Santa Monica Studios Does Care About God Of War's History

So I played through that new God of War Ragnarok DLC, Valhalla. Did it a little bit later than I would have liked, but I was busy. To give my brief thoughts on that, I think it was fantastic. I would have never expected a rogue-lite God of War Style game to work, but it absolutely did. One thing that's definitely worth noting is how it essentially puts a cap on the entire story arc of the modern God of War games. And for me is the final definitive proof that's Santa Monica does actually care about classic God of war. Tune in to find out.
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[@adhamwashere5320]

One thing Kaptain Kuba mentioned that I thought was interesting was how Helios isn't just there for fan service, he's there because Kratos may have always, at least, subconsciously remembered him everytime he sees Mimir's severed head, so Helios replacing him makes perfect sense

[@KolmManison]

Considering all the dialogue with Helios.. yeah, that makes sense and is very.. sobering. Poor Helios, wasnt the nicest olympian but sure didnt deserve his fate.

[@mithvibes4727]

@@KolmManison it's funny watching people play the dlc too because they hear helios going on about how unfair his death was and teasing kratos and they're like "ughh shut up helios you needed to die" and then helios tells the truth of the situation and they're like 🫤 oh

[@Manjawline]

Ironic how a free DLC expansion is higher quality and has more content than most paid DLC in modern AAA games

[@ChrisBear1989]

Well it is free DLC and it probably shouldn't be compared to expansions either but yes I partly agree.

[@Jasontodd_edits]

No new animations also you paid 70+$ for this game

[@greedgod5827]

​@@ChrisBear1989well let's compare what their peers are doing. Although a much lazier attempt at creating a roguelike with re used animations probably no new voice lines being tlou2 "remastered"

[@tim.noonan]

@@greedgod5827Bro the game hasn’t even dropped how tf do you know there aren’t new voice lines? You TLOU2 haters are gonna give yourselves ulcers 😂

[@Reverend_Mohg]

Why would you compare a DLC from an already developed game (since 2018 btw) to a game fully developed from zero?

[@metal100k]

'You have always been more than what others saw.' A great line especially considering that its him talking to his past self. The journey this man has taken has been incredible.

[@pharmcat8484]

So I want to regale you with a story. Years ago I was out with my friends at a steakhouse. Our waitress was in her 50s. She overheard us talking about video games and decided to tell us how much she loved playing God of War after a hard night with difficult patrons. For our safety we made sure to tip her extra well.

[@The_Unpunished]

What Santa Monica has proven with Valhalla once again is that they care about all God of War, and have shown that Kratos was always a deep character, better than anyone could've shown.

[@soraxstacy1477]

If only Jak and Daxter got the same treatment

[@Nix_Abyss]

Yet you will still have morons pretending he wasn’t and only having googly eyes for these new games and the tlou styled gow glorification. 😂 While trashing the originals. Ya know because modern journalism has warped peoples minds to believe the “originals weren’t that good actually” narratives being taken as fact.

[@Warmaster2001]

And its seems like they will continue cooking. And make another masterpiece)

[@kennydarmawan13]

I think what makes Valhalla work is that the game acknowledges the Greek era, its faults, and whatnot, but also showcases the growth of Kratos as a person. Rather than hours of "Yup, we're proud of the Greek era." It's an overview of said era and a closing as well. The game concludes the era well, making it clear that Kratos's actions at the end of the Greek era ultimately paid off. Also, glad Tyr is given more spotlight. I enjoy how he's written. Humble yet wise.

[@HandlesAreStupid11]

Couldn’t have said it any better. Besides just fan service, there isn’t much more we could ask for.

[@Sen.say.]

The Greek formula was wearing thin ..is cap 😂😂😂😂

[@YetiCoolBrother]

​​@@Sen.say. Oh yeah man people were falling over themselves for more Greek-era GoW games back then, that's why God Of War: Ascension sold so well.. Spoilers: It didn't, it sold so poorly it nearly killed the franchise.

[@variantgamer9885]

@@Sen.say.Dude no one played Ascension

[@Jay-bl8ne]

@@variantgamer9885 Yeah because it was a mediocre game, not because of the Greek Formula. Spent way too much time on multiplayer and stupid non GOW-esque QTEs than actually refining the game.

[@HunterForHire422]

Some of the lines kratos has at the end of the dlc almost feel like the writers directly calling out how people wrote off the old games and it felt so good to realize they were playing the long game with kratos's journey and it paid off amazingly

[@shadowthehedgehog181]

I think i know the scene you're referring to, but I saw it differently. I believed it was calling out the people who only saw Kratos as a godkiller and wanted him to stay that way. It's annoying to see a character to go through so much emotional growth, only for the old fans to want him to massively regress into who was because of muh nostalgia. Kratos has always been a deep, emotional character from the beginning, but he was heavily defined by his actions in GOW III by the general public. It was hard for them to see him as any anything else besides that. That's probably why Ascension's story didn't hit with a lot of people: it was the first attempt at an emotional narrative. But he's always been more than a godkiller; more than what others saw

[@torquetheprisoner]

the creator got very salty about the new god of war game

[@HunterForHire422]

@shadowthehedgehog181 I can totally see that, too now that you've pointed it out.

[@Kalibre97]

​@@torquetheprisonerthat dude is an out of touch clown and if he kept control of the games he would've run the franchise into the ground

[@torquetheprisoner]

@@Kalibre97 i was like the fuck is he talking about i would of supported everything that the new people were doing with kratos like making him a warrior at peace with him self but fights when his back is against the wall and trys to teach his son life lessons along the way

[@saltyshrimppasta]

I don’t think we’re ever going to see an end to the “old versus new” God of War debate, where either side finds any way to dismiss the other, despite both versions working best together. The creators of new GoW show a great deal of respect for the older titles, but people are going to see whatever they want to with either version.

[@gogitoDBZ963]

Kinda sucks that David Jaffe, the OG creator of GOW, isn't a fan of the new direction the series is taking. Yet, the other Devs not only respect GOW's roots, but also know that in order for Kratos to fully complete his arc, they HAD to reference key moments from the Greek Games for the DLC to work. I love Valhalla. I wasn't a big fan of Roguelites before, but this DLC did the concept very well. Yes, it's still frustrating to die and fight bosses all over again, but it teaches you to go beyond your limits and really tests your skill. I hope to see another entry in the GOW franchise. SMS has made something special, and they treat it with the love and respect that it deserves.

[@snarf2400]

Ah to hell with that guy, his career after making games is just making a nuisance of himself and talking absolute rubbish online. Real “old man yells at cloud” stuff. I’m grateful for giving us GOW, but also grateful he has nothing to do with the series anymore.

[@willkuzenka]

Ngl if you look at a lot of games he has made he hates characters progressing and changing. Twisted Metal Black for example any ending where a character wants revenge they get it but anytime a character wants anything else they get fucked over

[@snarf2400]

@@godzillazfriction Indeed. Even in his younger days on the first GOW he was a bit clueless tho, he’s lucky he had such a patient team and people like Cory to reel him in. You should look up an old interview of him talking about a concept ending for the first GOW where Kratos becomes the Grim Reaper, it’s absolutely atrocious, literally sounds like a bad fanfiction 😂 he legit has no leg to stand on when talking about what a story should be

[@snarf2400]

@@godzillazfriction I only gave a vague summery of what he said, there’s also stuff about Kratos becoming one of one of the three wise men I believe go have a look, it’s worth a laugh 😂

[@snarf2400]

@@godzillazfriction Yeah pretty much, absolutely terrible 🤣

[@SpottedHares]

If anything Saints Monica shows that they can do so thing not only do most game developers can do must most writers can not do. They accepted the character they wrote and created for the Greek saga and moved forward. More often writers either just keep blazing forward or just pretend they didn’t write what they did. Kratos was an unforgivable monster that did everything to satisfy him self, and that fact they were willing to call that out is incredible.

[@lightmohamed5700]

I knew it from the beginning they have not forgotten about the OG Saga

[@michaelhunt6920]

Valhalla is the most fun I've had with Ragnarok since my first playthrough. I played on the max difficulty. Took me so long to figure that last boss out but it was worth it. Loved the random nature of it. I need to play more roguelike/lites

[@CoolSaver]

What's the difference between rogueLIKE and rogueLITE?

[@michaelhunt6920]

@@CoolSaver God of War is more of a Roguelite. It has elements of roguelikes but isn't fully focused on it. Binding of Issac would be more of a roguelike. Where the game is longer and is hyperfocused on the idea that if ypu die it's permanent. You would have to fully restart unlike Valhalla

[@troy4108]

The person who made that article “God of war finally grown up “ should get fired tf you mean god of war always had depth I hate these people who don’t play the game and knows nothing about it, gives these bogus ass claims about the game

[@guitaripod]

Chris delivers that last monologue well. He cares.

[@KnowItJoe]

Really, my only problem with modern God of War is the rushed story from Ragnarök. Other than that, I absolutely love the direction they took with the series.

[@chrischl8003]

Agreed, my Main problem with Ragnarök is the whole thing about that stupid mask that comes out of nowhere.

[@LiterallyMe459]

as much as i love ragnarok the story just felt rushed. they should have delayed it more even if it upset some people

[@haro6025]

My problem is playing with atreus and making the plot around him I play gow for kratos nothing more

[@Omega-jg4oq]

They should have introduced more Norse gods into the game and Thor should have get more screen time and stay longer instead of getting killed by Odin, what a big misopportunity

[@SoulOfTheLostWarriorMooCat]

I would not have mind it if they did another triology with this one.

[@darkvizardking69]

This entire dlc will always be the therapy that Kratos needed, and i will die on that hill.

[@discountcrusader9773]

If they truly cared about the old games they would give us cow suit Kratos.

[@Adrianhernandez-ex8cj]

Santa monica is one of the few developers that truly understand what players want and although i thought ragnarok was OKAY the gameplay was great and valhalla is incredible I will follow ALL of their future projects they deserve all of our support

[@TwistedSarcasm31675]

It's a perfect closure to the entire series wrapped in one kick ass dlc. Hell, they could have made a legit game out of it, guessing bout an 8 to 12 hour game each with their own segments...like one goes to each realm kinda like how they did but make it like the normal quests in the game. Glad you did a video on this n was actually waiting for it. You get the series perfectly as I did. Well done 👍

[@IAmTheEagleHTM]

Since the game's release I wanted Mjölnir and was upset we didn't get it, but getting the Blade of Olympus instead was totally worth it

[@Axel_Kasai]

It would've looked weird seeing kratos use it. 😂

[@Omega-jg4oq]

To be honest, I feel like it’s not appropriate for Kratos to wield Thor’s hammer.. I know he always takes his enemies weapons, but this time I feel like Thor’s hammer should always and only be with Thor and it’s belongs to him and also his daughter, after knowing the story of Thor.. I feel like this is none of Kratos business, I know it’s would have been cool but still Kratos already had his Axe that he could throw around and make it come back to him

[@BruceWayne-fj9bm]

Having Mjolnir would ruin the point of the ax.

[@christiancinnabars1402]

I much prefer the Blade of Olympus because Mjolnir would have just been the Leviathan Axe, but with shorter range and lightning effects instead of frost effects.

[@DDFF-qn8ic]

nope Dual wielding the hammer and the axe it's like wielding a yin and yang the Devs lazy excuse just to not make and spend money on it like bro the GOW collection edition has the MJOLNIr and the GAME itself don't have that how Freaking stupid

[@anasiss1992]

A couple things... First I believe they were trying to tackle the stories chronologically. So of course they would start form the hydra fight in GoW1. Second, while you might not have enjoyed or cared for the Mimir/Sigurn section, I feel like it was more to show that Valhalla doesn't just target warriors. It challenges everyone, including the smartest man alive, to come to terms with their lives. Their mistakes, truimps ,and even their own failures so that they can move on without regets. It also showed the comraderie between Kratos and Mimir and how they trusted eachother to be so open and how far they both had come. That in itself also shows their respect for the previous games and is a testiment to how far Kratos as a character has come. I'm not trying to say you have to like these bits, just explaining more why I think they were included and like them.

[@OMSOFFICIALS]

This DLC really did make me secure in what this team was doing with Kratos, Ive always had this underlying chip on my shoulder that the Dev were trying to rid of the old God of War, honestly this was mostly due to how the gaming journalist set the narrative that GOW has finally "GROWN UP". This was an awesome video as always

[@fwwaller]

didnt even mention how they finally brought back the classic music from the greek games, hearing that classic kratos theme as he confronted his younger self is something that should've been done in the newer games already.

[@Ghost_Ship1779]

I just started this dlc today and it's very fun, pretty much just what I wanted. It's nice to be able to just jump in and enjoy the combat and practice different fighting styles without it being broken up by narrative sequences and puzzles. This makes me want to go back and finish the story of the main game now 😊

[@Warrior-Of-Virtue]

"The death I gave you was unjust... even though you _were_ trying to kill me."

[@fulcrum6760]

To be fair, Helios was trying to defend himself and Olympus. That and he knows if he dies, the sun will go out and disasters will strike.

[@thelegandgamer2830]

You mean it's the opposite way Kratos was the one who started the war against Olympus

[@kathrynvincent1563]

Reminds me of what Kratos said to Sindri after he offered to upgrade the Leviathan Axe. “Do not undo his (Brok’s) work, only improve upon it.”

[@Ninja-The-Red-Shinobi]

they care so much and it shows and i legit can not wait for the next game because I know what they have Kratos go thru will be amazing

[@zhagurettomuun5878]

Valhalla was therapy with occupational therapist, Tyr. The work, the conversations lol

[@heejincider4905]

Can you please talk about FF16? it's the only game to make me feel the cinematic spectacle and excitement that only GOW3 and Asura's Wrath can provide. would be interested to hear your thoughts on the game.

[@matti.8465]

I was gonna say something about the Frontiers comment, and I still don't 100% agree, but yeah the writing might have leaned a bit too hard in trying to show fans that they care about continuity now with all the references. Which after the previous era of games I'd argue it was necessary, but if the next mainline game is as heavy in the callbacks then yeah it's a problem

[@burntpotato7116]

The dlc provided amazing closure for the end of kratos's journey

[@zackcrouch6930]

The draupnir spear with the cycling elemental effects 😫

[@2xRainb0w]

This DLC simultaneously took shots at new fans/journos who downplay old GOW calling Kratos “one-note” and old fans that want old Kratos “angry murder man” back.

[@2xRainb0w]

@@JackoX901 very cool

[@tylerleach8796]

@@JackoX901and some people like story-driven games, what’s your point?

[@redcenturion88]

I want murder man back

[@DDFF-qn8ic]

@@JackoX901 yeah modern games can have that both and has a lot of option too Devs and the games industry is falling a part cuz of greed let's play safe and the minimal for maximum profit

[@Action-Hero]

In the trailer for Valhalla the devs of it say that they are fans of the fans and by god they were not kidding.

[@SIR_K_Daddy]

I was so surprised by all the old kratos in the DLC. I, like you are a huge GOW fan, from the beginning and I thought this was the prefect way to cap it all off. Not a huge fan of ascension either, but working in the oath worked well. Where do you think we're going next with the 3 different weapons Tyr used in combat? Great video

[@MorganTheTimeLord]

What gave people the impression they didn’t care about GOW’s history…

[@Comicbroe405]

Game journalists & I think smtg Cory Barlog once said.

[@supergirlvideoclips894]

Sales is what matters. The new games are selling a lot more than the OG god of war. Only God of War 3 came close. A lot of casuals and women gamers are buying the Norse God of War games which was never the case for the classic Greek games.

[@everybodyknowslego]

Is that a good thing though?

[@costelinha1867]

@@everybodyknowslego Yes, yes it is.

[@Dezatron-]

If we had a young kratos boss fight. I would've loved to see all of his weapons and abilities in action.

[@EthanTheDinoNerd]

I wonder if people out the US is confusing about the sacrifice room because in other regions that soldier was replaced with an undead one.

[@EthanTheDinoNerd]

Also young Kratos boss should be a reward.

[@pharmcat8484]

Remember that part of God of War you liked? Well, have some more.

[@sombrashadow0013]

I will say with the story items, I really wish we got one for the Last Spartan. I would've loved to hear Kratos reflect on him killing the last living Spartan and what that did him

[@eggyfam7544]

He's alive. Remember, GOW2 had Kratos time traveling.

[@karimsaiyan_dz7876]

6:43 just to clarify why he kept the one he hates the most near him because he couldn't get rid of them, no matter what he tried they always came back to him on their own it was explained and shown in one of the comics

[@GenericProtagonist118]

Funny how Santa Monica was thought to be one of those "being woke is my personality" type corporate entities but turned out to care about Kratos' rich history but *the literal creator* of God of War didn't want Kratos to grow past his original "power fantasy" self. _We live in confusing times...._

[@fulcrum6760]

The original creator hasn’t matured since the 2000’s, Drawn To Death is the biggest example.

[@costelinha1867]

@@fulcrum6760 And this is why sometimes the original creator's opinion should not be taken as gospel.

[@fulcrum6760]

@@costelinha1867 Charlie said it best: It was turbo cringe. Like it wasn’t even funny too. Everytime you get a kill, a meme would show up.

[@deathryder420]

This is just something I think about but Ultimately everything in kratos's life in Greece and the monster he became and were the biggest part of blame can be traced back to can be summarized by a god of war 2 line that in retrospect is absolutely true that being when speaking to the giant statue of the fates kratos breaks it while declaring "I am what the gods have made me" and while yes choices made by him were clear even those choices come back to manipulation and cruelty from the gods and major point of why they bear the blame themselves just as much if not more so than kratos can be brought up that the prophecy of the marked warrior was ultimately a self fulfilling prophecy that wouldn't have happened if they didn't try to prevent it similarly to cronos eating his children to prevent his own downfall started his downfall and it should be known that a major way prophecy in itself works commonly requires the involved party to know about for it to happen

[@memphisacosta2145]

Hot take. The dlc had a better story than the actual game.

[@TheShark94700]

True.

[@Warmaster2001]

No. It just adds to the game.

[@jotheunissen9274]

Santa Monica indeed proved they love their work and the God of War franchise with the great story, but they already proved it before I even started it They made such a game for FREE. The Valhalla DLC is about the size of the PSP games and they gave it away for FREE. 20 years ago that wouldn't have been impressive because DLC barely existed and was always free but nowadays money hungry companies sell you DLC that is just different paints for weapons, different skins, an unlockable character,... or even if they make a proper DLC game they charge you quite a lot for what it is worth. Ragnarok already was a full game and to then make a huge extra part for free is amazing

[@lucasdiazjr5679]

Besides being a great add on I think this may have also been a response to jaffe,especially with how old kratos talks to younger kratos

[@babayaga9805]

Tyr is not hard boss but the fact that you have to start over from the shore makes it exhausting

[@redcenturion88]

Shouldn't be though. You collect permanent stat upgrades that make each run feel a bit better. I'm on a mission to max stats. The bosses are just extra fun along the way.

[@draketheduelist]

6:03 "So from a storytelling perspective, taking the story in this direction wasn't the smart choice. It was the only choice. Unless they wanted to stop the series altogether." And what would be so wrong with that? Why did GoW 2018 need to exist at all? Why do stories need to continue interminably? Why do these nostalgic capitalizations need to keep happening? Especially when everything short of the odd miracle eats turds? You would think Santa Monica wouldn't have to be told to quit while you're ahead. You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself as the villain. Even if GoW 2018 doesn't suck, even if Ragnarok doesn't suck, it's inevitable. The longer they keep at it, the longer they keep pulling the arm of the slot machine, the closer they get to the crap singularity. How long before Kratos gets capped in the head by Harley Quinn? (Metaphorically speaking. Oh please, for the love of God and all that is wholesome in the cosmos, let that moment not _literally_ happen someday...) Will you still defend it as a change in direction? At some point, you will reach the limit of what you can put up with. The only way out is for the story to end. No reboots. No sequels. No revivals or callbacks. The world is starved for something new, merely _based_ on the old. There may be nothing new under the sun, but those old ideas can still be rearranged in unique ways, perhaps becoming something compelling in its own right. This used to be called "creativity" before the dark times. To me, God of Boy will always represent the greed and rot of modernity from whence it was born. I think the bitterest pill to swallow is that God of War became this boring exercise in awkward combat controls and introspective navel gazing, while Dante's Inferno never finished and remains wallowing in edgy dated cringe to this day. At least God of War was tonally accurate to its bombastic and crude source material.

[@Superhermit]

I feel like the fan service hit so hard because they held back all this time

[@CoolSaver]

Young Kratos looks a bit cursed because his body model and face is from old Kratos. It's just a bonus skin, and it's what i wanted since the GoW (2018), damn. Wish there was also a bonus Blades look, you can kinda see how they are different on the back of young Kratos.

[@thesunkendream]

Perfect DLC

[@reaperinsomniac]

I thought remastered og Kratos was cursed too at first glance, but that is only because he keeps older Kratos' bulk and height. Other than that, it's a pretty good model in my eyes.

[@reaperinsomniac]

@godzillazfriction Those videos were fun to watch. I remember watching most of the GoW 3 extras. To me, it was like seeing two art styles blend. It looks a bit off at first, but then you start to appreciate the final product.

[@reaperinsomniac]

@@godzillazfriction Dope

[@CrazyGamingYT56]

Love your content keep up the great work

[@kazekamiha]

I think Valhalla started with the Captain's Key is because it's the first cruel act of Kratos a player would have seen.

[@costelinha1867]

"A lot of people who criticized it, had no context of what they were criticizing and only based it on second hand opinions" Basically me basing my opinion on GOW 2018 on that Under the Mayo video before it came on the ps plus and I got to play it for myself, and loved it. Not nearly as much as something like God of War 2, but you know, it's as they say, it's impossible to compete with literal perfection. As for The Last of Us 2, I haven't even played the first one, so i couldn't care less about what people think about the second game.

[@GrandRegentSScratch]

For a second I thought this was video from the Mayo lol.

[@LionofDawn]

I don't know if i would say that the entire studio cares. I think it's mostly due to the 2 directors of Valhalla. Cory Barlog never wanted the original theme or anything other than the Blades and the brief apperance of Athena to be the only type of callbacks to the original God Of War. It made GOW 2018 feel almost like a reboot rather than a soft reboot.

[@ahmedanubis]

"More circle to circle" is the best way to describe it😂

[@akev2794]

Part of the problem with the original series is that Kratos was a deep character... in Chains of Olympus, Ghost of Sparta, and the first one. God of War 2 and 3 had Kratos mostly filled with rage and revenge, and those were the two most popular games of the Greek saga I'm pretty sure. Obviously, the other games especially give context for Kratos that justify what Kratos had become (and to some extent already was) by God of War 2 and 3, but combine the fact that 2 and 3 were the most played with recency bias, the fact that God of War 3 had other story problems such as sort-of retconning 2 with the whole box evils thing that was kind of silly, plus some arguably outdated stuff like sex minigames, and it's easy to see how someone could get a wrong impression of the character.

[@PBart7]

babe, TBP uploaded!!

[@whynot1548]

Its true. Most gaming discussions on social media is horseshit. To be honest most of social media reviews on really anything(cinema, comics, politics, religion, and cupcakes) is horseshit. With only a few gems. This channel being one of those few gems 😎

[@andreimaxwell4455]

Not enough to give back Kratos the ability to jump in combat

[@toasttoast8687]

i will just never forgive this company for making one of the best, most interesting and most fun hack n slash & platformers into what it is today, and the new stuff is all we will ever get now

[@tylerleach8796]

You mean the same hack n slash that was going stale? Hence why Ascension did so poorly in comparison?

[@owensilva9224]

​@@tylerleach8796ragnarok combat is trash

[@tylerleach8796]

@@owensilva9224wrong. And even if it was, that doesn’t negate my point. The series NEEDED a change in gameplay because, as Ascension showed, everyone was getting tired of it.

[@owensilva9224]

@tylerleach8796 ragnarok combat is trash so too is the game

[@tylerleach8796]

@@owensilva9224 you gonna try to explain your points or keep saying it hoping it will be true

[@CrimsonCascade]

5:50 Omg I am so glad that someone said this, thank you. Yes, this is one of the main problems with trying to force everything to remain the same in this series. There's always gonna be a point where the same reused formula is going to become old and stale, and at that point the charm of GOW's violent, god-slaying murder fancy is going to lose its appeal.

[@frankkennedy6388]

5:07 I love these games for the power fantasy, and to change to a defensive Dark Souls combat just goes against the franchise's identity. 8:12 But the DLC was free. Why did you watch your friend play it? 13:41 yeah, that model distracted me from Kratos' monologue. I would have preferred T.C. Carson to have a talk with Christopher Judge. This wrapping up of Kratos' story felt rushed. A simple talk and relaxing sit on the throne just didn't feel right. I didn't know what to expect from this, but I thought the end would hit harder (Especially with how many times you fight Tyr).

[@Jago-pl7op]

Totally love it since it's just great if you want to focus on combat only, but the PS4 version has a fatal flaw. For some reason, Kratos always falls of the world randomly when he enters doors. You can return to shore, but it will still happen in every run. Essentially soft locking you from finishing a run.

[@skeetsofrage9517]

Played The Last of Us Part 2 after i had read all the leaks, it was still complete shit due to its bad writing. Boo hoo bro.

[@jordansimeonov1501]

Me looking for Zesty’s comment

[@GooseTheObsidianPaladin]

Bro you really got to get off this last of us 2 cope. Great video though

[@TBP]

Who's coping? I'm just making a joke.

[@GooseTheObsidianPaladin]

@@TBP I know brother, just busting your chops

[@TBP]

Fair enough, I can never be too sure when it comes to the topic of The Last Of Us 2

[@ronsonaquino8532]

Listening to the Valkyries and mimir's love story was the only thing I disliked about this dlc overall I really enjoyed it. I got goosebumps when I heard the sirens' singing before you fight them lol

[@carmineunate8999]

disliking that is crazyyy

[@jakeryan2805]

What about Athena's force ghost, or the fact his daughter is supposedly in Greek heaven? Is that addressed at all? They really dropped the ball on Kratos never even telling Atreus he had a half sister.

[@csaw200]

Great Analysis. Great Video. Great Series.

[@fixerrr98]

This game has combat system totally different from rest of god of war

[@toanuva6178]

Now if only we got modern remasters of the original trilogy on modern consoles + PC. Heck, if developed right, I'd gladly take a Switch Port

[@kelvinjohnson1566]

They shouldve put the GOW2 Kratos Armor (When he fought the collosus of rhodes) as a reward for beating it...The Goat motif was always better than the wolf motif ares had

[@Warmaster2001]

Well he already have that in several colour pallettes plus you can unlock young Kratos.

[@God-k5b]

Put bookmarks in your videos bro. Most people skim through these long videos. Especially the ones that you have a list of games.

[@tylerleach8796]

It’s only 18 minutes long, dude…

[@God-k5b]

@@tylerleach8796 you must live in KZbin all day bruh. For most people, lists like this are a fleeting curiosity. It’s not interesting enough to spend 18 minutes on lol. I just wanna see what games he has on the list and do a quick glance so I can go back to watching something else. Most good KZbinrs with lists post do bookmarks.

[@tylerleach8796]

@@God-k5b if 18 minutes is too long for you, then you have a poor attention span.

[@God-k5b]

@@tylerleach8796 I just watched an 2 hour lecture on KZbin on the dating method used to calculate events in the Bronze Age. Just the boring ass method used with the most dreary voice ever. I’m not even into archeology or history like that but I liked the topic enough to sit through it. So trust me bruh, attention span is not an issue with me. This video is just not worth it enough to spend 18 minutes on when I can watch boring ass shit like that.

[@Raphiel1991]

I agree with you tbp 100%

[@OXhuls]

It’s funny how a dlc was made and the game finally felt like a game.

[@bruhmoment1965]

Lol, lmao.

[@DoomUvb]

If they care so much about the old God of war. Why not keep the old game play? You can have Serious storytelling. While having a really good gameplay look at DMC and Souls Franchise as a whole

[@tylerleach8796]

Because, as the poor sales of Ascension showed, people were getting tired of the old gameplay style?

[@DoomUvb]

@tylerleach8796 yes I Understand that but do what DMC 5 did Evolved the gameplay and add new systems and improve upon it Instead of throwing it away and making the game look like every single over the shoulders game.

[@costelinha1867]

"Why not keep the old gameplay" Because that old gameplay wouldn't fit the atmosphere they wanted to create? and because the old formula was already growing stale. God of War isn't DMC or Dark Souls, what worked for them may not necessarely work for GOW, in fact, IT WOULDN'T work for the Norse GOW games, it would create a complete tonal dissonance, it would be a fucking mess.

[@costelinha1867]

@@tylerleach8796 Not to mention that the old formula just doesn't fit the atmosphere of the new games.

[@Omnipulsar]

that may be so but all of this will be null and void if they actually change kratos name to john, the moment that happens will start the downfall of god of war

[@genesismultiverse4896]

This is why if I work for a gaming company I'll go to Santa monica

[@DarkOverlord96]

Do they also reference the many women he engaged in mini games with and what he did with Poseidon's princess?

[@cloakeddemon3207]

Hell ye

[@itsserjuuu]

❤

[@sidrezig4449]

The creator of the original gow hating the new Kratos is wired

[@TaurusOxford]

Jaffe is just grasping for attention. He did the same shit with Metroid Dread, which resulted in a room being named after him as a meme joke.

[@tylerleach8796]

@@JackoX901you seem to think Kratos in the first game didn’t have depth…even though the first game is arguably where Greek Kratos has the most depth to his character and the most times we’ve seen Kratos’s vulnerability.

[@fredericoc6234]

😂

[@MayanFrighter100000]

I like the gameplay and storytelling but always prefer Greek Mythology and the themes over Norse mythology. I view Norse mythology as too safe and overused, I love strong sexual themes in my entertainment because I view it as being rebellious against modern Western sensibility, and Greek mythology has things that Norse mythology lacks which are the human element like seeing a character showing joy or love, trauma, and tragedy of the character who loses everything or suffering becoming a victim, the exportation of the unknown (which could be interpreted as traveling to America or Africa) and the determination of returning home to the ones you love, connection with other Mythology like Egyptian and Persian, and the final three, Robots and if we are including the first sci-fi story in history, Aliens and Space travel (if you want to include Lucian of Samosata's A True Story as a part of Greco Roman Mythology). I love how improved the storytelling became in 2018 compared to God of War 2 and 3, but I still stick with the Greek Era because of games like Ascension, Chain of Olympus, the original God of War Game, and Ghost of Sparta stories. It gave me almost everything I wanted and I wish they stayed in the Greek mythological universe and explored the story of Kratos trying to heal and repair the destruction he brought to the Greek world while also fighting back against other gods seeking revenge.

[@dantealgre5631]

I completely disagree the fact this game exists is clear indication of how the developers fucked up so bad personaly i doubt the developers ever played the original series that why they mentioned gow ascension because they thought it was the best of the classic not only that they believed that the worst thing kratos ever did was sacrificing the Athenian soldier i think the only reason this game exists it's because the huge backlash after ragnarock which was the peak of kratos character assassination And to be honest with you im no longer interested in gow any more i played the 2018 one and i didn't like it specially the combat mechanic and in 2022 i believe that was the last nail in the coffin PS: i have six Greek games to spend my time with i don't need marvel movie games to keep me busy

[@TBP]

Dude, For the Love of god, punctuate your sentences.

[@dantealgre5631]

@@TBP sorry . But English is not my first language. But generally I'm not satisfied with the game direction since 2018 .

[@TBP]

In that case I apologize and I respectfully disagree

[@psywarveteran]

If they cared about the history they wouldn't have destroyed the best hack & slash franchise there is, just to turn it into yet another one of Sony's "walkie-talkie" games.

[@TBP]

Nice recycled talking point, you know it's still a hack and slash, right?

[@psywarveteran]

@@TBP What's a recycled talking point?

[@tylerleach8796]

⁠@@psywarveteranbecause it’s copied word-for-word from another comment on the video

[@tylerleach8796]

The best huh? Is that why Ascension sold so poorly compared to the others?

[@psywarveteran]

@@tylerleach8796 Complete nonsense, are you guys waving away valid criticism with baseless slander now? Show me this comment I copied.

[@morepower6800]

The OG kratos is unmatched, the OG games are superior and TC Carson is the one and only true voice of kratos

[@Axel_Kasai]

No one's stopping you from playing the old games 🙃

[@morepower6800]

@Axel_Kasai the superior OG games fam so make sure you get it right next time

[@psywarveteran]

Exactly, they just can't swallow the pill.

[@morepower6800]

@@psywarveteran damn right

[@tylerleach8796]

@@psywarveteranyeah, you people can’t swallow the red pill and see the truth.

[@fulcrum6760]

David Jaffe hasn’t matured since the 2000’s, Drawn To Death is the biggest example. Dude is a more successful Synthetic Man.

[@DS-po6zd]

Yeah, they care the same way I care about my first car. I used it, I remember it, and I try to forget. Because I have another car now. Deeper and prettier, and stuff. They care so much that you don't even fight a single Greek God in this DLC. But you fight Modi. Tells you everything you need to know.

[@tylerleach8796]

“Never mind the Greek enemies, Greek locations, Helios, and the constant callbacks, we don’t fight any Greek Gods so that obviously means no respect” That’s you.

[@DS-po6zd]

@@tylerleach8796respect is when you put a ciclops skin in the ogre mode, makes sense.

[@tylerleach8796]

@@DS-po6zd respect is when you pay respect to the old games, which this DLC did no matter how delusional you are.

[@DS-po6zd]

@@tylerleach8796They talk and stuff. Therefore they respect. Basically you.

[@tylerleach8796]

@@DS-po6zd sorry that your goal post is forever shifting. The rest of us are reasonable people.

[@cozminr]

yall like emo kratos? you lame

[@BardioTheGoat]

Bro the original kratos literally tried to kill himself multiple times. Hush 😂😂

[@cozminr]

@@GhostConz anime is awesome. everything you americans do sucks. check yourself lame loser

[@owensilva9224]

Young kratos is the best kratos

[@cozminr]

@@owensilva9224 the new kratos is bullied by his kid lol

[@tylerleach8796]

@@cozminr…are you an idiot?

[@douchebaggio]

Hello

[@ninjakiwi2476]

Hello

[@GrandRegentSScratch]

Hello

[@________________6325]

3:44 hey now, you know damn well we don’t say that name…

[@rpeatlivecom]

Krotes was always mad

[@rpeatlivecom]

What past? He is the god of war, what is wrong with you

[@costelinha1867]

Past, as in the events of the games that happened before the norse games? Seriously, do you have 0 text/video interpretation skills? do we need to draw a picture for you to understand.

[@Comicbroe405]

Kratos telling his younger self "you were always more than what others saw" had me man. It's Santa Monica just telling that yeah young Kratos was a character with depth too & was more than a rage machine. Also the Tyr fights were amazing, very hectic in the higher difficulties tho.

[@Warmaster2001]

And showned that he is also a traveller and have some weapons he bringed to his homeland from other civilizations (like when he using Aztec, Egyptian and Japanese weapons which is almost exciting when he showing it)