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Is Homosexuality Natural?

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Prof. Sam Vaknin

Prof. Sam Vaknin

Күн бұрын

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@noreenryan1144
@noreenryan1144 10 ай бұрын
Thanks Sam for an intellegent and enlightenrng perspective on this complex part of humanity
@fabolvaskarika7940
@fabolvaskarika7940 10 ай бұрын
Honestly I expected strong opposition from you regarding homosexuality. It was a pleasant surprise and a very good reasoning from more aspects. I had the same idea, but couldn’t not put it down so nicely and professionally as you did.
@fabolvaskarika7940
@fabolvaskarika7940 10 ай бұрын
@@jamesmccaul2945 or maybe just my English is not so good…
@charliefarlie2884
@charliefarlie2884 9 ай бұрын
Why would you expect Sam to speak on a subject and suddenly suspend good reasoning.
@fabolvaskarika7940
@fabolvaskarika7940 9 ай бұрын
@@charliefarlie2884 maybe because it’s not his special interest. He is about narcissism and only because he is a narcissist, not because he has a degree in psychology. Also some homophobe has good reasoning skills and seems logical, just not factual and their conclusion is difference. On top of that the best scientists have their own bias, so it’s entirely possible that someone is smart, knowledgeable, can reasoning but has a totally different views on certain topics.
@fabolvaskarika7940
@fabolvaskarika7940 Күн бұрын
@@fnordipard did you read the thread? There is the answer. Factual? Only as much as a narcissist can be.
@cybersnap6072
@cybersnap6072 10 ай бұрын
"The genetic material of the homosexual is not propagated and is effectively excluded from the big roulette of life. Growers - of anything from cereals to cattle - similarly use random culling to improve their stock. As mathematical models show, such repeated mass removal of DNA from the common brew seems to optimize the species and increase its resilience and efficiency." In my opinion this is the most compelling point in the article but I would really love to see a source about farmers using random culling and the mathematical models that are referenced. Would anyone be able to point me in the right direction?
@samvaknin
@samvaknin 10 ай бұрын
Literature here: samvak.tripod.com/sexnature.html
@DennisNelson-ee2il
@DennisNelson-ee2il 10 ай бұрын
I think there are probably more people who have either engaged in same sex activity,or at least contemplated the idea,than they'd admit.
@audie-cashstack-uk4881
@audie-cashstack-uk4881 10 ай бұрын
In childhood experimentation it's said to be 50% so let's say you experimented at a early age or actually had sex at a early age its far far far more likely it ws with a same sex friend than not.. say out camping one night a sleep over a day out in the park. Etc it's far more likely this happened with a same sex person . I had sex and experimented and ws very forward sexually as a 70s 80s kid and I'm aware of many cases were freinds had let's say Bummed one another it was far far more common and open I council,estates working class areas of England.. I infact didn't do this but was a ware that most of the gossip stoeys and evidence pointed to it I infact also had lots of early experimentation starting at around 6 yrs old but mine wer always girls. I also had many boys try it with me all the way upto 16yrs old at school and ws aware of there actions with other boys... its commonsesne that early encounters would be more likely same sex... mine were not first girl was very forward and we copied porno mags found in her parents bedroom in the garden shed and at sleep overs my second was a girl over the back fence back yard in her dad's chicken hutch. And so on.. to this day age 51 I remember all the boys who had BUMMED ONE ANOTHER back then and giggle to myself when seeing them or hearing about them on e of them has just died poor fella i flet sad for him and hos life as he became lonely sad and druggy but thought well no more bum fun for marry poor dude.. as a way to lighten the news to my self.. i had numerous boys thru childhood atemt the let's touch each others dicks together and bum. I remember then all 90% grew up to be straight cpl of them wee infact gays... one kid who tried the touch cockspur together and other such thongs with me I knew full well had done or tried to with about 6 other boys he loked like madiki from children of the corn and grew up to be very ugly.. mbut I know full well his dick is huge I'm talking a 12 inches thick as a beer can huge one night in a sleep over were a older girl promised him sex she thru him out the room likely after seeing it.. he ran info the other bedroom were me and my younger brother were sleeping he was 14 at tne time I had no idea a penis xould even be that big. My brother spent the rest of the night reminding g me endlessly about ifs size and how I must be dreaming about it both of us laughing are heads of even now decades later my brother refers to it endlessly and its still dam funny 😂😂😂😂😂
@garki1369
@garki1369 14 күн бұрын
Obviously there are more than would admit to it, by what degree?
@byron739
@byron739 9 күн бұрын
...specially the gals. Self proclaimed str8 ones goes full bi/lez mode in 3somes/4some/orgies!🫢
@maddiredfern
@maddiredfern 10 ай бұрын
When I saw the title of the video I was afraid of what you would say about the subject but you have truly surprised me. Your insight and perspective on this is interesting and thought provoking. I am a gay woman and I have heard a lot of arguments for and against homosexuality but you mentioned many positive reasons it occurs that I had not heard of before. Thank you for sharing your thoughts.
@NicoleWest-ly4bd
@NicoleWest-ly4bd 10 ай бұрын
Interesting take. I agree with it totally.
@twebber1000
@twebber1000 10 ай бұрын
Greece surprises me with the delay to allow same sex marriages... having read greek mythology.
@Sn00pyGRL
@Sn00pyGRL 10 ай бұрын
And greek history. Mythology is fairytales. Greek history is real however 😉
@ivanabec9645
@ivanabec9645 10 ай бұрын
As war as I know, todays Greeks are not the same people as the ancient ones.
@TraciDoering-hw8hu
@TraciDoering-hw8hu 10 ай бұрын
The ancient Greeks were White, white Israel - the only Israel people. Real history , migrations, archaeology, and all Scripture proves this @@ivanabec9645
@Leonidas_Papadakis
@Leonidas_Papadakis 10 ай бұрын
@@ivanabec9645 Ancient Greeks and modern Greeks are the same people, a connection substantiated by DNA analysis. Even Slavic people in the Balkans carry Greek DNA due to historical interactions; 30% of Greek DNA is found in Slavic populations in the Balkans. As Greeks, we not only share genetic ties but also speak a language akin to ancient Greek, using the same alphabet. Before making uninformed comments, it's important to educate oneself-I can even comprehend ancient Greek.
@Leonidas_Papadakis
@Leonidas_Papadakis 10 ай бұрын
@@debbiemohiosen147 In ancient Greece, homosexuality was celebrated, influenced by gods like Zeus, who was bisexual. Artifacts like vases depicted explicit scenes, including homosexual acts. Women had limited rights, seen mainly as child-bearers. Pederasty was a practice where successful men mentored young men, both emotionally and sexually. Marriages were common between men and women, but relationships between men were often considered more equal. Women were unfortunately marginalized, lacking power in society. This reflects the societal norms of that era.
@prismbrandingrealestatebra6301
@prismbrandingrealestatebra6301 10 ай бұрын
You are bold to even discuss this topic. It is radioactive to discuss such topics where I am from. You would probably lose your job or get expelled.
@P3rrineLover
@P3rrineLover 10 ай бұрын
So close minded…
@apsifox5874
@apsifox5874 10 ай бұрын
Where you are from doesn't look like a beacon of education and or open mindedness, your from a puddle filled with dogma it seems.
@not-a-cupid-stunt
@not-a-cupid-stunt 3 ай бұрын
I'd share this with my hetero brother to get him to understand I'm not as faulty as he thinks I am...but unfortunately anything with the word homosexuality in the title means he's not interested & he won't open it. Oh well, and as he says about me & my gayness (and also his diabetes), "it is what it is". At least I know I'm okay, even if he (probably) never will. I can't keep forever running around trying to save people from themselves & their ignorances. I've got a big enough job on my hands just trying to save myself...
@mikibellomillo
@mikibellomillo 9 ай бұрын
i was reading Maureen Canning book about sexualized anger and it helps me a lot to cure my unhealthy fantasy in sex. that book helps me understand that my fantasy was triggered by my pain, the image that triggers my arousal feeling was actually the manifestation of my childhood pain. maybe it sounds a bit personal, but i want to share it as educational purpose. i'm a woman and i used to liking woman with big b**bies, i used to think that i'm a lesbian, but then i realized i'm a straight, i love man, but woman with huge b**bies was a part of my first interaction with p*rn. i have big wound of being abused by my parents, and the facial expression of the actress in the video i had watched when i was teen was triggering a sensation of power and control. i've got satisfaction from seeing someone "in pain" because i was in pain too. when i successfully connect to that memory and build a new narrative or understanding about that moment the image of woman with big b**bies doesn't arouse me anymore. it just plain. no feeling. since then, i've got a different perspective about homosexuality. i was reading a journal about homosexuality in nature, there's some debate on experts, but that journal helped me understand that there's some natural factor in homosexuality. but since i've got "healed" i knew that there's also some psychological factor that can help people to really find themselves and maybe they can be reproductive again by choosing being straight. i'm not saying that being straight is better than homo, but rooting sexual desire to childhood pain is not healthy. i experienced it myself, that's why i talked about it now. i wish something can cut the core of pain of this society. we can talk about equality, about self-acceptance, about self-love, but all those beautiful labels will end-up being narcissistic things when deep inside we're lost. that's what i think. based on my personal experience only.. 😊 thank you for sharing this topic, professor. by listening to your explaination, i think the debate i read on that journal has ended now.. lol!😂
@annagramm8640
@annagramm8640 7 ай бұрын
You can not choose to be straight. Some are attracted to men as well as women = bisexuality. Internalised homophobia/biphobia might be interesting topics for you. And there are also lesbian/bi couples with children, if being reproductive is important.
@mikibellomillo
@mikibellomillo 7 ай бұрын
@annagramm8640 first of all, i'm not homophobic. i love seeing people who can accept themselves and find happiness in their own color. i was talking about it because i used to live in that confusing state where accepting myself is shameful. but then, i had that moment of rewriting my memory and that strong feeling truly gone. once the pain is "cured", the fun is gone. that's what i had experienced at least. second, being reproductive--in terms of having child--is not the main problem/goal. i had checked my writing and i said "maybe" because i know being reproductive is not that simple when we have sexual wound, but if they're able to be reproductive when being straight again from homo, it should be a good sign of being healed i guess. the main is being healed from the wound. some sexual wounds are too deep to be healed, it might cause problems in human to human interactions. i was sharing my story because i watched so many videos of pride community people being overly angry or overreacting to comments against them. being angry when we're under attack is normal, but when a simple gesture of others already trigger our sensitivity, i don't think it's healthy, and it only ruined the pride community itself. they even got labeled as woke people and even got mocked because of their "overly" reaction. this is what makes me sad, and push me to share my story. i personally believed that angry is a sign of deep wound. when our wound is being touched, we have tendency to overly react to something, even in small thing. and this is what makes me think that maybe some people are actually normal/straight, but they think they're homosexual because they're lost in their sexual wound (like me), not because of natural genetic thing. i don't mind about homosexual community. thanks for your reply. i'm not native English, so i hope my explanation is clear enough for you.
@annagramm8640
@annagramm8640 7 ай бұрын
​@@mikibellomillo Thanks for your calm explanation. I'm also not a native speaker and hope my text will be ok. Yes, there is lot's of anger, pain and often trauma in majorities but also more awareness and selfworth for setting boundaries. We all (queer/straight) have to learn how to communicate good with each other when topics are emotional. I'm grateful being a lesbian woman and I worried about you, because I thought, that you might still be in a denial phase of your se+ual orientation. Sorry for analysing you without being asked, your story seems complex and of course you are the expert for your journey. Best wishes to you, that you can life your own colour happily.
@mikibellomillo
@mikibellomillo 7 ай бұрын
@annagramm8640 no, it's okay. my statement might easily be misunderstood that i'm a lesbi, but i find comfort in being straight, and that's only a past experience for me. i'm sorry if you find it annoying because it seems too personal or inappropriate to share. i share it for educational purposes only. yes, emotionally triggered when our pain's being touched might lead us to irrational behavior or throwing irrational arguments, and i saw it a lot in woke people videos. personally, i feel sad seeing them being framed in shameful situations. i don't understand western culture, but in my very own perspective, instead of judging or comparing their ability to rationalize situations, better if we can read their pattern of arguments or listen to their story, so then we can understand their pattern of thinking and what's hurting them. it might help them calm themselves by giving them the feeling of being accepted, maybe it can calm their defensive mode. what's the point of having better rational thinking when the best thing we can do is only pushing our idealism about normality in abnormal situations? i find it sad, but also funny.
@tpmyoutube702
@tpmyoutube702 13 күн бұрын
I bought your Book about narcisist. .love it ❤
@samvaknin
@samvaknin 13 күн бұрын
Would be grateful if you could leave a review on the Amazon page of the book.
@tpmyoutube702
@tpmyoutube702 13 күн бұрын
@samvaknin I will thanks it IS well written...i will leave a review. I juste started to read it !
@tpmyoutube702
@tpmyoutube702 11 күн бұрын
@@samvaknin I have done it and bought the Book because of your youtube videos which helped me so much understand the narcisist mind ! Hello from France !
@samvaknin
@samvaknin 11 күн бұрын
@@tpmyoutube702 Thank you.
@mynameismarko
@mynameismarko 7 ай бұрын
Thank you 😊
@kippen64
@kippen64 10 ай бұрын
Bonding.
@andrewcerrone4096
@andrewcerrone4096 10 ай бұрын
Great topic ! Thankyou
@hollygolightly6243
@hollygolightly6243 10 ай бұрын
Thank you ❤
@w.urlitzer1869
@w.urlitzer1869 9 ай бұрын
homosexuality is found in nature, so it s natural.
@mekylieme
@mekylieme 10 ай бұрын
All I know is DL men better keep their distance from moi. And just wanted to say how much I enjoy your channel. Thank you for the observation!
@lisafenerty8625
@lisafenerty8625 2 ай бұрын
I'm surprised that some of those posting here were surprised by Sam Vaknin's opinion on this topic. I expected the information provided and I'm grateful to him for posting it.
@NoviusInfernalBerserk
@NoviusInfernalBerserk 10 ай бұрын
Considering the current circumstances, not reproducing is actually a big aid to society. As long as we aren't able to live on more planets, there is no point in increasing population any further.
@Woodsie_Lord
@Woodsie_Lord 10 ай бұрын
Considering the current circumstances, reproducing is actually a big aid to society since in all 1st world nations average age is getting older.
@kukuyeah
@kukuyeah 10 ай бұрын
The problem is that collapsing birthrates in developed nations will not lead to a shrinking population, but that there will just be less educated people that are capable to run and maintain complex societies and economies, and a growing mass of uneducated, poor, starving people in the global south that will be forever trapped in their misery.
@P3rrineLover
@P3rrineLover 10 ай бұрын
Human sexual encounters are not just for reproduction anyways.
@ob2249
@ob2249 10 ай бұрын
@@kukuyeah I think the criticaI "mass" 0f the w0rId`s uneducated is aIready c0ncentrated in the u s and they aint p00r
@pqt112
@pqt112 10 ай бұрын
​@@kukuyeahforever? All developed nations were poor at some point. Your time has come and gone. It's time for a new empire
@iamharpermonroe
@iamharpermonroe 10 ай бұрын
I have been following your content since the start of your channel, I think. You're great! I'm a trans woman, and I'm curious to know about your research on transexualism in general. It's a relatively new societal phenomena or whatever, I guess. I'll revisit your channel to see what I can find!
@samvaknin
@samvaknin 10 ай бұрын
Good idea. Search the channel for “trans”.
@Astral_Dusk
@Astral_Dusk 10 ай бұрын
Imagine the world population count if nobody was ever homosexual
@Hypothetical-Being
@Hypothetical-Being 9 ай бұрын
It wouldn’t be much higher
@stellamarina.
@stellamarina. 10 ай бұрын
Bravo Greece!
@belindared3389
@belindared3389 10 ай бұрын
Agreed
@charlesrae3793
@charlesrae3793 10 ай бұрын
Same sex attraction is not confined to humans; there are gay animals too, which rather upsets Catholics and other who want to claim that it is not " natural". It's common throughout the animal kingdom.
@samvaknin
@samvaknin 10 ай бұрын
Maybe it is time to watch the video.
@bingusslingus7020
@bingusslingus7020 10 ай бұрын
“Animals do it” is not the slam dunk you think it is
@ZEE.N-m5l
@ZEE.N-m5l 10 ай бұрын
Animals have incest too, does it mean we should follow it? Animals are not examples for humans.
@johnrichards6080
@johnrichards6080 10 ай бұрын
@@bingusslingus7020 It's a slam dunk in relation to 'natural' vs 'unnatural'. It's clearly natural. Morality is a ongoing discussion.
@averyintelligence
@averyintelligence 10 ай бұрын
​@@bingusslingus7020well yh it is if you're calling it unnatural. Are animals not nature?
@miriamevans5200
@miriamevans5200 10 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 10 ай бұрын
YES Homosexuality is natural.
@pastorbri
@pastorbri 14 күн бұрын
@@lastofthemohicans4665 homophobia is whats NOT natural.....time for u to repent of being unatural....!
@ddrse
@ddrse 10 ай бұрын
You can be LGBT and Christian 👨‍❤️‍👨
@apsifox5874
@apsifox5874 10 ай бұрын
Why would you want to be part of a religion calling you sin based off of blind assertions on reality. Do you not see the damage religion has done?
@danieltaylor211
@danieltaylor211 9 ай бұрын
You just don't wanna accept the law of nature the creator has put in place. Two men or women can't produce life. It's confusion!​@@apsifox5874
@Hypothetical-Being
@Hypothetical-Being 9 ай бұрын
@@apsifox5874religion gives people purpose and meaning, being homosexual doesn’t give you anything other than, possibly, STDs
@Hypothetical-Being
@Hypothetical-Being 9 ай бұрын
@@apsifox5874religion gives people purpose and meaning, same can’t be said for being gay
@apsifox5874
@apsifox5874 9 ай бұрын
@@Hypothetical-Being Except religion is a choice and being gay isn't. Religion also harms skepticism and emposes an Authoritarian dictate for life not compatible with freedom with no valid justification. These authoritarian dictates and assertions on reality which by themselves lower the quality of life statistically and culturally bellow what it could be also radicalise and cause from truma to war. Afterall there's a reason why most of the let's crash planes in to skyscrapers community is religious, the ones frowning witches also religious and the ones following superstitions likewise. Edit Stop liking this comment it's wrong religon is a belief and this implies you can choose what to believe which is wrong. Religion isn't a choice it's being wrong with emotional attachment making you live in willful ignorance to maintain being wrong.
@bronzebueno
@bronzebueno 10 ай бұрын
Try explaining to a variety of kids the meaning of the word "gay," without them having had any prior knowledge of the sexual preference existing. The reaction of their faces will speak for itself as to a reason why it is unnatural.
@10Hags5
@10Hags5 7 ай бұрын
How else would you expect kids to react to any sex conversation? They are kids.
@bronzebueno
@bronzebueno 7 ай бұрын
@@10Hags5 It isn't about conversation. The point I'm initiating is that it's an innate belief this practice is wrong.
@10Hags5
@10Hags5 7 ай бұрын
@@bronzebueno children associate with what the world models for them. Most gays tried to live a straight life as kids but of course as they grow older they decide to be themselves.
@yunglost4449
@yunglost4449 5 ай бұрын
Who are you to decide what's right or wrong ?
@jasonmiller7794
@jasonmiller7794 14 күн бұрын
@@bronzebueno falling in love is not wrong... It's not all about body parts............... You clearly sound self righteous... there are many times when people fall in love before the sexual impulse arises. Do you think humans are only breeders. perhaps you think heterosexuals are only motivated by breeding impulses????
@stephenn8366
@stephenn8366 10 ай бұрын
I'd love some gay penguins! ❤️
@pqt112
@pqt112 10 ай бұрын
Do they taste better?
@Joe-mq4zp
@Joe-mq4zp 10 ай бұрын
The Spartans did it
@EmeraldEdge72
@EmeraldEdge72 10 ай бұрын
Yes, I actually didn't believe that the spartans existed until after a few documentaries. There was an account of Xerxes himself witnessing 300 men who were naked and combing each others hair before battle. There was a sexual practice of women who had to earn the right to get pregnant or something where they had to do 10 or so jumps and hit their butt with their heels and then go off into the night with a man. Oh also they had to shave their head. One of the things was that they had sex to further bond each man to the next so that they would fight for each other. Most of what I said is from memory of these 3 documentaries that I found on youtube. One is a 2 parter with a female historian actually going around archeological sites. Regardless do your own research.
@Joe-mq4zp
@Joe-mq4zp 10 ай бұрын
@@Flow_Runner this is sparta
@husqrok
@husqrok 10 ай бұрын
🤌 they prolly would have rather been making cheese
@Joe-mq4zp
@Joe-mq4zp 10 ай бұрын
@@husqrok blessed are the cheese makers.
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