2020 Toyota Avalon TRD | Lets Stop Pretending

[@thatracinglife]

TRD went all NISMO and just made it a "Lifestyle" brand now. Kind of sad.

[@VaunShiz]

Well at least the juke and sentra nismo are dead atm 😂

[@thatracinglife]

@@VaunShiz All of Nissan is dead ATM. :/

[@jonathanhear4974]

I feel like Toyota is just ditching the TRD name. They’re gonna start using the GR name for their performance cars like the Yaris, Corolla Hatch, 2022 86, Supra, etc.

[@Toyota4Life]

TRD Pro and these TRD cars are dope.

[@person.w9780]

At least NISMO has the GTR NISMO.

[@A_A_N_C_]

God I miss Turbowski. Can imagine him eyeing this monstrosity with his usual sarcastic silence. He would diss on the engine - "Oh, this is a 6 cylinder? I counted 4". Then Savagegeese would say "this is their tried and true direct and port injec-" and Turbowski would give a curt nod of acknowledgement. He would then take off that engine cover like his dog pooped in the park and he has to scoop it up in a bag. Both Mr. Goose and Turbowski would look at the underbody and make fun of the dysfunctional, ridiculous grill. A moment of mutual understanding and respect. Mr. Goose is reminded why he is friends with Turbowski in the first place. He smiles at Turbowski. Turbowski ignores Mr. Goose's smile. Finally they would both say that this is a car trying to be something it is not. I love you and I miss you Turbowski.

[@miloslogic]

I do miss him too, sincerely.

[@NipponStiqqyPaint]

This fan fic is amazing

[@rronak95]

Arman Chisty what happened to him?

[@m1abrams1776]

rronak95 after Mr. geese asked turbowski if he wanted to come take a look at the TRD Avalon he committed suicide unfortunately.

[@sulfuricanaljuice3994]

@@m1abrams1776 Understandable, godspeed to the Turbowski family

[@ppzzeedd]

Hmmm interesting... a teenager trim on an "old people's car"

[@bestthingsinceslicedrice]

Yeap its like a grandpa who had botox, fake hair and tanned skin trying to appeal to a young girl

[@ahmedp800]

I swear its just Stupid! Why can't they copy the Yaris GR? Make a Camry, Avalon, Corolla..etc GR.

[@wyw201]

General_Buttcrack _Naked You found the target market for this turd 😂

[@M4B21S88]

Lol right... I guess I “get it” in the camry but the avalon? Lol....

[@wigletron2846]

Lol I got so much sshit for saying this and the Camry trd are just riced up old peoples cars

[@tomkoetting5954]

Great review, as always. My 2019 Avalon Touring will be ready for me as soon as gently used ones hit $20k. Until then, my super-clean 2013 Avalon Limited will cart the family & clients around in quiet spaciousness. It replaced my 2004 Avalon XLS, which replaced my 1995 Avalon XLS. Buy 'em gently used, put in a killer car stereo, then road trip across America and keep 'em sparkling for the next owner.

[@thisismagacountry1318]

Waiting for a 2021 TRD to come off a single owner low mileage lease at the end of this year or a 2022 TRD next year. I'm thinking prices will tank when the Great Recession hits.

[@Venomixia]

the JBL in the new ones is wonderful

[@mikeyg9833]

@@thisismagacountry1318what’s the status?

[@drivedb7]

Toyota is using the TRD badge today like Chevy used the SS badge in the middle and late ‘00s.

[@rjhick1]

I actually like the front grill. Its way better than the Lexus GS F. I wish they would just drop the V8 NA engine in this.

[@ervin7178]

Robert Hickman yes because the v6 doesn’t have enough enough torque steer, it needs a transverse v8 and open diff

[@WavveBoi]

@@ervin7178 they c o u l d put a LSD in it. But they wouldn't sell a 55k Avalon

[@CorruptInfinityOfficial]

WAVVE MEGV yeah people wouldn’t buy a fwd camaro because asking for a v8 in this makes my brain hurt, my shitty 224hp v6 has torque steer from 2009 why would you want 300 plus ft lbs of torque with an open diff, have fun doing tire rotations in your driveway. That guy isn’t using his head, doesn’t know what he is asking for. Not to mention the transverse nightmare of the back 4 spark plugs, steering rack etc.

[@svn5994]

@@rjhick1 Yikes. Grill is cringey and a V8 in grandmas grocery getter is a no go.

[@admireinspire]

"I am just RIPPED and theres not a lot of cars I can fit into with this muscle mass" Mark I love you🤣

[@squidproquo2241]

Joshua Delahoussaye - ["I am just RIPPED and theres not a lot of cars I can fit into with this muscle mass" Mark I love you🤣 ] Rather, You hate Toyota! That's why you love Mark because you find his remark about the car derogatory enough for your satisfaction.

[@admireinspire]

@@squidproquo2241 they are ranked number 1 and number 2 in reliability across all car brands. To hate toyota you have to suspend reality pretty far. I love my subaru but if I ever buy another car itll be lexus or toyota. So take your assumption and stuff in up your gaping ass.

[@static_Tricolor_camry]

@@admireinspire Well said half of these tards aren't even real car people, you can tell they drive stock boring cars or they don't have a car at all. Toyota is the number one Brand in reliability, I'll take that any day.

[@cartere9981]

@@squidproquo2241 do you have a brain?

[@squidproquo2241]

@@cartere9981 "do you have a brain?" Have anything to say, at all?

[@reko3103]

This thing reminds me of a sleeper car. Just in reverse.

[@imrickjames7012]

Mad veetacks bro new air intake!

[@squidproquo2241]

And you remindme of a manly man, just in reverse.

[@M8143K]

@@squidproquo2241 man manly?

[@squidproquo2241]

@@M8143K If you think ^Reko^ meant "car sleeper" ... why not?

[@papichulo6516]

A ricer?

[@steve9377]

the angle of the infotainment display looks like it would glare like crazy

[@ahmedp800]

How was that abomination of gloss-black-reflective plastic sheet even approved? Toyota should know better by now not to go with gloss black, it is not premium, maybe in a showroom... Hell, it will scratch eventually and will look even worse, they don't make them out of tempered glass after-all.

[@Venomixia]

It’s actually not bad. I had one as a demo for a few weeks in the summer and it’s absolutely stunning.

[@SuperCJification]

@@ahmedp800 I'm pretty sure that plastic is the same plastic they use on the Corolla's infotainment screen. That's not a good thing IMO.

[@saman-iw9tx]

I have one and it doesn't, only little in direct sun

[@raafidk]

Ive never gotten any glare the 2 years Ive had the Avalon

[@yoochoob]

Toyota Inventory: boss, we have a huge surplus of TRD badges. Mr Toyoda: Sequoia TRD, Sienna TRD, Avalon TRD, Prius TRD, Mirai TRD....

[@dino91001]

Jim Beam prius trd lmao 😂

[@rightwingsafetysquad9872]

I'd love a Sienna TRD just on the offshoot we'd get something cool like the old mid-engine supercharged Previa mini-van.

[@redheads604]

super hyped for Yaris TRD

[@rightwingsafetysquad9872]

@@redheads604 There is a high performance GR Yaris. Looks like it's going to only be sold in Japan, Australia, and maybe SE Asia. Except for size, it's unrelated to the Mazda2 derived Yaris we get in North America, China, and Europe.

[@squidproquo2241]

Jim Beam - The original Toyota hater Not many of you's around as it seems. Oh! Wait! It is so easy to confuse you with one another.

[@Unchainedmaple888]

The lip spoiler looks so much nicer than the Camry's evil eyebrow spoiler.

[@davevolz6138]

Both are cheap plastic, unlike Shelby’s aluminum.

[@gabrielesparza4]

@@davevolz6138 aluminum aunt sexy

[@matan6737]

​@@davevolz6138disadvantage being that a shelby is a disgusting peice of shit that not only looks like it has constant resting dick face but also applies that same energy to its owners.

[@anAmishGuy]

Your grandchildren will think you're so cool if you buy this.

[@martinhuber3707]

@@23Piccolina nah they won't

[@GarrettWorcester]

Since I only see them in person maybe twice a year, part of me wants to go into Michael Jordan mode and say, "Fuck those kids. Opa wants a pickup truck anyway."

[@chrisoconnor3119]

Probably right on that!

[@tjk9263]

I have come to realize being a father of 2 children and visiting with my kids grandparents on a regular basis, nothing absolutely nothing they could do would ever make my kids think they are now cool.

[@squidproquo2241]

"Your grandchildren will think you're so cool if you buy this." And you wrote this for your hater friends to look cool in their eyes!!! Way to go man.

[@Hallowsaw]

This is actually my ideal type of car. I love styling but i litterally just need an a-b car that does not need to be fast. I want it to be comfortable and look good.

[@Yoursistersazz]

Then you would buy a 2023 Camry LE for 27G

[@Hallowsaw]

@@Yoursistersazz camry LE looks like crap and the Avalon has more features. The price thing means nothing to me when i make enough to pay for a camry in 3 months... but im not foolish to pay for depreciating things like luxury cars. A car is just a tool to me.

[@techpassion4126]

I like the looks of this along with the other big-grilled Toyotas! It looks absolutely absurd and I love it for it. Totally understand if people hate it tho, it's so weird and out of place, can't deny that! But that's the reason I like it a lot lmao

[@dchawk81]

So you bought one?

[@LoneWolfHustle]

Me too lol

[@VaunShiz]

What's the point of having so many gears when its still geared like a 5 speed

[@sparkle1234]

Clous von Well, fuel economy 😕

[@wigletron2846]

Because everyone else is doing it

[@VaunShiz]

@@sparkle1234 I think it would be fine with 5 short gears and 3 over drives lmao

[@VaunShiz]

@Sunamer Z then why bother with a auto , people hate them but a cvt would of been faster and would get the same mpg,,just have the cvt simulate short gears sonit doesn't make those weird noises

[@nallis01]

@@wigletron2846 that's exactly it. I remember when I moved from the 2007 GS 350 to the 2016 GS 350, I was so disappointed in the MPG and performance. The previous generstion, in the real world, was better on gas and for a fact a quicker car. In my 07 GS 350, it never gave me the issue of searching for gears when I wanted the power. The ratio in the dif/transmission was better. I wished I could just swap the transmission and diff from the old car. I have been working the same job for 10 yrs in the same location. So same journey. The older car gave me better gas mileage even though I was WOT more as well. Toyota/Lexus just went with the 8 just to keep up with the rivals.

[@johnmann8253]

I spent a lot of time in the interior space of my automobile.Thank you...thank you... for finally including Audio performance evaluation! Why spend hours upon hours in an automobile if it has a crap audio system . I don’t care how well it drives if it doesn’t sound good I don’t wanna be in it...... too many automobile evaluators gloss over or neglect this very important technology.

[@bluecollarben9836]

The grill looks like a test pilots face in a G force machine.

[@billymaze4733]

The massive fake grill is pure cringe.

[@drivedb7]

BlueCollarBen 98 - Or Clarkson’s in an Ariel Atom.

[@CorruptInfinityOfficial]

It’s literally worse then the Mazda 3 and 6 smile and that’s saying something haha

[@TheWwong]

You are being sooooooooo polite!

[@Dowlphin]

I saw a Corolla or Prius front a couple years ago that looked worse than en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Corolla#/media/File:2020_Toyota_Corolla_LE_standard_front,_5.25.19.jpg The best I can describe it is a mix of a ricer punk gone crazy and granny's tenth facelift.

[@karlisrubenis]

"When im T-ing off at 7AM with Bruce....We're taking the Avalon". Almost spilled my coffee :0 .

[@fhowland]

I never thought I’d see Avalon and TRD together.

[@Toyota4Life]

This combo Makes it cool car IMO just because of the fact it’s such a odd ball

[@dino91001]

Fred Howland they’re coming out with a TRD Prius so there’s that

[@freshklinki93]

This is just the perfect example of the absolute dumb mismanagement of the Toyota model lineup.

[@rightwingsafetysquad9872]

Neither did the guy who designed the Avalon.

[@RealAvus]

If the Camry TRD is a Fast n' Furious car that your parents agreed to buy FOR you, then this Avalon TRD is a Fast n' Furious car that your grandparents agreed to buy for you.

[@derekchisholm972]

Couldn’t make it through the whole video, front grille ate me at 0:41.

[@ahmedp800]

I can here it...African funeral dudes coming for you.

[@rickhunter6513]

Ahmed360 ha, I got that

[@derekchisholm972]

Ok, I’ve been through the Avalon’s digestive system, I can finally finish the video.

[@bestthingsinceslicedrice]

The TRD Camry and Avalon is aimed at buyers who think they can have a sports car and a daily driver in the same time. Sadly its just all cosmetics when you look at this car closely

[@ARentz07]

You _can_ have a sporty daily driver, though. Just, this one is too big and has an open diff... It'd be entertaining to a point, but probably no good for any _pounding around_ on back roads.

[@404nobrakes]

General_Buttcrack _Naked “when you look closely”? More like look at all. Most people buying TRDs or even Ms and AMGs will never actually drive those hard. They just want the street cred

[@M4B21S88]

AGREE WITH ALL OF YA’LL!

[@person.w9780]

How much is a G70 compared to this?

[@DodgerBlueRobert]

person fishforce if only there was a way to search for that information. With that being said, the G70 is a compact. Avalon is bordering on full-size. Two completely different segments.

[@darvaish4552]

you are one of the motor journalist that respect and love his work, quality of your work is at next level.

[@COMMANDERFOX31]

I miss the previous design of this car. It was much more appealing. The trunk wasn't sticking awkwardly like this and it had a properly sized grilled.

[@thetechlibrarian]

I honestly liked the 2012 gen

[@robertoswald1112]

I’m 6’5” and love it when reviews mention extreme legroom with cars. You save us so much trouble as the stats are simply not accurate.

[@kayakkevin]

I cannot get the word "turd" out of my mind when I see that badge

[@blipco5]

KayakKevin ...Funny thing is I'm on the toilet dropping one as I'm typing this. 👍💩

[@agenericaccount3935]

Toyota Unintended Racing Development. A subtle nod to the accelerator debacle in the last decade

[@pastorofmuppets8834]

Yep, your not the only one! My other favourite is STI which stands for sexually transmitted infection. Can't unsee that.

[@matte8441]

That’s what we nickname TRD vehicles at the Toyota shop I work at. Particularly the trucks. Better off buying an SR5 and using the money saved to do your own upgrades. I did the PDI on the first TRD Avalon we had. Not a particularly bad car but imo it’s pointless.

[@barryf5479]

Remember, the original Toyota automatic transmission was called a Toy-O-Let.

[@stephendibari5010]

LAst April I bought a 2013 Lexus ES 350 with only 30,009 miles for $17,999. I’m the 2nd owner, the original traded it in to Volvo Dealership in North NJ... (thank god, for me !). It was part of a 2 car trade in along with a high mileage BMW.. My ES350 is amazing, worth every $... the build quality and dependability is remarkable. Would i buy a $45k new Avalon ? No.. I dont buy new cars, last car i bought new was 20 yrs ago, a 2000 VW Passat. I’m happy i spent a few more thousand and bought a pre-owned 6 yr old Lexus which is virtually brand new , still smells and drives new... than a Avalon or even a Camry.

[@michaelrichards2024]

I’m having a problem with hauling my Asian girlfriend and her friends with my 911. I think the Avalon TRD will be great to haul them around while still giving them that sporty experience they’re used to. Thanks for the review!

[@killingtime8612]

Michael Richards send photo of your car and girlfriend and I will tell you if worth trading the car or not.

[@wtDrake]

Why is her being Asian relevant

[@kingtad205]

WretchedDrake asians are generally smaller

[@jareknowak8712]

Buy Tycan or Panamera.

[@drivedb7]

Michael Richards - From the looks of it, your “911” is actually a late-00s Ford Taurus. You aren’t fooling me, pal!! 😂

[@bebopredux]

"Intended purpose". I appreciate you incorporating this into your reviews. I bought my 2017 Highlander Limited in part because of your review. I knew I wasn't getting a mountain road carving Lotus. I love the Avalon. Had to rent one recently. I pretended it was an A8L. Plenty of grunt. Wonderful vehicle. I'm extremely impressed with Toyota. Especially the last 5 years. IMO, there's just no equal for the money.

[@timtresch4848]

I think the idea of Avalon/Camry TRD could have been really cool. I think if they had set up a more aggressive AWD/transmission set up with more aggressive gearing and give the engines a little something more gotten to 335-340HP out of that V6 with a nice a good launch control mode or something, but as it is its just a glorified appearance package.

[@vishwaraghavan8101]

That would just be a Lexus GS350, they don’t want to take away from their sales

[@anandavirmed578]

This guy is the most honest and down to earth car reviewer on the internet, absolutely immediately subbed

[@jackbanker4244]

I think it looks good. Hell of a lot nicer than my car.

[@kickerbeat]

I just gotta say it, premo content. That entire dialogue examining the rear seats expertly intertwined humor and useful technical information to a masterful level. You deserve limitless monetization as well as a 30 day ban, often in the same sentence.

[@rforracing]

They can't make a sports car anymore. They had to run to BMW for the Supra and Subaru for the 86.

[@carlosandleon]

doesnt make any sense for Toyota to build one at this point in time imo

[@basithph8958]

It’s called a joint venture Toyota can still make their own car look at the GR Yaris for example

[@rforracing]

@@EpicDrew15 lol you think the biggest automaker in the world needs money?

[@wyw201]

rforracing Of course they do, they need capex for those new battery plants and new automated auto plants. They have a roadmap of investments on their investor page.

[@AlaskanSnowLeopard]

It's called " maximizing profit ". Why do you think they don't update their dino lineups (Trucks and Minivan)? It's not because if it ain't broke, don't fix it. It's all about profit because folks will still buy these dino vehicles at a premium price, so more money to Toyota. Same for joint venture, it save Toyota money, and folks will still buy it because of the Toyota badges.

[@TNTTruth1]

I have a 2021 TRD and I Love mine! each to their own!

[@LimelyT]

I drove the TRD Avalon and TRD Camry. I am 6,5". The Camry had more headroom because it does not have a sunroof. I liked both cars. The Camry felt lighter on its feet. Both cars have more than enough leg room in front. I bought the TRD Camry for $700 under invoice at $29,900. MSRP was $33,848.

[@smokesgtp]

Yeah that was a good choice. I was let down by the Toyota interior quality personally, as I really wanted to like it. No memory seats was a dealbreaker unfortunately. Got an Accord Touring 2.0T for a grand under invoice. I miss the pano roof but overall I'm very happy. Fantastic car.

[@LimelyT]

@@smokesgtp I was also interested in the Accord. I hear those are faster than the TRD. I probably would have bought the Accord if I test drove it. I hear they have more room inside than the Camry.

[@smokesgtp]

@@LimelyT I'm 6'3" and 250ish and neither had as much hip room as I would love due to the high center consoles, but I got used to it quickly. The Accord had more leg room up front, and much more in the rear. I can sit behind myself comfortably. More rear headroom in the Camry though, even w the pano. The Accord had very near entry-level luxury seat comfort as well. I love the seats as a big guy. Camry was easier to get in and out of however. Accord also was quieter and drove w a sportier flair on the low profile 19's IMO. I preferred the styling too but that's subjective obviously. I was comparing XSE to Touring. Preferred the V6 at idle, preferred the 10 speed 2.0t when underway. Great transmission. Absolutely fantastic.

[@emeyer6963]

The TRD version looks ridiculous.A Limited or XSE looks better.Resale falls off a cliff and that's the only way to buy these.Great review

[@Ads7903]

You don’t need to move to Lexus for heated rear seats, almost every Kia model has heated seats in the back. ;)

[@declansdad]

Roberts Family funny thing is that my 2014 Toyota Avalon Hybrid has heated rear seats. I guess that feature doesn't fit the "sportiness" of the TRD badging.

[@Ads7903]

declansdad Weird indeed. The Avalon is beautiful, there is no doubt there! And I bet you get awesome fuel economy!

[@stuna101a]

My grandpa is going to be picking up so much trim driving this TRD Avalon. The honey's at the bingo parlor don't stand a chance. Time to buy stock in Cialis.

[@basithph8958]

The Avalon TRD is nice but I feel that the Camry TRD makes more sense And it would be nice if the transmission is geared for performance, a limited slip differential, and maybe a supercharger as an option

[@tegra_0]

The Camry makes more sense from a "Which of these should be a performance car" perspective. This is a luxury car, so the super charger (nope), limited slip (nope), performance oriented transmission (nope). Remember this is Toyota you are talking about. Getting them to put a turbo on an engine, any engine, or to put performance stuff in cars, is like pulling a tooth at the dentist.

[@memonk11]

Love that center stack that looks like it was crazy glued to the dash.

[@tollytimepropulsion5252]

You have to understand the "Midwest Mentality" of middle age buyers in the snow belt. This car is just perfect! You're dealing with a demographic that used to buy Pontiacs. These are people that admire a Charger, but understand their own fussy requirements and age limitations. Most sedan buyers are too frightened to buy a sports sedan with a maintenance schedule that will most likely swallow an IRA. These buyers need the price under 50k and it hast to be be reliable for the next 10 years. The Avalon fits the bill! The TRD package just makes it "Merica" compliant for the tailgate crowd. These people wouldn't buy a Lexus anyways. A Lexus is a "woman's car"!! A Lexus is for that guy who owns that party store and wears Tommy Bahama shirts!! Toyota knows their buyers well and they have the numbers to prove it!!

[@robertoswald1112]

Also South Florida. Avalon heaven.

[@tollytimepropulsion5252]

@@robertoswald1112 South Florida is all Snowbirds transplanted from the midwest (same people)

[@cecillambert1092]

That was a fantastic review. Logical, easy to understand, and no bias for any particular model or brand. Well done!

[@ervin7178]

But when is the TRD off road version coming??? I need something tuff

[@derekchisholm972]

Wait for the awd Avalon and then give it a 4” lift. Bam.

[@miloslogic]

@@derekchisholm972 haha, that "Bam" thing killed me xD

[@FishFind3000]

Miloš Sindjelič I just imagine the trailer park boys BAAAAAAAAMMMMMMM!!!

[@DiscoFang]

They'll call it the TRD Bam

[@coltonsanford9759]

Thank you so much for doing audio system tests.

[@funlovingJohn]

Avalon hybrid 2019 is even better. Quieter, smoother, variable ratio transmission, no belts on engine or transmission , no reverse gear. double the gas mileage and about the same get up an go without all that jerky transmission shifting.

[@aircanuck]

I was a minute away from saying "no cmment on the audio? Toyota systems usually stink, I can't believe he hasn't said anything" but nope, we got it. Great review as always.

[@lyndahammel9502]

Lol, the Avalon has certainly changed alot in 20 years. What do I love about my 2000 Avalon? It's still going strong. The interior looks like new and overall the body is in good shape. I'm not a fan of the more aggressive front on the newer Avalon but if it's as reliable as my 2000 then it's a winner imo. I would buy an Avalon for the comfort.

[@seeum2098]

ah you drive the 2000 one no wonder you don't like the aggressive end of this car. I Love Avalons but the 2000 one is the one I dislike the most. The design does not scream "avalon" at all unlike all of the other generations

[@ragweedmakesmesneeze]

I feel like this car--or a car like this--could/should make sense. For drivers who need a lot of room, comfortable family cruising, hate SUVs; and want something that feels sporty/grippy/competent in the corners. I.e. People who like to drive sporty, small cars, but need something that hauls...people and gear...well.

[@slunasaurusrex]

"That it upsets my bowels to a level that I think I'm having Braxton Hicks".........Literally choked on my coffee laughing... Amazing.

[@paweltriceps4395]

As a bigger guy (6'2") when I was looking at this car it may seem like it should fit a bigger person however in the driving seat you will constantly be banging your knees on the steering wheel when getting in and out. No matter how much I adjusted the seat and steering column I couldn't get comfortable with either my seat position or I'd be banging my knees when getting in and out.

[@lancercool1992]

Is this the same car that Toyota gave Doug to review

[@dougrobinson8602]

And he didn't nearly crash it, like the Corvette?

[@COYGunners]

Toyota Avalon, the official car of “I’m through middle age crisis but I’m an accountant”

[@PianoBlackTrimRep.]

You know what grinds my gears? In the Shoppe without Turbowski!

[@busterscrugs]

Yo, loved the interior segment in this one. The background music was excellent, as were the b-roll shots and explanations

[@tikijojo]

I'd buy a used Genesis G80 with 10k miles for less than this.

[@squidproquo2241]

Nico Jones - "I'd buy a used Genesis G80 with 10k miles for less than this." - Go for it! Who is holding you back not to do so?

[@james2042]

This all has to do with Toyota's "no more boring cars" deceleration from late 2018/early 2019. The brand has been viewed as reliable but otherwise boring and generic. Their current CEO wants to change that, which is why we got the TRD camry and avalon, TRD offroad sequoia, that special edition overlandish land cruiser, and rav4 adventure. Also for 2021 they have the "nightshade" line coming out which is a blackout package for pretty much the entire lineup. So whether you like the new products and trims or not, I give major props to them for trying to spice things up and hopefully with a bit more time and refinement, they can get these more fun oriented models just right.

[@Radke32]

Makes me think of the NASCAR edition Chevy's from the 90s.

[@Engineering240]

I just picked up a 2020 Avalon TRD. I agree with everything in this video. Every pro and con. The transmission is easily the weakest link. The 3.5 V6 has enough power (301HP) for a sedan of this weight, but the dog slow transmission is always hunting for gears and downshifting at strange times, shortly followed by upshifting again. Also, yep, the JBL system sounds terrible. Almost unacceptable. My wife has a 19 Passat Wolfsburg with the standard sound system, and it blows this JBL out of the water in clarity, dynamic response, and overall balance. I had a B&O system in my last car (Audi) and I understand you can't fairly compare the two. But this JBL is embarrassingly bad.

[@bodystomp5302]

Mauled at a petting zoo? I hope he's joking, good lord. This is an outstanding vehicle info channel.

[@davidradtke5166]

An ordinary Toyota named after a mystical island in the King Arthur sagas?! Nothing mystical about that car.

[@kalebm9302]

Hopefully they'll take the TRD name and give it some more meaning like Hyundai's N models.

[@23Piccolina]

It has meaning now....TRD? = TURD! They just forgot to add the U

[@stevechandy7348]

@@23Piccolina only a turd would be able to recognize another turd, I guess.

[@lexuslife9751]

Great video, thank you!! Personally I think the body kit on this model is pretty cool!! But my absolute favorite was the model that came out during 2008 !! I think that was the best Avalon over all and I really liked the gold wood trim that it had!!

[@pesto12601]

4:00 - ughh... those plastic buttons for the controls.... really Toyota?!?!

[@jeremijakrstic1968]

Nowadays it's still better than that touch-shit everywhere. I know it might not be the most attractive design, but sacrificing looks for the sake of practicality is a fair trade-off for me.

[@pesto12601]

@@jeremijakrstic1968 agree with the physical buttons vs touchscreen.. but you can't source some better looking knobs and buttons? It's like they have given up!

[@VaunShiz]

@@pesto12601 they look fine to me, better then the crap chevy uses lol

[@FnVir]

Get a Lexus

[@dchawk81]

I like my old truck. It has levers that thunk because you're physically moving a cable.

[@gladdy02]

I've been waiting on this review, thanks geese! I'm stuck between Avalon (non TRD) or stinger for long term purchase. This certainly helps, thanks for all you do.

[@zarfilg]

"long term purchase" def the Toyota, Like geese said these engines are bulletproof and despite Kia's recent stellar quality Toyota is a better bet. Not to mention resale value regardless of how old the car maybe. Although I do love the hatch on the Stinger.

[@gladdy02]

@@zarfilg I agree with you, but I feel like we must support the stinger or kia will cancel it.

[@agenericaccount3935]

@@gladdy02 I hope they do. Kia needs to learn it's place.

[@zarfilg]

@@agenericaccount3935 Come on. Nothing wrong with Stinger. The reason I never considered a German sports sedan is the cost/reliability problem. If ANY manufacturer can deliver the goods and address those two issues I'm all for it. I hope Kia continues on that path.

[@VaunShiz]

@@zarfilg um idk about steller quality even some magazines long term review stingers had issues, especially with the brake rotors warping over and over again

[@nateavery2875]

Is it even a TRD without a giant wing.

[@ronaldperez9606]

Man, I love your channel. And most of all, the entrance of every new video. Keep on the good work!!

[@velocity211]

damn it toyota. at least do what the other automakers are doing and cal it "trd-sport" or "trd-line" or something along those lines. leave just "TRD" for the true performance models. I guess that's what the GR branding is about nowadays.

[@augustineboafo1508]

I just love your reviews, quality graphics and the in shop segment, I love Mr Goose

[@cbruno12180]

I just dont understand why!!!leave this car alone..the segment this car is in does not require a sports model lolol

[@tegra_0]

YES!!!! Agree 10000000%. Leave it alone...!!!!

[@paulandrebeccak5680]

Long-time viewer, another great video, excellent production quality and entertaining presentation as usual! Not a big fan of added background music tracks in the interior impressions and driving segment though. Thanks for all the videos you make and keeping us entertained!

[@spook5756]

It's really no more than an appearance package, and I like it. Big, comfortable and reasonably quick.

[@nickphillips2125]

A friend of mine, bought a new 2020 Avalon - I went with him while he test drove various cars. I agree that the Avalon is a superb vehicle... but the TRD package is laughable, and, as you mentioned, obviously the TRD is catering to a younger audience. In my opinion, most mature adults will bypass the TRD in favor of a decked-out Avalon Touring. Once again, another great review... Thanks

[@TheNacropolice]

No heated seats in the back? Bro, my Mazda has that

[@andrez1142]

This isn't a premium trim, but if you want rear ass heaters then you get a Lexus

[@NipponStiqqyPaint]

Andre Z please, peasant. Buy a Bentley and be driven.

[@matthewgillie7590]

Andre Z the Lexus es350 doesn’t have heated rear seats. The limited and touring version of the Avalon have them.

[@kolyan1980]

The Miata?

[@Ianmundo]

that grille and its pair of straight down slats... a face only a mother could love, the centre console arrangement is way nicer than the Camry, except for the piano black plastic

[@zarfilg]

I love this car, living in Toronto Canada I wish there was the AWD option. You nailed it though- Great car in an awkward Toyota Line up. There really is no reason to get this between the Camry and Lexus - especially with the fact you cannot get AWD on any trim level. BTW, nice desk set up, new? Which monitor are you using?

[@jareknowak8712]

Yes, AWD is always good option on FWD platform.

[@marottajoe]

You will not need awd due to global warming.

[@chandlerhill1]

Toyota is releasing the AWD Avalon with the 2021 model year,m. It will only be offered with the 2.5 4 cyl engine.

[@seeum2098]

The AWD Avalon is coming

[@k26eg9]

The thrill wait for the 2020 sonata review is killing me!!!!

[@MrRandomcommentguy]

TRD: Toyota Rice Division

[@Kevin27182]

I don't really understand you audio charts. Could you make a video explaining that or make is so I know what is a good chart to compare

[@elitexcomputing8802]

I do love a good Avalon, but why in the hell would you put TRD on an Avalon? It just does not make sense.

[@hydroking619]

This video makes me feel like the world is normal again! Thank you so much🙌🏽🤟🏽

[@randallkelley3600]

The ridiculous styling reminds me of practically everything Pontiac made in the 1990s.

[@kellyaustin7487]

TRD and Toyota Avalon just don't mix. Overpriced for what it is. Should at least have closer to 400hp with either AWD or rear wheel drive. That said, it's a great car in it's normal trim. Still a bit pricey. Excellent review 👍🏾

[@eljoel89]

I seem to remember GM slapping SS badges on all of its cars in the late 2000's right before it lost its ass and its money. This feels similar.

[@DodgerBlueRobert]

eljoel89 that was due to the 2008 crash and them needing a government bailout. Toyota is not GM.

[@andersonrodriguez8258]

eljoel89 Toyota is not Gm

[@psnmadracer27]

Toyota's definitely not on the brink of collapse. They're just playing everything too safely IMO.

[@100SeriesLC]

Love the nod to taking the Avalon golfing at 5:19. So convincing that now I gotta get one.

[@sporkybutterz]

The Avalon makes no sense when pricing is close to the ES. They need to phase it out altogether

[@kevinhiggler2896]

Nissan Maxima is good also. Buy in June, July, August, get the last one on the lot. Or try Hertz Rent 2 Buy, one year old, 10K miles or less miles. Worth looking at to compare to Autotrader. Beware, a lot of cars at the dealer are purchased from rental companies. Which hide accidents and repairs, happened to me, so inspect the car for new panels. See if the edges of one panel are sharp vs a new car who's edges are smooth. That's how the mechanic told me my hertz 2 year old Mercedes was in an accident, new front right quarter panel. Beware.

[@NipponStiqqyPaint]

Where’s my azn big boi?!

[@WHO-xi4zp]

For the Avalon TRD’s MSRP of $42,800 you could get a mid trim Kia Stinger with the twin turbo v6.

[@chrisnas1483]

The weak point is the transmission, also for the Camry also..

[@denverbevins4052]

Another masterful review. Always a pleasure.

[@jayohhhohhh2875]

I bought a charger scatpack instead of this.

[@DodgerBlueRobert]

jayohhh ohhh good for you.

[@didafm]

Those cars dont compare at all.

[@tegra_0]

Don't let the TRD badge fool you. This is a luxury car, not a performance one. So, regarding the charger, Apples and Oranges.

[@DodgerBlueRobert]

Tegra Ehhhh, the Avalon isn’t a true luxury car. It’s a very nice Toyota. You could call it premium. But I wouldn’t call it a luxury car. The ES is a better representation of a luxury car than the Avalon. And yes, there are enough differences to distinguish the two.

[@pobster88j94]

Which will last past 100k with no issues?

[@kmzoilus2486]

this front end is NOT aggressive! Its fugly, gross, HIDEOUS... but not aggressive! It's too bad too because the rest of the car looks ok. Well ok if you like your cars slapped with a bunch of Walmart, Autozone and china ebay appearance parts.

[@zacharyparis]

Came for the S2000, stayed for the nerd.

[@timmatheson6736]

I have a 2019 Avalon Touring and I LOVE IT!

[@abcdLeeXY]

The TRD package is mainly for Uber drivers trying to look cool at the same time

[@Wild1995]

Great review. I've had similar thoughts for the last 10 years but now its much more profound. Unlike when Avalon debuted the Camry does step on it now

[@truckerrickakamanowar]

My 2015 Kia Optima EX has leather heated rear seats. C'mon Toyota....

[@ahmedp800]

Weight reduction bro. Its a "TRD" afterall...

[@truckerrickakamanowar]

@@ahmedp800 yeah.....yeah.......weight reduction 😂

[@truckerrickakamanowar]

@@ahmedp800 The TRD offroad Rav4 must be missing tow hooks for weight reduction too.

[@truckerrickakamanowar]

@@ahmedp800 All kidding aside I love the 4Runner, and If I was in the business of of printing money like the fed Id probably buy a Land Cruiser those are dope. Ive owned a 4Runner before I would and will buy again. Waiting to see what they are going to do with the Tundra also.

[@matthewgillie7590]

Rhino Willy's the limited and touring have heated rear seats, this one is based off of the xse.

[@seeum2098]

You said the TRD doesn't add anything to the car? That's because you're driving in a straight line. The handling is very different compared to the regular models. It's not trying to be a SPORTY Car it's a luxury Car with some performance qualities. That's what the buyers for this car are looking for. The first Gen that came out was a 3.0 v6 200HP it was really well for its time compared with mercedes/ bmws and audis. A 95 bmw 525 is a 2.5 6 cyl. 189hp. It's going back to its roots which i'm glad they're finally doing.

[@seeum2098]

Also Don't forget this is THE FIRST AVALON TRD. The next few years or next model im sure they will upgrade the transmission and other areas to upgrade performance. You should know this. Hell yeah the audio is boomy That's what we want!

[@fusionsportdaily1650]

The old Avalons were ugly. I have never liked them. This Avalon is SEXY!

[@ConstantinSPurcea]

TRD for me is rev limiter at 7.5/8K and like... BEAMS 2L 3S-GE, that's TRD. 3L 2JZ-GTE, 1989 4L 1UZ-FE. That's TRD and the respective cars.