Libertarian Wants Freedom to Buy Any Lightbulb, Have Slaves

This Libertarian call is regarded as possibly one of the most incredible Libertarian calls in Majority Report history. Chad from Alabama called in to defend his Libertarianism against Sam Seder. Among the things he fought for: the freedom to purchase any lightbulb he pleases, little to no EPA regulation, and the freedom for a state to allow slavery...
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[@jarhead9853]

First they came for the 75 watt incandescent light bulbs, and I said nothing, for I was not a 75 watt incandescent light bulb.

[@adwin7]

You win!

[@RHOgu4]

I️ laughed so hard. Omg lmao

[@TheSethcast]

This joke is timeless

[@bofadeez5482]

DEAD.

[@Barrybeastmode]

Then they came for the cars, and I said nothing, for I was a Prius.

[@sklorbit]

I like how slavery is negotiable but driving Prius...

[@theguywhoasked3435]

sklorbit 😂😂😂😂😂😂 crying

[@pete_lind]

Think that i have no freedom to go and take a dump on Tom Cruises head what a silly regulation is that ? If he wants a 100 W light bulb but they dont sell bigger than 25 W then connect 4 of those together ... stop that whining crybaby . Also if he wants to give money to power and oil companies then why dont he do it ? Nothing prevents you to send Exxon 10 000 dollars every month if you want to . They are anarchist noting else ... there should be no rules and regulations at all everyone should go round shooting each other in head when thats liberty ... NO THAT CHAOS !

[@pano3607]

Yeah! THAT idea he just can’t abide! I like how his paranoid fantasy about the government only allowing one type of car or lightbulb ignores the fact that America is a rampantly capitalist country!

[@roberthillman2436]

The Amish ride horse and buggy on highways

[@craigwagner9698]

Robert Hillman Do they ride their horse and buggy to Home Depot to buy incandescent bulbs?

[@blekcer]

the freedom to enslave -- libertarianism in a nutshell.

[@kezkezooie8595]

Their lack of self awareness and slender grip on reality is breathtaking, isn't it?

[@parkerc9816]

Its great because then they'll turn around and say that you own your property and your body is your own property so slavery isn't ok

[@karlawade3346]

Truer words were never spoken, my friend.

[@frelonvert6064]

Thanks to the Southern Strategy, these hillfolk already have been enslaved.

[@MrZiglander]

enslave -- libertarianism

[@patrickmcgovern1137]

"I don't personally believe in slavery, but..." Bold position, brave stance

[@SpoopySquid]

Plot twist: he totally own slaves if he could

[@averywealthyman4194]

@@SpoopySquid who wouldn’t?

[@cloudyyybear]

@@averywealthyman4194 pls tell me this is a troll

[@Yausbro]

if your a moron i guess

[@itsbeebaby]

@@cloudyyybear it is. A bad one

[@Commenter5651]

Forcing me to have a better lightbulb is ridiculous. Slavery is cool tho - Libertarian

[@SeanLaMontagne]

"I'm from Alabama, but I don't believe any state would make slavery legal by vote" *Lives in a state that had slavery and a majority of voters in favor at the time*

[@n3tl4g]

Clearly this guy cut History class a lot.

[@cogen651]

Lisa Greenstein Why does he need a history class? He can read it on his own.

[@ChrisDutch]

Actually he was probably locked out of the classroom a lot of times by the teacher.

[@empire918]

I'm sure this is what was taught in his history classes.

[@palesafloret3707]

He did say he's young so he has time. LOL, I think that's what it is too. So many ex Libertarians have said they got in as teens are young adults. As for a history class most def or at least reading. He needs U. S. Gov as well. And not the crap coming out of high schools. What he's talking about are the articles. The constitution we have now is the answer to the crap that went down with the failure of Articles of Confederation. I didn't learn this until I took U. S. Gov in college. K-12 need to be better about teaching the U. S and state government. He'd be surprised to find many of the founders believed in the feds influence

[@Bisquick]

Are you gonna limit his freedom and force him to learn history?

[@IcarusLime]

“Slavery is never gonna happen.” Uh, history much fella?

[@lookbovine]

Never gonna happen here? It currently happens worldwide.

[@weirdo82]

​@@lookbovine Miss the 13th amendment, I see?

[@Adam-je2xs]

It never ceases to amaze me how in the space of 14 minutes the caller goes from defending the right to own a 10 watt lightbulb... to the right to owning other people.

[@nosuchthing8]

Where do these people come from?

[@rsr789]

@@nosuchthing8 Amerikkka.

[@Ozzie_Mandias]

All over the world... the evils of men.

[@bonchbonch]

I love how often libertarian callers say things like "Are you serious?!" and "Seriously?!" They're so unused to having their views challenged that they think it's all just so self-evident and obvious.

[@Michaelbenoit7]

Those are new libertarians who have not learned to expose the fallacies of tyranny.

[@bonchbonch]

Michaelbenoit7 If they could do that, they wouldn't be libertarians.

[@Michaelbenoit7]

bonchbonch libertarianism is the opposite of tyranny.

[@bonchbonch]

Michaelbenoit7 Libertarianism is the fermentation of plutocratic tyrannies.

[@Michaelbenoit7]

bonchbonch so you conceive that Jeffersonian liberty for all is a plutocracy?

[@TBTabby]

When you permit a state to keep slaves because of "state's rights," you are declaring that you think the rights of the slaveowners to keep slaves is more important than the rights of the slaves to go free. It doesn't matter whether you side with the slaves or the slaveowners, you're restricting someone's freedom. The difference is, I'm restricitng freedom in a way that grants freedom to oppressed people. You're restricting freedom in a way that aids the oppressors.

[@noooreally]

What about animal agriculture? The freedom of sentient life?

[@lonniedobbins778]

TB Tabby I really think these people have severe mental problems. He's like so many other of them that cry about some freedom to do something stupid or think they lost the freedom to do something like buying 75 watts incandescent lightbulbs like he lied here. I remember one of the person that helped spread that lie if not the creator. Alex Jones was telling people that lie. I see incandescent bulbs everywhere on sale today. The compact fluorescent doesn't work well in all conditions. So the incandescent is STILL USED in those applications. They make these complaints of losing freedom as they desire to deny freedom to another race of people. So how can he and those like him complain of freedom as they want to eliminate the freedoms of others? They see no problems of slavery being something they want back into the country. STUPID! Why would a corporation hire anyone if they have slaves? No employment opportunities and also no social safety nets creates large numbers of homeless, starving, dying in the streets, reject whites that have no jobs, money, homes, future. So much for that white genetically intelligence!

[@MNL54321]

@@noooreally do you believe cows and human being are equals?

[@moonillusions832]

@@MNL54321 No. Humans have a moral agency where they can and should limit animal suffering since they’re lesser than us.

[@MNL54321]

@@moonillusions832 I agree with that. But do you believe then that human beings should also try and limit the amount of suffering that can be experienced by other human beings because we should all be treated equal? In other words, laws that make slavery illegal are more important to stop people from potentially suffering from being a slave than allowing people more "freedom" but in that pursuit potentially opening up the possibility of slavery being legal?

[@geneobrien8907]

Doesn't know anything about Climate Change but has an opinion about it! Interesting.

[@knection1986]

Took the words right out of my mouth

[@kenbob1071]

He says you don't have the right to harm someone else, but thinks it's okay to destroy the planet and enslave people... nice.

[@drewsutton1888]

To many people abroad, having an ironclad opinion in spite of a lack of knowledge is the essence of being American. Many Americans don't know that, or care, because they seldom leave their state, let alone the country, and don't value anything that exists or was invented outside their borders. To be fair, this view is UNFAIR and undeserved. The reputation of the whole is unfairly dictated by the very loud minority and their ubiquitous representation in media.

[@studyzen8836]

You just summed up America.

[@geneobrien8907]

@@alexandruthegreat199 You don't know anything about me Pee Wee!

[@sublime3784]

Caller: We shouldn’t be paying people money they don’t earn. Sam: Your state takes in more than it earns. Caller: Good.

[@contraindicated]

Ha ha. Funniest part

[@DumbAsh00]

We shouldn't be paying people more than they earn..... But, we should be paying them what they do earn. The current wage system is exploitation. Like really think about it, a fast food crew brings in $60k a week, yet they only get like $400 of it....

[@Seattle-2017]

Libertarian: "Yeah, well in THAT case, being a moocher is fine, because it benefits ME!"

[@bpdmf2798]

@bunny I read recently that if money were spread evenly instead of hoarded, every man woman and baby would be earning over $100k a year. Just image what it would be if you didn't include retired people and literal babies. The average I've would be more like $150k instead of $50k.

[@icanhasfreecat]

This is what pisses me off about libertarians, believing the curves of supply and demand are all you need to justify anything, and anything beyond that is intervention.

[@lextacy2008]

all while failing to understand the other economic principal called EXTERNALITIES

[@sh0werp0wer]

All you need is this brilliant formula from Dave Rubin's school of economics: Free market + competition kicks in = every world problem solved.

[@AnimalFarmDance]

@@sh0werp0wer hHhhaha

[@devforfun5618]

@@lextacy2008 it is economics 101, are you saying there are other lessons in economics ?

[@lextacy2008]

@@devforfun5618 That topic is only briefly covered in 101. Take a look at the 301,302 and 303 level courses that dig much deeper.

[@pdoylemi]

When they came for the light bulbs, I said nothing, because I was not a light bulb. When they came for toxic waste dumps, I said nothing, because I was not a toxic waste dump. Then they came for my freedom... oh wait - no they didn't.

[@Nethr]

+Pat Doyle Oh god! Not the toxic waste dumps!

[@presidentnixonsanus]

+Pat Doyle You can have my Toaster Strudel when you pry it from my COLD DEAD HANDS!!

[@pdoylemi]

Jeez S. Christ I ATE your toaster strudel! HAHAHAHAHA!

[@presidentnixonsanus]

Pat Doyle I think I should be free to purchase lead-based paint, if I want to. Sure there have been advances in paint technology, but I think if I want the old stuff I should be free to buy it. It's in our basic freedoms, in one of them amendment thingies. I should know, cos' i study the constitution. Which means when you argue against me I just say, "you need to read your constitution!" and then I win the argument because that is the sum of my argument.

[@pdoylemi]

Jeez S. Christ No, you should not be free to buy that paint because it poisons the environment. While we tend to think of the stories of kids being poisoned by eating lead paint chips, over time, lead from the paint also leeches into ground water. When you get your own planet, feel free to do anything you like. Meanwhile, we all have to share this one - which means there are limits on your freedom.

[@fl00fydragon]

holy shit this man is insane he wants to negotiate human rights

[@jean-lucpicard5510]

Just not his. what a shocker.

[@simplicitylost]

@@jean-lucpicard5510 Actually he said if the people of Alabama voted to round up all the Libertarians in the state and lock ’em up that he wouldn’t like it (obviously since he is one) but due to his ideology he’d have to support it. I guess you gotta admire his commitment. He said he’d just leave the state, but like Sam said, who’s to say they’d let you? I’d assume if South Carolina votes to enslave people again then people would be trying to move out of there too. He basically just fell back on “well, people wouldn’t _actually_ vote that way nowadays,” but he’s totally behind it in principle. If Utah votes to castrate all white men, it’s completely legit in his book.

[@epictube51]

Even from an extremely selfish pov, libertarians are too moronic to see that they'd just be even bigger slaves and more disenfranchised in their own desired hellscape.

[@KitchenerLeslie2]

As an electrician I can tell you I’ve seen wiring destroyed by 75 watt plus light bulbs.

[@colindooley4422]

This firefighter agrees

[@jeffc5974]

Faulty wiring is not the lightbulb's fault. But the bulbs themselves get dangerously hot.

[@jasongutekunst]

"Our forefathers DIED so we could ride in horse and buggy on the highway..."- awesome.

[@joeyg8971]

First they came for my light bulbs, and I said nothing. then they came for my ecoli, and I said nothing...

[@ImNotaRussianBot]

Now they telling me I can't have slaves?!

[@dudemcdude3917]

@J Austin nooooooooooo. He's my only friend.

[@fl00fydragon]

dear libertarians if the problem is millionaires leaving from a country because they dislike the taxes there's a term for that : TAX EVASION THE SOLUTION IS TO TREAT THEM LIKE EVERYONE ELSE , seise their assets and arrest him for tax evasion BECAUSE IT'S A CRIME

[@willia3r]

@Mister Guy They will have to give up their U.S. citizenship though

[@voluntarism335]

tax is theft you moron

[@ChewyThomson]

@Mister Guy Good, let them move elsewhere, seize all their shit and ban them from ever doing business with the US ever again. Problem solved.

[@perryjohnson6461]

That’s actually tax avoidance and not illegal

[@rsr789]

Nothing says 'patriot' like not contributing to society... which is paid with taxes.

[@gspendlove]

I remember this cartoon from when I was young. This kid dreams he's magically transported to a place called Yesland, a world where he can have anything he wants for free and do anything he wants. The kid is thrilled, walking around with all the candy he can eat and throwing rocks through people's windows. Then a bigger kid walks up to him and punches him right in the face. He cries and says, "Why'd you do that?!" The bigger kid says, "Because I felt like it! This is Yesland! I can do whatever I want!" And when the little kid wakes up, he realizes he's learned a valuable lesson. I wish we could put these libertarians into the world they wish they could inhabit, for just a year or so. Let their neighbor and all the local businesses enjoy the same total freedom they do and see if they'd be happy about it as shit is getting dumped on their lawn. I guarantee you that when they came back they'd say we goddam well need rules and regs for everybody, and people ought to pay taxes. Or maybe they're so thick they wouldn't learn a thing. Assholes.

[@matthewheywood8532]

But in these idiots magical world they would be the big kid they can’t imagine being the bullied kid

[@mercedeswalt6621]

Wow, very nice!

[@badman477]

Every libertarian basically: “I wanna smoke weed and not pay taxes”

[@thoughtful1233]

Not this one. He wants Marijuana to be a state's rights issue.

[@poltronafrau]

Guess I’m a libertarian

[@tristanheaton2127]

@@poltronafrau bro online foot print

[@brennanb3919]

Yes

[@monotech20.14]

And get laid.

[@oxbigg2]

"Are you serious!?" I love how completely unearned the callers confidence is. Dunning Kruger effect.

[@elftax]

Why is this libertarian calling via a phone, the phone companies are regulated by the govt

[@ultru3525]

Because at least telephony was invented privately. Using the Internet and World Wide Web would be worse because they were invented in public institutions.

[@patrickmcgovern1137]

REAL libertarians only communicate by two tin cans attached by string

[@elftax]

ultru telephone might have been invented privately but like all utilities it needs a functioning govt to see the bigger picture and force private citizens to hand over land for telephone poles and allow cables to pass over their land.

[@kenbob1071]

They took away our freedom when they got rid of the Pony Express.

[@SammyBooy2814]

Patrick McGovern real libertarians use carrier pigeons with the little scraps of paper.

[@FormerHumanX]

I like how the caller throws around the term "outlawed" as if having an old lightbulb will land you in prison.

[@johngleason1776]

Seeing Sam resist the urge to laugh when libertarians say something absurd will always make my day

[@SirAmicVarze]

This guy needs to go away to Somalia if he wants small government so badly. They have a lot of "freedom" over there.

[@Vezmus1337]

Caller: "We have some freedumbs" Sam: "We do have some free dumbs." Hahahahahah

[@ElaineLoyd]

I've listened to enough of these calls and understand libertarians perfectly. They just don't understand the world as a whole. They aren't unable to see the big picture, they don't know a bigger picture exist.

[@wvu05]

"I have a problem with all the amendments that they're adding." Judging by his earlier remarks, it sounds like he really has a problem with number 13.

[@angryretailbanker5103]

Caller: "A libertarian believes you should be free to do as you please as long as you are not harming others and their property." Also caller: "Yeah, if a state wants to, it should be able to institute slavery without the federal government stepping in."

[@andrew_owens7680]

Can a libertarian create a freedom that causes his own destruction?

[@patrickmcgovern1137]

Give them time, Mr. Thiel is hard at work.

[@CIARUNSITE]

No because they always go running to the government in the end. Ayn Rand died on welfare.

[@drewsutton1888]

Yes! The freedom to smoke while welding. A before O? You can't tell me what to do! Or while working on repairing a natural gas leak.

[@miskatonic_alumni]

They can, and they have. Look up the free town project in Grafton, New Hampshire.

[@smaakjeks]

Sam: Is it okay if one state has slavery, and another state doesn't? There is only one right answer to this, and it's not "Well, see, I personally don't support slavery"

[@duce7999]

Holy crap, just realized that this caller is "James from the South"

[@IanStewartDFTBA]

Spot on! He even sneaks a cheeky little reference to this call about half way through that one about "some caller talking about lightbulbs" that he had heard and agreed with! Also, hello from the future! I hope you're doing well in these trying times, friend!

[@infiniteflame2374]

How dare you push a more efficient energy saving lightbulb on me! I want the freedom to buy inferior products!

[@Seattle-2017]

Bring back the aspirin bottles without those safety seals! Having to spend 10 seconds to remove those seals is infringing on my freedom to consume aspirin that might be laced!

[@MsOdale7]

All about personal liberty until it comes to slavery

[@52flyingbicycles]

Because they only envision liberty as an extension of private property. Because “you can have liberty but only over stuff you own” is a mighty convenient position for people who own stuff

[@Arnordor36]

i love the people laughing in the background

[@the_REAL_Pearl_]

That's my favorite part of just about any of his libertarian caller videos.

[@VariantNode]

They make every punchline worth it.

[@jeffc5974]

Not a single person in the entire country pays 40% income tax to the federal government.

[@skynyrdjesus]

The honest, genuine laughter of Michael Brooks in the background of these old videos is amazing. It takes me out of the moment in the most wholesome way, and it makes going through the archives doubly worth it

[@AnthonyChinaski]

✌️🥲

[@Chipskater-cy7wb]

I'm

[@tugsmccowan8192]

The caller is a member of the Dunning - Kruger club and doesn't know it.

[@davidm1926]

It's a great club, a tremendous club. You just don't realize it cuz you're a dum-dum.

[@frithbrophy8252]

He can't be a member of a club he is to stupid to know who Dunning Kruger are

[@Kalumbatsch]

First rule of Dunning-Kruger Club: You don't know that you're in the Dunning-Kruger Club.

[@TacoKicker]

“The South has a certain kind of ignorance that is deeper and truer, more unwavering and steadfast, than the rest of the country has.” - David Cross

[@pdoylemi]

Should they be protecting your property from mercury emissions produced by power plants? How about protecting it from pollution of the air and water on the property? This guy is so much like so many libertarians I know - he likes all the advantages of a cooperative society, but gets annoyed when that puts a burden on him.

[@T_____1660]

What about 69W lightbulbs? We don't have freedom until we have 69W lightbulbs!

[@johnsinclair4780]

Taylor Tough lol

[@SpoopySquid]

Nice

[@dennistheangrychimp]

Damn. Perfect.

[@devourerofbabies]

I haven't listened to this in a long time, but gosh darn it, is it ever good. It sounds like one of those fake call in shows in GTA.

[@ashtonreason3444]

hell yeah WKTT. WE KNOW THE TRUTH!

[@TheCarterEffect]

the GTA V talk radio isn't as good as in the other games.

[@AnimalFarmDance]

haha it does sound like that

[@BaronVonQuiply]

@@TheCarterEffect You can always add these calls into a custom radio station

[@PaulTheSkeptic]

This guy is quite the prolific scientist. Not only does he have extensive research into the effect of incandescent light bulbs on the carbon footprint but he's also a climate scientist with extensive research into the effect of human presence on the earth's climate. Wow, I knew this guy was deluded but Jesus Christ, slavery? That's how far he would go with this?

[@moctopusmoctopus8791]

every caller into this show sounds exactly the same. Almost every time I think it's a return appearance.

[@dr.scrapjack2045]

This one I think is an actual return appearence. In one of these clips (it was about global warming I think) the caller sounds exactly like this guy, and also explicitly references this call (the point about slavery in particular), while pretending to be a different person. Either they are both the same person, or this is just an incredible coincidence.

[@PR--un4ub]

@@dr.scrapjack2045 "Pull yourself up by your jetpacks" - Libertarian philosophy.

[@2sthimo449]

I love Sams face at 13:19 when he realizes the guy will start debating the slavery point

[@funglegunk]

18:00 - Libertarians believe that you should be free to do as you please as long as you are not harming someone else or their property. Earlier... 13:32 - Yes, if the voters want it, it should be OK to own slaves. 🤷‍♂️

[@kenbob1071]

Thought the same thing. Also he's okay with Mercury poisoning and the planet getting destroyed by Climate Change as long as he can keep his inefficient lightbulbs... FREEDOM!

[@jamestownsassacre9211]

"i believe states should be able to have slavery" "In my state - Alabama" Yeah that tracks 😂

[@Quantris]

He thinks everything is a grey area because his light bulbs are too dim

[@joshgray1846]

“Regulating what lightbulbs I can have is a direct infringement on my liberty, but I fully support a state’s right to have slaves.” - Libertarians

[@robinsss]

the idea that a state has a right to legalize slavery IS NOT part of the libertarian philosophy what so ever ………..…………………………………………………………………………………………..and if the caller thinks that it is part of libertarianism he is confused

[@Noooiiiissseee]

@@robinsss Every single Libertarian on this show says that what other Libertarians say isn't real Libertarianism. It's a meme at this point. The fact is the ideology is moronic.

[@OKnotOK09]

Caller: "I hate those moochers that have 14 kids and live on welfare!" Sam: "Alabama is the highest mooching state in terms of federal funding." Caller: "Well good, we should all mooch as much as possible."

[@realnewfiepie]

Literally died when he said a state should be able to have slavery.

[@theguywhoasked3435]

Dude spent half an hour thinking about what he'll say to Sam while waiting on the phone and all he could come up with was light bulb. 😂😂

[@gracewv]

I bet this guy gets Social Security or Medicaid.

[@joeisawesome540]

nah dude.. if he had medicaid he wouldn't be suffering from this level of brain damage

[@aichpvee]

@@joeisawesome540 Exactly. Medicaid is awesome if you can get it.

[@gotanygrapes831]

“I’m still young and I don’t know everything…” the fact that this guy thinks older people know everything is childish. Bless his heart ♥️

[@QuantumTelephone]

7 years later and this was still the most coherent libertarian

[@firstlast9916]

Meanwhile LED lighting is the most unreliable lighting ever. We replace LED lighting at twice the rate of incandescent. Great policy government morons. You increased global warming while putting incandescent filament producers out of business. Drrrrrr

[@jarrettburch2477]

This sounds like the same guy that called over global warming.

[@BmoreIrish]

4 years later and we more have more choices of light bulbs than can then. This dude is off the reservation.

[@Junebug89]

I love the way he can't help but suppress a smile at the start when the caller says why do you not want liberty.

[@HotPocketsBoy]

Jesus. Sam ran circles around this guy. He was having fun with this one

[@JAMAICADOCK]

'What the Americans call freedom is just exposure to chance'. Karl Marx

[@undeadwill5912]

You mean the man who never worked a day in his life and lived off his wealthy family and friends and later book sales and had no understanding of political science, human nature, or economics? Leading to the conclusion that his theories were akin to a fantasy, anywhere they were practiced they lead to either a short bloody end as they failed or were held together by the gun of a tyrannical genocidal rule.

[@JAMAICADOCK]

Undead Will Suppose endless fear of war, pandemics, terrorism, mass migrations, global warming, money panics is just fine and dandy. Marx saw capital in the raw, real capital - which you might get to see sooner than you think. When it happens you will think N Korea is a perfect paradise. You've been in a Gilded Cage - real capital is on its way back

[@undeadwill5912]

You at beating a dead horse. There is no nation left of earth that is capitalist with maybe in a limited sense of Hong Kong but little else. What you have described is the death of liberty. Marx saw nothing but the surface and had no means to understand the inner workings. He looked down on the "working class scum" like the rest of his wealthy peers with pity and no understanding of labor or economics as well when you analyze his solution ignored the the center of all economic thought "How to deal with scarcity?" He never answers this central question.

[@JAMAICADOCK]

Undead Will No its called the collapse of capital. It keeps on happening. You just live in the bourgeois half of the world where these collapses don't really bite due to welfare and bail-outs. However, if you was a Bangladeshi textile worker you might have a different opinion. Its all about class interest at the end of the day. Do I expect communism to take off in the West? Of course not. The revolution isn't gonna start on the Golf Course.

[@undeadwill5912]

Are you so ignorant to not understand economics? I mean I am in shock do you not understand economics in the slightest? It is really baffling to me that you can be this willfully ignorant and stupid. Its as if economics is a moral question rather than a reality. A capital collapse can't be solved with a bailout if the capital collapses as it causes runs on the banks. This ignoring that any nation that has bail outs and welfare is not capitalist. No I'm just a ranch hand. A job with the world's highest mortality rate even when compared to soldiers. Fuck off you homophobic, racist, genocidal communist. Communism has only lead to one conclusion and that is a brutal dictatorship as the system has to be set up in such a manner to allow communism to exist.

[@nosuchthing8]

Amusing that the dimmest bulbs require the brightest illumination

[@Kisarez]

"The government only takes and never backtracks" my man, that's a bold statement during decades of privatization

[@Dambro2011]

Having had a libertarian phase for about a year, I can safely say that what the caller is talking about isn't even a libertarian regime; it's obvious as soon as he mentioned slavery being a matter of voting. I may not like the libertarian ideology anymore, but they realize that slavery, the forceful infringing upon of someone's rights into servitude, is NOT something that should be on the voting table. I mean, how do you even rationalize legalized slavery as an increased amount of freedom in general?? The libertarians I've talked to don't even like the idea of democracy, of allowing people to vote on issues, because they see it as two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner. To a certain extent, they're right; we need protections for people when it comes to their basic rights so they can't be voted away, obviously including personhood, beliefs, things of that ilk (me now being a leftist I'd take it a step further and say things like a right to education and healthcare are things people should have, but I suppose that's a "negative rights versus positive rights" debate where we'd get into responsibility to community or responsibility only to self, so I won't delve) (Though if libertarians do want to debate me on why a responsibility to community would inevitably have to include government, I'll level with you that it shouldn't NECESSARILY have to; I'm open to arguments favoring minarchism or anarchism, but there needs to be a heavy, HEAVY emphasis on voluntary organization and community in the culture, so that societal problems could be taken care of. But most libertarians I talk to go beyond just a hands-off approach from government - they usually flat-out think pure individualism and "everyone to their own business" is the way to go; they don't even talk of changing the culture, the attitudes, organizing to deal with problems on a large scale, etc. To be fair, that's USUALLY, but it's still far more than half the time.)

[@MsEditrix]

Michael's continuous cackle makes me so happy.

[@janeryan2709]

Miss him so much…

[@gillieography]

I miss that so much. One of the best things about these old clips for sure. That and Sam demolishing libertarians.

[@RigbyMadewell]

I love that he said he doesn't know everything but still made a point to disagree the overt majority or scientists

[@IcarusLime]

The irony is that Libertarians ultimately fight for the freedom of corporations to limit the freedoms of individual Libertarians.

[@kaylathompson4423]

its hard to win a debate when ur arguing on the side of lunacy

[@DylanRoth1860]

+Kayla Thompson It's also hard to have a genuine debate when someone has already decided that everyone who disagrees with them is insane, stupid, racist, etc.

[@DylanRoth1860]

***** And there are plenty of people who aren't libertarians, who are liberals, who are full blown statists, who treat me with respect. They're completely off their rockers, but they understand respect. I don't hate Seder because I disagree with him, I hate Seder because he is a genuine asshole.

[@alizaidi2893]

@@DylanRoth1860 lol anybody that supports slavery is trash

[@blakeburress]

Wherever this guy is now, i guarantee you he’s surrounded by LED lighting.

[@Sinleqeunnini]

You should bring back Chad now in 2020 and see what his views are. They probably have not changed much...

[@tureytaino2785]

Libertarians are like unicorns: You heard about them, people make pictures of them but no one has seen one on real life.

[@b.g.3073]

Lotta gray areas...... Whole lot of gray areas. Those damn gray areas.

[@ScoopMeisterGeneral]

"What do you think of grey areas?" "Well, it's a grey area..."

[@TORTOISESFORDAYS]

Rest in Power Michael 💛 laughing hysterically in the background since 2013.

[@Deeraise]

I listen to TMR almost every day, and God I wish they got more of these.

[@maxe159]

The little smile Sam Seder makes when the guys says "Absolutely my rights are being infringed upon!" Sam knows exactly what he's about to get into.

[@cmikerose1]

That was rough. Guy was in way over his head.

[@AaronDidIt]

"We do have some free-dumbs." CLASSIC!

[@vincesmith2499]

"I know more than climate scientists." Lol.

[@onyx8231]

This dude sounds like my drinking buddy about 13 beers in. After 13 beers he blacks out, and it's nothing but slippery slope arguments. 😵 _"Oh yeeeaaah? What if tha gumumment decides to take away all lights and leave us in the dark!? Huuh...?"_

[@JoliBastin]

He doesn't seem to get that we have to choose between the freedom to pollute and the freedom to not inhale exhaust fumes. Regulations are there to give us the freedom to live a decent life.

[@CallumPengelly]

Of course you'll say that until it affects your way of life, but then again that is the typical Liberal Totalitarian view, feed the poor, God forbid you do something about it, then again Liberals all ways have given people clothes off of the backs of others

[@undeadwill5912]

or you could sue the people who polluted your environment and property like we use to before the progressive era put a stop to that as property rights were disrespected.

[@niklashansen5432]

+Undead Will So attacking the symptoms instead of the disease? Sounds awesome..

[@gnomespace]

Dude, you missed it! If Alabama voted to invoke slavery, the question to the 'libertarian' should be, what if that law passed was that the whites were now the slaves, or gods forbid, libertarians? I think he would change his tune.

[@MeowMeow-ju4vf]

Lol, this is why cold feet Crowder didn't want to debate seder.😹😹😹😹

[@talktomenic3]

“Slavery should be allowed” “sorry for swearing” Bro idk if ur moral compass is adjusted correctly

[@mattb6197]

The caller uses the argument from ignorance approach. He can't see how the regulation prevents harm, therefore it must be a frivolous regulation. He offers the critical "Aw, c'mon. Seriously" argument. Later in the video, when Sam asks if a state should be allowed to institute slavery, he says "Yeah, I hate to say it, but I think they should." So, according to this libertarian caller, the state should be able to pass laws that severely trespass on your liberty. But they should not pass laws that encroach upon your choice of light bulbs.

[@xVigilanteJusice]

It is a shame that we do not regulate religion. Banning Judaism, Christianity, Islam. Sure would help the world now wouldn't it?

[@karlawade3346]

Sam, Matt, and Company, I am constantly in awe of you all. You are a shining light in an ocean of ignorance and stupidity. If I had to deal with some of the morons who call in to your show I would end up in a padded room. Stay strong and keep up the good fight. We are starting to turn things around. ✌

[@BaronVonQuiply]

Personally, I *love* the fact that I can run 5w bulbs now to light my house.

[@rsr789]

Caller: "global warming isn't caused by humans!" Also caller about 45 seconds later: "I haven't read anything about the subject"

[@ellesig4708]

Libertarians: "I believe in freedom for all and WHY DO YOU HATE LIBERTY?" Also Libertarians: "A state should be able to allow slave ownership"

[@lordlubu3029]

this guy's slope is so slippery I'm breaking my neck just listening to his argument lol

[@cnferguson5]

According to a Libertarian, regulating the watts of a light bulb should only be done so through the seller/producer and the consumer. In other words, it's up to the consumer to research these lightbulbs and find that they're wasting a lot of energy and they come to the conclusion they don't like that. Word about this gets out and the consumers boycott the lightbulb companies (most brands are owned by one company, GE, which makes it hard to boycott in the first place) by not purchasing any bulbs from them. The company profit decreases and they respond to the consumer's demands for energy efficient light bulbs. This ideology is just about as idealistic and impossible as Communism.

[@miguelzavaleta1911]

It gets even worse when you consider that in such a scenario it'd be up to the consumer to do research about every single purchase they make. It's beyond fantasy to think something like that is possible.

[@cnferguson5]

+Miguel Zavaleta technically it is possible, if someone just decides to spend every waking hour between work and whatever little sleep they get literally researching everything, even trying to find what logging company cut down the wood for your house. it'd have to be one a hobby, or a second job that doesn't pay you.

[@SadisticSenpai61]

Actually communism is more feasible than the libertarian wet-dreams of de facto anarchy that somehow isn't actually anarchy. Communism could at least work for brief period of time without turning into a dictatorship (the smaller the communist nation/society, the longer the period). The libertarian wet-dream would just collapse into pure anarchy immediately.

[@karlawade3346]

OR we could just let the government pay attention to the science and create regulations to benefit us all... but let's go with the libertarian plan. It's a lot more work.

[@zekekuehl2020]

Montgomery bus boycott 1955

[@BlanDam01]

I really wanna see some kind of 'where are they now' clips from these past callers.

[@aichpvee]

I’m guessing most of them are on a sex offender registry for trying to pick up girls at a middle school

[@Mrwizard-ck7oe]

​@@aichpveehey the government doesn't have any right to set minimum age requirements! Thats infringing on our freedom!

[@ProperlyGaming]

When you agree with slavery you have fallen off the deep end lmao

[@Lesinator]

23:00 there you have it, conservatism in a nutshell. Against welfare for everybody else but if you even think about cutting theirs they’ll scream Til they turn blue 🤣

[@RatPfink66]

The libertarian idea of US states doesn't just involve freedom from the feds. It involves increased dominion over municipalities and counties. The idea is to have a state government with zero accountability to opposition: what it wants, it gets, no exceptions.

[@ProfessorxVile]

Why do all the libertarian callers sound like teenagers?

[@1rickslater]

😂 he said other countries then listed off Africa, Europe and Brazil.. 🎶one of these things is not like the others...🎶

[@emmittthompson9376]

This guy needs to sue the Alabama educational system.

[@gordonbradley3241]

They say " freedom " ? They mean " licence " ! " Licence " for themselves !

[@jewishKingGig404]

At least now we can understand one thing, libertarians are definitely not the brightest bulbs