I love these, I’ve done a few at railway shows and never got bored.-Das Mann
@SamsTrains3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely - I can't see myself getting bored of this either!! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@grahamtravis3 жыл бұрын
I had to smile when I saw this. I worked as a university technician back in the 1970s and one of the other technicians had built something like this in O gauge, on a table with lots of old GPO relays and strowger selectors underneath. He had wired it into a simple computer. You dialled in (on an old telephone dial) the truck numbers in the order you wanted them, flicked a switch, then with a lot of whirring and clicking it automatically solved this puzzle and drove a locomotive around and shunted the trucks into the correct order. The only issue was that the automatic decoupler didn't always work. So 50 years later, you have done what a 1970s machine using 19th century technology could do. :-D
@SamsTrains3 жыл бұрын
Oh wow that's absolutely incredible.... does the machine still exist today?!? Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@grahamtravis3 жыл бұрын
@@SamsTrains Very unlikely that it still exists. (I don't even know if the guy is still alive!) It was built as a demonstration of control engineering. It would be done with an arduino and a few power FETs nowadays. I will continue watching as long as you keep producing such interesting, entertaining and informative videos, Thanks
@grahamtravis3 жыл бұрын
@@SamsTrains I just read up on the Inglenook puzzle, and it dates back to 1979, so what I saw wasn't identical, but it was very, very similar. On open days, the technician would ask members of the audience to shout out numbers and he would dial them in then stand back while the machine did its thing, much to the amazement of everyone watching. It certainly fascinated me and yet I had an idea how it worked.
@DADeathinacan3 жыл бұрын
Ooh, a shunting puzzle. I need to build one of those someday...
@SamsTrains3 жыл бұрын
Yeahh!! Do it - it's so much fun! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@cec_oregon4 ай бұрын
Did u ever end up building this?
@DADeathinacan4 ай бұрын
sadly no. Finally got the cash, but now ive got no space, not even for something that fits on a piece of printer paper.
@John73John3 жыл бұрын
Here's how you could do it in fewer moves: 1. Take the 2 unwanted wagons from the main line and put them on the 2nd (empty) siding 2. Couple to the "4" and "3" wagons, move them to the 1st siding, and couple them to "2". 3. Bring 4, 3, and 2 onto the main line and couple them to 1. 4. Go back to the 1st siding and grab the unwanted wagon and wagon 5. Bring it onto the main line and couple to the already assembled 4/3/2/1. 5. You still have one unwanted wagon directly behind the loco, move it back to the siding and go back to your finished train on the mainline. (I'm really good at puzzles :))
@ruffian29523 жыл бұрын
I am a retired conductor and your solution is correct. On my railroad we had conductors and we had switchmen who were conductors who knew how to switch in economy of effort. Some conductors couldn't switch a flatcar out of a train of boxcars successfully. I was blessed with men who taught me to "look ahead" a few moves which contributed to my success as a switchman. Getting rid of those first two unwanted cars was critical. Nobody wants to see the same cars going back and forth. Get rid of the fat and attack the lean. I worked with a switchman early on who took the switching orders provided him at the start of the "trick" and went and had a few drinks as he analyzed the lists. He was a genius in my opinion. One last question. Are you married? If you are you have met the stumper of all puzzles as time will attest.
@SimplyTakuma3 жыл бұрын
Sam : "I have all five together in order!" Me: "Well, it should beginn from the locomotive side...." Sam : "Oh...."
@SamsTrains3 жыл бұрын
haha I guess it doesn't matter! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@grahambo-423 жыл бұрын
I was thinking something similar, but if the numbers are in the order of the drop offs going down a branch line, then the order (ascending or descending) would depend on the branch. First to drop on the end so they can just pull into a siding and uncouple the last car(s), or back onto a spur (either way. uncouple all the remaining cars, apply brakes, maneuver the cars down the spur, recouple to the rest of the train, continue on, or back the whole consist down the spur to drop the car(s) on the end.) I guess it would also depend on if there was a brake van or not.
@RWblox2 жыл бұрын
Same Lol.
@datguymiller3 жыл бұрын
The music and explosion! It got me
@SamsTrains3 жыл бұрын
haha I thought the video needed a bit of that ;) Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@andrewpalm21033 жыл бұрын
I've been working on a small HO Inglenook Sidings layout for the past several months. It is nearly complete and can be viewed on my Facebook page (just search my name). I've also written a browser program that can solve the puzzle using AI methods. For the 8 car version, every standard random start can be solved in 20 moves or less, but the bulk of them have solutions of 13 to 17 moves. Unfortunately, when I "wing it" on my own, my solutions can be a lot longer. There are other versions of the puzzle for 3 to 7 cars, with the siding capacities reduced, of course. Thanks so much for this video, Sam! Cheers from Wisconsin.
@SquidwardChat3 жыл бұрын
Oooo... definitely getting my mind racing. Time to set one of these up! I use OO gauge hook and chain couplings so this will be fun haha!
@SamsTrains3 жыл бұрын
Have fun - so enjoyable!! haha that certainly will be fun... good luck!! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@SheffieldNo14Productions3 жыл бұрын
It’s 1:17 AM here for me and I’m so happy I stayed awake long enough to see this early Side Note: I’m totally gonna try this virtually cause I don’t have model trains 😭
@SamsTrains3 жыл бұрын
haha awesome!! It'd be epic to try this in train simulator actually! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@SheffieldNo14Productions3 жыл бұрын
@@SamsTrains so I did end up trying it on my TRS19 and it was fun! Granted, the lines were slightly longer to allow trainz to change the points (it requires a certain distance for you to be able to switch points) but I didn’t cheat!
@cheesekay73143 жыл бұрын
@@SheffieldNo14Productions Nice Dude
@RWblox2 жыл бұрын
@@SheffieldNo14Productions Cool.
@RCassinello3 жыл бұрын
Sam: "I'm going to try something which I think is quite clever" Me: Headbutts table as Sam sandwiches 3 between 2 and 1 instead of just picking up 3 first, then 2... :)
@SamsTrains3 жыл бұрын
haha that's basically it, lol! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@ddragxn3 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see you doing these live! Maybe a new "section" or interlude like El Cheapo?
@SamsTrains3 жыл бұрын
I would too - it could definitely be fun!! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@MrBnsftrain3 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of a flash game I used to play as a kid called Railway Shunting Puzzle. But instead of wagons being numbered, you had to put each wagon of each design in its designated spot. An idea for a round 2 of this is to use the same wagons, but arrange them in alphabetical order by the name that is printed on the side. You would also try arranging them by size too.
@SamsTrains3 жыл бұрын
Ooh interesting - I used to play one called railway valley - that sounds great fun! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@StarWarsJay10 ай бұрын
Would it work like this…take a picture of each wagon. Stick them on cards and shuffle them. Deal them out, then you have to rearrange the wagons as they are on the cards.
@michaelschultz51273 жыл бұрын
I always enjoyed your shunting videos. It looks like you got yourself a puzzle and a half.
@SamsTrains3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much - yeah this one sure is!! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@sathyasmodelrailway2023 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video Sam. I began my first step into model railway today by assembling the tracks for an inglenook and your video of solving the puzzle was really useful :) Thank you.m
@HarryC_6403 жыл бұрын
Great work Sam! I would totally love to see more of these challenges. It makes you appreciate what it was like for people who worked in shunting yards. Their job was to literally solve the puzzle every day...under time pressure too!
@SamsTrains3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Harry - it does actually, that's very true! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@andrewguttry68863 жыл бұрын
So much fun! For an uncoupler I have used a short length of dowel with one end sanded to around 45 degees. Glue a small square of plasticard (ordinary card will do), to that end and it will swivel at the join and lift the couplers itself.
@musicalaebsrailways56153 жыл бұрын
I believe you could have saved some moves by changing your first few moves to: Move 1:Taking just the unnumbered cars and put them in the siding(without car 4 like you did) Take wagon 3 and 4 onto wagon 2 and take them to the main Move wagon 5 onto the train with its unmarked car, and continue as you did in video.
@SamsTrains3 жыл бұрын
Ahh very good thought... thanks for that! Like I say, terrible at puzzles! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@iandean71293 жыл бұрын
I loved this. My future layout will have a place for this for sure. I’ma try the 1 in front and 5 in the back though for the added challenge😂. Hope to see more of these
@SamsTrains3 жыл бұрын
Sounds great Ian - endless fun really! Good luck! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@PeterJewell23 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I think Sam cheated. Number one should have been next to the loco, which would have been a much bigger challenge! (However, I'm rather glad he did cheat: 14 minutes is quite long enough to watch someone else doing a puzzle!)
@daveday55073 жыл бұрын
There have been other videos on KZbin which intended to show the Inglenook puzzle. Your's is the first of seen which actually makes sense. Thank you.
@SamsTrains3 жыл бұрын
haha thanks Dave, that's very good to hear!! xD Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@EthansTrains3 жыл бұрын
I tried this once when I was younger and I got confused pretty quickly 😂
@SamsTrains3 жыл бұрын
haha yeah - I've done a bit of this in my own time, and it can get confusing!! xD Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@richardclowes61232 жыл бұрын
Hi Sam, I was routing for you all the way. Yea, turning them all round to be numbered the other way would be an epic adventure. Can we have more of this, every now and then please. Loved it.
@OlivierGabin3 жыл бұрын
I have a version of it on my smartphone, it is a very addictive game. And lots of modellers made scenic version of this puzzle, it's a classic. Excelent idea to show us your version, I love it !
@SamsTrains3 жыл бұрын
Oh wow - I'd love to try a digital version!! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@Breadstick7833 жыл бұрын
these videos are the best all these videos have inspired me to get back to model trains I can't wait to get HO gauge it seems the best I only have O gauge. thank you Sam you make the best videos
@SamsTrains3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much - that's lovely to hear!! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@ModelRailwaysUnlimited3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff Sam, I love shunting. Working with an experienced shunter, it was always amazing how they minimized the number of moves to carry out the required shunt
@SamsTrains3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot Mike - massive respect for them - no way I could ever be anything close to efficient! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@trainzdude33423 жыл бұрын
I love this, i think combining trains and puzzles is super fun. You should do some more!
@SamsTrains3 жыл бұрын
I think so too - crazy that I've never tried it before!! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@stephenjames49373 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised that you're only now getting around to operational running, Sam, though obviously, it's not for everyone. We all like different things about the hobby: some are in it for making scenery, others for just letting the trains run around a lovely big loop, and others devise timetables and detailed goods trains, and deliver specific wagons to certain types of industry. I'd certainly like to see more of this please, Sam, as shunting is the first thing I'd do on a layout of my own!
@leonardosouza62903 жыл бұрын
I just play with the names(ex. box, tank, flatbed, gondola etc...) this is way more challenging! Thanks Sam's trains!
@michaelschultz51273 жыл бұрын
I love the giant brakeman, you best give him a good raise in pay.
@SamsTrains3 жыл бұрын
haha I think he'd be happy with that! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@treaderz186 ай бұрын
Shunting wagons is my actual job for DB cargo in Kent. In general our longest road can handle 20 JNA/MLA (Falcons). Our shunt neck can handle 11 from the reception roads. Is a good puzzle some times but always have the option of a mainline shunt. Even if the signaler holds us waiting for passing trains
@allaboardwithkayos15453 жыл бұрын
Great video dude, this looks like a cool challenge to do. Shunting is always good fun and this just brings a whole new dynamic to it. Well done for bossing it first time around
@cadetkohr55083 жыл бұрын
This looks like a lot of fun, I would love to see more of these!
@GSD-hd1yh2 жыл бұрын
I have actually started to build a puzzle this week. My baseboard is constructed, and I have a coal mining theme in mind because I have an NCB Bellerophon on order. My father-in-law was an engineer for the Coal Board at Haydock, and actually repaired the engine and sometimes was allowed to drive it in the yard. The colliery branch had a road crossing with gates and a signal box which will be the subject of a second board sometime in the future.
@eddyweller45033 жыл бұрын
Yes Sam do more, I've made a shunting puzzle for the grandkids, it's a huge success loads of fun
@SamsTrains3 жыл бұрын
That sounds fantastic Eddy - great to hear it went down well! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@davidhinks83843 жыл бұрын
Who doesn't love a bit of shunting! still have my Hornby 0-4-0 no 27 from (ahem) 1975... Nice evocative session thanks Sam
@tiddles4x43 жыл бұрын
Welcome to the wonderful world of shunting puzzles and micro layouts. There is a 5 waggon version of Ingenook for a very small space. There are also some UK/US puzzles in a nice 8 by 2 foot shelf layout space. My current project is 5 by 1 foot and fits in my Japanese sports car, yet I can run my Big Boy on it! Sam give it a go and you will be a very happy man. If you do move house these layouts are easy to transport too.
@lapiswake65833 жыл бұрын
Cool video, I've built one in 00 and one in N, but I've hardly used them as a shunting puzzle, them usually just being display pieces. If you'd picked up wagon 3 from the first siding then picked up wagon 2 from the second, you could've done it a little quicker. An interesting challenge would be to upscale it to the scale of a marshalling yard, using a larger loco to shunt longer rakes of wagons around. But of course, not many modellers have space for that, and this type of layout was developed for small spaces with loads of operational interest.
@briancjohnson3 жыл бұрын
A thing Sam did not mention is that you can also play this with a 'fixed' setup, and count the number of 'moves' (couple, uncouple, direction change, and movement). Then you can compare your score (the lower the better) to others! Real life shunter/switchers want to be efficient! Next up, Sam takes on a Tymesaver (timesaver) shunting puzzle?! Let's hope!
@SamsTrains3 жыл бұрын
That's a great idea Brian - you could make it a bit more competitive with that! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@gerhardtaljaard37053 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid. So much fun to watch! Yes, please do more of them again!!
@SamsTrains3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!! Sure - I'll do more!! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@SushiDoge3 жыл бұрын
This was a fun and interesting video! Thanks for this Sam lol.
@SamsTrains3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much - glad you liked it!! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@EdwardsDayOut3 жыл бұрын
I love shunting puzzles. They make you feel like a real engine driver
@ruffian29523 жыл бұрын
American here. Respectfully, engine drivers have little concept of what switching cars entails. All they need to know is how to make engine movements at the direction of the train conductor. It is up to the conductor to make the switching "shell game" succeed. I know because I am a retired conductor.
@EdwardsDayOut3 жыл бұрын
@@ruffian2952 well, then it makes you feel like a real conductor
@ruffian29523 жыл бұрын
@@EdwardsDayOut Actually, lad, my statement is the result of the historical antagonism that has flourished between operating crafts since the golden spike was driven. My favorite answer to an enquiring engineman..." just take a motion ( hand motion conveying engine movement)". Teach them all they know but not all you know.
@aleopardstail3 жыл бұрын
its amazing how easy it is to include this into a larger layout and how it provides "something to do" while other trains circle. my own layout is getting similar but with Mk1 parcels coaches
@SamsTrains3 жыл бұрын
Very much so - I'm seeing them everywhere I look now I'm familiar with the challenge! That's excellent - great idea! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@kmanison3 жыл бұрын
I love Inglenook puzzles. I have a couple of Inglenook Apps on my phone, great when waiting in lines at the checkout! But I number my train wagons with #1 at the loco, so I think you got it the wrong way round. Anyway here's another challenge. After you have mastered 5 wagons, then move up to 6, 7, and finally 8 wagon trains. The trick is to marshal the last five wagons in the long siding, and then build the rest of the consist in one of the other sidings. Then join them. Can be done. I'd love to see you give it a try.
@SamsTrains3 жыл бұрын
Me too! I'll have to try one of those apps at some point! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@crsrdash-840b53 жыл бұрын
It's interesting that UK calls it shunting and in North American its called switching. Also, both methods are totally different. My understanding of shunting is to shove and bump cars into the proper tracks (the reason for the buffer plates). Switching involves 'placing' or spotting the cars at their locations to prevent damage to cars and goods inside. While wagons see to be between 24-34 feet in length, most cars in North America range from the rare 40 ft to the standard 50ft to 89ft (depending on car type from box, flat, gondola, tank, or hopper).
@SniartekilI3 жыл бұрын
From the starting position, I would get wagons 4 and 5 (The original numbers), put them on the empty siding, get 2 and 3, couple them up to 8 put them on the "Mainline" and then get 7 and 6 and put 6 on the mainline and 7 back (I hope i didnt mess up) And put the website in the description pls
@SamsTrains3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Thanks for sharing - sounds good!! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@Gondarth3 жыл бұрын
This reminds me of 3D Ultra Train Town Deluxe. There are several anagram puzzles in that. It is quite literally several trains of hoppers or boxcars, each containing a letter, and you have to use the Diesel shunters, sidings, turntables, whatever, to rearrange the cars, and find the correct word in the time limit.
@SamsTrains3 жыл бұрын
Ahh that sounds fantastic - I'll have to try that too! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@theangelsmodellingandrailways3 жыл бұрын
That's what my lil layout is totally based on, got one extra siding though. It's a great thing to do for long periods. Moving loco at slow speeds, and having the other wagons placed on an odds/even mix when returning to sidings when your finished puzzle. It should be a success for your channel, once you start looking into the variations. All the best. Brian @ The Angels.
@cheesekay73143 жыл бұрын
This is amazing, I do this challenge sometimes and I usually just finish in 2 hours!! (But I do use 27 wagons on 5 sidings)
@SamsTrains3 жыл бұрын
Oh wow!! That sounds way more challenging!! xD Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@sirrliv3 жыл бұрын
Suggestion: Reverse your number choosing process; Number wagons 1-8 first, then draw numbers from the mug to create the order for your train. Also, I feel it should read from right to left, counting up rather than down, so the first wagon is the one nearest the points rather than the buffers. This was overall very enjoyable! I do hope you do more of these from time to time. Maybe even look into more complicated shunting challenge layouts like Timesaver. And gods, can you imagine doing this as a livestream where the chat controls the train? Twitch Plays Inglenook! Brilliant!
@SamsTrains3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for the suggestion - glad you enjoyed it too! I will definitely look into the Timesaver! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@ricktownend91443 жыл бұрын
Great idea! - very watchable; please do some more. I remember in 1950s a Rupert Bear annual had a puzzle, centred around a 'Y' (i.e. three points with short curves making a triangle. Leading from the three points of the triangle are one short siding (room for an 0-4-0 engine and a truck, or 2 trucks) and two long ends (representing the 'main line') on each of which is a train (engine + 3 trucks) facing each other. The puzzle is how to get the two trains past each other and facing away from the Y. That was in the days of clockwork trains - it may be more difficult to wire up a 'Y' for 2-rail, and you might have to use DCC to control each engine separately!
@muir80093 жыл бұрын
I've seen that puzzle (and variations thereof) and oval puzzles etc published in 80 to 90 year old magazines, using 3 rail, obviously (like clockwork) obviating any need for special wiring. well spotted :)
@rockingtherails12613 жыл бұрын
I would love to see you do more of these they are very entertaining and mind-boggling at the same time. Also quoted from season 12 episode one (peckit on the points). Lol. Absolutely great episode keep up the good work
@SamsTrains3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Stewart - yeah definitely a little bit mind-boggling!! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@greghilton77973 жыл бұрын
Who wants to be a top line driver when shunting exercises are so much fun. Please do more Sam. Cheers
@SamsTrains3 жыл бұрын
haha exactly!! Thanks a lot Greg! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@atlasthenumber5msr4403 жыл бұрын
Duck: i am a better shunter Peket: shunt better Duck: :[
@SamsTrains3 жыл бұрын
haha!! xD
@LleshGordon21223 жыл бұрын
You love it these are pretty good a characters hornby wagons is actually altogether.
@michaelcunneen26653 жыл бұрын
I am impressed that the loco ran across the points without stalling. Wish my small engines would do that.
@louisbuscarino73303 жыл бұрын
You never let me down with your great videos I really like this video. Great job!
@SamsTrains3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much - that's lovely to hear! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@talesfromsodor3 жыл бұрын
Yes, do it again-this was brilliant! Do it with Thomas characters and rolling stock! Do it in train simulator! Incorporate the sidings on your main layout and have a larger engine take the newly assembled train away! The possibilities are endless!
@SamsTrains3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much - a Thomas version would be epic! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@Doritune.rcdrift3 жыл бұрын
I’ve started to build a shunting puzzle layout for indoors... having a full loop in my house isn’t an option for me right now and the loop for in the summer house is too cold in the winter months... I’ve done months of testing and planning and the layout is exactly what I want... easy to store, fun and light.. just getting started on the scenery but I’d recommend to anyone... you can have hours of fun on a couple Of feet of track great vid sam 👍
@masterofsouthern54273 жыл бұрын
I didn’t know there is such challenge called inglenook. Brilliant video mate 🙂
@SamsTrains3 жыл бұрын
Ahh fantastic - something new for you then! Thank you - glad you liked it! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@alanthorne39213 жыл бұрын
Never knew about this until I read about this in the March issue of Model Railroader.I love puzzles(much to the frustration of my missus,she has no patience)and of course model trains(even more frustration from the missus).So after watching your vid I am going to give it a go
@SamsTrains3 жыл бұрын
Ahh fantastic Alan - definitely give it a go, it's great fun! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@lukebarber95113 жыл бұрын
Have you ever heard of the Timesaver puzzle? That's the most popular model train puzzle among American modellers.
@SamsTrains3 жыл бұрын
I've only heard of it today for the first time - will definitely look it up! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@PaulinesPastimes3 жыл бұрын
Great fun. It's all part of model train enjoyment and nice to see the 0-4-0 doing what it was designed to do. You could loose hours! 😊👍
@RiliansMusic3 жыл бұрын
That was super cool Sam, Can't wait for more!
@SamsTrains3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much!! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@trainspotharv22083 жыл бұрын
This is amazing. If you want to twist it up you could do it in the section of track under the table you do trucks and coaches or Evan make that shunting chalice layout Even bigger and have 1 rake of coaches and one rake of wagons.
@nameless54133 жыл бұрын
Pretty reasonable way to have railway fun. How about - left side 8 space (+locomotive) 8 tracks each with 3 wagons (except one which has to be completely void of anything just so that you have room to solve things), but only 4 spaces available Just to have added complexity.
@thehobbyistden37203 жыл бұрын
I always wanted to try shunting puzzles, think I'll set up some track as its a rainy day and all and give it a whirl. I'll film it too and share the disaster lol.
@SamsTrains3 жыл бұрын
Me too - it's 100% worth doing, trust me! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@soerenwizard3 жыл бұрын
Switching puzzles are great. Good to incorporate in your regular layout.
@antoinebesnehard3 жыл бұрын
Nice, Sam. Just one little detail : in the Inglenook puzzle, wagon #1 should be the first one immediately after the locomotive, followed by #2 etc with wagon #5 at the tail of the train. I have an Inglenook myself wit a Southern GE44t switcher and Norfolk and Western 40' boxcars. Nice game :-)
@duck19463 жыл бұрын
Good one Sam,shows that you can have an interesting operation in a small space, mine is HO North American on a 4x1 base fully sceniced, i have added a kick back siding for scenic effect on the mainlne end ,i station my switcher on it, it has no other use .I use 35ft hoppers and 40ft box cars and can only accomodate 5 of them and hand operated points with KD couplers, it can eaily waste 20 mins of my time!!! I also have another one 7ft long by 8 inch wide built out of scrap materials fully sceniced and this will hold 11 cars at max!! There is a US layout on YT which is 14ft x 1ft its a 3 siding true Inglnook,looks simple but services industrial buildings with a variety of rolling stock,the fun is the puzzle plus spotting the cars at the correct doors, loads in empty out. be prepared to be amazed!!!!
@paulnicoll17913 жыл бұрын
Years ago I operated a large N gauge exhibition layout and dispite the full seanery I incorporated one of these into the layout. I had a gauge master handheld controller on a 16 foot lead so children could use it from the 'public /viewing side' they loved it. Also using the same controller I was able at times allow children to drive the trains themselves. The kids were made up
@GalahadLazuli3 жыл бұрын
There's nothing I love more on a model rail layout than shunting. It's even better with digital control, using decoupler tracks and digital couplings! So worth it. Are there digital couplings available for the hook and loop couplers you have? You should look into that someday.
@allenshelly62723 жыл бұрын
Awesome ... I have to do this with my America Flyers Definitely more of these on the program
@SamsTrains3 жыл бұрын
Awesome!! And sure - more coming soon! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@gregmacdonald9273 жыл бұрын
Sam, you have been reading my mind! After moonlighting at a rival model train You-tuber (sorry!) I got interested in the idea, so am midway through building a small Inglenook-friendly industrial layout. Really enjoyed watching your experience and obvious enthusiasm. Def do more! As an aside, would the HM6000 not be ideal for this sort of thing? Maybe hunts couplings too. Keep it up!
@SamsTrains3 жыл бұрын
haha thanks Greg - that sounds awesome - hope you have fun with it! Sure, the HM6000 would be grand for this - very good thought! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@bow-tiedengineer44533 жыл бұрын
inverting the numbers would be fairly easy, actually. Move 3, 4, 5 to the middle siding, grab 1 and 2, move 5 to the bottom, move 4 to the bottom, move 3 to the bottom, drop 1 off in the middle siding, move 2 to the bottom, move 1 to the bottom, done.
@richardserridge27673 жыл бұрын
Glad you used an 0-4-0. They are made for the job! Hoping to build a siding layout based on my local (now closed) industrial railway. This would be a good challenge 🤔 They used andrew Barclay saddle tanks til the 1950s. Another great video!
@SamsTrains3 жыл бұрын
Yeah absolutely - worked surprisingly well on those points! I'd love to do this with an Andrew barclay some time! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@sturmtigerking42633 жыл бұрын
Ooh a different video. Great video. I liked this one actually. I could try one of these. "Get you guys to submit instructions" famous last words
@SamsTrains3 жыл бұрын
haha I know... definitely a bad idea, but still a fun one! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@lewiscartwright36093 жыл бұрын
Hi Sam today I have Double headed my Mainline 4mt with my Hornby 0-6-0 cadley hill colliery cadley hill No.1 and I couple 3 mk1 coaches and BR Blue and Grey Mail coach and then a triang Hornby BR maroon mk1 Full brake coach and to form "The Shropshire pioneer Express" and the Shropshire pioneer Express can either be pulled by a Diesel locomotive and or by a Steam locomotive but today's service is pulled by Steam because My Diesel locomotives have entered a permanent retirement so they can Sit Back and relax and I am planning on getting a Lima Class 50 50 020 "Revenge" and a Lima Class 55 Deltic "Fife and Fortar Yeomanry"
@chrishines60483 жыл бұрын
I love puzzles and I enjoyed watching that and I would like to see more
@SamsTrains3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Chris - I'll try to do more!! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@poshingtonno11573 жыл бұрын
Great video idea, I love inglenooks. I find adding a few wagons of different lengths can make it significantly harder and it once took me an hour and a half to complete when I limited the length of the headshunt to only 2 wagons.
@williamkoch99773 жыл бұрын
Yes, do more. For increased challenge you can make up a train of 6, 7, or 8 wagons rather than 5.
@ruffian29523 жыл бұрын
Well, Bill. I thought you preferred America's Cup sailing.
@alanswallow90333 жыл бұрын
Good wee exercise! I would have thought that no. 1 would be the first wagon behind the locomotive, as in left to right but makes no difference for the exercise. Back in the 80s I used assign numbers to wagons and use the same amount of playing cards shuffle them then deal out the random cards for the train order maximum was 10
@PebProductions463 жыл бұрын
I love this! I might have to give this a try myself, though I'll have to dismantle my layout to get some switches.
@SamsTrains3 жыл бұрын
Awesome! I'd highly recommend it - genuinely so much fun! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@PaulSmith-pl7fo3 жыл бұрын
Hi Sam. Well done! I must say, at first I thought that you had all the wagons in the reverse order at the - if in doubt, read the instructions! Next time, maybe have more wagons in the mix (you'll need a larger layout, though).
@EsotericArctos3 жыл бұрын
Shunting is something you either love or loathe. I don't think there is any middle ground. I think it is fun though. Definitely be a good live challenge. Shunting the Egg Vans could be fun, maybe using your little Terrier that always likes to behave in it's own way :)
@SamsTrains3 жыл бұрын
haha I guess I love it then - very much so! Would be a grand live challenge too! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@eugeniomarins29363 жыл бұрын
Dear Sir, I have perused through most of the comments and saw no mention of the theoretical aspects behind this excellent game. Me weak maths tells me that you could play it an astronomical number of times without ever repeating a configuration. Combinatorial problems are so hard to solve that people usually employ heuristic methods to obtain "ok" or "good" solutions. So, if this is your cuppa ('your beach," in Rio's Portuguese), small space, endless fun! Cheers from Brazil! Edit: Compare it to the "Tower of Hanoi" problem, i do not know if they are isomorphic, but there are similarities, for sure.
@RamsFan933 жыл бұрын
Ay up Sam! I love this video, I'm going to try this challenge myself when I get home! Probably do it with my Terrier
@SamsTrains3 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much! That sounds awesome - have fun! Would work great with a Terrier! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@bentullett60683 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed that may look into creating one of these for the large collection of small shunting loco's I seem to be getting in the collection. Extra challenge should be the guards van needs to be included in it and must be put on the end of the wagon train first.
@thesudrianfemboy3 жыл бұрын
I can solve the inglenook at the beginning, and can explain how. Step 1 - Couple to Trucks 5 and 4 and shunt them to the far siding, Leave them there and move back to the front of the line. Step 2 - Couple to Trucks 3 and 2, pull them out and couple them to Truck 8 Step 3 - Pull Trucks 3, 2 and 8 out of the siding and couple them to Truck 1 and leave them. Step 4 - Pull Trucks 7 and 6 out of the middle siding and couple Truck 6 to Trucks 3, 2, 8 and 1, Leave these trucks on the main. Step 5 - Pull Truck 7 away from the other trucks and couple them to Trucks 5 and 4, Shunt Trucks 7, 5 and 4 into the Middle Siding.
@SamsTrains3 жыл бұрын
Wow sounds great - reckon that's a lot simpler than my method! xD Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@michaelschultz51273 жыл бұрын
I like those puzzles, but I like regular shunting instead.
@victorgoncalves24423 жыл бұрын
Very nice ,, well done . Really fun , puts your brain to work .
@boblawrence50112 жыл бұрын
Hi, I’ve been playing around with inglenooks for a while now and in the process of upgrading points. Have been going over the rules and looking more in depth of solutions and strategies as shown in the rules. I always thought the finished rake of wagons had to be in the longest length of track but the rake shown in the solutions and strategies, although in the correct order and can be taken away they are not in the longest length of track and cannot be fitted into it. Can you tell me if it is sufficient to get the wagons in the correct order or if they need to be in the correct order and in the longest length of track.
@jvbndofvbnebe3 жыл бұрын
shunting puzzles are really nice, you don't need much, but you can have lot's of fun with those
@SamsTrains3 жыл бұрын
They are great fun - I loved this one!! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@pedalcarguy3 жыл бұрын
Lovely! Will definitely try this out myself. Thank you, Sam! 😊 👍
@SamsTrains3 жыл бұрын
Sounds awesome - good luck!!! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@someguy27413 жыл бұрын
You need to set up a "hump". Much more efficient :p set your switches and cut each car loose and gravity it to the appropriate track. Not sure if they use them where you are. The yard has a large hill and the guy has his shunter push the train to be sorted. He has an electronic board that tells him to let loose 1 or two or 4 cars. The shunter pushes the train, guy at the cars decouplesthe correct number and those cars roll by gravity and lets them run away to the waiting trains on separate lines at the bottom of the hill.
@SamsTrains3 жыл бұрын
haha great idea - I'd love a layout designed like that one day! I think they did use those in the UK - pretty sure! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@sirhilsam3 жыл бұрын
My head hurts🤣 Looks like so much fun.
@SamsTrains3 жыл бұрын
haha sorry about that! It is great fun though!! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@locohauledforum3 жыл бұрын
I watched you draw the numbers out and thought - EASIEST Inglenook challenge ever! Next time lets hope the Inglenook gods are feeling a little more devilish!! LOL
@SamsTrains3 жыл бұрын
haha yeah - it was a perfect setup for a beginner?? Hopefully it'll be a real challenge if I do this again! ;D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@davidjackson93173 жыл бұрын
You should try the "Timesaver" next. Very challenging!
@SamsTrains3 жыл бұрын
I've heard about that!! Where did it get that name?! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@matthewneleigh5673 жыл бұрын
@@SamsTrains It can be run competitively with the solution requiring the least time being the winner. Or at least that's how I've seen it done- in that case everyone starts with the same initial setup, of course.
@raymondsommerfeldt7693 жыл бұрын
You should try John Allen's Timesaver. It's an American shunting puzzle. I think that you should be able to find the plans and rules online .
@SamsTrains3 жыл бұрын
I'm hearing a lot about that today - sounds well worth a try! :D Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@teamsoap1013 жыл бұрын
Great stuff Sam! but I think its about time you should try making a scenic model layout using the inglenook track plan you could easily support it between the joists like your table, now that would be a real challenge!
@SamsTrains3 жыл бұрын
Maybe you're right - it is an ideal size for a mini layout! Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@johngibson46413 жыл бұрын
Hey Sam ,, you should do a loose shunting without touching the trains with no part of your body (obviously do it with horby uncouplers) after and before the points to be uncoupled. Cheers from John in Australia.