Savage vs Bergara. Are Chassis, Precision made Rifles Good for Deer Hunting?

308 Win. vs 6.5 Creedmoor.
This is the final evaluation of my "Never hunted with" rifles, to be pre-season evaluated for the upcoming deer season. In my part of the country shots on target can be 100 yards to 500 yards.
My Savage FCP chambered in 308 Win. vs my Bergara BMP in 6.5 Creedmoor. Both are extremely accurate. The only downside is they are heavy.

[@renelopez2244]

Nicely done my man. Nicely done

[@bobcatforever3485]

Dave, Another good video. With great shooting. Thanks for sharing and take care.

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

Thanks for your comment and for watching Bobcat.

[@fredsalter1915]

Great video, good sir!! The scenery alone is worth the watch! You live on some gorgeous property!

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

Thanks for the kind words and for watching.

[@edcombs7557]

Great shooting Dave,thank for sharing

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

Thanks for watching Ed.

[@shanegibb997]

Excellent shooting Dave ... They are both very nice rifles ! Great video & take care.

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

Thanks Shane

[@brwhyon]

A disc blade for a target, are we related? LOL, Nice straight forward, no BS video, Thank You Sir !

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

Yes Disc's, but you have to double them up. Thanks for your kind words.

[@MidlifeCrisisTactical]

very cool video, thanks for posting

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

Thanks for the kind words and for watching.

[@Kion1972]

Nice shooting!

[@TexasTrained]

Nice Hat.. Shaped Perfect Too Dave. Good Video.

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

Thanks Trey, horseman's crease is good for riding and for shading the scopes ocular lens.

[@maximpestsolutions3696]

Excellent 👍. Thank you for the Video 👌. Cheers 🙏🇨🇦

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

Thanks for the kind words and for watching.

[@donbenson5292]

Ran across this. For years i have been making my Savages and a Weatherby Vanguard woid stick and a few other less expensive rifles shoot better than some high dollar ones. Own many Savages over the years. Quality has gone down some. Seems like i am tweeking more things than i used to. Getting so i am leaning towards other brands. Just went through an ejection problem on a recent 223 12FV. It amazes me how they save a penny here and there that really affects shootability and quality. That is not only in the rifles but many reloading products. Just tuned up an RCBS hand primer so it can match my original Lee hand primer. As for these feather weight rifles, i go to the gym.. lol i guess i am stuck in the B52 era, built right and still flying.. Great video!

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

Savage barrels are known for real good accuracy. But you would think they would definitely improve the bolt/action. Thanks for watching.

[@YERAFirearms]

Excellent shooting

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

Thanks Mahmoud

[@cousinfuzzy4544]

Good shooting there cowboy

[@chrisp.5272]

Love my Savage 110FCP in .338 Lapua. I added a cheek raiser, and prefer the traditional stock for outdoor/hunting use. Have a Bergara HMR which is a great blend of traditional but match/target capable. I also have a AIC Stock for that I can swap, I love both rifles. Used to have a Barrett M99A1 but really prefer the .300 Magnum to .50BMG for a variety of reasons. 🤙🏼

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

Immpressive set of rifles and calibers you have. Thanks for commenting.

[@ronws2007]

I went back to the Oryx chassis. I solved the problems. With the adjustable cheek, don't use thumb screws, use set screws, they will hold. Goda Grip pad on the cheek piece for comfort and recoil. Don't use P Mag. use the MDT proprietary AICS mag with the narrow feed lips.

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

Thanks for your comments and Thanks for watching.

[@MattWaller04]

Good shooting!

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

Thanks for watching and commenting.

[@artillerybuff2000]

I had to give you a thumbs up to change your 666 to 667. Can't have the mark of the beast on your channel, right? BTW, you should like your scopes mounted super high! I mount mine as low as they can go for better shoulder placement and cheek weld. I have that same Beraga rifle with a Sig Sauer Tango6 5-35x56 scope mounted on a 20 MOA rail, a Geissele Super 700 Trigger System, and an APA muzzle brake. Thanks for the video~

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

Thanks for the like and for watching. High scope mounts are my personal preference for chassis style systems and AR's. All my traditional hunting rifles have a medium height.

[@Bones6987]

What scopes are you running Can’t make out the name on them Great shooting also !!!!!

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

Thanks for your question. 1. Monstrum Tactical 6-24x50 FFP. 2. Ohhunt Thin Edge 6-24x50 FFP.

[@ronws2007]

Completely agree with all of this. Precision rifles can be heavy. Some people choose chassis systems because you can add weight. F class is heavy. It's okay when wheeling the case from your vehicle to your shooting lane before you get to lay prone. But if you are hiking a mile on non-manicured public hunting land, it makes a difference. Especially on back country elk or moose hunts. I go back and forth with the weight thing. I like chassis systems. I have my Mossberg Patriot .308 in an MDT LSS Gen 2 with folding stock adapter and SCS stock. It is a bit heavier than the original plastic stock and the original thin recoil pad. It is more comfortable and accurate to shoot now, but it weighs more. And I put on big FFP optics, as well. My Mossberg MVP has a heavy wood stock and a medium bull barrel. I have hunted with it and it is a little heavy. This last season, I hunted with my TC Compass II .308. It is lightest. The original plastic stock is good and I changed the already decent recoil pad to a Falcon Strike hydraulic pad. And I screwed on a muzzle brake. As for cheek, I got some Goda Grip pads. Then I added some craft foam and vet tape (amazon) to get the cheek rise. Averaging 1/2 MOA. But I was chasing MOA and I like chassis. So, I got an Oryx chassis for it. Finally got to shoot it and had problems. The adjustable cheek rise would sink. And major feed problems with the AICS mag. That was frustrating. And the gun was a little heavier. I don't want to have to do anything special in the woods or be afraid of getting a round into battery. So, I put it back in the factory plastic stock, which is sturdy enough and has metal pillars for bedding and put my Venom back on (I tried another scope that had rings that would slip because they are held with small allen screws that loosen by themselves.) Got it working like I had it.

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

Thanks for your experiences and for watching.

[@kangwankhottawong8586]

Oryx vs LSS gen II What is better? For speed shooting match (Shoot and move)

[@ronws2007]

@@kangwankhottawong8586 Just going off the weight, not price, the Oryx might be a little lighter. Again, I had problems with the cheek rise. And you might have to try different magazines that work with your action. My TC Compass II in .308 works fine with the 5 round rotary magazine. One of the things I did is when I was sitting and watching videos, I would practice loading that magazine until I could it without looking. So, maybe a PMAG or another ACIS with a smaller distance that does not allow the round to just jump out when you smack the magazine into place. And there has to hopefully be some kind of solution to make the cheek riser stay where you set it. So, for functionality, I would pick the MDT. It costs more but it functions very well. Cry once, buy once. The only reason I did not get an MDT for my Compass II is because they do not make one that has the action screw guides at the same distance of 7.05 inches (Winchester short action, even though the rifle actually has a Mauser style action.)

[@PUcmw11]

What do you think about options like the new Bergara Mg Lite? Chassis, but magnesium so the bare rifle is just 6.7lbs with their new carbon barrel. I am still trying to figure out if I do something like that...or stick to more of a traditional stock with something like the Bergara Premium Divide. All insights welcome!

[@ronws2007]

@@PUcmw11 I like both of those and I happen to like chassis. Update on the TC Compass II - I put it back in the Oryx. I figured out the solution to the cheek riser staying put. Don't use the thumb wheels. Stick with the original allen-headed set screws, those hold tight. Pick a spot and stick with it. I like the MG Lite, supremely adaptable. You could make it an F Class or some kind of PRS by adding weight to it. Both it and the Divide have the same barrel and action. The Divide is a fixed stock but also not as cold or hot to the touch because of the stock. Adjustable cheek rise is good. Slightly heavier than the MG Lite, it may be also more comfortable to shoot. More weight usually softens recoil impulse. Gavintoobe's version in the 6.5 CM is a bit moot because that is a soft recoil round, anyway. When you get up to 7 PRC and .300 WM, you are dealing with some recoil that will get your attention. The advantage of the MG Lite is the folding stock. Smaller to stow and not catch on things. Currently imprisoned YT'er Matt Hoover (CRS Firearms) would hunt with a SCAR heavy. He could fold the stock, sling around his back, and then drag his deer out of the woods. So, personal choice. Heavier with a better and more adjustable fit? Lighter with a fixed stock?

[@PracticalAccuracy]

What a good problem. So many rifles, too little time. lol Nice Shooting.

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

Yes Sir! Thanks for watching.

[@ronniehallmark1278]

Good shooting. What kind of scopes you running?

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

I am a fan of "Ohhunt optics". Yes they are made in China, but on their higher end FFP scopes the glass is made in Germany. The scope on the 308. is a Monstrum Tactical G-2 FFP.

[@jcnikoley]

My Bergara B14 BMP is way too heavy for me to want to carry it around hunting. I have a hunter stock, a lot lighter, but still a bit heavy. I’d much rather go hunting with my AR in 6mm ARC. It’s a lot lighter, and plenty enough gun for anything in Texas. The deer here are like chubby Chihuahuas.

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

Yes Sir, they are heavy, but my standard magnum rifles are just a pound or two lighter. My horses or 4 wheeler can't much tell the difference. HaHa! Thanks for your comment and for watching.

[@LPM84.]

I have a B14 BMP and the H.M.R. given the HMR is just a little over 2lbs lighter than it's full precision aluminum chassis brother, after packing it and the rest of your equipment for miles through the woods, that 2lb difference for me is a big deal. Less fatigue for me makes for better hunting.

[@Michael300winmag]

or get a 45-70 trapper

[@jimjones9239]

4:24 he actually hit about an inch below center (the 2 inches above center hit was already there). 5:12 is about 2 inches about center, he is only 100 yards away, you can hit Sub MOA with just about any rifle, you don't need a precision rifle.

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

Metal target is 504 yards exactly from the bench.

[@rabideari6815]

Hello dear,i bought same Bergara but i don't know what scope to buy. Can you tell me the same model or something same like this model? Im waiting to replay the coment.

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

The scope on this Bergara is a mid tier level priced "OHHUNT 6-24x50 FFP"

[@rabideari6815]

@@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009thnx 👍

[@joelembcke8879]

it's like shooting with my grandpa.

[@cavscout62]

Sure, if you’re hunting from one of those Richie Rich Palatial “Deer Stands”.🤮

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

Never seen one of those in Idaho.

[@jfk19780]

i shoot both of these calibers and one thing i noticed is the 308 drifts way more in the wind than the 6.5 . especially at long range !!

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

Thanks for watching and for your comment. For deer hunting at max distance for me @500 yds. wind drift is 1-3 inches between the 308 150gn. and the 6.5 140gn. But for target shooters at distances longer than 500yds you are correct the 6.5 is superior.

[@Swearengen1980]

This is why I haven't moved on from my .270. It gets ignored as an old timers, outdated cartridge, yet outperforms either of those in under 600 yard hunting distances. But once you go further, 6.5 kills them with it's lack of drop and drift. The only reason I'm even contemplating adding a .308 or 6.5 is because .270 ammo has fewer options and doesn't get the attention from manufacturer's that the 6.5 is getting. But let's be real....how many of us can fully utilize (and wants to pay for the scope) to snipe someone at 1,000 yards? Not many lol.

[@davestrohmeyer-saddleupsho8009]

@@Swearengen1980 .270 Win. is still a great cartridge.