Saw 2 - An Impossibly Bad Game

[@knightwalkersmith2805]

Maybe John Kramer made this game so we can appreciate life and go outside

[@poncki181]

I wanna play a game, you spent your life playing video games disconnecting yourself from reality, wishing to be in another world all while wasting your potential, now you have 60 seconds before the bombs surroundings this room explode in order to survive you must do the most difficult task you've had to face, a task you've been avoiding your entire life. You must go outside and touch grass. The clock is ticking.

[@long_dennis]

@@poncki181(insert Hello Zepp here)

[@aaronatkinson177]

That's the only lesson john kramer always tried to teach people

[@ThePhantomSafetyPin]

Ohhhhh so that's all John Kramer really wants you to do by saying "cherish your life". He means "go touch grass."

[@SlickA10Homepage]

I wanna play a game You spend countless hours rewatching Saw films and 4 hour video analysis of the Saw franchise. You seem to have lost an appreciation for life, and gained a lust for my games. You have failed to see my vision, so I bring you this challenge: Play Saw II, the video game, for the Xbox 360, until you get the uncontrollable urge to smash your controller. Once you’ve reached your boiling point, I implore you to go outside and touch grass. Let the games begin.

[@MrWestNileVirus]

9:25 I like how we can actually hear you clapping your hands together out of sheer frustration.

[@SpyroTek]

Like an angry sister.

[@Hepheat75]

Jigsaw: "I want to play a game." Me after playing this game: "This was not the game I was expecting."

[@guidofiorentino6588]

Are we NOT gonna talk about that his photos at 12:18 are just screenshots of the character model??? EVEN SOME OF THEM ARE T-POSING

[@geckoguy7392]

The thing is, they could've actually made a really solid horror game if they just put effort in it

[@Chaud31423]

Someone could make a Saw-like game that uses psychological videogame mechanics. And since the only thing valuable to a player is Time Spent, you could threaten two opposing players with their save file being deleted, or something.

[@DogLoverMusic]

In my head that sounds like a pretty damn good idea if it was pulled off right.

[@bigkalacas]

He had shoes in the first part thats why the glass didn't hurt him

[@diegohdz4909]

Yeah honestly felt like he just wanted to complain its such a simple observation

[@slimittRL]

@@diegohdz4909I mean even then the game still sucks

[@drhentai]

@@slimittRLbruh

[@scoobydoo3217]

The transition flashes fucking hurt my eyes so fucking bad

[@Rc3_Vinny]

Was looking for this comment

[@lttgames4456]

ITS SAW THATS WHAT THE SERIES DOES BEST!

[@d0llst4r]

Literally like wtf

[@dmitrysoloviev4061]

About the trap flashbacks I can justify it by saying that Campbell was just imagining for what the traps were actually made.

[@krypticstormy]

yeah everyone literally letting this simple common sense statement fly over their tiny brains

[@atheistreindeer4204]

@@krypticstormythat was my understanding too

[@db.676]

I still remember till this day my cousin told me to download this game as he said it was fun then we got up to the part where you cut the eye, then next thing you know my parents walk in and start shouting at us while i begin to cry🤣 Good times bruh

[@geckoguy7392]

Why did you cry? Lmao

[@db.676]

@@geckoguy7392 my dad was shouting about how the game can infect your brain to start doing stuff like that then I got scared🤣

[@totesmcgoats7094]

@@db.676 That would only happen if you're braindead.

[@KarmicID]

@@db.676 parents be like

[@TovenDo.O.Video-]

@db.676 Least fear mongering parent

[@chanelplays4316]

1:40 this lois griffin ahh fit

[@jaimedalsegno]

😭😭😭

[@Windwalker88]

When the guy ran in the elevator shaft i laughed so hard. It looked like a saw parody skit

[@SorakaOTP462]

I actually played this game. I didn't really realize how big of a garbage this game is.

[@terrencepoinsett4169]

It was fun... only an idiot would've expected a whole lot from it. It's a MOVIE GAME

[@JakeyT1391]

@@terrencepoinsett4169 considering the first one was decent id expect the second one to be just as good if not better. that's bros complaints shrimp

[@terrencepoinsett4169]

@jaketorres2388 LOL and that's where your expectations got you... ended up disappointed.

[@R3alfizon]

It’s not trash ur just bad

[@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470]

​@terrencepoinsett4169 Oh yeah the game was super fun with its janky quick time event "combat" and repetitive puzzles. People like you would be entertained by paint drying. I should jingle some keys in front of you. You would call it a masterpiece. Instant 10/10 super fun.

[@G_IA_M]

11:25 the funniest part about the qte fights is that those scenes softlock the game if you enter them using an empty gun, so now you have to watch them staring at each other menacingly with intense music in the background until you close the game

[@FookMi69]

3:39 Why did he run into a hole that obviously leads to his death? Is he stupid?

[@The_Bird.]

Why is man commenting under a saw video? Is he stupid?

[@Aly-oh7ub]

Is there a lore reason?

[@TheRealWalterClements]

Ark Ham Aslume referfrance?

[@thomassantiago629]

Please and I mean please make a part 2 to this I was just dying the whole time

[@lissanderknight6567]

2:20 - Actually Campbell wears shoes so he doesn't recieve any damage

[@ligmaballs8266]

it seems like at 7:50 they just couldnt fix the npc getting a fast headstart and just rolled with it

[@thenightmare2495]

Ok there's something I wanna point out, the reason Campbell doesn't take damage from the glass on the floor is because he's actually wearing shoes, I guess you didn't notice when filming, ps despite the hate both saw games get personally I love both of them

[@zombieponcho]

I feel like a Telltale saw game would have been great, or at least fun. It always surprised me how terrible the second saw game managed to be. Not that the first one was a gem lol.

[@grooorglaserdeth8823]

Definitely an interesting idea, especially because in video games you can do things that movies can't. Having the player's choices influence the progression and outcome of the game is very fitting for the SAW-franchise

[@RitzMalheur]

Yeah, no, I would NOT have reccomended this game. Having loved the first game to the point I gave you tips... I cannot bring myself to reccomended this game because of the poor gameplay, regardless if you like the Saw/continuity.

[@DonPonciano]

“Your final challenge complete this game” Ahhhh hell naw, yo ass tweaking jigsaw

[@hittheglizzy7337]

I died laughing when you flipped off the cover

[@carmelo6546]

Both saw games will forever be perfect to me

[@angelicarojas2129]

Me to

[@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470]

I cannot on gods green earth understand how this game could be considered perfect. But I guess we all got our own opinions.

[@carmelo6546]

@@snnnaaaaaakeeeee4470 perfect to me. They are not perfect games

[@tarekcat07]

They're literally just sh!tposts

[@asurvivor3846]

😂😂😂😂😂 This is Hilarious, it's clear that the people behind this game didn't watch any of the movies 😂😂😂😂

[@dressionep]

YES IVE BEEN ASKING FOR THIS FOREVER!! YAAAY THANKS!

[@solrachernandez3389]

No matter what the creators of the games have said they are not canon to the movies Tapp f***ing died in the first film. He was shot in the chest and died Zepp stuck around long enough to see it happen. There was nobody in the tunnels who could've save Tapp. There's also the Full Disclosure Documentary from the Saw 2 DVD. In it the newscaster says that Tapp and Zepp were never found. The game takes place a few months after the first movie and the second took place before the second movie. In other words the video game aren't canon at all.

[@lerdog]

Bro, we know the games are not canon to the movies. He strictly refers to the timeline of the games when talking about Tapp.

[@solrachernandez3389]

@@lerdog I'm aware what I said above is for the people out there who will say the games are canon. I've encountered people before who say that and it annoys me to no end. Tapps body is the one we see in Saw 2 aka the replacement for Adam. Yes I'm one of the people who believe Adam is still alive there are so many clues supporting that

[@Frank074]

​@@solrachernandez3389Hell no! 😂 Adam is dead.

[@solrachernandez3389]

@@Frank074 considering the corpse in Saw 2 is different no he's not. Tapps body was never seen in any of the later movies when down in the tunnels. We know that Zepp Killed Tapp not far from the bathroom game. It could've been moved also look at the corpse in Saw 2 Zepps corpse still had some of his facial features despite rotting but Adam looks entirely different and he died after Zepp. Also the chain was on the wrong foot this shit honestly wouldn't bother me as much if they had fixed the error when we see the corpse again in Saw 7 and Saw X when we revisit the bathroom. Fixing the error would've convinced me that he was actually dead but there's so many stuff that hints to Adam being alive. It seems so damn unlikely that John didn't leave Adam something to save his own life. Throughout the franchise we see John giving his victims a chance at survival and Adam got nothing. The hacksaw wasn't an escape at all it was but if you look at the tiles that surround the bathtub you can see some sort of dust. It wasn't dust it was cement powder it's so damn likely that there was something hidden for Adam

[@RitzMalheur]

They ARE canon, but kind of like their own timeline/universe. For example, The Walking Dead TV universes. Until you have a moment where the characters directly cross over, the series can be either seperate entirely or parallel (both happen, but never meet). Like, it's POSSIBLE for a Game character to show up in the TV show, but if it hasn't happened, then the connection hasn't been established. Or, how Tapp and Amanda are in Dead by Daylight. They are OBJECTIVELY the same characters, but they have made their own timeline almost by being transported to the game. The Saw games ARE canon, but until the movies reference them directly, it's sort of their own timeline, using the first movie as a base. They don't necessarily have to be connected.

[@Terminal_Apotos]

Gotta love Shovelware PS3/360 Era Games. Choppy Framerates, Screen tearing, Low Quality Models & Textures, Janky Animations, it’s all here!

[@tony_dogs]

How is this shovelware?

[@softandwet7584]

@@tony_dogs its a low quality game thats flipping anothing games assets and engines and using a recognisable brand to carry its sales. Its shovelware

[@nixo4108]

9:50 the quick time event isn't to stop the trap it's to dodge it

[@Haykace]

Noone noticed how one of the photos on the wall was of micheal Tposing?

[@micheal4526]

3:31 it’s dark and that mask has poor visibility, your complaints imply you’d not do the exact same thing when you’re panicking because you were kidnapped and put in a death trap

[@bilikaidis3328]

Final part of the first game?

[@RitzMalheur]

Same. I want to hear his opinions on the different endings, especially because one of them is "canon".

[@skeepboppin]

There are full lets plays of both Saw games on the Super Beard Bros channel, definitely my favorite way to watch this absolute abortion of a game series 😂

[@d0llst4r]

Dude this game has so many flashing lights dear god. Someone needs to drop an altered version where there’s no flashing so I don’t contract epilepsy while watching play throughs.

[@xonaclan7317]

I actually liked this game, I think I got it for my birthday a few months after it released and I was like 14/15 and I 100% achievemented it like I did with the first game. I really liked the plot twist at the end where the main character would only survive if the false protagonist at the start chose to sacrifice himself. The combat was 100% dreadful though. I'm probably in the minority for liking it though since I also enjoyed all the Saw movies when I first watched them and I think most people think it gets awful after the first one lmao.

[@Spectreffex]

I think the trap QTE makes way more sense in this 2nd game compared to the 1st game. How did Tapp magically stop the trap from activating? In the 2nd game, the QTE acts more like a dodge mechanic. If you press the QTEs in time, your character notices the trap and is able to dodge it in time. The 1st game having the trap magically deactivate made less sense to me personally

[@DangItsBoomhauer]

The shotgun carousel part took me so long and I only beat it after doing the same thing I did the other 40 times (this time the shitty detection didn’t fail me last second). Also, I didn’t have to worry about Campbell being alive for the ending since the plank walk balancing was so bad I insta fell to my death. 10/10 game.

[@TBNRcharlie0511]

Imagine these games in VR with a haptic suit

[@Dopemaster-h8o]

O

[@parkketler7088]

animators really said "IK! That works great for arms too right?"

[@shannonlyon4803]

the flashing lights in this game fr almost always make me have a seizure

[@TheMinarus]

"...You're a reporter....But you're selling stories for your own benefit!" hahah that slayed me lmao So profound 😂😂😂

[@webbed-wyvern]

“it’s so bad!” the game back then was peak to others

[@ThePriorityLuca]

I don’t understand why a game about saw would exist when it’s all about choosing life or death is the whole point of the movie. How could you interpret that into a game?

[@Apocryphox]

The fact why you don't get damage from the glass is... you're wearing shoes.

[@Magik_Mushroom]

8:48 i lost it here.

[@arandomhashbrown3756]

Something tells me that they opened up a 3d modeling program and took screenshots of Michael model and that's why there is no background to his face and looks inside a black void.

[@havendidit]

wait why is it now an unlisted video?

[@MilestheDirtyMindedGoblin2099]

It is? 💀

[@coleozaeta6344]

The true list is between the lines, Detective. You have 3 minutes to put the pieces together after this message activates. Otherwise, you will not receive a free Xbox from Microsoft on Halloween this year.

[@carsonsaner4558]

7:20 gas station toiled made me laugh a little

[@Lolyewmadbruoh]

Lol bro aren't you like 10 years late. Love your channel and saw though so I'm not complaining!

[@Windwalker88]

Having finished the whole video now, i havent laughed this hard in a while. I almost wanna play the game now just for laughs

[@Rclarke115]

The biggest question when it comes to movie to game adaptations shouldn’t be _can you do it_ but always _should you do it?_ The first game was decent enough and that should’ve been it. The only good thing I can say about this game is that it opens up Tapp’s character a tad bit more in files and tapes.

[@Strv-]

It is important to know that in the first part Campbell is wearing shoes. So that’s why the glass doesn’t hurt him. But it’s beyond stupid to not tell the player this. In the first game we are taught about the broken glass mechanic and players from the first game are going to think that the mechanic is still there when they see the broken glass. But the game doesn’t tell you that you have shoes! Something that would justify us not taking damage from glass shards! Any line like “glad I have shoes” is enough context to let anyone know the glass doesn’t hurt you! But that’s probably the least of this games problems.

[@-xiirusthetwat-5481]

Please make another video ripping into a game (preferably this one). I had a blast watching you tear apart this trainwreck 😆

[@tonybabic4081]

Great video. And thank you for your sacrifice.

[@hooting-ton5215]

11:48 One of those photos has the main character t-posing

[@FaMoUsFrosty]

I platinumed Saw 1 and enjoyed that game but Saw 2 was trash

[@RitzMalheur]

This. It was super jank, but it was shovel-ware made with people who at least wanted to make a decent game. The first had character, but the 2nd is a shell of ideas with no execution D:

[@coleozaeta6344]

I think it’s so funny how the best weapon in Saw 1 was the quick punch. The gun was just a scary toy.

[@foodtwenty7390]

Thats a weirdly muscular spine

[@twajag99]

Very entertaining video but I don’t understand why you smoking this game it was a different time lol

[@gor9027]

First game was decent while not fulfilling its potential overall. This sequel took a significant step backwards in nearly every way, and it was amazingly sad and funny to see everyone you need to save end up dying before the story mode ends. It's not hard to see why they stopped at 2 video games for this franchise.

[@mizu7213]

The Two saw games will always be my guilty pleasures. I liked them even with their CLEAR bad sides, maybe nostalgia or something, but i Will Always like them

[@rH0und]

I used to play the demo of this over and over and over on the Xbox 360 (i definitely was not asking my parents to buy it for me) I loved it. I was a strange child

[@StoutShako]

He said there was no PRIZE for "second place". He says nothing about second chances, and having to undergo more Saw traps definitely isn't much of a prize, no matter how you slice it. You seem like an earnest dude, but I feel like you were trying too hard to channel your inner AVN for this review. Could def use some work imo.

[@hitman47890]

Not trying to be mean but most of your complaints are kind of nit picky. The reason for Campbell for not taking damage from the glass is because he's wearing shoes. The first person part after Campbell lives or dies, is basically to walk around the apartment that detective trap killed himself in from the previous game and the suffocating feeling of having cops down your throat as they search through your dads stuff. You go outside for some fresh air and that's why it just changes from that to third person. But in the point of view and looking at stuff, the game is bad at certain points. But if you look when it was made during it's time. It makes sense, the game is passable at best and it was fun to throw your mind away and go through the traps as a fan of the movies. If you go in looking for a good game, your not going to have fun.

[@dovahnok0957]

Ah yes, the "don't expect media to be good" defence. A staple of people defending poorly made cashgrabs out of nostalgia and loyalty

[@matglk2084]

The video thumbnail deadass made me think this was HL2

[@slimittRL]

I would love for them to make a genuinely good saw game

[@drakelovecraft7679]

Would be amazing if the saw series partnered up with Super Massive Games or Telltale games. Just a short title where there are so many choices and ideas

[@antant908]

8:54 And Right here is were I subscribed 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Is called a job

[@kingkhalil0015]

So many flashing light it hurt to watch

[@theIargedude]

technically jigsaw didn't say that there was no second place, just that there was no prize for second place

[@austinwhittaker1242]

I'm an achievement hunter. I played this game for the achievments and I hate myself for it

[@lissanderknight6567]

12:03 Is this... T-pose on photo?!

[@alfonsovasquez5432]

they literally could just make that the pinhead guy just be blind, and thats it, idk maybe just make you open something and if you miss he hears you and charge against you, like even that its better

[@doctor9551]

Didn't Campbell die in the movie anyways? I'd say yes it's probably an AU

[@HakoTaco1]

Campbell isn't even in the movies.

[@flads_]

If you want to play a Saw game forget these exist and play Outlast Trials

[@shmoud99]

11:40 my dad sleeps in a position like this

[@Thickkredd]

Please complain about more games i promise this made my night ❤

[@ThreeFortySeven]

I played the first game. Now I want to play this one.

[@thekillersandvich1150]

the fact that this game is rare and worth a ton of cash is so funny to me

[@luancervantes6124]

god damn this video was funny, thanks a lot i really needed a laugh 😂

[@Samscooking-ib9wb]

What is he just had cateract

[@Hatsune-Miku_Fan]

5:59 even this sounds awkward

[@brianxcx]

i remember seeing my sister play this when i was like 6

[@MICHAELTUMANGDAY]

They should've added zombies here and it'll be fun

[@ssebasgoo]

Making a Saw game is a bad idea, to begin with. It can only be a minigame game. If it's too realistic, it will be weird, if not it will be garbage. In every cases, it will be bad.

[@Stitched_up]

I remember my Mom bought me this game for my birthday. I sat down and played and realized how terrible it was. When I saw my Mom the next day and she asked me if I enjoyed. Since I couldn't bring myself to lie to her I simply went upstairs, brought my Xbox down, and asked her to play the game with me. About 30 minutes in she said "Wow this game sucks sorry dude." I was crying laughing 😂

[@sharkehreal]

First line in the script is the title

[@Adachifan54]

Still waiting for Jerma to Finish it

[@oofiexist1601]

Honestly, I wish someone made a good SAW game. The idea is too good to pass up.

[@sired2delena]

I remember watching this game when i was little omfg

[@thelawsonman]

the problem of this game is how boring it is tbh. the first game was pretty decent.

[@jc8153]

Lol gotta learn about the era of shovel-ware

[@alydn2720]

Have you seen the Mandela Catalogue yet? It's one of my favorite horror series here on KZbin (and in general) and i would love to hear your thoughts!

[@dressionep]

we need more fam

[@DrRZlR]

Is the game strange? At least the movies are good.

[@Thickkredd]

Please finish the review of the rest of the game

[@Faruk-mj9xv]

It's funny how the first game has better graphics and animations than the second one..

[@Relly_dgaf]

i was afraid of this game as a kid

[@heromedley]

wtf even is this jigsaw bro having a job is enough for him to put you in a death trap 💀

[@Dctctx]

That would fit Johns very hypocritical mindset

[@skulltown3131]

Sounding like melee Ganon lol in the first clip lol

[@noeopus159]

i remember my mom played it when I was 10