I have never driven a Porsche, can't afford to. But I am equally all for manuals and generally get upset that the more lucky ones may have a hand in making it disappear for the ones that still want to make the dream come true and finally have the chance to drive or even own such a masterpiece. So thank you for fighting for it and making this video so we can feel with you!
@tjabaley3 жыл бұрын
I passed on a 991 manual last year. Still kicking myself Hope the carerra t will be manual. Great video.
@000GunterGabriel0003 жыл бұрын
10% here. 992 C4S Manual, no Clunkiness. 👌🏻
@9WERKSTV3 жыл бұрын
Excellent!
@BrandonOConnorfit3 жыл бұрын
I don’t care how good PDK is. I cannot imagine buying a 911 without a manual transmission
@HawkMillFarm3 жыл бұрын
I used to think that until I got dodgy knees, still miss my old one but couldn’t drive it in traffic anymore ☹️.
@francisflorez55813 жыл бұрын
Good for you PDKs are great Fast and Boring. Emphasis on boring.
@carreralicious3 жыл бұрын
Me neither. Won’t buy another 911 unless it has a manual.
@XB100013 жыл бұрын
Yes! Exactly!
@XB100013 жыл бұрын
@@HawkMillFarm well, that's a particular (and very understandable) situation.
@alister_grigg3 жыл бұрын
Great summary, I'm at 2700 miles in my manual 992 2S and loving every one of those miles.
@9WERKSTV3 жыл бұрын
Good to hear, Alister! Enjoy.
@andrewhurstcars3 жыл бұрын
Very nice. What colour did you go for?
@alister_grigg3 жыл бұрын
@@andrewhurstcars white. Nothing fancy.
@joevazquez94053 жыл бұрын
I ordered my S with manual two months ago... still waiting for it !
@Nord_Mann3 жыл бұрын
And here we go! F1 from Bahrain and That 911-guy🥇👌🏻❤️
@9WERKSTV3 жыл бұрын
Love this.
@bakerbk36963 жыл бұрын
Love it. And love the short history 👍🏻👌🏻
@alb309610 ай бұрын
Only from a view perspective it is so much more rewarding to see that nice stick on the central cockpit, I Madame the wrong choice with that fabulous gear box.
@scottshand85593 жыл бұрын
Excellent video Lee! I also cannot currently fathom having a Carrera without a manual transmission, at least not until I'm about 80 years old or so...and maybe not even then!
@ART1-n7w Жыл бұрын
Fortunate enough to have taken delivery of new 992 4gts manual. It is so much better than my previous PDK models; more engaging and fun to drive. I wish I had made the change sooner.
@iKone9113 жыл бұрын
Most of the Carrera T in PDK were ordered that way by Dealers. I'm fairly certain that most custom ordered ones went with 7MT. Me included. ;)
@redskytitan3 жыл бұрын
I just ordered a 992 Targa 4S with 7MT, super excited about it!
@alv82532 жыл бұрын
And i just ordered my 992 Carrera 2S in 7MT as well. We're doing our part!
@hotdawwgman3 жыл бұрын
Another great video Lee. Glad to see Porsche has fixed this clunking issue!
@ambersykes14193 жыл бұрын
Good video. Thanks for taking the time to make it and to go through the history part too.
@9WERKSTV3 жыл бұрын
Cheers Amber! Comments like that make it all worth it.
@iimiboy3 жыл бұрын
@@9WERKSTV also she's very pretty 😁
@JDSFLA3 жыл бұрын
I don't have a Porsche, but I do have a Chevrolet SS (A.K.A Holden Commodore SS-V, A.K.A. Vauxhall VXR8) with a Tremec TR6060 6-speed manual. Only way to go.
@Rennthusiast3 жыл бұрын
Great video and channel. I recently polled my viewers and asked them if they would rather have a manual or PDK. Only 21% of respondents said PDK. “God save the manuals!” Stick shift only for me personally as well. Keep it coming. 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
@9WERKSTV3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the kind words. Great to see love for the manual is alive and well. It seems choice when speccing comes down to practicality, which suggests more are using their 992 as a daily - awesome!
@nateisright3 жыл бұрын
I don’t understand why Porsche released the stick shift version in the S rather than the base. At a certain power level, the PDK makes a lot of sense. The base engine is powerful but doesn’t overwhelm. The stick shift encourages the driver to wring the performance out of engine and therefore seems more a natural pairing with the base car.
@midknight Жыл бұрын
Logic is sound
@Uferizer9 ай бұрын
So they can sell the Carrera T now 😅
@jetdriver7473 жыл бұрын
Great video, enjoyed that. Porsche just keep on delivering great road cars. I ordered my 997 Turbo with a manual gearbox back in 2008. Great memories.
@9WERKSTV3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@MrSchn3ll3 жыл бұрын
Further confirming my purchase for the 991.2 Carrera T. These cars a wildly underappreciated, but I suspect not for long. My car only weighs 3,050lbs with a few options.
@cowanscott90473 жыл бұрын
watched your video many times and after having a 991.2 C2S in pdk have opted for a manual 992 GTS .. PDK as good as it is frustrated me.. the aggressive kickdown was my major gripe when overtaking.. the simplicity of a manual is key. great review!!
@davonpointer23103 жыл бұрын
Manual every time for me. Cheers Lee
@liamtree12503 жыл бұрын
amazing content, one day i hope to own a manual 911
@stephen98213 жыл бұрын
Enjoying my 992 targa manual, such engagement. My first 911. Only comment is that the gear linkages are audible with the roof down on some changes...
@ferdinandbardamu39453 жыл бұрын
8:50 - sports exhaust is not included with the manual transmission.
@alizierny3 жыл бұрын
I was going to point this out :)
@cosminmihu99633 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately the third pedal is vanishing, I work in automotive engineering. It actually started pretty recently in the EU, about 10 years or so, technology has finally caught up to European customer demand. Thankfully proper hot hatches are still offered with manual shifting, I've tried many autos from dual clutch to the 8 speed ZF, can't enjoy any of them. Manually shifting makes even a dull drive enjoyable.
@simono6520 Жыл бұрын
Nice review - Just ordered a manual T and think it might be the attainable drivers 911. Grandmother and kids refused to be sold to get a GT car.
@mp51253 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks for the perspective. I have a 992 C2S manual on order, hopefully Covid doesn’t destroy that as well. Again, great video. Nothing against the PDK, it is spectacular, but I’m a middle aged guy, not a race car driver and the manual is about how it makes you feel
@9WERKSTV3 жыл бұрын
Great to hear you'll be in the 10%! Agreed, as with any driving outside of a race track, it's all about emotion.
@peterpoppe48553 жыл бұрын
@@9WERKSTV : with the purchase of M Patel were up to 10,1 % now. :-)
@johnmclaughlin16883 жыл бұрын
997 driver here. Gotta say your Little Irish is the best looking 996 I’ve seen. Great!
@9WERKSTV3 жыл бұрын
Thanks John, I appreciate that!
@jasjeetsuri3 жыл бұрын
991.1 C2S 7spd MT here!
@jmattcarrasco3 жыл бұрын
Don't worry...the manual will return in the base Carrera...T when it is released.
@Nord_Mann3 жыл бұрын
Hope so
@9WERKSTV3 жыл бұрын
Let's hope so.
@KUROSHURA3 жыл бұрын
Is this just in the UK? I’d love a base Carrera 4 in the United States.
@johnbris53 жыл бұрын
Very interesting review. Thanks for the history. I have owned a manual 911 for 17 years and still enjoy it. I do believe however, that the 992 manual is an afterthought on the part of Porsche. The gear change surround does not fit the rest of the centre console and there's a cupholder right where your elbow would be when changing gear!
@alv82532 жыл бұрын
I do however think the console fills out and looks better with the 7MT, and although i agree with the cupholder comment, you can replace that with the flush tray pocket that's included.
@Superbustr Жыл бұрын
My prediction is that manual 991 and 992 generation 911 cars with a manual will be worth anywhere from double to three times the value of pdk transmission cars based mostly upon the rarity.
@obi-wankenobi71603 жыл бұрын
I love my 991.2 7spd Carrera, and it came w/o sport chrono so I am always doing the throttle blips/ heel toe myself no matter what mode I am in! I think they shortened the gear stick itself like they did in the Carrera T but not many other changes. I did test drive a 991.1 7 spd and it was not near as good as the 991.2 even though it is the same gear box. Mine is also my daily!
@9WERKSTV3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the feedback on your own experiences, the 991.2 does offer an improve over 991.1.
@taforth3 жыл бұрын
Great background of the manual trans in the 911 - just enough info without any droning 😉!
@9WERKSTV3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Terry.
@markjurczyk3 жыл бұрын
Always great reviews , thank you !
@arvmamuad3 жыл бұрын
Agree with that, since mostly that would buy a stick are hardcore enthusiast, at least porsche should put an option to disable it on sport and sport plus.
@pritamhajong36813 жыл бұрын
Real man drives manual 💪🏼
@andrewdavis62263 жыл бұрын
Great film, very informative #savethemanual
@modspell3 жыл бұрын
NOW I love the 992.
@9WERKSTV3 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@papajimg9238 Жыл бұрын
Great video and review!! How about the gear ratios? Are they "annoyingly" long (like on the GT4 for instance)?
@Cardroid3 жыл бұрын
Well done., really enjoyed the review!
@9WERKSTV3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@nicolaasvandenberg40233 жыл бұрын
Great video! Very informative
@kanon08533 жыл бұрын
Great vid man, 👍🏼
@9WERKSTV3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@aurorajones84813 жыл бұрын
10:00 I agree. In sport it should be disabled or at the very least an option to do so. I wonder how much you can change with an ECU update?
@stephenb41643 жыл бұрын
Great video and I have subscribed. Stephen
@pbuckler75673 жыл бұрын
Excellent review
@9WERKSTV3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@f430ferrari53 жыл бұрын
Having 5 freakin slots for upshifts is just ridiculous. R, 1st, 3rd, 5th, 7th. 😂 There is even a vid with the Carrera GT that only has 6 gears and the driver said he mistakenly shifted into 5th vs 3rd. I think Porsche has one of the best manual shifters too pertaining to their 6 speed but some have complained that the early version of their 7 speed gates were just too close together. I still have my 6 speed 3 pedal E46 M3. It’s good enough for me to satisfy my rowing through the gears. I don’t recall ever shifting into the wrong gear either. My F430 is F1 and it shifts fast enough too. I don’t like Ferrari’s ball shifter click gate. Many have issues going through the gears and 1st to 2nd is often difficult to engage.
@HawkMillFarm3 жыл бұрын
Nice review. Stick shift makes even more of a nonsense of the central cup holder, what were Porsche thinking about with that!
@9WERKSTV3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! And agreed, though the 991's solution of putting it over the PCM unit was equally as silly. Unfortunately many press cars I have had have acquired a coffee-scented centre console.
@Wooooosaaaaaa3 жыл бұрын
Great video! What watch are you wearing?
@csteger12013 жыл бұрын
Spot on
@ferdinandbardamu39453 жыл бұрын
Prepare for a 992 Carrera T with the base engine, the mechanical LSD, the manual gearbox and some cosmetic stuff included for £90K.
@paulbarsa60353 жыл бұрын
Can you comment? That looks like a Gentian Blue with the Iceland Green and Black interior. What did you think of that combo. Unfortunately Porsche doesn’t offer the chalk interior with black only Grey. So for a black dash and light seat you have to get Iceland. In some shots it looked green, others quite light.
@aurorajones84813 жыл бұрын
12:00 We all say that. And I am right there beside you SAYING that because gosh i feel its true however... If they did do that it would take away from the S sales which its the only reason i upgraded to the S was for the manual. All they would do is move sales from the S to the base equating to a lower profit for the brand. I do not think any new buyers would hop on because its still so damn expensive. This is not a Supra even in base guise, its 100k+ US. No no what they have done is smart. Even tho id love a base manual.
@andrewward70423 жыл бұрын
I haven't driven an 992 but I love my manual 991.1. I do not find the gearchange "clunky".
@modspell3 жыл бұрын
Me neither.
@9WERKSTV3 жыл бұрын
Lucky you, Andrew! How many miles has your car done? The press cars I drove at the time of release were all on baby mileage, perhaps it loosens up over time.
@andrewward70423 жыл бұрын
@@9WERKSTV 60k. :-)
@9WERKSTV3 жыл бұрын
@@andrewward7042 Great mileage! Keenly driven, well done. I can only (and will ever only) go from my own experiences, and report what I find. Encouraging to know with more miles on the gearbox improves.
@marcvallon34673 жыл бұрын
Please save the manual gearboxes!!!!
@gerardmcmillan85913 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@lloydgriffiths18473 жыл бұрын
The only thing is, you are doing 80 mph at the top of redline in 2nd gear! Meaning in the UK, there’s almost nowhere to wind it out, other than that, the manual is the better option for the best driving experience.
@richardbower87073 жыл бұрын
Carrera with a manual ... are they saving it for the 992 T ?
@9WERKSTV3 жыл бұрын
I'd speculate so.
@vanbrabant67912 жыл бұрын
Allein perfekt ist gut genug: Handschaltung & frei saugender Motor.
@francisflorez55813 жыл бұрын
Love the 7 speed excellent manual history review of the 911. I disagree with you about the 3 pedals available at the base level. It should be a premium making the vehicle more valuable especially at second sale.
@9WERKSTV3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! And it's good to disagree… life would be boring otherwise.
@psysesto25 Жыл бұрын
Is it hard doing it with the left hand? As a weekend car could be fun, but I drive a manual as a daily car. Can't imagine doing it with my left hand
@PatrickWDwyer3 жыл бұрын
The issue is probably that most people that want to buy the manual are buying the cars used. I can’t afford a brand new Porsche but when I buy one used it will certainly be a manual
@jacksonlandry47973 жыл бұрын
Hey how is that interior specd? The colors contrast really well
@steveelkes98413 жыл бұрын
Silly question but what is the watch your wearing ??
@vladmihai3062 жыл бұрын
i want this on my octavia :))
@cpandsooz3 жыл бұрын
Is Sports Exhaust thrown in with the manual did you say then?
@alexmail123 Жыл бұрын
how to engage 7th gear?
@philnelson26073 жыл бұрын
Great vid as ever Lee. Unfortunately I’m afraid I’ll never have the money for a 991 or 2 so I’ll stick with my beautifully analogue 996.1 Interesting to hear if you have a short shift kit on your 996 Lee? 🤔 I believe the GT3 SSK is good or even just a 997 version for a bit more precision? I don’t want that clunkiness just nice precise shifting. What have people gone for? 🤔
@dom243633 жыл бұрын
I just had the 997 SSK shifter fitted to my 996. Brilliant upgrade. It’s like a rifle bolt.
@9WERKSTV3 жыл бұрын
I do indeed have the Porsche short shift kit, it's a lovely throw, very precise (once warm).
@philnelson26073 жыл бұрын
@@dom24363 think it’s definitely going to have to be done and was looking at 996 GT3 or 997 SSK Thanks fir the reply 👍🏼
@philnelson26073 жыл бұрын
@@9WERKSTV Thanks Lee, I’d heard that it can be clunky till warm. You on the 997 or 996 GT3 kit or different one?
@johnadams29333 жыл бұрын
Do you have to spec sport chrono to havecrev match on the manual?
@Nord_Mann3 жыл бұрын
SC is included when opting for manual 992
@9WERKSTV3 жыл бұрын
What Nord Mann said!
@JR_harlow3 жыл бұрын
Was that a standard jetta they used for the interior camera shots ?!? Why would you do that
@nandrarazvan8949 Жыл бұрын
What watch is that mate?
@akshaykaylaser9609 Жыл бұрын
Given that a modern 911 is a completely different vehicle compared to the classic 911s, does having a manual modern 911 really provide the mechanical satisfaction of the classic models?
@gsd4me003 жыл бұрын
Porsche would no way be giving away transmissions, and the cost of the PDK would, of course, be factored into the asking price. Anyone buying new would be mad to not negotiate a sizeable discount if buying a new car.
@Montcoffer3 жыл бұрын
My 991.1 (2015) manual has a really strong centering spring action, something that does bug me a bit, although I'm used to it after 5 years! What's the 992 like?
@9WERKSTV3 жыл бұрын
Yes I always struggled with that on the 991.1. On the 992 it's dialled right down, which helps for a freer shift when selecting gears.
@willscurran3 жыл бұрын
While there are still a loud minority who want manuals in modern daily drivers, more drivers want the PDK. Porsche is not leaving money on the table ;)
@niklaspernelind7683 жыл бұрын
So how is the gearing on this? Manual Porsches like the gt4 is getting alot of criticism for it being so long..
@JacesOwnWorld3 жыл бұрын
I’m telling you guys right now. If you want a car that’s going to go up in value in the next 10-15 years, buy a sporty car with a manual transmission right now! Automatics have saturated the market, due to demand, and manuals are getting rarer and rarer with every year that passes by. There are still a lot of people (aged 25+) who grew up with manuals, and when these people become older, and are looking for a mid-life-crisis car, they’re going to reminisce about the good old days driving a manual, and will start paying good money to have those memories back. Get a manual now!
@alejandromaclean36663 жыл бұрын
What is best ? C2 or C4 ?
@shaheenevans3 жыл бұрын
What is the gearing like Lee?
@9WERKSTV3 жыл бұрын
Same as the 991, Shaheen. 7th is more of an old-school overdrive for the motorway, it's super long, otherwise ratios 1-6 will be fairly familiar to 911 owners.
@peterhudson40703 жыл бұрын
Spare a thought for Australian enthusiasts - manual will not reach our shores at all, except for the GT cars! Hopefully the Carrera T will be available in manual form in Australia, but I’d prefer a manual Carrera S. It’s a bit sad not to have the same choice as other markets, especially when the price of a 911 here is close to double what it is in the USA and UK.
@9WERKSTV3 жыл бұрын
Wow! I did not know that, I'm sorry to hear that Peter. Has Porsche given a reason for that?
@jordipi76523 жыл бұрын
With the manual shift you can not put anything in the cup holder.
@east-saxon3 жыл бұрын
Have driven both. PDK wins hands down in every respect. Faster, more efficient and frees you up to enjoy driving the car without having to use arm and leg muscles to inefficiently go through the gears. Why anyone would want to install engineering from the first half of the last century in a technological masterpiece like the 992 is beyond me (and most 992 buyers).
@pg2053 жыл бұрын
Will worth 50% more in 10 years, compared against the PDK.
@attilazsigmond99653 жыл бұрын
I bet it’s lighter then my ‘04 GT3 box 🤣🤣
@9WERKSTV3 жыл бұрын
Haha! It most definitely is!
@frankly51713 жыл бұрын
I prefer the PDK for the same reason I like ABS, pasm, traction control and torque vectoring and I am sick and tired of all those so called enthusiasts raving about the manual. And I have driven some of the finest manuals ever made including the original NSX and the Honda S2000. My 2021 992 CS in GT silver is almost here...with PDK.
@9WERKSTV3 жыл бұрын
Horses for courses. Sounds like you've got the right car for you. Enjoy!
@kramnam47163 жыл бұрын
That’s a big knob.
@allanlai_3 жыл бұрын
If the shifting action is too smooth or too easy, does it make it less rewarding?
@9WERKSTV3 жыл бұрын
Good question! No is my answer, rather it should make it more rewarding by offering better engagement.
@akankshadash7129 Жыл бұрын
Porsche 911 or any sports car without a manual transmission sounds lame AF
@Rd.b3 жыл бұрын
A real driver focussed car 100% needs a manual transmission. “Ein echtes fahrerorientiertes auto benötigt zu 100% ein Schaltgetriebe”. God bless the manual gearbox!
@benfidar3 жыл бұрын
wonderful. Though, shame about it being ugly.
@c4a5m33 жыл бұрын
Part of the problem is that you can't get the manual in the base cars.
@davidwills31073 жыл бұрын
Manual is obviously the sweet spot, but doesn’t anyone think these cars are just too big now in comparison to the older cars.
@QuietStormX3 жыл бұрын
I only drive manuals. If I were to buy a 911 it will have a Manual. Why I have no interest in the 911 Turbo..
@gerardmcmillan85913 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but I still want that Turbo S......🤣
@Senna-xi1gr3 жыл бұрын
Even Jaguar don’t offer the re skinned F type in manual! This is not the USA it’s the bloody UK with thousands of B roads! Come on guys stop spoiling our fun & if you want our hard earned cash then give us the options. All my cars & bikes are manual because I love driving.
@herme993 жыл бұрын
Funny, it almost looks like an aftermarket add on
@TheBurnAlive3 жыл бұрын
Sorry , but you don't need 7 gears when you only allowed 100 km/h !
@tonymcflattie24503 жыл бұрын
So I don’t have autoblip on normal driving mode? Nonsense! I want the blipper in all modes and all times, even with the esc off.
@hollowaysteve3 жыл бұрын
Learn how to use a manual gearbox and do it yourself
@tonymcflattie24503 жыл бұрын
@@hollowaysteve this is supposed to be luxury sport, not a peasant mobile. Car do some of that heavy lifting for me.
@hollowaysteve3 жыл бұрын
@@tonymcflattie2450 PDK for you then.
@tonymcflattie24503 жыл бұрын
@@hollowaysteve agreed. The nice thing about my 981 gt4 is the sport button independently turns the blipper on or off.
@hollowaysteve3 жыл бұрын
@@tonymcflattie2450 For sure, but this is all about the manual and TBH, I don't want auto blipping on a manual car. There's no point as it takes away from the interaction, and frankly, if one has to have auto blip on a manual then they've made the wrong choice of gearbox.
@ferdinandbardamu39453 жыл бұрын
In America the manual is way more popular.
@aurorajones84813 жыл бұрын
Shame on you guys. Shame on us too but at least Americans have a much higher take rate than Europe for the manual. And you guys build the best cars, it makes no sense. I just ordered a 992 and im beyond excited i could pee. I wont get it till Nov. BOO. Its a manual tho. Muahaha...