We are Already in the Dystopia

[@SargonofAkkad]

Get Islander #2 before it is gone forever: shop.lotuseaters.com/

[@TheRealPaul_Morphy]

This is the first Sargon video I've been recommended in the last 4 years. I've actually changed into a completely different person since the last time I watched you. My mom and sister died, I grew up and got a truck driving job, and now I'm a full fledge adult without an ounce of teen angst in me. I wish you well. Thanks for being the only voice of logical reasoning in my late teens.

[@JJShurte]

Is it possible to get a list of the articles within this magazine?

[@Masterofparsnips]

Just waiting for mine to arrive.

[@jerredhamann5646]

Most of these things were decisions made by private corperations chasing profit u are a commodity. Being poor is hell i wouldnt want to force a kid to go to college and trade school 3 or 4 four times all so they can escape their rustbelt shit dump and make the same ammount of money a drop out that got a job at the gm plant made in my grandfathers generation.Finally the streets have never been safe when my dad was an adult in 88 there were literally running gunfights in the streets of most us cities due to the crack war

[@mfmageiwatch]

@SargonofAkkad why isn't there a pdf version to avoid high shipping fees? 😢

[@ShowerCurtain1]

I remember visiting in Cuba over a decade ago and seeing the old Spanish architecture and saying "man why don't we make buildings like this anymore". My brother who was with me and is a business major said with complete confidence: "Because it's a bad investment. It costs too much and doesn't return any profit to make buildings like that". That left a deep impression on me, and was the first time in my life it truly clicked in my head that something was deeply wrong with out society.

[@EdiTheDon]

Beauty is always a bad investment, to our psychopathic "betters".

[@adrenjones9301]

Back in the day when the rich flaunted their wealth in a way that made them culturally immortal. Which of today's super rich will be remembered in a few hundred years?

[@wimschmied3800]

Ironically, it's actually cheaper to build in older architecture styles than modern buildings.

[@Hope_Boat]

That's no the true answer though. The answer is because we don't build our own houses. They are stadardized.

[@rishnix]

@@adrenjones9301 Probably quite a few, but all for negative reasons.

[@tonycooke8545]

HOW DARE YOU notice the change. The party told you to reject the evidence of your own eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. George Orwell 1984.

[@GaryGeezer-l2s]

Makes me cringe so hard when people quote 1984

[@SommersetStriker]

​@@GaryGeezer-l2sWhy?

[@GaryGeezer-l2s]

@@SommersetStriker it's so overused by both sides of the political spectrum. It screams of someone who has no thoughts or personality of their own.

[@kaizokujimbei143]

@@SommersetStriker He roots for Big Brother.

[@SommersetStriker]

@@GaryGeezer-l2s That's an interesting perspective

[@vladdorunga9367]

Speaking of replacement migration: the same people saying we need young people from the third world as workers are the same ones telling us that more than half of today's workers will be obsolete because of robots / automatisation in the next 20 years.

[@ciarancosgrave]

Yes. Good point.

[@elliottgaal9774]

They seem to forget that those youths have next to no knowledge on how to maintain the lavish lifestyle our 'betters' want.

[@qoph1988]

They never gave a shit about any of the economic arguments, those were always bad faith. They just hate their own kind and want to punish them

[@LetterSignedBy51SpiesWasA-Coup]

​@DewiSant-o3yyour example is one of prosperous people spreading prosperity. That's different from unprosperous people migrating to more prosperous places.

[@clone3_7]

@@LetterSignedBy51SpiesWasA-Coup Spreading prosperity "haha" they pretty much overtake a place and take most benefits, they also ruin others to do this initially.

[@Isahiyella]

I was sitting outside on my front porch last week smoking a cigarette, when suddenly, I heard loud screaming as if someone were being murdered. Then, I realized it sounded like children screaming. For a moment, I was alarmed, my adrenaline started to spike. My initial thoughts were, what should I do? Wait around to see if I hear it again, or immediately run to the sound, or arm myself first and then run to it? At that moment I realized what I was hearing was the sound of kids playing. I thought to myself, My God, what has happened to the world when the first thought you have when hearing children play is that they're in distress? I then realized that even though I am close to a middle school and a high school, I had not heard the voices of children in a very long time. I can't recall seeing any of them playing in the streets, riding a bicycle or congregating with friends in my recent memory. When I say recent memory I mean in years, maybe a decade, or longer. When was the last time you heard a child playing with their friends, organically? Not in the confines of a playground or mall, but out in the streets of their own volition?

[@KevinOLeathlobair-u6t]

I noticed quickly the difference between the generations.. in the late 2000s and early 2010s I noticed the young people didn’t congregate like my generation did.. I graduated high school in 2000. The progression of abandoned behaviors that were important to our development is blaringly obvious today.. and the consequences are everywhere you look.. we have been lied to and guided here for the exact purpose of destroying it all.. the subversion of our history, religion, and families.. our identities all connects and is seen now and understood by tens of millions of us.. however many more are needed to stop this totalitarian take over by the global establishment.. if it even possible at this point. The indoctrination and propaganda have been incredibly successful for the establishment.. regardless the resistance among the patriots not only in America but across the Western world will be forced to stand their ground and push back.. it is impossible for things to not go kinetic really.

[@RazorFriendly]

You're not alone. I moved from Denver back to my home town in the Midwest, to my old neighborhood in a medium-sized city. It's near the high school that I went to, and it used to be alive with other kids, especially on bikes. I've been wondering lately why the only people I see on bikes are homeless drug addicts. They're everywhere, and there's garbage everywhere. This neighborhood has beautiful parks and green spaces that have either been taken over by the homeless, or targeted for venues that would pave them over and attract crime. I thought it would be an improvement from Denver, but in reality, in five years it will be like Denver, and it's a city about half the size of Denver. But it's a purple city in a red state, that is quickly turning blue, and is following the same trajectory as all blue cities.

[@Isahiyella]

@@RazorFriendly Exactly the same thing here, small suburb of Knoxville TN. Amazing how you describe your experience and how it mirrors my community. Homeless men riding around on bikes. I saw one getting arrested just the other day outside of the middle school as I was driving by, no idea what was going on there but I assume he gets arrested often. A literal shootout at the entrance to one of the neighborhoods next door to mine over a drug deal using fake money a couple of years ago. Last summer, one of the homeless bike riders overdosed and died in the bathroom of a kid centric splashpad/park down the road from me. And just this week, a 15 year old kid stabbed a 13 year old girl to death on one of the trails between my subdivision. Shit is grim.

[@goodmorningsundaymorning4533]

Man you're right 🤔 I can't think of the last time I heard or saw children outside playing. Or a group on their bikes. I grew up in the 80s and we were out every single day. We'd meet up with the neighborhood kids. Haven't seen that in decades.

[@Isahiyella]

@@goodmorningsundaymorning4533 Its surreal bro

[@ElGreenGhost]

I know we're fucked when Sargon shows back up in my algorithm

[@PRH123]

Same thing happened to me today as well, probably been years since I watched one of his videos, and today this one appears. Someone was tinkering with algorithms today I suppose :)

[@blackhawk_1317]

Same

[@ajvonline]

Yup. Same here. Things that make you go, hmmm...

[@PRH123]

@@ajvonline would be a good time to queue the x-files music :)

[@zippermonster9596]

Fo real!!

[@bodhimantra7688]

"Being well adjusted to a profoundly sick society is no measure of health" - Krishna Murti

[@DeadpoolX9]

Amen

[@curtiskretzer8898]

What's the 'measure of health" for the maladjusted?🤠

[@marcanton5357]

Jews.

[@ShaunSilk-ew7cy]

His name is Krishnamurti, at least that's his surname, his first name was Jiddu. Jiddu Krishnamurti.

[@lukeludwig1055]

@curtislretzer8898 contentment, and the absence of anxiety.

[@RobertLutece909]

That "Happiest Childless Millennial On Earth" picture is nightmare fuel.

[@troubleclliff]

It's the epitome of everything that's wrong and everything we don't want to become.

[@martinricardo4503]

Childless. Really? I am shocked.

[@CWCvilleCop]

This picture could be studied in future history classes.

[@jwardTLS]

couldn't agree more. As one of the oldest millennials (41 years old now) and having 2 kids ages 17 and 14, that picture is just so depressing for me to see. The people I personally know aren't quite that obtuse but I will say probably 80% of people 30-40 that i know who are married do not have kids and never will. It's crazy. My wife has 3 siblings and all of them are around 40 years old and will never have kids at this point. They all own houses, travel constantly and just consume. What people never stop to realize about consumption is that you always need more. That's part of the definition. There is nothing consistent and savory in these peoples' lives, which pushes them to ponder meaning.

[@basilbaby7678]

I just watched a video where a Millennial was seriously asking where all “trick or treaters” are. It’s not due to the candy supply…

[@SammEater]

I think the worst part is when you try to explain this to someone and they just go: "It just your nostalgia talking. Things are better than in your era"

[@neotronextrem]

The people don't even believe those arguments themselves. They just can't imagine how the world could be more beautiful so they assume it can't be. They've also sort of given up. Life is easy if you believe we're doing everything right.

[@kosio0808]

The great irony is that this statement always has some validity. If you compare all the opportunities, security, conveniences, health and technological breakthroughs that are available for the average person today compared to anyone else in previous eras is unprecedented. But the human condition being what it is only seeking personal gains, exploitation and influence over others inevitably creates all that mess. I guess we have a lot of evolving to do.

[@Gardenia-jm7nx]

Yeah its so annoying, I'm not kidding when I say things used to be better in some ways

[@ryancxe]

@@Gardenia-jm7nxin a lot of ways man, the world is messed up due to us rewarding the wrong things. Companies are rewarded for higher profits and higher profit margins -> world is extremely transactional (what a surprise). Companies are rewarded for the well being of the customers and their overall contribution to well being programs -> the world has many opportunities to seek well being. I don’t even know what to do with this information man but it has truth to it

[@Tom-cl1gl]

almost no one says that, everyones always nostalgic and its more annoying. people always live in the past.

[@bobcatgaze]

Yknow that feeling when you're walking in the forest and you suddenly realize that for the birds have stopped chirping and everything has been silent for a few minutes now? Yeah, its like that.

[@kellyt5341]

Great perspective

[@qoph1988]

Yeah but you're not walking through a forest. You can't even get to a forest legally. Every single space you inhabit has been designed to look like you're inside of an airport.

[@kellyt5341]

@@qoph1988 I live on 150 acres that my house is built on. 20 acres are cleared out for the house and yard. The other 130 acres are thick wooded acres. My husband made some trails through it for dirt bikes/all terrain vehicles/snow mobiles. But I mostly walk threw them. I carry a hand gun and a knife because we have bear/wolves/coyote/raccoon. I only got close to a bear once in the 15 yrs, it was on the dirt bike and I slammed on the brakes, took a sharp right threw the thorn bushes (face and arms shredded) and speed out of there. My woods made that same quiet feeling (could hear a pin drop) before a tornado went above us and landed 4 miles on the next town.

[@trevorstevenson4038]

Hahaha this is amazing! Great analogy

[@pawelabrams]

​@@qoph1988 man, where do you live? I have an open access forest like half a mile away, my whole city is surrounded by forest on two sides.

[@TheClintonio]

Hearing the origin of Utopia makes me never want to use the term positively again.

[@enoughothis]

Utopia is actually a dystopia by any definition of the word

[@JM-vp8zc]

It was never intended to be a positive. More deliberately used a homophone of eutopia, “good place,” to make that very point.

[@antonikudlicki1100]

Utopia originally was a shitpost Thomas More made out of boredom in his camp, having travelled Canal La Manche to see the French king, who got late to the meeting. Thomas More was killed for not foresaking catholicism despite his country's interests. I like that saint, he's my saint patron in fact - his life points out the thin red line between being a patriotic catholic and enabling state tyranny through misguided nationalism

[@Harmonic_shift]

Wait until you learn what the origin of sophisticated is lmao

[@greensmurf221]

Never was

[@Lastindependentthinker]

Welcome to Animal Farm. Where YOU are the livestock.

[@jessicalacasse6205]

the reason eve was thrown out of heaven ...

[@davidripley2916]

. . . No I'm not ! Baaaaa! 🐑

[@KarlSnarks]

You do know Orwell was a socialist right?

[@oblonghas]

It is a farm, undoubtedly

[@cherryseptember8697]

@@davidripley2916 Love it. Quite frankly, that's exactly the attitude of most of my friends, family and neighbours.

[@posthardcoresinger]

This shit is so prevalent within dating. Nobody is interested in building something that makes them want to sacrifice. It's all me me me, entertain me, pay me etc. Nothing do to with mutual growth. Honestly fucking disgusting how we waste our lives.

[@Friggsdottir]

Not all of us do

[@sn0wchyld]

Given that sentiment - how old are you? Just wondering if its prevelant among my own age (30's) or mainly yonger?

[@420rogerz]

im 38 and its real bad. Only hope is an older chick whos not insane.

[@posthardcoresinger]

@@sn0wchyld 35, but I mostly look to date women somewhere around 25. I have to if I want to plan ahead for maybe a year of dating, two years of building a marriage and travelling together figuring out where w want to live, then kids when ready. There might be less crazy women in the older brackets (or not IDK, my generation is nuts too) but that's not on the table for me unless she's just completely exceptional and it happens by chance.

[@sn0wchyld]

@@posthardcoresinger feel for you mate... I'm a couple of years older (38) but been with the current squeeze since my early 20s... so haven't dated in a LONG time, hence the curiosity what's changed. If I was in your shoes I'd be looking a bit older, but I get the reasoning. You can travel with kids too... my parents did that lots. Maybe just make sure she's not nutts and go from there? :D best of luck.

[@malsypright]

Utopia sounds like a place I'd crawl under barbed wire to get away from

[@carsonianthegreat4672]

That was St. Thomas More’s whole point

[@Novusod]

There is no place to crawl away from. The entire Earth has become a prison planet.

[@chaot8290]

@@Novusod if you find yourself in a utopia you always can turn it in a dystopia.

[@TubeOnRichard]

That is the dream, if only there was barbwire to crawl under - and somewhere else to go.....

[@KopperNeoman]

@@Novusod Hopelessness is the Enemy's bread and butter, for he cannot assail the Man from whom Hope springs.

[@apolloparker4963]

I'm 24 and everyone around me is simply just clocked out. Ever since COVID it's like we got shifted into this grey area of the old world. No one can find good jobs. No one can find someone decent to be in a relationship with. No one can find somewhere to live. No one knows what to do anymore. We are ignored by older generations at every turn. There is not much left to look forward to. I am not depressed, but man it's enticing to just throw everything away, grab some tarp, and head for the woods.

[@simonestreeter1518]

As one from the 'older generations', I could say to you that it is we who are being ignored by the younger generations.

[@bearrett50kal17]

​@@simonestreeter1518 you reap what you sow

[@apolloparker4963]

@@simonestreeter1518 Tell your generation to start paying livable wages instead of importing immigrants to pay pennies on the dollar. Tell your generation to stay out of our dating market and to stop buying OnlyFans. Tell your generation to stop buying up residential areas, skyrocketing the prices, then offering ludicrous rent.

[@dkkurtz]

@@simonestreeter1518 Maybe listen again starting at 8:53

[@simonestreeter1518]

@@dkkurtz It applies to the OP. Knowledge from experience doesn't trickle up.

[@doscassette871]

"You best start believing in Cyberpunk Dystopias Miss Turner, you're in ONE!"

[@TheRyujinLP]

I knew someone back in 2013 who ran a GURPS Cyberpunk game and he opened it up a speech with describing the (at the time) modern world, the things going on, how dystopic things were getting, and ending it, "So you want to play Cyberpunk Choomba? You're already living it."

[@rustyshackleford1062]

All the corpo-croney politicking, none of the sci-fi bodymod 2a to go alongside it though.

[@Swagbastian]

I was thinking of making an edit with this exact line

[@doscassette871]

@@rustyshackleford1062 Be the change you want to see.

[@DawidEstishort]

Except it's a boring one. At least hurry up and give us cool body augumentations and realistic AI girfriends already.

[@cleverduck3921]

In regards to why McDonalds and Pizza Huts, and other fast food restaurants changed the branded, themed architectural styles of their buildings to something more brutalist and generic is more to do with technical reasons of how these businesses operate. McDonalds is not a restaurant company. It is a real estate company, that makes the majority of its money by leasing the properties that it owns to small business franchise holders, and enforcing brand standards and corporate directives through those leasing agreements. What McDonalds and Pizza Hut found during the 90s, when many of these franchisees were closing down their locations, either because they weren't profitable anymore, or the owners had reached retirement age, and didn't have anyone to hand the reigns over to, is that the themed buildings with distinctive architecture were not easy to unload in the real estate markets. Those buildings sat vacant and unused for most of the 90s and 2000s, until the price dropped on them enough that someone wanting to open a chiropractic clinic, or insurance office could afford to buy the property and renovate it to their needs. The new style McDonalds and Pizza Huts, or whatever other of your favorite franchise are depressing, generic, and brutalist, but they're easier to offload when the market changes, and the franchise shuts down. And I'm not saying that's a good thing, or desirable to society as a whole, just that that is the actual, technical reason why buildings are trending this way.

[@johnnykeys1978]

Ah. So... greed. Yes, that's what I thought.

[@JakesFavorites]

That's right! I do remember a heavily dilapidated Pizza Hut that lay abandoned for several years because no one would buy the land and it was very unfeasible to redo the building to NOT be a Pizza Hut. They were designed in a time where the businessmen thought they were immortalizing themselves, that Pizza Hut would live forever. That meme of them being a fallen empire is true.

[@TheBanjoShowOfficial]

Exactly proving his point- efficiency

[@420rogerz]

again efficiency overpowering functionality... it might be easier to resell the building but it comes at a cost.

[@Anaax]

This whole video is just a bunch of vague nonsense and fear-mongering. The fact that he tried to use McDonalds as evidence of there being a dystopia is hilarious.

[@8BitNaptime]

I just went to McDonald's, and there were two homeless guys loudly discussing their various scabs and skin problems while people right next to them were glued to watching digital feces on their phones...

[@MegaCharlie11]

Bet you were there to solve all the worlds problems and get the healthy option while not enjoying some digital pink eye. Uh huh....

[@carlhartwell7978]

🤪

[@redpillnibbler4423]

‘digital faeces’ - brilliant 🤣

[@anderander5662]

​@redpillnibbler4423 You must be British with that extra letter in feces but I agree 100%

[@NicholasCampbell-c8y]

A typical 2pm at your local Mickey D's

[@chance_ondriezek99]

I think that claim became undeniable when communism became treated as if it were a harmless, mainstream ideology.

[@malicekerendu3574]

And separated from it's related ideologies (nat soc and fash)

[@Afrologist]

@@malicekerendu3574All started by sorting all socialist ideologies into "left" or "right" when they are all leftwing.

[@storm___]

​@@malicekerendu3574here we go with the madeup nonsense that was never true in the first place and even at the time was laughed at.

[@gfdnnfnfgnfgn]

Bad guys won ww1 and ww2

[@JC-em4tx]

​@storm___ all three of those ideologies descend from or are inspired from Marx's writings, no? Did not proponents of both those ideologies write positively of Marxism and put their own twist on it?

[@whitemagus2000]

I work in Portland Oregon so I have lots of lefty friends and coworkers. I've asked many, "weren't things better in the 90s? Weren't things chill and you could do and say whatever you wanted?" They all say, yes, those were better times. ALL OF THEM. They all say yes. They I ask, "well maybe we should return to 90s policies and laws..." They then respond, "oh no, that wouldn't be progressive at all". Again. ALL OF THEM. Every single one responds basically the same way. They all know that America was greater in the 90s, but none can say it. They all must say that America was never great and the emperor's clothes are magnificent. It's sad to see them ALL living a lie and every day speaking what they know to be false.

[@mirceazaharia2094]

"Progress is the realisation of Utopias." -Oscar Wilde Having watched this video, tell me if their image of "progress" is something that any sane human being should want?

[@Xplora213]

You should switch the call to action… what was the point of the progress if they are now just as caged as when they were in the 80s? They have traded one oppressor for another.

[@jarlbalgruuf7701]

Something in the water in Portland

[@zf436]

imagine thinking the 90s was great and and wasn't just a necessary stepping stone to get where we are now.

[@jessicalacasse6205]

they don t want to feel they are the problems it is how we ended up with 14 holy crusade caus if things suck here it is the fault ofhuma living on the other side of the earth lmfao ...

[@kaybeiz]

Thank you for calling out therapy for what is. 🙏 The purpose of therapy: "to train people who know that they are living an unhealthy and unnatural lifestyle, to accept this fate, and not fight against it."

[@XDamainI]

Why is that a bad thing though? Accepting your reality and what you cannot change is not a bad thing. You can still vote, you can still advocate, you can participate in a higher level to bring about the change on your external factors but you cannot do that until you at least control your response to it down to a manageable level.

[@rhythmdroid]

Dystopia is a genre of art that only flourishes when people still have a seed of hope for the future in them. It’s serves as a warning and as entertainment - it says “we COULD go there, but don’t worry, we won’t” That’s no longer the sentiment amongst the average creative person.

[@TomOwen-w1j]

yeah people stopped writing those books because at some point, non-fiction just doesn't appeal to the masses

[@teatowel11]

Yes, when the distopia is distant and abstract and you have something better it induces fear and intrigue and is engaging. When distopian seems inevitable, the genre just fills you with dread.

[@alexcarter8807]

Dystopia was an escape, a sort of "what if?". It's a lot less amusing when you feel you might be in it. In the 1930s in the US, "Musicals" were huge. The old Busby Berkeley ones with tons of dancers, Shirley Temple movies (we called her Shirley Pimple haha) things like that. They were escapes. War movies got big after WWII.

[@SammEater]

It is why our culture gave up on hope. Compare the Star Trek from our parents era to current day Star Trek. Nothing but nihilistic pr0n written by the worst people in society.

[@jemmah4723]

I think you’ve hit the nail on the head there

[@kirkdean4116]

Carl never stop uploading here please.

[@internetuser969]

It's his only way of remaining relevant 😂

[@Kneejair]

​@@internetuser969you know the lotus eaters exist right?

[@MaxG-jk8ty]

​@@kaoskronostyche9939You won't be missed.

[@JacobBite]

​@@kaoskronostyche9939 traitors first

[@jamesmandahl444]

@KlabauterManiac I know this type. The kind of snark and whine can only come from karens and homosexuals. white progressives that live amongst whites, have one or two colored pet friends, and is totally detached from current year existence. They are NOT okay with what you guys are posting. Be better!

[@SimioCaos101Monkey]

Like TIKhistory said: "All the deaths of communism didn't happen because it failed. It worked as intended."

[@Skeloperch]

TIKhistory's name is mud on this side of the internet because he points out how commies and Nazis are de facto rather similar and had only minor disagreements. Him pointing out that Nazism is left wing wins him no friends among the leftwingers nor the maligned rightwingers who believe they are actually Nazis because the media said so. Hitler apologia on the right is a result of people constantly being demonized by the media as literally the SS for wanting border controls so they mistakenly believe Adolf and the 'zis were based.

[@handroids1981]

Absolute baller quote.

[@amalekedomite]

Whoa there, cool it with the anti-semitism, bucko!

[@marcanton5357]

Jews.

[@hjqw1pe]

1- You don't know what communism means. 2- Capitalism has resulted in far more death than the supposed "communism".

[@skyeparker1333]

The video unironically ending with a commercial is just the cherry on top

[@penta_novae]

Glad I'm not the only one disgusted by this. Carl never changes. Always in it for himself, for the money.

[@420rogerz]

@@penta_novaeI mean do you expect him to do these videos for free, for your viewing pleasure? Also the closing ad is the easiest one to just close.

[@RealDevastatia]

To top it off, the magazine he mentioned isn't even listed in the shop.

[@hahathatisfunnybro]

Exactly that pissed me off so much. That part of the video is where he was supposed to add a little positivity or suggest a solution of some kind. He does promise that, but its behind a paywall… Thats how you can tell he only made this video to play on the negative outlook of doom scrollers. I actually thought he was better than that because most videos like this that try to play on your emotions to get clicks, usually come of as conspiracy nonsense quoting 1984 the whole time and ramping up the negativity to the max for maximum attention in the algorithm. This video didn’t come off as like that, until he put the ‘action plan for a solution’ in a fking online magazine.

[@peighnesshonourchign9164]

People still say "unironically"?

[@nebula0024]

"But we never question the nature of therapy itself, which is to train people who know they are living an unnatural and unhealthy lifestyle to accept this fate, and not fight against it". This is SO painfully accurate. Tried it myself for a while (several months), and this is exactly what was pushed on me. Yeah, not doing that again. 😅

[@carsonhunt4642]

Precisely. I’ve always viewed therapy as a way to gaslight yourself into accepting playing the modern social games. Nothing wrong with that, but just must admit it’s not natural and your urge against it was. But if want to play , then may as well train better ? Something like that

[@josedorsaith5261]

Noticed that after reading the DSM. All of the disgnosic criteria for mood disorders focus on attitudes/behaviours. Not one mention of the environment

[@josedorsaith5261]

​@@carsonhunt4642 "Nothing wrong with that" The suicide rate proves otherwise. It's not healthy or normal

[@Jester375]

@@josedorsaith5261 Yeah. Great point. It is also why they change so much with each version - the diagnosis changes with the norms.

[@liammeech3702]

You had a bad therapist then. Therapy is not supposed to be for the long term really, unless you're dealing with PTSD or something.

[@rogueraven7603]

The Nobel prize is a good example. Originally intended to reward people for their contributions to humanity now it’s used to guide humanity as it were. The subtle shifts that add up.

[@AleXoEx0]

The people who win all the prizes are in the same tribe as those that decide it, what a surprise!

[@BeBoppin2000]

​@@AleXoEx0I guess your tribe just can't measure up.

[@uptoolate2793]

​@@BeBoppin2000yeah, that's not it.

[@skurinski]

​@@BeBoppin2000gladywouldnt eant to measure up to war mongerers like Obummer who won the nobel peace prize

[@DickGoesonya]

Name the year the last person to receive that prize for actual peace Betty Williams Ireland 1976.

[@agm5424]

Utopias are just Dystopians where the protagonist doesn't understand the mess he or she is in.

[@redpillnibbler4423]

Happy eaters.

[@JJ-si4qh]

It feels like the dystopia is on purpose. There is no way this isn’t intentional

[@Huey_Freeman357]

Exactly, all by design.

[@redpillnibbler4423]

I’d never have guessed 🤔

[@musicat3243]

An utopia for some a dystopia for many

[@Spacemonkeymojo]

We all know who is orchestrating all of this.

[@cottoncandykawaii2673]

the tiny hats hate all non tiny hats and see us as slaves

[@SolidNeodark]

Whenever we talk about how much worse things have gotten in the past decades, there's always a leftie on the internet who brainlessly attributes our criticisms of modernity to "rose-colored glasses" or "nostalgia", even if we provide them with solid data. Ultimately, it's an unending cycle of "things are changing, but it's for the better" followed by "nothing has changed, it was always this bad, or worse."

[@elLooto]

the base premise of progressivism is that yesterday was worse than today, and tomorrow will be better than today, as a natural phenomenon.

[@Mummymunmuggy]

Very well put. It's a tennis game of rationalizing why things are no good.

[@garethbattersby]

Ive even had them now claiming old photographs of the 70s and 80s with clean streets, happy British populations, thriving high streets and markets at AI images. They remind me of flat Earthers, you can explain to them in detail why theyre wrong, you can show them phonographic evidence, even have people who were there to tell them how it was... and theyll still reject it as a trick. But I think thats the saddest part, because I genuinely think they know life right now is bad, but they would rather live in a lie than think theyve been robbed of something, that theyve missed out. Theyve always lived in the cage, and so have you so stop lying

[@marcanton5357]

Jews.

[@zantas-handle]

Disappointingly, the anti-nostalgia argument isn't what it used to be :)

[@nicksam5518]

The focus on productivity and efficiency results in the soulkilller. Modern buildings and art alone screams this. Older homes and buildings LOOK SO MUCH BETTER.

[@Iscobroooooo]

You understand the people who built most those were slaves correct ? The ultimate form of productivity and efficiency

[@JamesJones-pz9uo]

​@@Iscobroooooo we're all slaves. We just don't think we are

[@ml-fishing1341]

@@Iscobrooooooold homes were built by which slaves and where.

[@lawbird5803]

it's jews.

[@Evil-Rod-Farva]

@@Iscobroooooothis. I had to keep reminding myself of this while walking Rome and the Vatican. It’s easy to make beautiful shit when the person doing it can’t say no.

[@REALjohnmosesbrowning]

I'm from the central valley of California. I have spent a lot of time in the city of Riga in Latvia- a truly old-world city with medieval origins. The first time I went to the old city it blew my mind. It was the first time in my life that I actually truly enjoyed being in a city. The building are mostly from the 17th and 18th century, with brick-paved streets and beautiful, vibrant paint schemes on the walls and decorative sculptures and artwork adorning every corner. It made me realize how truly shit most modern urban centers are. I'm used to beige strip malls, no plants for shade, drug abuse and vagrancy in plain sight everywhere you go, and gaudy advertising clogging up every single artifice of the place I call home. It is astonishing how much difference it made.

[@ironclad4451]

modern design is garbage, it has lost any distinct style, it has neither the brute efficiency of structures made purely for strength or function, NOR the beauty of structures made to bring joy. we have sacrificed everything, on the altar of budget. *weeps in giant dwarven castle city*

[@TheMetalValkyrie]

its all to cage the populace instead of liberate us, the beige cage and death of what they fear, the spirit

[@eeleye733]

I used to live in Augsburg and i had a similar experience there. Every day i couldnt wait to get out and just walk around. I've wanted to go to riga for a long time. And maribor, slovenia. Instead, i rot in missouri..

[@ananda_miaoyin]

Cali here, too. If you ever get the chance, check out Salisbury in England. It is a medieval city. Absolutely bitchin. There is a car park at the King George Mall because you cannot drive in the city. It is a warren of bad ass stone; makes you feel like King Arthur is going to walk around the corner with a bunch of knights. The cathedral is the most impressive piece of architecture I have ever seen anywhere on Earth and it has the Magna Carta in it. THE Magna Carta.....dude.

[@Maridun50]

I've visited Tallinn - a truly medieval little city with beautiful buildings from the 14. and 15. centuries. Lovely.

[@wan3416]

We moved even further out from a massive city in 2022. I commute 1-1.5hrs each way so we can live in a smaller town, on land, with wholesome neighbors. Our town is big on the local high schools and word of mouth are the prevailing ways to grow your local business. Neighbors talk to one another and we look out for each others’ kids.

[@lidmc796]

What you on about? You're stuck because of that shitty attitude​@@ErinHoneyBunny

[@pizzatopsy8656]

The future was supposed to be shinny and chrome….and instead we got Gray blocks and Desaturated colors. We live in Demolition Man

[@ドリフト180X]

Gray and square, sounds like both Soviet and current Russia. Bleak.

[@ba3725]

Cyberpunk

[@basilbaby7678]

1984, Brave New World, Atlas Shrugged, etc… I think we’re careening towards THX…imo…

[@marcusbullock630]

@@basilbaby7678 *the country is now deaf*

[@VioletDeathRei]

​@@ba3725Cyberpunk is an interesting one what is the dystopia? The poor and unfortunate are not being cared for well the powerful and elite horde everything for themselves. So in other words the same as every single moment of human history from the past until now including the present day. So basically everything is normal save they can treat far more conditions, and heal way more wounds, and for the most part people are fairly free to make their own mistakes.

[@trajanfidelis]

Fight back or lose everything. It's nearing a point of no return.

[@joesomebody3365]

There's no "point of no return", the system collapses when it reaches anything nearing that point. Instead teach people to fight against it, and be ready to rebuild when the current corrupt edifice falls to pieces.

[@samuel5591]

All well and good to say but how? How do you fight back when every single government, corporation and institute is already corrupted, or complicit?

[@MrChrisRP]

@@samuel5591 Let them know just how foul and disgusing mind-control gubernare mentis is.

[@Zanuka]

@@samuel5591 imo, at the very least one can try having children with a like minded person, instilling your values, tradition and culture onto your children, taking care of them and your family. As for the bigger picture I don't know.

[@KopperNeoman]

@@samuel5591 I choose to put my faith in He who is stronger than Death, myself.

_“Come to me, all you who are weary and burdened, and I will give you rest”_ *- Matthew 11:28*

[@jane---489]

*_"We are already in the Dystopia" - Yes Sargon, we know ..._*

[@85justsomedude]

I mean no shit , right? Guy on here acting like he discovered oxygen

[@jane---489]

@@85justsomedude *_Oh kook, a salty, sour little sociopath ..._*

[@dryciderz]

Lol

[@Dude0000]

13:06 This ‘short’ from Bald & Bankrupt’s video with the ‘sex worker’ walking along with the socialistic slogans, and multicultural icons in the background, moving past, as though on a conveyor belt, is Oscar nomination worthy. The contradictions revealed in that short clip could not have been scripted. It must have been a stroke of serendipity, possibly seeing the opportunity right before he did it, but certainly not planned before he left his hotel room that day, or anytime before that. A true iconic work of art.

[@georgeorwell8501]

I, for one, am enjoying our low-budget cyber dystopia. The wifi speeds are phenomenal.

[@dagdamor1]

I'm just saying, I drive through Los Angeles on the semi-regular, so I get a front row seat to most of the city looking worse than how they portrayed Detroit in Robocop.

[@JaimeG88]

Diversity = Strength

[@thelastofus2872]

​@@JaimeG88diversity = division and weakness, stop serving koolaid.

[@Alex-me3yn]

i did not grow up far from kensington avenue, which is probably the worst area of the country it doesnt even look first world in most sections

[@keldsports8337]

I’d buy that for a dollar!

[@toms3664]

​@@JaimeG88Yes. Diversity = Wealth also.

[@carlkermode899]

The irony of ending such an eloquent speech with another advertisement for another product is not lost on me.

[@Lienhardismus]

kind of degrades the whole message

[@zantas-handle]

@@Lienhardismus Why would you say that my friend? Does an argument only deserve merit if it isn't promoted or sold? Do we have to live on fresh air to be 'good'? I wonder what you think?

[@Lienhardismus]

​@@zantas-handle no we do not, but it makes it appear more sincere otherwise it might be suspected that the message is just used as a vehicle to make a sell or fish for symphathy to make a sell more likely but i do not think Sargon is doing this but if i wouldnt know Sargon i might think he is it throws the motivation into question

[@zantas-handle]

@@Lienhardismus Ah, OK - right, I see where you're coming from, thanks.

[@elliottbaker201]

Making a buck ain't bad, every man works for a buck.

[@ianonymous3803]

Both definitions are horrendous. Unfortunately, the psychos in control just will not leave people alone.

[@Justice-ian]

I disagree with the idea that making public spaces about children is a sign of mature adults who realize the world isn't about them. The "fun" children's entertainment you depict is a recent invention of ridiculous adults, actively teaching children that the world *does* revolve around _them_ , and did not exist _anywhere_ until a few decades ago. Until _very_ recently, "child's play" was *always* about pretending to be adults (cowboys, Robin Hood) or playing at adult activities (tea parties, "Swallows and Amazons", Huck and Jim) in preparation for adulthood.

[@stevenvater2681]

Your post hit a very important point on the head. I'm old and boy you are absolutely correct on child's play.

[@Justice-ian]

@@stevenvater2681 Thanks! If being "old" means not being a part of today's nonsense, I gladly accept being old.

[@PrinceoftheVioletFlame]

When I was a child .... being a child meant learning how to be an adult. Everything was about preparation for adult hood including children cartoons now a days childhood is about never growing up. And we are seeing the effects to this day with adults that are still children.

[@Roikat]

Also, there’s a factual error in the video in claiming that McDonald’s all used to have “play spaces”. That was actually a rarity. Most McDonald’s restaurants have been sterile uninviting places since I can remember, which is obviously longer than Sargon remembers.

[@Numantino312]

in terms of kids time/kids space versus same for adults, and because it's october, halloween used to be a kids' thing, and "halloween parties" among adults were rare. in 2020s, you won't find a nighttime street thronged with dozens of kids about. tho you'll probably find a "halloween party". also, people who decorated for halloween did so in last week of october, not last week of september.

[@casbyness]

Back in my first year at university, there was a grand old corridor very close by to my student room on campus. Panelled woodwork, busts of famous historical figures mounted on display columns, valuable paintings on the walls. Lots of classy browns, golds, and silvers in the general colour scheme. Students and visitors loved the place, and the idea of causing any harm to it or the valuable items it held wasn't even considered. Then the new college 'Fire Marshal' arrived. Unfortunately, it's incredibly difficult to argue against people who compaign for more safety and security. These are seemingly concrete concepts that appear to be inherently good, with the broad counterpoint being the much more nebulous and abstract concepts of freedom, quality of life, human happiness, etc. Why would you not want to make a place more safe? Do you WANT people to die? Are you willing to take that risk? So - into the grand old corridor came the fire extinguishers, the rubber-sealed safety doors, the fire-resistant paint, efficiently applied and neatly spaced out at perfectly routine intervals. Out went the more valuable decorations. And then the slightly less valuable ones. And then all the paintings. And then all the wood panelling and antique display stands. And then everything else that didn't have a purpose or ergonomic value. What is the "point" of hanging a painting on a wall, anyway? Isn't it JUST an unnecessary fire risk? What is this "art" you speak of, human? Over the course of one year, all the things that made the corridor a great space to pass through or wander around were gone. It became a drab, featureless, extremely safe and hopelessly boring area to inhabit. The baby was well and truly thrown out with the bathwater, all in the name of fire safety, risk management, and greater efficiency. In short, the corridor was destroyed in the name of preserving the corridor. This was because someone was specifically hired and paid to examine things from an inhuman perspective that valuable items and places should not be examined from. At least, not without oversight from a human perspective that is tasked with balancing the efficient, safe, and concrete against the much more crucial but considerably more abstract notions of beauty, meaning, and happiness. Back when King Charles was still a Prince, the wisest thing he ever said was (paraphrasing) "Human intuition is absolutely necessary. If you cast aside intuition and rely solely on efficient empirical testing for everything, then every test you conduct will be a test to destruction. You HAVE to simply 'know' when the balloon is big enough, or every balloon you try to blow up will burst." There is a punchline to this story, of sorts. You see, the college Fire Marshal also lived on campus, in a room at the bottom of an old college staircase, adorned with wood panelling, ornate decorations like busts and statues, nice looking stonework, a few antique paintings, etc. Did the Fire Marshal prescribe the same changes to his living area that he did to the grand corridor on the other side of the college? Did he recommend to college senior management that - in the name of safety - all the nice things be removed from his staircase, replaced with fire doors, fire extinguishers, grey fire resistant paint, etc? No, of course he didn't. The Fire Marshal wanted the place where HE lived to look nice. So he could show it off to visitors, and feel good about himself when he left for work each morning. He only ruined the parts of the college that he had no direct stake in. He only viewed the world from a natural human perspective when it was HIS human wants and needs on the line. Everywhere else was fair game for destruction in the name of efficiency and safety, EXCEPT where those things threatened HIS happiness.

[@samuel5591]

So why did nobody repeatedly raise the issue of his area being a massive fire risk? One of the best ways to defeat something is to use it's own rules against it.

[@Guardsmen4]

i would have complained every day that area near him was massive fire risk

[@rishnix]

That's a terrible punchline. I was expecting you to tell us that the fire safety guy's home caught on fire.

[@vintagesteel]

Beautifully written comment. It seems that we have a 'fire marshal' appointed in every position of authority these days. Everywhere from education to the government to the private sector and everywhere in between. They're all heartless and insufferable.

[@casbyness]

@@vintagesteel Yep. The aliens and robots we've put in charge don't understand why things like pubs or pets exist. Such things have no value from the top-down model of worker drone civilisation.

[@SunTzu176]

We are trapped in the belly of a great and terrible machine, and the machine is bleeding to death.

[@Jeremy-ho3vi]

Can I drink Coffee with you?

[@ThePaintballer1994]

@@Jeremy-ho3vime too. Quote goes hard.

[@shayaannegit6066]

That's from East Hastings right?

[@1x93cm]

MORE MEAT FOR THE BARBIE!

[@PrebleStreetRecords]

Goodspeed you anonymous commenter….

[@nin9249]

Ive known it was coming my whole life and witnessed the many tendrils of destruction. I have protested , negotiated, been ostracised, arrested, mocked and intimidated for trying to point out to humans what was happening. Im now 48.

[@kitsimmonds.344]

Sigh, I've been warning my friends and family about slipping into a miserable surveillance state for the past 20 years. I was dismissed by most as a far right conspiracy theorist, that said things are worse now than I could have imagined when I started banging on about immigration and the power of the state. Will close my mouth now in case I get arrested for dissent of some kind. Edited due to predictive text tricking me....

[@gerhardswanepoel3493]

That you can use the term "conspiracy theory" to magically escape guilt or scrutiny is part of the problem. The English language has been infiltrated by foreign concepts not native to it.

[@Krysnha]

I live in latin america, and when latin america is becoming better and better than the west you know is done

[@gfdnnfnfgnfgn]

Stop cucking, organize and destroy. Read siege

[@joesomebody3365]

@@Krysnha That's great, but make sure you learn from our mistakes. There are tyrants in every land and amongst every people.

[@Krysnha]

@@joesomebody3365 I know the lesson the problem is that the people surrouding me and in mi nation tipical latin america, they want everithing for free and do nothing for it, they dont give chances to the youth and when the youth loss everithing they vote left, latin america is doom to that, Argentina is excpetion because they touch bottom, what i dont know is when things get better, wont return to the same, that only time will tell

[@TheColonelKlink]

Create the problem. Present yourself as the solution to the problem. Government.

[@MrChrisRP]

The word LITERALLY means "mind-control." "Gubernare mentis"

[@KopperNeoman]

It makes Americans mad to say this: but this was the entire point of 1776.

[@marcanton5357]

Jews.

[@shanedpain7734]

Hegelian Dialect. Problem-Reaction-Solution. They don’t even solve the problems they create, they use the guise of security/protection to extort monies, exactly how Organised Crime works.

[@Simonsimon-fy3hq]

“The nine most terrifying words in the English language are ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan.

[@Astorath_the_Grim]

You better start believing in a cyberpunk dystopia because you're living in one.

[@TheFatalcrest]

😂 darn we are in the early generations of it, no cool cyberbodies or full on revolution for us

[@Astorath_the_Grim]

​@TheFatalcrest I don't think we are gonna get those. Well the plebs at least.

[@roman8197]

a cyberpunk dystopia would be preferable to this

[@panzer00]

​​@roman8197 We already live in one. Look at the technology available and who controls it? Corporations. Look at the influence Corporations have on society. Everyone consumes their products, their tv shows, their movies, their video games, their everything. We are not free.

[@biwnzixebrxb4786]

No no no, that title belongs to 2020 Hong Kong. You just aren’t cyberpunk enough.

[@Katrina-mx2sf]

My mom died last November. I miss her. She used to say we need a benevolent dictator.

[@Andrew-sj9tr]

We really do

[@cleitondecarvalho431]

I've been telling this for 15 years now, my country, Brazil, is a hell of place to survive. There is no serious consequences for murderers etc.

[@kojeta3200]

Also Brazilian here. A cada dia que passa eu simplesmente não consigo nem acreditar que essa merda de país é real. Uma nação completamente desprovida de educação, que frequentemente esquece de sua própria cultura, valores e história, totalmente destruída pelo crime, violência, medo, desigualdade social, corrupção e apego à pobreza. É um país aonde pisar nos outros e levar vantagem em qualquer situação é considerado o normal, enquanto ajudar o próximo ou tentar conquistar um bom futuro para si mesmo é estranho. Não vou ser 100% pessimista e dizer que o Brasil não tem salvação... mas, se tem, ainda vai demorar MUITO pra chegar

[@cleitondecarvalho431]

@@kojeta3200 disseste tudo :(

[@luizmonad777]

@@kojeta3200 bring back Dom Pietro.

[@mudra5114]

Dude, living in Brazil beats living in India, by a mile, EVEN IF crime rates in India are quite low. Trust me on this.

[@iBullyDemons]

Sounds like you're free to take retribution on the people responsible for it then.

[@binaryflat]

I have been an avid naturalist all of my life, and I notice nature is not what it used to be. Years ago I could observe a single Milkweed plant, and it had a microcosm of insects on it. It had bees, wasps, beetles, true bugs, and butterflies, all doing their thing. Now I can walk by a whole colony of Milkweed, and see only one bee, or butterfly. I mention this to folks and get no response. The pests like ticks, chiggers, and mosquitoes seem to be legion, however.

[@flowersofthefield340]

✅️✅️✅️ A dieing world ...... ☠️............ Do you know the real reason why ?

[@kerim.peardon5551]

I will say that I'm seeing more bugs where I live. This summer, I have actually gotten bug splats on my windshield again. It's still not like it was in the 80's, but it's more than it's been in a really long time. On a completely unrelated note, my state, starting back in May, outlawed the spraying of aerosols into the sky to modify the weather. Oddly enough, all those "contrails" that planes were making that held together like clouds and did not dissipate are no longer seen in the skies. Now, contrails from planes dissipate pretty quickly, as one would expect from something that's mere water vapor.

[@binaryflat]

@@kerim.peardon5551 Wow that is great! It’s funny how the government still denies that they are doing that, but it is obvious they are. Hopefully they will be banned everywhere. The past couple of days they haven’t sprayed here.

[@binaryflat]

@@kerim.peardon5551 They keep deleting my reply. I’m glad they banned them where you are. I wish that was worldwide.

[@binaryflat]

@@kerim.peardon5551 Even with the ban, they deny that they exist.

[@henryasselin123]

I was thinking this the other day. We're already in it folks

[@gavinvick3592]

We’ve always asked “can we do it” and never “should we do it”

[@Noperare]

Reminds me CD Project, creators of Cyberpunk 2077, came to Los Angeles and find out real LA is worse than Night City, which was meant to be a dystopian LA. The class difference between the millionaire celebrities in their gated communities and the average joe that has to walk on streets covered in human feces and heroin needles beats any Cyberpunk "class struggle".

[@jakeschwartz2514]

I agree to an extent, because la is still part of a, for now, ordered nation vis a vi the united states where as night city is a corpo anarchist state where they make the rules 100% and is the very definition of a failed state and society. But yes, LA has the clearest view of a dystopian environment within America, chicago would also be one

[@Jaapst]

@@jakeschwartz2514New York definitely too

[@b.a.m.5078]

Bring back Pizza Hut nationalism.

[@mupty]

I imagine younger generations thinking the Pizza Hut name was just a metaphor and not because the restaurant was literally shaped like huts.

[@bruceyawen6160]

We must secure the existence of our franchise buildings and a future for deep dish pizzas

[@maxis2k]

I've actually seen a number of new classic sit in Pizza Huts opening on the west coast of the USA. They do exist. But for how long...

[@MatthewVanston]

Regina supreme!!!

[@giantent763]

@@bruceyawen6160 Need 2 more words.

[@Just_a_turtle_chad]

_"You will own nothing, and you will be happy."_

[@klausschwabshubris]

Indeed.

[@joshheinink]

Well im not

[@UnhingedJessie]

Still waiting for the "happy" part, Turt. 2024, will get back to you in a decade or so.

[@CleverGirlAAH]

@@UnhingedJessie It's not meant for you. It's meant for your children to be educated that they're happy.

[@klausschwabshubris]

@@CleverGirlAAH I would change (educated) to (programmed) personally.

[@EastCoastMan603]

I can’t believe you articulated this in a video the same time a lot of us are thinking this. “Economic zones need to be maintained”. F that. God Bless.

[@Dude0000]

13:06 This ‘short’ from Bald & Bankrupt’s video with the ‘sex worker’ walking along with the socialistic slogans, and multicultural icons in the background, moving past, as though on a conveyor belt, is Oscar nomination worthy. The contradictions revealed in that short clip could not have been scripted. It must have been a stroke of serendipity, possibly seeing the opportunity right before he did it, but certainly not planned before he left his hotel room that day, or anytime before that. An truly iconic work of art, and that’s without the sound, with the contrast of her reality compared to what the establishment sees as her reality set alongside each other is quite astonishing, actually.

[@DEadSpaCE211]

This is the future of the UK. They'll be entire areas with young girls working. We've already let 1000s of children get raped. Yet somehow the feminists haven't done anything about it and in fact want more diversity. I already see so many young working class girls here in the North East dress like prostitutes and there only 13.

[@Robert-yk2lk]

What the video title? I want to see

[@LilyGazou]

@@Robert-yk2lkchannel is Bald and Bankrupt

[@dannyboywhaa3146]

Moved to little village on Isle of Wight 6 months ago - we had a 6 month old baby, move had been planned couple of years prior, took a while to sell house etc etc... there was just no way we were going to raise our child/family in a city! We were in a very affluent part of one of the nicer cities as well, with excellent schools. Managed to put some dosh away as well due to difference in house prices between two areas - absolute no brainier! No regrets - people are so friendly here, never dreamed I’d have such nice neighbours! It’s such a relief, I can’t even begin to describe it!

[@cherryseptember8697]

Fantastic to hear that. I wish you much happiness and a good family life in your village. Hope things are positive for your child.

[@dannyboywhaa3146]

@@cherryseptember8697 thank you 👍

[@LilyGazou]

I hope it doesn’t get invaded. Like so many peaceful small towns in the US

[@wolfalshehri6200]

Enjoy it! You have made a tough but right decision... that kid will thank you for it

[@johndoh795]

All the good dystopias start out with the protagonist seeing everything as normal. But yeah... Been in them for a while.

[@marcanton5357]

Jews.

[@toddpacker1015]

The Matrix 😢😊😊

[@outtheredude]

I recently revisited the 1999-2001 UK television series 'Spaced'. When it first came out, It was made by people my age who wanted something out there that represented them, that were just like me in all our varied pop-culture infused colourful craziness, and it was the world of 25 year old young adult me. 25 years later, at 50, I find myself mourning the loss of everything that drove us to engage in the world and with each other. The former excitement of the prospect of younger voices joining our chorus as they too came of age, transforming our song into a bright new future we could all be a part of, throttled at birth. It's all gone, leaving nothing but a grey corporate prison world that only the elite gets to live beyond it all. The rest of us don't exist in their world, except as an inconvenience to be ultimately replaced with robots. So we have all been reduced to living as robots, to minimally serve their interests for a time as interchangeable cogs in their machine until the robots they're building are finally ready to replace us.

[@mr.whitechristmas280]

It should be also mentioned that More chose “Utopia” as a deliberate pun on “Eutopia”, which would’ve meant “Good place.” More knew that what he was envisioning was impossible.

[@scroogemcduckismyspiritanimal]

I think he knew it was more than just impossible, that it would in fact *not* be the Good Place

[@artawhirler]

We start studying Greek just so we can read a little Homer, and we wind up learning more than we really wanted to know. 😅

[@pollyparrot8759]

Impossible for humans to live in and retain their humanity ? Yes but impossible to live in if "our masters" force it upon us via draconian punishments for non-compliance? No what do you think the 15 minute city concept and the "you will own nothing and be happy" actually mean .... Utopia/Dystopia is the apparent goal of a certain super rich sector of society, for us but not for them. Davos is a worrying place for ordinary mortals.

[@UnhingedJessie]

Dystopia is just another word for hell.

[@panzer00]

Hell is a mindset, a lifestyle. The woke literally lives in a Hell of their own creation but they blame everyone else for it while actively trying to force us to live there with them. If only there was a philosophy that steered us away from that life...

[@entropybear5847]

Hell would be warmer, so in a certain way it'd be a step up.

[@Max-ep5ir]

Hopefully, Utopia will become one as well.

[@PeenieLinguine]

That is New York propaganda. New jersey isn't as bad as that dumpsterfire of a state ​@@MG-me7iw

[@ElBromoHojo]

​@@entropybear5847the deepest pit of hell is frozen actually

[@SomeGuy-hr5og]

I'm early so I'll post a cliche: Utopia, Dystopia, same thing.

[@ZombieLogic101]

One's just more comfortable for different classes of folks...

[@salsamancer]

That's the first point he makes, you didn't even watch before commenting 😆

[@SomeGuy-hr5og]

@@salsamancer Did you even read the first part of my comment? lol

[@itayshani3614]

If only it was a sensible cliche.

[@fulcrum1575]

Sargon’s take on the purpose of therapy is him describing modern communist therapists. Old school therapists were (like I’m hoping to be) very much about “you *can* change and you have to for your survival and flourishing”.

[@RolandDelacroix]

I can't even explain to my kids how great and free America was when I was their age, because they wouldn't even believe it.

[@MrPolandball]

Probably because your generation destroyed this country by keep voting for same corrupt politicians 10 times in row

[@PrebleStreetRecords]

I’m around Carl’s age, and while I don’t have as rosy a picture of the past (living in an American city in the 80s/90s), it’s still shocking. When I tell my younger friends and coworkers about my experiences as a teenager, it’s like describing a fantasy novel to them. “What do you mean you lived in a downtown apartment for $300/mo, lived fairly well off a trade skill job, and spent almost all of your free time with friends?”

[@GimbalLocksOnly]

Gonna have to burst your bubble but america wasnt free or great during your childhood either. Its been bad since before ww2. It just wasnt as obvious.

[@RexNicolaus]

@@PrebleStreetRecords My grandmother told me around the mid 50’s, making around $5,400 a year was doing well… ouch

[@Adamantios-Alian]

@@GimbalLocksOnly I has gotten much much worse. I've seen it with my own eyes across a large swathe of the country.

[@defiance514]

“humans in the 21st century inherited a vast array of advanced and advancing technologies developed in the 100 years prior. However, the powerful humans decided to apply almost all of those advances toward studying and applying methods by which they might have better and better asserted control over individuals. They built such massive structures requiring such massive amounts of energy inputs that the supply of such fuels was diminished rapidly over the course of just a few generations, leading to a total collapse of not only the attempted control mechanisms, but that of all the contemporary progress of that era.”

[@michaeldavid6832]

Scarcity is a ficiton designed by those who control plentiful resources. You think DeBeers cornered the diamond market to make diamonds seem plentiful?

[@j.c.denton2060]

We, like the Roman Empire, have not been destroyed by ourselves but by the psychopathy and greed of our ruling class. We had the opportunity to colonize space and instead we spent it on wars for is-r@el and intelligence gathering agencies.

[@lordsheogorath3377]

The Dark Age of the 2000s has already begun. We have lost so much knowledge, history, institutions, and culture that we will never get back. It will take 1000 years to recover from the last 100.

[@JaimeG88]

​@@lordsheogorath3377what? You don't want transgendered mulatto grandchildren??

[@pocztmistrzztczewa]

Sauce?

[@jiggycalzone8585]

Goebbels can only wish he had come up with such a brilliant covering up of propaganda as "fighting misinformation"

[@robbiesantos7677]

The people putting us in the dystopia are the same guys he tried to remove from his society.

[@JaimeG88]

​@@robbiesantos7677DELET THIS

[@rucker69]

@@robbiesantos7677 ffs stop it. Soo tedious.

[@idolaficionado7631]

@@rucker69 Too true for your virgin ears?

[@Nylon_riot]

The same people invented it. Do you think the Notsees sucked it out of their thumbs? It was bought off American advertising agencies.

[@OhRaez]

8:52 Being 24 years old and forming more into my "adult" self, I have realized this slowly but surely. It's a philosophy that reigns very true. Not to be altruistic or self-sacrificial, but to care for your loved ones is one of the defining parts of life.

[@flanflanjp_]

Sargon fails to ask the questions of who are the masters, and then why do they do this to us. Why do they hate us? What drives them to seek the utter destruction of our way of life and ability to lead?

[@zantas-handle]

That's the nature of evil, sadly. It seeks to destroy.

[@commisaryarreck3974]

​@@zantas-handle In every nation but their own....

[@trevorstevenson4038]

The elites are selfish. Believe they are better by blood and by culture. They now have the access to technologies that will replace the general populace. They want us all gone so they can enjoy the riches of the natural world.

[@cvangemon1307]

You know you can't mention (((them))) on youtube.

[@oneofthelastsurvivingdoges8832]

Cup of juice aye?

[@MrLolguy93]

Eastern Europe : "First time?"

[@ganymedekaramazenes9273]

China -"ditto"

[@Ahandleofrum]

Eastern Europe has been getting steadily better since the 90s.

[@fabianustertius6460]

@@Ahandleofrum nice joke

[@missk1697]

​@@AhandleofrumLmfao I wish

[@Ahandleofrum]

@salzaniclegend4129 TBH I haven't been there since early 90s. Are the store shelves still empty? I've seen some pictures from relatives who visited, seems alright.

[@snakeplisken2123]

I hate modern restrooms you have to fight robots just to get a squirt of soap and the faucet never sprays enough for both hands and it takes minutes to get enough paper towels to dry off.

[@account-now-closed]

Paper towels? Most I've seen have hand dryers

[@jessesdomain444]

​@@account-now-closedhand dryers that take a decade to dry your hands....

[@kerim.peardon5551]

@@jessesdomain444 My mother HATES dryers. She says they just suck dust up off the floor and blow it on your hands.

[@snakeplisken2123]

@@kerim.peardon5551 I’ve heard of the ghost in the machine, but that’s the Jew in the machine.

[@DCM8828]

The hand dryers are deafeningly loud as well. I just leave & let evaporation work.

[@spartan7404]

We’ve lived in a dystopia since 2008.

[@JesusFriedChrist]

2001

[@NobleBoss]

​@@JesusFriedChrist1945

[@DjDeadpig]

We truly have fallen. We lost the islands and at this rate, we may as well just expect Labour gives the Falklands to Argentina. At least Milei would care for them more after we sold away our sovereignty and our land. The sun now truly sets on the once empire now commonwealth.

[@everyonesfavoritesejong]

Sounds great yep please do it that would be awesome I'd forgive Britain for everything they did

[@john236613]

As an American, we brought it on ourselves when we allowed the crazies to have, not only a say, but a larger say than the majority. They actively fight against the best interests of our people in the hopes of destabilizing our countries and implementing their "perfect" government. A government which will inevitably be used to oppress the masses in the name of maintaining power over them. Communism/Socialism never has, and never will work.

[@josedorsaith5261]

"We" Are you English?

[@willemdalebout3725]

Just out of curiosity, what makes those islands so important to the British?

[@DjDeadpig]

Yes, Yes I am.

[@NGC-gu6dz]

The managerial class has lost their mandate from heaven.

[@mirceazaharia2094]

They never had it to begin with. They lost any Noblesse Oblige a long time ago.

[@oompalumpus699]

Then we will eventually witness a fight that can rival the casualties of the battles in Ancient China.

[@marcanton5357]

Jews.

[@goctexas1444]

They have abandoned their noble obligee

[@MuhammedMuhammed-xd7qo]

It's not that the yearning for dystopian fiction has dried up, it's that corporations have totally seized control of media, and the gatekeepers they employ at the basic level of, say, book publishers are mostly privileged women who not only willingly enforce corporate ideals but also have a natural disinclination toward themes like dystopia...unless it's filtered through a lens of sex among the privileged class, like the handmaid's tale.

[@drlca6601]

Well said.

[@nas8326]

Men masquerading as women*

[@mudra5114]

Corporations run the media but the media is Left winged Marxist. That is the irony.

[@bubstacrini8851]

the Handmaid's Tale is near a half century old and might not be published today

[@Oecobius33]

@@bubstacrini8851 Something that copies off the currently-running and widely-consumed TV series of it certainly would, since that's what most people think of when they hear the title.

[@uomodonore245]

The Greeks philosophers knew, in their wisdom, that utopia was "no place", hence the etymology of the word.

[@bananas1220]

I've been saying we're living in a nightmare dystopia for years. It really is becoming intolerable. I don't see any future for myself anymore

[@JaimeG88]

Do an internet search for "William Pierce thoughts on accepting responsibility." Hopefully this will help your depression.

[@mirceazaharia2094]

​@@JaimeG88 Brilliant suggestion. That man was a genius.

[@tow-rn2qy]

@@JaimeG88I did an internet search on him the media has branded him as a silly 1940s German person. Is he really or is he just falsely accused of being one? Cause the media is “special”

[@MrChrisRP]

Lot's of very good people have been waiting for you to wake up. And so on, down the line...

[@graperiggers]

Go outside and take a walk

[@Dayz3O6]

Anarcho-Tyranny, I remembered seeing the movie Purge and thinking the concept is absurd.

[@father042]

Sam Francis was a prophet

[@rustyshackleford1062]

I took thought it was absurd until the mostly peaceful riots happened and killed 50 people and injured 1000s, then the most violent insurrection happened and one person died and half a dozen were injured. The rioters who injured 1000s got million dollar payouts and then 1000s that were present at insurrection but didn't hurt anyone all got 3 year average jail sentences. Anarcho-tyranny is terrifyingly effective at terrorizing a populace into compliance, and I fear it's simply the new normal at this point after effectively being rolled out in the US, Canada, Brazil, UK, EU et al.

[@Armameteus]

It _is_ absurd. Unfortunately, we happen to be living in an increasingly absurd world.

[@DigitalApex]

Because it is. Loads of people have described how catastrophic it would be for society if it actually happened. It genuinely wouldn't fix anything. In fact, it'd make current things worse. Mostly economically.

[@mro2352]

The worst thing that happened was the corporate cultural shift from long term from sustainable long term growth to short term shareholder value. I’m not a communist but I hope the culture shifts but I done expect it will.

[@NOYB1776]

We are living in corporatization and communism combined. Corporations, are in perfect comparison to communism. This is not capitalism, free market, or free at all. There is no aspect of our lives that government and corporations that they want to control. They want to control, track, and spy on you continuously. We are not living in a system that persuades the masses.

[@PRH123]

True, but not a cultural shift. It was the opening of the floodgates of corruption that began under Reagan. The controls and oversight of banks, investment and business that had kept everything stable and the country prosperous for fifty years began to be dismantled. So called value based investing which led to the first tech stock crash, was a serious crime only a couple of decades earlier. There’s not going to be any culture shift as you call it, without restoring those instruments of regulation that worked in the past.

[@mro2352]

@@PRH123​​⁠I’d argue that instead the cultural shift happened in the 60s and 70s. The culture from that time was free love and hedonistic pleasure at the cost of the society. If you value only yourself as a culture what do you think will happen when they get old enough to start to get to positions of middle management. The boomers as a whole are THE most hedonistic and selfish generation to that point.

[@M_CFV]

@@PRH123 "began under reagan" yeah, no. The federal reserve, and the abolishing of the gold standard, is what caused it. Long before Reagan.

[@PRH123]

@@M_CFV the original post referred to the shift from sustainable growth, to short term shareholder value, and that was a shift that began with Reagan’s term in office, and the deregulation that his administration pushed That particular phenomenon was not related to the gold standard or the creation of the fed. It was driven by the neo laissez faire ideals that drove deregulation that began to dismantle controls on financial markets and banking (that had been in place since the 30’s), amongst other things.

[@clarenceweaver1820]

The dissolution of places outside the home where people can just exist/hang out/commune without the expectation of spending money is truly a hallmark of dystopia

[@AndrewPhillipsTech]

It's funny you showed a picture of McDonalds in Basingstoke.. I grew up there.. we used to goto it first thing in the morning on Xmas eve to get breakfast before shopping.. it was so wholesome and sweet.. I re-visited recently.. it now has security guards.. and nobody in it grew up in that town.. probably not even the country.. not one.

[@MrVibrating]

Thirty years ago working-class minimum wage jobs at least meant you'd have colleagues you could relate to, build friendships and social circles. In the decades since, it's meant being the only English person on the payroll. Company policy requires employees to only converse in English, yet that's long gone out the window; they just chatter all day in their own tongue, blaring out ethnic pop on their smartphones while dodging any work if not actively making and leaving a big mess (because there's working hard and then there's working _smart,_ right?). They have a cultural aversion to using the litter bins conveniently spaced everywhere, knowing muggins will soon be along to pick up after them. Literally half the job is just cleaning up behind them. And of course customers see - and pay the price - in the dropped standards, killing repeat business and brand loyalty. It's a terminal decline, and it's affecting businesses throughout the economy, yet question the false equivalences of cultural relativism at your peril.. From my perspective here on the shop floor, the great replacement already happened, back under New Labour..

[@FakeHeroFang]

Barely even see kids working places like this around where I live, because they have to compete for retail/fast food jobs with the flood of immigrants we're letting into the country. Downright shameful.

[@CorundumDevil]

_"I am the animal simply existing, waiting for nothing but when it finally dies."_

[@elLooto]

Most peoples lives can be summed up in two phases: Waiting For Santa Clause, and when they finally work out that Santa isn't coming, Waiting for Rigor Mortis. There is a third phase of existence, Chasing Opportunity but most people avoid it because, paraphrasing Henry Ford, it arrives wearing overalls and looks like hard work.

[@CorundumDevil]

@elLooto I can think of someone else who enjoyed paraphrasing Henry Ford. Coincidentally, they encouraged hard labor at gunpoint. EDIT: Sorry, not trying to come at you, but something about how you phrased hard work as synonymous with fulfillment of the soul came across as... extremely foreboding, and it activated my fight-or-flight response.

[@elLooto]

@@CorundumDevil Dont worry mate. Lots of people have a visceral response to the idea of hard work. ;) I didnt say "work hard for someone else" I meant "work hard for yourself, and the things that matter to you." People say "Working hard does not guarantee success," which is true, but forget to ask the opposite question "Can I expect to succeed if I work less hard?" Lets consider, as a high profile example, the aftermath of a sportsball grand final: We can look at the at the losing team, which is the example that hard work doesnt guarantee success. OTOH the most evident thing is the sheer joy of success, of achieving ones life goals, and ask yourself if these guys would have got there if they didnt train every day, and didnt do those extra effort plays under extreme fatigue during the game, didnt hold each other to a higher standard and all that stuff. Hard work isnt synonymous with fulfillment, but it is a requirement for it. The Ford quote is just an observation that many people consider the opportunity before them 'beneath them' or 'not the kind of work I want to do' or they see how much work is involved and think 'thats too hard.' This is why (I believe) most people dont want to own their own business: deep down they know that its a lot of hard work with no guarantee of a paycheck (financial safety), and they may have to do things that make them uncomfortable, like soliciting work (ie sales) or writing government compliance reports. A lot of these people also justify this to themselves by saying things like 'Im not a greedy capitalist pig' to elevate their laziness or cowardice to a position of moral superiority, often denigrating the results and effort (that they are unwilling to put in themselves) of others to 'luck'.

[@raynen8353]

@@CorundumDevilare you talking about the good guys back in WW2?

[@giantent763]

@@CorundumDevil Hard labor at gunpoint? You must be talking about the Soviets. Or the Allies after the war when they took German *SLAVES*. Oh, they didn't teach that part in middle school though.

[@TheSleepLes]

Fixation on ‘growth’ and a cult of greed brought us to this place.

[@akforge]

All by design, The Kalergi Plan. First dreamed up by the European Union founder Richard von Coudenhove-Kalergi in his 1924 book “Practical Idealism”.

[@frishter]

To be fair, you could argue that a fast food place that is designed to be inviting to children is also dystopic. But yeah, it goes beyond that.

[@FakeHeroFang]

At least being bright and inviting shows that they're trying to make it welcoming for families, however fake it may be. Now they don't even do that, their establishments look extremely cold, corporate and impersonal. They know you'll show up anyways, so they don't have to play pretend anymore.

[@rishnix]

@@FakeHeroFang More and more of them don't even have an indoor eating area. They want you to use a drive through. Just get your food and get out. Go eat your slop and be miserable somewhere else. You already paid for the food, so unless you're buying more, they don't want to see you. It is a bleak and anti-human practice.

[@kerim.peardon5551]

Back when they had play places, they probably still had fries with only 3 ingredients. Now, American fries have 17 ingredients. McDonald's food wasn't the same back then.

[@user-tm8jt2py3d]

I was mostly liberal 10 years ago. Now I'm seeing the vital benefits of a Nationalistic state with a focus on Social health.

[@Captain_Insano_nomercy]

Same here

[@masongreen1371]

Oh no…You almost said the forbidden words. 👀🤔

[@MrChrisRP]

Money is not the root of all evil. They lied to you. It's statism.

[@skurinski]

This is why China is the best

[@Xplora213]

My good OP, progressive values make more sense when they are anchored in the context of conservative tradition. If you assume British National Identity and Pride, then tweaking it a little makes sense. But abandoning that presumption makes it much harder to understand.

[@RealDevastatia]

Cities have been centers for work since the industrial revolution, when rural people moved to the city for work. Now that our industrial base has been offshored, cities are mainly centers for mindless consumption and welfare distribution.

[@qwerty-p6j]

Rural areas were the headquarters of religious household, now it's dying. That's why a huge population collapse is coming, I think the best example are countries like Turkey or and other middle eastern. Look at their growth in like WW2 - now period. It's like 500% and now it's either standing or falling due to people leaving islam and building big modern cities

[@Boskov01]

It is interesting that the term "Utopia" means "No place" which is oddly correct as "No place" can ever truly become a utopia. Utopia would require mankind not be human. It would require we act against our own nature. The only time mankind ever had a utopia was back at the Garden of Eden, but mankind messed it up despite utopia being handed to them. So a utopia cannot be created by man at all. We've seen time and again where a utopia has been attempted, but it has always failed and become dystopian before falling completely apart. If the goal of a utopia is to attempt to create the perfect society, then right away it is flawed as perfection is unattainable by the standards of man. The Seven Deadly Sins of greed, lust, gluttony, envy, sloth, anger, and pride, present in every human being, will always thwart such attempts at perfection by causing the holes and cracks of a utopia to be exploited by the corrupt, and no amount of closing such holes will help, if anything such attempts to close the holes will make the problems worse. So Utopia is just that, a fantasy. It exists in "no place." Because it is like perfection: impossible to attain or exist.

[@mirceazaharia2094]

Eudaimonia is arguably the only "Utopia" that we could conceivably achieve as humans. Look it up.

[@dereklamb4945]

I honestly feel like the internet and cell phones have to be banished completely for society to begin to heal.

[@honkhonk8009]

Yea true. Too mayn excuses to do stuff remotely, rather than in person. Its gone too far.

[@Friggsdottir]

Pandoras box

[@marken816]

I have thought about this. In a way, you are correct. But imagine how bad it can get if people don't have internet access to know and revize what actually is happening around the globe.

[@desislavchi]

@@marken816 you dont need to know whats happening around the globe, it doesnt affect you and you moslty cant do anything about it.

[@pokermitten9795]

That would be sending us back to the dark ages in a much more visceral way than the fear mongering the left does about republicans.

[@arandompasserby7940]

Regarding the point you mentioned about therapy - as someone who had therapy and it was useless, I always struggled to competently express why it was I hated it and why it was so useless. But then one day, I came across an article talking about why the people of Rwanda threw out Western therapists after the Rwandan Genocide. *"When in Rwanda, interviewing women raising children born of r*pe for another book, Solomon mentioned his experience in Senegal to a Rwandan man who ran an organisation helping these women. The Rwandan told Solomon they had similar ceremonies in his country and that the disconnect between the western and traditional approaches to treating mental health had caused problems in the immediate aftermath of the genocide. 'Westerners were optimistically hoping they could heal what had gone wrong,' says Solomon. 'But people who hadn’t been through the genocide couldn’t understand how bad it was and their attempts to reframe everything were somewhere between offensive and ludicrous. The Rwandan felt that the aid workers were intrusive and re-traumatising people by dragging them back through their stories.' "As the Rwandan, paraphrased by Solomon, puts it: 'Their practice did not involve being outside in the sun where you begin to feel better. There was no music or drumming to get your blood flowing again. There was no sense that everyone had taken the day off so that the entire community could come together to try to lift you up and bring you back to joy. Instead they would take people one at a time into these dingy little rooms and have them sit around for an hour or so and talk about bad things that had happened to them. We had to ask them to leave.' "* Those two paragraphs really opened my eyes. Thank you, unnamed Rwandan man running an organization to help women who have been subjected to something so horrible - though our worlds may be very different, I thank you for helping me make sense of what is wrong with mine.

[@stan4d1969]

As they say, America isn't a country, it's a business.

[@sniperrecon676]

An industrial society is one that puts efficiency above all else, including human happiness or even existence. Jacques Ellul was correct

[@ruuman]

That's the thing, nothing works anymore, it's the opposite of efficient, bloated government, a million forms and regulations to do anything. Everything is over budget and late or just broken. This is a full technocracy functioning on its own BS!

[@NOYB1776]

Uncle Ted was even more correct.

[@PebbleLove]

​@@NOYB1776of course the Chrsitian is anti-technology and pro-state. Live up to the expectations

[@tehguybro]

Hey Sragon. As a South African, I feel like I'm watching the Western world follow the footsteps of us Southern African colonisers.

[@orionxtc1119]

Where Europeans settled in South Africa, virtually NO humans existed...blacks from futher north colonised South Africa

[@gerhardvaneeden5615]

I'm also South African, although not currently living there. I'm not seeing your parallels...can you elaborate, please?

[@amariner5]

My Rhodians friends were ahead of the curve. They could never please the "global community"

[@tehguybro]

@@orionxtc1119 Indeed. They did try to use ancient pottery found nestled in northern provinces to back up the claim that they were settled here, but there are far more follow-up questions to be asked about the pot. Thought mind you, I did write "Southern African Colonists" to specify all the southern countries collectively.

[@tehguybro]

@@gerhardvaneeden5615 I was referring specifically to the push of Equalitarian, not egalitarian, rights within the Southern Countries which ended with the overtaking and eventual degradation within urban society and the cities. There are differences, of course, but one example of similarities are the façade of human rights overtaking quality of life for the local citizens has been an issue since Apartheid ended and the borders were flung wide open. I could discuss more, but the pretense of my point was that these outward Western colonies were a precursor to events that would eventually hit the Western world at large but 20 years later.

[@16m49x3]

There's one thing though. Japan. Japan is in many ways built around children. Walk around the parks or national monuments and you will see children with their school, or friends or parents playing. Childhood in Japan seem to be magical. However as soon as people finish high school, that all goes away. As an adult people work day and night to uphold the status quo driving themselves to suicide, depression and childlessness. We cannot have a society solely for children either. I don't know how to fix this, I somehow think cities are causing much of this.

[@kratozaku]

You can not not have cities though. The centralization of services is using economies of scale. And cities have many many advantages over countryside. Many people would hate living outside or very far of a city - so yeah the civilization and culture changed dramatically compared to old Sargon here. When he was a child - the time he venerates - there were other problems... And i bet there were other doomers like Sargon which preach Apocalypse just around the corner due to civilizational decay. It's just change... and not everything is gloom and doom.... And Sargon doesn't help. Instead of being rational and helping building a healthy worldview - he's posed to infect everyone with his misery...

[@16m49x3]

@@kratozaku That's stupid. Go to every western capital and you will find that they are all the same. They push the same politics and the same talking points. They have the same foreign people, with the same anti social problems. IThey all try to make life as difficult as possible for anyone that do not live in their pod and bike to work. It's so incredibly frustrating.

[@AlexVanderGriend]

its like that in America too. Everything is about the family school church and kids. if you have no family you are disqualified from many activities and treated as a leper imagine its all for something we all constantly lose; innocence

[@ChaunceyGardener]

In cities kids are taught to be afraid of strangers and other constant threats so they feel safe only under constant surveillance and never learn to sort out their problem themselves.

[@16m49x3]

@@AlexVanderGriend Nono, you don't understand, if you are a man in Japan it doesn't matter if you have kids. You are still at work 24/7 Most women have it better, but women are also slowly becoming workaholics

[@richardblackmore9351]

Thank you for this. I wondered why it seemed like I was going crazy. Why was I seeing things from 1984 and Brave New World? I think we are over the edge. We are entering the dystopia now.

[@Marcus-xb7le]

I used to read and watch a lot of sci-fi that falls in the dystopia category. But I have stopped because it just makes me feel like crap. Now it's pure fantasy all the way.

[@StevieZala]

Same here, I opened the DVD cupboard to get out of myself the other day, then gave up. Rollerball, Soylent Green, The Prisoner (The classic show), A Clockwork Orange are but a few examples. I sighed and shut the door again 😊

[@CharlieFoxtrot]

well now you deal with pure fantasy today even, you'll have plenty of people who decide they're magically the opposite gender (or even not one at all or even at any given time) and everything is all roses, and the corpos and glowies tell you everything is ok and you must applaud the bravery of mental illness and self-mutilation

[@beanmeupscotty]

I stopped caring for the dystopia genre once I realized that I already feel enough disgust/anger/sadness towards my own society. No need to continue seeking that out in fiction.

[@llengsuch3426]

Things must be bad if you're looking back with nostalgia on 1980s MacDonalds.

[@thegatorhator6822]

We've been in the Dystopia longer than most of us have been alive. The war was lost 60 years ago.

[@M_CFV]

Hitler was an occult luciferian who followed Helena Blavatskys work. Blavatsky literally had a magazine called Lucifer.

[@Iamfromthetimebefore]

Utopia and dystopia perhaps exist simultaneously. I see the wealthy and powerful living in a Utopia, and drones like myself living the dystopian lifestyle.

[@SouthernGothicYT]

For some time now I've considered writing a dystopian piece that mirrors our era, but a key part I want to make sure gets stressed is the slow creep/seemingly out of nowhere ways of a dystopia forming. I want the protagonist to see the world they once knew turn rotten and they aren't entirely sure why until their eyes are forced open

[@jiggycalzone8585]

Don't forget the truly staggering plurality of people under its very boot ignoring, dismissing or even championing it

[@christopherbravo1813]

I think C.S. Lewis once wrote a book like that.

[@SouthernGothicYT]

@@christopherbravo1813 and probably did it better than I ever could

[@Krysnha]

I am writting a story that angels try to not so much save but figth the best it can to make dystopa a bit better, another idea i will write sometime is how weack the dystopia are, that those burocrats rich and elite think they have all power but how weack are, as well what is happening in the UK, how little people want to figth and they replace people like cogs and not think the people they bring dont give a crap about the people they sacrifice, so is done, is over, if we are invaded by aliens we wont figth as heroes many will just give up

[@elLooto]

A book like that has already been written, although it could use a tighter edit. _Atlas Shrugged_ is about the path to dystopia.