Interpreting Tantra As Subjective Neuroscience | Anand Venkatraman | Kashmir Shaivism |Abhinavagupta

[@MadhurieSingh]

I am in awe with the talk. Its humbling to know that I am a Hindu and born in the country which is genesis of such immense depth in every possible field. I think I am one of lucky people to be born in Bharat and more specifically Banaras. I hope to die in Banaras too as I have started to understand, though minuscule bit that there is a reason for being born and dying in Banaras. This talk has made it stronger to believe a lot about mantras, deities, yoga, practice and consciousness. Thank you for such a wonderful eye opening talk.

[@atul1024]

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[@ArunKumar_237]

My ultimate wish is to experience the feeling of deep yogic stage or meet a guru like swami vivekananda

[@msv5146]

Yeah I am hearing too much of pride and western way if thinking similar to how Shringeri scholars wanted to send someone learn under the chair of so called western derived Indian Science... This is happening only in South.. we go behind the white-collar system...

[@AnandRajappan]

I really appreciate the genuine openness he showed in the talk. Wish he succeeded in his endeavors to better our understanding of sanathan dharma and wish he grows more spiritual and do more service to our Bharatha varsh and the world.

[@muralinair4527]

Nice to see we Indians are rediscovering indian yogic science...🙏

[@khaadu]

Fascinating talk. Shakta and Tantra tradition can be seen in Himachal .In every village we can see dieties and ppl still follow the rituals related to particular dieties.

[@atulgaurav6572]

We hindus need to unite to establish vedic period.....

[@rajeshdamani6606]

Superbly presented and explained with objective angles! I am so very proud that science is unraveling the science within our culture. The history of sound and mind used in conjunction throughout our lives, underlines for me the mystery of sound. More Power to Such Efforts and may the India Based Neuro Focused Hospital come up soonest! 🙂

[@vijnanabandhu2167]

“I am convinced that everything has come down to us from the banks of the Ganges, - astronomy, astrology, metempsychosis, etc... It is very important to note that some 2,500 years ago at the least Pythagoras went from Samos to the Ganges to learn geometry...But he would certainly not have undertaken such a strange journey had the reputation of the Brahmins' science not been long established in Europe” - French philosopher Voltaire

[@pakamastar]

Way to go. India must allocate hundreds, even thousands of cores of rupees for research in this area forthwith and get him back to India right now.

[@ArunKumar_237]

But politicians are busy in appeasing, corrupting, converting religions, nobody wants to give importance to the core/roots of this country

[@aparichit9728]

​@@ArunKumar_237 tru man sad to see this

[@ssi44]

Very impressive. The part which described deity with sound and images with sound gives us the reason for various forms.

[@197sma]

Anand is brilliant. Phenomenal fellow

[@RohitSharma-mi8gt]

What I really liked about this talk apart from his great insights is that he eventually wants to open a research hospital in India. That will be huge and will give a great boost to research in Yogi c Neuroscience in India which India should be a leader in anyway.

[@sridhark5663]

What do you mean by "reputed Western Journals not by people practicing yoga". It is people like Abhinav Gupta and other Rishis and yoga exponents and practitioners who explained the mind and thought processes in the first place. This idea that what ever was discovered by ancient Rishis needs stamp of approval from the West is not very appealing. Whether people like it or not Rishis were scientists and what they wrote was science.

[@ulquiorracifer6049]

I agree, it is our own science it does not need approval from someone else

[@liliesandtulips2000]

Agreed

[@user-lp9vz6lu3t]

irony is jungian philosophy backbone of modern psychology is based on tantra carl gustav jung studied in benaras and proved his theory criticism of freud by validating with indian philosophy of tantra -yoga

[@dumsaint]

​@ulquiorracifer6049 it is a science, not anyone's. But respect is due to those specific individuals who elevated and moved the practice of liberation forward.

[@girija.mn.kottayam8588]

'Inner touch' through mudras and manthras......it's tantra.. Great job you did dear Dr.VenkatRaman....stay blessed always 🙏❤️🙏

[@jay19chandra77]

Excellent presentation of the old Hindu tradition rendered in modern scientific tradition!

[@sulekhachandra7066]

Extremely interesting talk about Tantra. People at large have misunderstood it. Thank you for the remarkable explanation from scientific perspective 👍

[@TheTanurs]

Thank you Sangam talks for introducing us to such brilliant people and knowledge. Helps me understand and appreciate my sadhana more. Much gratitude 🙏 to your team.

[@yushpi]

That self introduction in beginning was appreciable. Anyone before speaking anything on anything must tell where they are coming from. The pretense of a Universalist mooring people display is bad.

[@satyam1529]

Very nice things he came with. So much stuffs are available in our rich Hinduism which was developed by our ancestors. But we lost those things due to evil alien islamic creatures who invaded our country and destroyed them. Now same stuff is coming back to India from west, as they are exploring, reading and doing research on it. And it is giving what today's modern human life requires. It's time for us to go back for those things / stuff to work on it and improve our lifestyles.

[@gopiprasad7866]

Great presentation Anand!! U r a true gem ! Hope you achieve more success in Life..

[@atul1024]

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[@24acadia]

this is a bloody brilliant talk! thank you

[@vi_terminator]

Rajiv Malhotra will be very happy to see this talk !

[@SR-mv2mf]

I think I am a blessed to soul to seek this and find this knowledge. 1000 pranams to the all the custodians of knowledge 🙏

[@kamalakotrike]

very intresting and came to know more need to come in this direction of thinking.thanks to Sangam Talks

[@darshanmujumdar]

“The external worlds and internal worlds are same” is not an axiom. It’s an experience of those who disconnected the sensory inputs to see reality with the underlying consciousness. So, the emphasising the experiential nature is important. You have brought this out later but will be helpful to have this approach distinction made early on. Thanks for your great effort! 🙏🏼

[@raj180380]

Awesome work. Thanks a lot for the talk. It's very encouraging and I think we should be exploring more on these lines to connect the ancient knowledge with modern scientific thinking.

[@rajshekhar1147]

Gentle, humble and thought provoking

[@Seekho_Shorts_Se]

Excellent work . Very informative session

[@utubetruthteller]

It's wrong to say that yoga is devised to strengthen immunity it may be beneficial if you do yoga but it's objective is spiritual other benefits are derivative from yoga not the other way round.

[@liliesandtulips2000]

Exactly.

[@nidhishukla8734]

The topic.. Which has been ignored... U r doing something very important for human race👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@tanimadas2193]

The pictures in the book looked so much like Rorschach personality test cards. Strange!

[@nidhishukla8734]

Every practice.. Is good and give good results.. Against stress and diseases... Kriya yog, sudarshan kriya, sadhguru techniques name the few..... Pranaam to all sant mahanubhav..

[@rahulpathare12345]

He is a real modern Hrishi 👌

[@atul1024]

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[@sulekhachandra7066]

Agreed 👍

[@AmitGupta-id9kc]

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[@jalenduvaidya2541]

Very informative speech..I felt one thing missing.. The senses of our mind.. Aadi Shankracharya expained it very well.

[@anandrajm1]

Very good talk. Felt he has condensed the talk that has the potential to be covered in at least 2 or 3 talks

[@adhipmitra]

Brilliant and fascinating

[@vinodrawat6160]

धन्यवाद सृजन ।

[@anujkhare1234]

Thank you for such an informative talk. Loved it.

[@jalenduvaidya2541]

Kaal for dimension in which we as human living controls the entire system, nature and life and energies. One of the most important component of our existence is human body. Yoga is a system developed to relieve our body out of the control of kaal so that one can get enough time to finish his designated karma and proceed towards Moksha. Woman as a creation is Shakti ( Maya) so this system can't help woman body to attain that level. It can help to fix health problems of woman body, but she can't attain final samadhi.

[@ancientsoul369]

India vapas ayenge or aspathal yehi banayenge 👍

[@prsvermavermaprsverma3638]

It's better more than the movie i am watching and reaching the apex knowledge

[@sancti3707]

I am a fan of your fantastic talk series and keep a lookout for new talks. Seldom disappoints. However, I have a suggestion to make these videos more useful to people. When slides are on screen, would becmore informative to see slides than speakers face! In talk after talk, I face this and wish your production were better. 🙏

[@rickdeckard1075]

yes, ive arrived at these same ideas myself. same with the chakras, they are dual in the sense that the nerve centers like solar plexus or other ganglia have equivalent structures in the brain, and stimulation of the somatic nerves/centers via asanas or internal perception stimulate the brain

[@tanko.spirit7754]

when i started meditating for the first time, i remember having to battle with not faling asleep, so I was between the border of awake and asleep, i think its called the hypnogogic state. now i dont get there anymore, i am always fully awake, which i think is better. anyway, when i was there, i was seeing those geometric shapes flashing non-stop rapidly, going from one form to another. like those shapes you see in the tapestry in the eastern world! or the tiles they use. just google "eastern tiles", things like that. so, i am 100% sure that those "yantras" are just frozen states, images, of the (sub?)conscious mind! great talk btw.! india's contribution with their deep spiritual (psychological) work is the most important, imo... who cares about the damn moon. what does it benefit anyone? nothing. enlightenment on the other hand, oh boy...

[@197sma]

Its time to ask a question to Western Science- WHAT IS YOGIC ABOUT YOUR SCIENCE. We should stop being apologetic about our own Vast knowledge heritage. We should project that as is and become like Abhinav Gupta ourselves and the Western Neuroscientist will like to follow us. If we keep them on higher pedestal, they will always take us for granted.

[@arjunkulkarni4164]

Great presentation.. your 'hunch' is really true.. yoga and science are different names for same thing in different time period.. to understand this it has to be 'inwardly explored' and not objectively..

[@atul1024]

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[@nofavors]

see Guru Siyag Yoga method. It is from lineage of nath sampraday and is based on Kashmiri Shaivism.

[@uklhyd5192]

Super 🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@anah342]

" Rasa " is referred not just as Taste of the sense but as water element in any body or chemical reaction in body

[@ravishingdevil]

Amazing so informative

[@gangaishvar954]

42.30 - I sat upright immediately!

[@johnskuttysabu7915]

Good and detailed study on tantra...

[@chanchalsrivastava2857]

Great session

[@nidhishukla8734]

Yes my guruji paramhans yoganandji and param gurus also described all this and proven that it is science

[@ngyoonoonjohnny7029]

Namaste. I have heard from this video and your explanation of yoga, tantra..etc.. Like many people who have travelled to India..we also try to understand Vedas, etc concerning cycle of birth and death of all living beings. Among the ashrams we visited, the topics on knowledge of tantra, mantra, and yantra, given by Sri Sathya Sai Baba discourse series from 1990 July etc.to English readers are very helpful useful to practice in daily life. How does one apply mantra, tantra, and yantra in real life ? The following daily practice are recommended.; 1) Mantra = The universal energy wave guiding life force into physical inhalation/ exhalation as sound of the breath.. So ham ..21600 times. By listening to the breathing sounds one meditate on one own reality. In this way, the fear and problems of cycle of birth and death can gradually be overcome. Many desire to fear death but they should actually be careful of what birth brings to many animal, humans as karmic problems. Therefore, the next step after listening to breathing is to listen to tantra machine (heart beat) In this tantra heart machine practice it is just a matter of listening to one own heart beat. The conscience of right and wrong action, will be revealed. Every human who listened to his tantra heart conscience will know directly and not willfully do harm to others. Thd 3rd step is the yantra (physical body +nervous system.) If the mantra and tantra life force +conscience are done, the yantra or physical responding to the call of universal of 3 gunas consciousness giving rise conscience, feeling, seat of knowledge, emotions, of all humans, animals, Thus, sentients beings, animals humans are actually guided by mantra, tantra, and yantra to devolve or evolve in cycle of endless birth and death of 8,400,000 earth species of life forms.

[@nidhishukla8734]

Thank you very much.. U hv proven that it is science

[@manjunatha9707]

I think what it means when sadguru says inner engineering. It is strengthening one's mind power or subconscious mind. The mind itself is negative fabric and inner engineering is the technique to make it positive by shambhavi mahamudra, Isha kriya meditation and other yoga ways.

[@mallika96p]

Also linking bioelectric ion channels and neural loops with tantric meditation!

[@advocateakashshukla]

Any body else making notes? 🤔

[@charlesdacosta2446]

To start or with - How you define Tantra is very important. So tell us the limits of the definition you are dealing with. It is very useful to have a discussion. You can say, "I am limiting my view of Tantra to .... , for the sake of this discussion. Other definitions and explanations are not going to be addressed here."

[@ashutoshk932]

Are there any books available on archive.org?

[@ganendraroy867]

Read ananda Marga books by Shri ananda Murthy ji You will have very good clear understanding .

[@mallika96p]

Please do a session on beeja mantras and neurology

[@bhuvardhanrathore2002]

Please suggest how to find more literature ourselves.

[@nidhishukla8734]

Oooo wow good idea of building this type of hospital... India aaiye aur aspataal yhi banayenge... Research Center bhi

[@msv5146]

What he said is so true, science is kinda herd like activity..

[@VS-od8ti]

The 7 chakras in the body each has a color and a beej mantras, have you correlated these neurologically with science?

[@indravadandave1616]

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[@nidhishukla8734]

Energizing exercises by yss/srf

[@chananyauv]

Hope my son comes in contact with you but before that he gets good marks to pursue MBBS coz here to get admission is challenging. He is interested in neuro science & wanted to pursue higher studies on Neruo science & yoga , meditation & pranayama etc.

[@so-much-to-learn]

17:57: No! How Body gives stress signals before Mind? That's not possible in this existence, because what is directing the body to sweat and give certain stress signals and changes is the MIND itself - subconscious mind. So this Iowa game study findings missed this point? To translate these neuro muscular responses into thought and then words is the process of Conscious Mind which does seem to lag behind. But we must interpret about Mind as a whole. The Iowa game study is also treating body and mind separate.

[@srinivas8220]

Good point. But he is using word mind simply as cognitive biological process of the body, not the prAnic mind which exists beyond the immediate physical body. Our yogic body-mind field would likely be chitta, and the universal would be chit

[@deepakrbhardwaj1779]

Very nice talk.

[@ravimadhukari]

Nice insights , I would not be harshly critical on some points because the author had clearly indicated that his speech or lecture is more oriented to what they taught him in the western schools , one example -As per our indian scriptures SOOKSHMA Sharira is NOT inside the Gross body , there is no overlapping of sthula ,sookshma , karana sarira but having said that anything that manifests in the sthulA , starts from karana sarira , then enters the sookshma and then only the sthoola , whatever he maps the organs and components of the brain is purely sthulA Sharira , I disagree on his explanation ,but again in spite of his limitation of having toe in line with what he learned ( Note he is a practising doctor and would be in trouble if he goes deep into Chakras and the upanishadic Patanjli based definitions of sookshma srira ) , he has tried his best to walk the razors edge ,good job

[@paulbee2447]

in tantra-Shiva=consciousness, Shakti=awareness. More quieter your mind, the more able it is in detecting subtle sensations.

[@TheGuruNetOn]

Before he even gets deeper into things First he should read Rajiv Malhotra's book "Being Different" on Western Universalism and Digestion of cultures. Carl Jung and his predecessors did the first round of digestion on Kundalini Yoga now we have Indian and Indian origin students carrying on that work of strip mining ancient sciences. Hopefully they realise their own legacy and respect and carry it forward.

[@abhinavkumar-lt9nb]

Guys any idea where can I get the dyanananboothi book in Bangalore? Please do reply if anyone knows

[@nirmalahs9492]

Giri traders is located in Malleswaram circle. Can try there

[@prabhu1359]

I know, SHANKAR BHARADWAJ KHANDAVALLI'S FATHER, he is in Hyderabad

[@rahuldewansarayu7526]

prabhuraj thota Plese help us connect with Shankar ji via his father. You may give a reference of this lecture and a reference to him/his work.

[@prabhu1359]

@@rahuldewansarayu7526 definitely, I'll get his number, and let you know

[@prabhu1359]

My number is 7702226727

[@prabhu1359]

I came to know that he has already mailed you

[@SangamTalks]

@@prabhu1359 We don't see any email from SHANKAR BHARADWAJ KHANDAVALLI ji

[@ArunKumar_237]

Very interesting 👌

[@aankitasaini]

In your words, you are talking about as if you were looking into the Hinduism from other planet with a mere lense. This video is indeed good for the re-researxh of the topic which is already there from the scratch. Why do you have so much time to waste? Ask your US counterpart if it's okay to put a research paper by Indian villagers on their (US) cultural activities? They will not accept it, why you are accepting it from them to misinterpret out ancient text? If you have not studied Vedas, don't talk about it. It's that simple, or many uneducated people can talk about stupid modern science too.

[@srk9252]

Is sahaja yoga deep and helpful ?

[@sabitadas8686]

Mr Anand Venkatraman, I give you one example, human body has a five sense and every five sense is related with cosmic energy floating. Without cosmic energy the five sense of human body will not work properly. When soul will synchronization with cosmic energy, that's time human consciousness will open the door of infinite consciousness. It's means every part of universe like small particle to big particle. Even nook and corner of the world will be know.

[@ganga6591]

I may have some insights that may be useful

[@Raj-do7gs]

May be due to NTS Yogis taste SHIVA VIRYA when they chant OM🤔

[@sancti3707]

Could it that people who have better brain function are able to sustain yogaasanaas more diligently? I mean, how do you distinguish between cause and effect in these studies?

[@srinivas8220]

The yogic answer would be that the cause is embedded in the effect and Vice versa. There is nothing which comes before/later because when it happens it occurs in the Now beyond linear time.

[@sancti3707]

Yoga is more than yogaasana. What speaker means by yoga in this talk is actually yogaasanas.

[@yarlagaddasatyanarayana4072]

Thank you

[@rschoudhary108]

Wow ❤️

[@coherent5605]

Speaking toooo fast !! Great topic !!

[@kymjohnthorburn6044]

A valuable contribution. I am working on, writing/studies about the bridge between the science of the soul and science, particularly, with a focus on the praxis of a hypothesis, a fundamental outline of statements and assumptions of theory which is intended so as to begin mapping a closer tie between the spiritual and the scientific. It is a lengthy work, of which I have written the preface and provided a forward, and am currently compiling the process of a scientific hypothesis from which a theory, to bridge the gap, is intended. If you are interested, contact me through my email, as I have signed on to the channel broadcast as 'subscribed'.

[@greggikane9066]

Superb

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[@KameshwarChoppella]

23.41 and I'm here with the effects of long Covid19 ie parosmia FML

[@iconoklastik]

underwhelmed...wasted so much time parroting inner outer ..west/east cliche....instead of talking about real stuff

[@vasukinagabhushan]

Commercial gurus turned Hindu practices to cultish businesses. Sanatana Dharma has many Darshanas, paths and Rishis.

[@tkthomas3489]

292 Mantra, Tantra, Yantra Tara of MAN, TAN and Yan. Tara is ra (ര) of TA, the other. A class of TA. The science is essentially classification. We are able to classify and use the information of classes (tarah, Hindi) for our benefit. We are able to modify properties of class and transform it into another class. Does TARA in the above words mean the effort to modify a member of a class and make it transit the boundaries of the group. So could we surmise… Mantra is an invocation demanding tara, the transformation of "man", the mind. Chanting might urge one to undergo transformation by taking solemn DECISION on the way one would deal with the neighbour. And…. Tantra is an effort to transform the "tan", the body. Does it mean just physical exercise to alter the appearance of the body. And .. Yantra is an effort to transform something without the involvement of man and tan,Yan? Yantra is the Indian word machine which helps avoid active involvement of physical and mental efforts. So-called spirituality jargons deviate the meaning as some combination of geometric figure which would bring in luck. Yantra is careful automation which is infact lucky in offloading mundane routine work. Transforms mode of getting work done (yan ! "e+a+n" !). Foolishly we stick to geometric patterns.. Wisely some of us (donkey which takes narrow gate and path) geometry as a loner ( eg. Pythagoras the lonely struggled with pattern of right angled triangles, patterns of chemical bonding understood and lonely bell lab scientists altered the geometry for creating n type and p type material for miniaturisation of electronics). Worshipping geometric pattern mindlessly with the hope that it would bring in luck is foolishness. See the English "trans-" prefix of transport, transfer, transform, transit etc. mean exactly the same. Movement across tara! Mantra is an invocation to move from chittha vrutthi (MA, selfish thought pattern) through chittha vrutthi nirodha (yama) .. if mantra triggers decision, decision to be born again , chida Nanda roopah ( to become a chid mentally) Sivoham (a child of civility ).... Tantra is transformation happening to tan, the body, physique, form, pattern, consequent upon decision to transform mind following the invocation of mantra. Yantra is the automation taking leverage of geometric pattern, forces, environment which takes care of mundane mindless tasks of everyday life. Mantra and Tantra culminates in scientific temper for creating Yantra.

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[@GazalSoni]

I am a Hindu. I am lucky.

[@GazalSoni]

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[@KannadaRama]

The speaker exhibits maturity and understanding way beyond his biological age, but doesn’t that mean he knows building a Mandir is way ‘progressive’ than building a hospital? Also, Beeja mantras are not supposed to be casually blurted out like he does- it will cause harm.

[@reenakjiya6971]

Last line👍

[@srinivas8220]

Agreed Bija mantras should not be uttered out of context. I am not convinced that it’s dangerous, but They may stop working for him because they are not being energized in a “sacred” space, so subtly they lose their power for him. Incidentally, Om creates the sacred space - but that itself needs to be uttered in “sacred” ground.

[@VivekVerma-zh2wk]

Sadhana for 6 months !!! Hehe

[@onesynthesis6676]

Why are you trying to reduce the knowledge that has already been discovered? You are western educated and the mind will be within the frame of what you have studied. By comparing and analysing, you will simply try to convince people that there could be something deep in Tantra, and that too looking from the prism of your educated mind. The person who practice Tantra should be talking as to what exactly the knowledge is all about and not mere brain scanning slides. This is very ill-prepared for a topic like this. Don't you wonder why it was called "Vigyan Bhairav Tantra" in the first place? In American terminology, you are doing "mumbo-Jumbo" repeating the same thing which is already crystal clear to suit the reduced western knowledge which is simply objective as its foundation.

[@dharma2025]

Simply put, not enough to get to the experiential level where the real joy lies!!

[@srinivas8220]

He is trying to build a tantric neuroscience clinical practice which means using the inner-to-outer world of tantra to guide the doctors exploration from the outside in. He is not trying to give you a raw tantric experience of Ananda. He is trying to simulate a tantric experience of rasa with external tools.

[@onesynthesis6676]

@@srinivas8220 Please stop using words which you yourself don't understand. "Tantric neuroscience" :) It not even worth my response. Understand some basics, Objective and Subjective are two different things, worlds apart.