Samsung Galaxy Book5 Pro 360 REVIEW - What Could've Been...

[@nexxsam]

glad to see you review this, honestly Samsung's horrible laptop pricing results in their laptops always being on sale in the UK 😭😭

[@VladdyDaddy369]

Yeah same in the US. They always seem to drop by $400-500 in just a handful of weeks after being released. And that's when they are actually priced accurately because we really are looking at about a $1,200 laptop at best.... That comically oversized trackpad is just horrendous.

[@rafaelperez9652]

You're so right Andrew. A lot of missed opportunities here with the Samsung Galaxy Book5 Pro 360 and yet I'm not surprised? It's just Samsung being Samsung. No Haptic TouchPad, the fact that you only get 16GB of soldered RAM and no option to even upgrade to 32GB during the ordering process is really unacceptable! Also, why are they still using SSD from a third party manufacturer with slow speeds instead of their own? The Webcam, internal mics and speaker quality are good but if this is all you get for the price and nothing else, I would definitely skip Samsung as there are better options out there in my opinion. Awesome Andrew!! 👏😁

[@jdupons]

i would really like to know what are the " better options " you mention ! because these just don't exist !

[@rafaelperez9652]

⁠@@jdupons Apparently you haven’t been doing much research. There are other PC manufacturers out there such as Asus and Lenovo which will give you better options than Samsung ever could in my opinion. If you are new to this channel I’d recommend you watch Andrew’s videos so you can get yourself acquainted with the competition.

[@JJ-cq6hu]

RAM is not upgradable in Lunar Lake PCs because the RAM comes within the Lunar Lake Chip by Intel. Not Samsung's fault.

[@ruzaroos]

@@JJ-cq6hu Exactly and we have no idea what Intel is charging for the CPUs with 32GB of RAM. The price may break Samsung's economics for this product. One day people will understand that $1699 for Samsung is for suckers who don't wait for it to be sold for $1299 or $1399 a month later. I saw the Galaxy Book 4 Edge for $899 at Best Buy a couple of weeks ago and that launched at $1349 this summer. Lenovo, LG, and Samsung prices are to give you an illusion of a discount when the product is marked down to the price they intended all along.

[@lisamarkelova7457]

What would you recommend getting instead??? Not asking in offense, I just need a new laptop asap and I have looked around- hp, Lenovo, and Microsoft are so expensive... Which model would you recommend?

[@yeyoeddy]

Love how you call these companies out. If they are going to ask for a lot of money put all the hardware tha represents the value of what ypu are asking. Thank you sir for communicating what others do not.

[@andrewmarcdavid]

Thanks, appreciate it.

[@cuz129]

I'm a Samsung ecosystem junkie, so I'm getting this for my birthday next month. But your analysis was very helpful. It's so very Samsung to not fix easily fixed issues in their products. Awesome review!

[@andrewmarcdavid]

Thanks!

[@JUICEbaseball]

It's the same shit I said the last 5 years... Samsung's "PRO" model has Windows 11 Home on it - NOT "PRO". Samsung's "PRO" model has only a 16GB option. As a 30+ year Graphic Designer running Adobe products, this is the killing stroke for me, and that's why I will always choose Dell or Lenovo over Samsung, eventhough I would love to use the S-Pen, but all 3 companies use Wacom technology with their Styluses, so it's not that big of a deal. That god-awful 1/2" chin on the bottom of their screen is so much of a design error it's almost unfathomable. This is supposed to be a machine that appeals to "PRO" creatives, yet it's so much NOT a "PRO" device that it's comical... Marc, you've pointed out many things over the years about the trackpad, and the SSD, too... I'm Samsung user too with a Tab S8 Ultra, an S23 Ultra, a Galaxy Wear OS watch, Samsung monitors and TV's all over my house as well. It's disappointing that this mega-brand just obviously will never do Windows Computers right. Just insane.

[@antonulybin389]

I love your reviews and the consistency of them. I have a couple of suggestions, if you don’t mind. Most modern styluses now have 4,000 levels of pressure or more, so repeating that in every review feels a bit redundant. What’s more important is the technology behind them. For example, Microsoft Surface and some other devices, like the Asus ProArt convertible, use the MPP pen protocol, which is fine for note-taking, but no serious digital artist would rely on it. On the other hand, Samsung uses Wacom’s EMR pen technology in their devices, which offers superb line quality, on par with or even better than Apple’s protocol. I think this nuance is worth noting in future reviews. Unless Microsoft improves their MPP, their devices are suboptimal for serious digital art. Another suggestion is to replace or complement the GTA V benchmark with benchmarks for Cyberpunk 2077 and Red Dead Redemption 2, and maybe Wukong. These would provide more relevant and representative information. GTA V is good and popular game, but it's pretty old now. It is playable even on Android devices via emulation.

[@SkiKat-USA]

Andrew, I really appreciate this review and the detail you give. You really cover all the bases. I saw one of these yesterday on a Black Friday sale for $1250, so I might make the leap. -- A New Subscriber!

[@andrewmarcdavid]

@@SkiKat-USA glad to help

[@scottdpeterstv]

I wish Samsung would make an Ultra version of the 360 with a dGPU and 32gb of memory with a 2nd ssd slot. Could be the ultimate creator laptop..

[@ilkerYT]

9:25 They could have easily putted a 80wh+ battery there,but did'nt choosed to do it :D

[@Slavix7]

+ they have a lot of space for 2-nd ssd slot, at least for M.2 2230, come on @Samsung.. shame on you

[@Best0fBritish]

Its' probably why the 32GB ram option is missing. It would have increased the power draw by around 40% (Source on the power-uplift: Intel)

[@ismaelrivera1999]

Once again thanks for your review. Which will you choose between an LG gram 16 “ 2-1 and this Samsung book 5 360.

[@speciala7826]

the big bezel on the display bottom is as same big as on edge, pro, ultra ( Gen.4). It's a deliberate hack to put the display more at eye level.

[@andrewmarcdavid]

Ok, thanks for the info.

[@DogeFrom2014]

I appreciate your take on this. This is precisely how I feel about the Book5 Pro 360 as well, but for me it's more the fact that there really isn't much change compared to the last two generations. There is no significant change in performance, no improvements made in the display, no changes in the design (to make it more ergonomic). Absolutely nothing. Do you have any idea how long I've been waiting for a worthy successor to my Book3 Pro 360? Too damn long! The Book4 Pro 360 wasn't it, and now the Book5 Pro 360 STILL isn't it. What the frick Samsung. I ended up returning my Book3 Pro 360 due to poor QC on my unit, as well as other quibbles like the razor sharp sides that dig into your arms.

[@timeisup9400]

i am a BIG fan of samsung but i noticed that they are kind of going off the rails lately...

[@arvandvarahram]

I fully agree that a 32GB option is actually a must have. Regarding the haptic feedback: sorry Andrew, but there is no need for it simply because you can do everything including drag&drop without clicking. And if you don't click, you won't need a haptic feedback. The main problem with the touchpad is its position which is the main reason why I would not buy this notebook.

[@yadindominguez1027]

Andrew I think that step by step we are moving the overton window with respect to laptops, although Apple has had it for a long time, which is to sell us expensive products that are not top top in all their specifications.

[@Vshashank]

Agreed should have come with 32GB ram. Also they could have put a 1440p IR camera, small things but they all matter at the end.

[@williamcohen3351]

Nice pc. Camera and mics and speakers are good. Very good display. Agree with you about the keyboard. If they ever redesign their keyboard they should improve the key travel and also the numpad layout or remove it as it is functionally useless in this iteration. Port selection is good. Nice to see an sd card slot as most other manufacturers do not include it on their newer models. Also agree for this price to put in a faster ssd card and haptic touchpad. What are these manufacturers thinking when designing these products? Thank you for another great review.

[@akin242002]

So much potential and opportunities lost by Samsung, especially for the photography and UX/UI audience it tries to appeal towards. Things that needed to be fixed: - Make 32GB option available. - Use their own SSD chips. Either 980 Pro or 990 Pro. - Add back the face ID login. - Bring the price down to $1,500 with 32 GB of RAM.

[@andrewmarcdavid]

Well said.

[@bobzhu8528]

Another great review. I agree with you on many of your opinions. Removed this model from my list.

[@romainb2267]

I've had problem with it within 8 days after delivery, my pc doesn't detect the mic of my paired Buds 3 pro and shut off during a Google Meet call. I had a blinking blue light that I don't know what it is and the pc didn't even want to start. Now it's starting but it's slow and never want to shut down... Moreover I'm a student and use Samsung note and I had a lot of freezes in the app, didn' t see the 120htz it was so laggy idk if it's my unit. So I asked for a free replacement. Glad I saw the issues within the 14 days to return + in Europe the 512 GB model was 2100 euros lol, I hope the new one they send me will be a bit better I regret not buying a Macbook Air M3 but I never had apple products before

[@lionelb8227]

Samsung thinking they're Apple while calling everything Galaxy to ask for this much money...

[@SaifEye]

something said very honestly, thanks

[@panathaninf]

So true, many years now every now and then I receive a corporate email with huge discounts for Samsung Laptops. I have never found any Samsung laptop even remotely acceptable even with discounts.

[@RassamFanan]

I always have second thoughts and hesitation when it comes to Samsung, the only concept I like is the trade-in opportunity with a decent amount which, other manufacturers doesn’t do except Apple. I guess this is much of a tablet turned into a laptop. Thank you for this comprehensive review.

[@Burbanana]

Thanks Andrew, will you be getting the XPS 13 Lunar Lake into the studio soon? I think the battery on that will make it either amazing or horrible lol (high res display)

[@andrewmarcdavid]

I just received it. Review coming soon

[@Burbanana]

@@andrewmarcdavid Im not even surprised anymore man, you're on a roll

[@crazyelf1]

Thanks for telling the truth. As you noted, no haptic touchpad is a really big disappointment. I think that they are trying to force people to buy the Galaxy Ultra line by limiting the RAM. They want to force everyone who wants more RAM to buy the top model. For key travel, I would say at least 1.8mm is optimal and ideally over 2.0mm. I'm not fond of these thinner keyboards.

[@jrnathan4709]

You should do a review on the best 2 in 1 laptops

[@jrnathan4709]

I don’t know if I should get the hp spectre x360 or the zenbook 14. I’m looking for a 2 in 1 laptop reliable and who offers me a lil bit of gaming. Keep doing what ur doing mannn all the way frm 🇨🇦 Montreal

[@karolm.4783]

Hope we will see more review 14 inch laptops with AMD ryzen 9 hx 370.

[@jamice4u]

If they gave you 32 GB for the same price, it would have made it more worth it.

[@snkcorp.502]

13:51 here you can see: same anti reflective display as on the Galaxy Book 4 Pro/Edge/Ultra. = Corning Gorilla Glass with DX

[@DJ_CRIZP]

A mac air 15" with 16GB of RAM and 1TB of storage is 200 dollars more than this. I agree that this should have been 32GB (at the same price point) and would have been perfect. But you gotta also call out Apple of their similar seedy practices. Just sayin.

[@averywilson9536]

Which laptop would you recommend that's not apple ? The one with all the bells and whistles and you'll use personally? Unless you only use Mac Books...

[@morm2173]

Which is better for gaming this one book 5 pro 360 or book 4 ultra?

[@andrewmarcdavid]

Book4 ultra as it has a discrete GPU

[@morm2173]

@@andrewmarcdavid Nvidia graphics card

[@SPGOficial]

​@@morm2173Yes, I was thinking about the book5 pro 360 but the 16gb of RAM makes me very doubtful. We'll have to wait to see if there is an improved version with 32 of RAM.

[@MarkWill890]

I moved to the Book series a couple of years ago, but the 16gb was a compromise I couldn't accept, for my own use cases. Truth be told, I was surprised the lack of a 32Gb option wasn't emphasized more in your earlier reviews Andrew (merely acknowledged in comments). Thankfully, you seem to be in agreement now that, for some users at least, it's a showstopper. I moved off the Book series after the Book 3. 100% because of the lack of a 32Gb option (and not wanting to pretty much double the price, with an Ultra). I now use an ASUS Duo, which has a 32Gb option and the integrated two screens have totally changed the way I work. In short, for me Samsung blew it, just because of a false desire to upsell me to an Ultra.

[@ilkerYT]

I dont understand the choices that Samsung made, Why would you put 16gb of ram in a 1700 USD laptop without an gpu besides IGPU I guess they really trust their brand name and logo to sell this device its like all the random clueless people buying a macbook air just because its a macbook and they dont even know if its gonna run the apps that they will throw at it

[@Gravage]

It's like they just keep cranking out the same product and swapping the processor. All of the same misses as the Snapdragon version. They had an opportunity here and they missed it. At least the Snapdragon was priced a little more competitively.

[@pixelpusher1393]

This is really strange, because if memory serves right, a 32gb version was already announced by Samsung. If Samsung doesn´t offer a 32gb version at some point later, it would be a clear no-go for this generation, and an endorsement for last year´s generation.

[@amigosan]

love your reviews, and love that you say everything you wanna say, honesty makes the difference was really awaiting this review 16gb ram... a real, real real big shame keep up the good work

[@andrewmarcdavid]

@@amigosan thanks. 🙏

[@Ninja_Samurai-dd3kq]

Very expensive, poor ports selection, no IR camera, 16gb ram only? Samsung is the worst company that never listens to customers' feedback. Not using samsung's own SSD shows Samsung is not confident about their own products.

[@zeuronplana8541]

Mostly laptop not the phones n tablets

[@sydguitar99]

I don't get how samsung still has such a thick chin bezel in 2024 when so many manufacturers have been able to figure out how to have a uniform thin bezel

[@aaaryan_goel]

Help the posture maybe

[@headcrab4090]

Who decided that ultra thin is the ultimate goal for a laptop design? The only parametre when doing compromise on everything else?

[@m.r.a.2460]

So, I need a laptop for schoolwork. I have a Galaxy phone and earbuds. If I can purchase this device for around $1100 with cashbacks and other perks, should I choose this or the Asus Vivobook 14 S that is $640 (which you recently reviewed) and has a Lunar Lake CPU like this one?

[@chrishamilton1189]

Can you do a comparison to the Book 4 Edge ??

[@andrewmarcdavid]

I can

[@dermoderator6463]

Alright, but could I change the M.2 cant I ?

[@SenselInc]

+1 for haptic touchpad being a big miss for a premium laptop at this price point

[@andrewmarcdavid]

Samsung needs to get in touch with you pronto.

[@ahmad8599]

Bro i just bought the 4 pro 360 before 4 month. How often do they come out with new ones

[@Snarkyafterthoughts]

Yeah, saying something is a "Creator Laptop" when it only has 16 gigs is hilarious. Windows alone still needs 8gb to function properly.

[@cordovanhobbyist895]

16GB RAM for $1699. PASS! Samsung charges more than ASUS.

[@RassamFanan]

Thanks!

[@andrewmarcdavid]

Thanks so much for the support!

[@tridib-nagaon]

In India too Samsung laptops are too pricey. Even a basic Intel U processor powered Book 4 with IPS panel costs 1000 dollars 💵. This is ridiculous. I urge Samsung to price their laptops reasonably.

[@janiwr.m9068]

i got myself the galaxy book 4 pro 360 and i dont know if i should bring it back to get a macbook. samsung couldve done much more for the price

[@Nate-zy5ce]

Do you know, will there be a Galaxy Book5 Ultra, and how will it compare to this?

[@andrewmarcdavid]

Nothing yet, but once it is announced I will review and compare it of course.

[@Nate-zy5ce]

@@andrewmarcdavid Sounds great. I'll look forward to that. Am planning to buy a new Galaxy S25 Ultra early 2025. I also need a new laptop to replace my now old Dell XPS 17. Was planning on getting the new XPS 16, but it's not perfect none are, so am thinking if one of the Book5's nails close enough there might be an advantage to have a Galaxy phone and a Galaxy Book5. I like the tent capability of the Book5 Pro 360, but am hoping the Ultra might have even better specs. I just love smaller form factor of the XPS's, tiniest bezels all the way round, so still considering it, just want to go all Galaxy if it's good enough, maybe even better than the XPS 16.

[@chrishamilton1189]

Why does anybody care about pressing a key and it going deeper (key travel). I dont get why this is satisfying to people??

[@andrewmarcdavid]

When you are on a laptop 8 hours a day it is very important. Some people need to have a comfortable experience and key travel is part of that.

[@raviteja-on2hb]

I used to love my S10 but these days samsung's product design iterations (both pc and smartphone) have been so half-hearted😮‍💨

[@MisterWhatWhat]

My MBP doesn't have a haptic touchpad. Am I missing something?

[@andrewmarcdavid]

Which year and model do you have?

[@MisterWhatWhat]

@@andrewmarcdavid MBP M4 14". Picked it up from Best Buy if that means anything. This is my 2nd MacBook ever so excuse my ignorance. Traded in the M3 I just got a month and a half ago for the M4. EDIT: OMG you're right! I had NO idea that it's haptic. It's just that good of fooling me. HaHa sorry man, my bad! Told ya I was new to MBs lol

[@Matt369oi]

I was so close to buying book 5 pro. But the 16 GB RAM had me go with something else. The laptops are way overpriced for what you get

[@SPGOficial]

X2 😂 1800 with tax

[@ismaelrivera1999]

We need to wait for another manufacturer like Asus, Hp or Lg . The other option is to wait for the Christmas 🎄 discounts 😊.

[@ruwebstyle]

I want a transformer laptop for snapdragon x elite, with Windows and Android OS, in one device.

[@HasanAlKharfan]

Those still aren't available in sweden...

[@gary094]

Lenovo is the better overall laptop.

[@Noodles.FreeUkraine]

At this point, Samsung is just entirely focused on becoming Apple 2 without putting in the work. No, you can't just turn yourself into a trillion-dollar company by selling commodity hard and software at egregious prices. This is just another Windows laptop, and that's it. What irks me the most is that, instead of giving people enticing reasons to lure them into the brand, they rather try to force them by doing all they can to keep software like Samsung Notes from running on other PCs. So cringe. And no, you can't put that pen into a pocket because even with 4,096 pressure levels, it doesn't have a single clip to carry it properly. Also, that 360° feature is no excuse for having such an enormous chin. There's just no way to unsee that thing. 🙈

[@zeuronplana8541]

This is such a shame for samsung laptops

[@JasonTsimplis]

For your information, an OLED screen that has PWM Flickering at 240Hz is NOT a good display. Your eyes can thank me later.

[@pedrohenrique-wb3ed]

Yeah. Lunar lake have no business against ryzen ai

[@AbdullahAhmed-em5ec]

Has anyone used the book 5 for gaming

[@AbdullahAhmed-em5ec]

Ik it's not gonna be amazing but can I run fortnite or warzone on medium settings

[@macrochipped]

it's overpriced right now and by the time it comes down in price in a year or two be a good bargain, it's gonna be underspecked to even really be a good deal for most.

[@IVMZR]

16 GB better than 32 GB - iMath

[@bartsimpson7424]

Asus Rog flow x16 with ryx4070 is the way to go . F... Samsung.

[@makepistat]

WHY NOT NVIDIA 😢😢😢😢

[@andrewmarcdavid]

They save that for the Ultra version

[@alexshavlo6701]

For Skype its OK

[@nft5646]

where are 32gb ram ,IR cam , ... its a sh-it

[@matthewrathgeber1452]

Just download more ram

[@andrewmarcdavid]

lol 😂

[@harryp3804]

All i heard was 1700$ and then naww 😂

[@gary094]

This CPU is not that powerful.

[@dalchangdalchang2477]

There is a 32 gigabyte option for products sold in Korea

[@okoinfokus]

Ridiculous, not a good buy.

[@RayAdams73]

Samsug never did good with laptops. I do not know what type of person was in charge of this one, but it sucks as a lot of other samsung devices

[@leohart7468]

I’m using a Galaxy Book4 Pro 16 with an Intel Core Ultra 7, and I absolutely love it. I couldn’t imagine a better laptop for my needs, and I’ll definitely buy a Samsung laptop again.

[@RevGunn-jq3cq]

It is trash!! My kid's machine has more ram.