2020 Jeep Wrangler Diesel | It's Pricey

[@vinmatrix76]

I intend on buying a diesel gladiator for my wife next year. I have a few reasons for this. The first is the range, we overland and when your getting to and from some places the range of your vehicle is extremely important. The second reason is that I run a h1 hummer for off roading and overlanding. Before anyone talks about the range on a h1 mine has been heavily modified and can pull down nearly 30mpg. Anyway we want a diesel so that we can carry the same fuel, this adds redundancy to our additional fuel carrying capabilities. The third reason is bigger tires. When going to bigger tires you need the additional torque to efficiently turn the tires over. I will be installing Dana 60s and running 40” tires with the same bolt pattern as my h1. Again because it provides redundancy between the two trucks. In all I will pay the extra money to have a truck that is very capable and compliments my current truck. From my perspective there is NO other truck that has the potential or capability to run with my h1 with out spending FAR more money. G wagon squared anyone? While it may not be right for some, it’s perfect for my wants and usage.

[@aj06bolt12r]

Enjoy being in limp mode hours and hours away from the nearest dealership due to the emissions bullshit

[@joshua6200]

Jesus, I feel like you're trying to sell diesels. Anyone that owns one, knows about the benefits....

[@joshua6200]

Plus..you must have an H1?

[@vinmatrix76]

joshua6200 not trying to sell anyone. The video asks why your willing to pay the extra to buy one. That was my answer, and reasoning. I’m not sure what your question about my h1 is. Are you questioning if I have one? Or are you saying that you’d have to have one for my reason to make sense? Either way it’s a mute question. There are old vids of my h1 on KZbin, and you could own any diesel truck and use the same logic.

[@andykr2253]

@@vinmatrix76 If you're going to lift it please spend the 30 seconds most dipshits don't to reaim the headlights

[@eppyz]

Just blows my mind how much cars and trucks and such are costing these days. Just insane.

[@VtAneila]

As long as loans and credit exists in its current state aka anyone with a credit score of 400 these will continue to be purchased and go up in price every year.

[@JohnBrowningsGhost]

Ill buy them used until people wise up and quit paying these prices new.

[@eppyz]

@@VtAneila yeah I understand what you're saying but have you seen how many repose there are a year??? it's ridiculous it's that American way of keeping up with the Joneses when you cant... It's people driving Civic type R's but can't afford a decent apartment or house? Im guilty of it when i was younger but wish someone would have told me to just save my money instead.

[@eppyz]

@@JohnBrowningsGhost buying used is definitely the better way to go you just have to be careful nowadays people trash their cars and you could just be getting someone else's problems that happened to me on a truck my family bought...so it's a Gamble.. Not all used are good cars

[@VtAneila]

@@eppyz Alot of friends and co workers of mine have had the banks take back cars and homes. The ones that still have theirs are barely holding onto them each month. Nowadays everybody is the Joneses and it's just a competition for whoever loses their home or car last, wins. When Millennials and younger Gen X'ers hit retirement age and reality sets in 99% of Americans will lose and I am quite excited for that day.

[@fakenelsonmandela]

I love how you put in so much effort to make all your content really high quality and comprehensive and yet you still get half the amount of views as some other guys driving around with a two go pros. wtf is wrong with people?

[@CarsMeetsBikes]

Fake Nelson Mandela I think not a lot of people care about the nitty gritty details, underbody, etc (and yet people like watching quirks and features??) but I live for it

[@BruhBruh-pz2ww]

Cause he is super negative

[@americansmark]

Because this is boring as shit. It's loved by Reddit nerds.

[@remytv]

He does not ask to subscribe or smash that like button?

[@zefolantar]

Teacher Ahmad The word you were looking for is HONEST! And most people just can’t handle the truth.

[@Taurineg]

$60k Jeep Diesel- coming to your nearest army base on a 40 years payment plan.

[@Taurineg]

Chris L dont forget their 12% interest rate. Met one that proudly told me how his rate is ‘only’ 8%. Dudes getting fuck in the ass and he didn’t even know

[@jaybee2344]

@@Taurineg With excellent credit you can get 0% but only about 10% of buyers qualify.

[@johnemberton408]

What’s sad, is that at 0% interest, you’ll still end up upside down on the damn thing.

[@ayekaye8055]

Fake News Media 100% this

[@Thegravyipass]

Haha, and then they have to make the military a career.

[@Nirvanaib]

As a JK owner waiting for the diesel gladiator, the reason why we wanted the diesel is the power, and diesels ability to not be AS sensitive to weight addition. While you may not see the benefit of the diesel on a stock vehicle, if you do what many jeepers do, and add 37" tires, bumpers, winch, etc, plus cargo and passengers, the benefit of the diesel will become instantly apparent.

[@sleeksilver]

Too pricey for what it is. Your videos are the best man, hands down.

[@LordWinter]

6K for a fuel efficient engine that you'd need to own 7 years to just break even on? sounds about Jeep

[@MrConor159]

Sounds like the phev might make more sense

[@atnoffroad]

Try 10 years

[@hissingoose]

Gas is $1.05/L here, Diesel is $1.20/L, so fuel cost is 12.5% higher, so it's 12.5% more efficient based on fuel cost. The price premium here is $8000.xx for the diesel engine option. so after 64,000L (16,886 gal) of diesel, you'll break even on cost of operations @ 12L/100km combined mileage. the odometer will read 533,333kms... good luck getting a FCA Diesel to 533,333kms (333,333miles) without catastrophic repairs.

[@LordWinter]

The 202X fully electric Jeep will start at 65k base...Im calling it

[@dragasoni]

This makes no sense at all. Gasoline in my area is $2.13 per gallon (56 cents per liter) and diesel is $.2.46 per gallon (65 cents per liter) US dollars. So, to make up the difference ($6,000) you'd have to buy 18,181 gallons of diesel!

[@CandEAdventures]

Long johns fish tacos are no joke, and are delicious in the moment, but always let me down about an hour later. Im thinking this eco diesel may be the same way.

[@ay3514]

CandE.Adventures facts

[@1970HondaCL100]

Best. Analogy. Ever.

[@noahd4039]

That was beautiful sir😂

[@tallll70]

but you gonna have the confirmation much faster with the taco

[@quarthmeat1884]

Damn, didn't expect to see you here.

[@revnto7k]

I cannot imagine who would pay $56K for that... My god that is so expensive!!

[@mikederucki]

Craig Chevalier seriously add tax, title, license, and fees you are out the door at $60k on a Jeep. Wild times we live in

[@jakehunter3434]

No wonder people drive these like douche bags, I guess they think they are badass spending so much on one of these.

[@arealbigboss]

People who put star wars stickers on their cars and join the national guard

[@protocetid]

@@youreanonshareer People care too much about branding, because of it we missed out on the new Jimny which is an incredible bargain and capable enough for everyone except the most hardcore off roaders. Competition is good for the consumer, buyers need flock to the new Defender and Bronco so Jeep will have no choice but to lower their prices.

[@DifferentWayDown]

Not to mention the outrageous repair/maintenance costs on a modern diesel with all the extra electronic and emissions nonsense.

[@Towert7]

Imagine the publicity if they put a Cummins diesel in a jeep. Now that might be worth an extra $6k.

[@markm0000]

The 4bt in the Jeep truck would be epic.

[@mountainhobo]

$60K for a "lifestyle vehicle"? There will be tons of them parked at community colleges in San Francisco Bay Area.

[@candyshop2907]

and connecticut. over here plenty of wranglers and range rovers from rich community college students .

[@Taurineg]

Then Bay Area is full of Chinese students with Lamborghini and 7series

[@apollosbrownies]

And 90% will be leases from their parents

[@timothycc711]

Not one will be used offroad either, smh.

[@dcarts5616]

@@Taurineg better get used to it. By the way, know if any of them are teaching English to Chinese classes? I hear they won’t torture Americans who speak the language of communism as much as those who don’t. #USAFORSALE #CALLLOCALCOUNTRYSELLERBIDEN

[@maxlugo4418]

Your videos are just so amazing, I love your straight-up comments. Keep up with the good work

[@voiceoverdave]

I ordered a Rubicon diesel a month ago. No ETA yet. I want it because I live in FL, love torque, and I love the quirkiness, sound, and economy of Diesel engines. It is ridiculously expensive and I’ve never spent so much on a vehicle before. I hope it’s All That.

[@fabianherrmann6398]

This time you did not just look like you were falling asleep you actually did. I appreciate your irony that cuts right trough the marketing talk.

[@bryantking5940]

One reason to select this vehicle in diesel is if you live in an area prone to hurricanes. The gas stations run out of gasoline before the hurricanes even hit, but diesel always seems to be available at the pumps after a hurricane. And if you have to go over or around a downed tree or drag it out of road, this would be the Jeep to own.

[@shannonjude1]

the reviews here are so good, this is one of the few channels i read comments. you dont get the views or subs you should but the folks here really appreciate the effort that goes into your reviews...most reviews other should just post the press kit and sticker.

[@leonardovillalba881]

In another countries in South America , and some other countries where diesel is cheaper than regular gas , diesel engines in jeep wranglers has been used for many many years tho . But I’m glad it’s gonna be a thing here in the U.S

[@avlisk]

With the huge upcharge for this engine, I am guessing you get the base engine too so you can swap it out when the engine fails?

[@pfacka]

Pentastar is not the most reliable engine either. Fiat/Iveco uses diesel engines for decades and are pretty good at this game. If you have your reservations just wait a year or two. If there is something wrong with them they must fix it it's their bread and butter engine. Diesels are much more expensive to build, the high price should be compensated with lower consumption. How much sense that make in US? I don't know. I live in Europe and my truck has V8 in it.

[@1waffleiron]

@@pfacka the 3.6 got a quiet redesign in 2016 as well. It's. A lot better than it used to be.

[@a.kblur04]

1waffleiron Not only the redesign, but after the head failures were solved in 2012, Pentastars have very few problems if any. They’re smooth, powerful, as economical as anyone else’s medium displacement 6, and for what they are, reliable.

[@pfacka]

@@a.kblur04 my point is that this Eco Diesel is as important for FCA as Pentastar and if there is something wrong with it, they are just as balls deep in it. They must and will fix it.

[@Dialysisforever]

Man , I wish.

[@pepehands8224]

Every Jeepnation fanboy cried for a Diesel in the wrangler but none of them can afford it without a 72 month financing. I don't see them selling alot of these.

[@fahhad17]

lol soooo true ....now i wannna see what they say

[@Nirvanaib]

There is already a massive backlog. VM MOTORI, the company that builds these, has a capacity of 42k engines a year, and that goes across all the FCA vehicles, ie Rams, and they cant keep up. Only 10% of the diesels produced will go towards the wrangler and as of now, they sold way more than they built.

[@stevenp3176]

No FCAs model has been working for them. Keep raising the price and people will pay it.

[@ati573]

All cars nowadays have a loan that long. When is the last time you purchased a new vehicle. . I own a jl Rubicon loaded and going to add the gladiator desiel to our garage

[@halohunter5217]

@@ati573 I only do 36 month loans... Pay more interest if you want.

[@paulm6481]

Best Wrangler engine is Pentastar V6. Reliable and proven. Can be had with manual or automatic. Nuff said.

[@joepickett4551]

I have had nothing but problems with my 3.6.

[@makatron]

Hardcore off-road people will get this because it'll run great on 37" and have loads of low end torque for steep trails. But sadly most I've seen don't look like ever left the pavement.

[@copperhead_R]

I don't think an average buyer, someone who is buying it just for commuting would go for the Diesel at that price point. But the jeep community its huge and people who use their jeeps for actual off roading and overloading whatever exploring they want will want to have a diesel with more power. Once you lift a jeep and put 37" tires and all the accessories and also even if you regear the differentials you will want more power. I mean there is a lot of engine swaps out there but they are expensive, more than what you would pay at the dealer unless you have the time and knowledge to do it yourself. Its a great option to be able to get more power, better gas milage and the reliability of OEM parts that are covered by warranty. Great review guys.

[@br5145-v3m]

Patagonia vs. The North Face: Jeep Edition

[@Jasshands1]

I have a 2012. With all the aev goodies. I used to do lots of camping out west in some rougher areas. I drive a lot on the highways in western Canada (fuel economy). The only reason I want one (and I don’t know if I will buy one) is for the fuel economy. I’m sick and tired of getting 15-18mpg on the effing highway. I spend more tome at the pump in winter then flexing my JUUL pods at the local bowling alley. I have a older amg that gets 27 ( one of the reasons I bought that car). It would replace both vehicles. But since I’m a millennial I’ll probably just buy one of those sick electric scooters at the end of the video and get my self a nice avocado toast.

[@daviddowling9830]

The most sensible review out there,no yelling,hand waving,goofy music,look at me bull crap.

[@NuclearGrizzly]

I few years ago in Morocco I owned a Rubicon with a 4 cyl diesel. Absolutely bulletproof engine. It's still available all over the world.

[@flashfilibuster5382]

The apology part is spot on. I drive a 20 year old 5 speed Silverado and it's far from an ideal experience as far as most people are concerned, but I love it and excuse almost all of the shortcomings because of that.

[@zaitcev0]

In some situations, the mileage can be very useful. Like, for example, the area around Middlegate and Gabbs, Nevada. I mentioned those two because they do have fuel, although not always. But if you go to explore some old mines, you may be away from gas for days. The typical answer is to carry a couple of jerry cans, but that brings its own issues with the smell, safety, and just convenience. Personally, I hate lifting the cans and I tend to pour gas upon myself when I syphon it.

[@stephenhendricks103]

When I want a unique and detailed perspective on a vehicle I come to this channel. Great job, gentlemen.

[@littlestinker9716]

I rented a 2020 Wrangler JLU Sport S recently. Had the 2.0L turbo engine. Drove from Baltimore to Rhode Island and back. Averaged 29mpg for 1,000 miles of driving, mostly on interstates. With fuel economy that good, I don't see the point of paying a huge premium for the diesel and its complicated emissions system.

[@777jones]

Little Stinker I’m thinking the same thing. When people say they love diesel torque, what they mean is they love turbos. Gas turbos provide basically the same torque.

[@FriendlyManitoban]

Good info to be aware of. Did t realize the 2.0 turbo was that efficient. Thanks.

[@Striker50_]

@@777jones ???? The diesel literally provides like 150lb ft more that is not the same

[@777jones]

Striker 50 eco boost 2.7 is a better comparison here.

[@TheBli7krieg]

@@Striker50_ guess what? Diesel engine is 3 liter and unlike 2 liter gasoline engine, it will have more torque obv.

[@briangray5921]

everyone says they will buy a desiel Jeep, They dont buy it. everyone says they will buy a two door jeep, they dont buy it.

[@armyboy1207]

Brian Gray I’m a FCA salesman and hardly ever have requests for diesel options. Same with a two door gladiator. The demand isn’t there despite what you hear online.

[@Xachremos]

@@armyboy1207 Because its all fun and games until they see the price tag

[@Loudlevin]

with the two door wrangler they play games with the pricing not including a/c, add a/c to the base model and your within negligible price difference to the 4 door base model which includes a/c.

[@jfazzuoli3813]

indeed....driving enthusiasts say wagons are cool and nobody buys them....they wine about the loss of manual transmissions yet they don't buy them.

[@dsugioaga]

That's because people who say these types of things are usually enthusiasts/fans - but they only represent a small percentage of buyers. For the average buyer, convenience is usually king (not just with cars). That's why most modern cars have automatics and are stuffed with (from my perspective) useless features... I would absolutely buy a 20k two door Jeep with zero options. Unfortunately, it doesn't exist. And the awesome Suzuki Jimny isn't sold in the US...

[@muznick]

And the winner for "best dramatic performance in a car review video" goes to: Todd Parakeet. Again.

[@CarlosRodriguez-hb3vq]

Honest review. So many KZbin car reviews sound like a sales pitch. This covers both pros and cons.

[@DieselJLUx2]

I have a 21 jl Sahara altitude that we’ve put a 3.5” lift and 35” tires on. The engine and trans don’t even notice the larger tires. Fuel economy is still around 27-30mpg. I bought it for my wife and loved driving it so much that I decided to order my own 22 Ecodiesel rubicon. I’ll be doing a 4” lift on 37s. My wife has had hers since new and has about 20k miles on it so far with 0 issues. The only real issue we have with it is storage. Which we knew buying a Jeep it would be limited in storage. However l, there are a lot of great aftermarket storage options to solve this.

[@hissingoose]

It's 25% more efficient, ok. Gas is $1.05/L here, Diesel is $1.20/L, so fuel cost is 12.5% higher, so it's 12.5% more efficient based on fuel cost. The price premium here is $8000.xx for the diesel engine option. so after 64,000L of diesel, you'll break even on cost of operations @ 12L/100km combined mileage. the odometer will read 533,333kms... good luck getting a FCA Diesel to 533,333 without catastrophic repairs. I doubt many people actually think about that. The original Eco Diesel Rams needed to be driven roughly 300,000kms before you'd "break even" on the fuel vs cost of a Hemi, but most of them would be in the shop. Sources: friend works in sales at a Chrysler dealership, uncle is a mechanic at another Chrysler dealership.

[@app1mxh]

Excellent post. Please add the cost of Diesel Exhaust Fluid which I heard can be expensive.

[@benmoericke2006]

Awesome content as usual. Just a clarification - the Diesel is 6k more than the MANUAL V6. If you compare apples to apples (since Diesel is only available in an Auto) then the Diesel is 4k more than the Auto V6 and ~3k more than the Auto I4. Still expensive, but definitely feasible for someone who wants the torque/fuel economy/offroad capability. Lastly, at 56k that is a VERY well equipped Overland. A more moderately equipped Overland or Sport S could be had in the low 40's. Great content - keep it up!

[@LonersGuide]

Me: Top-down, doors off in the snow at night, wearing T-shirt. Don't woosify the Jeep, de-woosify yourself.

[@oneplutoa]

Not the main reason I'm buying the diesel option but as part of a SAR Medical team with a great deal in the back country of OR/WA this is a great fit. Plus when driving between offices for work the mileage gain is nice, even if it takes 7 years. I have owned jeeps since 93 YJ to 99 TJ to 2008 JK to 2015 JK to soon to be 2020 JL Diesel, even giving up my long trusted manual because there are SO many upsides to the power plant. Adding my winch and gear with no other mods needed to make this NW backcountry ready is also a very nice cost savings. In any event I'm thrilled that FCA gave us this option.

[@motoacquatico1967]

HI! I have VM Motori 100 km from home, and I have had my ecodiesel Gladiator in the garden since the end of October 2021 which I've been treating like a daughter (I'm also very careful where I park 🙄🥰😁): I'm at 24,000 km, and I change the oil every 6 months/9000km; Am I right, since he'll have to grow old with me? Here, an 80th like mine, full optional (only the cargo pack is missing) is priced at €75,000, paid for at a discount of €63,000. I would like to know if engines are proving to be reliable in this new version.. Thanks!

[@NigelsModellingBench]

We only get the 2.2 Diesel and 2.0 Gas engine here in the UK. We only get 8 spd auto too.. A 2.o Rubicon auto with no extras comes in at $64300 over here!! The range starts at $49400 for a base 2 door. Still, it's so nice to hear you talking about bigger better engines.. all we hear in the UK is how we will convert to 0 emissions cars by 2035, yep, 0 emissions, not even Hybrids will be sold.

[@BeanieNinjay0]

Perfect vehicle for the rich frat bro that needs a daily driver to LA fitness, or the sorority girl that would use this as a starbucks wagon.

[@grumpyengg5978]

Alex .... Starbucks wagon! I’m dying!! :)

[@xijinpooh8534]

LMFAO 😂

[@chadhanson4369]

Yes a lot of people don’t use it to its full potential but it’s still one of the most fun vehicles ever made and extremely practical as well for daily drivers. No reason why they shouldn’t have a fun vehicle for daily driving

[@AKJeeper]

I'd be more inclined to buy the diesel version if it was paired with a manual transmission. For me, a lot of the Wrangler's character is lost by having an automatic transmission (regardless of the engine type). I want the diesel for its low end torque off road, and its increased fuel economy (to make it more livable when I'm not offroad). I tend to keep vehicles for the long run (I kept my '94 Cherokee XJ for 20 years/443k miles when I deadlined it due to rust), so yeah - the $6k premium really blows...but it would eventually pay itself off in fuel savings over the V6. I've driven diesel Wranglers in Europe and as you say - the engine fits perfectly with the character the Jeep is supposed to have. I just want it with a manual, damnit!

[@tripleseven8361]

Yup... unfortunately, nobody’s listening… (2006 TJ Sport - Srandard)

[@AKJeeper]

Peter Ward I had the funds to special order a 2006 TJ new, but chose not to because my ‘94 XJ was still going strong and didn’t have space for a second Jeep. Not getting that TJ is one of my biggest automotive regrets. Hope you’re loving yours!

[@tripleseven8361]

@@AKJeeper you know, it doesn’t have all of the bells and whistle‘s of the new ones… Bluetooth etc., but on the other hand nothing breaks and there is nothing to break… I’m worried about buying a vehicle where every single gadget has some sort of an electric switch.

[@80KG_Costco_Chicken]

They should just put in the HEMI for less than half the cost

[@Spanked78]

Fuel economy and crash safety issues are why you'll never see a Hemi in a Wrangler from the factory. I wouldn't be surprised if they kill the V6 in the next few years.

[@80KG_Costco_Chicken]

@Richard McCaig You do know diesel is more expenisve to maintain, right? And when DPF goes wrong, you'd better have some deep pockage to fix that juink if you are out of warranty.

[@euroamericabusiness]

Here is my personal opinion: after driving the 2.0 turbo version I found it very powerful responsive and fun, it is not as economical like people think though... the manual calls for the highest octane gasoline fuel for the 2.0 vs the V6 which you can fuel it with the lowest octane no problem... Also, correct me if I'm wrong but a 4 Cyl Turbo is not going to last so long as the regular atmospheric 3.6 V6 which in my opinion is more reliable and simple to maintain, in conclusion I think that whoever pays the premium for the Diesel version is just for gas mileage and rock crawling torque.

[@CarStory]

If FCA would bring Jeep prices back down to earth I would buy one.

[@FM-xr5nj]

Car Story sadly no car company is bringing their prices back down to earth

[@CarStory]

@@FM-xr5nj I know it's absolutely crazy how all of a sudden $40k has become the norm for anything nice. I think its a scam to encourage leasing.

[@FM-xr5nj]

I remember when 40K got you a fully loaded 3 series lol

[@TheBli7krieg]

@@FM-xr5nj now you can barely buy it. Maybe not lol

[@bcab7955]

I'm just happy that Todd Parakeet makes his return, your outros are the best on YT.

[@garthhayward9581]

I agree with your summation. This motor is desperately required in the Gladiator. That gives real use for the extra torque and fuel economy to make towing and hauling easier and more economical. Hopefully they release it soon. what is going on with FCA and Jeep pricing? Someone needs to tell Tony that Jeep can't be used to sponsor the failure of their other lines and brands that are losing money.

[@blkdavid]

this Jeep is four guys are going to run 40s on their Jeep ,instead of doing an engine swap and putting an LS or some other crate motor in it ,you just have the diesel with 5.29 gears and it can do anything

[@ldodom]

We were loaned a 2020, by the dealer, for a parade. I was shocked at how many plastic/composite panels, doors, etc. there are on this vehicle. Although, that would probably be quite a benefit for anyone living in the rust belt.

[@2manytoyz123]

Put 37s on each of the drivetrain options, then see the big plus the diesel offers. As soon as a dealership has a diesel on the lot long enough for me to test drive one, I’ll likely order mine that day. I get the noise and lack of refinements comments. We also have a 2006 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited. What it lacks in those areas, it makes up for it on the fun factor. We spent 4 hours trail riding recently, much of it in deep water. Never got stuck, had a great time, and was my daily driver once again on Monday. The cost of a new diesel Jeep is outrageous, but my wife’s 2017 Toyota 4Runner TRD Pro had a $55K window sticker, and has a gas engine. Hard to single out Jeep as being overpriced. It is, but it’s not alone!

[@dwaynecarlin]

Would you Please Review a TJ OR YJ so people see how plush the last 2 generations of wranglers really are. Then may be people will stop complaining about ride quality, road noise or creature comforts . The purest will love you for it .

[@MarkRVillano]

The conundrum for me is that one of the usual benefits of a diesel, (aside from the additional torque and better mileage) is that they tend to outlast gasoline engines by a fairly wide margin. 250,000 miles is something that you would easily expect from a well maintained diesel, if not more. This brings me to the question of; "Who is going to put that many highway miles on a rolling cinder block like the Wrangler?" It might be a lot of things, and it might be more comfortable than previous editions, but a highway cruiser it is not. Especially with the off road tires you would use to do what it does best. I guess my point is that longevity in terms of miles will never factor into the equation, because it would be hard to rack up 250,000 of them crawling over rocks, and through ditches.

[@clintmullins4406]

Mark Villano yeah the engine might last that long but none of the emissions stuff will. All that crap they stick on us diesels kill them. It’s pointless.

[@davidtaylor5811]

That looked like perfect Jeep weather! Looking forward to other KZbinrs buying the diesel and see if it's as good off road as what everyone hoped .

[@rcsskier]

After 5500 miles on a diesel JLUR, I am still very happy with my choice. With 37s and a 3.5" lift, I'm still running 21.5mpg across Colorado with stock gearing. The transmission handled off-roading in 4L far better than the V6, especially in high RPM downhill situations.

[@Darksyne]

Definitely a lease vehicle and let the dealer take care of it when it breaks since diesel repairs are expensive AF. That’s if you even find a qualified tech to fix it.

[@Striker50_]

Who off-roads in a leased vehicle

[@app1mxh]

Only people to work on a 60k car should be at the dealer.

[@maccamracecar]

If there were a manual option, I'd buy this in a heart beat.

[@harrismi7]

If I were to get another Wrangler someday, I'd get a 2-door, soft-top and automatic - its a perfect vehicle for where I live - a southern state with mild weather and close to the beach. I used to own a 2013 Unlimited soft top with a 6-speed manual and it was a great vehicle, lots of fun with the top down and I never had any problems with it at all. I only traded because my job involves some long stints driving to another state and on the highway it was a pig to drive, just no acceleration at all in 6th gear - and I'm a die-hard manual person. I love the improvements of the JK over the JL but the price is shocking. To get a nicely equipped one is easily over $40K. My 2013 stickered at $32K and it wasn't a stripped down model, it was a mid-level Freedom Edition.

[@WarriorsPhoto]

I watched this because I figured you’d give the truck your truth. You did. Thank you.

[@jconli1]

Sports with the simple V6 can be had around $30k. Gets 23mpg highway, so only about $300/year more in fuel cost. You can still option a Dana 44 rear with LSD, prewired aux switches, etc. If you don't mind (or prefer) cloth and tactile buttons and switches for everything vs Big Infotainment, its really the best version no one ever talks about.

[@invertedpolarity6890]

Putting Eco in front of anything makes it better, of course.

[@EcoMouseChannel]

I wholeheartedly agree ;-)

[@j_k_mark]

I have been to more than a few Jeep dealers in the last few years with the run up to the JL release and the JT release. The number of jeeps available with manual transmissions is inconsequential. The number of used jeeps with manual transmissions is a small fraction. Factoring in the cost of the automatic with the diesel is irrelevant when a vast majority of jeeps sold are automatics. I have been to large dealers that don’t have a manual trans wrangler on the lot more than once and have been told I’d have to order one. Great video by the way.

[@MichaelRichards983]

That ending though! Haha Thumbs up for sure!

[@MrApplesaucestuff]

bronco is gonna kill this. btw the ending made my day! S+W was neat too

[@ronaldderooij1774]

As you say, the reason to drive a diesel is torque at low rpm and fuel efficiency. That is the contrary of a sports car. But those people are there. I don't know about this engine, but with good maintenance, diesel engines will generally have a 30 % longer life span on average than a traditional engine.

[@HoserHotrods]

I priced out my dream diesel rubicon up here in canada. It came out to $80,221 with taxes... For that same money I could buy a ram 1500 Limited or even a really nice 2500. I want the Jeep because I grew up with my dad having Jeeps. The freedom you feel having all the doors and top off is worth every penny. If they sold the diesel in a 2 door i would already own it haha

[@pinecity3234]

They need to build this engine in the US to bring cost down.

[@gladdy02]

I got a new jeep as a rental for a week with the 2.0 Turbo. The engine was very impressive in my opinion. The handling on the other hand was horrible. I hit a bump in the road in the middle of a turn at 50mph, and I thought i was a goner!

[@blade9531]

Kind of funny! When this first came out the reviewers were saying what a great ride it was. I guess compared to earlier version, that may be true. However, when the Gladiator came out with the extra length, all of them say they "this is the way the Wrangler should have handled".

[@motoristx]

You asked for those who bought a Wrangler Diesel to post and say why you bought it, so I'll tell you why I ordered mine. Power & longevity. Unfortunately, I still don't have my diesel as FCA is dragging their feet on the build process, even though it was ordered on 10/8/2019. My options were, keep my 2013 JKU Rubicon and LS swap it for the power I wanted, or buy a stock Diesel Rubicon with the features the JL has and have a more comfortable and better performing Jeep. Also, I only had my 2013 for 18 months and had accumulated 50k miles in that time, ending up with 130k miles before I sold it. With that many miles being put on my Jeep every year, I decided to go with the diesel, as in my experience, they just don't wear out as fast. So I sold the JKU Rubicon in July of 2018 while I had some equity in it, and started waiting.

[@BarnStangz]

Mark, TodDDDD told me that it's okay to use the old fryer oil from Arby's in this JL diesel tank, or is McDonalds oil better?

[@willmorton6800]

This engine is for people who are planning on immediately upgrade to 38" or 40" tires to go off-road. This engine has the power to offset the incredible weight difference of the tires.

[@eddy5750]

What? Elaborate please.

[@willmorton6800]

@@eddy5750 More torque means running larger tires has less effect on your speed and ability for your drive train to turn those tires.

[@eddy5750]

Will Morton ok I figured, I was under the impression that the gas with the turbo put out compatible numbers in terms of power. I haven’t looked into the keeps much so I’ll take your word on it lol

[@PaulJersey]

I dunno? The Cummins, Powerstroke and Duramax are all tried and proven diesels, and they still have their issues. He has an excellent point about suspension issues. The weight and torque of a diesel prematurely wear some components. Great review.

[@superswade1]

I have to admit, when I heard about the diesel option coming, I thought it would be the coolest thing ever to have in the Gladiator. I envision a baby army truck. The extra grunt from that diesel torque may not boost ultimate towing capacity but it will make towing anything much more enjoyable. Anybody I know that goes from gas to diesel when towing always says, "Yeah now i almost forget I have a trailer back there". Also, I agree with you guys about the character of the engine matching the character of the Jeep. Now, all they need is to offer at least one Hemi V8 engine option. I am not an owner now but one day I'll probably give a Wrangler or Gladiator a try :)

[@mrbmrb-fu7og]

best reason for diesel, especially in Jeep which has a very exposed fuel tank during rear end collisions; diesel fuel is much less likely to catch fire....

[@dustinradman2579]

Biggest reason 37 in tires and Metal bumpers plus overland gear with range makes it the best option for overlanding

[@thatfatboiforu]

Would love to give one of these a try. Perfect car for a Diesel engine.

[@leviathan5207]

autobahn storming diesel estates would love to have a word with you

[@davidwebster2616]

its hard to believe they didn't do diesel before considering the wrangler's popularity.

[@ryanhie2829]

The increase in cost for the diesel certainly cancels out any gains in fuel economy. The only reason to spring for the Ecodiesel over the gas engine would be for the torque. All Wranglers are overpriced, IMO, but people will always buy them.

[@luisreviews6412]

Not a fan of Jeeps but don’t hold that against them, just can’t justify the costs. To each their own, glad Jeep is throwing it out there as an option and responding to their base... that is a plus in my book.

[@southhillfarm2795]

As soon as anyone says noisy, it's a deal breaker. I love my 2010 LR2. I fix it and keep it. still looks new. And it's quiet.

[@eperot]

Thank you for bringing Toddd back!!!

[@jsfbay1]

Please tell us the *why* of the ball joints and other extra repair costs.

[@PerformanceReviews]

Fuel economy over previous models , would be the reason for buying this. Especially if you have to drive several hundred miles to go off-roading. Think about previous Jeeps getting 14 MPG on the highway.

[@josech]

That’s Lexus GX pricing territory!

[@JoJoJoker]

That was the Greatest Car Commercial ever.

[@zzkeokizz]

I like the style of the JL but I’m not a Jeep driver. I’m a winter driver so a Jeep is way more than I need. Looks pretty though.

[@Phunker1]

Last year I had to pick between getting an MX-5 RF and a Wrangler. I don't know anyone who understood my choices, but I think you would get it.

[@FragEightyfive]

If FCA can pull this off with long term reliability I would probably consider one a few years down the road on the used market. I wanted to see a diesel jeep, and this is how it arrived. A 4 door. Not really what I was expecting. I wanted to see the return of a jeep styled pickup, and it came to us in a 4 door with a small bed. Ugh. at is the deal with modern vehicles.... I try to find the good but it is so hard. I don't expect much but it seems like so many are so far from any sort of expectation that I keep going back and looking at older vehicles because they seem so much more functional. Even the CVT... On paper what you can do is awesome, but it came to us in the Sentra and other econoboxes.

[@michaelandersson6088]

Jack, you are very likable! Mark and you got a great dynamic and makes a perfect duo! Hope to see you more often in future videos! :)

[@Sneekystick]

As a Fiat Renegade owner, I always crave Olive garden.

[@matthewdufur5489]

I have purchased new Wrangler Unlimited's and was considering a diesel but the price and unproven technology is such that I may keep my 2016 for a few more years. It has many, many hours of operation but only 35k miles. I liked the 2005, I-6, 6 speed manual more than any of my other Jeeps but it only had two doors.

[@gladdy02]

I completely agree with Savagegeese on this one. The Turbo was 4 was nice surprise when i got one from the rental lot. This car was not worth the money in the winter (which is when i got this as a rental. It was loud, horrible handling, blown around by wind, gets bad reliability reviews etc. BUT, if it were the summer, and I took the roof and doors off and cruised Colorado feeling the wind and sun, this would have provided an experience that nothing else would. To me, its not worth the money they are asking for, but to a lot of people it is, and i can't agree that.

[@08jkrubi]

The $6k surcharge for the eco diesel includes the 8-speed auto transmission. Compared to a JL with a gas engine that already has the $2k option 8-speed auto transmission, the diesel is a $4k option. It's really only a $6k option over a manual transmission JL.

[@projekt6_official]

It's really only a $3250-4500 upgrade since you have to pay $1500-2750 for the auto trans anyway on the other engines.

[@mooredann69]

"Top notch" and "transmission" should never be in the same sentence with a FCA product.

[@ay3514]

D Moore facts

[@TheTemplarnight]

ZF is considered to be one of the best in the buisness so it's fair to say the transmission is top notch.

[@ay3514]

Heck493 copy paste what other say is not good .. try it for three to 5 years then let me know how it goes

[@TheTemplarnight]

@@ay3514 my work has 7 dodge 1500's 5.7 hemi's their all about 5 years old now, and they've had no fixes needed. The office staff has 2 v6 chargers and they've had 0 issues as well and their 4 years old. so no it wasn't copy paste it was personal experience.

[@ToxicHorsePucky]

ZF wouldn’t be in a dozen different manufacturers’ cars if it wasn’t at least somewhat reliable.

[@brandonholmes112]

FIL just got his jeep stuck trying to get into the driveway this morning here in Utah. SIL came home in her VW Jetta and just pulled in no problem, guess it's a Jeep thing.

[@temur72]

It is a tire thing

[@brandonholmes112]

@@temur72 32 x11.5 BFG all terrains, you think they would out perform the all season tires on a VW...huh. Jeeps kinda suck in the snow even in 4wd that wheel base isn't helping keep em straight.

[@storejoshuprite]

@@brandonholmes112 Snow tires would though. lol.

[@rickc2102]

I've got about 4 years left out of my current trail car. Hoping a reliable diesel Jeep is proof tested by the time I go shopping.

[@christopherfeist1687]

Cooling and braking is most often the limiting factor for towing. Look at the payload on the wrangler 1k+ lb. Suspension is not the limiting factor.

[@15jwrangler]

All that torque is nice for Jeep owners who want to upgrade to 37s and not have to worry about regearing. So you’ll save 1200 there. I think this engine depends a lot what your going to be doing to your vehicle as well.

[@rbinatorr7761]

Ive got the V6 JLUR, manual, which I will keep mostly stock, so that is the most engaging for me. If I were going to build it out with heavier tires, suspension, armor, etc etc, I would look hard at the diesel

[@FawazEffects]

never take a bullet for an early technology

[@jareknowak8712]

Diesel engines are older than gas engines. Not joking.

[@CL9k24a3]

@@jareknowak8712 steam engine is oldest of the three. Your point?

[@tommy35ss]

Y'all are forgetting 2 things that come with the diesel. #1 Range. For those who use these vehicles for what they are built for, back country wheeling and exploring, the diesel offers more range without carrying extra fuel. That 30% more fuel economy equates to 30% more range in the back country. That extra 5 gallon fuel container that overlanders carry will take you ~30 more miles than with a gas engine, which is huge. #2 No regearing needed when lifting the vehicle and adding bigger tires. The amount of torque, combined with the 8 speed auto gearing means that you will not need to re-gear not just 1 axle, but 2 axles in that situation. To regear both axles you are looking at more than half the cost of that diesel upgrade, and a serious hit on fuel economy. The diesel will probably struggle less, and the fuel economy will still beat the gas engine when you add massibe 37 inch tires after that 3.5 inch lift. (edit: so for a regear cost, you are looking at $1500-$2000 for a reputable shop to do it)