SALVAGE HAIL DAMAGE CAR CHEAP! NEW Mustang GT Destroyed easy to fix but is it worth a rebuild?

[@Samcrac]

Hey everyone I've added my follow up to this video explaining my thoughts on the value and work associated with these 2 cars: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oWrae2eKiMebmKM

[@Jurijim314]

How u do u calculations on auction fees and is it same as iaai? Thanks

[@giuseppesanci4941]

Samcrac s

[@gottas33]

New subscriber 😊

[@tsyslick]

Samcrac lol

[@johnsradios484]

Samcrac is a great way of telling people iiii

[@MrAdrianoandrade]

The secret of these cars is to use “as is”. Just put new glass and drive and be glad you were able to buy a GT Mustang for 22k

[@randomsomeone1617]

this may sound odd... but most videos on youtube contain so much "filler" if you will. Your videos are the exception to the rule. nearly every sentence you speak contains valuable knowledge. ... for this i applaude you my friend. Keep up the good work!

[@stwhite5135]

Agreed. I even can put up with the commercials.

[@BriSoza]

Random Someone accurate comment.

[@FishFind3000]

Everyone wants to be at 10min otherwise no ad money. It really ruins content.

[@alancontreras1362]

I agree, I’m not even looking into rebuilding car but motorcycle.

[@donburke4886]

Are you fucking kidding....This was just a lot of talking crap...Skip skip,skip,skip,skip...Nothing but bullshit.!!!

[@stlchucko]

Having worked at a body shop in a tornado alley state, I can’t tell you how many roof skins I’ve replaced. After one major hailstorm, I worked 60-70 hrs a week (the whole shop did) for the next 9 months; mostly on hail damage. It got to the point where another guy and I teamed up and we were replacing 1-2 roof skins a day (on top of the other damage, but the roof was the most time intensive) for months.

[@finncone4715]

plastic body panels are what made saturn cars immune to hail damage. :) RIP saturn 1982-2010

[@JohnIsett]

+The Iardine A little wishful thinking, brother. See this pic! Ugh, sorry! www.autobody-review.com/blog/can-hail-damage-total-my-car

[@chrissearls2007]

Resistant maybe, but NOT immune!

[@dermharse9614]

Not to mention they were one GM's most favorite and reliable GM vehicles.

[@ruicoelhoruic5678]

only the side panels were plastic

[@dennissmith6783]

Too bad that was the only good thing about them

[@klwthe3rd]

I want to start off by saying that Sam with this channel is probably the most thorough and educated on the topic of buying rebuildable cars. He doesn't sugar coat or gloss over ANY of the important facts that are necessary to make an intelligent decision in your purchase. He knows his subject and explains it well so all of us can learn from his experience. Thank you Sam for your dedication to helping us succeed. Now on the topic of hail damage. I think in the world of repairable cars, i personally like hail damage, vandalized and other non-major structural repairs. I know Sam disagrees with me but with dent-less paint removal being as good as it is and the availability of OEM parts at pull a part junkyards, it's just easier for the DIYer to fix these types of cars. I'm not a body shop and the costs associated with them are so high. I don't want to be worrying about structure problems with undercarriage issues and getting panel fit to be acceptable when i can just just have one guy fix all the problems without the labor of any removal of body panels and paint work. My personal favor is vandalized vehicles because a lot of them are interior related with destroyed dashes due to people trying to steal the radio. It might take me a year or so to hunt down all the color coded interior parts but i can do that in a rolling restoration type format. You're buying from Insurance companies which tend to be better sellers than dealers and i'm getting a car with a great engine and transmission with little worries of mechanical issues. I hope Sam spends some future time on vandalized cars as most of his viewers are NOT auto body techs and focus on the cars that average people can fix with little to no effort but save a ton of money. Thanks

[@Samcrac]

Kenneth, I agree 100% with what you've said. The ONLY reason I don't really look for hail damaged cars are because of the reasons I discuss in the video. Competition at these auctions has really increased, doesn't mean you can't still find an awesome deal on a hail damaged car!

[@klwthe3rd]

Samcrac Where I live I know lots of paintless dent repair specialist that if you have over a certain number of dents on your car, they will just charge you ONE PRICE to do the entire car. They work with local dealerships specifically when they suffer hail damage issues. So cost per dent is not always a factor. Hope it helps

[@Samcrac]

Thanks Ken. The ONLY issue I'd point out, is that while PDR is awesome especially when you have a few regular dings, severe hail damage might not come out as perfect as a body shop pulling, filling and painting the dents.

[@samg5543]

Hail vehicles are great if you do your own work and plan to keep it. If you are trying to make a profit, you will have a hard time. They cost too much from the auction, and they can take a ton of work to repair.

[@jackmallo3803]

My question is, in order to get it to pass an inspection to make a salvage title a rebuilt title, what is the minimum repair work you have to do. Repair windows and windshields? Do all the dents need to be repaired in order to obtain a rebuilt title?

[@jaythrash8804]

Some panels can be warped, especially the roof panel, which would cost a bit "in labor alone" to replace it...

[@JUST_ONE_ID10T]

I was just checking online at the closest Hyundai dealer to me and they are offering 8,000 off the msrp for the Sonata. so no it's not worth it. you can get a new with clear title for less.

[@BenjaminXian]

BLISSFUL FAPPER 8000 off for a 23000 car?! Holy

[@muskokamike127]

I was just writing on that.....whoever pays MSRP for a vehicle is a fool. Most OEMs have all kinds of rebates and incentives even on popular vehicles like the mustang gt.....

[@georgemartinez4864]

Muskoka Mike explain

[@remixislandmusic510]

You can get a brand new loaded Altima 2.5 with leather radar cruise a sunroof and nav for 23k

[@anujbhatt2842]

BLISSFUL FAPPER don't forget their 100k mile warranty. Even if it's just the powertrain but it's a really good deal. I think it's like 50k miles for bumper to bumper warranty if I'm not mixing another brand with this.

[@chrissearls2007]

You could probably drive a new $23K Sonata off the lot for $21K with only light negotiation. Buying that salvage title Sonata, plus the headache of doing all the repairs, and having a vehicle that will always have a lower resale value for years seems hardly worth the trouble IMHO!

[@Samcrac]

Agree, will discuss in follow up vid!

[@JUST_ONE_ID10T]

the local dealer to me is offer 8,000 off msrp. so not worth it at all.

[@cryptsys]

far less. i walked away with 11,000 off the sticker price of my sonata sport turbo. sticker was 28k

[@chrissearls2007]

WOW, it would seem they took a huge loss on that sale to you, as I can't imagine that there is $11K worth of markup on a $28K vehicle.

[@TheCobruhAlienat0r]

Maybe he bought the outgoing generation and they were looking to get it off the lot to make room for the new gen.

[@medicinemanager]

Id do the minimum to the body of the mustang.Repair the glass and fender/lights. Id use the darn thing for a hack around car. I wouldn't be afraid of a few new dents or scratches. As more time passes..used parts would come available or aftermarket pieces at discounted prices(supply and demand).As long as the car was able to be driven,safe,and kept me safe and dry, I could stand that it looks like Dookie.

[@mcearl8073]

Keith Knott II I'd agree if it was a much cheaper example but it's safe to say you'll spend 23k plus tax and minimum repairs just to drive it and you're at over 25k. That's a lot of money for a beater that looks like shit. I'd rather just spend a little more and have it looking good or get a different car.

[@dvdfrnzwbr]

I dont mind a dent as long as the paint isn't cracked or chipped, because that could lead to rust.

[@olemissjim]

With a salvage title these are going to be hard to make a profit on that justifies the risk.

[@hyperfocal2002]

The Mustang might be worth it if you want to drive it for some time or modify for a track day car. Don't think it would be a good flip, though. The Sonata will be a huge loser.

[@gm92845]

hyperfocal2002 Yeah, I would just buy the mustang for pure enjoyment. The resale value will always be terrible because of the salvage title.

[@jimmygrant3212]

hyperfocal2002 Hyundais fall apart around 100k miles anyways they're pieces of shit.

[@dj4monie]

Not true. Okay maybe if you live in a crappy climate. But out here you even see an Excel every so often. I live in Southern California.

[@hyperfocal2002]

I live in one of the worst climates. Rust o rama. ...and poor prices for fun cars.

[@theskilledpug8905]

hyperfocal2002 the Subaru might be worth something

[@stebenit]

i'd rather buy an hail damage car you will be able to see all the damage it as,buying one smashed up you never know whats hidden underneath,mustang would be worth a punt imo...

[@One-Up]

rule number one never pay buy now price at copart auction, if you wait for the car to go on live auction it always goes a lot cheaper than buy it now price, i know from 4 years of experience, rule number two if ur gonna buy hail damaged car buy one with clean title, most insurance companies leave the title clean after hail damage, for example look in copart denver CO location, u will find clean title hail damaged cars all the time, clean title makes it a lot easier when its time to sell the thing down the road,

[@larrystarkey8781]

I agree, buy it now prices are usually dream prices, and the cars end up selling for much less. Not always, but most of the time. The newer the car the more this is true.

[@samlung2724]

ethioagent the buy now is still cheap but for a different audience lol. Mainly for people looking for a personal car

[@Dudemieser]

Amen on the buy it now prices! Last year I wanted a late model Camaro , I was hesitant but went down there anyway and ended up getting it for exactly 1/2 the B.I.K. price

[@radbug]

yes because once an auction shows its bid around 70% of buy it now price, someone will just Buy it Now.

[@lukes7027]

A very informative and succinct video. The narrator talks about hail damaged vehicles with knowledge and experience. What is missing from this video is the narrator talking for 7 minutes about himself and his cat and his fathers 65 Volkswagen that he bought for a great price in Canada. This is all business and very professionally presented! Hats off to you!

[@jamez2u]

I do paintless dent repair(PDR) in California. And have heard stories of PDR guys getting a grand a day after hail storms repairing this stuff. Then my nephew came back from college where his car got hit by hail in Colorado. I went and spent 4 hours working on that car and I was about half way done with one panel. I was amazed that the paint actually cracked in places. I am sorry but if you think buying some glass, a few panels will make the car look as good as new you are in for a awful awaking. There are is damage everywhere and like Sam said those trim panels cant be fixed. Also if your car has side airbags like most new cars do a PDR guy has to pull all that stuff out and put it back together adding to the total for labor. Do yourself a favor and stay away from these hail damage nightmares unless you can live with the dent all over your car or unless you want to spend thousands of dollars in training and hundreds of hours to get the experience needed to repair the body of these cars.

[@Sneaky_Pirate]

Harbor Freight + KZbin = Profesinal mechanic

[@brendanbarnes3076]

I agree with you on that. I work as a spray painter at a shop that does both cars and bikes and we refuse to take on a hail job as it isn’t worth us taking on one hail damage car instead of two or three bikes

[@radbug]

To repair dents: grind away paint with wheel (2 minutes). tac a rod to it with any cheap welder or even strong epoxy. Pull with big pliers. Grind off the rod. Smack with rubber hammer. (total half hour). Cover with filler. Sand flat (an hour, not including Dry time). Take to shop for paint match if you arent good at paint.

[@abrotherinchrist]

@@radbug If you think you can grid and pull either of those two cars in 32 minutes I think you should start your own body shop because sir, you will be RICH.

[@jonsmith1259]

A Dealer local to me in Dallas has 2017 Sonata, sticker $22,600, no hail damage. With the discount from the dealer and rebates, $17,515. No salvage title, either. Buy the new one and enjoy it immediately, the salvage car, a month, 6 weeks before it can be driven? I know which one I would buy, and it would not be the salvage one!

[@pgf202]

Also its pretty hard to get full coverage insurance on a salvage title car, so there's little to no savings with a bunch of hassles.

[@maverickdallas1004]

Kim Wallace ...There's an ass for every seat, and those outfits that command an outrageous price for these junkers realize that. As I mentioned before, given the cost of a professional quality repair, these vehicles are "mechanic's or bodyman specials", or just plain "fixer-uppers". They should be priced at a tiny fraction of a factory-fresh vehicle given the amount of restoration needed, loss of resale value and other hassles. These hail-damaged vehicles by rights, should be a dirt-cheap transportation solution for those who can do the work and are willing to put in the time and effort needed to bring them back into shape. Nothing more.

[@The_Laser_Channel]

I don't think the Sonata would be worth fixing really. Save $3000, plus you are not going to be able to just drive it away and enjoy it. At the time of the listing, the 2018 models were just a few months away, meaning these 2017 models would be for sale cheaper to make room for the new models. A local dealer has a 2017 Sonata for $18,000 with only 7K miles. Granted the one in this video only had 11 miles. However, it's $5000 off retail $23,000 price and ready to drive with a clean title. However, with the Mustang GT, It would still be worth buying from Copart and repairing.

[@shanepetit]

2017 used. $4-5000 depreciation. Take that figure and deduct 30% for salvage title. then ad 20% to your repair figure and see where that puts you. I don't think the mustang would be a good buy. you also have to factor in how long the interior was exposed to the weather at the yard and during the storm itself.

[@jorgerosales5242]

Muchas gracias Sam, I requested this HAIL video from you. Great work! I just bought a 2012 Civic EX 31K miles HAIL damage for $6K and just got deliver, honestly I have to look hard for the damages. Awesome! Muy agradecido Sam!

[@zealgaming9123]

I just subscribed, I love it when people share their experience and secrets to help people. I highly respect that.

[@chrishagen-mcinnes9492]

Love those garage doors with the over hanging lights. Looks great. And the Audi, some of the best built cars out there.

[@radbug]

gonna disagree about audi

[@MyDyerMaker]

I love the way Audis drive, but they're junk after a few years. BMWs are the same way. In my opinion, German luxury cars aren't made to last.

[@burhansiddiqui5198]

I am loving these videos my man

[@Samcrac]

Thanks!

[@4819385]

Considering both of the salvage vehicle titles will sell for only 70% of original value, there is no money to be made with both cars. In fact, the Sonata will lose money. Never pay buy it now price. It is never a good deal.

[@ChunkyMonkaayyy]

My buddy just bought a salvage car off Craigslist and it was half of what the same car was selling for on used car lots. That salvage title just scares a lot of people away.

[@MegaTechpc]

The Mustang could be worth a flyer if you intended on keeping it for yourself. Resale will suck but if you plan on keeping it long enough that wont matter anyway. Lose the warranty but you save $10k-$12k off new price.

[@radbug]

it might be a good deal if: You didnt care about all the dents and just bought it and drove it as is for 20 years.

[@aileensanchez4838]

I would just replace the broken glass in the Sonata and use it as my daily driver until it falls apart. I won't mind if it is dented.

[@cheeseblog]

I am not an auto mechanic. Nonetheless I very much enjoy your videos. You are very generous with your time and knowledge. A great teacher to boot. Thanks!

[@MarkH10]

I understand your comment about machine sprayer, but.......... Since I am still impressed with the brand I won't mention it, however I washed a cat at a fantastic body shop once, and the car was 153 days old. Our repair was for the dealer, and there was a clear coat 'V' shaped pattern of drips on the hood that even the 40 year in the business shop owner had to look ast multiple times to finally perceive. Once you did see it, however, you could readily find it again. 8 months later, I found a 185ish day old car from that same dealer which had 3 running drips on the vehicle hood face about 4 inches from the badge. I was stunned. until I recalled that our repair was to a front fender. I am embarrassed to say that each cat was built in the US. My point us that QC at a body shop is on a one piece basis, and can be much higher than a factory rushing out 20 to 50 cars an hour.

[@andrewwilson8317]

Learn to do PDR repairs yourself. Practice on the car and if you don't like doing it or can't get on with it then you lost nothing. The better your skills are the more money you can potentially save. You can do our PDR repairs between jobs and during quiet times. Make good friends with the body shop spray guys. If you get the parts ordered quickly ,the longer they have to fit your job in with their work load. If they can paint your hood when painting a white car then you in for a good saving. Throw nothing away! Little clips,liners,trim bits,badges etc can swallow up money quickly.

[@whereisbenzo]

Please continue with the videos man, this channel looks like it's gonna grow fast! I went through the process of rebuilding a salvaged car (13 Jeep Wrangler) and something like these videos would've really helped.

[@BourbonDrinker]

I bought a brand-new 2015 Ford Explorer Limited in Tomball, Texas that was hail damaged and wasn't disclosed. The dealership fixed it, and sold it as new, perfectly legal in Texas I found out. Our first clue that something was wrong was the paint started cracking on the roof and there were issues with the paint quality on the hood being rough to the touch, they cut the rear window washer line so when we went to wash the rear window, the fluid ran into the head liner. We took it back after 2 weeks, the dealer refused to exchange it, and we went through 2 years of back and forth to fix it. After the first repair, the repair shop at the dealer clued us in on the previous hail damage. After owning it for 2 years, we had it in shop for a total of 6 months! That includes new sun roof, 3 new paint jobs, and a list of other things the dealer broke along the way while trying to fix the hail damage. I would stay far away from a hail damaged car.

[@dealsfromvirginia1773]

My 2014 Ford Transit Connect was in a fail storm in Colorado in 2016. The damage was barely noticeable as the van is silver. Upon my return home I contacted my insurance company and got an estimate for repair. I was shacked that it was just over 10k. Since I could barely see the damage I elected to not have the van repaired and pocketed the insurance money. My 25k van only cost me 15k and I'm still lovin it as it's my daily driver.

[@itsnotme07]

Good info. Maybe one of these days, when I have "extra cash" for a purchase like this...I'll try it. For the Hyundai...I wouldn't even have repaired it...who cares what it looks like as long as it is weatherproof and drives new. The Mustang....that's a money maker even after the repairs (DIY I'm guessing), and as you said...it's a great car for a super price.

[@alexanderseyz7893]

just found ur chanel im in the market for a car but i never thought this could be an option thank you for a the info

[@davidmoncada1571]

Ofcourse great video! I needed all that clear information since i didn't know why a car was already with a salvage title and i was confused if the car had a prior accident. Thanks a lot

[@davidhutchison3343]

My wife's car was hail damaged and written off. The insurance company gave us an option to buy the car back for 25% of its current value. Apart from 1 broken tail light, the rest of the damage was cosmetic, and our state government allowed the car to be re-licensed. 8 years later, we still have the car and don't even notice the dents anymore.

[@jasminemontoya6692]

I bought my car hail damaged a 2013 Nissan altima sv for $5000 in 2019 I've been driving it for 3 years without shame and I'm proud of it because I was able to buy it all by myself with no cosigner a newer car at the time it's been in a rear ended hit and run so now I'm thinking of just fixinf everything now with the money I'm getting from insurance since it's considered totaled but still a usable working car

[@tyler238]

Id never spend 20k on a car thats "considered" salvaged

[@alancontreras1362]

tyler238 what if it’s a 200,000 car? 🤔

[@evaluna122]

tyler238 what If original price is like 65,000, 20k is a great deal

[@cocmaster4474]

@@alancontreras1362 nope,parts for repair would be very expensive...

[@raymondgeorge1989]

Beware a title can be salvaged if the car was just stolen and insurance company paid on it!) Hope that might help a bit maybe you already knew if so sorry waste your time! GB

[@jaythrash8804]

@@evaluna122 65k new or 65k used?

[@juhthreef]

Sonata not even close to worth it, mustang is meh in my opinion for all the time/effort it'll take to fix & considering it'll always have a lower resale value in the future. Those things depreciate like rocks on their own!

[@realracer44]

You do save a lot of money on that mustang, but once it's a salvaged vehicle the value drops a hole lot.

[@lifeofant305]

Jose Aviles the car is going to lose value any way cars loss value the second they build it and start it up

[@Juliansamaa]

Hustlestreet Ant exactly. If it's going to be a daily driver and everything runs perfect, I could care less what the title is. Salvage/Rebuilt titles scare away people ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@tonebonebgky2]

I bought a moderately hail damaged car $1700 (7 year old car) never fixed it only normal maintaince, I drove it around for 5 years and put over 50k on it then my dad drove it back and forth to work for a year or 2, then we kept it as a backup car (which we did use a few more times when another car was down) finally it wound up sitting around too many years and it was still sold off for $500 what a great little (actually large) car it was, the few times I went somewhere with my parents (in my twenties still lived at home though) I was always grateful when they drove my car cause it was so much more comfy than their little car.

[@legohead6]

Ive discussed this concept in the past and it applies to all salvage vehicles. There are bigger margins on the higher end cars. Ive had so many people ask me about buying cheap beaters at insurance auctions. After explaining to them all the costs its quickly clear that its not worth it for lower end vehicles. Also, once you factor in resale value with a rebuilt title your likely going to lose on the Hyundai. I cant see someone paying 20+ for a rebuild when they can walk out of the dealership with a brand new one for only a few thousand more, have a warranty, and likely financing.

[@cryptsys]

did you also factor in how much people are getting these new cars for? that sonata SE may sticker for 23k but there was an offer for 4k off, 1k uber driver off, and 500 for military/college. so it was only worth truely 18k brand new.

[@Samcrac]

Will discuss in the follow up video!

[@FrancoCastro]

A friend of mine bought a car with hail damage at around 50% off at the dealership. Around 11k less than MSRP with clean title. He drove it 500 miles to the US-Mexican border and had it 95% fixed in a couple weeks for 1,200 USD. My suggestion if you live close to the border and have Mexican friends give it a try. Mechanics and body shops are very cheap in there.

[@ivanmart135]

My question is : can u register one car with hail damage without repairing it? Or you need to fix it first?

[@sabrinadancy5018]

About costs on rebuilding totals, dont forget cost to have state inspection after the rebuild. Fla also requires a "rebuilt" sticker installed by the inspecter. Also found that many insurance companies wont insure rebuilds. Always figure more then you think as there is always hidden damage that has to be addressed. One last thing, a "rebuilt" title devalues the resell value, so figure that in if rebuilding for resell. I recently finished a 1700 mile Honda Ridgeline for personal use and am very happy with it.

[@michaelcuff5780]

Thanks Sam! You are awesome!

[@DamnGoodReviews]

Was thinking going as cheap as possible.. fill the dents with bondo and wrap the car with vinyl. Or if nothing else is broken can you still insure and drive with all the dents?

[@WhittyPics]

I had 2 cars damaged by hail in 2011. One of the cars only had 6000 miles on it. It ended up being about $15,000 to fix both cars. The body shop did a good job with the paint but I could tell some evidence of repair on one and they broke some of the clips that hold some of the trim pieces taking them off on the other and they stuck the darn things back on with hot melt glue and double sided tape. I replaced one piece myself but when the keyless pad started coming loose I took it back to the body shop and the stuck it back on "with better double sided tape". I still have both cars as I can't afford to trade them and mechanically both are still in good shape. I think I would have been better off if a tree had fell on them and totaled them out than having them fixed by the insurance company. All the top surfaces were replaced on both cars and the tops (center section) were cut off and replaced. One car was a light blue and the other was a dark blue. Neither car is like they were before the hail damaged them. A couple of months after that happened one of my neighbors bought a hail damaged car of the same year and model as mine from a dealer. I feel like he got the shaft. He paid about $2000 less than I paid for my car when I bought it new and undamaged. I guess that dealer knocked a few thousand off the cars and sold them to the public and put the insurance money in their pocket.

[@LMacNeill]

That Mustang is definitely worth it. That's a huge discount. Yes, it'll have a 'rebuilt' title when you're done, and thus won't be worth as much as a 'regular' car of that age, with only 700+ miles on it, but it'll still be worth a lot more than what you paid. And if you keep the pictures of the hail damage before it was fixed, you'll be able to show to a potential buyer that he/she is buying a car that was not in a wreck, but only damaged by hail. I'd definitely pull the trigger on it, myself, if I had the money to invest in it.

[@makemehkamara3431]

Your explanation was accurate , I been wishing to buy a 2015 Lexus GS 350 f sport from corpart father back home in Africa.

[@rustykhan2919]

Been thinking about this for a year know. Just wondering how you feel about using bondo as a filler and wrapping it in vinyl. I know there are a few steps involved and it may not be as easy as it sounds. Just curious about your thoughts?

[@lknanml]

Fix the windows, duplicate the hail damage on the rest of the car, paint it white with a small Titleist logo on it and hit the ranges with a for sale sign.........

[@radbug]

add 3000 more dents to the white car on all panels and doors, and spray a Wilson logo on it, then parade it around as a "Golf Car" ;P

[@TheCitizenKane1]

I like this guy. He talks numbers.

[@nebikaratas1]

Your Chanel is going to blow up I can already tell

[@jdenha7078]

You were right

[@nebikaratas1]

@@jdenha7078 hahaha yes I was

[@worldhello1234]

@15:19 The Honday - almost like Honda but not quite like it - is a bad proposition, it is likely to depreciate much quicker and is less sought after. The Mustang on the other hand is a performance car and very popular among car enthusiast, which means it is likely to hold its value and you could get a good price for it.

[@GingerAleDude]

Correct me if I'm wrong but a vehicle with a salvage title depreciate the value by 25-50% over retail price. That said, the mustang, once fixed, could sell for $20-30k. So in your project budget, if you factor your time for the hassle of locating parts, taking it to the body shop, waiting, cost and trouble of having state inspection and documenting and filling out the paperwork. You did not save any money. If it's a personal vehicle you do end up with a "new" car below MSRP and know repairs are done right.

[@davidliu4314]

The bumps will improve your MPG by decreasing air resistance.

[@radbug]

i say, get the white one, put a few more dents in the sides, paint a Wilson logo on it, and call it your "Golf Car"

[@markg4459]

Great video. Esp good topic as I was in CO and they see lots of hail damage vehicles esp at the dealerships. Don't think I'd buy if I was hoping to flip but b/c I tend to drive a car until it is altogether unrepairable, the mustang would be tempting. Myself, I'd probably replace the hood, rear deck, glass and fix the worst of the roof via dentless...and just live with the rest of it.

[@pkuudsk9927]

4 options 1 buy new glass and drive it as is,no worries about door dings scratches ect and you have a reliable new car with a powertrain warranty. 2 buy a low mileage used car for less than fixing either car 30 % dep in a year you can find lots of cars cheap in new condition. 3 buy a 2-3 year old new car and haggle the price down ,lots full of new old cars if your not to picky about trim levels. You can save 30% of msrp.4 Buy it and do all the work yourself ,spend every night and weeked fixing a pos that wont sell for as much as a clean title car and waist your life away when you could be out driving.

[@junkcarreviews5390]

Hail damage is a very straightforward repair, not really much hidden. Low mileage new stuff is better, as less chance it was previously damage repaired. Good chance no airbags deployed. I like fixing them. Easier to sell. All around good deal.

[@philmarriner5300]

For the Mustang, agree with replacing hood and trunk but did think that filling the dents and vinyl wrapping the car maybe an alternative? Not sure if it would work out cheaper and may suit if your keeping the car instead of flipping it. Thinking gun metal grey for the wrap. 😎

[@Rossm812]

Wraps are short-term use... they last 2-3 years usually is all. A lot of people don't factor this in.

[@JC-11111]

I've fixed a hail damage Mustang that was paid by insurance. Almost every panel had dents including quarter panels and the area above the door, between the roof and door.

[@danawick9817]

If I were to keep them yes but if you were to resell them no. You would be above the rate for selling a salvage title or after all the inspections rebuild title. Where I'm at to put a salvage car out back on the road as a rebuilt. The inspection fee is 500.00 if it fails you need to fix what they want you to fix or they just say no to the repairs so you should add in roadworthyness costs and inspections plus your trying to get the salvage removed to either a rebuilt status or active.

[@REALshawtyred]

I had a 2008 Cadillac STS with really bad hail damage got the whole car repainted and dents removed for 2,400...State Farm gave me 4,500 ...thank god I had a good friend in the body industry

[@RM80AR]

You always come out with good videos. Thanks

[@JoseHernandez-pu5zh]

samcrac my dude for sure you're going to blow up, love the videos by the way keep up the good work👌

[@markdugan6231]

In November of 2014 I bought a brand new Ford C-max with light hail damage. The list price was $33,000 and it was on sale for $21,500 with a clean title after using the Z plan and rebate we brought it home for $16,000. with the extended warranty we plan on keeping it for six years and see no reason to repair it as the value should only be about a thousand dollars less than a car with the same options. Do you have a opinion on this train of thought?

[@racerboy2212]

IF you were keeping the cars AND you were planning on driving them yourself for the life of the car, then, YES, they’re a good deal. However, if your goal is to flip them, the value is 100%gone as any car with a Salvage-Restored Title is only worth about 60-65% of a Clean Title Car. I’m all for the first scenario.

[@radbug]

this isnt true in private sales. If you have the paperwork to show that you restored a Hail damaged car and that it was salvaged for hail damage and NOT a collision, then private buyers are understanding of the value. IF you dont keep the documentation though, yes the salvaged title will kill your sale value.

[@joelsanchez7199]

hello, I bought a car in copart and the insurance put it as a hail saver, the question is, do I need a specialist oh can I make it my own arrangements? There are quite a few damages. I want to know before filling out the application in the DMV in New York. Thank you

[@12skits63]

4K subs congrats!!

[@josealvarado4923]

Hey Samrac, as a behalf of your subscribers we would really appreciate if you make a video on tips about buying an auction car and what requirements do you need to buy and such more. Loving the videos by the way!

[@Samcrac]

+jose alvarado will do thanks Jose

[@Dudemieser]

Over the years I have seen some really bad hail damage "repairs" But I have also watched some friends do them right and make a ton of money.

[@JoshuaaaT]

You have very good content. Keep up the great work and your channel will be flooded with new subscribers in no time!

[@jenseninterceptors]

Would there be need for an inspection as well? If so how much does that cost? I'd say nada on the Hyundai but hell yes for that Mustang

[@MexacayzieBum]

I’m so glad I’m a body repair man.

[@anomamos9095]

If you're doing a body swap or heavy mod ricer type rebuild they can be worth it. Also there are hot glue dent removal kits where you can do most of the work yourself

[@kickit59]

Great information Sam! If you are going to drive the car and keep it I do think a hail damaged car gives you more peace of mind!

[@IbleedRednGold99]

Would it be better/cheaper to have the dents buffed out and then wrap the car ? Or would that now work because of potential paint chipping ?

[@BoogieDownProduction]

Hail damage cars blow. I much rather replace the airbags and do some mechanical work then pay someone for minimal paint work.

[@rcawesome4123]

What happens to the biohazard cars the ones someone died in? Are those marked? Do you have to look?

[@67cougar5oh]

Rc Awesome was also wondering the same thing

[@Samcrac]

Will do a video on them! They are generally marked.

[@jimmygrant3212]

Rc Awesome anything can make it a biohazard even a small spec of blood from say a bloody nose.

[@honchoryanc]

No history car is fixed and resold. Biohazards don't usually total new cars and legally don't have to be documented.

[@rcawesome4123]

Samcrac I knew a guy that had a cadi bought it in cash brand new it was stolen the same day when they found it the guys that stole it died in it they tried making shake and bake meth(glass bottle that you shake) it exploded killed the guy making it and part of the glass went into the drivers jugular and blood was sprayed everywhere sad thing was it only had 224 miles on it and it sat in the sun for months can't imagine how it smelled(in Arizona)

[@zippythechicken]

thumbs up for the chicken... I think hail damage can be an easy fix.. I might even put the aftermarket hood on it if it looked nice.. put some stripes across the hood roof trunk and the paint is going to be more explainable .. only thing i don't like is the salvage title it always means that any book value for the car from that point on means its always going to come in at the lowest possible NADA value for the car.. you might get someone who doesn't care but a clean title for an expensive car vs a $500 beater pickup with a salvage that you expect to keep for a year is a big difference... in my opinion anyway. and I would also like to hear about how the end buyer may have problems getting the insurance company to cover the car at any reasonable value or how they deal with that.. personally I have never rebuilt an actual salvage title car but I have rebuilt a number of cars that were in accidents with clean titles.

[@MrDylanMitchell]

Any reason a hail damaged car wouldn't make a great build for a race or rally car? Especially a WRX or STI with hail damage to beat up off road. Add some lexan or polycarbonate windows some rally lights skid ates and have a bunch of fun.

[@gtaliano]

I would buy the Hyundai and use as it is, It's 100% usable that way. Maybe after using it , I would repair hail and normal usage damage to sell it better.

[@Griffeyjrgolden]

The problem is salvage, some vehicles can't be rebuilt if I'm correct? Also, people tend not to buy salvage or rebuilt, correct??

[@jakerosko7589]

I am looking at a 2013 hail damaged Dodge Dart limited for 6,500. I could probably negotiate it down to 6k. I would definitely replace the hood and trunk, but I don't know if it would be worth it to repair the roof, since it isn't as bad (about half of the damage of the mustang in your video). I don't want to spend more than 7,500. What are the chances I can find a hood and trunk at a salvage lot and do you think my goal is reasonable? Thanks

[@Juliansamaa]

jake r you can probably negotiate for a lower price-maybe 5k. As for parts, Dodges are plentiful in the yards around my area, even newer models so I'm sure that you can get yourself a fairly good deal. Always check Facebook marketplace and Craigslist, too. In my opinion, you can sometimes come out with better deals this way. Good luck !

[@juanpablodelgadoguirola3758]

Totally worth for the Mustang fix the windscreen and maybe replace the panels use it as a daily without worrying about someone scratching it

[@1000crazypeople]

Love watching your videos, very informative!

[@phive9]

I'd honestly stay away. Maybe I'm just a bit too sensitive to customer rebuttals of salvage titles but I've noticed that people really have a disdain for them here (DFW area, Texas). I don't think the Sonata is worth it, at all. The Mustang is would make a great deal for someone that doesn't mind a salvage title, IMO. On a side note, what sites do you recommend for finding specific car part numbers/item numbers for body parts of specific cars? For example, I have a 2006 Volvo that is missing the aluminum molding on the driver side door, going across the door frame at about knee/thigh level. I refer to it as door molding/bump guard but I would really like to have a part number to search online. Any help is appreciated. Speaking of which....As someone that's very new to this (only sold 2 so far), I greatly appreciate your videos! Your insight is truly great and I'm sure I'm not the only one that thinks you're doing a great job. Keep it up!

[@Samcrac]

When you are looking for something REALLY specific, look for a generic part off the same car on car-part.com, then call the salvage yard and see if they still have the car. Go down there and look at the car and chances are they will have your hard to get part.

[@dj4monie]

Why is everything about flipping? Buy something you want, keep it and if you have trouble selling it discount it below whatever the current value is, somebody will take a chance and buy it anyway.

[@stwhite5135]

Rockauto

[@nickelliot4301]

It's important that people know salvage cars, even if "perfectly" repaired, will never be worth remotely the same as a car with no accident history. 90% of potential private party buyers will run the other way when they find a car with a branded title. Most dealerships won't accept them as a trade-in (other than scrap value), and insurance companies will not offer full coverage policies- liability only. Finally, banks do not offer auto loans on such vehicles- your potential buyer will need to pay cash or get a personal loan at a higher APR. Knowing all this, I personally would find it hard to justify having more than half the wholesale or trade-in value invested in the car and repairs. Which means I'd want to pay no more than 1/4 to 1/3 of trade-in value at auction. Finally, if my intention was to flip cars, I'd avoid them altogether and focus instead on privately owned vehicles with mechanical problems- transmission, clutch, brakes, etc. Those are the cars you can often pick up for a fraction of book value with no accident history, clean title, and terrific cosmetics. With the high price of auto labor rates, learning how to do it yourself can pocket real savings with no hassles. As an aside, if the car I'm buying with a bad clutch or blown tranny has a clear title, my bank doesn't care- they will still loan money on it at full book value. Recently, I was looking at a BMW motorcycle where the seller just needed to get rid of it and was selling for below book. My bank offered to loan me over two thousand ABOVE my purchase price because it was so cheap. So the deals are out there, you just need to know them when you see them. As much fun as it is to watch mangled salvage cars become "perfect" again, for most of us, it's probably better to avoid that particular reality show with our own time and money.

[@rolandwilliams1228]

Sonata not worth it, way to close to a brand new one. The Mustang even though it looks worse is the one to get.

[@hootsmccoy1450]

Would say no to both. Salvage title depreciates car resale value and mustang has unknown water damage/electrical issues.

[@iRecordOS]

i did a flood damage 2008 audi a8l. New passenger front air strut, battery, few modules, fuel pump, good to go. Saved 10 grand

[@boomstick12gnl]

Would you recommend an old police crown vic, or something of that nature (ex-police tahoe, explorer) at auction?

[@Samcrac]

If that is what you're interested in sure.

[@PavanChukkapalli]

Great videos. Subscribed. Was always curious on these types of cars that show up. The breakdown and ballpark estimates will make me stop thinking of making impulse buys. Another qtn: can these salvage title cars be driven on a track - assuming all the parts are intact?

[@shekharmoona544]

I'm wondering about hail damage between galvanized steel or aluminum make a difference.

[@RatusMax]

I was eyeing a cheverolet volt great condition somewhere in texas 6.5k (in cali they are like 4.5k because they are in abundance there)... Then the storms came through...the next day the post was gone.... It got hailed on.....Not sure how bad lol.

[@gordonhenrichs]

love the videos!

[@johnhull6363]

I got so lucky last hail storm heard warning on radio and just as Started was one block from a quarter car wash and pulled into a bay until over was baseballs...

[@4pimp4]

Insurance is significantly higher on salvage title cars. That definitely factors in, especially on the mustang.

[@daresk1]

Great videos keep them up!

[@MrA8888888888888888]

Great advice! Stick with common makes and models. Stick with low mileage vehicles. Only buy one to keep for yourself. They can be good deals, if that was a vehicle you wanted. Reselling cars from salvage is tough work. VINs associated with a salvage history can only get 70% of the ‘market value’ for a comparable non salvage history car when trying to resell. Many manufactures won’t back vehicle warranty for vehicles on a salvage listing. Insurance for vehicles (even once fully repaired) can command higher premiums, some insurers won’t cover them at all. No matter how pretty you can make a vehicle that has come from the Co-part grave yard, they are never as good and you will almost never make money on them (once you factor in $ for your own time and effort). There is not one KZbin channel on here that can honestly claim to buying salvage and turning it back into gold for a profit.

[@bondovwvw]

The Hyundai isn't worth bothering with with the salvage title most of the people that would want it might really trip out on the salvage title.. The Mustang would appeal more to kids that would not care about the salvage title and more willing to buy it. I don't think either of the cars are worth buying to flip. The Mustang would be good for somebody that wants a Mustang and does body and paint themselves or owns a shop and is going to keep it for themselves.