2024 Nissan Rogue | Great, But Some Red Flags

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savagegeese

savagegeese

Күн бұрын

We discuss the updated 2024 Nissan Rogue, which has better styling and improved infotainment. It's almost shocking how good this segment has gotten.
Others to consider are the Honda CRV, Hyundai Tucson, Toyota RAV4, Ford Escape, and Chevy Blazer.
#cars #technology #business
Index:
00:00 Interior Exterior
2:15 Mechanical Impressions
4:51 Driving Impressions
12:48 Final Thoughts

Пікірлер: 714
@LLG47
@LLG47 Ай бұрын
This is my dream car. I finally saved up my $500 dollar down payment (yay!), and Armando said I can pick up my new Rogue with hubby on Tuesday! ("Only the best for Boo!") Armando was so nice he got us the best APR possible at 13%!?! I can't believe I'll be a proud full-owner in 2031! #Blessed #Momstatus #barfbag
@badass6300
@badass6300 Ай бұрын
Why not get used and not get a loan to buy a car?
@will5150
@will5150 Ай бұрын
lol.
@smokesgtp
@smokesgtp Ай бұрын
There'd never be a down payment, but good try LOL
@anAmishGuy
@anAmishGuy Ай бұрын
@@badass6300 Whoosh.
@calebwany8422
@calebwany8422 Ай бұрын
@@badass6300 the money go where i go
@jeffsjalops
@jeffsjalops Ай бұрын
With the demise of the Altima, I can’t wait to watch this fly by me on the freeway sporting a paper tag and spare tire for years to come.
@jamesday7344
@jamesday7344 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the laugh
@johnnybravo5044
@johnnybravo5044 Ай бұрын
Altima discontinued.
@faheemabbas3965
@faheemabbas3965 Ай бұрын
Nissan out of business for being hopelessly incompetent for not ditching the CVT.
@delua6
@delua6 Ай бұрын
@@johnnybravo5044 can you read?
@billiam247
@billiam247 Ай бұрын
It's not a spare tire if it's being used permanently!
@danielhart2012
@danielhart2012 Ай бұрын
I've watched a lot of savagegeese videos but I think this may be the first time I've seen you guys address specific reliability concerns with a vehicle. Given how thorough you are on the design/engineering, I would love to see you guys do more coverage on recalls because you all have a way of explaining things that make it super simple to understand. Keep up the great work!
@RandyOrtonsfather
@RandyOrtonsfather Ай бұрын
One of the only car channels that I'll watch a video about a car that I don't like and have never thought about getting one
@alexandreashardt1463
@alexandreashardt1463 Ай бұрын
That's right. I do not even live in North America to acess one of those vehicles but enjoy watching 😂
@colin-nekritz
@colin-nekritz Ай бұрын
Loved that the Murano convertible made a guest appearance
@dielaughing73
@dielaughing73 Ай бұрын
It's going to feature in all their videos from now on
@cbotten106
@cbotten106 Ай бұрын
@@dielaughing73 Gotta give some screen time to the SuperStar!
@dark6c159
@dark6c159 Ай бұрын
Friend has a 2020 Hyundai Sonata that caught on fire while her mechanic was driving it after a maintenance schedule.
@Nocloudedminds
@Nocloudedminds 27 күн бұрын
put together in Tennessee so for that reason IM OUT!!!!!!!!! 30 plus thousand LOLOLOL
@JohnZornAscended
@JohnZornAscended 23 күн бұрын
@@NocloudedmindsExactly
@briansmithwins
@briansmithwins Ай бұрын
the other advantage of having multiple Altimas parked in your yard, besides lower taxes, is then you have a ready supply of spare engines and transmissions
@jasoncaine2600
@jasoncaine2600 Ай бұрын
Try maintaining your vehicle 🤷‍♂️
@jacobrzeszewski6527
@jacobrzeszewski6527 Ай бұрын
​@jasoncaine2600 There are some vehicles that can't be saved by maintenence. The 1.0 Ecoboost and Powershift come to mind. Same thing with modern Nissans and CVTs.
@Affalterbach1967
@Affalterbach1967 Ай бұрын
Saw off the roof, install tube frame-FIA cage, add Nismo Stillen Infinity parts, call it a Murano GT-R. ProjectCar
@ThisGuyRides
@ThisGuyRides Ай бұрын
Or just buy an old Murano CrossCabriolet and skip step #1
@TK-_-421
@TK-_-421 Ай бұрын
Rouge roadster spec rallycross would be hillarious to watch
@sebastianheine378
@sebastianheine378 Ай бұрын
Carlos loves this idea
@seanmoran6544
@seanmoran6544 Ай бұрын
I bought this same vehicle in the same trim, just a different color. Here's a normal boring car person review who doesn't drive fast or drive a lot of cars. I'm comparing this to a 2012 Nissan Altima that I drove for 10 years. Right when I test drove it, I knew I wanted it. To me, it drove like like a 70K Audi. Just so incredibly solid and premium feeling. Also, the inside was like an expensive SUV as well. Again, this compared to a 2012 Nissan. I've never floored my Rogue and rarely go above 50 cause I drive in a city. If you're just going from light to light, it's super peppy. I love cars you don't have to mash the gas to get somewhere. You just touch the gas and it goes. So, I don't notice the CVT cause I don't drive spirited enough to notice. Feels like a normal auto to me. Cause yes, When you floor these cars, they sound like dog shit. So, this review is for the normal boring city drivers who drive slow, play music, and want a premium quiet SUV. I love this SUV
@MelindaAt1AM
@MelindaAt1AM 26 күн бұрын
Thank you, literally just need an avg consumer review
@2ShayTbaby
@2ShayTbaby 16 күн бұрын
I just bought one too! I love it!!!
@hotmomma1552
@hotmomma1552 9 күн бұрын
I love my Rogue too🥰
@povertyspec9651
@povertyspec9651 Ай бұрын
The Rogue has more aluminum in the suspension than a Mustang
@kallekas8551
@kallekas8551 Ай бұрын
You mean ALUMINIUM?
@pinkisforpimps
@pinkisforpimps Ай бұрын
To prevent rust
@ivanjovanovic362
@ivanjovanovic362 Ай бұрын
LOL true
@Champy019
@Champy019 Ай бұрын
​@@kallekas8551hahaha. I remember Matt Rife
@will5150
@will5150 Ай бұрын
@@kallekas8551 okay Sarah-N-Tuned
@will5150
@will5150 Ай бұрын
Nice of Jack to pick up Geese after his cataract surgery. Next stop is a diner for some egg whites and melon with cottage cheese.
@dougrobinson8602
@dougrobinson8602 Ай бұрын
Nope. Next stop is Arby's for a Beef N Cheddah.
@PianoBlackTrimRep.
@PianoBlackTrimRep. Ай бұрын
Next stop after that is an early dinner at 4pm (meatloaf and mashed potatoes) at Sign of the Beefcarver.
@johnnybravo5044
@johnnybravo5044 Ай бұрын
Grandpa needs to be happy.
@danielsmith7023
@danielsmith7023 Ай бұрын
First thing I thought of was my grandmother. And she's been gone for 25 years.
@ethinos2719
@ethinos2719 Ай бұрын
@@dougrobinson8602 Arby's brought back the potato cakes for a limited time. He's definitely hitting up Arby's.
@kevn23
@kevn23 Ай бұрын
Am in the market for one of these mid size SUVs and you guys nailed it when you said RELIABILITY is by far the #1 priority. One cannot deal with down times in the shop or worse yet leave you stranded on the side of the road. This has to work 24/7 being a family car!
@jrfish007
@jrfish007 Ай бұрын
I just rented one of these last week, honestly didn’t even notice it was only a 3 cylinder. Seemed very usable to interior and I was impressed with that aspect
@TheAngryDuckman
@TheAngryDuckman Ай бұрын
Rented a couple and I came away impressed with power, usability, and mileage.
@zarbon700
@zarbon700 Ай бұрын
Great until it has higher mileage. Small engines with turbos results in short lifespan. Nissan CVTs average lifespan is around 80K.
@DB-sd3cw
@DB-sd3cw Ай бұрын
​@zarbon700 still have yet to see proof of small turbo engines going bad soon. Hondas 1.5 turbo easily reaches 200k miles with little to no issues.
@TheAngryDuckman
@TheAngryDuckman Ай бұрын
@@zarbon700 old myth
@slowspecv69
@slowspecv69 Ай бұрын
@@zarbon700average lifespan probably including the really early ones which blew up off the lot. Nowadays people aren’t blowing these transmissions up left right and center. All cvt are inherently weak, but Nissans really isn’t any worse then the rest nowadays.
@yanboa
@yanboa Ай бұрын
Guys, all joking aside, I had one as a rental (of course!) a couple months ago, and I was frankly very impressed. Especially with the hybrid powertrain (which I can't understand why it's not available in North America?!) I can see why this is popular. It's incredibly better than the previous gen, and better than quite a few of its competitors (globally). It's not bad at all.
@dawsongranger4940
@dawsongranger4940 Ай бұрын
It’s baffling why Nissan hasn’t brought all of its hybrid power trains to North America when from what I’ve heard they’re very good hybrid systems. Maybe they’re waiting for the next generation of cars?
@yanboa
@yanboa Ай бұрын
@@dawsongranger4940 really baffling!! Maybe they can’t keep up with demand and are focusing on where it’s more heavily mandated? (I’m in the UK).
@BoopSnoot
@BoopSnoot Ай бұрын
Price and economy. The hybrid takes the 1.5T but uses it as a generator only, powering the wheels only electrically. That means that its actually slightly less efficient pure highway, while adding quite a bit to the MSRP. It does have an EV like feel to it though.
@LouAntonioGiordano
@LouAntonioGiordano Ай бұрын
My previous co-worker, who was fired at an union job because he couldn’t stop showing up to work high, bought one back in 2021 and immediately sold the wheels for money and got some crappy used steel wheels and tires. Dude parted out his own brand new car haha.
@bandwagon240
@bandwagon240 Ай бұрын
That's such a Nissan thing to do.
@calebwany8422
@calebwany8422 Ай бұрын
Big Altima Energy right there
@jacobrzeszewski6527
@jacobrzeszewski6527 Ай бұрын
Sells the stock exhaust to build a custom Autozone exhaust.
@XantoS771
@XantoS771 Ай бұрын
That Altima lifestyle is not for the faint-hearted
@BurnsRubber
@BurnsRubber Ай бұрын
Parts out his new car to buy more weed. 😆
@ZZZZ-mkv
@ZZZZ-mkv Ай бұрын
Nissan's interior designs have be fantastic lately. I just wish they'd stop making unreliable drive trains.
@rmp5s
@rmp5s Ай бұрын
They definitely took a leap with the variable compression thing, which I actually appreciate...but the damn CVT...they've GOT to either make them less annoying and stop telling people you never need to change the fluid, or just stop using them.
@flurpoid
@flurpoid Ай бұрын
Using that 9-speed auto they've got in the Pathfinder would be a step in the right direction. Nissan has some great motors on deck, but it's hard to ignore the trash transmissions they settle on.
@rmp5s
@rmp5s Ай бұрын
@@flurpoid Absolutely. And, it isn't even that their CVTs are all that inherently unreliable...the problems are that they're annoying and they tell buyers that they never have to change the fluid in them. You ABSOLUTELY do!! (If you don't want them to blow up, at least...)
@will5150
@will5150 Ай бұрын
@@flurpoid not even the 9 use the 7.
@tails300
@tails300 Ай бұрын
@@rmp5sI’ve seen reports that the Variable Compression engines fail early on. I have no faith in them for long term reliability.
@ForgotToMentionThat
@ForgotToMentionThat Ай бұрын
I rented this car from MCI to Columbia-a two hour drive. I found it to be quiet, comfortable and sufficiently powerful. Totally forgot it was a 3 cylinder engine through it all.
@ofcbob6391
@ofcbob6391 Ай бұрын
There's no doubt that as a new car, it is really nice. It's just that "down the road" years from now, how is the engine holding up, especially after 60K miles when the warranty is up and all visits to the shop come out of your pocket. Nobody knows because this engine has only been out since the 2022 model.
@theburiedlife
@theburiedlife Ай бұрын
Coincidentally, I also rented a Rogue from MCI recently and was pleasantly surprised. Longevity, however, is the million dollar question.
@ForgotToMentionThat
@ForgotToMentionThat Ай бұрын
@@theburiedlife was it a red one y any chance?
@theburiedlife
@theburiedlife Ай бұрын
@@ForgotToMentionThat Nope, my rental was silver.
@Jimster481
@Jimster481 Ай бұрын
I think that's the question with any of these new cars considering that the Tacoma and Tundra have had failures and in the last decade the Lexus front wheel drive hybrids have failed the Prius has failed the Corollas and canaries have had engine failures. Honda is in the same boat with multiple gears and products that have both engine and transmission failures, so it's not exactly like any of the newer cars have been very reliable. But all of a sudden, if there's the question of reliability on Nissan, well everybody should just avoid the car immediately.
@fadedlogic1
@fadedlogic1 Ай бұрын
The "Altima Strategy" is brilliant!! I will make sure to place worn temp tags for maximum impact!
@scott8238
@scott8238 Ай бұрын
My Wife has 2021 Rogue with 40k miles it's great car for around town and actually pulls decent in the mountains on road trips. Her last rouge was a 2014 with 150k miles on it with no issues but we are religious about the maintenance. A lot of ppl hate on these cars but they are actually really nice for the price point.
@SuzukiKid400
@SuzukiKid400 Ай бұрын
These are appliances, so nobody cares.
@ofcbob6391
@ofcbob6391 Ай бұрын
Your 2021 is a different engine than the 2022 to current. You have a regular "normally aspirated" 4 cylinder, what they are talking about in this video is the VC turbo 3-cylinder. I've had the 22 with VC engine for over 2 years and the engine has been perfect, doesn't burn a drop of oil. No one knows what the future holds for this VC engine at say, 100K miles.
@tony2tooth661
@tony2tooth661 Ай бұрын
​​@@ofcbob63912022 they put the 3 cylinder engine is it better than the 2021 if you drove it?
@BoopSnoot
@BoopSnoot Ай бұрын
2021 is the four banger though and the last generation CVT that doesn't have as low a range. Personally, I prefer the new turbo engine and CVT-X, it generally cruises more quietly and at lower revs, fuel economy is about the same.
@scott8238
@scott8238 Ай бұрын
@@BoopSnoot correct I was nervous to buy the 3 turbo but im glad it's working out for you.
@Catuyn17
@Catuyn17 Ай бұрын
I wanted to buy the used slk55 at the local Dodge dealer, but my wife's boyfriend wanted it for himself. so, she told me to buy one of these to take their kids to soccer practice while they go on weekend drives to the new local brewery on the lake. I haven't quite given up on life yet, but I'm getting close so the Rouge is a good fit.
@brandon_buildsDIY
@brandon_buildsDIY Ай бұрын
Wife’s boyfriend? Brother you down bad😂
@cbotten106
@cbotten106 Ай бұрын
The vehicle of choice in the apathetic suburbs.
@biz0r07
@biz0r07 Ай бұрын
5000 months @ 99% 😳😂
@jacobrzeszewski6527
@jacobrzeszewski6527 Ай бұрын
Insurance rate of $500 per month.
@mrreality9977
@mrreality9977 Ай бұрын
Talltima energy
@oliverroo59
@oliverroo59 Ай бұрын
Mark wearing those 180 degree granny sun blockers 😂😂
@jedclampett7705
@jedclampett7705 Ай бұрын
Those goggles make the ride…in the passenger seat! 😂
@ericheick7044
@ericheick7044 Ай бұрын
As yes, the Nissan Mall-tima
@BCJDM
@BCJDM Ай бұрын
We get it, you watch tiktoks
@thacarter497
@thacarter497 Ай бұрын
​@BCJDM u must drive a Nissan Haul-Tima
@ericheick7044
@ericheick7044 Ай бұрын
@@BCJDM never been on tik tok in my life
@yukhzia
@yukhzia Ай бұрын
@@ericheick7044you must drive a Nissan InstallHVAC-tima
@JonathanPARADIS-nb5bw
@JonathanPARADIS-nb5bw Ай бұрын
Tall-tima
@chriss526
@chriss526 Ай бұрын
My spouse is leasing one of these currently. It’s super comfortable and for just general driving around, it’s great…peppy off the line and the driving dynamics are not horrible (for a cvt). Reason we got it?….the price. Compared to a CRV or Mazda, there’s so much value here in terms of cost-vs-options and the build quality seems good. There’s really no wonder why they sell so many of these.
@sebastianheine378
@sebastianheine378 Ай бұрын
It seems like the only car Nissan gives a shit about in its line-up
@tocreatee3585
@tocreatee3585 Ай бұрын
Hyundai has little bit cheaper option. but I would not touch Hyundai cars after i witnessed Hyundai catching fire on highway. hyundai 💩💩💩💩💩
@robbamford4134
@robbamford4134 Ай бұрын
Part of why I like the cx50 more. Mazda used the 2.5 turbo without new fangled wizardry or complex hybridization. They’ve used the drivetrain in everything, a torque converted automatic, suspension that is relatively simple. No surprises. NVH and a few things may not be best in class, but seems reliable and affordable to maintain for a long time.
@scurfie2343
@scurfie2343 Ай бұрын
Turbo that doesn't need premium gas too.
@manuelolvera8706
@manuelolvera8706 Ай бұрын
Same even my cx5 FEELS more expensive than it is and non turbo options with regular 6speed.
@dammyo6010
@dammyo6010 Ай бұрын
Had one of these for a rental on a family trip a few months ago. I was shocked at how much I liked it. The interior did not feel like a penalty box at all, it was well equipped, the panoramic sunroof made the cabin feel airy, and while the three cylinder turbo was pretty gutless up top, it had pretty good punch down low. Other than some infuriating infotainment stuff (artist alerts that turn the screen on even though I turned it off during night driving), I can say I really enjoyed my time with it. Would I buy one personally? Absolutely not! But overall, it's impressive for what it is.
@BoopSnoot
@BoopSnoot Ай бұрын
I don't feel it has good punch down low either, but midrange is where its at. Luckily, if you don't floor it, the CVT gets it in the right range quickly after its "learning" period of how you drive, and makes maneuvers quite effortless. Had one for 15.5K miles so far, no problems... YET! *knocks on wood*
@parker4551
@parker4551 Ай бұрын
Bought a plat 2023 for my daughter last year. Very very nice for the money. Great design and feels quality. Bought extended warranty and dealership promo is lifetime drive train
@vstan9023
@vstan9023 Ай бұрын
Mark drinking (I’m Assuming coffee) with such a grace and wearing those marvelous sunglasses, makes me want to buy a Rogue just to be as superfly as him
@stevend3753
@stevend3753 Ай бұрын
I think the reliability of the motor has been blown out of proportion. Keep in mind the Honda 1.5L had a class action lawsuit on it. Toyota has major issues with the new engine in the Tundra. Every manufacturer has its issues.
@tails300
@tails300 Ай бұрын
They still made a valid point though, they over complicated a way to make internal combustion engines more efficient. Instead taking a NA Atkinson cycle 4 cylinder and hybridizing it they came up with this crap. They already have a reliable HEV architecture overseas they could’ve used (e-Power) but they decided again that this POS drivetrain was the better option.
@NoodlesExtraMSG
@NoodlesExtraMSG Ай бұрын
true but I think they are taking into account the VC 2.0 in infinti products since 2019+ Sure they made changes and improvements but reputations precedes itself.
@IsitReallyrealreally
@IsitReallyrealreally Ай бұрын
But! At one point; they didn’t so
@_IMNNO
@_IMNNO Ай бұрын
Watch the teardown of this VC engine on I Do Cars. It literally has more oiling surfaces than a V8. With the added complexity it would been simpler/cheaper/better to make a 1.5L 4 cylinder with no VC.
@stanmarcusgtv
@stanmarcusgtv Ай бұрын
Nissan is notorious considered by far the worst Japanese and worse than the Korean commerce
@upshifter5316
@upshifter5316 Ай бұрын
Can we just thank Nissan for using more of the color palette on their interiors than just black?! Bravo Nissan!! 👏
@GeorgeGeo
@GeorgeGeo Ай бұрын
Nissan needs to come back!.. hopefully this year is the start of that
@faheemabbas3965
@faheemabbas3965 Ай бұрын
By ditching the CVT. Pray that the next Murano doesn’t have one.
@whosdondada
@whosdondada Ай бұрын
Rumor is a 9 speed ​@@faheemabbas3965
@omnimoeish
@omnimoeish Ай бұрын
The 2025 Infiniti QX80 is a nice start for their luxury line. I'm very tempted.
@carforcoin1161
@carforcoin1161 Ай бұрын
Could we please get bigger sunglasses with each episode?❤
@yellowrattle2428
@yellowrattle2428 10 күн бұрын
😂
@ambassadorofconciliation
@ambassadorofconciliation Ай бұрын
You guys nailed it. Hey Nissan, if you had used a large, naturally aspirated 4 cylinder with a conventional automatic transmission, we would have purchased a rogue last year instead of the rav4. I honestly like the rogue better, but the fancy pants itty bitty engine turned me off.
@Ethan7s
@Ethan7s Ай бұрын
Nissan is sure the CVT is fixed this time. Pinky promise.
@dougrobinson8602
@dougrobinson8602 Ай бұрын
SG needs to get their hands on the new Versa which can be ordered (you'll never find one on a lot) with a manual transmission and a port injected engine. That pretty much eliminates the reliability question mark.
@aprtur
@aprtur Ай бұрын
​@@drumpf2024campayn people bitch incessantly that those kinds of cars aren't available anymore, so maybe that's a positive rather than a negative...I don't know. Have driven some 5 speed Versas, and they're exactly what they say on the tin - cheap, honest transportation.
@jonwear9791
@jonwear9791 5 күн бұрын
I own a 2023 Nissan Rogue with 22,000 miles. No complaints here; it has great gas mileage and good power. 👍
@temperedsand093
@temperedsand093 Ай бұрын
This 3 cycliner engine is actually a great piece of engineering work.
@mikiyoshiura8185
@mikiyoshiura8185 Ай бұрын
I love my 21 Rogue SL with 2.5 4 cylinder engine. No mechanical issues at 50,000 miles. I wish Nissan offers 2.5 4 as an option addition to the current system in the future. For now I am keeping mine.
@TheRealJeffSmith
@TheRealJeffSmith Ай бұрын
The tax assessor comment killed me. As a fellow Illinois resident, I feel that pain.
@CheezeCracker
@CheezeCracker Ай бұрын
Oakland doesn't know what to do with the dozens of abandoned, stripped, crashed Altimas. Let's all pitch in, send em all over the country to wealthy neighborhoods. We'll fix the housing market!!
@sjm3430
@sjm3430 Ай бұрын
I rented one of these for 8 days and without a doubt this is the best vehicle I have ever driven. Super comfortable, spacious, great electronics, great power and super easy on gas!
@ronkemperful
@ronkemperful Ай бұрын
As to comparisons you left out one sensible product, the Subaru Forester. It may not be as powerful as some SUVs but it has better outward visibility, decent fuel economy, a comfortable ride, lower center of gravity with the boxer engine, and an all wheel drive system that works full time on all wheels rather than only react to slipping wheels. And, after a two different Nissan cars with horrendous reliability, I shudder at owning another Nissan.
@OldRustySteele
@OldRustySteele Ай бұрын
But the Forester has a JATCO CVT, right? Same crappy CVT as Nissan’s. At least Subaru used that transmission for a long time. Please someone correct me if they’ve switched recently. Good friend had a Forester (around 2015 model or similar time frame). The JATCO CVT was shot by 58,000 miles and he drives like a grandma.
@faheemabbas3965
@faheemabbas3965 Ай бұрын
@@OldRustySteeleSubaru doesn’t use JATCO CVT. They use Aisin.
@ronkemperful
@ronkemperful Ай бұрын
@@OldRustySteele Not correct. Subaru has never had a JATCO CVT but uses CVTs of its in-house design. Subaru has been using CVTs since 1989 with its Justy model. Subaru hasn't had reliability issues with its CVTs like Nissan, but I agree that a traditional automatics or an E-CVT which has no drive belts to fail as found in a Prius, are much better options.
@OldRustySteele
@OldRustySteele Ай бұрын
@@ronkemperful Ron, thanks for correcting me. To Faheem & Ron, here’s what I’ve found: 1) Aisin has never supplied CVT’s to Subaru. (Generally Aisin supplies Toyota). 2) Subaru has predominantly built their own CVT’s, and definitely have for the last several years. 3) References are sketchy on whether Subaru ever got CVT’s from JATCO in the early 2005-2015 timeframe. Some claim yes, but I can’t really tell if those are corroborated. 4) My friend with the cratered Forester CVT said that the dealer said it was a JATCO. But I think a lot of dealers and their mechanics are sometimes guilty of ignorance. Anyway, it looks certain that Subaru has built their own CVT’s for a while now. Also, they seem to have become more reliable since the 2015-ish timeframe. On a semi-related note: I owned a 2013 Maxima for 11 years before recently selling it. Never had a problem with its JATCO CVT, but I was diligent and changed fluid at 40K miles and 75K miles. It had 76K miles when I sold it. I changed the fluid just before selling it, because I sold it to a coworker and wanted to ensure it was in top shape. Cheers, Old Rusty
@DavidD073
@DavidD073 Ай бұрын
I test drove a 2023 Platinum last Fall and was very impressed. The updates on the 2024 are impressive enough, but you both articulated the problem perfectly - too much anxiety over reliability means a hard pass, sadly. I will continue to drive my 2010 RAV4 (with 290K kms and counting) because nothing out there is "wow-ing" me enough to retire her.
@miker.8282
@miker.8282 Ай бұрын
The thing with the CVT in a Nissan is that you change that transmission fluid at least every 30 to maximum 60k miles. Nissan never tells you not to change it. The manuals only say to inspect but the mechanics will tell you to change it out. I've had 4 Nissans since 2011 and have ran up the odometer as much as 167k on a Maxima and 112k on an Altima and have had zero transmission issues. I think most(not all) of the people that get those issues are ones that are lazy and take the car for granted and don't do anything and wonder why their car breaks down.
@Aki_Lesbrinco
@Aki_Lesbrinco Ай бұрын
Well my wife had a 2011 Rogue. I had the CVT oil changed at 15k miles and the transmission crapped the bed at 30k miles. Got it replaced under warranty. After around 12k miles, the replacement started making pretty loud noises and had to get it replaced under warranty again. She drove it for a while but we decided that the stress of not knowing if it would die on us again was not worth it and sold it. She got a Toyota and zero issues after many years and miles.
@BurnsRubber
@BurnsRubber Ай бұрын
Jack: You’re also underselling the handling. It drives exceptionally well for what it is. I’ve logged thousands of miles in Rogue rentals across Washington, Colorado and Arizona. Spent hours tossing it around mountain roads. It is exceptionally well mannered at limit and a lot of fun to boot. I would compare the driving dynamics to an X3. Rogue slightly edges it for better ride quality and compliance.
@dawsongranger4940
@dawsongranger4940 Ай бұрын
It’s because of the formula 1 derived cvt transmission
@MrSelvin78
@MrSelvin78 20 күн бұрын
Yes.Nissan in general has better driving dynamics than Honda and Toyota..
@Joe-nb3fs
@Joe-nb3fs Ай бұрын
Honestly, it looks great inside and out. Love the styling.
@kaizen5180
@kaizen5180 Ай бұрын
Those zero gravity will have you drive from Tallahassee to Spokane, sitting on clouds
@JulioLopez-xz5kx
@JulioLopez-xz5kx Ай бұрын
Big Nissan Energy!
@robertburkett3125
@robertburkett3125 Ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂
@tocreatee5736
@tocreatee5736 Ай бұрын
HUGE KIA Energy😂😂😂😂😂😂
@dmc7911
@dmc7911 Ай бұрын
I’ve said it many times, vehicles in this class first and foremost need to tolerate neglect because you better believe buyers at this price point are going to be clueless about what is needed and tell the dealer to pound sand when the $300 CVT service is recommended. Add in Nissan’s tendency to cater to sub-prime buyers and cars like the Rogue are set up to have a bad reputation when really they can probably be reliable if maintained.
@jefff7287
@jefff7287 Ай бұрын
I got the CR-V hybrid instead of the Rogue this year. I was happy with my 2015 Altima, but why Nissan didn't make the Rogue into a hybrid and instead focused on putting in a smaller more tech-driven engine is beyond me. The vehicle SEEMS nice, but is woefully lacking in terms of mpg and reliability relative to the Honda. I did the math as well, and even though the Honda is higher upfront cost, the savings at the pump and better reliability and resale value more than make up for it in just a few years.
@jblyon2
@jblyon2 Ай бұрын
Your Honda engine and transmission aren't going to grenade themselves either. The JATCO CVTs are already a roll of the dice, and adding the VC turbo engine on top of that...some owners are in for a massive financial disaster in a few years!
@JokerG16
@JokerG16 Ай бұрын
@@jblyon2exaggerated claims. the CVT isn’t like it used to be. such outdated propaganda
@PresidentJackBauer
@PresidentJackBauer Ай бұрын
They didn't make it a hybrid because the same company makes the outlander hybrid
@jblyon2
@jblyon2 Ай бұрын
@@PresidentJackBauer The weird thing is it would have been very easy for them to do. It's the same platform, and the Outlander is more Nissan parts than Mitsubishi. I suppose Mitsubishi sales are bad enough though that they didn't want to risk impacting those figures further.
@whatchis1120
@whatchis1120 Ай бұрын
They make hybrids and nobody buys them, they had a rogue hybrid from 2016-2019 and stopped due to low take rate and had the best mpg at the time. They done it on several Nissan's and Infiniti's and all got discontinued since they had a low take rate. In reality 30-40 mpg highway is really good and very affordable for most people on just the standard gas cars, plus it takes a long time to get break even usually. But for a lot of people it's about trying to make a difference, for a company it's wasting money if they aren't getting it back. Toyota dominates this field, hardly anyone buys a Ford Escape Hybrid now when they were very popular back in 2004-2012 since nobody made a hybrid compact suv. It's all about marketing and gaining the trust of the public since most people know Toyota and Honda are good cars, 9 out 10 times.
@user-eo1ss5ov4x
@user-eo1ss5ov4x Ай бұрын
dream car tbh. Nobody will look twice at you.
@trevorsutherland5263
@trevorsutherland5263 Ай бұрын
30 years ago a Nissan was just as desirable as a Honda or Toyota. The past 15 years beat up their reputation (some deserved, some not), but for long term reliability I'd put only Honda or Toyota ahead of them; a (non-CVT) Nissan will outlast everything else on the road no matter where it comes from.
@air-headedaviator1805
@air-headedaviator1805 Ай бұрын
Weirdly enough the Rogue ranks amongst the highest in consumer reliability reports last time I checked. Also don’t let this distract you from the fact that an AWD 3 cylinder turbo Rogue is basically a GR Corolla.
@good-tn9sr
@good-tn9sr Ай бұрын
except much much heavier lol
@hirprimate941
@hirprimate941 Ай бұрын
I really appreciate the take on this car being really goddamn important for a family that doesn’t have money. It’s was an agonizing choice when I bought a new car in 2022. I picked a Crosstrek because of Consumer Reports review but I know long term reliability wont be the same as my 1995 Impreza Wagon which I drove for 22 years. Direct injection and CVT are concerning not to mention all the wildly complex computer systems. So I installed an oil/air separator and I’ll be buying an expensive Scan tool which I’ll use when I change the CVT fluid every 36k (even though Subaru of America says you don’t need to change their magical lifetime fluid) Rich people don’t care, they are driving $80k electric cars which are disposable as far as they are concerned. Charging on trips is not an issue for them because they fly to further destinations, nobody talks about this. Regular people…..you know , the poors….we can’t afford to jump on an airplane for every 500mile trip. Remember we have families so it’s not one ticket it’s four or five….
@XantoS771
@XantoS771 Ай бұрын
13:06 "Songs that bump in the Nissan Altima" "2010 NISSAN ALTIMA BANGERS" "NISSAN ALTIMA ACTIVITIES" ...never change savagegeese
@radiosonicfan1726
@radiosonicfan1726 4 күн бұрын
Drove a Rogue as a rental car. It was extremely comfortable and easy to use as a first time driver. The driver assist warnings were a bit aggressive. Would consider the brand, but off the table due to a CVT. Mark, hope you're not getting macular degeneration.
@jz7551
@jz7551 Ай бұрын
Nissan’s current CVTs are excellent. The only real concern here is not the CVT but the 3cyl engine (which has proven to be OK so far). Only time will tell, but assuming that the engine will last, then this Rogue is definitely best in class.
@peterf90
@peterf90 Ай бұрын
Had one out for a test drive though it was a base model, lots of power, quite quick, refined drive, comfortable seats, very nice tech for a base model. The interior feels pretty premium, lots of space. A very nice vehicle all and all, reasonably priced compared to main competitors. Lots of these being sold. I’m definitely considering one though a little higher up trim level to get the really, really super cool tech.
@Bursar60
@Bursar60 Ай бұрын
Moved to a city every 3rd car is an Altima. Had to sell my motorcycle, not safe enough out here with these *people*
@supertrooper73
@supertrooper73 Ай бұрын
Sounds like Orlando.
@joseeduardo4327
@joseeduardo4327 Ай бұрын
Love the google message on the infotainment
@evejones2650
@evejones2650 Ай бұрын
I have 2023 Rogue and I love it
@Mr-ed5ep
@Mr-ed5ep Ай бұрын
I rented one for a week. I was impressed actually.
@ericschwartzberg5083
@ericschwartzberg5083 Ай бұрын
Currently have 2 Nissan Rogue Sports 2018,2022. Never any issues super happy
@CanadianNemesis
@CanadianNemesis Ай бұрын
This seems like a good vehicle to lease as it is top of class as long as nothing goes wrong with it. If it has issues, just drop it off after the lease is up and be done with it, but if you've had no issues after the lease is up you have the option to buy it. Buying it new is a bit of a gamble.
@johnneilson377
@johnneilson377 Ай бұрын
A time bomb (JATCO CVT) and a land mine (VC engine). What could possibly go wrong?
@lego4virgo
@lego4virgo Ай бұрын
Not a JATCO. Nissan designed the Xtronic CVT themselves. Take that as you will.
@dvaritek434
@dvaritek434 Ай бұрын
​@@lego4virgoxtronic is a jatco marketed cvt according to wiki. Also nissan owns them so...
@lego4virgo
@lego4virgo Ай бұрын
@@dvaritek434 But looking at the Xtronic model for this 2024 Nissan Rogue and the list of JATCO transmissions, I think this was more of an in-house design by Nissan vs "farming it out" to JATCO, who I didn't realize were a Nissan subsidiary. Since this is a new engine design, Nissan probably wanted to ensure that there were no incompatibility issues--nor raise the JATCO spectre on the model--so they did this one themselves. I know JATCO still does the CVT units for other Nissan products.
@johnneilson377
@johnneilson377 Ай бұрын
That said, as a former owner of a 2012 Sentra whose CVT failed at 169K, I am very interested in the 2025 Kicks, CVT notwithstanding.
@propertyguru22
@propertyguru22 Ай бұрын
@johnneilson377 You are stuck in the year 2013. Stop posting misleading information.
@singular9
@singular9 Ай бұрын
Almost thought Jack said that the Rogue focuses on "rogue" noise not road noise.
@revnto7k
@revnto7k Ай бұрын
Nice to see Nissan really trying. Not that they had a choice. It's too bad that the reliability is in question. 20 years ago this would have been as reliable as Honda and Toyota. I wish Nissan could compete in that regard, as it would make shopping for new vehicles a lot more interesting. As someone who prioritizes dependability over anything else I really only shop 2 brands. and Nissan used to be there as one of those brands.
@integral9585
@integral9585 Ай бұрын
My hairline has receded too far to be a rogue owner, I need you guys to check out a Forester
@southsidetom
@southsidetom Ай бұрын
Rented '24 Rogue from Nashville to Knoxville. Decent size for its class. Ez to read n use controls. Harsh suspension over any expansion joints and potholes in asphalt; fine on smooth pavement. Weird droning sound from drivetrain and clicking from engine bay. Variable compression good MPG as hit 33 MPG during round trip. Seats near hip joint not comfortable for 3 hours. Would be fine in shorter drives. AC cold in hot 90s weather.
@hunterf3
@hunterf3 Ай бұрын
Great car for the money, especially if you lease it . This is a lease king and honestly is really not a bad buy. At this point, we know the transmission fluid has to be changed and it will basically last forever, but that engine is unfixable in my opinion. That has major issues down to the rod bearings and crankshaft and personally I would not touch it with a 10 foot pole.
@grahamstefaan
@grahamstefaan Ай бұрын
Murano cross cab is a cream puff. Drooling.
@jefftrimm7806
@jefftrimm7806 Ай бұрын
We got a 2023 Rogue as a rental vehicle and used it on two 5-hour road trips, and it was pleasant to drive. Reliability concerns aside, it’s otherwise a well executed vehicle, especially at its price point. The fuel economy was exceptional- we got 38mph driving 80+mph. God knows if the Jatco CVT will grenade as in the past, and the 3-cylinder failures are troubling, but it really is a good vehicle to drive.
@stanmarcusgtv
@stanmarcusgtv Ай бұрын
in a nutshell, Nissan is a rental car brand
@TheCarGuru
@TheCarGuru Ай бұрын
You guys need to review the Maximia. Yes, the Maxima. 😂
@BeastChan23
@BeastChan23 Ай бұрын
Switched a family member from a '17 Rav4, to a used '22 Rogue, and have been pretty happy with it so far. I was pretty weary of the brand because of it's reputation, but this thing was like under $25k before a $15k trade in, it was hard to beat. Was also looking at other used Rav4's but options in the price range were outdated tech (no GPS, no car play/android auto, little to no safety features) it really felt like a side grade going to a newer Rav4, on top of their higher asking price. Will keep an eye out for any issues, so far no problems, and doing oil changes earlier than recommended at 5k miles instead of 7.5k
@tophlovr
@tophlovr Ай бұрын
I appreciate that they talk about reliability! As nice as Nissan's ride, they are not worth the 10k miles you will get out of them before needing to change your oil, and engine, and transmission. Many other reviewers don't bother with the drive train reliability review. Savage Geese and Motormouth are the only channels I will watch before making my final decision on purchasing a vehicle.
@mattfreeman8007
@mattfreeman8007 22 күн бұрын
I bought this car 6 weeks ago. Don't knock it, till you try it. I drive city and highway everday. I have driven Nissan for over 10 years, with no issues. I find it interesting how much consumers hate Nissan. I must have great luck or maybe Nissan not that bad.😀✌️
@garciakcfan
@garciakcfan Ай бұрын
Bought a 24 platinum and because I questioned reliability I purchased a 8 year 125k bumper to bumper to give me that piece of mind. The updated tech with the infotainment is nice and easy to use. Stereo is good too. Nissan has always done a good job with their interiors, seats are the best! Gas is decent. 36 mpg highway. If it breaks, get it fixed. I think overall value its a decent buy.
@mobiledevice2802
@mobiledevice2802 Ай бұрын
I rented a few, every time I get in, I have to switch to sport mode and turn off engine auto stop/start.
@danielrcoster
@danielrcoster 25 күн бұрын
I know the current generation Outlander is similar mechanically. I rented (well was given one) one for an 800 mile drive from the Chicago suburbs to Minneapolis and back, and I admit that I did not hate it. It was comfortable and compliant, and even with 38k miles for the rental was not the worst vehicle. I did pour one out for all of the people who would be plagued with some sort of drivetrain reliability issue longer-term, but I suppose that one had the 4-cylinder at least? So better, maybe?
@gncc600
@gncc600 Ай бұрын
Mark looks like Elton John's illegitimate son.
@austinfrazier7325
@austinfrazier7325 Ай бұрын
Great comment 😂
@Unsalted375
@Unsalted375 Ай бұрын
lol
@mpolinsk22
@mpolinsk22 Ай бұрын
One other thought, forget needing it to work like a dishwasher or washing machine. Anyone who has bought (and subsequently spent a lot on repairs/replacement over just the first couple years) knows, if anything, the last thing the buyers of a Rogue will want is it to be like a modern household appliance.
@somerandomfella
@somerandomfella Ай бұрын
Where did Mark get his designer grandpa sunglasses? 😎
@nickpapagiorgio2253
@nickpapagiorgio2253 Ай бұрын
We looked at those but with with their past reliability and now a smaller engine (long term reliability for a 3 banger) we went with a 24' Venza Limited.
@ab-nz2mm
@ab-nz2mm Ай бұрын
music at the beginning is lit
@GothRocker7
@GothRocker7 Ай бұрын
You should test drive the Nissan Rogue's brother the new Mitsubishi Outlander, I feel it has a better interior, nicer design and has a reliable normal four cylinder engine. plus Mitsubishi has a great All Wheel Drive system. The Outlander is made in Japan and has amazing 10 year/100K warranty. You should check it out. I go for the Mitsubishi over the Nissan.
@qwerty69600
@qwerty69600 Ай бұрын
These MFers BALLING. You can tell when random tax convos slip in that people are making bank.
@dforrest4503
@dforrest4503 Ай бұрын
The improved CVT and last redesign had me thinking about these, but then they switched from the 2.5 to the turbo.
@FingerBoy10
@FingerBoy10 Ай бұрын
In my country, they sell the X-Trail which is basically this, but with a 2.5 NA engine and (probably) the same CVT transmission. I wonder, reliability wise, if it might be a better deal. It's LOADED with features and "toys", specially when comparing it to rivals in the same segment but at a similar price.
@grinster399
@grinster399 Ай бұрын
So sad you people don't get the e-Power (hybrid) version of this that sells in much of the rest of the world (eg. here in Australia, as the X-Trail). In top trim (Ti-L) guise, AWD via front & rear electric motors where the 1.5 turbo simply generates the electricity required, and nothing more. No drive train, no gears, one-pedal driving ... but otherwise essentially the same exterior and interior as the Rogue. A super, super great vehicle - best that I have owned across the past five decades of various makes & models that I have owned.
@ericmichel3857
@ericmichel3857 Ай бұрын
Odd, I was driving in Dallas today and just happened to notice a lot of these Nissan Rogue's. Then I get home and see this in my queue. I kind of get it, it's cheap with lots of incentives from Nissan, and it looks and drives a lot better for the price.
@jordangordon2350
@jordangordon2350 Ай бұрын
Hey guys! Sorry to be unrelated but when are we getting the part 3 of the s2000 series?? You've done review, used red flags, now do the modding part like you said! ❤
@howebrad4601
@howebrad4601 Ай бұрын
If im not mistaken the mitsubishi outlander uses a similar architecture with a 4 cylinder engine. Also good quality at a competitive price.
@dimekoza
@dimekoza Ай бұрын
The X-Trail, as it's called in Europe, with it's hybrid E-Power E4orce drivetrain sells between 55.000 and 66.000euro. But it does come from Japan for the European market.
@oliverroo59
@oliverroo59 Ай бұрын
I rented an Altima a few weeks ago and actially grew attached to it. Peppy, responsibe powertrain and a pretty nice inteiror space that had real knobs and buttons. I kind of liked it!
@MrSelvin78
@MrSelvin78 20 күн бұрын
Which engine?
@steel3879
@steel3879 Ай бұрын
Make a video looking back at the last of the full size v6 sedans. Ford Taurus, Chevy Impala, Chrysler 300, etc. Or just one of those cars. I miss the class
@pinkisforpimps
@pinkisforpimps Ай бұрын
Nissan Maxima/Infiniti M37, Acura RLX, etc
@louisc76
@louisc76 Ай бұрын
I’d be curious your thoughts on the Mitsubishi Outlander. Same car but with the old 2.5 and built in Japan. Dealers may be sketchier than Nissan but I’d be more inclined to give one of those a go.
@jefff7287
@jefff7287 Ай бұрын
Consumer Reports rates it better than Rogue for sure, but it lacks horsepower. I was in the market this year for a compact SUV and it made my short list. For me though, the fact that the Outlander is literally the only good vehicle Mitsubishi sells in the US made me not really overly consider it. I went with the CR-V hybrid, and did the math. While the Outlander is a bit less expensive upfront, the cost at the pump, the resale value, and the reliability just are not on par with the Honda, and I'd much rather have a strong network of dealerships.
@louisc76
@louisc76 Ай бұрын
@@jefff7287 Appreciate the input. I know the Mirage is junky af but at the price point for a small new beater car I’d be more likely to buy that over an Outlander because as you said, resale probably sucks. A lot less of a $$ drop on a cheap commuter. The other Mitsubishi cars are non-starters.
@Natural11001001
@Natural11001001 Ай бұрын
I'm a bit surprised you didn't bring up the Mitsubishi Outlander. Same platform as the Rogue but uses the old 2.5 and 10 year powertrain warranty. I'm not interested in either vehicle but it does seem worth mentioning I think.
@jeffer1101
@jeffer1101 Ай бұрын
It's too bad about the engine issues, hopefully they figure it out. I suppose if you still like the vehicle, you could get it and just buy the longest extended warranty available.
@krisl3228
@krisl3228 Ай бұрын
Sound like you should have bought a more reliable car to begin with
@jeffer1101
@jeffer1101 Ай бұрын
@@krisl3228 Well, I did. I bought a Toyota Venza. The Toyota hybrids are the most reliable vehicles made. But they have a long wait time and not everyone prioritizes reliability.
@Jesse-lg3xj
@Jesse-lg3xj Ай бұрын
Looking forward to the 2025 Explorer. If you guys review this, it would be great to see your thoughts on the ST model this time around.
@joeamith838
@joeamith838 Ай бұрын
A new savagegeese video makes me happy!! but then it's the Rogue which makes me sad..
@351tgv
@351tgv 29 күн бұрын
In Australia the X-Trail (Rouge) petrol (gasoline) version is a 4cyl 2.5L NA engine with CVT either FWD or FWD Bias AWD. Nissan also offer the E:Power version which has the same engine as the Rouge but all it does is act as a generator for the inverter which feeds the battery then feeds the front and rear electric motor so essentially its a n electric vehicle powered by petrol. The petrol NA version engine is quite reliable, the CVT? Nissan claims they fixed the issue from the T32 series in the T33 series but questions remain. and no one really knows the longer term reliability and durability of the E:Power version yet. The highway petrol consumption difference is negligible between both but the E:Power does use less in metro areas over the petrol, NA version.
@scott8919
@scott8919 Ай бұрын
Listening to that CVT fake shift in the background as Mark and Jack are talking really makes me want to bang my head against the wall. Just... go back to sitting at one RPM if you're going to make it sound like the slowest shifting four speed auto ever.
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