BERNIE WATCHES THEO VON GO FULL COMMIE

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[@thatdarnskag5043]

Bernie is older than both Trump and Biden, and he's still _this_ sharp in conversations. My GOAT, should've been president 😔

[@kathymarie3723]

And Trump should not have been the president that’s for damn sure

[@nickbachman663]

BuT hE was ToO oLd iN 2016

[@spacechampi0n]

He'll be this sharp until 120!

[@KingJT80]

​@@spacechampi0nhe'll be the sharpest of Cheddar.

[@southend26]

Sanders has been extremely successful. He'd have had to sell out to get something like the presidency. He's more of a success for never getting it.

[@joshmrcl]

Bernie is great at not talking down to people. We were robbed of his normalcy.

[@blahpunk1]

I like how he gives Theo credit for hitting the nail on the head. Theo acts dumb sometimes but I don't think he is.

[@carterwelker7782]

Yeah, the best part was 8:15 when Bernie said “Theo I think you said it better than I did.” A lot of leftists could take a page out of Bernie’s book there.

[@DaSkonk]

​@@carterwelker7782💯

​@@blahpunk1 Theo should read more but he's not dumb.

[@placebojesus5652]

Bernie should be finishing his second term right now

[@HyenaDandy]

"You identify as an American, and when you realize America is nothing but a shell LLC for big corporations, then you think, 'What am I?' [...] You feel ashamed of yourself." One of the best one sentence descriptions of alienation I have ever heard.

[@nothanks9503]

Ashamed no I had no part in this I’ve suffered to not even reap the benefits of such a system, but am I proud to be a part of it? No.

[@jhonshephard921]

and if you have heard the socialist anthem, The Internationale, you realize with this line of Theo why the internationale has the line "and end the vanity of nations, we have one earth on which to live"

[@garrettkuracka2277]

@@nothanks9503the idea of not feeling a sense of anything about your own nation is foreign to almost everyone. Shame and pride are the dominating emotions when it comes to national pride. You kinda have to pick one, and shame is the much better word. Shame doesn’t mean it’s your fault, I don’t really understand your reasoning here

[@nothanks9503]

@@garrettkuracka2277 What have I to be ashamed of I didn’t contribute to the problem rather the opposite I’m proud of what I’ve done for the people of my country what my country does isn’t on me

[@DellikkilleD]

@@garrettkuracka2277 lol, no dude, *most* people are not nationalist loons. Your country is a random happenstance of birth, and has NOTHING to do with how sane people self identify.

[@cowboybrooklyn]

Theo Von's sincerity is compelling.

[@MarcillaSmith]

Told Tucker Carlson, "you got that krAAAAaazee laugh!"

[@AbleMable]

It's kind of childlike, but it is endearing nonetheless

[@tjpotvin]

most endearing thing about him

[@dwally4198]

@@AbleMable I wouldn’t necessarily say childlike cause you tell he is a fairly intelligent guy, at least emotionally intelligent, and he is understanding complex concepts that Bernie is talking about. Maybe it is the plain speaking way he talks that makes it seem that way

[@AbleMable]

You can be both childlike and intelligent. I don't think they are mutually exclusive ​@@dwally4198

[@tcdan-c2m]

I agree with Jesse Ventura. There should be a maximum wage. As Governor Ventura said: "if you can't live off $1 million per year, there's something wrong with you".

[@WhiskerDooz]

Ikr. I just rewatched Wall Street: Money Never Sleeps, and it made me sick 😅

[@xbabu142x]

Crazy thing is my father says very similar stuff and what he does is keep the money in the business and the region especially depending on sector, considering in totality what money is, honestly should be illegal for me to use my business as a piggy bank or take more than the salary I agreed to based on work. Now my dad's been around a lot longer and if he did it the traditional route we're talking well over multi but apparently breaking the bond of trust between him and his people when the money was given with the belief it would yield benefit, the words don't matter it's their belief. You either do your best to help them or don't take the money, taking it as a bonus is eternity frozen behind judas, the newest addition to Cocytus' frozen lake in the lowest circle of Hell. It's odd when Jesse Ventura and the Bible are in agreement to me, I don't think religion is a good basis for a solid societal foundation, need proper laws.

[@tcdan-c2m]

@@xbabu142x Right. I think the point Ventura is making is that a person should really not need any more than $1 million a year to live off of.

[@CanadianWolverine]

That maximum income needs to include capital gains, write offs, and tax haven dodges.

[@mathewkelly9968]

I'd be a bit more generous and say 5 million , but yeh enough is enough at some stage

[@MichaelTorres-b2v]

Theo Von, unlike most people in the Roganverse, has enough humility to know that he doesn’t necessarily know everything already.

[@TheSlappicus]

Theo has a very strong sense of empathy. He's a very good-natured person.

[@PatrickPierceBateman]

He plays dumb for his comedy routine but he's a very smart guy.

[@professorswaggamuffin7572]

At first when I saw Theo I thought he was just some airhead or redneck but he's actually hilarious and quite thoughtful and empathetic.

[@gregDino32]

Very inspirational too.

[@AbleMable]

​@@PatrickPierceBateman🤔

He grew up poor in black or mixed-race neighborhoods

[@threeofeight197]

That was kind of powerful what Theo said about feeling ashamed. Like a sucker when the USA turns out to be some shell corporation for a few billionaires.

[@marcye3649]

I felt that in my soul truly. I’ve been thinking about it all day

[@MarcillaSmith]

​@@marcye3649was gonna post that. You are not alone ✊

[@jamesw4895]

Great interpretation.

[@Dana__black]

This is why they blackballed Bernie. He helps people open their eyes to the truth and what is actually important in politics.

@@marcye3649 Yea that was really well put

[@zinnmarx]

this conversation will make a dent in MAGA, small dent, but a dent nonetheless

[@KingJT80]

The dent this makes will never be bigger than the dent in their brains... But it never hurts to try.....

[@Redonepunch]

There is a portion of MAGA who were Bernie supporters. It’s kind of crazy when you think about it but it makes sense. People are so desperate for change and Trump swept in and continues to exploit them

[@KingJT80]

@@Redonepunch nozbol arc

[@kennybachman35]

@@Redonepunchthey’re populists. Bernie’s a populist in word only, unfortunately not in deed.

[@TheMissiIe]

​@kennybachman35 but isn't that because Bernie has been fked by the party for 8 years?

[@pattirockgarden4423]

Bernie is so smart, & despite his age, he thinks young, about the future. This conversation is fantastic, & should be shared all over.

[@NonyaSmith]

Bernie interviewing mall punks. ❤ There will never be another like him.

[@nothanks9503]

He just wants free healthcare so he doesn’t wither away draining his family of all their resources and their future while he sinks into a prison of blindness deafness and helplessness becoming a burden to those who he cares about most It’s honestly selfish

[@nothanks9503]

He just wants free healthcare so he doesn’t wither away draining his family of all their resources and their future while he sinks into a prison of blindness deafness and helplessness becoming a burden to those who he cares about most It’s honestly selfish

[@jwiegraffe6290]

And Bernie is older than Biden and Trump!

[@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342]

So smart it took him half a year to realize a genocide was happening lol

[@ilov3ohio2002]

having guys like bernie go on these shows is important. I was in the JRE world until I heard bernie speak and now I am here most days.

[@Ol_Keefus]

hell yeah

[@Average_Brad]

Same. It's ironic but seeing Bernie on JRE back in the day was the first time I heard a politician lay out all my grievances and concerns with the state of our government/country and actually talking about what needed to be done to change it, it was a revelation for me. I felt like someone in power actually gave a $hit for the first time in my life.

[@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342]

holy crap you have no brain lolz. But since you're here you should be more critical of this show. They often invite on centrist cux like krystal ball. Both emma and seder are small time millionaires who are out of touch in many ways. Binder hangs out with pdfiles like voochbag. There are flaws here big time. Be smarter and point them out.

[@toadwine7654]

i have to say from a scandinavian perspective. bernie is pretty much the only guy in americans politics that looks and feels like what i would describe as a normal politician.

[@xbabu142x]

Yeah seeing genuine people is refreshing. Am blessed to get bored trying to impress on KZbin out of boredom. What you're probably talking about is the feeling of watching some weirdo go and trick a golden retriever into being a attack dog and then letting it take the fall. Yeah that's odd and weirdo behavior for sure, it's nice having genuine open convo. This is how you educate someone as a politician instead of propagandize. This should be the standard expectation as politicians.

[@DanTheMailman330]

Theo grew up super poor along side other poor folks of color. His take at the end makes perfect sense.

[@sajjadnasir1120]

I am a minority and of the the term people of color because It sounds so divisive

[@kelliott7864]

​@sajjadnasir1120 Could you re-write your comment in English?

@@kelliott7864 why? you get it idjit

[@AryaFairywren]

@@sajjadnasir1120 it's a term widely used and picked by racial minorities themselves in USA, so arguing about it in the MR comment section is not going to be fruitful. You can't change a nation-wide used term with a KZbin comment.

[@a1ntcry1noveru]

@@sajjadnasir1120I’m assuming you mean against the term. My question is how is it divisive to you?

[@iPsychlops]

Trans person here. We need to have a bigger tent. Call people out for bag ideas but let them in if they are willing to change.

[@ona512]

People don't usually change, but in the event it does, we shouldnt tear them down at a vulnerable moment. Don't take the other cheek when it's turned to you and all that.

[@xbabu142x]

Hello I've met Theo in real life, am confident meeting a trans person having them say, can you use ____ it'd make me feel better would actually be it for even pronouns. Seen it happen with a another person at his show way before culture war. However much more issue I take is the only three people I guess I know were trans were due to finally allowing them to put them all on umbrella medical coverage, since a struggling family going into debt trying to help their kid to me is not cool. I only found out when they thanked me recently. There are so few trans people in the US, that every Democrat who loves trans people supposedly can get them umbrella medical coverage and it not impact their wealth. It's aways the need of a inflammatory talking point to upset people to donate. Politicians are a bleak bunch but if you're trans look into the laws in Signapore and see how they have been in place since 1972 and there is no negative issues, no change in number, etc since these idiot propogandists are so asinine they won't even give concrete info to argue self-worth on. If this and Twitter is your thing argue off reality, just saying this as a teacher who understands the evil in saying someone is of value but not showing it.

[@T.R.75]

i really really wanted Bernie to win the Dem candidacy when he ran. what a different country it would be now. Theo is pretty good.

[@DellikkilleD]

you massively overestimate the power of the president. things would mostly remain the same.

[@zack_whom]

@@DellikkilleDit’s not just about policy. It’s about realigning the priorities of the people, giving light to the issues people need to hear that the media refuses to address. We need a paradigm shift that moves away from the culture war to a class war

[@macaron3141592653]

Given the political environment right now and how disenfranchised so many people feel now, I almost tear up seeing Bernie speaking either currently or even in the past. We were so close to getting a genuinely good person into presidential office and we fucking blew it, TWICE.

[@seanfrench3157]

I cry my eyes out this isn’t the 2nd Sanders administration term.

[@andrewlikesmetal1095]

Yeah, we can thank establishment democrats for that. Things must be really down bad for them if they chose an actually great guy like walz for a vp. Hopefully this means a major shift to a more progressive, actually effective democratic party going forward.

[@wyguy1212]

At least we have Tim walz now hopefully he seems pretty genuinely good

[@alizard9228]

We didn't blow it, the corporate Democrats did. Remember all of them dropping out, one by one, and endorsing Joe Biden, the least popular candidate, in 2016? It's ironic, but big money is what stopped Bernie's presidency. And of course he doesn't bring it up because he's still trying to work within the system.

[@threeofeight197]

There should be a minimum wage AND a maximum wage. 💯

[@OffTheIsland25]

100% income tax on net worth of over $1 billion.

[@xbabu142x]

Yep. In a business I own I agree to a set salary and all my employees know each others and mine salaries. No one really needs hr at a small size under 500 employees even. Sometimes my employees will make way more than me but if you check the work done, they have worked way more than me too. I'm not sure when CEO bonuses started but excess money is supposed to be invested into the business or community surrounding that business morally and logically. Taking that money and doing anything else with it is the act of usury, in Islam they call it Riba, it is prohibited under Sharia law to ensure equity in commerce. It seems every religion over a thousand years has this one in different names but same severity. Yes even in Judaism, the older text of course. Only ones that don't have it are the ones with the cannibalistic rituals and Mormonism. Mormonism isn't old enough to decide if it's a bad idea I guess but the cannibalism causes Kuru and just like mad cow human version mad cow is incurable and fatal.

Abolishing waged-slavery is the real goal but sure

[@jez443]

@@OffTheIsland25ok but here’s the problem you give all that tax money to the government, how do we ensure they’re putting it into the right infrastructure instead of into wars and arming other countries? My argument against high taxes is that our government generally sucks ass and allocates our tax money like shit. They also will line their pockets still. So pick your poison

[@davemisiaczuk94]

I think a pay ratio cap would be better than a pay cap because the proper amount would be argued to death and would need to change over time, a ratio would be flexible as it doesn't matter what a CEO wants to earn so long as the lowest paid workers are not paid less than 5:1 or whatever the ratio ended up being Many CEO to worker ratios are in the hundreds today

[@terrencejwistrick]

Theo’s interview with Bassim was amazing. A lot of fact checking on his end which lead to a better conversation because it allowed Theo to talk more freely knowing things were being said in confidence.

[@threeofeight197]

Yeah he is actually pretty good at asking the right questions and taking the time to fact check.

[@maazkalim]

You meant the interview which gassed-up Benny Morris' relative over tRoPeS?!?

[@thescoobymike]

How is saying something on a podcast considered “in confidence”?

[@brianbuchwak9981]

​@@thescoobymikei think they meant "confidently"

[@a_life_painted_with_color]

I served in the military for almost 16 years, the shame I carry around is a secret. Because trying to explain it to most would be exhausting. Because exactly, if America is a big LLC/corporation what does that make it's citizens? Chattel? And the citizens who serve and are aware are complicit.

[@blairhaffly1777]

Haven't seen a doctor since 1980. My dentist is hydrogen peroxide.

[@VitalVampyr]

What? You're going to feel ashamed to live in a society? Hardly any civilized human who ever lived had much say in how their civilization was run but things would be a lot worse for all of them if they didn't keep that civilization running. Just do what you can to make things better, it's not much but it's also not nothing.

[@JonDundas10]

Indeed

[@deadfr0g]

Theo has always struck me as someone who’s got a big heart and is genuinely interested in listening to other people, and I will forever be highly optimistic about the odds of having someone like that turn the corner if you can reach them with the right messaging. Bernie, as always, is absolutely fantastic with his messaging.

[@lukeyluke117]

Citizens United is BEYOND FUCKED

[@alin81-82]

Must be overturned.

[@mr.rubicon1193]

​@@alin81-82 they should just enforce the laws like the ruling never came down, and say that the courts never had the right to review it.

[@vertigo1997]

Thank you Theo for having Bernie on.

[@xbabu142x]

Theo tries his best to make a human connection with his guest, and this one was a lot easier than some others on him.

[@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342]

@@xbabu142x Was he trying to make a human connection with people who are trans? Seems like he just hates them but okay lolz

[@josec1538]

Theo is a leftist. It wasn’t surprising but I’m sure some of his viewers are surprised lol They will dislike that he platformed Bernie and prove they are indoctrinated by politics too lol

[@xbabu142x]

@@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342 I replied in full to the trans identifying individual and not you since I can look at you with revulsion for further aiding in the propaganda. You don't understand love nor hate, nor like yourself. I don't feel the need to speak on the virtues of a man with someone who pushes out the points of propogandists with personal wealth to cover medical insurance for all those kids and it not impact their wealth. Instead they use it to incite emotional responses so people donate but stop people wanting to provide the actual services since they need the political point. Trust me there are so few trans people in the US it was actually a good way to get the charter passed in Canada. How are you doing any activism right now? You got anyone saying you're even a decent person in real life dude. You don't even have the proper talking points to showcase why trans people are entitled the rights under the US constitution, so if they are children they don't slowly lose their self-belief while you have fun taking pot shots online. Everybody who read this far, understand this here is the anatomy of the neoliberal. A over riding need to feel smug. You are not winning any arguments by arguing online, as you don't even need the escapism supposedly, what a waste of flesh you are, to think you're helping and having the same effect as hatred is worse when it comes to kids.

[@biskit8050]

@@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342 He doesn't hate trans people, hes just an idiot who has people who do on (like Tucker). But he himself doesn't really hate them

[@ChristinaGerlach]

Love you, Bernie.

[@piku5637]

Once the masses figure out that worker co-ops and unionizing is the way forward, things will get so much better for everyone and the future of the planet.

[@coolioso808]

You are on the right track. But also mutual aid networks are going to be a huge part, local assemblies, direct democracy, and for Goodness sake vote 3rd party, left, Green Party or something like that after November. Get Democrat voting out of your system this November, if you have to, to stop Trump, but then stop voting for Dems or GOP for President ever again. Bernie, OF ALL PEOPLE, if he is still Senator 4 years down the road (which is doubtful, just cause he might want to retire by then) should endorse a democratically elected 3rd party Green or PSL candidate.

[@user-qk2ni1qc1r]

So never. Great talk.

[@shreddiekrueger359]

I respectively disagree. Don’t get me wrong, unions are good and co ops are preferable but neither pose a long term solution to problems we face under capitalism. Check out Luxemburg “reform or revolution” chapter 7 (I think) on co ops, unions, and democracy. I concur with her but in short workers in co ops are obliged to take on the role of capitalist entrepreneur. If the workers interest become dominant they end by dissolving. Why? competition, the market, it is still domination of capital over the process of production. Again, if you’re interested in a leftist counter view check out Rosa Luxemburg. She goes into more depth on the topic.

[@T.R.75]

they only figure it out when its too late, then the younger generation comes along and hears all those nasty isms thrown around about unions etc. then the cycle beings again and nothing changes.

[@coolioso808]

@@shreddiekrueger359 I have great respect for Rosa Luxemburg, but she passed in 1919 and would have NO idea the power of the financial sector and Internet, so the strategy for system change has to have many aspects, not JUST worker co-ops, but worker co-ops should be a part of it. Smart worker co-ops, however. And worker co-ops as not-for-profit and networked with several businesses the town needs, so they are ready for a socialist revolution into a communist evolution. A huge part is mutual aid networks, time-banking, library socialism and direct democracy and reclaiming the commons. The people will not have enough money and means of production if they stay in small neighbourhood subsistence farming. They need to gain access to the means of production, use automation to reduce need for human labour and hours, reduce the work week and show the new way forward. If you have a rebuttal, I'm happy to hear it.

[@Fleato]

the difference with theo is that when he says some right wing shit, he doesn't seem like he says it to be mean, he jsut doesn't know, and he seems actually open to education rather than Joe who is open to hearing weird shit.

[@maeschder]

*Joe gets fact-checked in real time* "Idk that sounds true though, huh"

[@muchograndeyolatengo]

Joe used to be open. I think Joe's problem is that his mind was *too* open to the point where his brain fell out.

[@xtinkerbellax3]

We should know before we speak though, when talking on such a public platform. We should also normalize saying I don't know instead of giving uninformed opinions..

[@nothanks9503]

@@maeschderWhat when some conflicts with the propaganda joe is selling he rejects it or moves on

[@reformedleftie]

You guys are the ones who turned Rogan into a political figure. The dude hosts a bro podcast and this was never a problem before until politics seeped into everything. Rogan has zero responsibility to your beliefs and ideologies. You have been so deluded and Mockingbirded that you think a dude who supports gay marriage, universal healthcare, free college, and is notorious for being a druggie, is some right-wing fascist. Rethink all of your worldviews immediately.

[@satevo462]

Theo is not a bad dude. He's got a good heart. He's just learning in real time and because of that he can be susceptible to bad actors and misinformation.

[@carlos_herrera]

Sanders was sympathetic to Theo Von because he was wearing the national costume of Vermont. He probably drove to the interview in a Subaru outback.

[@xbabu142x]

Nah this is his look, he realizes he's biting Lesbian rugged outdoors type style being a city slicker.

That was kind of funny even if you are a trumpist, which I hope you aren't

[@AbleMable]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@mattroberts86]

It was a Volvo.

[@TheFamousMockingbird]

lol nah dude it would b e a phish shirt then, they literally formed in vermont when bernie was the mayor, and because of a law bernie sanders passed that invested a shit ton of money givien to clubs and bars to be able build up the arts and stuff in the downtown region.

[@Mr.Man333]

"My favorite kind of weed was uhhh... Cocaine" -Theo Von

[@KrazyKaiser]

That's honestly legendary. Maybe I should listen to more Theo Von.

[@professorswaggamuffin7572]

At first when I saw Theo i thought he was kind of airheaded and just some redneck comedian but he's actually quite thoughtful, compassionate and hilarious.

[@jonm7888]

The clip of him saying he bought a Kat Williams Christmas statue, when it was a black nutcracker, is one of the funniest things I've ever seen.

[@gordocojones]

“There’s a rumor going around my town that I beat Down’s Syndrome” -Theo Von

[@nothanks9503]

@@professorswaggamuffin7572You’re not the sharpest tool but you get the job done huh

[@tashnyats1426]

Imagine you’re in your 40’s and you’re told you’ve got cancer that’s terminal. You’re not on hit with the fact that you’re going die but also hit with the fact that you leaving comfortably means that you might end up leaving the ones you love most with nothing and debt

[@kennybachman35]

Who tf in their 40’s can afford healthcare? 🤣😂🤣

[@commonsense571]

😔💔

[@andrewlikesmetal1095]

I know a guy who was diagnosed and took himself out. Told his family he didn't want to ruin their lives with medical bills in a note. We are in a terrible place right now if that is somehow preferable to seeking care. Horrible state of affairs.

[@OddWoz]

@@andrewlikesmetal1095that’s far too common and I’ve heard a scary amount of people trying to logically consider doing the same if they ended up in the situation. Really sad for sure.

[@andrewlikesmetal1095]

@OddWoz yeah we had an old couple do it together in a park down the street from me because they got diagnosed. They were the parents of my coworkers wife, and the guy was so messed up because of it. Took a few of his shifts so he could take care of his family, and they could grieve. Right after the holidays, too, just terrible. With the increasing amount of carcinogens and plastics in everything, it's sadly going to get even more common unless things start changing for the better. The cost of treatment really needs to be regulated, and health care needs to be a right, not a privilege, so people can win against cancer and live for decades knowing if it comes back they can fight it again. Debt is pure unapologetic evil, the way our gov tosses them aside is disgusting.

[@thehoboman]

Think about how different this country would be right now if Bernie won..

[@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342]

I am. Not much obviously. Took Bernie half a year to notice the genocide that our capitalist system helped set off. He's not much better than the orange guy or biddy sad to say.

[@ona512]

Or at least listened to Bernie a little bit. The Bernie Wedge.

[@detectivemarkseven]

Bernie wont fight back with the DNC

[@evelynwilliams652]

This is so surreal to me. I remember Theo from my childhood on MTV, and here he is interviewing Bernie Sanders...

[@maazkalim]

Wait! He's decades old?

[@joelewis1776]

@@maazkalimhe’s in his 40s 😂 he was on mtv like 25 years ago

[@marylander3798]

Was he on The Real World?

@@marylander3798 who tf cares lmfaooo

[@Ehh.....]

I do.

[@Code_Dee]

My dad's had a toothache for like 4 years and put off going to the dentist for financial reasons, it finally got too bad so he went and found he's got several bad teeth that need to be pulled and it's going to cost like $10k because medicare doesn't cover dental. He's on part C through Anthem thinking he's got at least some dental coverage only to find that they'll only cover a small portion...everyone has a story like this in America smh.

[@friescustomfabriction3016]

That's completely fucked. I had 3 teeth pulled, all beside eachother. It was a 30 minute appointment and I paid like 300 bucks. I'm Canadian but dental isn't covered by universal and I have no private insurance. Your guys system is truly fucked

[@Code_Dee]

@@friescustomfabriction3016 I think the 10k estimate included implants or denture pieces, but yeah just the extraction is 3k. So it's either 3 times more expensive than Canada (if you go by "per tooth") or 10 times. U.S.A! U.S.A!

[@vegadog30]

Dental insurance is better than nothing but it’s terrible as well

[@drewbronson8804]

It's really easy to find common ground on political issues with right leaning and even far right leaning individuals. The problem is, it always flakes off into some bizarre direction where they start calling you the buzz word of the day and completely shut down and become blinded by the rhetoric that's being pumped into them

[@caseypdx503]

Sounds *highly* similar to when a pro-p leftist tries talking to even a “liberal Zionist”

[@SmilingDesperado]

That works both ways. The buzz words come from the other side as well. A conversation isn't going to go far when accusations of racism, sexism, bigotry, etc, are carelessly thrown about.

[@caseypdx503]

@@SmilingDesperado true! I can think of several conversations/debates involving MR crew members themselves!

[@SmilingDesperado]

@@caseypdx503 Yeah, i've soured on MR exactly for this reason. They are way too quick to label and name call instead of actually addressing arguments.

[@CanadianWolverine]

@@SmilingDesperadothose aren’t just buzz words when someone is actively engaging in those actions making a negative material and safety difference. Telling someone to stop shouting fire in a crowded theatre isn’t just “accusations”, it’s trying to save many people’s lives from being crushed by a cruel act of fear and panic.

[@southend26]

Sanders would almost be more effective as a podcast host.

[@djfity3015]

He works for us on committees in the white house, the lower drug costs biden passed today was a part of bernies campaign platform.

[@Code_Dee]

He has a podcast. It's like a once a month thing though

[@Therap1ssed]

Theo Von is like an American version of Carl Pilkington. A guy who is simultaneously stupid and a genius.

[@benf1111]

He's got an incredibly quick wit and recall. He might not be educated, but his brain works incredibly fast.

[@Solidsnaik]

They’re both equal parts wise and moronic. Foolish but smart.

[@-7070]

There is a woman I follow on instagram born disabled and she had to pay nearly $50,000 for an electric wheelchair that was suited for her needs and it's stories like this that continue to embolden my view on Universal healthcare which I have always been for as long as I can remember When I was 11 years old I remember having the conversation and I just still can't understand how people wouldn't be for it. It doesn't matter how much propaganda is out there it really is common sense and makes me really question just how dumb some people really are. There was a time I was in debt nearly $40, 000 for an emergency appendicitis surgery, why? Just why? Yes I understand the corruption but I genuinely feel like the people who would take money to allow children to die of cancer just aren't human, there's just no way we are the same species

[@Telecritter78]

On the off chance you haven’t paid all that debt off, you should know that if you let medical (only medical) debt go into collection and bargain with the new holder you can often pay something like 10% of the remainder and completely wipe it. Furthermore, if they DON’T offer a deal, refuse to pay a dime and call back in 6 months. Always works. (Don’t interpret the his as an argument against M4A - I *intensely* support it - just thought you might benefit from knowing this)

[@glitchedoom]

In my experience, it's because conservatives think they shouldn't have to pay for other people's healthcare because they have no idea how anything actually works. Mix in some fear mongering about waiting years to see a doctor too.

[@eliaschevette]

Theo is a fool but not malicious. He just grew up uneducated but he really does everything he can to learn. That is a noble trait to have.

[@user-ck6yo4li2c]

He has a bachelor’s degree from U of New Orleans. He plays dumb hillbilly for laughs

[@billwoods9302]

The only reason billionaires exist is because the public at large has no realistic sense of scale. We now have multi-billionaires and nobody thinks anything of it, but there is no occupation or profession on this planet that is worth that much money. The only way it can be achieved is through the exploitation of the working class. To get a sense of scale, to receive 1 billion dollars, you would need to be paid $1,000 a day for 2,737 years, 10 months and 7 days. That's a ridiculous amount of money for a single person to have, existing within the same society as homeless vets and poverty at every level. The scam they engineered to provide cover are charities. Charities exist solely as a mechanism to move money around and avoid taxation, that give the appearance of addressing problems that are never permanently fixed, that wouldn't exist if we simply had more realistic and equitable taxation of the wealthy. Why does the Wounded Warrior Project exist? Why is there a charity that relies on public donations to provide prosthetic limbs to disabled vets? Because our military budget doesn't care about vets. It serves defense contractors. And that's why we spend more than the next ten biggest militaries combined and haven't passed an audit at the Pentagon in half a century. Americans need to start understanding the ridiculous scale of wealth we allow and the exploitation of labor we ignore that provides it.

[@Code_Dee]

For real, it's hard to even wrap your mind around how much more a billion is than even a million. I think now that we have people rich enough to launch themselves into space for fun I think people kind of get it. Most republicans I talk to are not fans of the rich, and if you talk to them it's not difficult to get them to agree we need higher taxes on the super rich. Problem is republicans are also pretty frickin racist; they believe the hype about "migrant crime" and vote based on that, and whether or not the president will let them buy ammo through the mail.

[@xbabu142x]

In a business I own I agree to a set salary and all my employees know each others and mine salaries. No one really needs hr at a small size under 500 employees even. Sometimes my employees will make way more than me but if you check the work done, they have worked way more than me too. I'm not sure when CEO bonuses started but excess money is supposed to be invested into the business or community surrounding that business morally and logically. Taking that money and doing anything else with it is the act of usury, in Islam they call it Riba, it is prohibited under Sharia law to ensure equity in commerce. It seems every religion over a thousand years has this one in different names but same severity. Yes even in Judaism, the older text of course. Look up the different concepts and see for yourself even. Every single religion past a 1000 years. Only ones that don't have it are the ones with the cannibalistic rituals and Mormonism. Mormonism isn't old enough to decide if it's a bad idea I guess but the cannibalism causes Kuru and just like mad cow human version mad cow is incurable and fatal.

[@japiro14]

Prohibiting super packs it's the first step. You need to be able to choose politicians that are not bought. Otherwise it's kind of impossible to change the taxation. Next time you vote, do your research and vote for the politicians that didn't take money from super packs. Even if you don't agree 100% with his policies is better than voting for a politicians that says everything u want to hear but takes money from the rich.

[@Carlos-xz3vi]

How the heck is Bernie this sharp???? I’ll always be fascinated by this man.

[@Govanmauler]

This is what political discussion should sound like, the US used to be this way too but McConnell , the tea party and then Trump have pissed all that away

[@AndyMorrisArt]

How did my liberal friends think Bernie was the weaker candidate in 2016 to take on Trump? Hillary Clinton and the DNC gave us Trump and brought us to where we are.

[@pranays]

Millionaires working for billionaires on mainstream media especially TV

[@Govanmauler]

Think about it , the answer is in front of you

[@scottspencer9784]

Wow! Just Wow! Bernie walks the Walk and the Talk is sooo clear! Thanks y’all for bringing this to light!

[@drone124]

I wouldn't say Theo is part of the Rogan universe. he's a comedian and Rogan calls himself one and he has the largest podcast. makes sense they would rub shoulders but his rise has been independent of Rogan

[@fminc]

ya, 100 bro.

[@kelliott7864]

The first time Theo went on Rogan, Joe didn't catch Theo's jokes because Rogan has no understanding of comedy. It was WILD.

[@tomjoad8272]

​@kelliott7864 yeah, that is a common occurrence for someone like joe who claims to be so dedicated to the craft of comedy. Lol

[@fminc]

@@kelliott7864 yes, I remember that, nice 1.

[@banparlous2552]

The Majority Report always assumes too much

[@seanferguson-th6ny]

Theo has done a lot of things I cringe at but I see him in this situation being very genuine and legitimately raising questions in a common folksy sort of way to demystify politics for Americans and I fully support that.

[@hrtvolleyball01]

I think it’s because he’s an empathetic person. Bernie’s willingness to sit down with someone who can be pegged as “right wing” sometimes is how you win over the long term. People like Theo are looking for someone to validate their feelings of alienation. They’re good people who due to life’s challenges have started hardening over time-the right message can break that shell

[@somethingelse4424]

Yeah, I've always thought Theo was funny but he's definitely had his share of reactionary oof opinions. I think he's genuine, and sometimes being genuine puts you on the wrong side of certain issues if you have the wrong information.

[@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342]

@@hrtvolleyball01 So that's why he's transphobic and buddy buddy with tucky tuckerson. Got it... Lol MR has too many brainless libs who can't spot a sob when they see one lol.

[@jex8046]

It's crazy how I would skip his videos after watching videos like Hasan, the Bernie video needed to come sooner. I commend both of them nonetheless I strongly believe middle America needed to see the video

[@CysaDaMerc]

X-Men 97 was amazing, and proof that even something as corrupt as Disney can still produce great art.

[@michaelweller5470]

It got shit on and I don’t get it.

[@adamwelle818]

Gambit is my favorite from the original xmen. I was shocked at how good '97 was!

[@JeannieLove]

​@michaelweller5470 Those people don't care about the stuff they hate on. They're just trying to push a culture war because it makes them money.

[@mcglubski]

​@michaelweller5470 I've grown a little lukewarm on the first 4 episodes but episode 5 onwards was pure gold.

[@jhonshephard921]

its more that artists manage to get around the business side. Disney even made propaganda type docs about their parks and even there they admit about friction between creatives wanting better Disney parks and finance people wanting to spend as little as possible and charge as much as possible. Andor was the previous example of creatives sneaking stuff past leaders.

[@danielessex2162]

Get rid of wall street

[@coolioso808]

Yes, good idea, but that's a monumental task and goal, nothing going to happen soon. Need a socialist revolution outside the 2 corporate party system, rooted in community co-operation, mutual aid networks, library socialism and The New Human Rights Movement (shout-out Peter Joseph), type direction.

[@danielessex2162]

@coolioso808 We definitely need to get the idea out there. Too many people think wall street is the only choice American business has

[@coolioso808]

@@danielessex2162 You watched the 2pac clip in this video, right? Like I think A LOT of people hate the big money in politics and hate capitalism, even if they don't get all the details, they know how inequality feels and it sucks and it doesn't need to be this way. But the masses voice is muted by corporate media and corporate politicians. It makes us seem crazy like we are different from our fellow man and woman. But we are more the same. Same basic needs; Housing, food, water, care, etc. What makes us different, our skills and interests are the diversity that should be our strength, not exploited for filthy profit by the capitalists. So, I try to remind people "Think global, act local." Be aware what is going on in the world, but then act local. Join a sustainability group, a socialist group or whatever, with like-minds and read and research, and come up with action plans. If they are based on building a new system of mutual aid, worker co-op networks, library socialism, direct democracy and 100% wind, water, solar energy localized for everybody's needs to be met - we are headed in the right direction.

[@caseypdx503]

Lmao, very measured and pragmatic take 🙄

[@stambo1983]

Agreed. The current system relies on infinite growth, might prove difficult on a finite planet. The current system unchallenged, will fail and millions will die. I hope I'm wrong.

[@wyguy1212]

"If I identify as an American and America is just a big shell LLC for mega corporations then what am I??" really well said Theo this is classic alienation

[@gnjoeyhowell]

I feel like Theo Von sincerely has an open mind and considers both sides of issues and that is very admirable of him.

[@galacticmaui2]

Just because he is friends with Joe doesn’t mean he thinks like him. So is Bill Burr and Dave Chapelle.

[@maazkalim]

The latter two are friends with Joe Rogan?

[@joshuawall2590]

​@maazkalim been friends with him for a while.

[@maazkalim]

@@joshuawall2590 I see. Thanks for confirming.

[@blackalien6873]

Dave Chapelle has gone down the transphobia rabbit hole, and it doesn't look like he's ever coming out.

[@SuzakuX]

​@@joshuawall2590don't assume because these guys go on each others' podcasts to promote stuff that they're all friends. Burr lives in LA, Rogan in Austin, it's not like they're getting beers after work and grilling burgers on the weekend. They have working relationships in which they sit down and talk on camera for 2-3 hours once every 8 months.

[@myekal147]

If Bill Burr likes him, there must be something there.

[@chadalpha7983]

Bill Burr likes Rogan

[@PMickeyDee]

I've seen him a few times, not my style. Anytime I ask for recommendations for comedians from Louisiana I always get him suggested & I try again. Knowing the area he's from, I'm just kinda waiting for some wild stuff to come out. (I hope my instincts are wrong fwiw).

[@andrewkline5611]

@@chadalpha7983Yeah, but also calls him out when he’s being an idiot about things like vaccines.

[@llRoBoBinHoll]

Do you need someone else to tell you whether you should like someone?🤔

[@Code_Dee]

Hey well we can at least all agree Burr hates Maher

[@myekal147]

Von is either going to be very, very rich in the near future, or he is going to just be wealthy, and he will help his fellow brothers and sisters...let's hope for the best.

[@kennybachman35]

He’s been a millionaire for a very long time.

[@SugginCahk]

He's already extremely rich😂 he sells out shows, sells merch, runs ads, has sponsors.... He's eating very well

[@PapiCthulu2]

Isn't this the guy that interviewed Roseanne? This speaks volumes for Bernie because he will go and talk with anyone, not just echo chambers

[@csvscs]

I love this convo byw one of my fav politicans and a seemingly genuine comedian

[@alecm_9459]

Yup. Bigger tent is the right idea. Theo is a good and genuine human. Our movement suffers without guys like him apart of it

[@tsedubgyatso]

This ! ☝️

[@SarastistheSerpent]

I disagree. I don’t think we should be tolerant of bigotry

[@dead_inside674]

We could've had it all .... Love you, Bernie

[@volusiasorange]

now we are rolling in the deep

[@missshroom5512]

How about how Medicare does not cover dentures or implants for our retired citizens? I find that disgusting that these people have paid into a system and they consumed these products from these corporations their whole life and we can not respect them enough to give them teeth in their old age. Just so disturbing the disrespect of our elders. That is shameful

[@jaredemershaw7180]

Theo is his own man. Don’t clump him in with Rogan

[@sh19413]

Yeah that’s pretty annoying

[@AW-sx8hm]

I accidentally lumped him in with dutch right-wing provocateur and film director Theo van Gogh (well, former) because I misread the video title. 😅

[@Metonymy1979]

Theo for the win...on this topic

[@F4R207]

When Bertnie was running for the democratic partry spot to become the presidential candidate he whent on Joe Rogan for a long form interview/talk and the reponses in the youtube comments from JR fans was upplifting and suppotive of him and his message, it was quite amazing to read.

[@itcouldbelupus2842]

Yup. Unfortunately America doesn't have as much democracy as it should. The people don't get to choose their presidential candidate, they only get to choose between pre selected, establishment approved candidates. It's the illusion of choice.

[@charlescraft5582]

Austin Powers said it best: You don’t realize that there is no world anymore, it’s only corporations.

[@2906justblaze]

Theo Von had Bassem Youssef on dropping knowledge. I was surprised.

[@EricKoonitsky-bd3hl]

Theo was on MTV's The Real World (or maybe Road Rules) way back. That's how I know him. I watched this interview and he seems like a dude with solid morals whose sincere questions were met with right-wing "explanations". Bernie does a great job of leading Theo to question and dismiss those false explanations in the interview. No condescension, pure empathy.

[@Ghost8386]

I remember when Theo Von was on Road Rules and The Challenge back in the day.

[@geep2000]

The Challenge just had it's 40th season premiere last night. Would have been cool if Theo returned as this season brings back favorites from the different eras, but in the past he's said he isn't interested in doing it.

[@neorock6135]

*I CLEARLY rem when Rogan played a clip of Sam* criticizing those making obscenely excessive wealth, in his Patrick Ben David interview. Rogan took it out of context to profusely mock it, saying this is "so stupid." Let's see what Rogan has to say about his close friend who very explicitly just said: *Theo:* _"I think they're should be a limit on how much ppl can earn, $millions are okay but not $billions!"_

[@GordosMom]

Don’t sleep on Theo von. He’s exactly the type to give someone the opportunity to sell or defeat themselves to the typical small town American. He’s sweet, honest, funny, and open. Not the most articulate but can make the connections for others. Super relatable guy. And not afraid to deviate from Joe Rogan yet respectful when he deviates.and hilarious as he does it. Invite him on just to enjoy him. He’s a good guy. I wanted to write him off book the Joe Rogan association but he’s altogether a good guy.

[@martymar8993]

Theo definitely gained some subscribers with that interview. That was more meaningful than anything we will see up to the election from either side.

[@integralsuspect]

I was annoyed at the end with the first message Emma read that stated Theo has some bad views on the trans community, and maybe he is not a good person to be airing on this program, like bro, this is talking about economics and monetary policy. We can't expect everyone to be experts _and_ generalists. This was a good segment that stayed on topic and hopefully can show people how "scary liberals" aren't the caricatures that less educated pundits like to paint, specifically about economic policy.

[@thedarkknight221]

I agree. You can win people over with common ground. It's actually something that annoys me sometimes with emma, matt lech, and to a lesser degree, Sam. They sometimes do the same thing and burn bridges that could otherwise be mended through common ground. It is easier to convince people on all kinds of subjects when you first highlight your shared ideals and lessen the hostility.

[@Jawsnake]

I facepalmed when the black dork started talking about how people desire the suburbs to live in their own castles and shut themselves out from the outside world. Beyond out of touch maybe people don’t want to live blocks away from urban warfare

[@gaeron1305]

Expecting everyone to be on their page or they are a bad guy/enemy is a big reason a lot of people can't stand the left.

[@SarastistheSerpent]

@@thedarkknight221it’s a bit easy for you to say that when you’re not trans

[@SarastistheSerpent]

I don’t get what your point is? Theo has egregious views on trans people, and has hosted people who hold all out genocidal opinions on them. Are you saying those views shouldn’t be criticised? I fear if the left becomes tolerant of said anti-trans views, trans people will genuinely become politically displaced and dispossessed, as there will be no side advocating for their civil rights.

[@LabGoats]

I think this is the longest I've listened to MR without hearing someone say, 'PAUSE IT' 😂 What a great convo

[@gianishino3183]

I wouldn't clump Theo with Rogan. Theo says crazy things, Rogan actually believes them.

[@lybrty7272]

This is my favorite YT channel. You guys are thoughtful, smart, serious, light, and broadly informative.

[@robertgoyette5863]

theo going full ryan grim in that dead longsleeve

[@x-xPhobia]

Bro that "i think there should be a limit on what people earn" came from the heart. hes been holding that in for awhile. Im pretty sure he iis from a poor part of Louisiana so he knows the class struggle. I think he legitimately mightve reached some form of class consciousness lol. Theo is pretty open minded i know he talked to Stavros about trans people and he was pretty receptive. He is also legitimately hilarious. Incredibly quick witted lol

[@ItsANiceDayAlways]

Hoping Theo goes back on Rogan soon b4 he forgets the pertinent info about the health system.

[@magnump.i.7700]

This was actually a good conversation, theo von made Bernie double over in laughter, it was awesome

[@gimmeallthebingbong]

I really hope to god Theo takes something from this

[@brograb898]

I love that Bernie has two pens in his pocket. “I may have to write something down. I may forget it. I need to write it down” “you do have staff mr sanders.” “Eh, I wanna write it down”

[@paulomilan515]

Damn he's all cleaned up... He looks like 10 years to yoounger.

[@majinmanmartianhunter4995]

he look 17! blew my mind

[@buckweaver7961]

Theo and the loss of identity due to broken promises is so spot on it hurts

[@kennybachman35]

Theo was famous when Rogan was still feeding people bugs and mule semen. 🤣

[@skippy277]

Except you’re wrong …im no rogan fan but he was already a ufc commentator In 97 and co starred in one of the biggest sitcoms of that decade …that’s a big part of the reason he is where he is today …

[@kennybachman35]

@@skippy277 nobody knew Rogan from the UFC. His fame is entirely from Fear Factor. I was literally alive when it happened, and i knew who Theo Von was. When he became a UFC commentator the most commonly uttered phrase was “is that the guy from fear factor”. 🤣

[@skippy277]

@@kennybachman35 so no one remembers Joe when he played Joe on tv in a huge sitcom that ran for five years in the 90s? Are you insane ? Sad that you remember things so poorly lol

[@skippy277]

@@kennybachman35 lol were you literally alive Kenny? Were you the only one there lmao…kinda pathetic that you speak with such confidence on something obviously disprovable …

[@kennybachman35]

@@skippy277 yeah no one watched that show. I didn’t even know he was on a sitcom until he mentioned it in an interview decades later. I think you’re thinking of “Joey” from Friends. Fear Factor was primetime network cable television at its peak. UFC was still pay-per-view back then, they didn’t even broadcast old fights. Tank Abbot was still a thing. No internet, no social media, laptops and google were in their infancy. They were just starting to build networks between banks and big department stores to make online transactions. Cellphones were the size of a brick. People still had car phones with cords attached to the car. We had suitcase cellphones and house phones on our walls. There was no such thing as broadband or wifi. Teenagers hung out at pool halls and had keg parties. It was a simpler time. I graduated high school in 97’. Fond memories, but Joe Rogan was always the Fear Factor guy. And Theo Von was that funny kid from MTV’s Real World Road Rules Challenge. MTV was a channel that played music videos, and then later they invented reality tv shows.

[@irontobias]

I live in an older (pre WWII) suburb in WI, and it's bizarre... million dollar houses next to slums on pretty much every street within the city - but also plenty of public parks and beaches. I got lucky and met some like-minded neighbors by chance playing at a park basketball court, and now 3 years later we've had 2 block parties as well as litter pick ups, trash removal, and general mutual aid (and I'm now on the neighborhood association board). It's hard to make friends as an adult, so having a relationship with so many neighbors is mind blowing in such a divided country. A great album recommendation about isolationist surburbia is Read Music, Speak Spanish by Desaparacitos... A few songs still make me tear up even today, despite being Iraq war era protestations

[@LuckyChuck795]

The real thing that pains me about this clip, is how much ground is lost or conceded by leftist beholden to the idea that anyone that appears in the orbit of a Joe Rogan like figure is to be automatically written off as "stupid". Its time to stop throwing people into the garbage bin and allowing corporate influence to adopt them without serious engagement in discourse. Im sick of people being " pleasantly surprised" by the fact "unsophisticated people" largely understand what the fuck is happening to them. Stop trying to "win the argument" and talk to people as if they were human beings and not enemies. A message to the adults in the room. Michael Brooks I felt understood this deeply, as much as he would make fun of influential political and social figures, I still think he understood the importance of engaging in good faith. What a legacy to leave behind to build hope and solidarity REST IN PEACE Michael, here's to you King 👑

[@tsedubgyatso]

Amen 🎉

[@Slim_Ch4rles]

Well said. As a fellow Chuck I support this message

[@DaSkonk]

Well said, I couldn't agree more - there was far too much of a condescending tone and a patronising attitude pervading this entire video (as there also is with far too many others of a similar ilk) and all it does is alienates the very people you need to get onside. It's completely counterproductive. Also, RIP Michael B - your light, insight, humour and intellect are missed every damn day, brother. Big love!

[@SarastistheSerpent]

I really don’t think they’re stupid. More malicious frankly. I think they genuinely hold, well reasoned but pernicious views

[@danielx1224]

I have to say, the first clip played in this video has to be the longest, uninterrupted clip ever played on the Majority Report. Love you guys. Pause it!!

[@tylerhackner9731]

Based

[@jamesw4895]

You go Bernie. Get this info out there.

[@colbyjame]

Like Tupac, Jesse Ventura been saying there should not be a billionaire

[@rwalker5133]

GREAT show. The Majority Report crew are the best - from class consciousness to dishwasher revelations.

[@teugene5850]

I have come around to Theo... good hearted.

[@yam83]

It's always a pleasure seeing Bernie really cook, man.

[@logophile88]

Theo is a great dude who is always trying to learn new things and to better himself! Thanks for covering this

[@andaros8449]

One of many things I love about Bernie is how he's so down to earth that he can talk to anyone and relate to them on a genuine level.

[@user-pc3we6gf6j]

All good points, but you know what else is causing alienation? The knowledge that your government is still committing JEENASIDE.

[@xbabu142x]

Yep very true and the fact that Sharia law is mocked when Riba is one of it's core concepts kinda shows the alienation to me.

[@user-pc3we6gf6j]

​@@xbabu142x I think it is just Sharia, not "Sharia Law".

[@xbabu142x]

@@user-pc3we6gf6j Yes, sorry should have clarified am doing the association more for US readers. I had entire researchers in my field, which is mathematically related, in disbelief when I explained the history of Islam in regards to public education and math, in the late 2000s. There's no negative in me giving proper credit IRL, and as an academic first, always have to credit proper source. However, till even the earlier part of this year I'd see people just glaze over "Sharia" and even think I was making a joke when I stated "Sharia Law," good ole US propaganda on it's own people.

[@jamiemcmahon7707]

Rogan thinking he's one of the *best* comics is equivalent to billionaires thinking they know what wins elections

[@gillianinoz]

Thank god I live in Australia where the majority of prescription drugs are covered by the Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme - part of Medicare. No one pays more than $34.50 for ANY drug on the PBS - and pensioners and low income Aussies don’t pay more than $7.40. And guess what? Australia pays almost HALF the GDP per capita for Healthcare than the USA.

[@robbielopezmx]

2pac was so ahead of his time and had so much class conscience, and was an LGBTTIAQ+ ally, we lost so much, besides his art

[@Jack655321]

Theo is an alright dude, been following him for awhile. He also had Bassem Youssef on a couple of weeks ago. He's basically just a funny guy with out there takes but with his heart in the right place. Also not every comedian in the Roganverse is some unsympathetic asshole, Shane Gillis & Mark Normand for example are good dudes once you spend more than 2 minutes listening to them.

[@randomjunk1977]

Man, imagine if we'd gotten the good timeline and we were currently coming off the tail end of 8 years of Bernie as President.

[@brianwells3271]

The whole podcast is worth the watch. Honestly, brought me back to the radicalization energy. Also, please remember when talking to center right normies, that this is where to steer the conversation. Coming on too strong about lgbtq+ stuff will just make their eyes roll back and forth at the mouth. Meet them where they are at, shift them further left where you can. The move from right leaning apolitical normie to a leftist takes more than one conversation. No one was born a ML Chad lol

[@Escobart911]

I dont understand why they do a segment on someone if they are not informed. Why bother

[@Martinroadsguy]

Concerning billionaires and the ultra wealthy, I don't think it's necessarily that there needs to be a cap on how much a person can earn. If you write a book, or make music or movies that makes you millions upon millions of dollars, great. You deserve it. But billionaires make their billions by extracting wealth from workers and passive parasitic income.

[@TriggeredCulture]

nailed it!

[@Code_Dee]

I hear your argument regarding where the money comes from, but however someone makes their money we don't need billionaires walking around simply for the power imbalance - the potential damage it does to have someone rich enough to throw their weight around and shape society to their own ends regardless of democratic will or expertise. Sam Seder brings up this example a lot: how in the 2000's Bill and Melinda Gates used their wealth to lobby around the country and shape American education to what they thought it should be, but they're not education experts. Nevertheless they had the money, so the government listened to them instead of experts and the result was a disaster by every metric.

[@Martinroadsguy]

@@Code_Dee my point is that you're not going to make billions and gain that kind of power and influence simply creating or inventing something without exploiting workers. It isn't possible. Nothing and no one is naturally worth that much. If you write a book, like Bernie did, it's feasible to make millions from royalties if millions of people want to read it. Hundreds of millions or billions can only come from abuse, manipulation, and exploitation. That should be the focus of regulation. Not some dollar amount.

[@xbabu142x]

In a business I own I agree to a set salary and all my employees know each others and mine salaries. No one really needs hr at a small size under 500 employees even. Sometimes my employees will make way more than me but if you check the work done, they have worked way more than me too. I'm not sure when CEO bonuses started but excess money is supposed to be invested into the business or community surrounding that business morally and logically. Taking that money and doing anything else with it is the act of usury, in Islam they call it Riba, it is prohibited under Sharia law to ensure equity in commerce. It seems every religion over a thousand years has this one in different names but same severity. Yes even in Judaism, the older text of course. Look up the different concepts and see for yourself even. Every single religion past a 1000 years. Just fleshing out in real form through examples your very correct thinking. Only ones that don't have it are the ones with the cannibalistic rituals and Mormonism. Mormonism isn't old enough to decide if it's a bad idea I guess but the cannibalism causes Kuru and just like mad cow human version mad cow is incurable and fatal.

[@Code_Dee]

@@Martinroadsguy From a policy standpoint it's a lot easier to pick a dollar amount, then you don't have to get into the weeds of "did you come by this money by way of exploitation or not? Lets go to court and figure it out" it's just "hey how much money you got?". And for the sake of argument, like let's say it might be possible to become a billionaire without exploitation. Well they still shouldn't have so much money that they could subvert democracy; money is power and no one person should have that much of it.

[@yamyamyams2629]

Saying Theo Von is anti trans is just not true. I just watched a conversation between him and Stravos about the topic. It's tone was the exact opposite of hate.

[@SarastistheSerpent]

That is flatly not true. The guy will literally agree with whomever he is sitting across from. Look at the horrid stuff he said about trans people when he was sitting with Kid Rock. Hell, just last week Theo was on Twitter accusing Imane Khelif, a cis woman, of being “a man” and how we need to “ban men from women’s sports”. The guy is a bigoted. And it does no one and good to obfuscate and pretend he isn’t.

[@Because.I.Said.So.]

Bernie has more pep in his step than Trump, Biden and Kamala combined.

[@marccela2054]

Theo conducted a great interview with Bernie. I was blown away with his intelligent questions and sincere interest in what Bernie was saying. We need to see more of this.