Intro to VAN EYCK: Der Fluyten Lust-Hof! | Team Recorder

[@terrenceseidel3054]

The Music sound like the Jazz for that time period. Groovy!!! So much Fun with the Recorder!!!

[@hansvanbrandwijk2803]

Sarah, you have made this world a better world.

[@flutechannel]

Lust-Hof! Some of my fav's! Great work talking and teaching everyone Sarah! Keep that series going!

[@Melissa-pb6wv]

Remember this as your template for the perfect video, perfect mix of old and new information, and perfect length, perfect mix of fact and opinion, perfect mix of speaking and playing, and perfect delivery. Wow! Wish I could write a perfect review for you.😀

[@lovaekstrom4232]

I played doen daphne in church today here in Sweden. I was all alone on stage and I tried to really bring feeling and drama to the piece and still keep the beauty. It was really fun.

[@andrewcranmer9653]

Yes, I've played Daphne in Church (only the first 3 modos!) and it really works, despite not exactly being sacred music.

[@hendrikvanoordt]

What a nice video, useful information, attratively and lightly and professionally presented, thank you.

[@DomesticatedGoth]

In Glasgow they tried to play classical music over the museum steps to drive away the teenage Goths (and alternative kids), but it totally backfired because they really underestimated how much your average Goth thrives on atmosphere and aesthetic. I wonder if the same happened back then, and Van Eyck more just got the teenagers to sit quietly and listen, than go away XD

[@Team_Recorder]

Haha! That’ll teach them to be so patronizing!

[@ankavoskuilen1725]

When they sat down and listened the goal was also accomplished I guess.

[@Loreman72]

Love that!

[@zainnicholas4458]

instablaster.

[@tiko5555]

I love wat zalmen op den avond Doen. Its one of my all time favorite

[@ankavoskuilen1725]

Oh, that is so funny: the song is called: what will we do in the evening? But how you spelled it, it becomes: What salmons do in the evening. Zalmen or zal men, makes quite a difference in Dutch.🤗

[@hambone6793]

I just started recorder about a month ago now I need these books in my life.

[@hauke3644]

The Fluyten Lust-Hof II is the one book that I would take with me, if I had to go on a long voyage and needed to reduce luggage. Actually that's what I did several years ago. I had a plastic recorder in f by Yamaha which I could literally wash - the perfect instrument for the desert. But one of my companions complained about the "sad" music - I still don't understand that appreciation, maybe my interpretation was somehow wrong.

[@bblovesyou1]

It’s my favourite, I go back to it again and again.

[@Alan2Bordeaux]

Thanks for introducing me to these pieces. A whole body of music, freely downloadable, pretty, rewarding and challenging! And the Dan Laurin recording does that ASMR thing for me with the tonguing!

[@Cecilia-bp2dn]

Thanks Sarah, awesome introduction to Jacob van Eyck. Beautiful music to explore further and such an interesting mini-bio too. I learned so much in under 15 minutes!

[@homhomtube]

Einfach wunderbar: so lebendig, überzeugend, mehr davon: CHAPEAU !! Besser kann ein Video nicht sein.

[@jitingzhang9623]

oh Sarah, we, the Recorder fans in China, soooooo need your vedios. We hope we can get teachers like you in China. Thank you

[@RAH1861]

I really like your idea of using an alto recorder to play this music (using C fingering). As you mentioned, since it is solo music, it doesn't matter what you use. It might mess with my head a little using C fingering on an alto, but I like to live dangerously...

[@ankavoskuilen1725]

I guess every recorder player does that at some point in time. I definitively have done it. 😊

[@yjhuoh]

glad i read this comment. i was so certain i was hearing Gs and i thought i was going NUTS

[@emmareynaud7276]

Amarilli mia bella is one of my favourite !!!Thank you Sarah for jour videos 💚💜💙💛❤

[@ankavoskuilen1725]

About tempo: I am not a professional so I play the tempo I can. I don't start at the tempo of the most complicated variation I can play, because the first ones would become very boring. I slow down gradually. My favorite one is definitively Doen Daphne, but I like a lot of others as well, for instance Malle Sijmen. I play Van Eyck mostly in summer because it brings me a lot of summer happiness. (And why is there no recorder emoticon?)

[@mlapergola]

THANK YOU Sarah for this video - I found answers to basically all questions I had!! 100% spot on. As a note to those interested in listening to how many of those pieces play, I recommend Soshichi Uchii's youtube channel who posted many videos of his interpretations of van Eyck's pieces across all 3 volumes Der Fluyten Lust-Hof by Amadeus.

[@AilsaJ]

Thanks to your video I got volume 1 for Christmas - I already love this!!

[@Team_Recorder]

Ahh great!

[@petebard]

Amazing. A zillion years ago I studied recorder and bought the three volumes of van Eyck that were sold at the time. Two were lost about fifty years ago. I just bought a Boehm flute and ordered the complete set (and a plastic tenor, I have several recorder in both wood and plastic) my practice pieces for the Boehm flute (as opposed to my Irish flute) include Daphne and some Irish session tunes. I’m getting tired of playing everything in D and G though. I watched your videos with Michala Petri and got a little hooked on your channel but basically I play fiddle and both the flute and recorder are a trip down memory lane for me. I’m an eighty-two year old who always feels like a beginner. Bye for now.

[@brightravenmusicdance]

What a wonderful and informative video! While Bert and I visited Amsterdam, my birthplace, back in 2001, an aunt was very excited to bring us to an enormous sheet music store in Amsterdam. We indeed had a great time filling about half a suitcase full of previously owned sheet music, almost all for recorder. Among our finds were the three volumes of Der Fluyten Lust-hof from XYZ (these edited by Gerritt Vellekoop).

[@elektra121]

This was very enlightening! Thank you. I'd very much like to see more such stuff! :)

[@ilveroleolix]

Couldn't agree more on your favourite video, Sarah! Each time I watch this one, I keep hoping it will last longer! 😁 Great job!!!

[@lipamanka]

I didn't even know you made a video about this, I've been working on a research project for the past few years about this book wow

[@joopspeth6483]

Great inspiring video!!! I recently started playing again after decades and I missed it so much! Now I'm playing 'Onder de linde groene'. Thank you!

[@HollandHiking]

Thank you for this video. I am trying to play it for some time now and it is so lovely and challenging to play them all. I find that it takes some time to get the hang on it, but gradually I discovered there are a fair number of similarities in the what Van Eyk is actually doing. So it becomes more easy ... Your top level tip is make it sound as improvisations. I really love that.

[@tehenga38nz]

Your playing is beautiful! And I enjoy your humour.

[@tristanrush5526]

Very interesting! I am currently going through the facsimile of the original, and I love it. I love reading old forms of notation, and it is very fun. I am also a composer, so I can spot the mistakes, rationalise the mistakes, and/or correct them. I very much enjoy your videos, I find them fun, interesting, and helpful! I am a strings teacher, and I've been playing the Alto and Tenor recorders for about a year.

[@chrisramos224]

Great video! Please don't stop making informative videos like this one. Thanks :)

[@Jeffipookins]

Can't wait to get my hands on these pieces. Yeah! thank you

[@mattrn58]

Thanks for the tip about Bob Laurin. It took me a full day to download it onto my phone!

[@mariasmits9563]

Thank you very much for this beautiful video.

[@alexgarcia4003]

Muy intresante Sara.Pues sí,hablo el idioma de Felipe II.Siempre he tenido problemas con mantener el "tempo"en las variaciones.Siguiendo los pasos de mi profesor de solfeo decidí no continuar con el tempo original y funcionó.Ahora gracias a tus conocimientos me lo confirmas.Gracias por tu generosidad ofreciendo estos vídeos.

[@abigaillilac1370]

I'm a beginner recorder player, fresh out of the method books, and I just bought all 3 Van Eyck volumes to pour through. Even if I can't play most of the variations at first, I just like the tunes and the history and I can take it slow. :)

[@1Noor3]

Nice video Sarah! Turns out I didn't know alot about Van Eyck. I played Daphne on my granddad's funeral on tenor. Perfect mix between beatifull sadness and a bit of joy

[@FrereGillesMarie]

Thank you very much. Excellent video.

[@donnahughes-barton9737]

Thank you so much, I've just discovered your channel! This was so informative and inspiring. I've just purchased the Schott edition from my local music shop, and have my little Moeck maple soprano ready. I can't wait to try!

[@Wheatoninak]

I’m so glad you mention the “mistakes” - I’ve felt terrible changing the notes in some of the pieces, but they don’t make musical sense to my ear. Now to do some research to see if I’m truly justified in doing so.

[@Ratwoman5000]

I just got this !! 🤩 I have a 20 min slot at my local Fringe Festival to fill with Recorderness... 🎶 How I will choose though I do NOT know! Because am trying to vary the genre and style of the music in that 20 min a bit with some contemporary and folk things so will likely have to pick two from here maybe... Argh!!! I will let you know what I choose 😌 Thanks so much for alllll the tips!

[@dahlrussell]

This is wonderful! I am working on some cello transcriptions of these and your insights on approach, practice, and what elements to bring out are very helpful. Thank you!

[@dross24MA]

One of my faves, the one I go back to time after time, is Psalm 118. The base and first two variations are almost instinctive because they are so logical. As for the remaining variations, well, I will be forever working on the rest...grin!

[@grieske]

I know it's hardly relevant to the substance, but your pronunciation of the various dutch words is really good! To be honest, I didn't expect that.

[@Ph.Martin]

She lives in Amsterdam

[@ellenjanssens4171]

Great video! I've been tackling a bit of Van Eyck in class. They're really fun to play!

[@windsinger1766]

Awesome, I have been writing/improvising diminutions (I first started doing that in "Caravan" with Phrygian Dominant mode licks) and didn't know there was a name for that. Excellent introduction to and History on Van Eyck, thank you Sarah! :-)

[@lauramingo2027]

The world NEEDED this !

[@wendyvandusen422]

I'm not quite ready for the "grown-up" editions of Lust-Hof yet, but I found that SheetMusicPlus has a Beginners Collection that I am having lots of fun with. I have only been playing for a little more than one year and it's just right for where I am at. Perhaps others would like to know about this collection as well :-)

[@comtaar2245]

You might find it interesting btw that that beautiful Van Eyck tune Doen Daphne can also be found in the Fitzwilliam virginal book by Giles Farnaby, where it is also called Daphne. But perhaps you knew that already.

[@Team_Recorder]

Thanks for sharing!

[@Yinith1]

Wow Sarah, so funny. I just randomly flew by and heard a little bit of Dutch in your accent! I did not know until I saw your “how did I end up in recorder playing” video. Cool :) Je uitspraak is super goed!

[@robertoZX64]

I came for the music, I stayed for the talk :)

[@jfthiesen2947]

A lower voice of a RECORDER is to favourite much more , than the normal one ❗️

[@jfthiesen2947]

❗️👍❗️❣️❗️👍❗️

[@jacquigough6641]

Hi Sarah, v useful info, thanks. XYZ also publish 'Der Fluyten Lust-hof The Beginners Collection' by Thiemo Wind. It has 28 relatively easy pieces, and the nice thing is they are complete, with all the variations.

[@Team_Recorder]

Oh oh oh I didn’t know this! That’s great, thanks for sharing!

[@honeychurchgipsy6]

Jacqui Gough - I have a 1998 XYZ edition - arranged and edited by Theimo Wind for Alto recorder - it has 26 pieces and - as far as I know - has all the variations. It doesn't say it's for beginners, and as these are the only van Eyck tunes I have seen notated, I have no knowledge as to whether they represent easier selections or not. Some get pretty challenging IMO.

[@robertnoblitt518]

Yes, I also have 'Der Fluyten Lust-hof' Beginner's Collection edited by Thiemo Wind. Whether you are a beginner or not, this book is probably a great way to begin playing van Eyck, and the book was not expensive. Sarah's video is very helpful in demonstrating how one can perform van Eyck.

[@devs.4254]

I've always liked Kits Alamande. Alamandes in general sound very distinctly "Renaissance," so they're great to play when dressed in costume for the Renaissance Faire, which is the whole reason I originally switched to recorder from the tin whistle. Kits Alamande was the first Van Eyck piece I tried to learn, but Claude Gervais' Allemandes were the first melodies I tried to learn due to their simplicity.

[@argonwheatbelly637]

Where I work, the bells come every quarter hour, and after the hour bell tolls the appropriate number, there is a short carillon piece that plays. It's quite lovely.

[@rubendarkgothic]

hola, saludos desde tláhuac Méjico, gracias por compartir tu trabajo.

[@deannesherriff3247]

Thanks Sarah, I’m starting a programme of listening to music as well as playing, so need lots of pointers and help. Loving working with Martin but already my fingers feel as if they’re going to drop off!

[@barrysmith7710]

Great stuff! I love heavy guitar, jazz bass, baroque harpsichord, renaissance lute and country twanging. But maybe the recorder is closest to my heart. Thanks di and keep it going!! I once interviewrd Richard Harvey, in 1979 at his house in Surbiton. Genius, do you know him?

[@nicolekeijzer1920]

Thank you for your explanation❤

[@aryeallarol1]

the first one i ever played was 'onder de linde groene' and i think it is still my favorite to this day - the only one i can play by heard, since i learned it when i was about 10.

[@dillyconnolly]

Amarilli Mia Bella, Malle Symen from book three and Laura are personally some of the most beautiful

[@andrewcranmer9653]

Second the Thiemo Wind book. Certainly not cheap, but hugely informative and terrific insights to playing them. Just to mention, some of the Dan Laurin is on iTunes as individual pieces (or the whole lot!), as is Eric Bosgraaf, and also Marion Verbruggen.

[@mattrn58]

Please avoid the kindle edition on Amazon if you have the kindle iPad app. All the music shows SIDEWAYS and there is no way to set it up correctly.

[@m21sup]

Thanks for all your videos! i am a self-taught tin whistle player but now you convinced me to move to #TeamRecorder! And also you are lovely

[@autumnhomer9786]

Thank you Sarah! 🎀🎀💙💜

[@Ph.Martin]

I just bought volume 1 of the Amadeus edition. I am surprised to hear that they have published something that is "full of mistakes" - their general introduction is very thorough and shows that they have done a great and serious job of editing this collection. So I think your "good sources" should provide clarification so as not to appear defamatory and biased toward one particular edition. That said, a big congratulations for your channel that I just discovered and that is full of wonderful things and good spirit. Helpful and fun.

[@aprilmunday1152]

Thank you. That's so useful. I wish I could tell you that I've looked at all of the pieces in the collection, but it would be a lie. My favourites are Pavane Lachrymae and Rosemont.

[@MiltonBlancoMusico]

Excelente tu introducción. Soy seguidor del compositor y a veces toco repeticiones en otro tempo, suena natural, casi como improvisatorio. en este caso no siento que pierda el caracter. tambien improviso ornamentaciones sobre las repeticiones. Es inagotable, con mi trío hemos "armonizado" Daphne y le hemos agregado un background tocado en sikus. En algunas regiones de America colonial se tocó musica de estos maestros con los instrumentos que más a mano se tenían. Un placer aprender tanto contigo. Un saludo desde Buenos Aires, Argentina. Milton Blanco

[@honeychurchgipsy6]

I have to confess that I have struggled to like van Eyck (yes - you have permission to pile in on me!!!!) and have tended to use them more as dexterity exercises. Having said that, I do only have a selection (26 tunes) arranged for Alto recorder, so may be missing many of the greats!! However, I recently discovered a video of Piers Adams playing Wat zalmen op den Avond doen on the sopranino and it made me think again. I also quite like Lanterlu and Rosemount. I do keep trying to like them - honest!!

[@FlautitandoIsis]

Que legal... Parabéns pelo vídeo...

[@2628064379]

Do you ever play van Eyck on a renaissance instrument if it does use the extended high notes?

[@mumsie27]

Thank you for yet another inspiring video Sarah, you give so much information in such a short time and so enthusiastically presented. I hope you will give us a tutorial on Ganassi’s Fontenegra, it looks tantalising but so difficult. Looking forward to your next video, they always brighten my day! Sarah

[@simonlangley8069]

Most informative. Thank you, Sarah.

[@OmaBike]

Thanks. I have a couple of volumes of these pieces and just could never really get into them. Probably because they aren't baroque.

[@idraote]

hello Sarah, this was such an interesting video! Last but not least for your information about WHERE to purchase the sheet music, which is kind of hard to find through the usual channels.

[@millennial8441]

Van Eyck is a hard composer even for experienced recorder players. It is hard for a beginner to choose a suitable option among Van Eyck's compositions that fits to him/her not so technically advanced. Maybe "Fantasia & Eco" (it is not so long, thus less tiring), "Bravade" (few variations - Theme, Modus 2 and 3) and "Preludes" from volumes 1 and 2 (extremely shorts). Many beginners would like to play Van Eyck, but they get afraid because Van Eyck's works are virtuosic repertoire.

[@jonathonblues4006]

Is the beginners selection suitable ? Just seen that on amazon when searching for Van Eyck ASIN: B009VUU0KA

[@millennial8441]

@@jonathonblues4006 I was referring to not very beginners of course. But, this book you've send me link has "Doen Daphne d'over schoone Maeght", a hard piece, mainly for last variations with its sixteenth-note diminutions running in four for a beat.

[@potrelviewer9536]

I've read the entire 3 volumes of those pieces, and given that the overall range of baroque recorders doesn't go over 2 octaves (for the most part of the pieces), I'd reckon that it would be somewhat playable on any other wind instrument, or even string instrument. For example, I've given some pieces a try on my French Horn, and it honestly doesn't sound that bad at all!

[@alujambio1]

in IMSPL Petrucci library you can obtain it scanned from free download. Inclusive Originals editions

[@ReinierdeGraafMusic]

Wat een goed Nederlands accent:)

[@AlainNaigeon]

About harmony : it happens sometimes that he doesn't put the same harmony, at some places, under several variations.

[@hoshumberry]

Excellent overview...but you left out Maria Verbruggen who also does the entire collection on Van Eyck Compliments on your technique and musicality

[@ziomatthewmusic4205]

Woohoo I have started to play Daphne and I can play the first 2 modes and sound good. pretty happy I can do this after only starting in December. I will be pro in no time haha. Like I am sure every beginner, give me a song all in lower register and I sound great but going above high e is difficult. This is really helping me to get those high f g aand a's I couldn't get before. Funny this my high e is perfect but I can't do high g or a but that is less fingers. I think because the thumb for high e is exactly half which is easy to understand and remember wheras you have to close it more for g and a which is very confusing. Or it could be to do with air. Recorder is so much more interesting and complicated than I imagined. I wish I had started many years ago. I love it.

[@ziomatthewmusic4205]

I can now play the high f's and g's yahoo :).

[@davidcampelo]

Hey dear Sarah! It's been a while since our last chat. I often give van Eyck's theme and variations pieces for my students to play...but they always play it with baroque sopranos...🙄 Mums and dads don't like the idea of spending money by buying several recorders...so I guess I'll try giving them these models as my first choice for them to buy. What do you think? Thanks! David

[@Jesuswinsbirdofmichigan]

01:57-02:00/ Knot sure how ewe dew that; [edit] close-up, but Eye laff'd sew hard! Just;As the "BRIT's" like two say- (ETRAORDINARY)! Extraordinary, extraordinary!

[@engelbertschoormans]

He actually didn't made bells, but he played on bells. He was also *blind*(!), and was one of the first who discovered the overtones in bells to tune the bells right! Maybe his blindness was a reason that the original has mistakes. ...and another question...: is it possible it was also played with lute or another continuo instrument. I mean, there are very much paintings of musicians at Dutch homes, with recorders, but also with gamba/lute/harpsichord. (i wrote my "profile scription" about the music in The Netherlands from 1575-1700)

[@raulishnikovdancer2346]

Hello, i just downloaded the recorder version from IMSLP if you go there under "Arrengments and transcriptions, there is a lute one. Hope it helps.

[@kc0dxf]

Musescore: musescore.com/user/4989866/scores/1608116

[@lorenalaura77]

Adoro i tuoi video Sara, se solo fossero sottotitolati in italiano... ☺️👏

[@yves6180]

Frans Bruggen offre une superbe interprétation de plusieurs pièces de Van Eyck

[@buddycollier5056]

Since I meet weekly with a bass viola da gamba player I am wondering if someone has written a basso continuo to go along with these. Yes, I am aware they are solo pieces intended to be played without accompaniment. But, it would still be nice to be able to share this with my Gamba player.

[@phoebussomething2921]

I'm now in love with Van Eyck! Do you think that this would be appropriate for someone who has just started playing the recorder like me?

[@DianneHeijstee]

Yes! It is a great book for everybody and every level of playing, because Van Eyck wrote so many variations. If you are a beginner, you can just play the theme melody. If you are more advanced you can go on to the more difficult variations. :)

[@phoebussomething2921]

Dianne Heijstee thanks! I'll try it out

[@noominenne7782]

Sarah! You are the best and I find your videos so informative and inspiring. In the beginning of the video you say something about soprano fingering....Do you use it on an alto for example?

[@Team_Recorder]

Yes! So I always use soprano fingerings, no matter which size of recorder I take.

[@idraote]

So, is it really doable? Reading a score for a soprano recorder and playing for example an alto recorder pretending to be playing a soprano?

[@longuevalnz]

idraote if you are playing solo, it’s absolutely doable. When you play a C for instance, the note you produce on an alto is actually an F, so if you are playing with other instruments you would be in the wrong key. If you are playing solo, not an issue.

[@yoshi8063]

I have a question for all recorder players. I wanna audition for a recorder study in music college and have to play some Van Eyck. I would like to play Laura because it's my favorite Van Eyck piece. On the college's website, they say that I'm supposed to play a piece that's as difficult as Doen Daphne or Bravade. Do you think Laura is possible or is it too easy?

[@luizalbuquerque5099]

As harpsichord player, I learned a special non tempered tune related to his works. I suppose their instruments has also such scale. I am quite curious.

[@AlainNaigeon]

Of course we should play as if we were improvising, but I can't imagine that anyone has been able to write down some of these very fast variations.

[@DianneHeijstee]

We have to realize that ages ago, there was an oral tradition. People were very much used to learning things by ear: like story telling but also music. There was no internet to look things up etcetera. So they were probably very skilled to write down fast passages, because they were more used to easily remember them. I also like to imagine that there was a group of people sitting around Van Eyck, writing all this stuff down, and combining everything they wrote down to make it complete. But I don't know if that is how it happened haha...

[@guqin]

Finally!

[@Loreman72]

Blind players can be really good. Turlough O'Carolan was a blind harpist in Ireland, whose material was thankfully written down by fans.

[@somebodysvideos7876]

Where can I find it?

[@Loreman72]

@@somebodysvideos7876 Sorry, I think you'll have to find a professional!

[@ruaraidhwishart5709]

Great video Sarah. Is there any debate about embellishing repeats in Van Eyck? Personally I think it's needed in order to keep audience interest going, but I'd be interested to know if there are other views on this.

[@DianneHeijstee]

It was very common to mix up the variations. You could for example play the theme melody, and when you repeat, you can play the first variation. Then, when you play the second half, you do the same: first the play melody and with the repeat you play the first variation. You can mix and match like this. Personally I wouldn't make too many big 'jumps' (for example from melody to last variation), because you will lose context. I think Thiemo Wind wrote something about this in his huge book about Van Eyck...

[@Vitali_Osandor]

Is it accepted practice to transcribe these pieces for other types of recorders? For example transposing them lower for alto recorder?

[@Recorder-e3e]

Aquí en Argentina utilizamos dugu dugu o diguidigui para las partes rápidas de semicorcheas. No podemos utilizar el did·ll did·ll.

[@faithelekong6394]

Hi Sarah.... My name is Faith, I've been trying to play the recorder for quite awhile now and it's like I can't do it. ... It's really hard. What should I do? I find it difficult in getting the fingers placing, the notes too. I just need help please 🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@omsagarbanjara]

love you

[@helenwaters8623]

Hello Sarah and everyone, I'm one of those fiftysomethings who's picking up the recorder again after decades away, and I've recently discovered Team Recorder. I wasn't sure where to post this question, but as I'm visually impaired and Van Eyck was blind, this seems a good place! Basically, I'm looking for advice about learning by ear, as opposed to just memorizing. I have some sight and can read music up to a point, but not at the same time as playing - and unlike some blind people I don't have perfect pitch or even a particularly good musical ear - although I do have a generally good memory. If that makes sense. Sarah, if there's any chance of a video about learning recorder without printed music, that would be awesome! And is anyone else in this situation, and does anyone have any advice? Thank you! Helen.

[@Team_Recorder]

Hi Helen! This is a really great idea- it’s something I’ve been thinking of doing a video in for a while. A colleague and good friend of mine in ine of my ensembles is visually impaired, so learning and rehearsing without sheet music is a constant topic for us. The video may take a while to plan and produce but stay tuned!

[@helenwaters8623]

Thanks so much for replying, Sarah - I really appreciate it! It's great to hear that this is a situation you're familiar with and have been giving thought to, and I look forward to hearing more.