Samsung Galaxy Tab S8 Ultra BETTER than M1 iPad Pro?!!

[@neli5p]

I've had my S8 ultra 2 days now, having switched from years of ipad 12.9" ownership. Day one was a little tricky just getting used to the difference between the 2 operating systems and the way things worked, but day 2 I'm loving it. The biggest change is having multiple ways of doing the same thing with the Samsung, For example The Choice of browsers, Where each browser will act in a different way. It really is a case of playing about to get things done the way that suits you best, but that's the beauty of the android system, and many of these options are much better than Apple fullstop. One thing that has impressed me immensely is the Dex system. Its Just like using a laptop, so now all of a sudden I can open, resize, and move about as many different windows as I like, all on a tablet ( just like a notebook). I can always change back to the normal operating system and use like a normal tablet, But to be honest, with DEX being so powerful and versatile, I can't see me ever using the traditional Tablet screen again. It just makes the Apple look primitive. As far as brightness, I have no issues. It may not be as bright as the Apple, but it's ridiculously bright as it is. My only negative at the moment is the screen sensitivity due to the small borders, and I have found my hand activating on screen apps just by holding the tablet. Here the addition of a protective case has solved the problem. Im excited about exploring the tablet further, to see what more I can do with it, But so far Im more than happy with my purchase, and could never see myself going back to an Apple. If you're on the fence like I was, just take the plunge and enter the 21st century ... the ipad just looks like a relic compared to this!

[@jd2161]

Glad to hear a real review

[@chelious1973]

I did the same. But i have been using Android for awhile. I use both eco systems depending on what project i am doing as i work on both platforms. And Samsung has their own eco system. Dont touch my ipad unless i have to. But use my iphone 13 and S22 equally. Same goes for my Apple watch and galaxy watch. One area the ipad has over Android is that ios ipad apps are optimized for a tablet. Not all Android apps are optimized for tablets. This will be fixed in Android 12 L.

[@chelious1973]

@@oo0024 He wasn't calling the hardware primitive. Try reading what he wrote. He said ipad OS looks primitive to Samsungs DEX. Which it does. DEX converts your tablet into a desktop OS. I used this many times while traveling. Its is nice taking just one device with you. A ipad doesn't have that capability. So yes, it that sense ipad OS seems primitive by comparison.

[@toytulog576]

I keep going back to Android Tablet due to lack of Browser addon support on any iOS device.. Anyone will say you can adblock on Safari, but Safari or any Browser on iOS lack an actual popup blocker. (Certain site still have force popup or overlay popup or new tab page popup) which can only be block by addon.

[@impulsiveurge5837]

what do u mean choice of browsers? you could always install chrome or opera, nobody is stopping u.

[@horseypeeps5382]

I just bought the Tab 8 Ultra, and the deciding factor was Dex mode for me. I need something that's thin, light, fairly powerful, and can take the place of a laptop at meetings or events. I am happy that (Samsung) android tablets have come so far now. Differences between Tabs and Ipads are negligible to the point of consumer preference. While I prefer the screen of the Ultra, Ipad screens are really good to... well they should be, because they are mainly made by Samsung lol.

[@hankmiller990]

I was an Apple addict for years but switched completely to Windows and Samsung. The only thing I regret is that I didn't made this switch years earlier. Apple is so damned overhyped. It still is a status symbol for I guess 80% of alle Apple users. They have no idea what they are missing.

[@James-lw3gi]

Not sure how you can talk on behalf of 80% of apple users and suggest it’s just a status symbol. Maybe it was for you back in the day and that’s why you assume it is for others? I love my apple products and I love my android stuff. I have the Ultra on the way and can’t wait.

[@BIGTANKGUNREViews]

I totally agree samsung life

[@AutoAbsolute]

I switched 2yrs ago and haven't looked back either. Apple felt stale at least then and hasn't changed too much. I'll consider going back in future but loving my fold 3, S8 Ultra and windows PC right now.

[@Adios1012]

I was a android user and switched to ios Best choice I would say for me Ios was used to be over hyped But android is over hyped by alot I would say As i owned a powerful android phone and switched to ipad mini 5 Ipad is far more worth it

[@michaelblake2280]

@@James-lw3gi it is a status symbol apple is over priced crap

[@AdrianMurray]

SD cards can be used for apps. It's just not all apps can be moved to the expandable storage. And it's a good idea to pick an SD card with fast read/write speeds if it's used for apps.

[@TravisLassiter-gn5vz]

Great tablet for basically everything. kzbin.infoUgkxLNmVocUk8tnSkwWIlYSNFzWRIaFTBuzS I bought it specifically for art, and that 4k screen is really fantastic for it! Also has LOUD audio, even tho the speakers aren't in necessarily prime locations it really projects!You do need to get a case for this bad boy IMMEDIATLY though as it doesn't come with one.Battery life is really good! Standby time us FANTASTIC. This guy can go about a week on standby and be just fine. The screen is massive so the longer you have the screen on, brightness especially, it will effect battery life. I am very happy with it though!One thing that I didn't consider is that since the screen resolution is so high, viewing ticktocks/ reading webtoons can be slightly blurry. There is no way to turn down resolution either, so it just be like that.Would still judge this bad boi at 10/10 for my first tablet. I've had it 3 months now and its not shown any evidence of "slowing down" or anything. Love it!

[@AndroidDigest]

I know the Samsung keyboard has some disadvantages but for me, a detachable keyboard is a MUST. I want to be able to use my tablet on my lap without having to remove the kickstand. It's nice to be able to have the best of both worlds. Of course I'm all in on Android so I prefer Android, but this was a great comparison!

[@PatrickRambles]

Thanks dude!

[@kokoronotomo_09]

Better ios, alwys on update even old device, samsung new device new andoid then old device no android software update make it running slowly.

[@tqueTheIdiot]

@@kokoronotomo_09 Samsung already promised 4 years worth of android updates and 5 years of security patch updates. Plus, if a device is no longer supported, you could just.. you know install a custom OS?

[@kokoronotomo_09]

@@tqueTheIdiot example samsung galaxy tab s3 does it get android 11 or higher ? How many years that device right now ?

[@levipb1403]

@@kokoronotomo_09 why need 5-7 os updates if they're only gonna slow your phone? And you don't even get half of the features anymore because your hardware doesn't support them

[@sarrum7696]

To me, I feel that the only area that Apple needs to work on is iPad OS. The hardware is more than fine. I just want more functionality from the OS. - Dual screen support, the ability to format an external drive to name a few off the top of my head.

[@PatrickRambles]

Agreed, iPadOS has a lot of maturing to do.

[@SnowWhitee]

Why don’t you compare ipad os with android

[@Johnmims65]

@@PatrickRambles which one is your favorite?

[@PatrickRambles]

I might. But this video was about the device, more than the OS.

[@PatrickRambles]

Hard to say to be honest, they both have pros and cons. I'll be sticking with the iPad because of the apps and the integration with my other Apple devices. To me, it's all about workflow and what makes the most sense.

[@TSKewl]

I am fortunate to own both and I am actually very surprised at how much I love using the Samsung Galaxy Tab S8 Ultra. The screen is absolutely incredible and I love the aspect ratio. The keyboard case that goes with it is stellar! I haven't been able to type with such ease on an Android tablet ever. I say go for it people! If you're used to apple products but want to try another UI, try it! Using it in portrait mode is a bit overkill, but very cool to experience. I'm honestly in love with the tablet and use it for recreational use, but I've contemplated using it for school. We'll see!

[@akshay5569]

How is the ms office experience in it ? Is it limited?? Is it worth to replace a laptop??

[@cos9398]

@@akshay5569 Yes it is perfect except for teams which can be improved. it replaces a laptop easily.

[@mazhadsyahmi3664]

But why use both ipad and s8 i understand of using both android and ios because im using both.. but what banefit using two tablet?

[@cos9398]

@@mazhadsyahmi3664 s8 screen is better to watch netflix and videos imo. ipad pro for a bit of game and productivity. If you can afford both it is good otherwise it comes to your personal pref

[@mazhadsyahmi3664]

@N v.3 what phone you currently use?

[@AlexGTech]

Impressive bit of kit! Agree on camera positioning, never ever been about to join a conf call or FaceTime and thought 🤔 “wish this camera would follow me around”

[@PatrickRambles]

Haha!

[@kind2de]

I agree the Apple iPad is one of the best tablets in the industry, it's why I'm so glad there is a really good android counterpart. I can't tolerate iOS but respect it's powerful processors, I love Android OS (best mobile OS in the industry) and is fascinated with all of it's features, so I ordered the Tab S8 Ultra,.

[@PatrickRambles]

Absolutely. iPadOS is the iPad's Achilles heel.

[@godchi1dvonsteuben770]

Agreed, I'm 100% an Android fanboy... It's all I buy. However, early in the video, when he says "in my mind, there is a clear winner," I IMMEDIATELY said (out loud, although I'm by myself) "oh yeah, it's the iPad, no doubt." Betweem the benchmarks, fit and finish, compact size for mobility, and how the stands work in ones lap, the iPad is far and away a more practical, and thusly more useable tablet. Think about which one would be easier to take put in, and take out of a shoulder bag. Or sitting on a park bench, propping it up in your lap. The Samsungs stand is virtually unusable in the lap. Between hobbies, and workplace usability, and ease of carriage, and the number of positions and environments itvs practical to use in, the iPad wins... So, why am I an Android fanboy? I'm a FIRM "bang for the buckc guy. I don't just look at performance, I look at performance per dollar. Android wins out every time. I currently use a 2015, Android 7, Asus Zenpad 3s 10. 64gb ssd, 4gb RAM, 2.0 Hexacore, Adtreno 510 gpu (rare, most were Graphics VR chips), and it STILL outperforms the majority of my modern devices, considering price. My Asus runs about $125, in excellent, nm condition. About $170 new old stock. The performance is more than enough for casual, and lightweight professional use. Runs virtually all modern app store apps, and is still faster than my Android 11 Octacore Motorola Moto G Pure cellfone. All that for $125 wins out over any Apple product at that price point, and this carries straight through all price points. Increase your budget to $250, Android wins. Increase price point to $500, same deal. It's only in brand new products that Apple continuosly wins out over Android, and I just don't find tablets to be an important enough tool to pay brand new prices. Especially when I can complete all of my daily tasks on a 7 year old device... The Apple is the better tablet, but for the money? Get a used, high end, Android device.

[@shanutanusharma8052]

congratulations for your new tab S7 ultra. How has been experience with new d8 ultra , is the big size practical and easy to use or it is way big. Please answer.

[@aliesmaeelnezhad1876]

Salute

[@kind2de]

@Shanutanu Sharma I like the deal they gave me, free keyboard and double the ram and internal storage than the old Tab S7 plus, 12 gigs of ram with 256 internal, all for free, plus half off total price of tablet with trade - in, NICE DEAL. My experience is mostly good, I like back-lit keyboard but sometimes it stops working or track pad times-out. Waiting on updates for a better keyboard experience, I trust Samsung. S Pen works great but can't find button at night needs a simple solution. Similar experience to S7 plus but bigger screen is not a bad thing 14.6 is still portable and keyboard book cover feels nice . Let's hope for more major app support.

[@MrPatonMarshall]

So far I have thoroughly enjoyed this tablet. I have the iPad Pro as well and it works ok but for me I just can't get used to the apple way of life nor can I stand that camera position. This tablet however, is an amazing leap from the Tab S7+ that I had prior. I think Samsung finally got the form factor down with this larger size. Now if they could just make Dex a bit more computer like I would love to replace my tablet and PC life with this.

[@PatrickRambles]

The camera position on the iPad is ridiculous.

[@mrmartywaring]

As much as I love my iPad Pro (along with my MacBook Air & other Apple products), I find the Galaxy S8 to be better. It's just more versatile and is a better productivity device.

[@gigiarcay]

but they said the battery is still weak compared to ipad pro that can really last long

[@IntrexinCustom]

I do agree with you about not caring about the benchmarks. It used to be a thing to do side by side open up programs and see who was faster, which seems to me to be the real test. Well and network speed tests, that was something Androids with Qualcom(mostly samsungs) were ahead slightly in before.

[@fromthemindofstav691]

Thanks!

[@PatrickRambles]

Thank you for watching.

[@incogspectator3042]

The creative apps on Android are perfectly fine. Clip Studio is amazing and there's also Krita which is also amazing and a great switch from Pro Create. Also I've used power director for video editing and it's quite good so far but it could still use some improvement.

[@PatrickRambles]

Hey! Yeah I'm sure they are. The point I was trying to make is that if you're heavily invested into specific apps, you need to consider the fact that they might not be available on the other OS.

[@incogspectator3042]

@@PatrickRambles Aah I see 👀

[@trapbeatproducer]

android is gxy i won't be converted! 😂

[@incogspectator3042]

@@trapbeatproducer lol Who told you to convert though? You just sort of came out of no where and said that.

[@trapbeatproducer]

@@incogspectator3042 it was a joke. i make jokes during the day to keep my spirits high

[@G3volucion]

The only reason for me to get the ultra was for the trade option. I traded my iPhone 11pro for the Tab7 minus the promotion I paid around $250. This year I trade the tab7 and my iPhone X for the tab8 and I paid $85, I know I may get more money for my iPhones but Samsung made the trade option really easy and fast. In the other hand if you want to do this with apple hahahaha they give you credit or the recycle option FOR FREE! The tab8 is not bad at all but a really good competitor of the iPad.

[@rushmore3927]

Agreed. I have both. The Ultra is far more flexible and better for media.

[@JustJammy_1310]

Hey Patrick, nice video! I'm still an iPad user (I really really love my 2020 pro), but I must admit that the position and the overall camera quality of the Tab S8 is just better lol Being in so many zoom meetings is kinda frustrating when you're always a bit too much on the side using the ipad haha also Samsung Dex is really nice, I hope Apple comes up with something similar. Would be perfect just to utilize the power of the M1 way better

[@PatrickRambles]

Thanks man! Fully agree. Hope they feel some pressure to do better in those things now.

[@neli5p]

DEX is more than nice ... it's incredible! I now have a tablet that act's just like a laptop. I can have as many screens open as i like, any size, any position ... the difference between Android and ios is staggering!

[@chaeyoungshi]

iPadOS but then a true crossover that does both

[@ffmde8268]

@@neli5p i have the most innovative laptop on the market which is asus zenbook pro duo, but still after watching the galaxy tab s8 ultra reviews and its great features just ordered one and add it as an additional screen for my work as a UI/UX designer Any tips on how to take good care of the battery?

[@asifyusoff5377]

​@@ffmde8268 same here, use my tab s7+ as my 2nd screen with zenbook duo for engineering works.

[@bobapatt2204]

Hey Patrick, very well made video (again 😉). The quality is top noch and I enjoy the good content. Nice comparison and I think you can't go wrong with either tablets. Android is catching up with apps. I do like Apple but I'll stick for now with my Tab S8 Ultra and s22 Ultra. Keep up the good work and your channel will go grow and grow. You deserve it. Groeten uit NL.

[@PatrickRambles]

Thanks man!

[@curbsidetech]

Wow both tablets seem to be pretty sweet. Im a chrome OS user but I like what Samsung is doing with Dex and what Apple is doing with the M1

[@lisacoverdale6742]

You can change the option of the Tab s8 ultra automatically booting DEX when the keyboard is attached, this is an optional configuration.

[@PatrickRambles]

I'm aware :)

[@KiLLJOY1056]

I can break it down simple for anybody trying to make the descision. As someone who owns both, and someone who needs a machine to use all day, every day, for Work, School, Gaming, Drawing/Art, and Movies. Its easy. iPad for Work, Tab for Play. If you need a mix of everything, get the iPad Pro 12.9" M1/M2 The Tab S8 Ultra is the best machine for Watching Content and Gaming in terms of how the Game will Look to the Eyes. Videos, Movies, Photos, Artwork. It has a much more widely used Aspect Ratio, filling up the whole screen. When in need to get things done or just trying to use the tablet swiftly. It can be very frustrating. Typing on the virtual keyboard, if you accidentally swipe a little bit when pressing the spacebar, it will trigger the Gesture to close out of the App and go to the Home Screen. Or the Delete Button right above Backspace causing misclicks deleting letter before and after what was meant to be deleting. Or having no Option to Select One Word and only given the option to Select All. Things like this can be very frustrating in general, but especially when needing to get work done, and in a timely manner. The Galaxy Tablet can feel very unfinished and sloppy, with much improvements needed to be made. The iPad Pro 12.9" is for Work. Its Very Reliable. It doesnt Freeze or Glitch. It works everytime. Processing for anything is top notch. It will always load and process. It has a much better choice of apps for Work and School. The Magic Keyboard is superior, especially for the Hinge. It takes up less space and can be placed down in more areas, IE: sitting on the Lap. The Apple Pencil is Better, More Consistent, More Precise. Better for writing and drawing, feels better in hand and on glass. However, The Aspect Ratio can be pretty unconeventional for watching any content from the Modern Era, and the File Management System can be pretty unhelpful at times. The lack of SD Card slot Support is a bummer but can be worked around with attatchments and external devices. The Tablet interface when Using a keyboard isnt that great. I still find myself needing to touch the screen for gestures and other things that the mouse and keyboard cant do. Overall if i could only have one, i would pick the iPad Pro 12.9" but only M1 or M2 with Mini Led Display. Its more reliable. Its a master at Optimization. Meaning better Reliability, Power, and Apple Pencil Use. The Tab S8s in general are a Jack of All Trades but Master at None. Lacking much needed device specific optimization. The iPad Pro is for Work. While The Tab s8 Ultra is for Play.

[@Michael-jf1ys]

I bought an iPad Pro M1 12.9inch and tried really hard to use it as my PC replacement - ended up selling it. Although it is very powerful and capable, iPadOS is so limiting and I felt less productive because of it. Poor multitasking, file management and lack of extended display support has turned me off considering an iPad in the foreseeable future.

[@PatrickRambles]

Hi Michael, I agree, the iPad Pro is absolutely not a full replacement for a PC or laptop. It's a complementary device that works extremely well with other apple devices especially. I can imagine that coming from PC, expecting a replacement would leave you disappointed.

[@motorjack141]

Gf gifted me an S8 Ultra. The iPad 11 she lent me has a way better processor for editing but I didn't like the screen's aspect ratio. Now if they release a new ipad with 16:10 aspect ratio that would probably be the one to get. The ultra's size takes some getting used to because it's essentially a laptop without keyboard until you attach the case to it(still claiming since it doesn't come with the package here in the Philippines).

[@PatrickRambles]

Sounds like you might have to put a ring on it, my dude 💍

[@NtumePaul]

Samsung has been working with Microsoft on a few system things...and I had no idea that they would buy into the Surface stand. I use surface and Samsung side by side because for some reason they have found a way of integrating the systems. But if Samsung is getting to use some of the Surface ideas, I can't wait to see how far better they will improve on this. After all, as much as I like Microsoft, they are known of having good ideas with poor. implementation

[@PatrickRambles]

Very true. I also like what I'm seeing, the better these brands get, the more competition. And competition means innovation.

[@ShaunaMorgan]

I have the iPad Pro 12.9 and the Samsung Tab S7 and I find that I enjoy them both equally. I did cringe however, when you said that the magic keyboard has great angles. I absolutely hated that it could only be used in two angles. So much so, I returned it for the Logitech combo touch. I find I use the Tab S7 when I’m doing more work, and the iPad for more passive tasks. I don’t draw or edit videos, so the optimized apps don’t really affect me much. I tend to game on the Tab S7 to, as I use a lot of the cloud gaming solutions like Stadia and xCloud, and with native apps on android, it’s just a better experience. Overall, I think Apple has the better ecosystem, but the Tab series is a lot more versatile, which suits someone who likes to tinker, a lot more.

[@thequarrymen58]

The keyboard came free with my s7+ and I can use any other Wacom pen tho

[@shyhrk]

Agree.... Apple ecosystem is nice (if you have other Apple products), the OS is well polished, but too restricting and sometimes with abritrary rules/reasons for anything, and can be very irritating for Android user. I love freedom and the flexibility, so I got a Samsung instead of another Apple device. And it just felt like I can do whatever I want on my device and I don't think I'll want to go back to Apple again.

[@ffmde8268]

@@shyhrk thats the main reason im stickin with android

[@milkedition]

The accidental taps on the Samsung are crazy. Can’t tell you how many times I have nudged a video back to its beginning or end just by picking the device up. It is small things like this that add up to make the Apple experience superior overall.

[@virensharma8839]

Salute, I use a tab s8 ultra and it has been amazing, unfortunately for the iPad, I am quite invested in the Samsung ecosystem with a flip 3, watch 4, book 2, and buds 2. Thanks for the review!

[@PatrickRambles]

Thanks!

[@camacoyote8357]

I’ve had iPads for years now I’ve loved it but as soon as I switched to the s8 ultra it was so much better I love using it and nothing would convince me to switch back to the new ipad

[@mayurkakade8397]

Finally I found a channel which is not biased at any side :)

[@PatrickRambles]

:)

[@morrigansraven61]

I almost always use headphones so the speakers are a wash, I think the mics and the front facing camera is better on the Ultra

[@sunnyschramm9650]

one of the best comparison videos out there. thx patrick.

[@catherion]

As a student (and having previously owned an S6 lite), the lack of notetaking apps is a major dealbreaker for me. Samsung Notes is a good app for notetaking, but still not comparative to Goodnotes or Notability. There were also several instances where the app crashed entirely, which was worrying since I have my handwritten notes on the app itself. Another notetaking app I used was squidnotes, but that was even less optimized than the Samsung Notes app. The spen is also a pain to use when writing, because of its positioning. I find myself always accidentally pressing the Spen button, and it got super annoying to the point that I decided it would be better to buy another pen without the button this time. If you're a student looking to get a tablet for notetaking, annotating, and other school-related tasks, I'd recommend an iPad.

[@marvoinfo]

Cameras are useful to me on a tablet. I could use them to record myself or what is in front of me and still use the tablet for other things. Sadly i can’t do that on my ipad. I used to do that on my android phone. Laptops usually don’t have cameras on the back. If i had the apps and OS updates I want on android I probably would replace my laptop and tablet with a Samsung. I rarely is a laptop any more but my ipad limits me in multitasking as I like using my camera and multiple audio streams for music.

[@timlee2773]

One thing I like about Samsung keyboard is the spacing. The M1 iPad magic keyboard made the keys big but the trackpad cramped. The thing I'm happy about is the back lighting. Samsung adding that adds another competition to the iPad. But the typing is Apple. The clicks are Apple. I wish Apple used IOS and then used iPadOS as a DeX like skin.

[@PatrickRambles]

Thanks, Tim!

[@Funie_M]

Hi, how do you use your PS controller on your iPad?

[@TheGymBros1998]

The Samsung is really tempting right now. I'm in university and i recently switched to Apple and I regret it sometimes because you can't multitask on the phone. Sometimes I want to knock homework out on my phone and watch a video at the same time for the homework and thats not possible on the phone and its just not as smooth on the ipads. I think thats what making me lean towards the Galaxy Tabs8 ultra.

[@shebjjeje9720]

At least people don’t get green bubbles from you 👍🏻

[@confused.cat.]

@@shebjjeje9720 is it that bad to get green bubbles?

[@ryanxu9983]

@@shebjjeje9720 i still dont understand why green and blue bubbles even matter

[@PatrickRambles]

They don't. It's the silliest debate ever in the whole android vs apple fued.

[@ryanxu9983]

@@PatrickRambles exactly

[@scottcupp8129]

I use my m1 iPad Pro for a mobile DAW with 2tb storage. I use it for music production and it is a great tool. I love that S8 tablet though. What a fantastic device. They are both fantastic devices and of course each has their own strengths and weaknesses. I started out my tablet life with iPads so that's where I will most likely stay because I just purchased my M1 iPad Pro 12.9 and I absolutely LOVE it. I need the serious power it has for the fact that I do a lot of live recording and mobile audio editing on location so I need something insanely fast when it comes to mastering and overall product readiness.

[@PatrickRambles]

Thanks for sharing!

[@aziko78]

The issue I have with Android and especially Samsung, is that they don't offer the same support that Apple does, Samsung devices after a year or two start to slow down, I've got a galaxy note 9 and it's so slow, I also had a one plus 5 and that's still very fast (probably the only Android company that knows how to do software, not sure about Google devices as they seem to be buggy). In the UK Samsung use the exonys chips so maybe that's part of the issue that I see. I gather the Snapdragon is used on these tablets in the UK so maybe that will help, but the sheer difference in power makes me think the Samsung devices will age very quickly and won't be worth the money. I have an iPhone 6s plus for work and it still works very quick. For my own money I've never bought an apple iPhone or iPad but have bought multiple Android devices and only not a single one had impressed me in both hardware and software together, if only oxygen OS could be used on s Samsung tablet it might be worth looking into. The biggest issue I have with Apple Is they extortionate amount they charge for storage when you cannot expand them. I'm in two minds on what get.

[@ot8983]

i was a huge samsung fanboy, bought the note10+, galaxy buds, galaxy watch, always had he latest samsung flagship. But man my 2 year old note10+ is slower than a mid range phone right now. the battery lasts 4 hours at most, and it's just sluggish to use with any app.

[@aziko78]

@@ot8983 lol I caved in and bought an iPhone lol and loving it so far, it’s not perfect but nothing is! I won’t buy any Samsung devices until they can prove me wrong, still considering the iPad though but might wait to see if they unlock its full capability in terms of software /laptop experience

[@simonmeszaros2770]

My first tabled and my only intention was to use it as a drawing tablet. Chcecked ipad to see how pen follows and interpolate when moving slow and samsung and ipad are almost on par i had a feeling samsung is even better. Size, price won for me samsung, applications wise too. Now after using it few months i love this device more and more...actually its a first ti e i can say it about some device. It exceeded my expectations, but part of it is due to its my first tablet, so i am using it for reading too.

[@darrylwoodbury]

I just ordered this monster tablet and I'll be picking it up this afternoon in store when I get out of work. I'm counting down the hours until I'm out of here. I chose this tablet over the iPad 12.9" because of he included S-Pen at no extra cost. I use both Android and iOS devices and the S8 Ultra was better suited for my use. Also, watching movies/shows on that massive screen while my boss is out of the office is going to be awesome. I mean... I'm always working, even when my boss isn't in the office or out for the day. I'd never watch movies or shows at work. Never. That should cover things just in case my boss sees this comment.

[@SurenKhorenyan]

Salute! Thank you for your review

[@PatrickRambles]

Salute, Suren!

[@steadfast78]

Tablets have come a long way. A win to everyone regardless of which brand you pick.

[@PatrickRambles]

Agreed.

[@yervandpapazyan4473]

I think the only problem that the iPad has is its software everything is great except iPad OS. I understand that they want to differentiate and keep separate iPad from the MacBook lineup to push the customers to buy MacBook or Mac mini or whatever, and I understand that they can’t completely disappear the boundaries between these devices. Otherwise, everyone will buy the iPad as a complete laptop replacement Because a lot of people asking to bring the MacOS system to the iPad. I’m pretty sure it’s not going to happen, but they can make just a little bit more usable, a little bit closer to the desktop operating system not completely the same but just a little bit closer.

[@tonyg7940]

Great video man, love the honest review! Nearly got me to consider the ipad but I'm staying with Samsung on this one 💪

[@PatrickRambles]

Thanks man!

[@HasanAlKharfan]

Second screen works on anything that can do screen mirroring, so basically any android phone from something like 2015 and forward can share the screen. Plus wimdows. And if you buy the "super display" app you could use the tablet @120 hz at almost full resolution on windows (if your laptop supports the bandwidth)

[@KennethTTM]

Just want to say. Great content, unbiased reviews. Been seeing many reviews from other KZbinrs and yours is one of the better value for time ones to see. Keep it up! 💪🏼

[@PatrickRambles]

Thanks Kenneth, I appreciate that!

[@saibajinzero]

Yo wtf

[@giovannibucio]

Me switching from all apple to now android all SAMSUNG S22Ultra and TabS8Ultra both 512gigs was a blast more freedom to do everything your way not apples way and loaded with custumisation. Being with apple products is like living in north korea can only do the basics their way.

[@VideoManiacExtreme]

Hi Patrick, great video like always. Apple should improve IPadOS rather than add more power.

[@PatrickRambles]

I agree.

[@kennhaughton150]

Brilliant right up of the 2 best tablets on the market. I ma still getting use to the Tab S8 Ultra and discovering how it works. I thought your very non-bias review is great. I chose to get a Tab 8Ultra insteasd of getting a proper labtop. i had a Tab S7+ and loved it, so this switch was not so bad to do. Apple is top dog but the Tab is getting there. it will be good to see how they progress the Tab * Ultra with all the reviews it is getting, including your review. Thank you. I believe I have made the right choice. I am loving the TAb S8.

[@PatrickRambles]

Hey Kenn, thanks for sharing and for the kind words! 👊

[@light487]

I love the S8 Ultra... But I have too much invested in paid iPad apps..

[@RathJ13]

really depends how you intend to use the device as to which one is the right pick.

[@boltsbaseball]

I'm a 30+ year Professional Graphic Artist. When some say that there aren't Professional Visual Arts apps on android it's just really incorrect, because I use them everyday. Autodesk Sketchbook, Infinite Painter, Concepts, are just a few of the apps available on the Google Play store... There are many more... Are there a few apps available on iPad that aren't on the Play store? Yes, of course, but a good carpenter never blames his tools, and with expertise and talent you can do anything and everything on android apps that you can do on iOS apps - NO DOUBT.

[@boltsbaseball]

The S-Pen is fantastic and FREE in the box. You don't need to add a paper-like screen protector ($40) in addition to the $130 you'll pay extra for the Apple Pencil...

[@boltsbaseball]

If you're already entrenched in the Apple 'eco-system'... Then pay the extra $500 to $1500... But guess what, the Tab S8 Ultra supports HDR10+ and has a 120Hz refresh rate, so your covered.

[@PatrickRambles]

I don't disagree with you about the apps thing. Of course you can work just as well on the Samsung. My point was that if you're used to some specific apps and aren't looking to migrate to different ones, it's a good idea to check their availability on the other OS first, lest you come out disappointed.

[@boltsbaseball]

@@PatrickRambles OK, Just want to mention another thing... Another one of the GREAT features of the Tab S* Ultra is the addition of a little app called SuperDisplay. It works absolutely great with Windows 10. It basically replaced my Wacom Cintiq as my main Photoshop editing device. It's higher resolution, wireless, lighter, portable, and the S-Pen might be even better...

[@faraon3000]

Im glad your channel is growing. Its great you are including both Android and Apple products. I currently use Samsung and Apple. Great video.

[@PatrickRambles]

Thanks Joe, I appreciate it!

[@genogonzalez2127]

Very informative! Just subscribed! Am from Apple ecosystem but I’m going try out this Tab S8 ultra, shipping in April! Hopefully won’t be disappointed, I’m very impressed with the screen size on the tab S8 ultra!

[@PatrickRambles]

Thanks man! Yeah it's definitely an interesting device. Let me know how you like it.

[@mrbobo86]

Not everyone that buys a tablet uses it for drawing or video editing. So procreate and lumafusion is useless to those like me. The 4:3 aspect ratio is just awful and awkward for media viewing. I hate it. But the one thing that still bugs me about iOS is that they still won't allow you to install LIVE wallpapers on the homescreen. Like why not?? Makes no sense. I love having live wallpapers.

[@fernandosilva]

You already know I’m iPad Pro all day. But s8 ultra still looks great honestly

[@PatrickRambles]

It does. Samsung is making strides.

[@southernsoul152]

Really incredible product review! You settled my mind on my mind after watching COUNTLESS reviews on this product! Yours was the only video I felt answered my questions

[@PatrickRambles]

Thanks!! I'm glad it was useful.

[@ubcTech]

micro SD is a must in Android devices!

[@mikldude9376]

I’d say it should be in all computer media devices including iOS devices , not just for expanding storage , but for back up and using with other devices and having the ability to have a library of sd cards is very handy . It’s a convenience feature , like having extra ports on your tv or laptop or computer . It’s not like it’s expensive to implement , even my dear old mums crappy 100 dollar flip phone had an sd card.

[@liouxliouxisgod]

I have both ipad pro and s8+. Im trying to to find a daw like program i can use to play my midi keyboards with. Does samsung have anything youd recommend in terms of a sound module? Ive used garageband but im not a music producer….i just wanna play pads with my keystep 😢

[@joalblo9581]

Personal preference/bias made the conclusion of this comparison clear from the beginning. I do think you tried to be objective but to me it was apparent that you were unable to overcome your preference for what you were used to in order to be truly objective. Ex. You made some good points however I noticed that anything you said that was good about the iPad, your tone and inflection changed. It was lighter and happier. When you said something good about the Samsung you almost always followed it up with a but...not letting the compliment stand for long without then following up with a critique.

[@PatrickRambles]

That's quite the analysis 😅. You're right, I did try to be neutral and yes, I have a personal preference because I'm in the apple ecosystem, but I honestly don't think there is a better tablet between these two. Pros and cons for both.

[@joalblo9581]

@@PatrickRambles I completely understand that. And thanks for the acknowledgement.

[@ronporter3885]

At 15:32 what games are you playing on iPad mini?

[@HistoryNut-1701]

Hopefully Apple with add a type of DEX Mode to iPadOS 16 to keep pace with Samsung.

[@PatrickRambles]

That would be good.

[@HistoryNut-1701]

@@PatrickRambles Yeah. Something that you can set to kick on when you dock the Air and the Pro to the Magic Keyboard.

[@naxalite115]

That would never happen. For if Apple ever introduced Dex like functionality, the bottom of their laptop and iMac sales would fall out.

[@HistoryNut-1701]

@@naxalite115 I don’t think so. Their laptop and desktops are more & more being geared towards the power/pro user. The iPad is suppose to be the “computer for the masses” now. They should give it something like DEX so the user can get some more familiar functionality out of it.

[@justaregularguy115]

@@HistoryNut-1701 You're not thinking like Apple. You're thinking about what would work best for the consumer. Apple is the same company that took away the headphone jack on it's phones and the ports on its Macbooks just to sell overpriced dongles. They care about selling proprietary hardware and intentionally keep their software stunted. It's worked thus far and they're not changing their strategy anytime soon just because it would make consumers happy.

[@ThatGuyTH7]

To be honest, the S Pen Pro, which can be bought separately, is a lot cheaper than the Apple pencil, has the same distribution and size as the pencil, and has a soft tip and fixes all the apple pencil issues. Thus, for my use cases, the samsung is better, and if I want a pen like the apple pencil I can always get the s pen pro which I believe it's bettter

[@mikldude9376]

Wouldn’t it be great if you could merge all the great features from both tablets into one ? For me I do prefer bigger bezels for handling a tablet, i like dex and the multi tasking on the galaxy’s . Multitasking on the iPads does feel somewhat clunky to me , I do like a lot about the magic keyboard and especially the extra port. I can’t really say I’m a fan of the Apple Pencil gen 2 , it just feels somewhat limited in its functions and uninspiring (sorry). I’m not familiar with the Pencil on the galaxy tab , but if it’s anything like the galaxy note phones S pen with air command , and a bunch of other features , then I’d be all over it. As a long time android boy now , and an iPhone/iPad user for a little over a year now , for me there is a lot to like about the dark side, at the same time , just like android it’s not perfect and some areas they could improve , ports could be improved on both , I miss the 3.5 mm headphone jacks , and on these very expensive devices , not having other useful ports is like wtf ? , I like the sd card option on the galaxy , I wouldn’t mind if it was the common SD 2 though. There are times when I wish I had android stuff again , and other times I’m glad I have iOS, perhaps the only answer is to have both 😀. In short IMO , both companys could do better in some software , and they both could equip their devices with a bit more laptop hardware features like extra ports for accessories, you should not have to use bloody dongles or usb multi hubs on one or two or even three thousand dollar + tablets. Nirvana is not here yet.

[@PatrickRambles]

Definitely what's holding tablets back is software (or rather company policy)

[@trjvail]

this was a really well put together and professional review, I can see this channel gaining a lot of growth. earned a sub

[@PatrickRambles]

Thanks a lot Thomas, much appreciated!

[@TellurdogIsayhi]

all I'm going to say is i traded my 12.9 M1 pro for the s8 ultra andi honestly feel stupid fur ever paying that much for an ipad. Has a fraction of the functionality the s8 does.

[@ibm30rpg]

You're gonna feel extra stupid when the Tab loses update support in 3 years while the M1 Pro continues for a decade and then some.

[@miroslavseda9136]

I'm actually watching this on my Samsung Galaxy Tab S8 Ultra 5G and you're right. Its keyboard it's not so impressive, but I'm not using it so often, so it is not a big issue for me.

[@PatrickRambles]

The display is magical though.

[@miroslavseda9136]

@@PatrickRambles I have nothing against Apple, I have tried their products, just, android products are better for me. But of course, it's an individual feeling and decision. It's always amazing to see the right competition between two probably most innovative companies in tech right now. It's a shame we can't see something similar by Asus, Lenovo, Acer, Xiaomi, or Oppo.

[@PatrickRambles]

Agreed again. It's very personal and fanboys gonna fan. But in my opinion, Samsung and Apple are the only real competitors, the rest is scrambling for crumbs.

[@miroslavseda9136]

@@PatrickRambles Well said. You're 100% right. If you are looking for a midrange or the low end product, it's a different story. But, if you want to buy the best of the best possible available, it's Samsung or Apple, nothing else.

[@saibajinzero]

Don't watch the video Short answer: Yes Samsung Tab S8 is way better

[@PatrickRambles]

LOL.

[@acyiele]

7:45 you show 256gb but you said 265gb? Which one is it...

[@PatrickRambles]

Which one do you think ;)

[@Stoneman1971]

I don't know if the Samsung is better than the Apple, but I just got my Samsung S8 ultra yesterday. I absolutely love it! To be honest I've never used an iPad. I did have iPhones in the beginning, the first gen iPhone, the iPhone 4, and the iPhone 6s. I now have a Samsung Galaxy a51 5G, which I really like. I've gotten used to the Android operating system, and I think I prefer it over the Apple. In the end, I don't think I don't think you can go wrong with which whatever one you pick. They're both amazing devices. The only drawback to the Samsung is the price of the keyboard. $350 for a keyboard seems a little ridiculous for me.

[@PatrickRambles]

Allen, you're absolutely right - both are fantastic devices. It all comes down to preference and/or how locked into an ecosystem you are.

[@henryting1887]

Previously I used to have ipad but whenever I go for my lessons I got to bring both ipad and iphone in which I think it was troublesome. When I started to use my Samsung S6 lite tablet I need not have to bring 2 items to add weight to my bag. Samsung S6 Lite can be used as a tablet as well as a handphone which can reduce the weight in my bag.

[@lisacoverdale6742]

Agree with your view on benchmarks, both machines are very fast for everyday use regardless of which one has the fastest overall benchmark score. There seems to be too much focus on this metric implying the faster the benchmark the better the device when this is far from the truth.

[@ibm30rpg]

Absolutely the case for desktop graphics cards. It's not something to just completely ignore if you actually don't want to cuck yourself.

[@alexdeegames]

17:43 samsung angles are limited? Maybe you mixed up the devices?) Magic keyboard has only one working angle and it is annoying.

[@joblack5138]

Yo dude.....your intro is I've now decided the coolest of my KZbin subscribed......great graphic design and sound clip.....plus perfect timing

[@PatrickRambles]

Hey thanks Jo! Appreciate that 😅

[@PinPimYT]

This comment is way too late but here's the situation with the position of the s-pen charger. Having the camera positioned in portrait mode means that there cannot be charging for the s-pen on the top of the device. Idk the exact reason why but it's either due to space or the magnets interfering with the camera itself. This is what happened with the new ipad lineup, where the camera was not portrait, which caused apple pen usage to become a nightmare. There's not support for gen 2 pen and you need two dongles to connect/charge the gen 1 pen.

[@matatoto9805]

Goodnotes is coming to android (in fact, theres the beta), as well as infinite painter which is already available for Android. This was a very biased comparisson. You never mentioned how multitasking is way better on the Tab 8 or how the file manager sucks ass on the iPad while it's great on the Tab 8, or how convenient is to have a detachable keyboard on the Tab 8 when wanting to use the tablet on the bed while on the iPad it's more cumbersome when you need to do that every day (the keyboard is not detachable from the case), or how the front facing camera is 4K on the Tab while it's a petty 1080p on the iPad.

[@Edulaxy]

Hi; can you please compare the screen recording of both; as we need to know for teaching videos which one would be best?

[@nodwhileshrug3305]

Both have a great hardware. Its now a choice on what os you prefer.

[@tonystafano4028]

I tried the s8, was a bit overwhelming with the price. The notch was bothersome. The edge of the screen was so small that I would constantly have accidental screen taps that would either change the video or cause misplaced actions on my games. Over all I decided the tab was not for me.

[@PatrickRambles]

Thanks for sharing your experience.

[@jd2161]

Funny... the s8 doesn't have a notch... You can adjust the touch areas and sensitivity. Did you really try any of the tablets?

[@tonystafano4028]

@@jd2161 the s8 has a notch where the front facing camera is, hope that answers the rest of your questions 😀

[@RowBr0]

@@tonystafano4028 you're talking about the Ultra. The standard S8 doesnt have a notch

[@MohcineJabairi]

I just got my Samsung tab 8 and I got with it the case with keyboard from Samsung as well. The one you have in your video shows its flows but it is not the same I bought. Do they have several or did they decide to change the design? I wonder! But I'm happy with how firm the one I have.

[@PatrickRambles]

Maybe the Tab and the Ultra have different keyboards.

[@MohcineJabairi]

@@PatrickRambles Ah yes, after viewing several videos, I see that each tab has it's own keyboard since they come in different sizes.

[@a1q369]

S8 ultra marvellous and it's performance is outstanding ❣️ me toooooo satisfied 🥰

[@qinmin119]

At 12:10, are you able to notice the screen flicker of Samsung ? This display will definitely cause a lot of eye strains and headaches!

[@PatrickRambles]

No no, the display flicker is caused by the different frequencies between the display and the camera frame rate. The human eye won't see that.

[@qinmin119]

@@PatrickRambles Yes, the human eyes wont see that, but it does not mean that it would not cause eye strains. We technically call it PWM flicker, which does not exist at all in Ipad pro 11 2021, Ipad mini 6 and Ipad air 5, because of their LCD display.

[@PatrickRambles]

That's a good point.

[@qinmin119]

@@PatrickRambles Thanks！

[@orcungokcek1724]

Hello, thanks your video, i have question; may i use s8 ultra for photo editing and video esiting without any issue (with lightroom) or i have to go with ipad pro 12.9 Thank you

[@PatrickRambles]

Hey there. It works fine. I guess it comes down to what OS and which pencil you prefer working with.

[@onewhoisanonymous]

2:14 For USA folks: A4 is the size of a standard piece of paper outside the USA. Slightly longer than an 8 1/2 by 11 inch sheet.

[@PatrickRambles]

Haha fair.

[@scrapiron6870]

Being unbiased not biased will keep your channel going, once folks go loyal brand people will catch on, always remember Thankyou

[@xmateinc]

I have both the s7 plus and just got the iPad Pro 5gen. iPad is definitely more powerful. Samsung has a better pen and multi tasks much better with Samsung dex. Love the magic keyboard though. iPad multi tasks well, but you need to now how to use all the hand motions.

[@PatrickRambles]

Very true, swiping and gestures take some getting used to. Dex is definitely catered more to the PC crowd.

[@xmateinc]

@@PatrickRambles the one main thing I don’t like about the iPad is that if you use headphones that are not beats or iPods, you can’t adjust the volume limit.

[@dannystechexperience8425]

i really don't understand how 4k can be so different on different devices. comparing my ipad pro 2020 front facing 4k quality to my Oneplus 7 pro 4k quality is so very different. also, i assumed it would be much better than the front facing camera on my first gen ipad pro but the image is extremely grainy while it's not grainy at all on my first gen ipad pro. especially at night the quality is extremely bad while it's perfect on the first gen ipad pro... i really don't understand this.

[@reaperreaper5098]

It's because 4K has no impact on quality beyond resolution. Sensors, lenses, and software are what dictate quality. And with sensors, it's not a care of higher number equals better, too many megapixels can just as easily destroy photo/video quality as too few, which is why one should look at reviews over just comparing camera specs.

[@supratimsarkar2493]

Hi I work as a 3D junior artist, I do a lot of sculpting and other sketching stuffs, photo and video editing etc.. I was planning for a long time to buy an apple ipad pro m1 but now confused in both this tabs... I mean they have different demands and qualities on both their ways.. if I see in ipad from artist perspective it actually offers better in both performance but a limitation on softwares which are genuinely not affordable for everyone at the pricing but offers you good, whereas on Samsung I get a better display and other open source stuffs which will help me in getting different softwares and all but will it be as wise as the apple m1? Like the Lider sensor is really a worth deal for scanning real life objects as I can use it for my sculpts or faster modelling... Whereas it lacks on Android...but again you get better opportunities on Android for storage expanding which is not an option for apple except transfer... There are so many differences inbetween both of them that I'm really getting confused for which would be a deal for all rounder... I'm not super rich but want to get a genuine product with quality with my hard earned money... Can you help me out to pick out logically? I never used apple before so I don't know if I will be able to handle it quickly..🙂

[@sangar197]

Thanks bro, you kept the promise by reviewing both tables side by side.... I enjoyed it and I will by the new subscriber

[@PatrickRambles]

Thanks man, I appreciate the support!

[@JamesBond-vb3hp]

What game was that you were playing in the ipad mini mention at 0:40 ?

[@PatrickRambles]

Oceanhorn 2 :)

[@dianabittencourt]

which one do you think it is better for studying and handle with documents ? I do want to buy one of them, but i can't really see if Android is better than apple

[@TheThaiLife]

Thank you for doing this video. I don't see a point to upgrade my iPad to M2 from M1 but having some different apps and ability do do Windows tasks could be nice. Can you install software on this and do things like update drivers on devices for Windows only? I have a Sony A7IV and when I updated it last, I had to borrow a windows computer. If I can do that on here, I will pick one up. Thanks for the video!

[@mjj0829]

at this point, I think I just pick samsung tablet over apple tablet. I had iPad pro when I got s7+. I fell in love with s7+. I gave my iPad pro to my mom. then I waited for s8 ultra for the real estate and boy I loved it as soon as I opened the box. now I use it for everything. my computers are all Macs (mbp pro, Mac studio max and MacBook air) so i couldn't use the dex that much. I got a lightweight PC recently and wow it works beautifully. I am excited what s9 will be like hahaha

[@benitogm00]

I really liked how you speak to your viewers very politely

[@PatrickRambles]

Thanks, Benito, I appreciate that!

[@frank.duffy.3709]

So quick question: does anyone know what the stand at 6:02 is called? Or where you can find one? It looks really cool

[@PatrickRambles]

This one? Compass Pro - amzn.to/3i5nvXZ

[@frank.duffy.3709]

@@PatrickRambles thank u💖

[@mikerobbins4138]

If I'm looking at both sound to me is important which one sounds better? I will mainly use it for streaming base ball or watching movies. Any thoughts thanks

[@PatrickRambles]

There's a sound test in the video

[@mikerobbins4138]

@@PatrickRambles I know I just could not here much difference thru my phone.

[@estusflask982]

@@mikerobbins4138 They both sound great but iPad Pro has a little more bass. I would go with S8 Ultra for larger OLED screen.

[@mikerobbins4138]

@@estusflask982 I tried both don't know if it's be but I tested the picture quality using same youtube video and noticed that the I pad pro looked clearer a little more detail in the video. What do you think?

[@michellejulene7256]

Hello 🤗, I'm an artist and designer. I need the best device for Photoshop and taking pictures. Can you please advise me what would be the best fit for me? Thank you 😊

[@PatrickRambles]

Hey! I wouldn't advise anyone to use a tablet to take pictures. But if you must, I'd go with the iPad. Also for creative apps, but I suppose that depends on what you're used to in terms of apps

[@obriantomlinson2776]

Where did you get the yellow back for the iPad??

[@PatrickRambles]

It's a skin by Dbrand but they don't make it anymore :(

[@VengenzX]

Did u install and run an app on the memory card before u came to that conclusion or was this an assumption?