Samsung Odyssey OLED G8 Review - Better with Nvidia

[@JadedPrimate]

For those of you who, like me, are wondering about the title, Tim gets to the heart of the matter at around 17:51

[@lefteris19]

thanks

[@rENEGADE666JEDI]

Fortunately, it's rather a problem with the monitor drivers, so it's not big issue.

[@whismerhillgaming]

Tim should have made a teaser in the introduction about this IMHO.

[@allenantonio4389]

Timmy boy

[@Contra_1776]

Much appreciated

[@BlackFragFilms]

The smart functionality is actually very useful because trying to watch any drm protected content at full bitrate + hdr is a pain in the ass with Windows.

[@PainterVierax]

Though with the telemetry they've put inside that "smart-monitor" the price should be significatively reduced compared to the Alienware and other simple monitors. And like IoT, the fast drop of software support on all of those Android devices once the warranty period is over is concerning in term of security.

[@TaimatCR]

@@PainterVierax I think Samsung uses the same os as their TVs tizen which is not android and far worse for ads and other intrusive things

[@PainterVierax]

@@TaimatCR They repurposed that good ol' Tizen into that, i see…… So that means it's even worse than I thought because even when the manufacturer support drop, the apps can't be manually updated and there is very few possibility of any community support. Though, Tizen devices seem not to be well supported by Samsung in the first place, embedding old Linux kernels and neglecting pentesting audits and OTA updates. That's a real good advertisement for HTPC running Kodi with LibreElec (or conventional Linux) on devices like RaspberryPi, NUC, Brix or thin-ITX PCs.

[@moritztresselt]

I've noticed that on my AW3223DWF, Disney+ is unwatchable in fullscreen, it goes down to a felt 10 fps

[@irun2sanaxox]

alsoo less power consumption

[@jasssedine]

I have been waiting for you guys to review this monitor. You are my #1 when it comes to objective monitor reviews. Thanks!

[@prabhatbaghel8959]

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[@prabhatbaghel8959]

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[@prabhatbaghel8959]

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[@dinospumoni8255]

I returned my AW DWF for this and overall much happier. The DWF has bad packaging that causes micro scratches but the biggest issue is the damn coil whine on the DWF. Dell even replaced it multiple times for me but they had all this horrendous buzzing noise coming out of the monitor. While the G8 OLED isn't perfect either, it's at least dead silent which is very important to me.

[@shawtdusanshawt]

Same as me😂

[@marcel1463]

Since when is it possible that monitors have coil whine? I thought this is only existing on some graphics cards.

[@dinospumoni8255]

@@marcel1463 It's been a known issue on the DWF since the release back in November. You can do a google search and it's been discussed to death at this point. The G-Sync DW version doesn't suffer from coil whine, it's whatever cheap internal PSU they used in the DWF that is most likely the cause of the noise.

[@morrays1996]

@@marcel1463 The first monitor to have that issue was the Asus pg27uq back in 2018. The fans cooling the gsync premium module is the main culprit

[@JonasJensen1308]

The same reason why I returned mine.

[@slapmynutz]

Ive just picked this up for £700 ($880) at a clearance store, brand new, my eyeballs have never been more happy. I hugely recommend this if you have an rtx 4070 or above it will change your life.

[@MadOrange644]

This monitor is cheaper to get in my country than importing an Alienware. That's why I got it and I'm happy because of the extra ports like HDMI 2.1 and USB-C x2

[@ChristianJosephs]

this the Samsung is cheaper in some countries than the Alienware (Asia)

[@brendano2140]

@The European Bee It's greedy govs that charge high tax

[@dededede9257]

@@brendano2140 currency value make a lot also

[@gargantuan2810]

Did you find it a better choice than the Neo G7?

[@Lemard77]

@@brendano2140 ah yes those 100% import tax

[@kristofferraecampaniel7157]

i bought mine months ago when it first released in Germany, i'm very happy whith it, no issues or complaints

[@rickgear2579]

I wish Tim would tell us exactly which settings he used for SDR and HDR. It's hard listening to the video to pick out which changes he did.

[@samoh4u]

$500 open box at Best Buy. Best monitor I've ever owned lol.

[@Itsyourboyzo]

Ditto lol

[@Tripokaridos22]

Say that after 1-2 years ....

[@calvinwynn7866]

@@Tripokaridos22??

[@Tripokaridos22]

@@calvinwynn7866 Oled panels are known of many problem's after time, Like Burn in , Losing brightness, pixels get stuck or get black, etch etch and ok the already day one problems like reflections, like stutter and flickering, like text look bad etch etch... Am I not impressed with my G8 ? No I am for other reasons most of all the smooth motion and the amazing response, but it's far from perfect.

[@theyojo1656]

how’s it been?

[@whismerhillgaming]

the mini & micro ports are sad to see but this seems a superb QDOLED monitor I would definitely get it but 1 - it's not in my budget at all. 2 - I'd need two monitors, 1 for productivity & this QDOLED for entertainment/media consumption which makes it doubly expensive 3 - the reflectivity is a problem, as I don't like being forced to close the blinds and I prefer enjoying the light of day during the day but the perfect sRGB colors nearly out of the box & "automatic enabling of HDR" are a big plus in my book. keep up the great content

[@Fenlen]

Regarding the price, this monitor has been available here in Europe for a few months now and while it's initial price was indeed 1,500$, it has been on sale for most of the time (even now) at 1200$ bringing it in line with the AW3423DW (that one has also been on sale for quite a while now).

[@timytimeerased]

dwf was on sale 2 weeks ago on Dell's website. At least in France

[@marcel1463]

Today for under 1000€!

[@Drozdu15]

Just bought it for 860 euros. But Im not sure Im happy about it ;d Games look really nice but desktop not so

[@marcel1463]

@@Drozdu15 Where did you get it for this price? I want one too.

[@Drozdu15]

@@marcel1463 it was returned to shop :) Thats why so cheap. Anyways, I dont regret it! Its a great monitor. Actually bought 4080 as well. They both together do an amazing job 😎 Cyberpunk on full options is amazing! Great experience to have it at home

[@2techguys]

Samsung Support told me that Burn In is covered in the 3 year warranty in switzerland.

[@iben3271]

Not in Belgium

[@bereveanu]

Nor in Romania. This made me choose the DWF over this one, although I liked it quite a lot.

[@iben3271]

@@bereveanu managed to get the dwf 2 weeks ago for 1000 (student discount using my sisters school mail, didn't even ask proof or a login) and the g8 was 1250 with 2 years of warranty without burn in. Nobrainer tbh. Like it aswell, but hdr is not working for me at all, with weird washed out look.

[@bereveanu]

@@iben3271 First of all, update the firmware. Then, for HDR 1000, set contrast to 67 or 64, run the Windows HDR calibration tool and it should be more or less fine. They still have some work to do on it, for sure.

[@phader2]

@@iben3271 What site? Samsungs website or?

[@MegadetH666ksa]

I know what’s the issue with amd gpu greyed out when turning on freesync and HDR. To fix this first, turn on hdr on windows and freesync. Then go to adrenaline software and go to display settings. There’s an option called "custom color" that can enable you to customize the brightness, saturation and contrast. Enable the option then put the contrast to 198 or 200. That’s how i fixed mine on my odyssey neo g9 with my rx 6900xt.

[@reeced5521]

Or just get the Alienware DW and enjoy the monitor as intended without needing to wait for firmware updates, or having to do workarounds just to get something almost as advertised.

[@MegadetH666ksa]

@@reeced5521 that’s a freesync premium pro issue that should be acknowledged and it’s still exist with many monitors.

[@userdjee834]

Thank you for this 😊

[@OmegaImpulse]

I've been waiting for this review for a while. Thanks for the awesome video in advance

[@6stringmonk]

Another thing this monitor has over both AW models is that it ships with a traditional peel off screen protector. The AW models are notorious for screen scratches out of the box. I had to go through 4 AWs before I found one that was just acceptably scratched up.

[@majesticfrag7697]

What about fan noise?

[@HomeCinemaJunkie]

​@@majesticfrag7697As I understand thr coil whine is a bigger issue with that monitor.

[@DarthV506]

That's a large premium for a company that's had ongoing issues with their monitors. Kind of hard to beat the DWF when dell has it on sale + cashback and 3 year burn in warranty! Mine was 1000+tax CAD.

[@HomeCinemaJunkie]

If you can get an Alienware without scratches and coilwhine.

[@NoktiousGames]

I feel like ive waited forever for this review. Ive been hovering over the "checkout" button for a DWF for a while now, but wanted to get your comparison before deciding if Samsung packed $400 worth of stuff into theirs I'd care about. It looks like that isnt the case, it seems to have solidified the DWF as the monitor that makes the most sense to buy for me. Thanks for the very detailed and well done monitor reviews, it makes it much easier to make a purchase this big knowing how the competition stacks up.

[@GDub356]

I bought the DW non F for the gsync ultimate ( same panel as the dwf) and have used it for a week now. It’s absolutely unbelievable man. I came from the old Alienware ips ultrawide and the difference is staggering. Would absolutely recommend getting it if you’re still on the fence.

[@robf4512]

The DWF only achieves 100hz at 10bit hdr, and the DW 144hz in 10bit, while the oled g8 does all 175hz in 10bit. Oled g8 also has a quicker response time with no overshoot as well as lower input lag. I encourage anyone on the fence to visit rtings and compare monitors side by side before purchasing.

[@NorwegianImposter]

Conversely, I have the G8 OLED and its stunning and fantastic and silent. The HDR has been great for Hogwarts

[@izzetkstr]

@@robf4512 do you know whats the case with the msi?

[@elitelight233]

I have the dwf and honestly it’s the best monitor I’ve ever owned. Easy no brainer

[@murderone801]

Great detailed review, thank you! Is the AMD HDR issue fixed by now?

[@kev23dk]

Can you please do a best settings video for this monitor and what the different settings do and what are the optimal options for gaming vs desktop use. I just got it and all the things are a bit overwhelming!

[@buckhammer5897]

Amazon had a 24% off sale and I'm loving it! I feel like I'm way over OCD with burn in but it was such a game changer. It was such an upgrade from my old ROG 100HRTZ ultra wide LCD. Even the wife walks by and said how good the blacks look lol

[@born2serve92]

any burn in? I just bought this one on sale :)

[@userdjee834]

Owner here. Monitor is controlled with a small remote. It takes 15 (or 12 if you take the other slower route. There's the third route too - via the tiny joystick behind the monitor, worse than the remote option) steps of navigation through the menu to get to the BRIGHTNESS setting!!! FIFTEEN!!!! And then 5 (2) more to get out of it. While you do it, it completely covers the content as it covers most of the screen. Plus it's very easy to take a wrong turn while you do it, it's super annoying. Best part: on the remote there are unattributed buttons up-down-left-right on the control wheel, and I can't understand why brightness isn't there, as it's by far the most used function?!!?! It's nice that you have speakers, they are not great but they are OK, lacking in bass in particular, they absolutely could be much better for the price - laptop and tablet speakers have become really good. But: volume control is on the remote, but it's a small sturdy rocker, not the usual double up-down button. So I can't just press up and down 1000 times every day with my index finger while the remote is on my mouse mat - no, I have to reach for the remote and properly grab it so it doesn's slip - it's very small and slippery - and use my thumb to push the volume rocker up or down. Hilariously annoying. Oh, and if you think you'll be listening to music while you cook or something - nope, the screen turns off after 5min, and it turns off the music with it. It also confuses my streaming app so I have to restart it with several clicks afterwards.. Stand: foot is alu, but upright flat column is plastic, and it should be more stable, because the monitor bobs slightly million times a day. I touch the desk with my knee - bobbing - I set my arm on the desk to grab the mouse - bobbing again - etc. My desk could be heavier and perfectly stable, but this is still annoying as hell, and was never an issue before in 15+ years with this desk. It's just that the composite alu foot->plastic column has some give, it moves elastically a bit. Silver decorative line around the bezels - visible at all times, particularly the left and right silver upright lines - monitor is slightly curved and light is on them. A fail in design, as there are black bars on the sides most of the time. I have a huge amount of light coming in during the day, from my left, entire room length is in glass, and the QD-OLED's lack of polarizer isn't an issue really. It's noticeable, but not a big deal at all. I expected worse, having used LG CX OLED 55 TV previously. Compared to my Samsung Galaxy Tab S8 Ultra, or previous LG OLED TV, colours are burning red, it still throws me off, so annoying. Why does Samsung have to do that BS is beyond me. I'm not a calibrator, and don't want to endlessly play with the numerous settings as they are not easy to understand. Particularly I have the issue of migrating between modes - SDR/HDR etc. If I lower red or colour somehow in one mode, does it now apply to the other mode as well? Two days later I naturally don't remember which slider I moved or what was the initial factory setting etc. There are a lot of available settings, so that is a plus, provided I learn how to use them. Brightness in HDR content could be higher, but I'm talking only about small flashy features on screen. I'm sure my CX 55 TV was much brighter and punchier. I did carefully turn off all the energy saving features and the such, but it's still not there. Nominally, this should be at approx 1000 nits while my LG OLED TV was at approx 650. Maybe because the TV was much larger so it just seemed brighter? I don't know. Maybe it's just some of the numerous settings I should learn more about. And lastly - I was about to buy a 7900 XTX, Jeeez.. 🙄 Now I don't even know if I should be half angry at AMD or Samsung..or both.

[@nirwanaeathell]

thx for the review man, do u recommend this monitor ? do you consider $ 1500 worth it ? I'm thinking about getting one.

[@userdjee834]

@@nirwanaeathell No, I's a solid $1000 monitor, but the extra 50% are just huge profit margins for Samsung, nothing more. Buy a used one perhaps

[@Horned26]

Did they fix a issue with amd gpus? I am also to buy 7900xt . Somebody knows?

[@krazyfrog]

The mini ports seem to be for depth reasons rather than width reasons. The monitor doesn't even seem to have enough depth for the Mini DisplayPort, which is sticking out. Whatever they have behind the ports seems to be taking too much space and they didn't want to tarnish the design by making the monitor or the port area thicker.

[@EspHack]

yea that wifi antenna is totally worth it

[@dinospumoni8255]

Not sure about other countries, but in the US you can just select EDU discount and it takes $300 off this monitor and brings it down to $1199 which is a more fair price IMO. You don't actually need to be a student either.

[@chrisvicera6696]

I bought this monitor and have pretty much no regrets. I would have gotten the dwf, but for some reason the dwf is more expensive where I am lmao

[@jlee5990]

same here ..samsung one is on sale.. dwf is $200 more expensive :p

[@denkt]

No brainer, G8 looks better imo and additional features are a nice bonus

[@陈瑜-x7w]

I have this monitor since December last year ，after you see the picture quality ，you probably just forget all the flaws of this monitor 😊😊

[@maxramez]

Great video, would love to see a video with an OLED and a LCD display side to side.

[@drhello96]

It's been fun slowly watching all the LCD monitors be replaced by OLED over the last few months

[@NixTix98]

It's going to be fun seeing all the burn in people may or may not have in a year or two....

[@RCmaniac667]

I doubt lcd would be replaced by OLEDs considering its price difference and burn-in

[@Waldherz]

LCD is far from being replaced by OLED. Too expensive, draws way more power at times, burn in is stil a thing as my 3rd C2 can easily tell you.

[@gavinderulo12]

​@@Waldherz how did you manage to burn in multiple c2s? Watch the rtings burn in test it's basically impossible to create burn in in scuh a short amount of time even with heavy use, as long as you are a little careful.

[@Fran-kc2gu]

@@gavinderulo12yeah, looks like trash talking without even having one

[@robhewitt5640]

The 1000 nits is working now for me. I have 7900 xtx. Downloaded the HDR app from Windows store. set to 1000 nits and now showing 1000 nits under display settings. Although I think maybe I prefer the true black 400. This is via HDMI.

[@pjjacome1632]

Rite on seen your comment worked for me I prefer the 1,000 nits over the true black thing is super bright

[@ytdlder]

Really love this channel (as well as your main hardware one), and find the detailed reviews extremely valuable, as well as comparing several monitors, sometimes even months later; kudos! What I do lack though is more info on your settings. See, I just got this monitor. (gotta say, hate the UI "OS". Very laggy and unresponsive (push the menu button and it takes about 3 seconds to pop up) I couldn't find any link to an indepth article and even though not every monitor is exactly the same, I'd love to see your settings as well as your take on the different settings like Brightness & Contrast for a nice 6500K 150nits. Or if/when to use Contrast Enhancer (I thought that was a LCD feature to get deeper blacks, which shouldn't be needed for OLED?). Or how to use the Gamma settings; if I try to change it to 2.2 (from ST.2084), it says "function not available)? Also: what are the different Colour Space settings? In the video you mentioned that Auto is actually sRGB mode? Then What is Normal (Wide Color?) and Native? And is "Peak Brightness" the name for HDR1000 mode? Or how else do I change between this and the TrueBlack400 mode? Thanks & Cheers!

[@JehutyJP]

I'd like to second this notion!

[@cameronbosch1213]

I got mine at Best Buy on Black Friday 2023 for $1050 ($900 for the monitor plus $150 for a 4 year burn in coverage from Best Buy). Surprisingly, I can't notice the text fringing on Windows 11 or Linux or the polarizer light issues despite the issues with my room's lighting, and the smart TV functionality is really great. I currently use it as a TV first and as a gaming monitor second. (My previous TV was a Sharp TV from 2009 that actually had a built-in DVD drive, so this was a MASSIVE improvement going from that to the Samsung QD-OLED.)

[@simonkpchen8031]

Great review! I have been waiting for you guys to review this monitor since I am still considering which QD-OLED I should buy. It is interesting to hear that this Samsung variant is the most expensive model in US and AU. In the place, I live (Hong Kong), this Samsung model is the cheapest in the market. Dell is selling the AW3423DW for USD 2500 MSRP in HK, and you only get a discount if you are paying in cash (but it still cost $1800) and they don't even import the DWF model to the HK market. The MSRP of the Samsung Neo G8 OLED is only USD 1500 and comes with a Razer gaming headset as a gift. So different location has a very different situation, and now I am comfortable buying the Neo G8 OLED after watching this best review on KZbin. Thanks!

[@reeced5521]

So basically if you want the best experience from one of these QD-OLED monitors you should buy the original Alienware DW with the G-Sync module.

[@reeced5521]

@@spectre2484 with g-sync enabled it's basically the same. Even with it disabled, AC extra 4ms is not exactly noticeable xD

[@tryeasy1634]

@@reeced5521no, DWF after the latest firmware is just all around better than the DW.

[@mynameis______392]

please do an update about the insane coil whine on newer models

[@thisistimmy]

Really want to get a QD-OLED, but in a 4K high refresh package, so sticking to my trusty LG GN950. Was blown away when I saw one at Micro Center, just gorgeous.

[@xrix89]

Tim do you report your findings to manufacturers? I m just wondering if they know about these issues with AMD gpus and HDR so they can try to fix them.

[@ryuhayabusa5609]

Thanks for the amd gpu update on 19:16 . Are there further updates now on November 2024?

[@Gabu_Dono]

I'm curious whether Tim would prefer the OLED G8 to the Neo G7 for gaming.

[@SkoolKidzNerd]

This is exactly what I want to know. I want to know if it's an update to my neo g7 or not.

[@fueler5479]

I bought one here in Aus and have had it just about 1 month now. It's been a HUGE upgrade from my old 1080p 24inch 144hz TN panel. I was initially going to get the AW DWF but when i saw the G8 takes up 10cm less desk space(depth wise) and just the overall design, plus it came with a redemption offer for a $400 2tb M.2 SSD (which i need to upgrade my 500g one). So it kinda cost me the same as the DWF on special. Problems however.....did you guys experience the volume going up by 1 randomly? or mine also gets a multi-colored flashing line at the very bottom of the monitor from time to time which might just be a bad cable i'm not sure(bad mini port choice means i have no spare cables to test with) but unplugging and re-plugging the DP cable fixes it.

[@Dew4lk]

One of my friends had the same issue with the flashing line at the bottom of the monitor, he ended up returning it after sending it back once for diagnosing. You should probably do the same.

[@mattddoran]

I have the monitor and get that occasional bottom flicker across hdmi and dpi. I consider it firmware related as, as you said, replugging resolves it. Not enough for me to send it back… Do you have any good ways to switch inputs manually? I cannot believe the remote does not have a button for changing the source lol. I read somewhere you could use a different remote, but lost track of that thread.

[@chao807]

I have the flashing line issue too, however it only happens after messing with Wallpaper engine. Killing Wallpaper engine when that happens fixes that issue for me ~

[@BLCKVD]

I have that monitor volume going up time to time so I guess it’s firmware bug or something and I also have that flashing line at bottom of my screen at I have noticed that this happens when ever playing games in HDR and then running between windows and back into the game, but it always simply fixes for me when example in game where HDR enabled and it starts to do that flashing, i simply press windows logo on my keyboard to go back to windows, and then press game logo to go back into the game and then it’s gone, i don’t have to do anything else, ofc if this happens while in windows, then i usually restart monitor or restart pc, so it’s seems to be something with happening with windows 11 automatic HDR which I have enabled or that’s what I think, perhaps firmware update would make it gone But it’s surely is kind of BS that at this price need to deal with these kind of shit, my previous Samsung monitor also had all kinds of fuckery going time to time which would have made someone else get ridd off that monitor right away.

[@flyingpj]

The flashing line issue only happens on DP and not HDMI 2.1

[@danbernardi1]

I'd be interested to see if modern consoles have the same issues as desktop AMD gpus, seeing as they are also using AMD silicon. The hdmi 2.1 port makes this an interesting option for users who use the same screen for their PCs and consoles.

[@PainterVierax]

AFAIK there is no console that doesn't cap FPS above 120. More than that, this bug only appearing above 120fps kinda shows that this product was designed with consoles in mind, neglecting tests with PCs on AMD gpu.

[@mino4258]

I have this monitor ordered and after watching this I feel a lot better about it. Once I bought my OLED tv this past year my Samsung G7 just wasn't cutting it anymore. I honestly can't wait to get this monitor home and hooked up. Great vid as always!!!!

[@gwynkoo8890]

How is the monitor?

[@mino4258]

@@gwynkoo8890 I love it! Best picture I've seen on any monitor by far. You do have to play around with it to get it where you like but it is a wonderful picture once you dial it in!

[@gwynkoo8890]

@@mino4258 thats good to hear i want to buy so bad but so scared of no burn in warranty :(

[@Dyonivan]

I've been seeing a lot of people complaining about the monitor not waking up with the PC when in sleep mode, requiring a full restart of the PC. Have you experienced this?

[@mino4258]

@Dyonivan yeah it can be fussy sometimes. I run dual monitors and just use the OLED for gaming so if i'm not using it i shut it off with the remote. I've had zero problems since doing this

[@HomeCinemaJunkie]

Has the HDR issue been fixed now that the monitor support Freesync Pro?

[@Just_Pele]

This monitor is $800US with sales yesterday and today (and I had a $100 promo coupon) so I grabbed one to give it shot, looking forward to it.

[@TheBatracho]

Weird for a 34 inch monitor to not have a standard DP. Interesting you mention that plastic that looks like it needs to be peeled, I had the same exact experience with my LG34GP83AB, I though I needed to peel it but it clearly is just the coating.

[@adrianpadlan1258]

oh man the timing! been waiting for this review

[@Floridas_Natural]

wish they made a QLED version of this I would 100% buy it. I'm to worried about burn in to get a oled monitor

[@Fenlen]

I'm pretty sure the other G8 and G9 products are QLED even though that has been omitted from most of their marketing recently. Though I think they haven't made one in this form factor yet.

[@Сергей-о8в8г]

Please post the settings you tested this monitor with or what settings you would use it yourself.

[@Thomsi99]

yes pls :D

[@celtic78910]

Has this been fixed yet? Looking at getting a AMD 7900XTX to pair with this monitor.

[@justinpape5718]

I'm in the same boat. I love how there's been no follow up

[@cocoGioia]

Finally I was waiting for your review, there are still no QD-OLED monitors that are worth their price, if this monitor had cost 1000$ I would have bought it, it means that I will wait for 2024 and a more mature market for OLEDs, some fundamental characteristics are still missing such as brightness sustained of at least 400 nits and a peak brightness of 1400 nits, we will probably see them with the second or third generation of QD oled, standard subpixel layout, flexing screens for more monitors and permanent burn in warranty and mitigation are a must-have. We'll see what happens in the next 12 months.

[@ianocean420]

I really want to see the new Neo G7 if you're able. People are barely talking about it and I'm highly considering that monitor

[@DariusPL]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/iX7GcnWJqrB0gZI This one?

[@박현우-c1q5l]

I think burn in warranty depends on the region? Samsung provides a full 3 year warranty for burn in here in Korea.

[@dangos5129]

Does anyone know if they have fixed the issue with AMD GPUs. I got the G8 a few months ago and I've been considering buying a AMD card

[@bennagel1295]

best honest review I've seen thankyou

[@siruspan]

In stress test being conducted by rtings qd-oled tv's had permanent burn in after 2 months where LG's are still fine after 4 months. It's interesting to see how these monitors will hold up. Rtings also added the alienware to the test.

[@LeegallyBliindLOL]

yeah, they uploaded a new video about that. WOLEDs really do burn in waaaaaaaaaaay slower than QD-Oleds. Do keep in mind that those 2 months are supposed to simulate way longer running times, but still. I'm not touching a QD-OLED anytime soon, lmao. Pretty happy with my CX. 100 brightness, HDR, PC and movie usage for over a year. No burn in.

[@EarthIsFlat456]

So when they claimed QD-OLED is less susceptible to burn-in they were lying?

[@dariomladenovski7047]

​@@LeegallyBliindLOL yeah but WOLED's are also 500-600 nits dimmer compared to QD OLED, of course it will take more time for them to burn in

[@ultimategohan1551]

@@dariomladenovski7047 pretty sure rtings did the smart thing and tested all tvs/monitors with the same brightness

[@dariomladenovski7047]

@@ultimategohan1551 we don't know if they did, they didn't mention this very important fact

[@BelliSenior]

finally a review on this monitor, i will most likely end up getting the OLED G8 since Samsung official store sells it where I'm at (Indonesia) and finding a Alienware DW is near impossible for the same price or chapter than the G8 OLED since its all after market sellers

[@Napoleonic_S]

I'm indonesian too and already got this monitor, and as I said in my comment somewhere here, I got both wake up bug and rainbow line bug, here in indonesia we can't even get another unit from samsung lol, I mean the seller from tokopedia told me to go to samsung service center lol, those guys who work there I can bet they know nothing about this product, they only know galaxy phones lol... I can bet they don't even know anything PC related, how would I explain the issues I have, lol... for now I just use blank screensaver and limit my desktop to 120 hz... I hope those issues will get fixed with future firmware

[@mikehcl]

@@Napoleonic_S Bad experience, I live in Switzerland and they have already replaced my monitor twice for the same problems you have, unfortunately it is not a firmware problem but a hardware problem so it is not fixable with a firmware update. Now I got my money back and buy the alienware 3423dwf, no more Samsung!

[@Motion_God]

@@mikehcl it’s 100 dollars off today I just brought mine today

[@Napoleonic_S]

@@mikehcl Btw setting a custom 144 hz rres also avoid the rainbow line bug (so does using the 120 hz), so apparently only the 175 hz default res suffers from the bug. Also the bug somehow easily triggered by certain websites via chrome...

[@BelliSenior]

@@Napoleonic_S i didnt know the monitor was already for sale, samsung indonesia has it listed as pre order on their site tho or did you get it from third party vendor (tokped)

[@FrowningTaco]

I hate that the bezels aren't symmetrical on this otherwise great design.

[@Didact357]

Just picked this up yesterday open-box thru Best Buy right around $850. I ponied up another $150 for a 4 year warranty because I (very unfortunately) don't trust Samsung to take care of me in the event of burn-in. Effectively 33% off the retail, I feel like I stole the thing. Sales withstanding, the DWF is the most sensible purchase in my opinion

[@iatwiatw]

I've had this monitor for a week now. Some thoughts: 1. I solved the pink and green fringing on Windows on day one by turning the monitor's Sharpness setting all the way down to zero. I'm not claiming that will work for everyone, but I swear to you text on this monitor is not an issue at all. 2. I don't know why this is happening, but for some reason if my connected PC or MacBook go to sleep, the monitor will not be able to detect them again when they wake back up. Even if I reset the monitor by powering it off then on. The only way I've been able to get around this is by unplugging and re-plugging the monitor, which of course is a dumb solution. 3. This is my first OLED monitor, and so now I'm hyper aware of all the static elements on screen. Forget about the taskbar or the menu bar on Mac; you can easily hide those. I'm talking about the tabs on your browsers, the menus and title windows of applications, the HUD in games, and even the gap between application windows where your wallpaper peeks through. There are so many static elements onscreen. Fortunately, it's still very easy to make sure I refresh the screen. I can turn it off, show my black desktop background, start my screensaver, or even just play a fullscreen video (just make sure the video has no watermarks or icons on it like in many KZbin videos). 4. The speakers are surprisingly usable. 5. The smart functionality is useless at best and an unnecessary extra step to switching inputs at worst. It really shouldn't be here. I know nothing is perfect, but this smart shit could've easily been scrapped with no tradeoff. 6. The ports are indeed weird and scarce. Shopping for a high quality microHDMI adapter is a daunting task with the online market flooded with marketing blurbs and unclear descriptions. The included miniDP to DP cable works fine, but if that ever breaks I'm going to be pissed. I also would've liked to have even just one USB-A port on such an expensive device, but, oh well. 7. As someone who used to use a 43" monitor as my main display (Aorus FV43U), this widescreen format is so much more practical for work. It just is. My eyes and neck are extremely grateful for this change, not just because of the more realistic vertical and corner distances, but also because the FV43U is stupidly bright and loud. It's too good for its own good, and is not meant to be used up close. 8. QD-OLED is QD-OLED: - Amazing visuals - Usable but not ideal in full daylight or bright light - Extremely responsive in games (to the point where things actually slowed down for me in Wo Long: Fallen Dynasty because I can react and match my inputs better) - Hilariously black black where there's zero difference between showing my black desktop background and turning the monitor off. Recommendation: If you're on a budget, practical, anxious, or not willing to take extra care of your devices, this monitor is not for you. Even as I type this, I'm wasting brain cells being conscious of how long the static elements here on this KZbin tab alone have been here, the other browser window I have on the other side, and all the tabs on top. This works for me because I can't work or game for long stretches anymore. I want to walk around and take a break every 2 hours or so, which means I can easily mitigate burn-in without changing my routine or getting too annoyed at the irony of the direct proportion between price and fragility.

[@greenjoyce3001]

I just bought one of these and have yet to really test it or game on it, but based on my research so far, the below are the recommended settings for the best HDR results. Please chime in if you have different/other recommendations. Thanks! Custom Picture mode Game mode set to on Peak Brightness set to high Game Hdr set to off HDR10+ Gaming set to advanced Color Space set to auto Reduce Colour setting to 18

[@obim4108]

Do you set in game sliders to 1000 nits? That's what I'm running but things like HDR image viewer in windows 10 report it back as only being HDR400 so I'm not sure if stuff is being clipped or not. On nvidia so it's not the and issue.

[@greenjoyce3001]

@@obim4108 Sorry buddy, I haven't yet gone down the path of trying to verify the nits being outputted.

[@wile123456]

I still can't get over how Samsung Display sells their panels more expensive to Samsung Electronics, compared to other companies 😂

[@N0N0111]

And their quality control is to bare none these days.

[@michaelthompson9798]

Definitely sone great features ……however, price and varying GPU manufacturers hdr brightness issues in conjunction with the poor warranty is a ‘no go’ from me.

[@j3t_stream]

Hey there! Could you maybe revisit this monitor, there have been alot of firmware updates and Im pretty sure many of this options dont work the same as they did on release. I would love to have the hdr gaming options debunked and find the best settings for hdr gaming and movie watching. On mine hdr gaming locks peak at 400 or so it seems on the hdr calibration tool. But with game hdr options disabled it unlocks peak to 2000(or so it seems). I would really love a proper analysis on this. thank you fw:1602

[@SovereignRO]

I bought this and...I have 0 complaints, except maybe the price. Text looks ok to me, I dont notice any friging of any kind. And the HDR, clarity and response time are uncomparable. And i come from a 240Hz Odyssey g7. Reflections really are not as much of an issue people seem to be making out to be, this is my first glossy display and i dont have any issues with reflections.

[@Dyonivan]

Are you on an Nvidia GPU? Been researching for a friend for her first high-end monitor, but she's on a 7900 XTX AMD GPU.

[@SovereignRO]

@@Dyonivan yes, on a 4080, and if she decides to get one, also buy a good compatible hdmi cable, it improves text clarity and fixes the standby wakeup issue.

[@cr0mag732]

Any updates on firmware drivers for AMD users?

[@snowdawn]

Excellent review Tim. Thank you.

[@Napoleonic_S]

I got this monitor where I live and got the wake up bug and rainbow line bug, very frustrating, have to use blank screensaver and limit my fps to 120 to avoid both... there's literally no RMA on where I live, but this is also literally the only ultrawide real HDR capable monitor I can buy officially... I hoper these bugs can be fixed in the future...

[@Motion_God]

The Alienware version doesn’t ship to your country

[@Napoleonic_S]

@@Motion_God Only unofficially... And at 2000 USD equivalent rice lol...

[@andreicasupop3983]

I have same issues. Don't bother with RMA. I sent mine to RMA in my country and official Samsung response was that there is nothing wrong with my monitor. I talked with the representative and they said there is nothing they can do. Seeing as how so many people have this issue, it is clear that the fault is hardware based. I would not recommend anyone to buy this as it is a lottery for what they [Samsung] had the audacity to call a premium product. I compiled a list of all the issues I found from my use and online forums and sent it directly to consumer rights protection. Doubt anything will be solved in the end, but Samsung is clearly selling broken units and don't want to bother with the fallout. After the Samsung Pro 990 SSDs fiasco, they blunder yet again.

[@ianbrinkley5968]

So I bought an lg 27” oled monitor online from Best Buy and it came in with a bent screen so I returned it in store and was going to get another one of the same. Then this was like an extra $100 so I went for it and I’m super happy I did, it fixed all the things I was worried ab wth the lg, mainly the matte screen and brightness. And it’s a lot bigger. I upgraded from a z edge 32” 1080 p to this, and I don’t see how this is supposed to be 2” bigger it’s damn near twice the size of my old one it caught me off guard. But if you guys are on the fence it’s definitely worth it imo it felt like switching from a crt to a flatscreen for the first time it’s actually insane how nice these things look

[@rcole134]

Interesting monitor. Here in the UK it costs just under £1300 which is around the same as the Alienware alternatives.

[@stu2574]

The Alienware’s are £900 and £1000 aren’t they? Still a big difference between them

[@rcole134]

@@stu2574 I just saw the Alienware QDOLED non Nvidia version going for around £1060 on Amazon which reads like a decent deal providing it's not a scam of course lol. seem these 34" QDOLED's release at £1300 and then drop after a few months with deals etc.

[@datscreaminonion]

I just got this one for 899. Add the best buy 4 year warranty for burn in coverage and it came in at 1100. I like it way more for the built in TV OS

[@whaleman103]

I love this display,despite some weirdness with choice of ports, questionable smart tv features, where KZbin is the only app I found truly supporting the format, but WiFi firmware is amazing. I do have one question though, the poor AMD HDR performance, is there a way to enable the same behavior on nVidia cards? While I love the look and feel of HDR, I have a neurological disorder that makes me sensory sensitivity, and the high peak brightness is murder for my eyes. In some games I’ve found I have better control of this, but there doesn’t seem to be any global settings. This is however my first foray into true HDR gaming, I always had it disabled on older display due to lack of even local dimming, and even now I have to toggle HDR on with win-alt-B before starting a game because Windows looks horrible in HDR mode… TLDR: is there an option on the display to limit max brightness in HDR to say 400 nits? (which is a lot brighter than the 120 I calibrate all my displays to for SDR normally)

[@matthew2182]

I noticed HDMI looks better than display port using HDR. Using the Windows HDR calibrator over display port limits the Darks to 0.50 and lights to 400 while HDMI can hit Darks 0.0 and lights up to 800. I'm not sure what causes that; adaptive sync works perfect over HDMI but make sure to keep 'VRR control' turned off in monitors menus or you'll get VRR flicker. The coresynsc was why I picked this monitor but it doesn't seem to work in any way that warrants it's existence as a feature. It doesn't change color to match the content on screen but just pulses a dim bluish light sampled from the center of the screen somewhere. I'm happy with the purchase besides my small gripe over coresync. There are some QOL issues with having to use both the knob and remote to navigate the option menu and the smart TV side of things is extremely laggy and easy to activate when fumbling with the remote. Other than that... it's the best looking screen I've ever owned. :)

[@tivtag]

How is eye fatigue for you with this OLED? Thanks 🙏

[@matthew2182]

@@tivtag Not too bad... mainly squint if it's a dark scene with bright highlights. I have some blue light filter glasses and there's a minor color difference (better) when looking at the screen.

[@tivtag]

@@matthew2182 thanks! I heared some bad reports about eye fatigue that affects some but not all users

[@matthew2182]

@@tivtag Probably might have to do with text fringing... I bought it with gaming in mind but the subpixel layout causes green and pink outlines on text. It's a windows problem with the pixel layout on the monitor being so new. It doesn't bother me much but doing any kind of work on this monitor might cause eye strain.

[@tivtag]

@@matthew2182 Yes! I researched this a bit! Think we can be glad, that it works fine for us. For some they get major issues after just 5 minutes of use! The eye 👁️ strain community believes a few things that might cause their eye strain: OLED also has this dimming flicker every refresh cycle. You can film with with a camera with 1/8000 shutter speed. For some the high contrast actually makes them tired, but this can be reduced by reducing brightness or installing a bias light. The high color volume or color width is tiring for some, can’t fix this easily. Others can’t handle the glare of a glossy screen (no issue with this screen). And especially with QD-OLED the pixel structure might create a problem where the eye can’t focus on it. Others believe that the blue light 💡 of WD-OLED is the reason.

[@carlosvn1]

Finally this review is out. I can finally make my decision on the monitor, for my 7800X3D+7900XTX build. Thank you for the great work, as always.

[@cocoGioia]

They said there is some problem in HDR data stream for amd cards in this monitor

[@The_Obvious_Solution]

Good review. I just grabbed this for $999 today!

[@martinesquivel5434]

Thanks a lot for this review. Hopefully they take the criticism to heart about this monitor and fix it this time next year. A 240 4k OLED that is more oriented towards monitor use rather than trying to force it into an all around tv/monitor would be great. I would pay 1700-1900 for a monitor with those specs. Tho a nice discounted monitor in the holidays would not be bad for this one.

[@FarAway88]

thanks for a great review like always :) In Europe samsung have almost always sell on G8 old its about the same price as aw3423dwF, MSI-oled cost about 300USD more, I know it's crazy

[@tony18mo]

have it been fixed for AMD?

[@maiz3558]

did you find out?

[@GammaTheBanana]

@@maiz3558 Yes, it's fixed

[@GammaTheBanana]

Yes, it's fixed

[@megamanx1291]

Give me some insight, where do you base that information from? ​@@GammaTheBanana

[@Airbag888]

Wheeeeen are we getting the ultimate QD OLED with normal RGB arrangement and decent pixel shifting to avoid burnin as much as possible

[@RadialSeeker113]

For those who dont know, QD OLED is currently experiencing extremely fast burn in from constant white static elements due to the lack of a white led. Just be careful of burn in and dont expect it to last longer than 3-4 years for $1500

[@iikatinggangsengii2471]

any electronic device should always keep 'charged'/filled with electricity to sustain its performance, might be the case for oled so dont cut power just keep standby mostly on audio devices (dac, amplifier, headphone etc) mine could take whole day to get back to its normal sound after power loss

[@RCmaniac667]

rtings?

[@RadialSeeker113]

@@iikatinggangsengii2471 the electricity is causing individual pixels to fade. In this case, less power is actually better

[@gigiacoma2231]

Got it before Christmass. 10% down and phone which i sold. 1000€ not a bad deal for this monitor.

[@jhanninnen]

After seeing the rtings qd-oled burn in test, I don't think this monitor will age well

[@frag132]

in fact, the little plastic bar that runs along the panel on the bottom edge does have a little plastic to remove over it. it's horrible and you have to go at it with tweezers but it has to be removed properly 👍 just be careful when removing it, as the shiny part underneath must not move

[@DanielDCotta]

I bought it because I liked the design of it... sometimes specs are not the only consideration

[@r1pperduck]

It has great specs too, i just bought the dwf and i love it, but i like the look of the g8 more. Hopefully they both benefit from firmware updates in the near future.

[@jacksonbhatti840]

I have checked with Samsung support in UK and they have confirmed that the burn in is covered in the 3 year warranty. Also, people in forums have stated that Windows 11 does not have a text issue. Are you aware of this? Please could you do a dedicated video for the best HDR settings for this monitor on Windows 11? Thanks Tim for all the hard work on monitor reviews. I think you are the best in the industry when it comes to monitors.

[@TheHighborn]

That title is mildly infuriating. But if it's true..... it's true. We'll see edit: now i get it. Thank you for the review. I'm planning to get the DWF but still man....

[@SpectreDusk]

Currently on Amazon Spring Sale in the UK down to £999 if that tempts anyone on the fence particularly regarding the price. I was going to get this but the burn in risk for my use case worries me and I think I'd rather spend the cash on a 38" LG GN950-B, better resolution, larger screen space, no burn in risk. HDR I can happily compromise on at the moment.

[@McMaxW]

Wow… another review of an affordable monitor that we can all buy!

[@MistyKathrine]

Can usually find an LG C2 for nearly half the price.

[@McMaxW]

@@MistyKathrine Yeah and apparently LG panels are better than Samsung ones.

[@MistyKathrine]

@@McMaxW Yep.

[@27klickslegend]

You can get sweet deals if your workplace is a Samsung partner here in New Zealand, makes it about $1100 USD equivalent? which is great because we usually pay much more than just converting USD to NZD for tech here.

[@tehehe5929]

Stuff like this is why everybody prefers NVidia.

[@WyattOShea]

@CaptainMcShotgun Lol my 6900xt that's as fast as 3090ti in rasterization doesn't seem worthless to me.

[@WyattOShea]

@CaptainMcShotgun Ok.

[@MistyKathrine]

@CaptainMcShotgun I always want AMD to do well but they always manage to find a way to screw it up.

[@TheHalo294]

please make a follow up to this monitor, when the amd nvidia problem is resolved

[@OZEEtube]

Just returned my 27“ LG OLED, since the screen coating ruined it for me. The reduced price of 1100 + the design made me chose this over an Alienware or MSI. Image look much more impressive, especially with the glossy screen and the product looks like a sleek office monitor.

[@sam7670]

Hesitant to buy this however i bit the bullet and wow its amazing. 6800 xt with 5800x. Picture is unreal. no issue with brightness, so good

[@royg9422]

Hello, do you have problem like this video said? at 17mins or so, that with AMD your fps limited to 120 only?

[@Faiyazamit]

just got it for AUD$1,299 here in Australia. let's see how it goes!

[@ronreflex]

must admit , EXCELLENT REVIEW !

[@theonlyone38]

As soon as I saw the mini displayport, it was game over for me.

[@seppotaalasmaa8432]

I went to this monitor. Its now 699€ on bf sale here in finland. Wanted 32” 4k 240hz oled, but cant justify over double price of them.

[@kicheonshema5063]

Got this monitor now at $720 before tax through edu price and Rep discount. I think this price is a steal for this monitor despite it has some lacks on compatibility in ports and concerns for burn-in.

[@LumpywigglerMC]

Tim, can you please share what OSD adjustments you made to get the more accurate white balance?

[@jameshigh9856]

Great review. Thank you. What is the paint video called shown on the monitor in this review. Can i get my hands on it and how ? Can it be Used as a screen saver ?

[@evalmighty543]

It’s hard to beat the DWF. With 3 year warranty, firmware updates. With cash back I got it for about $720 out the door…I don’t see getting another OLED for that anytime soon

[@Bretton549]

How does the cash back work? I don't see anything on the dell page about it.

[@evalmighty543]

@@Bretton549 it would be capital one that offers it. Not Dell specifically, I believe if you have an AMEX card they do run a deal as well where it’s 20 or 30% cash back. One of those 2 for Amex

[@LockeNL]

Bought this monitor for 1229€ in the Netherlands a few months back. Price has been at that price since

[@TheGreendroid]

I must say Im surprised I didnt hear more negatives about the color accuracy of this monitor. In HDR, even after setting the color space to Auto, most games and desktop apps have colors so saturated that even for a laik (me) this looks very bad. I could directly compare it to LG C2 and the difference is insane out of the box and even after heavily optimising the settings, calibrating the display thru Windows utility and downloading a color profile, the G8 still looked awful in HDR Game mode and even in the HDR Graphic mode. Adding numerous problems like not being able to wake up when connected via DP, Wi-Fi connection, slow and unresponsive menus and remote, and the fact it needed motherboard, power supply AND panel replacement during the first 2 months I have used it, I ended up switching permanently to C2 and selling the G8. Based on my experience and not being an expert, I only recommend using this for non-HDR gaming and only if you can get it on sale or bundled (I got it for ∼ $1000 + free Galaxy A53, so a good deal). Hope this helps somewhat.

[@SchmidtP89]

I think the issue some people run into is relying on an auto-setting that isn't good, and then trying to calibrate by eyesight alone, or downloading calibration profiles that were made for other monitors of the same model. Neither option is valid, but are tempting to use for some. The only way to calibrate is to use hardware tools with specialized software (not windows) and create a profile that is made only for your specific monitor (or use the built-in software on some monitors, which is preferable). Color calibration is something that seems reasonable at first, but it's a bit of a rabbit hole when you start to dig into it and understand the tools and limitations more. The other issues seem more "real" though, and it's a shame Samsung haven't improved their quality control.

[@TheGreendroid]

Believe me, I didnt dig into any specific calibration until I tried everything possible within the monitor’s menu. Compared to other monitors and TV I have own, this was by far the most difficult to setup and even after that the image looked terrible. I am discribing the HDR mode, non-HDR looks ok to me