to create a "society" where different social types CAN get along and come together as a functional community. This is so long omg I'm sorry lmao I just really love Veronica and I wanted to give my personal opinion (I know you weren't asking for it tho 🥲) anyways have a nice day/night and thank you for taking the time to read this well thought out essay I typed out at 2 am 🤭🤭

[@Emma-yc4er]

The doctor from waitress should be under lawsuit because sleeping with your patient Is VERY illegal.

[@lanasage6650]

16:12 “you can’t cheat on your wife and then publish it, henny” ummmm… just ask Jason Robert Brown and you’ll see you most definitely CAN

[@bels3873]

You blew up an anthill??? You can't just say that and leave it there, we need that story.

[@glambertgurl1117]

RIP ants! You will never be forgotten. 🤣🐜🐜🐜🐜🐜🐜🐜🐜

[@dinahsilva1018]

@@glambertgurl1117 ngl probably gonna forget tomorrow lol

[@glambertgurl1117]

@@dinahsilva1018 True. 🤣🤣

[@Sophia-vi6ls]

I love this list, but I think we can all agree that the one thing we are missing on this list is James Corden

[@corapalanski9479]

i just have to say that the broadway “revival” of waitress should be extended, and they put in Ryan and Jessica Vosk as Pomater and Jenna pretty please

[@AS-bo2rz]

Ahhh people so misunderstand Evan that it’s painful. Not saying that what he did was right but when people paint it as all bad without taking into account the individual behind the action and all the other shit that is going on with these characters, it’s soooo painful. PS people like Evan because they feel seen and can relate to his feelings etc

[@lillicooper2595]

and he was literally a teenager, and originally he didnt do it to get with zoe, he did it to make them feel better

[@aceofspace14]

Good intentions and or Evan's own mental health issues don't excuse his actions though.

[@akuhlgirl5550]

Fun Fact: the town that was Aaron Burr’s base of operations, and Harman Blennerhassett (his main benefactor/ co conspirator) is my hometown so I’ve known about Burr’s plot to take over the US for so long. The Blennerhassett family was the richest family along the Ohio river at the time and their island, yes they owned an entire island, is now a state park and you can tour it and even see a replica of what their mansion looked like. On one of the walking paths there’s even a sign that shows the famous people that have visited and Burr and his daughter are on the sign!

[@kaitbergmann]

Someone finally said something about Dr.Pommatter ( I don’t know the spelling) he was so manipulative

[@jess_k6281]

wait but wasn’t his wife pretty much never there anymore and they weren’t really happy together anymore right? and then obviously jenna wanted out of her relationship so i think they both just needed to get out of their relationships right?? i mean idk tho

[@luna_elvenstar]

i zoomed in on ryan’s sunglasses because i was bored and i realised that sam and ryan aren’t talking to me like we’re besties they’re talking to a camera and now i’m sad

[@jenniferkril479]

Gaston put Maurice in a mental institution by convincing everyone he was mad when he knew full well the beast was real… so he could get at his daughter. I don’t believe he felt like he was in the right there 😂 it’s just horrid!

[@maddietillem6778]

Them not knowing anything about waitress makes me sad. It's like my all time favorite show

[@keilyhenriquez1325]

I think that Evan is very difficult to place on the list. I think he did a bad thing but if I was in his situation I would have absolutely know idea what to tell the Murphys I dont think many people would have the heart to tell them the truth immediately

[@molpahia]

I think the thing with evan that a lot of people dont See or dont get is that in the beginning when he first meets connor's parents he actually wants to tell them the thruth and tries to do so but they arent really listening (probably because they just lost their son) and so evan just starts to go with it also because he sees that Connor having a friend really helps them cope with his death. He didnt tell them he Was friends with Connor because he wanted to be with his sister. That would be fucked up tho

[@heyitsriles13]

12:23 No one: Ryan: home girl waitress and the scary- and the big bad

[@meganknight5262]

Dang I really needed this vid, thx for the laughs!!! Can’t wait to see what else you have to offer!

[@musicmoviegirl565]

Okay but with the Dr. Pomatter one...isn't there something about how Doctors can't have relations with their patients? Like yeah the cheating would get him canceled but i think that fact that it was a patient and a doctor would at least open the conversations for some kind of legal action

[@elizabethheyn5365]

I would've put him in lawsuit, I think. Doctors can't have romantic relationships with their patients, which they did touch on, very briefly, in Bad Idea.

[@jenniferr8394]

Yup, that is officially Lawsuit territory!

[@HulaHula667]

Was looking for this comment! It’s definitely a big legal no-no to have a relationship with a patient.

[@rebeccabucy3407]

Didn't think that Ryan could be a cooler dude but here he is dealing with diabetes and still an amazing actor/singer/so many other things. I also have type one diabetes, seeing someone thrive with it is so motivating. Thanks for being awesome

[@Good_Eve]

As much as I love Evan, I agree he is quite problematic and I’m not surprised he was on this list

[@juliarosa6966]

your explanation of the characters low key made me rethink life 🤣

[@hannahschlosser-hall3093]

Are we forgetting the Wizard's creation and basically torture of the flying monkeys in Wicked? Prison behavior if you ask me

[@thefilmwatcher1216]

I'd say that Gaston is a sympathetic antagonist. He's not a good person, but I think he was shaped by those around him who praised him constantly and didn't see that he was going down a dark path. This, coupled with his extreme narcissism and insecurity, led to his death. What an unbelievably tragic figure.

[@mcsawyer]

Honestly, this was accurate excluding the “bad but not evil category”. Imagine the story of mama rose popping up on Twitter. She’d for sure get cancelled. Same for Burr. He legit got canceled in the show too. I think morally they belong in “bad but not evil” but they’re such good “canceled” material 😂

[@FatimaSorianoOfficial]

I love their point about Anna in Frozen. I get that she was lonely, had been ever since Elsa drifted away from her to protect her, which she did not know at the Time. But there is a huge difference between naivety and stupidity, and admittedly she crosses over into the latter a bit. Not slamming her, far from it. But honestly, to straight up agree to marry a guy you literally just met a few minutes ago is inconceivable to me. Is it any wonder Elsa's why Elsa reacted the way she did, thereby starting the entire driving plot of the story? No. Any thinking, decent human being would be out of their minds to let a sibling enter into a lifelong commitment with someone they barely know. Thanks for voicing this out, Ryan and Sam!

[@vierafisher6756]

The fashion icon that is eye infection Ryan, absolutely a great fit 💕

[@niamhgallagher2429]

I completely agree with all of these- you were completely correct with all of these. I love you guys so much. X

[@jakeb3847]

Personally, I think the problem with Anna is the fact that she was also cut off from civilisation so she didn’t know how to act with people, especially in terms of love

[@Jetrowdy]

Exactly! There’s literally a deleted song called “True Love” where her expectations on what love should be aren’t what they seem and unfortunately learned the hard way.

[@suchetagulrajani2482]

Hamilton wasnt even a loyal friend...he promised to help Lafayette but he left him to fight on his own

[@kawaiipotatochan6666]

I feel like Hamilton is redeemable,what he did was wrong but i still feel like he can be redeemed @ me

[@bananabot151]

I mean the line "my God she looked so helpless and her body's saying hell yes" really makes it hard to forgive him

[@luizasabbaga592]

Also not necessarily what he did, but kinda how his brain works? Hahahah, when Angelica came back after hearing about the affair and he assumed she was going to stay by his side like GIRL YOU OK! He just completely disregards Eliza CONSTANTLY throughout the show and she’s a queen and SHE always stays by his side aware of her self-worth because love I guess kfjdkdkdk. Idk, I love hamilton, but I hate Alex

[@kawaiipotatochan6666]

@@luizasabbaga592 I'd say it's both,i do hate him for what he did,i wanna smack him across the room,even if i want to redeem him nobody can excuse any of his actions that bit him in the a$$. Like i said,a chance that he can be redeemed,or redeem himself is a possibility.

[@kawaiipotatochan6666]

@@bananabot151 true

[@jeremyweitendorf6723]

I clearly haven’t seen Wicked in a long time because my first thought was “What could be wrong with perfectly sweet Glinda?”

[@jch2330]

This is the first video I’ve ever seen of you guys, it was recommended to me by the algorithm and I’m already rooting for u, I just loved your energy, humor, references, and especially, the way you bounce off off each other. I truly hope you guys get really far :))

[@Chichi0013]

Fun fact: in a song call ten things on thing a cut song from hamilton it gives him more reason too do what he did

[@missckelly]

I love that Ryan sings a song from every show that's on this list

[@adalynnj]

"There's something in my eye, too, an infection!" -Ryan 2022

[@jagodley]

I fully agree with these rankings, wow. I loved this concept, well done!!

[@Majestic-Yeti83]

The second they said JD I instantly knew they were gonna say straight to prison lol

[@sagejennings4342]

I do feel like a few other things need to be brought up for Dr. Pomatter though that could tilt him towards lawsuit. The potential power dynamic of him being her doctor AND was she paying for those appointments in which she was not being (medically) examined? Their meetings were on record as appointments, so did she have insurance that was covering them? Did Dr. Pomatter ever turn down another patient to meet with her?

[@jasminehouze8932]

this was so great... but how was Evan Hansen not cancelled!? if that was pulled now, he could be sooooo cancelled and maybe even sued.

[@ineedsleep3436]

This is such an interesting thing to rank I’m so excited!!

[@RoyallyHansky]

Is Alexander's 'Ambition his Folly'

[@juliapremo813]

On this episode of “overthinking for fun”

[@evelynarcher5964]

8:55 Ryan is probably remembering when Hans was sweeping horse dung 💩 in one of the Frozen shorts

[@yee-raplantar-maximoff4318]

I was scared when I saw Glinda, but when you specified that it was GAlinda I calmed down. I totally agree with you :)

[@Christineovison]

In the casting notices for Phantom of the Opera, role of Christine Daae she is in her 20s. In the original book she and Raoul were also both in their 20s.

[@yeetmaster323]

I think y’all r forgetting that Hans attempted to KILL the PRINCESS of Arendele… obviously jail

[@brooke____]

Them: dear Evan Hansen is a dark show Me: watching heathers and sweeney Todd and thinking nothing of just how dark they are

[@mimicuthbert3957]

When you said "He's waving through a window, not prison bars" all I could think of was Ben Platt performing the cell block tango 🤣

[@Alex_Hue]

Its been a little while, but it would be cool to do a part two since most musical characters aren’t entirely good, so maybe with people like legally blonde characters, Carrie, Spring Awakening, etc? 😊

[@toxicsugarart2103]

Definitely agree overall about Evan, but to me it seemed like at first he didn’t tell the truth not because he wanted to gain anything from it, but because he couldn’t speak up. This is all just my interpretation, but it feels like his core motivation is trying to keep things in control because of his anxiety, at least until Disappear. I think that’s when he starts to actually seek out more than just keeping the lie under control. Idk lol.

[@eleenakelley9002]

You should do a tier list of the live action disney movies!!

[@calebcox2937]

That Patti impression was spot on

[@claireneville1070]

Gaston should be a couple tiers higher not for the attempted murder, but for trying to blackmail belle into marrying him. that's like... basically attempted rape

[@ForeverEva]

Javert didn’t necessarily follow Valjean around and ignore his other duties; he just happens to run into Valjean and tries to arrest him whenever he sees him, which is what a police officer’s job is. In my opinion, he should be in the “bad, but not evil” tier.

[@alilura1882]

Javert is one of my favorite characters of all time. I don’t disagree with your placement but he deserves more discussion. He truly thinks up until the end that he is doing the right thing. I tend to put him in the same category as Severus Snape. Good character, but not a good person. I love characters who have depth to them if you actually take the time to peel back the layers of the onion. Also “Stars” is one of my all time favorite songs. Not just Broadway songs… all songs.

[@mariah2161]

ok, i have an issue with anna being on this list. she suffered countless traumas when growing up. her parents died, her sister just abandoned and rejected her, she spent her whole youth locked up in a castle, without any connection to the outside world. she longed for some kind of company. i think she was a victim of circumstance. if things were handled differently by her parents and elsa, she wouldn't be so desperate for any human connection she could get... hans was the first person who actually paid attention to her. she was so lonely. she never had anyone to teach her anything, of course she didn't know better! it's like blaming someone with untreated and unresolved mental health issues for doing things the 'wrong' way.

[@derekr9758]

Sam talking about Hamilton: Are you dead?? Me: Do whatever you want, I’m super dead

[@esquatrito]

I’d love to see a part 2 with Mrs Lovett and Sweeney!!

[@meghan_theatre]

Ok I LOVE waitress and dr. Pomatter, but I think he is in lawsuit category because he is a doctor in a relationship with his patient which is illegal. Making their relationship highly unethical and would be considered malpractice. So, in real-world, would he be cancelled, yes, however there would probably be a lawsuit and he could potentially lose his license.

[@grace_ly]

i honestly agree with each choice. maybe not at first, but i do see it. and i haven’t seen ryan in a few years, glad to see you’re doing well!!

[@aspen2203]

When I heard 'cancelled' just went "Alexander Hamilton had a torrid affair and he wrote it down right there."

[@claireb2380]

"Daaaaamn !"

[@TheMcSkilletz]

y'all did anna so dirty...

[@roeennooran4671]

Im so interested in how/if they will change things in the Dear Evan Hansen movie musical in order to make him less problematic

[@yodaya70]

Gaston would definitely be sued for what he does to Maurice at least

[@lilavril3]

i wish u referenced the shangri-las “he’s good bad, but he’s not evil”

[@cameron1617]

Anyone else notice the sun tan/burn line ngl I noticed because I’m hella jealous, moving to America in 2022 so maybe I’ll get some for once haha🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@amymauritz7333]

Could you guys do a part 2?? Cause there are so many other characters you could add to this list

[@booluther]

Great video. Always here for your theatre videos x

[@dearpoet6385]

This was such a fun video! Please do a Broadway behind the curtain video!

[@LoraK31]

Ryan, I'd love to see a video on how diabetes might affect performing. I was recently diagnosed with T1D and would love to get back into theater, but I keep worrying about how I'd handle a low blood sugar in the middle of a performance. Some advice would be so cool!