Sapphire On A Seiko! Inconcievable! Seiko Solar 38mm Prosepc Diver SNE583

[@RelativeTime]

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[@bignz721]

The older I get; the more I like a good quartz & with solar, it’s perfect. My Safarnie is not only a perfect beater, but it’s going to the Apocalypse with me. I find Seiko diver aesthetics to be the best, so the SolarKX has been on my list for a while

[@RelativeTime]

The summer helped reaffirm my idea that everyone needs one good quartz. Was really busy and it was so hot. I just kept grabbing my good quartz watches. Either my chronomaster, Oceanus, or Garmin. They're just as well made as any Auto, it was nice not having to wind or take a few minutes to set it.

[@bignz721]

@@RelativeTime I inherited my brother's Casio Oceanus WaveCeptor. Quartz/solar/radio time-synced. Sadly its too bulky for a daily wearer, but Its what first got me into watches.

[@alaththar819]

Exactly...!!!

[@teamtrust4394]

You are 100 % right 👍🏻

[@gnarl12]

Yep, a solar quartz SKC would be amazing

[@ak983625]

I never been an automatic snob, quartz movements always the best !

[@black79montecarlo123]

Love mine! Wrapped around my wrist with a beads of rice Straphabit bracelet. Looks amazing, built amazing, and keeps amazing time.

[@nono-jj4yv]

more quartz content please....

[@bignz721]

Marc at LIW sells upgraded bracelets for these solars, specifically. BRAC-84 and -85

[@RelativeTime]

Cool! I was betting someone was going to if they hadn't already. Either Marc or Uncle strap or strap code.

[@cameronbracken6223]

I've done this upgrade, now everything else in the collection has to wait impatiently in line for wrist time, hah It's just really good

[@teamhonn]

I agree this one snuck through the system. Really like solar watches as I get older.

[@flyingrocket3879]

I gotta get that love quartz on those mornings when I just need something fast.😊 Thanks Seiko

[@libor4128]

I own the black version and can attest that it is a phenomenal watch, in terms of both looks and performance, and with no alignment issues on my piece. I bought it slightly used on a rubber strap for €150 and it has been one of my most worn watches in the last 15 months. I can recommend the watch without reservation.

[@TheUkester69]

Amazingly good timing. At the moment, I am thinking about getting this watch on sale, so I put the model into the KZbin search bar, and here we go, a two-week old video by a dude I trust.

[@JusttheWatch]

I was just looking at the new 41mm version that's about to come out, almost picked one up.

It's already on the market, months ago

[@royaldahlia]

Orient too🧐

[@gnarl12]

I think it's great. Now to make quartz Willard....😊

[@patrickhartmann1540]

I’ve owned the blue for a couple years now. It’s my go to summer knock about. Light, thin, grab and go, classic looks. Dumped the bracelet though. Looks great on blue rubber strap. Also note that the bezel has interesting circular grooving, as well as etched numbers reminiscent of ceramic.

[@khronokraze]

I like it. I used to own one. I forget the reference number but it's the one with the radiant dark gray dial with like a ghosted bezel. I think the watch also wears a tad larger than the 38 mm may suggest. Something about the broadness of the lugs to me seems to make it wear just a tiny bit larger visually. And yeah, it's weird how Seiko will give us sapphire crystal on the lower entry level lines and then skip up to the very high end ones that cost a lot more. Rarely anything in the middle and more commonly bought perhaps?.

[@Blaze016]

I have this watch with the classic black dial and an aftermarket Jubilee bracelet from Island Watch, it's great. Also, I think another reason this has sapphire, is that they saved some money by having a quartz movement. Combined with what you said about someone at Seiko knowing that customers like sapphire, they were like, "sure, why not add it".

[@dunderhay9169]

That looks a good choice for a smaller dive watch. I bought that Citizen for my wife and she absolutely loves it, it's the best ladies dive watch for less than £1000 👍

[@Rob954ever]

I have the grey bezel/ black dial version. I LOVE this watch! I swapped out the bracelet for one made for this watch by Marc at Long Island Watch. Definitely gave it a more premium look. I have a 7.25 inch wrist and it looks great on me. Don't sleep on the one. It's a great watch, people. Nice vid, as usual, Shane! 😎👍🏼

[@Anirossa]

Had it for 2 years, it's great.

[@OFD]

Very cool. I'm a fan of the size and Solar movement. Thank you for sharing this one!!

[@adk7962]

Very cool. Interesting that I’m looking for a solar quartz that I saw this video today and a video of an Orient Stretto yesterday. Thank you for bringing this to our attention Sir!

[@absar8304]

I see you are wearing the Bulova jetstar, i bought that watch after watching your review of it and its the one watch i will never let go and i wore it on my wedding day so thank uou for all the reviews you make.

[@RelativeTime]

Yeah, I thought it was a good watch to wear when reviewing this one. Still love it. I don't think I'll ever get rid of it either. Congrats on getting married!

[@FiremanFrach]

This watch reminds me of my Citizen Promaster eco drive bn0150-28e and newest purchase BN 0191-55L. The only Seiko I own is the a totally different look (Arnie SJN025). All great watches IMO.

[@HVG67]

Not bad. If I have to go the quartz way nowadays, I only go Solar or 10yr battery! Also, 38mm is usually not what I want, but in this case I think it's fine as it has a big presence...

[@dparis2172]

More solar quartz watches, please! I really like my 44mm Citizen Promaster (wears smaller). I hope Seiko puts more effort into solar watches in the near future.

[@RelativeTime]

Well they have a ton, it's just the watch enthusiast community tends to ignore them. I really need to get a review on my citizen chronomaster done. It's expensive, but an amazing watch. Titanium Solar High Accuracy Quartz with perpetual calendar, and almost Grand Seiko-like finishing.

[@dparis2172]

@@RelativeTime Unfortunately, 95% of Seiko’s solar watches have either a timing bezel, multiple pushers, multiple sub-dials or generally unrefined design. Often it’s a melange of all of those elements. The Chronomaster, on the other hand, is a masterpiece of refined design and technology. I look at it as sort of a solar powered SARB 033/35. Citizen is leading the way in solar powered watches. They have plenty of the obnoxious looking ones, like Seiko, but they also offer the Chronomaster (The Citizen) and the more affordable Tsuyosa and Forza models. If only they would release a slightly smaller, standard bracelet version of the latter two…

[@dparis2172]

@@RelativeTime PS - I’d really like to see your review of the Chronomaster. 👍

[@RelativeTime]

@@dparis2172 funny you should mention a sarb033. Mine isn't a plain black dial, but one that has that special paper, some texture to it but It's still a sublte black. A sarb033 is one of the first things I thought of when I started wearing it, and after about a week I started getting why everyone that has one still loves them.

[@dparis2172]

@@RelativeTime Washi paper I think they call it. I love those subtle, refined design choices. Fun fact about the SARB 033: Its dial is not actually black, but a very, very dark brown. It is noticeable in direct sunlight. I’m not sure how they achieve that effect, but I suspect that the top surface is black and the sub-surface is very dark brown maybe with a bit of copper which is exposed by the light sunburst brushing of the dial. Just a guess.

[@Aiman-w1f]

Sne597, this watch is fairly new. Hope you can review this unit.

[@larrydalton2205]

If this was a regular battery quartz as a diver, that would be an issue changing battery opening the seal on the case. But solar is perfect for this and a real dive rated watch.

[@eugenethomas4647]

Dimensions on this are 👌

[@markbyrum4743]

Swap out the clasp with a Seiko Marine Master adjustable clasp. If you haven't used one and try one, you will really like them. I have them on several watches (even non-Seiko's - gasp!!). Great vid. Keep at it!

[@RelativeTime]

Thanks! I got one of those adjustable clasps a while ago. Tried it on my Marine Master reduced. I wanted to like it, but it was so much thicker than the clasp it came with. Just felt a bit chunkier. Although I did like the design of the adjustable part. Pretty interesting compared to most of the other ones out there. Maybe I'll give it another try sometime.

[@zachpayne3572]

Shane should check out a Baltany watch. Preferable not the dirty dozen esque models, as those are just genericly good. Maybe the field chrono or old school funky tilted dress watches

[@RelativeTime]

I need to check them out, as well as Lorier. I think those are the two big micros I have yet to really look at.

[@LeeePowers]

New school SKX despite being a Solar Quartz.

[@expertreviews1112]

After years of watch collecting I can say one thing, smaller is the way to go

[@Bojo1984]

Great video as always 👍

[@RelativeTime]

Thanks again!

[@jaysterling26]

Just started watching but in my location (UK) they discontinued some models ( the gorgeous grey-why?! ) & only have the green, blue & black ( non Padi).

[@lukewalker1051]

I prefer quartz and solar watches. Way less hassle and more accurate than mechanical watches. My nicest quartz diver is the Seiko Tuna 300 with polished shroud and stainless bezel. Will never sell it.

[@gilbertoflores7397]

Plenty of seikos around the 200 dollar range can get sapphire crystals, I've seen them a lot on their dressier quartz watches.

[@dustinr16]

Both Long Island Watch and Uncle Straps make bracelets for this 38.5mm solar diver.

[@KMV007]

I want to add a Seiko to my collection as I like their retro inspired designs, but there aren’t many options with a quartz movement. I gave up on their mechanical ones, my last 3 models I bought from them, Alpinist, Willard and 62MAS kept terrible time, more than 30 sec/day. I don’t understand why they don’t make their more classic models in solar quartz.

[@bignz721]

Not solar, but I know there is a quartz that is "2Hz" ticker (4 ticks/second). A $20 goof watch I bought had one. I really don't know why they don't use more of these .. soothes the "not-a-mechanical" aethstetics & you don't have to scratch that "not hitting each minute" quartz OCD itch. Win-Win.

[@RelativeTime]

Those are the VH series from Seiko. They are bigger movements, and they do suck battery quicker. Which is why they aren't used more often. I don't think they have a date either, but not 100% sure. However, when you find them they are great. The funny thing is when I first showed one in a review years ago, it had a lot of negative comments. I think it was a cheap casio, but a lot of people were like "THAT'S NOT SWEEPING". Funny how people's opinions change with time.

[@Bob_Smith19]

VH movement batteries last two years at most. It’s usually around 12-18 months. I have a bunch if them and besides the second hand they don’t offer anything better. Changing batteries on them isn’t as easy as other movements.

[@skagerstrom]

Isn't the Promaster with the bright blue strap sold as a ladys watch? That would explain the smaller size.

[@RelativeTime]

Yeah it is, but a lot of guys are buying it too. I have another 36mm watch I really like, but the promaster just didn't feel right to me.

[@scrhunter3901]

Every seiko abouve the 5 sports line should be saphire. But the hardlex is very good i got no problems with my hardlex seikos. Simpley the presage 60‘s style has a very domed one so they got few scratches but the hardlex is so clear you will not notive this in the first looks.

[@josephgriffin1065]

I don’t hate hardlex, I don’t even mind quarts movements, but 495.00 is crazy, even with sapphire, big price to pay for original design, I have Seiko and G-Shock, and a few Ali-express watches, the Chinese are going to shake things up in the watch world.

[@TheGrenadier97]

I just wished they offered the same with non-skeleton hands as well.

[@TennesseeMike]

I wonder if Sapphire is better option for charging the solar.

[@rauliflemington7045]

No, it makes no difference.

[@stavrique]

Nice watch but is better than a Kamasu ??? a video could help us to decide :)...tks in advance

[@arielargo]

Smaller dimensions for smaller wrist or maybe for lighter options. It's grab and go. The Kamasu is a great watch, but totally different, I don't think there's a good comparison. Both can live in the same collection. 👍

[@RelativeTime]

Like arie said, they are very different watches, and in some ways better for different situations. I'd say both are about the same level of quality, with Orient having better lume. Otherwise, if you want an awesome entry-level auto, go Kamasu. If you want a smaller diver or don't want an automatic, go for this one.

[@royaldahlia]

Orient solar diver coming🧐

[@RelativeTime]

Be interesting. I have reviewed the Chrono one, but be cool just to see a solar normal diver from them.

[@thenexthobby]

They can afford sapphire when using $5 movements instead of $50 4R movements, that's why. I have nothing against their quartz here. The case designs and font choices on bezels always look better on the regular autos. My grab-and-go models are G-Shocks, my Lunar Pilot, my Timex Q batman GMT, the $50 "Escapement Time" that mimics an old King Seiko, that sort of thing.

[@RelativeTime]

I'm sure it costs Seiko less to make, but on Esslinger all the Solar Seiko movements are at least $100 to buy.

[@Bob_Smith19]

Seiko puts sapphire on a lot of their quartz offerings, even at the low end. We just don’t get most of them in the US. The low end Astrons are the best value at the moment. Sapphire, solar, titanium and radio sync for around $700. But like any watch there are some caveats w/ them. No half links or microadjust are the two biggest. No lume is another but I personally don’t care about lume.

[@RelativeTime]

I still need to get an Astron to review. I think they just came out with some new models.

[@Bob_Smith19]

@@RelativeTimeThere’s a hard line between low and high end. High end is GPS sync while the low end is radio sync. And you pay accordingly for the GPS models. I have had no issues w/ radio sync anywhere in the US. You may have to place it in a window facing Colorado if you’re far away but that’s it.

[@An_inquisitive_thinker]

Yes. One of the watch industry strongest selling points is how deep you can dive with their products as if we live in Atlantis and not desk diving with them. Go figure.

[@RelativeTime]

Yeah, it's always been that way. Now more WR is a good thing, as long as it doesn't sacrifice the design, comfort, or cost. But you don't really need 200m. I think people have wised up a bit, but I still remember all the comments when I first started the channel. All the guys insisting on needing a 200m ISO rated diver when they take a shower.

[@An_inquisitive_thinker]

@@RelativeTime Indeed. Yet to see a drop of water inside my WR50 Hamilton Khaki Field King after showering with it. 🤔

[@RelativeTime]

@@An_inquisitive_thinker yeah. For me, I think 100m is what most brands should shoot for anything but a diver or a dress watch.

[@An_inquisitive_thinker]

@@RelativeTime Maybe I should start wearing my Citizen EcoZilla WR300 to shower just to make sure it withstands immense pressure of my 🚿. 🤔

[@Bob_Smith19]

Here I am swimming w/ a F-91W. The strap wears out before anything else.

[@Sicarius888]

I guess Ali great value deals changed my watch perspective too much to care about big brands. Hard to justify for me spending that much on quartz with folded end links and aluminium when for the same money I can get 3 titanium PT5000 Thorns.

[@RelativeTime]

For some reason this summer was the summer of quartz for me. Developed more of an appreciation for a good quartz watch. Was really busy and was really hot so just kept grabbing one. Either my chronomaster, Oceanus, or Garmin. Helped reaffirm My idea that everyone needs at least one good quartz.

[@Sicarius888]

@@RelativeTime I don't dislike quartz fully, just 1 second ticks and often not hitting all markers. My perfect watch would even be a quartz. Bulova Jet Star sweeping with solar charging and in Pelagos case. Of course for a price that fit quartz, max 250EUR. But ticks or price similar to auto and mechanical always wins for me.

[@Bob_Smith19]

Good luck w/ longevity in those PT5000s. Everyone I have feels like you’re grinding gravel when winding them. I do not trust them to last and avoid them entirely now.

[@Sicarius888]

@@Bob_Smith19 Overblown stories about their poor reliability, probably from early series. I have 5 and all are fine. I use one even now as daily for almost 4 months with no problems. I don't hand wind autos anyway and with no date and 1 spd average don't need to adjust it frequently. Ali is inexpensive enough I will get bored and buy something else long before it breaks.

[@SoPacifx64]

They sssooo know and won’t push models like these to hard. Imagine applying “zaratsu” polishing on this and maybe tossing in a GMT hand for $1k. I mean the rest of their Prospex and half of their Grand Seiko line will collapse.

[@RelativeTime]

Now that you mention it, it's funny that they don't have any solar Grand seikos. They have their nine of quartz ones which are supposedly great, But there's still battery and have to be changed every 3 years. I wonder why they've never developed it. Meanwhile, Citizens Chronomasters are also a high accuracy movement with solar.

[@RollingShutter]

Why does it have a Sapphire Cristal ? Because it is a 500€ watch. That Thing better have Sapphire.

[@JudasIscariot81]

Inconceivable* Wallace Shawn says shame on you.

[@RelativeTime]

I always hear his voice when I see that word.

[@JudasIscariot81]

@@RelativeTime same lol

[@jaelee2263]

The bracelet is always sucks Seiko never fix this issues

[@TXLogic]

Why do you sit down at the beginning of your videos? I guess it’s your trademark? Whatever. Good content.

[@RelativeTime]

Sort of... Kind of a long story. I did it once a while ago Just to do something different in the beginning. And surprisingly, a lot of people commented that they liked it. Which never happens. So I decided to do it more often. After that it kind of became my trademark. To the point that f I don't do it now, I have people commenting about it. saying it didn't feel right without it. So now I guess I'm just stuck doing it in every video. 😂

[@vktravellog1242]

Sapphire? Is it a fake? 😂😂😂😂

[@RelativeTime]

😂

[@Florin_AEM]

495? This is yet another joke from Seiko... For this money there are literally several dozens of superior alternatives. What are Seiko smoking? Who in their right mind would buy this for 495, when Citizen and Orient have multiple alternatives for half the price??

[@RelativeTime]

Well that's MSRP. Unless it's a brand new release, you will be able to find it for much less. In this case $350 is the street price. That's the case with any name brand watch.

[@dustinr16]

They can be found for $300 on the grey market or EBay all day long…

[@musik4u343]

Seiko is like apple...they give their cult worshippers crummy watches and make tiny improvements every few years and act like it's ground breaking. And the seiko fan boys eat it up...meanwhile..there are literally 100$ watches who make better watches then this one. With sapphire, which shouldn't even be a highlight feature...it should be a given. Seiko is ans will always be overrated.

[@RelativeTime]

The well-made Aliwatches have changed the affordable game so to speak in the last 3 or 4 years. The one thing Seiko still has going for it is their designs. They are original, and they are usually pretty good. Whereas with Ali watches, when they do attempt something original half the time it's a mess. San Martin's new brand JIANGHUN is a good example of that.

[@musik4u343]

@@RelativeTime i see my reply got deleted lol

[@RelativeTime]

@@musik4u343 I didn't see your reply, try again. If something happened it was an automated process through KZbin. As a rule, I don't mess with anyone's comments unless they're spamming the channel, or being particularly nasty to other viewers.

[@josephgriffin1065]

Addiesdive ad2117, nh35, sapphire, bracelet on par with Seiko, 66 dollars delivered, a Seiko turtle is 450+

[@rauliflemington7045]

Cheap artificial sapphire crystal; not a deal maker or breaker.

[@Spewf]

Hmm buy this or buy 2 chinese watches with seiko movements at better quality better movement better price. Seiko is a rip off. Seiko dosent even make the best seiko...

[@RelativeTime]

Thats why the Alibrands have changed the game so to speak. The one thing Seiko still has going for it is their designs. That they are original and typically nail it. Whereas with the Alibrands, when they attempt something original half the time it's a mess. The JIANGHUN Wardrum San Martin put out is a good example of that.

[@Bob_Smith19]

No Seiko movements means no AE watches. They’re all rip offs of established designs. They have their place but aren’t anywhere close to being a competitor to Seiko. Remember they sell to the mass market, not enthusiasts.

[@rauliflemington7045]

@@Bob_Smith19 The watch depicted here is also a 'rip off' of an established design. The Chinese watchmakers key market thus far actually has been predominantly enthusiasts and they also make many original designs as well.